How Gibson Guitars Cheated On Me and Andertons TV With Their New Line (read description 3 paragraph)
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- How Gibson Guitars Cheated. The prove of Gibson Quality Control Issues even with their new lineup of the second half of 2019. We'll check Les Paul Standard 50s and 60s and check how Gibson tricked Captain Lee Anderton in his review. Why Gibson QC still sucks. In the end we'll drive to Long & McQuade store to return this guitar. To Attend a free trial class of this Audio Production Course send email to: mixingcourse@andrewzeleno.com
In this video we'll talk about the hype about the new Gibson Guitars, all these positive reviews and statements Gibson made about their improvements.
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1) Don't tell me to send it back or those issues are minor. Incorrectly screwed stop tail piece, black holes in milky colored binding, and places where frets go over binding and other places where binding go over frets.
2) Actually I kept Standard 60s with awfully unmatched top because I can't return it. It sounds 3 times better than my two PRSs and pretty comparable to my LP Custom Shop R7 Refin. So the tone is all what really matters for me. And this 60s one is unusually amazing. Also, I recently tried SG Standard 61 and it sucked big time. One of the worst sounding SG I've ever tried. But again each guitar is different. I have found SG Standard 2016 which was exceptionally amazing sounding. So my point is there are amazing Gibson guitars and awful ones. Sometimes you can't resist if you find the amazing one. But overall behavior of Gibson with their QC is like spit in our faces. You don't pay 3700$ for this kind of product.
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As for this video I kept the 60s one. It turned out to be amazing in tone and sustain.
I m shore that all defects are hand made by expert in lyuthery stressed by underpayment
I feel your pain brother, my issue is with the quality of woods that they use leading to guitars with dead spots in the grain and making no attempt to match the grain, leaving tool marks in the fretboard, dull router bits used on the cavities leading to freyed edges. I've noticed that out of every batch of guitars that a shop gets perhaps 2 or 3 guitars are what you would expect in regards to quality and finish. So if you want a good one ask the shop when they are getting their next shipment and get there on the day to cherry pick. Don't accept faults, send them back!
I say if you're still buying Gibson guitars then you get what you pay for
I say if you're still buying Gibson guitars then you get what you pay for
You should have bought a custom shop.
Gibson is absolutely concentrating on improving innovation and quality control - in their lawsuit division.
LOL!!
I just sent my resume in. I used to handle ambulance chaser cases exclusively ;)
stan broniszewski this is why I play esp/Ibanez
stan broniszewski also probably don’t go after Jackson because Jackson is owned by fender now I believe which just proves your point on them having the resources to fight back
and they're failing at that too
Gibson "Quality Control" is the reason I spent my hard earned money on a Paul Reed Smith instead.
Amen
yes. I want a double cut 594 so fucking bad.
Yes
You can say what you want about PRS and there are many haters out there but quality control with their guitars is a non-issue. All this back and forth with Gibson and the lack of quality and whether they are better or not.....who cares? Their guitars are expensive and you do not get what you pay for. PRS guitars are outstanding, expensive, and worrh every dime because you have an instrument you can keep forever. Now that they have the pickups dialed in on all models why would anybody buy anything else? The Fender Custom Shop does great work also but $4,000 for a strat? No way. Another thing about PRS is they make everything, all the parts, strings, etc or they have stuff made to their exact specs. They are concerned about everything being perfect!
and you won't regret it mate! I did the exact same! Sold my Les Paul Standard and bought a PRS Custom 24! Best thing I have ever done!
Gibson are now a predatory litigation company that formerly made guitars designed to be hung on the walls of stockbrokers homes. Their parent company (KKR) made their mark in this field, and no, I'm not joking. They are seriously committed to predatory litigation, that's the reason KKR PURCHASED Gibson in the first place. Guitar manufacturer is a incidental expense as far as they're concerned. @
I think you have pretty much summed up what this new 'wonder boss' is all about. Lie to sincere musicians...smile at Korporate Amerika.
They should import the Epiphone quality team.
I've NEVER seen this crap on an Epiphone before
Angryibanezguy right?!!! I’ve played a higher end studio along side a epiphone les Paul custom I was blown away. The epiphone has better sounding pickups the tone was better rounded wasn’t as brittle the neck felt solid. The only thing I’ve ever run into was a epiphone with a bad ground which is acceptable they don’t charge crazy prices and a grounding issue can happen eventually even to the best of guitars
....sorry, had one and found the painful fret ends ridiculous even at bargain prices, if you don't finish it sell it as a kit.
...sold it and will never buy epiphone or gibson.
agreed I've a pewter unsung made 2003 explorer better built than a 2019 Gibson Korina Explorer in every way. As stock the Epi was better......THEN Whacked gotoh tuners on it and set of iron gear humbuckers and it shit on the Gibson again lol I own a 1977 Gibson Lp deluxe and its excellent anything now is shite
Sssssh
Angryibanezguy 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Apparently, "this is good enough" is still an acceptable phrase at Gibson.
Finally some honest opinion on the internet. We appreciate it!
Thanks!
Don't ever buy a guitar unless you have it in your hands first.period.👍...
I have bought at least a 100 guitars without "seeing it in person" and rarely if ever have I had a problem. You just need to know what to look for, where to look, and go with the winners- PRS will never let you down (carvin/kiesel same) . Gibson are losers. Have been for a ling while
Not true. i have two PRSs. One is CE24. Both is awfull. Muddy sounding. I replaced pickups. It didn't help too much. SE24 has issues with finish. Even PRS apologized after they have seen the picture.
@@AndrewZeleno1 Very true in my case. I own a host of them, never a problem. Sounds like maybe you have really bad luck with things.
Music Man. Bam.
...i live one hundred miles from the nearest guitar store, and i've bought four Takamine guitars and one fender thrugh the mail with no quality control problems.
...Gibson bought Epiphone only to destroy a better company.
You would think for a £2000 guitar it would be perfect.
Yet you can buy a squire classic vibe for 400 and its perfect... time to sort it Gibson!
Exactly!
I'm not sure I'd pick up squires or mex fenders and call them perfect. They're good for the price, but you're not being critical enough looking at them.
If you want perfect, buy a used collings (or new if your wallet is too heavy).
Justin Cork I know right. I paid £299 for my used butterschotch squier tele and its almost perfect. only pickguard was lifting a bit where the neck is.
Bought a Gibson LP and a Classic vibe strat. No lie, strat was made and set to better
Total
Gibson are still expecting people
To pay big bucks because of the glory they had years ago. It’s overpriced, low quality instruments. Sad to see a great brand going down
Epiphone time
It's funny since they make the same design for decades... and still fuck it up.
For the price of a Gibson you should never have these problems. It should be 100%. We would never accept a car that has these faults and flaws...
For the price of a gibson you can buy 5 Epiphones, pick the best one and return the others !
Yeah, I have a Music Man Majesty Monarchy 6. It was $3400 or so after tax. There was not a flaw. One problem was that the A strings Piezo was quiet. I emailed Ernie Ball, and offered to fix it. I said no and asked how to do it myself. They told me how and it was done. A loose wire on the preamp. The only other problem I had was the first fret around the e to d range was buzzy. But I fixed it real quick. Music Man is the best boutique brand. Better than Fender, PRS, Duesenberg, Friedman and of course Gibson.
I disagree with that assessment; there are numerous examples of expensive exotic cars that have notorious "quirks" that collectors actually enjoy. For example, the Ferarri F40 doesn't have door handles on the interior. To open the door from the inside, you have to pull on a wire.
@@dashripkin Except a guitar is not a car, and having a crooked bride, shit binding job, scratches on finish, etc., aren't quirks they're plain defects. But fwiw, I'd be pissed too if I spend 200k on a ferrari and when it rained water poured down in the car because of shit windows. Of if it's body self-destructed because of bad design around the wheels.
Brian Palmer Nothing that’s in the final product of a car isn’t by design. That’s there for minimalism and to appear like it’s saving weight, it’s not a flaw. Scratches or unfinished surfaces in a car, which is more like this scenario, would not be acceptable for a brand new car.
Maybe the quality control in the 1950's wasn't as good as it was in the 1960's ;)
50s and 60s Gibson's were better than those from the Norlin decade
John J. Sanchez Gibsons*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA😂
Great video, thank you for posting it was very enlightening.
Thank you for this video. My 50s standard arrives at my local store for me to buy this Wednesday. I have been impatiently waiting for it for over a month now. While watching this video bummed me out over the possibility that the guitar will not be perfect, it definitely taught me on what kind of details to look for when I inspect it. So I really appreciate you taking the time to do this. I was in their store about two weeks ago and I played a Les Paul special and I fell in love with it. I had never played P90s before. But I really like the look of the standard in tobacco Sunburst so I pray that it turns out to be perfect.
All guitars even with the same specs are different. If you find one which is perfect for you it's a huge success. I found one. It was that Standard 60s with unmatched top.
Andrew Zeleno I think that one with the mismatched top looks good. Many of the originals are like that and there are people in the Les Paul groups I belong to on Facebook that love them like that.
How did it turn out?
So, how’s the guitar?
jamziz22 How did the guitar turn out man? Let the people know. 🤘🏼
After Gibson's latest move of suing other guitar makers, I want nothing more to do with Gibson.
Ditto!
waitin4winter same. Just bought a 2018 les paul tribute after saving a long time and wanting a gold top all my life. Looking back I wish I would have bought a Strat.
Gibson - Play Desperate!
@@Alongfortheride693 I bet you buy stuff on the black market. Support the criminals.
Nice to find a fellow canadian & honest about gibson's stuff !!
Thanks man!
American companies mass produce things without quality check
I have long suspected that Andertons and sweetwater get the pick of the litter.
So. What GC gets?
Guitar Center doesn’t care what they get, at least the ones around me. I’ve picked up Gibson’s in GCs with finish damage, wavy fretboards, and poor fretting that they were selling full price brand new. Even after pointing these out to them I’ve gone back and seen them still hanging for sake the same way.
Also, Private Reserve guitars is amazing.. They post pictures of every guitar and you receive the one in the picture.. Check them out
Got a 2019 LP classic goldtop from sweetwater.Perfect in every way.
Harry Antonian GC sells factory seconds as A stock, shady AF
I had a 2018 Les Paul Standard and the finish was terrible. I can see why they wanted major changes in the management. It's sad to see they haven't fixed many issues. I'll stick with my ESP Eclipse USA from now on. Personally, Gibson lost me as a customer for good.
Yeah this is how my guitar looks for 150euro Harley Benton ....
Important to remember Andertons is making videos to sell guitars. He owns a guitar store! Its not reviews, its a showcase. They are fully aware of what they are doing but many of the viewers overlook the intent of his content. He wont stock/re-up inventory and make a video of a guitar to than shit on it. He will not be served to be 100 % honest of the flaws/consistency. If he or chapman mentions anything negative they glance over it as much as possible. He wants you to buy the guitars he shows from Andertons TV because he invested money in inventory for those guitars and he is often directly partnered with the major brands like Gibson as a dealer.
It’s true, those guys are fundamentally business men.
It's why I unsubscribed from them.
Box shifters.
dude its authentic. just think about that. thats what should matter...hahaha
:)
Apostolis Paspalakis the shoddy build quality is how you know it’s authentic
LOL
Authentic spray blemishes and authentic bad fretwork 🤣
I believe its sweet water that shows you high quality images of the actual guitars, you can then select what serial number you want out of the available models
maybe a somewhat better option when it comes to ordering guitars online
especially in reference to that sucky looking top on your 60's paul
Yes, but they will charge you tax for online purchases. That has kept me from becoming a customer.
I just bought a Dean Edge 09 for $199. It has better quality.
I've been thinking about getting it. How good is it?
@@rareofficial9381 I'm new to the bass, but played piano (on and off) for the last 45 years. I have the left handed version. The fit and finish are better than you would expect for the price. The Gibson has over spray on the neck! I expect that on a $50 guitar. I think the low price of the Dean is do to its simplicity. That and you're not paying for a name. I never heard of Dean until I started looking for a lefty. I've never read anything bad about them. I'm now a fan.
Mark Agnesi wants to know your location
I just bought an Edge 1 6; should be getting it tomorrow. I'll post a box opening video of it in a few days, maybe some demo/review stuff later.
I agree; Deans are better quality. The Gibson EB4 and EB5 sell for over $1000, but they aren't built any better than the Dean budget models. They don't sound any better, either. Gibson sucks ass.
I've been working on guitars for over 10 years and playing for over 30 years. This is nothing new to Gibson these quality problems will never go away.
If you really have to get a Gibson you should only buy one in person from a brick-and-mortar shop so that you are able to personally scrutinize and go over every detail. Otherwise you're going to be paying a lot of money for potential big disappointment. If their guitars were affordably-priced people likely would not even care about these sort of issues.
The bulk of Gibson's profits go into marketing and paying top-dollar executives, not quality assurance.
From a Gibson fan to another: it's shame how these guys are drowning their customers fate, their brand awareness and their retailers reputation. Gibson, once for all, WAKE UP !
Great video and excelent objective views on these matter.
All the best.
Gibson is over paid crap.
Most of the 2019s Les Pauls also seem to have blemishes and dents under the pickguard.
They now come with a felt pad under the pickguard bolt /nut
Anderton's NEVER give honest reviews.
Unpopular but true opinion
@@nechastivi3187, I don't care if it's unpopular, watch 20 of their guitar review videos, 95% of them are positive reviews. That seems odd to me.
Not sure about Canada, but in the USA, Sweetwater has actual pictures of it's high end guitars by each serial number, and andertons does the same in the UK. Bummer this happened to you.
It's true. The store told me that they don't even know how it looks like. They redirect it from a supplier.
94dodgedude true, but they do too much to the guitars, don't mind making sure the setup is to factory specs, but polishing them, especially by machine, is a hard no for me, they also don't repack everything as it was from the factory, guitar looks/feels slightly used by the time they're done with it
My 2020 Standard 50's is perfect in every department, no finish flaws, no hardware issues and set up to perfection...lovely top on it as well, I bought mine from a very reputable company in UK who personally inspect every one they hand pick themselves and then do another pro set up before it;s dispatched to you......couldn't be happier and would definitely buy from these guys again (you also get to see all their stock of the type of guitar you want from high quality photo's showing the guitar from every angle and the weight as well as serial numbers)
Andertons Music is a pure marketing channel The Truth is what sells thats it
Man, you are playing AUTHENTIC!!! this is my two cents comment. Sorry about those problems with the guitar. Those finish issues are not expected from a Gibson. I actually had seen your channer before because you're an engineer, and Im not surprised your courses are going that well. Congratulations for that.
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Don't tell me to send it back or those issues are minor. I kept Standard 60s with awfully unmatched top. But I can't return it. It sounds 3 times better than my two PRSs and pretty comparable to my LP Custom Shop R7 Refin. So the tone is all what really matters for me. And this 60s one is unusually amazing. Also, I recently tried SG Standard 61 and it sucked big time. One of the worst sounding SG I've ever tried. But again each guitar is different. I have found SG Standard 2016 which was exceptionally amazing sounding. So my point is there are amazing Gibson guitars and awful ones. Sometimes you can't resist if you find the amazing one. But overall behavior of Gibson with their QC is like spit in our faces. You don't pay 3700$ for a guitar with different binding in different places which is cut to holes in many places; and it has angled tailpiece which no other guitar has.
Are the PRS's SE's or US ?
CE24 and SE24
@@AndrewZeleno1 SE is the Poor Mans Import quality PRS. Which is why I opted for a Harley Benton CST-24T as a Mod Guitar and for under 500.00 it will shred the SE's.... Also will hold its own with the Mid Level U S PRS. but I have been working on Guitars for over 34 years...
This is a recording....
Hey man, why don't you return it?
Im deciding between an eastman SB59/v and a gibson les paul 60's, im so torn in the decision, did you play an eastman before?
To clarify: Each guitar is different. Even the same model. I just found the amazing one. It's that Standard 60s with awfully unmatched top. But I can't return it. It sounds 3 times better than my two PRSs and pretty comparable to my LP Custom Shop R7 Refin. I recently tried SG Standard 61 and it sucked big time. One of the worst sounding SG I've ever tried. But again each guitar is different. I have found SG 2016 which was exceptionally amazing sounding.
send it back to gibson. they will send you another.
You would never see a MIJ Ibanez leave the factory like that plus my own mij rg550 cost less than £950 Quality control is everything.
Thank you for this video. Very disappointing news re Gibson. Don’t think I’ll ever bother with that brand. Think I’ll go for the ESP Eclipse instead. 👍😎🎸
The eclipse is also a relly Nice guitar!
Best bet is to get a CS model at a cheap price and send it to Historic Makeovers. If you want the real deal, that’s the only way I’m going. Then again, I tend to stick a few guitars out of my arsenal, so I prefer the highest quality over quantity.
The way to go is to check guitars in person with extensive test for every nuance of a guitar. I recently have 20 les pauls in the shop for a test and I found only two good les pauls.
Yeah same things happened to my Les Paul. The inlays also have popped out of the neck on my 2017 Traditional. Very disappointed ☹️
Me too...2016 Traditional
Dunno man. I agree with you, but that's why I never buy stuff online. I played a 50s and a 60s model at my local guitar shop and they flawlessly built and played and sounded great. The flamed tops weren't as defined as in the pictures but that's the thing about it. They were standing in front of me and I knew what I wad getting. Gibson isn't fully back, but I really like these new models.
These finishing flaws wouldn't be acceptable on a guitar at half the price.
Why do you have 4 sound monitors on your desk. Does it make a difference?
Not sure if you are trolling or it's a serious question. Of course they are different.
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True!
😄 Hmm... These two people look very similar??
Gibson most likely will not check your purchases because the store is the buyer , your buyer from store company and they have to deal with it
Sweetwater. You choose your guitar with professional pictures. I’ve bought many from them and they were 100% perfect. (No I don’t work or have any affiliation with Sweetwater). My wife hates Sweetwater...
There are several Gibson retailers in the USA that sell Gibsons. Chicago Music, Sweetwater & Wildwood Guitars. You look at the exact pictures of the guitar you purchase.
I'm really disappointed about that, a lot of big companies are increasing their prices without increasing the quality
It's true bro.
Gibson dropped the price of the Standard by almost a thousand bucks.
Sergey Suchelenkov , you’re absolutely right. Many companies are only selling their product by simply selling their name and nothing else. Gibson is notorious for that! And they’ve been doing it for years.
Quality comes from the top management. They set quality standards (or not), and they provide the workers the tools, training and time to do the job correctly. Then they have to have the integrity to not ship poor quality items. It's now obvious that Gibson's new management is only about saving money, not spending money on quality. No more Gibsons for me.
So much for better lighting and less hands during manufacture. Perhaps Gibson should treat their workers better, then you might see better quality.
I will never buy another Gibson product again. They go bankrupt and then start sueing PRS, Ibanez and others for copying body designs. But don't bother to mess with big distributors that are bringing in Chinese made ripoffs that even have the Gibson logo.. despicable predatory litigation by guitar making failures
For the price this is horrible i have a 250$ Jackson and has none of these issues.
The worst guitar I ever bought in my life, (I'm 73), was a gibson 339 from Andertons. This guitar was a mess. I have Korean guitars that would beat it hands down for build quality. I didn't send it back, I did the work myself to fix it. I will never buy another gibson again. This guitar never went anywhere near quality control, and andertons never took this guitar out of the box to check it out. Because no one would have sent it out in the condition it was in.
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Thanks man!
I had a chance to look at and hold several Gibsons this past weekend at Sweetwaters gear fest. After closely examining them I can honestly say they all impressed me compared to what I have seen in the past.Some of them I would venture to say were getting close to PRS in fit and finish. I bought a new 2013 LP traditional that is a very very nice guitar...It isn't perfect but nothing to be ashamed of. I have also seen first hand the crap they have put out. Some have been so bad I could not believe they had the balls to try and sell them. Sounds like they are still struggling with quality issues.
To clarify: Each guitar is different. Even the same model. I just found the amazing one. It's that Standard 60s with awfully unmatched top. But I can't return it. It sounds 3 times better than my two PRSs and pretty comparable to my LP Custom Shop R7 Refin. I recently tried SG Standard 61 and it sucked big time. One of the worst sounding SG I've ever tried. But again each guitar is different. I have found SG Standard 2016 which was exceptionally amazing sounding. So my point is there are amazing Gibson guitars and awful ones. Sometimes you can't resist if you find the amazing one. But overall behavior of Gibson with their QC is like spit in our faces.
That’s the way a 50s Les Paul was made back then !!!🤪😂😂😂
:)
Have you tried a Dean?
I found exactly the same issues with that guitar at all the guitar stores I've been in. And I was ready to buy one :-|
Not really sure why an “unmatching top” is a problem. My 2020 unburst has faint tiger on the bottom and wood grain in the top. It looks great and makes it unique. Each top is different from the next. That’s what makes them great imo.
I like my 60s LP actually. It's one of the best sounding guitars I ever had.
Been telling people to wait for some time now it will take months for improvements to be seen if at all !
I don't understand how you can put a bookmatched top on a guitar that isn't actually matched...? Do they mix the tops up on the factory floor and just roll with it? If those two halves are from the same bookmatched piece I will give my guitars away
I've got 3 from mid 90s and 2 from 2015, also recently parted with a couple from 2018 and all of them are flawless.. either I'm just lucky or people are just nit picking
I kept Standard 60s with awfully unmatched top. But I can't return it. It sounds 3 times better than my two PRSs and pretty comparable to my LP Custom Shop R7 Refin. I recently tried SG Standard 61 and it sucked big time. One of the worst sounding SG I've ever tried. But again each guitar is different. I have found SG Standard 2016 which was exceptionally amazing sounding. So my point is there are amazing Gibson guitars and awful ones. Sometimes you can't resist if you find the amazing one. But overall behavior of Gibson with their QC is like spit in our faces.
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Man if you're not happy with Gibson's than switch to different brands like PRS,fender etc
I can't. I just found the amazing one. It's that Standard 60s with awfully unmatched top. But I can't return it. It sounds 3 times better than my two PRSs and pretty comparable to my LP Custom Shop R7 Refin. I recently tried SG Standard 61 and it sucked big time. One of the worst sounding SG I've ever tried. But again each guitar is different. I have found SG Standard 2016 which was exceptionally amazing sounding. So my point is there are amazing Gibson guitars and awful ones. Sometimes you can't resist if you find the amazing one. But overall behavior of Gibson with their QC is like spit in our faces.
I bought one of the 2019 50’s Gold Top P90... and it is amazing. Quality is excellent, plays great, sounds killer. I love it will never sell it.
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@@AndrewZeleno1 Best of luck to you
When I go to the music store, I usually walk right past any Gibsons..... Can't really afford one. Well last week I had to get some fretwork done. I figured what the hell. May as well check them out. Uhhhhh...... Just really wasn't all that impressed. Not with what they cost. I didn't see all the imperfections like you show on this video, just nothing that really popped out. Then I saw one that really caught my eye. The finish was immaculate, the set up was great. Just touching the strings on the neck, I loved the action. .... then I looked up at the headstock and saw it was a Dillion. And it was about 100 - 200? bucks cheaper than the lowest price Gibson..... I don't know a thing about those guitars, but they looked just as good as the four digit price tag gibsons and flat out blew away the no frills models.
I think Gibson suffers from the same ills as other American manufacturers. Stagnant wages and high demands from workers for the low pay.... No real incentive for the employee to go above and beyond anymore. So guess what happens to quality overall? If things don't improve, then it won't just be gibsons with crappy quality, Just about anything else made here will go the same way if it's not already. We just don't get paid enough to do any better. Too bad when Trump gave all those corporations a tax break, they blew it on buy back options and executive bonuses instead of investing in their workforce. Yeah. Gibson's just the tip of that nasty iceberg.
To clarify: Each guitar is different. Even the same model. I just found the amazing one. It's that Standard 60s with awfully unmatched top. But I can't return it. It sounds 3 times better than my two PRSs and pretty comparable to my LP Custom Shop R7 Refin. I recently tried SG Standard 61 and it sucked big time. One of the worst sounding SG I've ever tried. But again each guitar is different. I have found SG Standard 2016 which was exceptionally amazing sounding. So my point is there are amazing Gibson guitars and awful ones. Sometimes you can't resist if you find the amazing one. But overall behavior of Gibson with their QC is like spit in our faces.
Yup I never get a Gibson shipped to me. I’ve bought several and when I shop for one I plan on driving hundreds of miles and visit several different stores and plan on looking at a dozen or more to find a good one. Funny thing is I can go to one store and play no more then two or three squire classic vibes and find that they are usually all cosmetically perfect and play nice . Gibson just don’t get it.
i wonder how obvious it is when they glue the tops together how they will look on the back end of the build (yours does seem like an extreme example). I know when you compare the les pauls on sweetwater they all look massively different some good, some not so great. That being said I got an LP Classic earlier this year and I have been blown away by how much I love that thing.
yea that top sucks ,the two sides should not have been used on the same guitar;
It's like the CEO of Gibson could stand up in the middle of a NAMM show and shout to everyone - 'Gibson has major quality control issues' and people would still pay multiple thousands of dollars to buy them.
I'll never get it, Gibson QC has been garbage for what ? a couple of decades, and players have still bought millions of them - then been surprised at the flaws in their guitars...
Gibson have such an iconic brand and massive fan base that QC doesn't have to be that great for them to still sell sub par guitars by the truckload.
Since at least early 90's!
And now their sueing dean guitars, which make absolutely gorgeous USA guitars...SHAME ON YOU GIBSON!!!! Sorry you got a dud bro😔
To clarify: Each guitar is different. Even the same model. I just found the amazing one. It's that Standard 60s with awfully unmatched top. But I can't return it. It sounds 3 times better than my two PRSs and pretty comparable to my LP Custom Shop R7 Refin. I recently tried SG Standard 61 and it sucked big time. One of the worst sounding SG I've ever tried. But again each guitar is different. I have found SG Standard 2016 which was exceptionally amazing sounding. So my point is there are amazing Gibson guitars and awful ones. Sometimes you can't resist if you find the amazing one. But overall behavior of Gibson with their QC is like spit in our faces.
@@AndrewZeleno1 I think what people are saying is that for the prices they want, Gibsons should be perfect.
I would have lost my mind on that top. Please tell me you returned this.
If Gibson is still sending out substandard guitars then Andertons will be 100% aware of it
I agree, his dealer is more to blame than Gibson.. My dealer inspects every guitar before they list it to sale.. He needs a new dealer
The moral of this story : Never buy a guitar online.
Personally, I like to try a guitar before buying it because there are so many things that can be defective (the neck, frets, electronics and, in this case, the finish).
Denis Lachance couldn’t agree more. There are Gibsons, epis, prs, fenders eastmans one offs that are pieces of shit and those of each brand that are stellar, you’ve got to play them.
I have a late 70s L.P made by a different company. A different law suit from Gibson. I must have gotten lucky, cause mine is a guitar someone took very good care of. I wouldn't get a Gibson, cause, Koreans make dam good guitars.
Gibson never won a lawsuit. In the 70s all the builders did was change the head stocks to avoid spending legal fees on frivolous lawsuits from Gibson.
Dude that two tone top looks ridiculous.
That's why I try to stay away from buying guitars online, if possible I always buy my instruments after having tried them
100% true
Unless it’s a prs . Always good
Many people don’t have such luxury. I’m not in worst situation I need to drive 3 hours to guitar store
Few days ago, I just unboxed a 2020 SG 61 Standard. The neck pickup was touching the low E string, and the G was rattling against the fretboard. Also, I weighed it, because it felt a little heavy in my hands...the scale read 7.8 lbs. One of the reasons I wanted this guitar is they are supposed to be very light. So I'm just going to return it.
I have epiphone les paul standard. 0 complains.
Thank you for your sincerity.
as long as there are buyers who are able to buy expensive Gibson with craps, Gibson will not change anything!
Hey Gibson. Wake up finally!!!
Deep Deep Sleep.
Well, I was going to buy a new Gibson this year but now I’m having second thoughts .
Yeah, I'd be very upset too. Good for you for helping animals!
Thanks! Always thought it's my responsibility.
I recently bought a 61 SG reissue & it is as close to flawless as a guitar can get & was set up & plays perfect right out of the case. It does however have the pcb controls which was not advertised & as far as I know a 61 sg did not have a circuit board in the control cavity so I dont know what that has to do with a reissue.
Everyone saying they changed all came out with the same videos, same day, can you say affiliate. Nothing wrong with that except when you bs just to ensure you have a #1 video in the search and don't honestly review it. I love my last years faded model though, it was the cheapest
I actually upload a video on Gibson on the first day like you said. But what I did differently I said "Let's check them out to find out if they improved QC". I'm in minority :)
I have two Custom Shop Gibsons, SG Standard and now Standard 60s. They are all amazing guitars. But I returned like 10 other Gibsons which were awful.
@@AndrewZeleno1 yeah it's good to be honest and not guide people into a pitfall. It's not like Gibson's are completely bad. I love mine but come to think of it I had to call and get a scratch and dent discount because my pick guard was scratched. Outside that though I love the thing. It was cheaper than my American fender strat and sounds and feels great, and is my new favorite. I love your videos man, great work
Thanks!
I returned mine and bought an Eastman SB57.
A Gibson is only good enough..
Gibson - Play Pathetic!
Yeah I watched a video with a positive review of Les Paul Standard 50’s P90 it has dings on the upper neck leading to the Nut, the opposite is perfectly smooth. The fret board in spots have so much dust build up it’s almost gunk. Trying to decide whether to exchange it or not. I’ll go through the process at least 3 times until I go for a les Paul special because the price is great. Sound is incredible but I’m not sure if the ding will cause some kind of problem down the line. Thanks for the video it was like therapy
Gibson need to completely gut their operation and start again. Regardless of what they now say, the bad old practices of the past are ingrained in the workforce. They need completely new ethics.
That's true
Sorry man, I go with Epiphones and upgrade them with a Plek setup, Graph Tech ratio locking tuners, Schiller roller bridge and compensated nut. Under $1,000 and plays like a dream I love them,.... I don’t care about the snob appeal of the Gibson name, because I’m not trying to impress anyone with that nonsense.
Each guitar is different. Epi doesn't mean it's always good or bad. With Gibsons it's the same
Smart idea on that plek treatment man. Super smart
I expected this vid to be a total unwarranted hate fest and I was dead wrong. These are legitimate issues a guitar in this price point should never have Great vid man. I love Gibson too but come on Gibson !!!!
Thanks!
The QC on the 50's was terrible, but the finish on the 60's is like they just glued two different guitars together either on purpose or accidentally. That is so glaring and wrong. That guitar should've been cut up at the factory or sold as B-stock for a few hundred bucks.
If I understood correctly: you found several estetic scratches on the guitar's finish.
When you play any guitar scratches are bound to occur. To me the important issues are playability, does it stay in tune, the sound and inspiration I perceive with any instrument. I do not see scratches as a big issue in quality control, unless I want a guitar to hang it up on a wall looking without any playing wounds at all. Each to its own.
Great video Andrew. And your donation to animal welfare shows your empathy is real. You are a good man. I have subscribed. Greetings from UK. Rich
Thanks Rich. I'm not only donating. I have fed them when I was living in Ukraine. There are horrible things going on with animals. I even have a plan to go back to shoot a documentary about that and I will have some fight over there with some people because police don't do anything over there.
Andrew Zeleno That’s excellent Andrew , you are a brave man. Apart from being in a gigging band , I help out my local wildlife sanctuary. I’ve seen the progress animals have made from care and attention and wonderful rehabilitation from cruelty and neglect. I look forward to seeing your documentary when you go back to Ukraine. I know it will be upsetting , but people need to stop putting their faces in the sand and realise that as humans we have one simple task, look after everything living first....Everything else is a life bonus.
I bought a Gibson les Paul r9 and paid 4000GBP for it, I love the guitar but even at that level there were minor flaws I didn't expect to see. A few issues like with the binding going up the neck you can feel slightly how it's not a perfect fit into the routed channel on the neck where it sits it's only slight but there all the same almost like the binding should be a fraction thicker. The dye bleeds into the binding Also taking away that neat line of the bindings edge. Like I say minor things. But in all honesty it doesnt bother me because this thing plays like a dream its perfectly set up and it feels and sounds amazing. I can live with a few minors.
Custom Shop is different story. But To clarify: Each guitar is different. Even the same model. I just found the amazing one. It's that Standard 60s with awfully unmatched top. But I can't return it. It sounds 3 times better than my two PRSs and pretty comparable to my LP Custom Shop R7 Refin. I recently tried SG Standard 61 and it sucked big time. One of the worst sounding SG I've ever tried. But again each guitar is different. I have found SG Standard 2016 which was exceptionally amazing sounding.
My Gibson Les Paul artist series has a finger print UNDER the clear coat that I can see and feel.
:)
Hahaha damn, that hurts a lot!
I understand your concern with QC but I judge quality by sound not looks. If you want perfection then Custom $hop is your answer.
To clarify: Each guitar is different. Even the same model. I just found the amazing one. It's that Standard 60s with awfully unmatched top. But I can't return it. It sounds 3 times better than my two PRSs and pretty comparable to my LP Custom Shop R7 Refin. I recently tried SG Standard 61 and it sucked big time. One of the worst sounding SG I've ever tried. But again each guitar is different. I have found SG Standard 2016 which was exceptionally amazing sounding.
Get an Epiphone, change the electronics and save yourself a few thousand dollars! My used Epi KP Standard Pro was $379 and is better shape. Seymour Duncan Seth Lover pickups!
For the money you spent on those two pieces of garbage I'd send them back!
My 2016 epi sg kills a Gibson
Sad to see this. I've always loved Gibsons. I have a 2008 LP Studio which is perfect.
Every Gibson should be perfect. They need to get on this.
My favorite Les Paul was mid 90s studio (sold to pay rent) and I have a Japanese made Epiphone Elitist would love to find another Gibson studio I've always been attracted the stripped down look.
It's sad to say but the Chinese are making better quality knockoffs than Gibson and at a fraction of the price.
You apparently have not played the Chinese copies, because they are garbage. You read that online and like to pretend you are knowledgeable.
I have two fairly new Gibsons, an ES 339 & 330 and they both are amazing. Play and sound great.
Watch out might get a lawsuit
I'm Russian. They can't be that brave.
@@AndrewZeleno1 Hahaha! Well said! Great come-back! :)