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The Big Picture of Voice Feminization | A Comprehensive Overview | Lecture & Demonstration

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    0:14 Intro
    0:53 Overview
    5:21 Glottal Behaviors
    9:55 Resonance Behaviors
    12:00 Key Feminization Variables
    16:54 Refinement
    18:50 Normalization
    21:05 Conclusion
    Hi everyone! I'm super excited to share this video with you all! This is the longest video I've ever made. It specifically deals with the top down, big picture, macro perspective of voice feminization.
    Many issues I see people experience during the process of voice alteration is caused by a lack of big picture thinking--missing the forest for the trees. It's my hopes with this video, everyone will be able to have access to a clear and effective big picture model.
    This video is done in a few parts:
    1. Basic overview
    2. Tour of vocal parameters
    3. The 4 most important parameters for voice feminization
    4. Summary + reflection & refinement thoughts
    5. Conclusion
    As always thank you all so much for the incredible support. This video was very fatiguing to produce so I'm going to make some smaller videos after this one. :)
    warmly,
    z
    zheaerosemusic.bandcamp.com/
    / transvoicelessons
    transvoicelessons.com
    / digital.harmonic
    / @zheannaerose

ความคิดเห็น • 387

  • @Luke-lt6mz
    @Luke-lt6mz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +371

    Do you know any resources or techniques for practicing vocal fold thickness?
    Also, thank you so much for making this video!

    • @TransVoiceLessons
      @TransVoiceLessons  4 ปีที่แล้ว +185

      Currently I have a comprehensive audio document available on my Patreon which covers 10 techniques for thinness and thickness. It also contains ear training for the sounds. I also publicly taught several methods in a recent patron workshop which is fairly accessible. Otherwise, I will be making a video on the topic soon enough.
      Here is just a very very brief overview of approaches and methods you can use to find vocal fold thinness. These are all mix-ups and variations I use when teaching it and there are a few other approaches as well like a proprioceptive or mechanical transmission of the idea.
      7 simple exercises to explore thinness:
      1. Start thick neutral singing then adding hot air and slightly go up in pitch, it should trigger a highly audible and feel-able cue. It's also visible on a spectrogram as a tall line.
      2. Ultra strong exhalation with a shred of tone is a self confirmation exercise to first feel the thin configuration and refine it as to allow for ultra smooth onsets and releases. I've used approaches like this with varying success. Usually if a student can't gentle onset in thinness like 6-10 mimics, it's best to try something else.
      3. Big success with starting at a low thick pitch and having the student mildly glissando up while thinning the sound a bit. The folds should automatically thin and the student can try to bring it back down but keep the thinness. It seems to help people who can’t find the coordination well in other ways. I believe Estill documented that 1/2 or 1/3rd up a "trained singers" vocal range, the coordination would flip from thick to thin. This happens in untrained voices too and makes for a very easy approach. This is also interesting because it creates a new connection for pitch training in feminization. It's really great to anchor the higher pitches with thinness to build the foundation behaviorally quicker.
      4. Basic Mimicry of straight tone sounds or speech sounds.
      5. I've observed holding a thick sound and tucking the chin into the sternum to mechanically force a thin configuration. Leaning the head back to hear the thicker configuration. Student can try to maintain the quality of sound while returning the neutral neck neck position.
      6. Estill type sob exercises/yawn/aww cute etc (these seem to be less successful in untrained or inexperienced voices who aren’t comfortable really committing to sob quality).
      7. New one I found today: teach the student to create gentle ingressive pitched phonation, then just have them go from inhaling to exhaling. It's super uncomfortable to create ingressive sounds (for me at least) with thick folds, so this almost like forces the hand
      shout outs to Nick at OnlineVoiceCoach.com, hes a great friend and cued me into the pseudo-independent nature of fold mass from Estills initial work.

    • @loaf8626
      @loaf8626 4 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      ​@@TransVoiceLessons This woman is fucking insane, like holy shit your amazing TransVoiceLessons.

    • @TransVoiceLessons
      @TransVoiceLessons  4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      Rose thank you! c: your comments have been so sweet. Glad to have your support and presence here! 😌

    • @Aeleas
      @Aeleas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@TransVoiceLessons This comment turned into your 8 Exercises to Reduce Vocal Fold Mass video, didn't it?

    • @TransVoiceLessons
      @TransVoiceLessons  4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Aeleas sort of. that short list was a comment of mine on my server which I expanded into a document and released to my patrons then made a video on it to release publicly :3

  • @Larnep
    @Larnep 4 ปีที่แล้ว +488

    The grand unified field theory of transvoice! Give this woman a Nobel prize!

  • @fake-inafakerson8087
    @fake-inafakerson8087 4 ปีที่แล้ว +206

    People used to always tell me I had to raise my pitch, but knowing pitch isn't that important is awesome. I've always admired women with lower pitched voices and knowing it's possible as a trans woman to achieve really helps

  • @bjorksmom3028
    @bjorksmom3028 3 ปีที่แล้ว +183

    ok but how do you draw lines so straight queen

    • @TransVoiceLessons
      @TransVoiceLessons  3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      omg ty im gonna cry.

    • @ilikelefunymemes2828
      @ilikelefunymemes2828 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lmao yes that was my first thought

    • @kait.willows
      @kait.willows 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TransVoiceLessons are you on a trackpad? maybe it corrects itself or something? sic vids too tho!

  • @stevedumas3908
    @stevedumas3908 4 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    I think it would be funny if, at the end of Z's book, she acknowledges having a dark side to her personality, and admits that she actually totally made up a bogus exercise just for fun. I don't know, something like screaming like a crow while jogging outside, pinching your nose. And like, frequently throughout the day. LOL.

    • @TransVoiceLessons
      @TransVoiceLessons  4 ปีที่แล้ว +163

      The screaming crow posture is fundamental to voice alteration! Make sure that while jogging you rapidly pinch your nose and each step should be no more than 4 inches off the ground. Hope this helps with your practice!!

    • @stevedumas3908
      @stevedumas3908 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@TransVoiceLessons You never know, you might pass by someone doing that and feel great you have touched the life of a subscriber. : ) Very impressive model embedded in the video both in content and delivery. I am gonna have to figure out how to do that in FCP because that could be handy. Well done.

    • @LittleCrowYT
      @LittleCrowYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@TransVoiceLessons as a little crow who recently came to terms with their own gender identity, this is good to know 😂 I will be sure to practice screaming at my kin while jogging 😉

  • @Ms.Mamabean
    @Ms.Mamabean 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I’ve only barely started my journey of voice feminization, but in reference to what she is saying at ~17:30, I recorded myself doing a few different female voices, and talked for about a minute per voice, and that helped me hone in on what I wanted my voice to sound like.
    It won’t be for everyone, as you will be recording yourself talk and then listening back to it, but if you can stomach listening to your own voice, I’ve found it really helpful as an initial voice target.

  • @sapphicscale53
    @sapphicscale53 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Starting this process for me is so intimidating...but I will not relent. Thank you for this overview, it is helping me feel like this is do-able.

  • @bobbischmid3363
    @bobbischmid3363 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    You did it again. Thanks to you I can speak in public with no worries. 😋 You have really helped me.

    • @TransVoiceLessons
      @TransVoiceLessons  4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That brings me so much joy to hear.

    • @matildastanford7019
      @matildastanford7019 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And positivity and hope for those of us who struggle with the "negative feedback loop" . Thanks for commenting.

  • @sspsfivefivefive
    @sspsfivefivefive 4 ปีที่แล้ว +183

    Brilliantly presented as always and truly theoretically educational.
    As a 50 something trans woman (I transitioned back on the early 90s) I have found that my voice has really slipped over the last 10 years.
    I would love to see a video of you taking a trans woman through the practical steps of feminisation, to understand how in practice this is possible.
    Also most of the videos on TH-cam have young trans women who maybe have begun their transition at an earlier age with puberty blockers perhaps, so it would be great to see an older transitioner taken step by step through the process.
    Sorry to sound so frustrated. I'm really pulling my hair out with the ineffectiveness of my voice at the moment, which is something I'd rather not do because then I'd have a man's voice and be bald too xx

  • @AstridCeleste96
    @AstridCeleste96 4 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    3:36 "awaremess"
    Yes, I identify as an "aware mess"

  • @erikaramos4653
    @erikaramos4653 4 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    As someone who is about to start hrt, I cannot tell how thankful I am to you, Zhea. Your videos have given me hope, courage and knowledge. And above all, they are giving me my voice :)
    Keep it up, girl

    • @TransVoiceLessons
      @TransVoiceLessons  4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      That's so awesome to read!! I'm very grateful I can help you in such ways!

  • @Swenthorian
    @Swenthorian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Have you ever given a talk at a university?
    This is incredibly fascinating stuff. I'm sure you'd be able to find some phonetics conference that would be interested.
    I'd love to see some attention paid to this in academic literature.

    • @Marlene-ou5ol
      @Marlene-ou5ol 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Precisely, a talk at the university.
      Did you work on the rate of your folds? How did you do it? Did you ever try?
      It is like explaining what happens when you travel at the speed of light; it may be very clear, but it does not mean it will happen anyday.
      The comparaison is not perfect, of course. But you get the point: knowing that that your voice is influenced by the rate of the folds will not bring you in itself very far, however scientific it is.

  • @Sister_of_Indigo_Fontaineaux
    @Sister_of_Indigo_Fontaineaux ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I had a consult with someone for ffs recently and I was asked by two different people there whether I've had vocal therapy. They almost seemed surprised when I told them that I hadn't. Your videos have been the only resource I've used to teach myself over the last two years and I couldn't be more grateful. Thank you so much for all the work you've put into creating these guides and making them available for free. I certainly appreciate them and I'm sure many others do as well.

  • @thomasjust2663
    @thomasjust2663 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Very good video, I'm not even transgender but I will try these techniques out, as an engineer I find it very interesting

  • @abramthiessen8749
    @abramthiessen8749 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Imagine how these dimensions of vocalization could be used in a conlang. I don't think anything more can be wrung out of R2 because that is already one of the main factors for vowels, and pitch is already used by tonal languages.
    It wouldn't make sense for the natural language of a people for whom the dimensions of R1 pitch and vocal thickness already communicate gender, but in speculative fiction anything is possible. For example the Gethenians of Winter from "The Left Hand of Darkness" who are NB and can take either sexual characteristics temporarily, or the men of Athos from "Ethan of Athos", or perhaps the Amazons of Themyscira from the DCEU or Greek mythology.
    Without sexual distinctions within the population, R1 manipulation and vocal thickness could be used to massively expand a languages phonemic inventory.

    • @TransVoiceLessons
      @TransVoiceLessons  4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Hi there! This is a lovely post! This model is actually a reduction for students. There is a tremendous amount of other variables and micro-variables we can factor into the speakers identity and phoneme inventory beyond these. I actually love exploring and building conlangs! I disagree with your statement about R2 though and I'd love to share why! :)
      There are actually so many incredible micro-variables that factor R2 behavior and it's expression during identical vowels between speakers. First, the tongue has way more dimensions than traditional phonetics models consider. Just as one example, the tongue can be micro-constricted in numerous places simultaneously and psuedo-independently of each other. Many speakers hold subtle micro-constrictions across different parts of the tongue which contributes to each speakers unique identity. This means that we could be speaking the exact same perceivable vowel for a language but form it with dozens of different subtle colors. Even the dynamic behavior between these micro-constrictions as they evolve during speech is a quality of R2. Further, the velar pinch is criminally under discussed in phonetics and impacts R2's expression. The sound can be altered by changing the velar pinch's location, shape, strength, length, or persistence. Further, alteration of consonant formation has a ton of dimensions and it ultimately impacts the R2 due to the co-articulatory nature of speech. There is also the specific contour of each approximant behavior and/or diphthong that corresponds to driving a lot of R2 motion. Lastly, R2 is a factor of vowels but vowels are fuzzy abstractions. You can produce the same vowel with several different R2 qualities with the techniques mentioned before or even basic techniques.
      When I talk about R1 and R2 I am actually referring to them as a meta variable which is the expression of a lot of other dimensions that build them. I.e. R1 is an expression of larynx height behaviors, pharyngeal constrictor behaviors, nasopharynx/pharyngeus muscle behavior, tongue dorsum shape, tongue root behavior, aryepoglottic stuff, etc. Each of these have their own levels upon levels.
      Thanks so much for the stimulating and engaging post! Love it, how fun!

  • @Altermerea
    @Altermerea ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you for these overviews, I don't remember ever crying from happiness but it happened during one of your vids. I'm so happy that I discovered these, you're amazing, like the coolest teacher that you can ever have.

  • @phillipdavis1130
    @phillipdavis1130 3 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    Me a guy, blending in with the gals figuring out how to do this backwards

    • @jessiestichter5704
      @jessiestichter5704 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      the gals bring you in with open arms hehe

    • @sahar1213
      @sahar1213 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    • @AtaraxianWist
      @AtaraxianWist 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Is it just me, or does your PFP kind of date this comment?

    • @embergeos
      @embergeos 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@AtaraxianWistI’m pretty sure that he’s saying that he’s transmasc and was reverse engineering a route to vocal masculinization, as opposed to the more traditional use-case of this video, which is feminization

    • @AtaraxianWist
      @AtaraxianWist 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@embergeos Oh. OHHHHH. Yeah that makes a lot more sense LOL

  • @daddysindianho
    @daddysindianho ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow !! Z you sure put the model right and it sets the stage for voice transformation in constructive sure steps...thanks gal ! It brought on me a knowledge filled motivation ...thank you ❤kavita

  • @aliceweirdopants4297
    @aliceweirdopants4297 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just love watching them all for the third time in reverse order. I’m finally understanding all of this and am kinda at the point where I am doing refinement and normalization :D thank u so much for all your work❤

  • @buelljr123
    @buelljr123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    thank you for placing emphasis on the importance of awareness and mentality!!!

  • @thisbitchgotfamous2574
    @thisbitchgotfamous2574 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    OMG I WAS WISHING YESTERDAY FOR A NEW VIDEO. What a goddess ❤ You are one of a kind, truly. The knowledge, experience and value you add to the world is unbelievable, i wouldnt be surprised that in some years your methods will be very well studied ( i kind of doubt as professionals truly think they are... professionals 😅 ). You made me gain hope, and the fact that you're putting this knowledge here, on youtube, is truly nice. I am waiting to get my bac ( highschool exams in france ) and believe me i will take lessons with you, for sure ! Thanks !

  • @junebash
    @junebash 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The point about normalization is super helpful with learning any new behavior; thanks for bringing that up!

  • @voice-flower536
    @voice-flower536 4 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    Wow, you are slaying

  • @mr.croasant2055
    @mr.croasant2055 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I just want to giggle all the way through this playlist cause damn this is making me happy knowing there’s hope :))✨

  • @pielord33321
    @pielord33321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    On the one hand, thank goodness for choir practice teaching me how to control my voice. On the other hand, darn you choir practice for teaching me how to sound dark and resonant in the tenor range, a skill I must now unlearn!

  • @davidjones8043
    @davidjones8043 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm not even transitioning or anything but this is helping me understand how to sing better than voice lessons I've taken on here. Great job!

  • @AngieLikesGirls
    @AngieLikesGirls 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i've found myself about 4 years ago, with time i started to accept myself and to care for my body even though it's not my ideal image, now, i've decided i want to change my voice, i don't want to feel embarrassed by it anymore... after my friend showed me your channel, i still took a while to have my final decision, but now i'm here, i want to do this, even though i'm scared, i want to do this.

  • @taekwondoyoyolego
    @taekwondoyoyolego ปีที่แล้ว +1

    honestly inspiring and thank you so much for all the instructional videos!
    well, honestly im both horribly envious but also inspired

  • @Elise_Shiny
    @Elise_Shiny 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm only five minutes into the video and I've already taken a full page of notes, copied the overview diagram, and suddenly this whole process is making much more sense than ever before. Z: This is a great service you have provided. Nobel Prize yes! I can see your bright light shining from the other side of the woods so I feel I might find my way. Thank you!

  • @fablefairy
    @fablefairy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I first began my trans journey a year ago, I started with your videos. At first, I was overwhelmed. My motivation was low. I watched other TH-cam videos. Many said all I must do is raise the larynx, but that only made my voice ambiguous at best. I thought I'd never sound like a girl, so I gave up for a while. But revisiting your tutorials helped me discover that the larynx is not the only thing controlling our voice.
    I understand how many want a quick solution. But your extensive tutorials are more helpful than anyone else I know. Your knowledge is deep, legit, free and very helpful. And you simplify them as much as possible.
    Thank you so much for giving us all this information!
    You're the best expert I know for voice feminization!
    ♀💖✨

  • @leversandpulleys
    @leversandpulleys 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    That overview is just perfect! 💖 Definitely mapped it all out and helped me understand where some key elements (like spectral tilt) fit in. Thank you so much!!

  • @minimini684
    @minimini684 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you so much for all that you do! This is such a great overview and reminder to be easier on myself when I start returning to my old voice. You help make me feel so hopeful for the future!

  • @sgmxr6
    @sgmxr6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yaaaaaaay I was reviewing old videos yesterday thinking about you!
    I'm glad your okay and happy you posted Thank you!!!❤❤❤

  • @ladyarlyss2932
    @ladyarlyss2932 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you! This video was so helpful. I had watched so many videos on exercises and stuff but I was really confused as to what to do with that knowledge. I feel much more positive about the process now! (Also, it's insane the amount of fine control you have over your vocal qualities).

  • @trendy_gwendy
    @trendy_gwendy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Z, I hope you know that you are literally a lifesaver. The resources you provide are invaluable, and the way you present them (seriously yet totally accessible) is incredible. Thank you.

  • @Theabundantriley
    @Theabundantriley 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is the most useful and best video I have found on TH-cam for ages !!! The amount of work as I have experience myself, as a video editor, trainer, facilator and Positive Processor ... the pre planning of the video to simplify it! Wow ... I’m really impressed and I look forward connecting with you for coaching and training once I can commit too :)

  • @missianthrope3287
    @missianthrope3287 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you ever so much ! You have been a blessing to so many, with your dedication. I've learned so much from this one video. I have been recommending it to everyone I know.

  • @julesgleeson1237
    @julesgleeson1237 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn Z, you did it again! At least three applicable concepts in just twenty minutes. Thank you!

  • @flyingskyward2153
    @flyingskyward2153 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Okay, you got my attention with this video. I'm gave up working on my voice five years ago, I think I may give it another shot. I appreciate your work

  • @L_560
    @L_560 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm catching up with these videos and just finished this one. It's so nice to have an integrative overview of voice, as the apps I use, for example, are focused on pitch, and though I'm quite aware of pitch, it's just something less effective in that sense. The R1 exercises are helping a lot, since I feel that I'm training some unknown muscles in my throat, and I would love to hear soon from the thickness exercises. Thank you a lot, Zhea!

  • @AvaFayIliza
    @AvaFayIliza 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was the video I needed to make sense of *What* I'm doing and *Why* I'm doing it, as it relates to your other videos that work on each specific thing, as well as for my voice training in general. I especially needed the part where you talked about normalization. Having a mind that needs the underlying understanding of what and why something is happening sometimes gets in my way of just being able to practice. So thank you very much for this one!

  • @iansaviet600
    @iansaviet600 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's amazing how you have such fine control of things I had no idea you could modify

  • @alliekittenzx
    @alliekittenzx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Thank you for a new video first off. So I’m just a few doses away from finishing my first month of HRT and voice has always been one of my largest hang ups. I absolutely despise my current voice. And I’ve tried to work on it but I get so lost. I feel as though I can imitate other voices well be they male or female in both spoken and song form. But for the life of me I cannot figure out how to control it in my day to day. The biggest things like muscle control etc are so foreign to me and I can’t seem to ever find anything on how to precisely control any of it. It feels like everything just says “raise this” or something like that. And I can’t figure out the exact technical method of doing that and it hurts my heart when that happens and I just slip back down the slope of progress and forget all about it for a time. I feel like it shouldn’t be this hard, I pick things up so easily but for some reason I can’t grasp this and it just kills me. Anyway, sorry for the rant, I’ll keep trying my best and maybe soon something can finally click. I mean I’m already starting hormones in the dark of a pandemic, why not come out of it with vocal control aswell right? If only if only

    • @marcosc9130
      @marcosc9130 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean, if you can impersonate female voices, you definitely have what it takes, and have a good amount of control, even if subconsciously, just keep going, nothing worthwhile is easy.

  • @stirpiano
    @stirpiano ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely dazzling content as always, I can't imagine where the community would be without your assistance.

  • @EdaliaDayCreative
    @EdaliaDayCreative 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. what a great resource you’ve put together here. Thanks for this. i’ll dive in to your other videos

  • @ismiregalichkochdasjetztso3232
    @ismiregalichkochdasjetztso3232 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is an incredibly helpful mental map of all the aspects, and I can't thank you enough!

  • @JMP4it
    @JMP4it 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is so amazing! I've never heard such an accessable explanation of how to change behavior (and I can see that this model would work for just about any behavior if you modify it). I've been unconsciously trying to feminize my voice for years, but when I started wanting to purposefully go more feminine I was lost when trying to figure out what to listen for and practice. I'm so glad I found your channel!!

  • @ThePrincess540
    @ThePrincess540 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was awesome thank you! I watched it on Reddit but had to comment. This gave me new inspiration to begin/continue voice feminization practice. You’re an excellent speaker too, great communication thank you!

  • @nikki2799
    @nikki2799 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great work Z! Thank you for all of your help!

  • @morgancarmesin1570
    @morgancarmesin1570 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey z! I'm going through all videos on your channel, they're helping me lots to give me more fundamental knowledge on voice training. I've been trying for quite a few months a while I managed to extend my singing voice, I'm still struggling with the everyday talking voice. After your videos I believe I finally understood how to deal with my larynx and pitch and I just discovered about fold thickness so I can't wait for a video going deeper on this subject, since it's quite hard to find more about that.
    Thank you so much for your content!

  • @vikat2730
    @vikat2730 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Zhea, you are the best! I respect so much the great work you done! You explain everything so clearly! And you are so beautiful! Your energy inspires. Thank you so much for lessons, for your music, for your shining

  • @NoBody-eh8bw
    @NoBody-eh8bw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This amazing girl is giving out masterclasses in vocal training that is valuabe for any application. Just wow.

  • @nielsenm115
    @nielsenm115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for taking time to make these videos!

  • @sloweia
    @sloweia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've watched and understood that i do everything in the most wrong ways. But I don't see any possiblity to change it. Hope it will change.

  • @PlayLori
    @PlayLori 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Z for all the videos

  • @Yci
    @Yci 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just started my voice feminizing journey, and your video has already helped me improve so much im so looking forward to this journey 😊😊

  • @melissar.902
    @melissar.902 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you! This was great! :) Your videos are so educational and also always bring a needed smile and a laugh. Thanks again.

  • @foxstoryUSA
    @foxstoryUSA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    going to listen to more sandy duncan interviews when i have the chance. what an amazing voice. i like the idea of having a voice to model my own after. thanks for such amazing content. insurance rejected my attempt to get voice/speech therapy, but i won't give up, thanks for lending me some hope. your voice is so refined and capable. wow. didn't know such results were possible.
    -Vixey

  • @Mystique_Raven
    @Mystique_Raven 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I started this year ! I cannot wait to sound as great as you do!

  • @chrismuscaroler
    @chrismuscaroler 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is awesome! Thank you so much for all the content you create!

  • @desilucero8537
    @desilucero8537 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can't believe you exist. You are such an incredible help I literally got chills and cried at the end of this video. Thank you so much for what you do for us 🥺

  • @PinguinodelRio
    @PinguinodelRio 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I struggle so much with my voice, and your videos are always really helpful and inspiring. Thank you so much for doing this.

  • @d.f.4830
    @d.f.4830 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is so cool! I was a singer in college and had vocal pedagogy for opera singing, and I’ve wanted to figure out what mtf voice work was doing *physiologically.* You laid this out so clearly!

  • @badasunicorn6870
    @badasunicorn6870 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I only recently came out, but I've been working on my voice now for months, mainly using your work as my resource. It is amazing to see such a well done analasis of this, especially for someone studying music like me. I can now conseptualize my voice in terms that I understand, thank you so much for making all of this; I would be lost without it.

    • @TransVoiceLessons
      @TransVoiceLessons  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much! I'm very grateful to be able to help!

  • @LuluNoLimit
    @LuluNoLimit 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My friend learned from you and only took her 2 weeks to make her voice perfect. I cannot wait to try this out and check out your other videos thank you!

  • @DJMightyChip
    @DJMightyChip 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh my goose. Thank you so much. This is so incredibly helpful!!

  • @filakyle3663
    @filakyle3663 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank so much for new video. You are number one for me for voice stuff ❤️

  • @AuntieHauntieGames
    @AuntieHauntieGames ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Will just tend to sound more butch, so if you're looking for a butch-femme vibe..."
    Thank you for that.
    As a trans woman who is also butch identified, hearing you approach that as a choice someone may prefer to make felt real nice.

  • @gino-tx2we
    @gino-tx2we 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly this channel gives me hope ❤️

  • @moniquedupres6107
    @moniquedupres6107 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much for stepping back and taking a high level view of this. This was an important step for me to understand the overall process before diving in with the the details. I’m going to give it a go with more knowledge and a positive mental attitude. As you said at the end I’m sure there’ll be many failures and set backs but as long as there is progress getting to 51% on normalizing any behavior can only be a matter of time. Ty . Monique xx 💋

  • @emilycramer6850
    @emilycramer6850 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've only just started coming out and looking into changing my voice. Your video here is amazing! It really fills me with hope that I Will be able to do this! Thanks!!

  • @voynich7119
    @voynich7119 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Please do a video on spectral tilt. I feel like this is where I could progress the most right now.
    Also, amazing video. Thank you soo much for your work ❤️

  • @astavie2920
    @astavie2920 4 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    How do you train to speak with lighter vocal folds? I can't find any resources on this except "get surgery".

    • @TransVoiceLessons
      @TransVoiceLessons  4 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      This will be my next big video. There is very little information on this out there so I'm excited to change that. :)

    • @Kopfschmerz86
      @Kopfschmerz86 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I go to a speech therapist. The exercises are more like using the right breathing and tons of repetition and exercising. I recommend going to one.

    • @jennifervanko5587
      @jennifervanko5587 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Kopfschmerz86 But doesn't it cost money ?

    • @RoninPrincess
      @RoninPrincess 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jennifervanko5587 Here in Sweden no. The fee is ~38EURO for each visit (till you get a free card to the public healthcare). And you literally go through with the speech therapist what your goals are and how your conditions are. So its very individual and your excercises are individually suited for you. As I wrote I recommend going to one since they the help you thoroughly from your situation specifically.
      Not sure how it is with insurances and stuff in USA tho, sorry (or other countries)

    • @fruitgh0st
      @fruitgh0st 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@RoninPrincess lol you think we have free healthcare

  • @davidjones8043
    @davidjones8043 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Soooo unbelievably gorgeous! Wow... Sincerely. Amazing voice and vocal control as well, quite impressive, miss

  • @bobbischmid7588
    @bobbischmid7588 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Girl, you are such a blessing of info. Thank You. 💓

  • @ceridwenmillington3955
    @ceridwenmillington3955 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for your videos! Informative but also really encouraging, and with the awareness that it is a process which will result in change - it's just a matter of time and being engaged - I think I'll enjoy the steps getting there more

  • @thebomarmonk
    @thebomarmonk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very helpful! I think this could have really helped me avoid a negative outcome with the last speech pathologist I worked with on vocal feminization. For me, as a trans woman, the challenge of achieving a female voice can sometimes feel as though that challenge invalidates my very identity. And my last speech pathologist didn’t understand the challenge of this, and she simply added to the sense that I could not achieve a female voice or put the blame on me as not wanting the voice. In some ways, yes: I need to want to change it enough to practice to get to that 50% probability that I will accidentally use my female voice. But this speech pathologist had no empathy for what this process could feel like for someone like me. So rather than helping me objectify my voice as a physiological tool I could control, she enlarged some thinking in my head that attached voice to more psychological aspects of my assigned gender- she made my struggle an anchor that stopped my progress. If I had the concepts of this video in my arsenal of thoughts, I wouldn’t have let her do that to me.

    • @TransVoiceLessons
      @TransVoiceLessons  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you so much for your post. I'm grateful to be able to help. Do you mind if I share this post (anonymously) with a round table of speech pathologists and voice teachers tomorrow? I'm working to improve the standard of care trans individuals get through speech pathologists. It's honestly so weird. They aren't even trained in this kind of thing and don't actively live it or do it themselves (in 99% of cases). How anybody thought specialists in pathological disorders of voice were fit to teach voice alteration is beyond me. They are largely clueless and circles of SLP's having discourse on transvoice is basically just filled with discussion of identity and inclusivity and completely devoid of technique or voice discussion. Your post is an amazing anecdote I'd appreciate having consent to share forward.

    • @thebomarmonk
      @thebomarmonk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TransVoiceLessons absolutely! I just shared this comment and your video with the speech pathologist who taught the speech pathologist I worked with last, and it’s very cool that this other speech pathologist seems very receptive to hearing about this side of my experience. She admitted a lot of what you just said, that she is still learning a lot about trans experience. And while I don’t assume that I’m typical in anyway, I do try to reflect on my own experience and try to make sense of why I struggle with voice. So if that can be helpful to someone else, that would be great!

    • @thebomarmonk
      @thebomarmonk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TransVoiceLessons also, if you are curious, you can find a Tedtalk I gave before I really worked on voice at all- in fact there is someone in the comment section of that TH-cam video who blames me for causing a lack of acceptance for trans women, because I hadn’t worked on my voice enough before giving the talk.
      My response to this critic was that we should be accepting of all people at different stages of transition, and that we shouldn’t invalidate someone because of their voice.
      But in reality, for my day to day experience, I’d rather my voice didn’t immediately “out me” and support misgendering of me. Socially, I want my voice to cause less friction, and for all my interactions with others, more often than not, to result in more confidence in and more validation of who I know myself to be.
      I am a woman. I’m not non-binary, so I definitely want to get over the plateau I’ve had with my voice.
      Thanks for the work you are sharing on TH-cam! I am benefiting from it!

  • @christina8433
    @christina8433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Zhea! Thank you for helping us find our own voice!

  • @Spoiler647
    @Spoiler647 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much for doing this. It has really been helping put my mind at ease with a lot of the insecurities that I have been having starting out with this.

  • @GunBlade666
    @GunBlade666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love that twin peaks-like ost that plays in your vids. Thank you for the tips and guides

  • @vivianriver6450
    @vivianriver6450 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for another great video! I'm really glad that you're addressing the mental aspect of vocal transitioning, and I'm also glad that you've spoken a bit on some other aspects of feminization, including spectral tilt. That is something that I really need to learn more about.
    One thing I still struggle with is listening to myself and trying to answer question about which aspects of my voice need to sound different to get the voice I want. I feel like I have a definite idea of how I want my voice to change, but I don't know how to articulate what is wrong and I have no way to articulate what I want it to sound like except to compare it to someone else's voice.

  • @rottxnsunflowersarebeautif9339
    @rottxnsunflowersarebeautif9339 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    iz rite nice 1, smashin it with the tunez sis !!!

  • @lilynunya3790
    @lilynunya3790 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the help so much! The thing about mentality really helped me. Finally after being too daunted/overwhelmed to start for a year I will finally begin my journey to voice feminisation

  • @georgiamalkin5633
    @georgiamalkin5633 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are so fantastic, I've been practising by reading out loud and I think it's working for me :)

  • @YouHaveBeenWatchingFilms
    @YouHaveBeenWatchingFilms 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So glad this channel exists, my trans voice journey has just begun :)

  • @fullmetalmiscreant3449
    @fullmetalmiscreant3449 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Incredible work as always!

  • @aeliascent1174
    @aeliascent1174 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really cool video! Clarified a lot for me. Thanks!

  • @Rebecca-nj2wg
    @Rebecca-nj2wg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wonderful video as always, and I wouldn't have guessed when I first clicked it, but a lot I needed to hear right now. The section on positive/negative mentality especially felt so relative for me right now. Been practicing since November, and the past couple months I've been really trying to ramp up my practice and efforts. For a while I was making noticeable progress towards getting my voice where I wanted it, but lately it's been unchanging and nothing I try to do seems to help me any. The funny thing is even though it sounds exactly the same every practice now, some days it sounds almost tolerable to me, and other days I just don't like it at all. I suppose I will just need to keep a clear head on it so I don't slink into some type of negativity loop or anything (if I'm not already in one lol). One tiny step at a time.
    Just so I don't end it on a downer: Again, thank you for your videos and everything that you do :)

  • @lostwanderer1144
    @lostwanderer1144 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you so very much for making these videos. As a trans woman, I was really happy to find somebody teaching this as well as you do. Thanks for sharing! I am so happy with my voice after having practiced things from old videos. Get it girl, you kick ass!

  • @user-bb5iq1gl6o
    @user-bb5iq1gl6o 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for the video, it is highly motivating and enlightening.

  • @KarasawaL30
    @KarasawaL30 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are a wonderful person. Thank you for this video and this channel.

  • @calebjackson3895
    @calebjackson3895 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm just here for acting purposes. I wasn't expecting to gain a better understanding of personal discipline, human anatomy, and the laws of physics!

  • @ChristieDinDin
    @ChristieDinDin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you for the new video and sharing the knowledge + YOU ARE SO BEAUTIFUL !!!!!!! 🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤

  • @andromedastormcrow3288
    @andromedastormcrow3288 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am glad I started with this video. Beginning with an overview of the entire process will be helpful in gaining direction, the voice training process has felt like the most overwelming part of this whole thing, even though it dosent have to be. It seems like the process centers on being awear of the muscles and things that affect your voice, to gain control over the development of your voice, shaping it through pratice and techinic until it reaches a comfortable space. Which can be anything! This training allows one to choose their voice! And I think that's pretty cool.
    I am not trying to sound hoo hoo smart girl. I'm just putting things in my own words to help me process information.

  • @amyashlyn9293
    @amyashlyn9293 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for this. I learned a lot again. I guess I haven't been paying attention since I haven't heard you talk about vocal thickness/thinness before. Your explanation and demonstration provide a key missing piece of the puzzle for me. It explains what people have often told me about my voice being "light" or "young" sounding. Although my pitch is not higher than normal, my vocal folds are naturally thinner than the average guy. Now, with your knowledge, I can begin to consciously work on controlling that. Very cool💗💗💗

    • @TransVoiceLessons
      @TransVoiceLessons  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Amy Ashlyn previously I described this method in indirect ways of arriving at through other glottal behavior (interactions of airflow and closure) but now it has been isolated as a specific and independently manipulate variable. All the R1 examples I do as well have thinness baked in. But now that it’s isolated more clearly everything is much better!!!!
      Check on patreon today! I just released a huge document with lots of exercises on this topic. It has been quite a finishing piece for my model.

  • @20minutegamer43
    @20minutegamer43 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Heyo going through this playlist now, I think my internet is spying on me because I was looking stuff up about voice therapy recently and then this popped into my recommended, but I am glad I found this as a little while ago I found out I was female(pre-dominantly anyway NB-DemiGirl and proud!), you seem to really know your stuff and your voice is super impressive! I hope that this can help me get the desired effect without the assistance of hormone therapy(Alas I am still a kid and only one of my parents is particularly supportive and they are aprehensive about it, which I totally get its a scary unknown world for all of us especially me), though I imagine hormone therapy would help in pharynx region, anyway, I just wanted to say thank you so much for making these videos and I hope that they can help me and many others!

  • @Awdreejahslin
    @Awdreejahslin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, you’re really good! I think the vocal therapist worked with years ago would have benefited from some of this too. I was only with her for 4 months but what I learned dramatically changed me. Practice is literally everything. Although it is important to understand the how and the process itself too. There is so much I can relate to this process from “the vagina monologues” bit there they talked about how men are monotone and flat, but women are softer, more breathy, flowing in pitch! Resonance is really key!
    But still before you get there, or rather after one understands the how and the physiology, the practice and that process takes over. Warming up with various exercises, lip trills for one! Using an E sound and matching pitch with a keyboard or piano gradually going in notes. Repeating the sentences that cause one to go up and down in resonance and pitch all while focusing more on ones posture, how open their mouth is, where their tongue is, how much breath is being used, feeling where the vibration is coming from either the nose or on your teeth.
    It is so much to consider! Takes so much dedication and practice! It takes months if not years to undo the damage of testosterone poisoning.
    I’ve not practiced in years but I also have a rather feminine voice now, still I even I could benefit from continued practice and would be open to an insight evaluation from you as to where I am now. I personally feel I was better when I was practicing but like you were indicating in your video where you over that 51% and things become normal, I’ve hit that and only fell back a bit I think, but still no one really ever misgenders me. It might happen once or twice a year, if that.... I honestly couldn’t say since i can’t recall the last time it happened haha.... still I wonder if it could be improved at all.... singing is where I’m most self conscious but one has to master speaking before one can sing. At least in my opinion... so if you ever had a free moment to give an opinion, that would be awesome!

  • @valeriemorrigan405
    @valeriemorrigan405 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Z, you are absolutely stunning. I barely recognized you in the thumbnail for this video from our lessons in 2018. You've come so far and done so much invaluable work for our community and I'm still proud, will *always* be proud to be able to say you were my teacher. Thanks, teach. I'll always cheer you on.

    • @TransVoiceLessons
      @TransVoiceLessons  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thank you & bless you.

    • @valeriemorrigan405
      @valeriemorrigan405 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TransVoiceLessons Trying to figure out this fold thinning thing. Other than that, I'm well ^.^

    • @valeriemorrigan405
      @valeriemorrigan405 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you give me an idea of what it'll feel like in the throat when I'm doing it right? I know, I'm supposed to rely on my ears, but I'm old, forgive me :P

  • @thomasjust2663
    @thomasjust2663 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great explanation, as an engineer I can relate to the way you have explained this very well, I will watch more of your videos to begin my voice transition in a more real way

  • @personalexplorations4477
    @personalexplorations4477 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was so informative. I like your voice.