The problem with the Zero squad is that everyone forgets that Ywach was there using his almighy powers and buffed and ressurected some of the elite squad that was already dispatched. I know Zero squad was really a huge disappointment but they where just there to show how truly terrifying Ywach is.
@Admiral Kipper What poor writing? Morons with this power scale mentality failed to understand that not everything is about power in Bleach. Them being in the Zero Squad doesn't necessarily means that they're all powerful than others, it's more about their contribution that shape the Soul Society's civilization.
@@zeroskaterz92 it’s been a while since I read bleach but I’m pretty sure it was stated that the zero squad’s power rivals or exceeds that of the entire soul society, in addition to their great contributions.
@@greatthinkers3537 Yes it was stated: "Their total power surpasses the power of all the 13 Divisions together" But Ichibei and Nimaya can do that on their own. It was a misconception that people thought Zero Squad are stronger simply because of that statement. In that context, it was about their total spirit energy surpassed them because Soul King empowered them, not that they're stronger. They were promoted to Squad Zero because of their contribution to the Soul Society, not because they're powerful. Take Hikifune for example, she's a former 12th squad captain before Urahara and the reason she was promoted into Zero Squad because she invented the artificial soul. Yamamoto was deemed the strongest shinigami for the past 1,000 years up till his death. Wouldn't Yamamoto be in Zero Squad instead of leading the Gotei 13? Hikifune served under him and yet she's the one that got promoted to Zero Squad.
If only Aizen was left to ferment a little longer Imagine how much stronger Aizen would've been if he had been sealed for like 15 years A lot of people tend to take their aizens out before they're properly fermented
It seems like the line "The Zero Division are stronger than the entire Gotei 13" is some sort of codeword for "Ichibei's Bankai is bullshit! Who can stop this man?!"
@@mcpics4448 3 dead, 1 going down next episode. Being off screened would‘ve been more respectfull than offing themselves for one useless cutscene bankai that changes nothing.
@@zawarudo8991 depends really is Yhwach going to save the guard or is Uryu or Jugram OP haxs schrift going to save them because so far she weave in every one of those Quincy fated defeats
I like to think the hogyoku is an artificial recreation of the soul king’s power, which is why it’s able to break reality like it does. Combining that with Aizen creating and absorbing the oken, it’s likely he’d be even stronger than this hypothetical next form.
I think it is, as it used parts of the soul king to power itself. Rangiku had the soul kings fingernail within her, but aizen stole it at fed it to the hogyoku
Aizen roflstomps them all. Assuming he's at his transcended level then none of the Zero Division (other than Ichibei) are strong enough to fight him without being melted by his Reiatsu, and even if Ichibei uses his Zanpakuto to weaken Aizen by removing his name then the Hogyoku would just evolve Aizen into a being that transcends needing a name.
Ichibei’s ink probably won’t even work on Aizen just like how Sui fon’s “death in two stings” didn’t do anything either. Aizen’s reiatsu is just that strong.
@@meme-derivedterpenes3097 no he isn’t but that’s the point he could get stronger if he wanted to cause of hogyoko but the he wasn’t interested in strength anymore in the manga and Aizens Level with the hogyoko is over logic so the ichibei Technik which is based on logic wouldn’t work on Aizen
@@markodjiporovic3905 That's pure speculation by Ichigo he clearly gets stronger just being sealed. Ichibe's power worked on Yhwach there's no reason they shouldn't work on Aizen. Ichibe had enough spiritual pressure to effect Yhwach a transcendent being stronger than Aizen I'm not sure who wins the fight b/c the hogyoku is an asspull machine but Ichibe can easily hold his own
@@meme-derivedterpenes3097 Keep in mind that Aizen's Kyoka Suigetsu was able to affect Yhwach and even directly subvert his Almighty powers, and that was when he was *STILL* being bound and restricted by seals all over his body. So while it's hard to argue that Aizen is stronger than a Soul King absorbed Yhwach, he's absolutely relative to him. Nobody could do a thing to Aizen; that's why he was just locked away in Muken.
He would crush them. Ichibe is the only threat, the four others would be dispatched with negligible difficulty. Ichibe on the other hand would be as hard of a battle as the one he had with Ywhach, but the result would be the same. In fact, there's a grat chance that just like with Yamamoto he would have a contingency to nulify Ichimonji completly. Also, the condition in which he would enter the Palace would change a lot about how the fight goes. What I described above happens in a timeline in which he never fought Dangai Ichigo and killed him before he could train with his father. If we use instead an Aizen that fought against Dangai Ichigo and defeats him, It's likely that he would simply look at them and they would cease to exist, since the Hogyoku would evolve him into a being who transcends Mugetsu.
Ryujin Jakka was a known entity that Aizen knew ahead of time he had to address to have any chance at his plan working. Never is there any evidence presented of anyone in SS (besides Yamamoto) knowing the powers of Ichimonji. Any hypothetical involving Ichimonji vs. the Hogyoku is quite simply a matter of speculation and we just don't know. Many of these comments rush to assume Aizen claps while forgetting or ignoring the fact that the RG come in fully aware about Kyokasuigetsu not just because of battle data but also because of Oetsu knowing the whereabouts and abilities of every Zanpakuto in existence. On top of this, from what we know of the relative battle strengths of Yama and Oetsu from lore as discussed in CFYOW, it isn't possible to simply dismiss Oetsu on the basis of a (terribly written) "poor" showing in which he oneshot Lille and Gerard (read that again) before bullshit resurrection plot armor. Certainly he gets overpowered sooner or later, but Sayafushi (or more likely whatever Oetsu's true Zanpakuto is) is a factor in the same vein as Ryujin Jakka. Sure, killing Aizen is effectively impossible, but it cannot be glossed over that Oetsu and Ichibei sealed away Ikomikidomoe when it looked like it was going to overrun SS. For the Royal Guard to "beat" Aizen they don't need to kill him. Just seal him. And Aizen as BS as he is doesn't have Almighty.
Oetsu does not know the ability nor name of every zanpakuto He makes the medium in which a soul reapers essence if poored into to make their zanpakutos And otherwise what contingency can they use when they have or can accidentally look at aizen at any time Its not like sunglasses cancel out hypnosis 😭
@@Amireza73 no not really go read again Making something does not make u immune to it oetsu can die to anything and if the castle itself is braught down all 5 will die
Ichibei: *splashes Aizen with ink* Aizen: "You think removing my name will strip me of any power, Ichibei?" Ichibei: "Well, maybe not, but I can assign you any name I want with Shirafude Ichimonji!" *writes* Aizen: "How comical. Any petty name you can come up with will fall before the Hogyoku. I'll entertain you, though. What will you call me now? 'Black Ant'? 'Fly'? 'Plankton'?" *Checks name* "Momo Hinamori" Aizen: "Aw fu--" *stabs himself*
@@quentinkaalekahi2216 no because even If ichibei gets ink on him the Hokyoku will continue to transform him and make him surpass ichibei so ichimonji wont even work. Remember one of the Hokyokus powers is evolution
The thing about Aizen vs Yamamoto is that Yamamoto's Bankai is both destructive enough to damage Aizen up until his super regeneration kicks in, and completely indiscriminate. Aizen's normal trump card does precisely nothing in that fight thanks to it's unmatched zone control, Aizen's only option would be to run.
Underrated comment. Complete hypnosis does nothing when the entire area becomes as hot as the sun, and Yamamoto's skin is surrounded by so much heat that anything that touches him turns to ash instantly. Plus, does hypnosis even work on the walking dead? If not, that could give Yama enough of an tip-off of Aizen's real location to accurately strike out.
yamamoto with a clear mind can beat anyone in the whole bleach story.. im pretty sure he could have killed the soul king himself after wiping out the zero division alone.. but yamamoto with ichigo, unohana and zaraki kenpachi can take over the whole universe.. those 4 at full power vs all the quincy & zero division and they win.. the story was wrote so they absolutely never fight together
ichibei stated himself his giant master debater hand can push everything 1000 ri away, regardless of size, mass or conceptual difference, that means he can just push aizen's plans 1000 ri to the side and leave him alone with his pretty underwhelming plot armor which ichibei can just squeeze to death with his S+ beard fist, no extreme black needed
@@ladlad3179 he beats the elite squad no diff Only sk absorbed yhwach would be a serious threat and probably even he could not defeat aizen (I think it will be an endless fight with no winner)
Aizen with the Hogyoku is basically a buffed version of Gerard. Even if Ichibei manages to do what he did to Yhwach, and name him an ant, the Hogyoku could still come in clutch for him and revive him even stronger than he was before.
I wondered this for a long time, but i just found the answer as: Well, it's Aizen. He was a Teacher and just anyway, he's Aizen, so of course he knew about the 0.Squad, duh. So yeah, he must have been confident to win WITH the hogyoku. The better question is: What is the attack-potency of Kido??
@@oghaze9318 Yeah but even so, the Hogyoku is basically derived from the Soul King's own power something which eclipses Ichibei's own hax. Plus with how its fused to Aizen, it could probably hide itself deep inside Aizen's body anyway. Or Aizen could just Kyoka Suigetsu Ichibei preventing him from doing this in the first place.
I’m of the opinion that Ichibeis ink is limited by his level of Reiorku(spelled that wrong) As in I don’t think it would have worked against Ywach with the almighty given Ywach at this point was too strong and could neg it outright. I think transcendent Aizen at this point would also have to much spiritual pressure for the ink to effect him. Ichibei seemed to be comparable to Bankai Yama which was sweating at the idea of Aizen being free to help Ywach, not to mention Aizen was designated as a war power for his reiatsu as a special war power and was this designation made based on his pre Hogyoku self? Like I don’t think Ywach knew about transcendent chair Aizens new abilities, when Ywach mentioned that his senses were messed with being next to Aizen he was shocked but obviously knew about Kyoka Suigetsu. It leads me to wonder if he was shocked that Aizen didn’t need his sword release.
"So during the War Arc, Madara wiped out 10,000 members of the shinobi alliance as a warmup, but let's not forget that Aizen one-shotted Isshin, Yoruichi and Urahara in a form several dozens of versions before his current one".
Yeah moreso when a fraction of Naruto's power is more than the combined power of the whole ninja alliance, when he gave a chakra cloak to the whole alliance Kakashi states that's more chakra than his full reserve and he's among the strongest in said army. So... Yeah, most of the Narutoverse are fodder
I agree pretty much with all of this bit tbf to the zero division they weren't "having trouble with the Quincy before the got their full power" Nimaiya literally one shotted every single one of them pre power up
I feel like kubo either knew exactly what he was doing creating someone who would be strong in whatever situation or he actually accidentally wrote himself into a corner. Aizen just feels so strong compared to the rest of the cast most of the time
Kubo overpowers his villains way too much. Aizen and Ywach were both way too overpowered, and the pay off for their defeat didn't feel great. Dangai Ichigo and final getsuga came out of nowhere, so did the silver arrow. Even Lillie and Gerard were too overpowered he needed deus ex machina to get rid of them.
@@rrypara ahhh at least we knew dangai ichigo came from months of training and a huge sacrifice from ichigo ( tho that didnt matter) the defeat of Yhwach tho.. a lot of bs
Aways the same stupid "he wrote himself into a corner" comment, you should be thankful that he made great villains, also said the person with Whis as a profile pic 😂
@@rrypara All of that made sense and has explanation, yall are too lazy to understand and love to complain about it, also Yhwach defeat wasn't just the arrow, was the fake vision that Jugram give to him, those things that you and other lazy people don't know about.
I believe Aizen still pales in comparison to Yamamoto. Yamamoto’s spiritual pressure was so strong that during the TYBW arc it was pointed out he wasn’t even producing flames. The density of his spiritual pressure was so strong it appeared as a hellfire. The unleashing of his Bankai threatened to destroy the Soul Society by just existing. Aizen, or any character for that matter, has yet to show that level of spiritual pressure. Even Ywatch could only kill him by making Yamamoto exhaust himself against a fake, and then stealing his Bankai, all while already being in a weakened state due to missing an arm.
The headcanon in me says the zero squad wasn't depicted as great due to rushing or behind the scenes issues so this isn't fair😂 but it is Aizen we are dealing with.. I do hope Kubo can rework the zero division in the anime to look better..
I think it's unfair to say that Squad Zero would lose so easily considering that most of them didn't even use their Shikai when Yhwach invaded, much less their Bankai (other than Ichibe). So their full potential isn't being taken into account.
Agreed but that speaks more to the weakness of squad zero. As the video talks about, squad zero had intel on ywhach but yet still were too cocky to use their full abilities. I would definitely think an unknown being would be taken even less seriously.
@williansouza8724 agreed, my opinion has changed since the animes corrections. While I think Aizen could win if he was killed enough but given what we were shown he def could've been bound by someone like senj without killing.
As long as Aizen has the Hogyoku everything boils down to: "If you want Aizen to be stronger in this fight, it will just happen". He has an infinite supply of canonically supported "asspulls". He basically got an nigh-infinitely powerful djinn with infinite wishes.
@@Zero-ef4sc Ain't Ichibe doesn't need to use blade to cut Aizen, right? He just need to write Azien's name and that ability from a far, then those ability will perish.
@@Zero-ef4sc since ichibei knows Kyouka Suigetsu and all its powers he should be able to counter them also aizen has to release it in front of him in order to work
@@tkgamingman2858 tbh hed probably write Aizens name then the Hogyoku would just evolve Aizen into a being that doesnt need a name, which is a problem.
The part where you tried to give the Zero Division the benefit of the doubt with Shikamaru and Batman is still hilarous. Enjoying this throwback, watched the whole way through. Great stuff to listen to as well.
Don't forget Captains can release shikai without saying anything, Aizen could just release Kyoka Suigetsu the moment the Zero Division eyes meet him. And if the Zero Division close their eyes, how can they react to his speed and power? Though it's a mystery why Aizen never used Kyoka Suigetsu against Ichigo, maybe there's more limitation that we didn't know of or something.
I'd like to think it's because of instinct The biggest thing holding Ichigo back is himself, his own worries, fears, unwillingness to fight. Zangetsu literally believes that to be the main thing Ichigo needs to work on. Take vasto lorde Ichigo for example he was mindless in that form and ran purely on instinct not reason. I assume this would be how Ichigo fights against KS not using his sense and just instinct. It's probably push Ichigo into a massively stronger state.
@@stormynight4895 What you’re thinking of was the conversation with Unohana in the Garganta where she said, “you’re the only one to have not seen his blade, therefore you’re not under its effects.”
Pretty sure Aizens shikai was released the entire time. And in order for that to work ichigo would have to witness him releasing it again, which would mean sealing his zanpakuto and freeing everyone in the gotei 13 of his illusion
The BBS 6th anni Aizen it is what would have happened if no one had interfered and stopped its development. It can be said that it must be measured with this consideration in order for the analysis to be more accurate
When you can one-shot insta-kill immortal pieces of the Soul King like Gerard and Pernida so utterly that you negate their abilities, all before they can even react, you don't need anything special.
Dude Nimaiya bodied all 4 of the royal guard but then got plot armor Auswalened my guy what are you saying. Nimaiya plus Ichibei sealed the 2nd strongest hollow ever into a zanpaktou. Nimaiya is heavily slept on.
@@asi3136 Him getting outta that chair will do numbers online, but would be something else if he's included in more in the final fight instead of acting like a shield or barrier for Ichigo
I wondered this for a long time, but i just found the answer as: Well, it's Aizen. He was a Teacher and just anyway, he's Aizen, so of course he knew about the 0.Squad, duh. So yeah, he must have been confident to win WITH the hogyoku. The better question is: What is the attack-potency of Kido??
You said they would have no battle analysis which is false. Oetsu forged every Zanpakuto and Ichibei knows the name of every Zanpakuto. What we saw with Renji shows that they would definitely have an understanding of Aizen’s Zanpakuto.
@Clyde great video. Just wanted to point something out at 8:01 , the reason Yhwach couldn’t break out of Kyoka Suigetsu was NOT because of aizens innate power. It is because(stated in manga) The Almighty cannot affect parts of the Soul King, and Aizen fed the Hogyoku(and ultimately himself) some of the Soul Kings nails. This made his ability immune to Yhwach’s Schrift. Otherwise, great vid!!!
This Squad and the Kido-Corpse are the greatest Dissapointment and obviously prove that the manga when animated needs massive fixing, not slight fixing. I cant believe some people think only the last 1-2 chapters need fixing... i mean... what??
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This whole scenario comes down to two things, has Ichibee seen Aizens shikai release and can Aizen's reiatsu flex hard enough to cancel Ichibee's hacks
Aizen fused with ks, his power massively sealed 70% put juha under ks in a chair. While in that very same chair Aizen reishi flexed the entire zero division palace. They stand no chance. Even ichibei.
@@tyronjasonhuff That's cuz KS is an absolute ability. It has nothing to do with a "70% power seal." I dunno even know where you got that from. Plus that wasn't even Juha in his strongest form with all his power either.
Something I'd debate: If Aizen is unaware of Ichimoji's power and uses Black Coffin [Which is basically his go-to], it's not unreasonable to say that Ichimonji could easily turn that power back upon Aizen since, after all;, Black Coffin is Black; and Ichimonji controls all Black. While that wouldn't kill Aizen, having *his own power* reflected back upon him would almost certainly significantly damage and temporarily weaken him as he recovers, which could easily lead to Ichibei inking Aizen and then it's probably over from there. [Plus the hypothetical Ichebei's Bankai v the Hogyoku situation] Or Ichibei uses his sealing technique he was going to use on Yuha. [The temple thing] I don't think Aizen 100% wins 0 difficulty; although him losing is somewhat dependent on how he chooses to fight. After all; this hypothetical Ichimonji v Black Coffin situation would only happen if Aizen uses Black Coffin. [Although Aizen has no way to know Ichimoji's abilities beforehand presumably.]
So, something I've always been a bit confused about with Aizen's power and I'm hoping someone could please clarify. Kanzen Saimin is said to be able to control the 5 primary external senses of sight, hearing, smell, touch, and taste. He uses this to completely fool several characters in combat to the point that they seemingly have no idea what is real and what isn't. But why doesn't anyone ever seem to try to sense Aizen? In theory he would need to be exerting at least a small amount of reiatsu to maintain the effects of Kanzen Saimin right? So characters should be able to use that to percieve Aizen in a way Kyoka Suigetsu can't control. Or is the Reiatsu sensing ability routed in the 5 main senses and thusly would be subject to Kyoka? The Bleach wiki does say that it should be possible to sense past the illusions but I don't remember seeing any character even attempt this. There are situations where this can make sense, like Hitsugaya being blinded by rage, but it just seems strange that not a single Shinigami, Visored, or Espada could, for example, see Aizen standing in front of them but feel his reiatsu moving behind them. (I'm aware his power eventually becomes too complex for them to sense but I'm mostly referencing before his transcendence.)
I think this was brought up when aizen fought yamamoto. Yamamoto was only to able sense aizen's reiatsu when aizen stabbed him and not before that. Yamamoto then grabbed aizens arm and was still able to sense him.This implies that kyoka suigetsu does cancel out your sensory abilities until you contact aizen or his sword.
It seems others have forgotten that skilled people are capable of concealing their reiatsu as well. Aizen is a top-tier Captain; who's to say he isn't concealing his reiatsu while using Shikai? With a skill like that, his enemies will have no choice but to rely on their five senses (which they obviously cant trust).
Tbh I think that the zero division were more like museum pieces (Kirio creating soul candy and so on) so I hope that if the zero division will be revitalized with actually powerful people (as in people not yet existent in the story).
i guess you could make an argument that aizens hipnossis can be broken when you touch him because ywach was able to see it was aizen not ichigo when he impaled him through the chest
For aizen vs ichibe what I imagine is when sui fon used her shikai and stabbed aizen twice but it just didn’t work and faded away cause aizen reiatsu was so powerful. So maybe he could cancel out ichibe this way too
Aizen being aware of yamamoto is something to be signified even yhwach was afraid of yamamoto pre absorbed soul king. The only way yhwach beated yamamoto was bcz yhwach stole his bankai. Additionally the ALMIGHTY alone cannot beat yamamoto what the almighty does is peak into the future and swap different outcomes. Basically he can swap the future where he lost to the future where he wins. But you can't really do that if you're not strong enough to beat someone in the present. Yhwach didn't beat yamamoto on their first encounter back when yamamoto was in his prime because back then even with the almighty there's basically no way he can beat yamamoto with his abilities at that time. So if yhwach don't have the abilities that can surpass yamamoto then the futures of winning will basically be zero. Kinda like how hogyoku works in some sense it can turn your desires into reality but only if you're powerful enough to achieve them in the eyes of the hogyoku. It's kinda like a cheat code if you wanna build a house learn how to build one then the hogyoku will magically manifest a house based on the skills you have.
Nah I think past yhwach almighty was just to see the future like jugrams almighty so he got rekt by yamamoto and the only reason he got the altering part was because he absorbed the soul king.
one point on kyoka suigetsu, in final arc isnt it said that "who would have thought not showing you my released Kyoka would benefit this way?" That gives me the impression that in some way it either loses its zanpakuto powers or aizen would still have to release it, as ichigo did fight him in his "merged" plus state. That was my understanding anyway
he would neg except ichibei imo. Clyde could u PLEASE do a video that scales Tybw Ichigo to Universal and Ftl+ or Mftl? I see so many different scales for Ichigoat but I would love a vid from the goat clyde himself. 🙏 awesome vid keep it up 🙏
This Squad and the Kido-Corpse are the greatest Dissapointment and obviously prove that the manga when animated needs massive fixing, not slight fixing. I cant believe some people think only the last 1-2 chapters need fixing... i mean... what??
so people get a sense of the difference in power Yhwach pre Almighty < Ichibei Yhwach Post True power/Almighty > One shot Ichibei Yhwach Post SK >>>>>> Ichibei Yhwach Post SK + Post SR absorbtion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ichibei. and Aizen could still affect Yhwach in his strongest state with his Powers/Reaitsu. Butterfly Aizen one shots every single Zero Squad member Monster Aizen makes them Kneel EOS aizen blinks them.
5:30- Though it could be an infamous case of Kubo's "I have an ability, but it's so situational and I don't like it for egotistical/superficial/aesthetic/power is impractical reasons that I didn't use my full power when it could've been useful anytime in hindsight" with the other four members.
why that scenario wont work. ichibe names all the zanpoktu powers and knows all of the powers of your blade. they would never let themselves fall under the effects of ks. ichibe most likely would know exactly how to counter fighting ks. werent they also watching what was happening and didnt come down to help because they didnt see aizen as a threat? yhwachs abilities weren't even a threat to ichibe except almighty. before that it was a one sided fight in ichibes favor. i honestly doubt a pre tybw aizen could legitimately stop ichibei.
I agree with you that by feats and showings Aizen wins against the Zero Division, but what do you think about Azashiro's remark about Aizen having only 40% chance of beating that division?
I'd argue that Aizen DID win. He's becoming exponentially more powerful as he sits, strapped to a chair. Completely immortal, unkillable. All he has to do is wait.
Great analysis! The Zero Division would definitely put up a fight but I think the key is if Ichibe can affect the Hōgyoku or not. If not then Aizen wins. One thing I’ll say is that Bleach Brave Soul’s 6th anniversary showed what the potential form of Aizen could be after Mugetsu. It’s definitely based off of him fusing with his sword + the Hōgyoku evolving his Butterfly form
I'mpretty sure I said this in the original release too, but people need to remember the fact the Fullbringer Ichigo (after healing in the hot-springs) _accidentally_ broke Kirinji's hand. And that version of Ichigo is on the same level as one-armed Yama _at best_. So yeah, unless Ichibei pulls out some super-hax, they get fodderized. And same thing if current day Ichigo rolls up there. They would just be vaporized by the raw power.
Maybe this video would go differently now after kubo fixed what he did to squad 0 in manga did them dirty. Now its all fixed so this would be really different.
This is exactly why I don't think Madara can beat Aizen. While he's doing jutsus, Aizen is ripping limbs out of sockets while his aura alone can rip apart an enemy's flesh. I'd argue that the Gotei thirteen was stronger than they were after the zero division visit.
Aizen claps them all no diff. Ichibei isn't a Transcendent being so his ink doesn't do shit once Aizen becomes one. Mausoleum is the only attack Ichibei has that can even stand a chance, but Aizen can most likely negate it via Reiatsu OR simply not let Ichibei incant that shit. Either way, Zero Division stand 0 fucking chance.
So ywach isn't a transcendent being is what your saying? Despite the fact shikari *kenpachi* is(neat little detail there if you go back to the start of the gremmy fight that's the implication, his squad members couldn't feel him anymore, but others could which leads into the bellow point) Also that doesn't mean what you seem to think it does, just because your transcendent to one person doesn't mean you are to another. it's not an explicit state of being it a representation of how far above individual beings you are.
Yes, it's stated that the five members of the Zero Division alone are equal to the entire Gotei 13. However 4 of them lost to several Sternritters that the Gotei beat. Ichibei must be the overwhelming majority of the Zero Division's strength just like Yamamoto was the majority of the Gotei 13's strength.
@@MaskOfCinder I think it's widely understood that this was insanely bad writing for the sake of plot convenience. How is Byakuya (who received a buff from Kirinji + RG training) putting up a better show w/ help against a stronger form of Gerard than the people responsible for his buff? Yes I get that fight was 3v1 but it just makes no sense.
@@MaskOfCinder ehhh i don’t know, i don’t see ichibe being the sole reason they are equal. Oetsu seems to easily be way above captain level with his one shot sword. We really didn’t get to see enough to say but i think it’s likely they are all above captain level
rip to the original video. In any case, as per usual Clyde is spot on here, though I would argue one petty point. No way is anyone in the zero division just gonna melt out of existence as a result of just Aizen's spiritual pressure. in his pre butterfly form the only people we saw vanish were literally just normal humans. thats how large the gap has to be. Aizen wipes the floor in this battle, but the dif between transcendent Aizen and the zero division is not the same as the dif between pre butterfly Aizen and some rando human. its massive, but its not that large.
I love discussions like this but what I’m going to say is that we never saw the full potential of the zero squad. We never saw any of their bankais except Ichibe. I’m taking the zero squad in this fight. From what we know aizen might win but I’m going to die in belief that the zero squad is OP af it’s just that kubo was rushed to finish the manga and did them dirty
now that the anime is back it will be so sad and terrible if all the errors of manga are followed in anime without any corrections. I hope they fix mistakes.
@@Tyler_Frenzy learn how to scale because he doesn't Dangai Ichigo and pre TYBW Hougyoku Aizen didn't make all of SS tremble let alone 3 different worlds *on 3 different dimensions* edit btw neither did the posterior versions of them but i suspect that could be because TYBW Aizen's Reiatsu wich is widely believed to have increased is tied to his body by Mayuri's fabrications and in Ichigo's case because his True Bankai never got to be properly released being destroyed instantly the first time and the second time while he had recovered the ability thanks to Orihime and Tsukishima his Reiatsu was heavily depleted by Yhwach and they shouldn't have enough power to fully recover Ichigo's full Reiatsu reserves in such a small gap of time either that or they're getting recontextualized in the future of the TYBW anime now but the previous iterations of them aren't getting the same treatment and will remain bellow the true power of The Zero Squad members
@@valentinodelapena7699 that's entirely true i always defended that Zero Squad wasn't as entirely useless as nost people claimed with things like "Nimaiya is 15% of the groups power Ichibei is 70% and the rest is the remaining 15%" people acted like the Cage wasn't helping nerf that Quincy's like Kirinji didn't saved Nimaiya from Askin (Like Kirinji and Hikifune weren't faster than Nimaiya when they jumped in front of the bullet to try and save him from Lille and other things but i must admit that not even i expected this
Love the video! However I would put to you that Aizen wasn't 'so powerful' to have survived the Mugetsu, rather that since he had actually fused with the Hogyoku, and that the regeneration was just the passive survivability of that entity that cannot be destroyed. Furthermore it's kind of stated by Urahara that this final form isn't a power step up, rather it's the Hogyoku's sentient realisation that Aizen isn't worth it anymore and allows his powers to fall to the point where previously established Kidou can now work.
@@Crey_Rob kisukes hypothesis was countered by ichigo himself in the next moment the hogyoku never rejected Aizen but he just wanted to feel normal his inner desire due to solitude The hogyoku just granted this wish
Aizen wins. Even if he lost, he still won because it was all part of his plan.
Fr tho
I agree too, with his zanpacto he can actually win
His sword ability is too broken but aizen do have a small weakness
Lol lol
@@IlakuSoKingg yea but they probably aren’t under the influence of it
The problem with the Zero squad is that everyone forgets that Ywach was there using his almighy powers and buffed and ressurected some of the elite squad that was already dispatched. I know Zero squad was really a huge disappointment but they where just there to show how truly terrifying Ywach is.
@Admiral Kipper What poor writing? Morons with this power scale mentality failed to understand that not everything is about power in Bleach. Them being in the Zero Squad doesn't necessarily means that they're all powerful than others, it's more about their contribution that shape the Soul Society's civilization.
@@zeroskaterz92 it’s been a while since I read bleach but I’m pretty sure it was stated that the zero squad’s power rivals or exceeds that of the entire soul society, in addition to their great contributions.
@Admiral Kipper no they are immortal, the zero squad was revived after yawachs defeat but could have happened during the battle too.
@@greatthinkers3537 Yes it was stated:
"Their total power surpasses the power of all the 13 Divisions together"
But Ichibei and Nimaya can do that on their own. It was a misconception that people thought Zero Squad are stronger simply because of that statement.
In that context, it was about their total spirit energy surpassed them because Soul King empowered them, not that they're stronger.
They were promoted to Squad Zero because of their contribution to the Soul Society, not because they're powerful.
Take Hikifune for example, she's a former 12th squad captain before Urahara and the reason she was promoted into Zero Squad because she invented the artificial soul.
Yamamoto was deemed the strongest shinigami for the past 1,000 years up till his death. Wouldn't Yamamoto be in Zero Squad instead of leading the Gotei 13? Hikifune served under him and yet she's the one that got promoted to Zero Squad.
an you make aizen collaborate with yowach
please make him cooperate like obito and madara would be so cool
If only Aizen was left to ferment a little longer
Imagine how much stronger Aizen would've been if he had been sealed for like 15 years
A lot of people tend to take their aizens out before they're properly fermented
Gold😂😂😂
Only true fans remember the original release
Do you know why he removed it and made this version? (I haven’t watched this one yet).
@@faizansamad9091 Copyright issues, they mention it in the beginning of this video.
@@faizansamad9091 watch the video it’s literally in the first minute why it got took down 🗿
@@bsvdvj4232 LOL
@@bsvdvj4232 mfw when I use clyde videos to fall asleep to +3 am
It seems like the line "The Zero Division are stronger than the entire Gotei 13" is some sort of codeword for "Ichibei's Bankai is bullshit! Who can stop this man?!"
ichibei carries 0 squad
To be fair ohetsu is at the same level as kyoraku
Tho ichibei can solo the gotei 13 currently
The beat the fraud allegations after the latest episode
@@mcpics4448 3 dead, 1 going down next episode.
Being off screened would‘ve been more respectfull than offing themselves for one useless cutscene bankai that changes nothing.
@@zawarudo8991 depends really is Yhwach going to save the guard or is Uryu or Jugram OP haxs schrift going to save them because so far she weave in every one of those Quincy fated defeats
I like to think the hogyoku is an artificial recreation of the soul king’s power, which is why it’s able to break reality like it does. Combining that with Aizen creating and absorbing the oken, it’s likely he’d be even stronger than this hypothetical next form.
I think it is, as it used parts of the soul king to power itself. Rangiku had the soul kings fingernail within her, but aizen stole it at fed it to the hogyoku
@@ladlad3179 ah, I didn’t actually know that. XD I’m a bit out of the loop when it comes to later parts of Bleach
an you make aizen collaborate with yowach
please make him cooperate like obito and madara would be so cool
@WaifuMaster9002 Yhh light novels
cant u just destroy the hogyoku?
Aizen roflstomps them all. Assuming he's at his transcended level then none of the Zero Division (other than Ichibei) are strong enough to fight him without being melted by his Reiatsu, and even if Ichibei uses his Zanpakuto to weaken Aizen by removing his name then the Hogyoku would just evolve Aizen into a being that transcends needing a name.
Ichibei’s ink probably won’t even work on Aizen just like how Sui fon’s “death in two stings” didn’t do anything either. Aizen’s reiatsu is just that strong.
@@tinhyeu5952 no. Unless you're unironically claiming that Aizen is stronger than Yhwach with the Soul King absorbed
@@meme-derivedterpenes3097 no he isn’t but that’s the point he could get stronger if he wanted to cause of hogyoko but the he wasn’t interested in strength anymore in the manga and Aizens Level with the hogyoko is over logic so the ichibei Technik which is based on logic wouldn’t work on Aizen
@@markodjiporovic3905 That's pure speculation by Ichigo he clearly gets stronger just being sealed. Ichibe's power worked on Yhwach there's no reason they shouldn't work on Aizen. Ichibe had enough spiritual pressure to effect Yhwach a transcendent being stronger than Aizen I'm not sure who wins the fight b/c the hogyoku is an asspull machine but Ichibe can easily hold his own
@@meme-derivedterpenes3097 Keep in mind that Aizen's Kyoka Suigetsu was able to affect Yhwach and even directly subvert his Almighty powers, and that was when he was *STILL* being bound and restricted by seals all over his body. So while it's hard to argue that Aizen is stronger than a Soul King absorbed Yhwach, he's absolutely relative to him. Nobody could do a thing to Aizen; that's why he was just locked away in Muken.
He would crush them. Ichibe is the only threat, the four others would be dispatched with negligible difficulty. Ichibe on the other hand would be as hard of a battle as the one he had with Ywhach, but the result would be the same. In fact, there's a grat chance that just like with Yamamoto he would have a contingency to nulify Ichimonji completly.
Also, the condition in which he would enter the Palace would change a lot about how the fight goes. What I described above happens in a timeline in which he never fought Dangai Ichigo and killed him before he could train with his father. If we use instead an Aizen that fought against Dangai Ichigo and defeats him, It's likely that he would simply look at them and they would cease to exist, since the Hogyoku would evolve him into a being who transcends Mugetsu.
Honestly it all depends on if ichibes power would work on the Hogyoku which I don't think they would
Gin killed Aizen, the creator of the zanpakuto would cut through Hyogokou without a problem....
@@oghaze9318 Gin killed base Aizen, and there is a lot of proof that Aizen let Gin kill him.
@@ChromedDomes what proof of there is that? aizen legitimately looked surprised like how could this have happened.
Can you make aizen collaborate with yowach
please make him cooperate like obito and madara would be so cool
Ryujin Jakka was a known entity that Aizen knew ahead of time he had to address to have any chance at his plan working. Never is there any evidence presented of anyone in SS (besides Yamamoto) knowing the powers of Ichimonji. Any hypothetical involving Ichimonji vs. the Hogyoku is quite simply a matter of speculation and we just don't know.
Many of these comments rush to assume Aizen claps while forgetting or ignoring the fact that the RG come in fully aware about Kyokasuigetsu not just because of battle data but also because of Oetsu knowing the whereabouts and abilities of every Zanpakuto in existence. On top of this, from what we know of the relative battle strengths of Yama and Oetsu from lore as discussed in CFYOW, it isn't possible to simply dismiss Oetsu on the basis of a (terribly written) "poor" showing in which he oneshot Lille and Gerard (read that again) before bullshit resurrection plot armor. Certainly he gets overpowered sooner or later, but Sayafushi (or more likely whatever Oetsu's true Zanpakuto is) is a factor in the same vein as Ryujin Jakka. Sure, killing Aizen is effectively impossible, but it cannot be glossed over that Oetsu and Ichibei sealed away Ikomikidomoe when it looked like it was going to overrun SS. For the Royal Guard to "beat" Aizen they don't need to kill him. Just seal him. And Aizen as BS as he is doesn't have Almighty.
Oetsu does not know the ability nor name of every zanpakuto
He makes the medium in which a soul reapers essence if poored into to make their zanpakutos
And otherwise what contingency can they use when they have or can accidentally look at aizen at any time
Its not like sunglasses cancel out hypnosis 😭
@@shariqikram5832 bro oetsu always know where is a zanpakto the kyoka suigetsu ability is a joke to oetsu
@@Amireza73 no not really go read again
Making something does not make u immune to it oetsu can die to anything and if the castle itself is braught down all 5 will die
Ichibei: *splashes Aizen with ink*
Aizen: "You think removing my name will strip me of any power, Ichibei?"
Ichibei: "Well, maybe not, but I can assign you any name I want with Shirafude Ichimonji!" *writes*
Aizen: "How comical. Any petty name you can come up with will fall before the Hogyoku. I'll entertain you, though. What will you call me now? 'Black Ant'? 'Fly'? 'Plankton'?"
*Checks name*
"Momo Hinamori"
Aizen: "Aw fu--" *stabs himself*
The battle between soul reapers all about spiritual pressure. Aizen can easily overcome Ichibei's sily spiritual pressure.
Underated comment xD.
an you make aizen collaborate with yowach
please make him cooperate like obito and madara would be so cool
@@lorddukfoxyzeppeli7921 The problem is Aizen dont like being controled by something higher than him.
Savage😂😂😂
Aizen claps laughably easy . I think only Ichibei is a threat and that’s pretty contentious as well
Yep
No he doesnt☠☠
@@quentinkaalekahi2216 nope
@@jaygawkin3732 nah he does💀
@@quentinkaalekahi2216 no because even If ichibei gets ink on him the Hokyoku will continue to transform him and make him surpass ichibei so ichimonji wont even work. Remember one of the Hokyokus powers is evolution
The thing about Aizen vs Yamamoto is that Yamamoto's Bankai is both destructive enough to damage Aizen up until his super regeneration kicks in, and completely indiscriminate. Aizen's normal trump card does precisely nothing in that fight thanks to it's unmatched zone control, Aizen's only option would be to run.
Underrated comment. Complete hypnosis does nothing when the entire area becomes as hot as the sun, and Yamamoto's skin is surrounded by so much heat that anything that touches him turns to ash instantly. Plus, does hypnosis even work on the walking dead? If not, that could give Yama enough of an tip-off of Aizen's real location to accurately strike out.
yamamoto with a clear mind can beat anyone in the whole bleach story.. im pretty sure he could have killed the soul king himself after wiping out the zero division alone.. but yamamoto with ichigo, unohana and zaraki kenpachi can take over the whole universe.. those 4 at full power vs all the quincy & zero division and they win.. the story was wrote so they absolutely never fight together
ichibei stated himself his giant master debater hand can push everything 1000 ri away, regardless of size, mass or conceptual difference, that means he can just push aizen's plans 1000 ri to the side and leave him alone with his pretty underwhelming plot armor which ichibei can just squeeze to death with his S+ beard fist, no extreme black needed
This was truly amazing to read
@@kingwill1623 what a killjoy
an you make aizen collaborate with yowach
please make him cooperate like obito and madara would be so cool
@@kingwill1623
Why are you killing the vibe man
@@kingwill1623 becoz he's facing against the Almighty Yhwach himself lol. If you think Hogyoku Aizen can survive against Yhwach then you're crazy. 😅
Aizen versus the Quincy after he defeats the zero division would be a funny video
He merks all of them using reiatsu until the yhwach elite squad pulls up
@@ladlad3179 he beats the elite squad no diff
Only sk absorbed yhwach would be a serious threat and probably even he could not defeat aizen (I think it will be an endless fight with no winner)
@@ladlad3179 if aizen defeats the zero division, he would have absorbed the sk and augment his power even more. I think sk aizen > sk yhwach
@@ALPHA_153 Aizen beat all elite squad including Geralt Valkyrie? Easily? I don't think so
Just throw gerard at him and wait for yhwach to restor his power
Would you redo this video after what we have learned so far from the squad zero vs the royal guard and how they sealed off their true powers as well?
Aizen with the Hogyoku is basically a buffed version of Gerard. Even if Ichibei manages to do what he did to Yhwach, and name him an ant, the Hogyoku could still come in clutch for him and revive him even stronger than he was before.
I wondered this for a long time,
but i just found the answer as:
Well, it's Aizen. He was a Teacher and just anyway, he's Aizen,
so of course he knew about the 0.Squad, duh.
So yeah, he must have been confident to win WITH the hogyoku.
The better question is: What is the attack-potency of Kido??
Ichibei can change the name of the Hogyokou itself....
@@oghaze9318
Yeah but even so, the Hogyoku is basically derived from the Soul King's own power something which eclipses Ichibei's own hax.
Plus with how its fused to Aizen, it could probably hide itself deep inside Aizen's body anyway. Or Aizen could just Kyoka Suigetsu Ichibei preventing him from doing this in the first place.
I’m of the opinion that Ichibeis ink is limited by his level of Reiorku(spelled that wrong)
As in I don’t think it would have worked against Ywach with the almighty given Ywach at this point was too strong and could neg it outright.
I think transcendent Aizen at this point would also have to much spiritual pressure for the ink to effect him.
Ichibei seemed to be comparable to Bankai Yama which was sweating at the idea of Aizen being free to help Ywach, not to mention Aizen was designated as a war power for his reiatsu as a special war power and was this designation made based on his pre Hogyoku self?
Like I don’t think Ywach knew about transcendent chair Aizens new abilities, when Ywach mentioned that his senses were messed with being next to Aizen he was shocked but obviously knew about Kyoka Suigetsu.
It leads me to wonder if he was shocked that Aizen didn’t need his sword release.
Bruh I didn't think about that...
I'm glad this video is back.
"So during the War Arc, Madara wiped out 10,000 members of the shinobi alliance as a warmup, but let's not forget that Aizen one-shotted Isshin, Yoruichi and Urahara in a form several dozens of versions before his current one".
It also doesn't matter. 10000 nobodies is the same as fighting nobody.
Yeah moreso when a fraction of Naruto's power is more than the combined power of the whole ninja alliance, when he gave a chakra cloak to the whole alliance Kakashi states that's more chakra than his full reserve and he's among the strongest in said army. So... Yeah, most of the Narutoverse are fodder
I agree pretty much with all of this bit tbf to the zero division they weren't "having trouble with the Quincy before the got their full power" Nimaiya literally one shotted every single one of them pre power up
I feel like kubo either knew exactly what he was doing creating someone who would be strong in whatever situation or he actually accidentally wrote himself into a corner. Aizen just feels so strong compared to the rest of the cast most of the time
Kubo overpowers his villains way too much. Aizen and Ywach were both way too overpowered, and the pay off for their defeat didn't feel great. Dangai Ichigo and final getsuga came out of nowhere, so did the silver arrow. Even Lillie and Gerard were too overpowered he needed deus ex machina to get rid of them.
@@rrypara ahhh at least we knew dangai ichigo came from months of training and a huge sacrifice from ichigo ( tho that didnt matter)
the defeat of Yhwach tho.. a lot of bs
Aways the same stupid "he wrote himself into a corner" comment, you should be thankful that he made great villains, also said the person with Whis as a profile pic 😂
@@rrypara All of that made sense and has explanation, yall are too lazy to understand and love to complain about it, also Yhwach defeat wasn't just the arrow, was the fake vision that Jugram give to him, those things that you and other lazy people don't know about.
I believe Aizen still pales in comparison to Yamamoto. Yamamoto’s spiritual pressure was so strong that during the TYBW arc it was pointed out he wasn’t even producing flames. The density of his spiritual pressure was so strong it appeared as a hellfire.
The unleashing of his Bankai threatened to destroy the Soul Society by just existing. Aizen, or any character for that matter, has yet to show that level of spiritual pressure. Even Ywatch could only kill him by making Yamamoto exhaust himself against a fake, and then stealing his Bankai, all while already being in a weakened state due to missing an arm.
The headcanon in me says the zero squad wasn't depicted as great due to rushing or behind the scenes issues so this isn't fair😂 but it is Aizen we are dealing with.. I do hope Kubo can rework the zero division in the anime to look better..
I think it's unfair to say that Squad Zero would lose so easily considering that most of them didn't even use their Shikai when Yhwach invaded, much less their Bankai (other than Ichibe). So their full potential isn't being taken into account.
Agreed but that speaks more to the weakness of squad zero. As the video talks about, squad zero had intel on ywhach but yet still were too cocky to use their full abilities. I would definitely think an unknown being would be taken even less seriously.
With the Latest I understand why they didn’t use it
They earn their Rep
@@mcpics4448 fr Kubo showed us😂
@@stop7556 that probably speaks more of kubo’s failure to deliver in the manga.
@williansouza8724 agreed, my opinion has changed since the animes corrections. While I think Aizen could win if he was killed enough but given what we were shown he def could've been bound by someone like senj without killing.
As long as Aizen has the Hogyoku everything boils down to: "If you want Aizen to be stronger in this fight, it will just happen".
He has an infinite supply of canonically supported "asspulls".
He basically got an nigh-infinitely powerful djinn with infinite wishes.
Aizen would say his speech about being above hollow and soul reaper and ichibe would be like "you're not dealing with the average soul reaper anymore"
@@Zero-ef4sc honestly, this ain’t even a stretch.
@@Zero-ef4sc Ain't Ichibe doesn't need to use blade to cut Aizen, right?
He just need to write Azien's name and that ability from a far, then those ability will perish.
@@Zero-ef4sc since ichibei knows Kyouka Suigetsu and all its powers he should be able to counter them also aizen has to release it in front of him in order to work
@@Zero-ef4sc So, does that mean Ichigo (in fake town arc) also under Aizen's mind control?
Because, Aizen also showed Ichigo his zanpakuto.
@@tkgamingman2858 tbh hed probably write Aizens name then the Hogyoku would just evolve Aizen into a being that doesnt need a name, which is a problem.
The true soul king has returned
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@@nenmaster5218 everyone loves Clyde
“plug a controller to play as aizen”
fascinating, so you think you’re controlling me?
Watching this makes me realise how lazy urahara is he didn’t even use bankai
The part where you tried to give the Zero Division the benefit of the doubt with Shikamaru and Batman is still hilarous. Enjoying this throwback, watched the whole way through. Great stuff to listen to as well.
an you make aizen collaborate with yowach
please make him cooperate like obito and madara would be so cool
Don't forget Captains can release shikai without saying anything, Aizen could just release Kyoka Suigetsu the moment the Zero Division eyes meet him. And if the Zero Division close their eyes, how can they react to his speed and power? Though it's a mystery why Aizen never used Kyoka Suigetsu against Ichigo, maybe there's more limitation that we didn't know of or something.
I'd like to think it's because of instinct
The biggest thing holding Ichigo back is himself, his own worries, fears, unwillingness to fight. Zangetsu literally believes that to be the main thing Ichigo needs to work on.
Take vasto lorde Ichigo for example he was mindless in that form and ran purely on instinct not reason. I assume this would be how Ichigo fights against KS not using his sense and just instinct. It's probably push Ichigo into a massively stronger state.
I think it was stated that Ichigo is immune to Kyoka Suigetsu, but I could be mistaken.
@@stormynight4895 nope, there was never such a statement. Aizen simply has never attempted to release his shikai on Ichigo.
@@stormynight4895 What you’re thinking of was the conversation with Unohana in the Garganta where she said, “you’re the only one to have not seen his blade, therefore you’re not under its effects.”
Pretty sure Aizens shikai was released the entire time. And in order for that to work ichigo would have to witness him releasing it again, which would mean sealing his zanpakuto and freeing everyone in the gotei 13 of his illusion
Clyde where are youuuu???.Its been months since the last vid and twitch stream, even in Clyde2! We miss you king!
The BBS 6th anni Aizen it is what would have happened if no one had interfered and stopped its development. It can be said that it must be measured with this consideration in order for the analysis to be more accurate
an you make aizen collaborate with yowach
please make him cooperate like obito and madara would be so cool
It was a shame to see the original taken down. Glad it was re-upload.
Dude, the zero division was the biggest letdown in anything. Heck, the creator of the zanpakuto having nothing special in his arsenal was ridiculous.
I think the only reason their considered stronger than the gotie 13 was because of ichibe
I mean zero division did fine considering the hacks the royal guard have especially after the auchwallen light buffs
When you can one-shot insta-kill immortal pieces of the Soul King like Gerard and Pernida so utterly that you negate their abilities, all before they can even react, you don't need anything special.
Dude Nimaiya bodied all 4 of the royal guard but then got plot armor Auswalened my guy what are you saying. Nimaiya plus Ichibei sealed the 2nd strongest hollow ever into a zanpaktou. Nimaiya is heavily slept on.
Pleebs " the zero division is too strong"
Kubo *off-screens almost the entire zero division with a random quincy*
Just saw the latest episode, Aizen would have gotten stomped, he never stood a chance. 😭
Kubo making Squad Zero them, Aizen is cool but glad he finally rewrote the fight and gave them a solid rank amongst the power scaling
Tbf, for all we know aizen is about to get massively amped , he might make ichibei look weak
@@asi3136 Him getting outta that chair will do numbers online, but would be something else if he's included in more in the final fight instead of acting like a shield or barrier for Ichigo
Bro aizen would slam them easily bro
This really just upscales aizen 😂 😭
were gonna need a new version of this from anime material.
The feel when you see a new Clyde video pop up on your feed.
I wondered this for a long time,
but i just found the answer as:
Well, it's Aizen. He was a Teacher and just anyway, he's Aizen,
so of course he knew about the 0.Squad, duh.
So yeah, he must have been confident to win WITH the hogyoku.
The better question is: What is the attack-potency of Kido??
@@loturzelrestaurant Yeah, he surely had plans.
@@nenmaster5218 Yep
Underrated comment
an you make aizen collaborate with yowach
please make him cooperate like obito and madara would be so cool
You said they would have no battle analysis which is false. Oetsu forged every Zanpakuto and Ichibei knows the name of every Zanpakuto. What we saw with Renji shows that they would definitely have an understanding of Aizen’s Zanpakuto.
I know how an AK-47 works, doesn’t make me immune to getting shot 😂😂😂😂
@@ClydeTH-camr how are you doing bro
@@ClydeTH-camrhey man i hope you are doing fine take care of yourself and your health rather than worrying about uploading much love from IND
@@ClydeTH-camr can't ichibei just take his powers away with ichimonji?
@Clyde great video. Just wanted to point something out at 8:01 , the reason Yhwach couldn’t break out of Kyoka Suigetsu was NOT because of aizens innate power.
It is because(stated in manga) The Almighty cannot affect parts of the Soul King, and Aizen fed the Hogyoku(and ultimately himself) some of the Soul Kings nails. This made his ability immune to Yhwach’s Schrift.
Otherwise, great vid!!!
This Squad and the Kido-Corpse are
the greatest Dissapointment and obviously prove that the manga
when animated needs massive fixing, not slight fixing.
I cant believe some people think only the last 1-2 chapters need fixing... i mean... what??
He aint one shoting The numba one zanpakuto creatooor🗣️🗣️📢📢📢🔥🔥🔥
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This whole scenario comes down to two things, has Ichibee seen Aizens shikai release and can Aizen's reiatsu flex hard enough to cancel Ichibee's hacks
Aizen fused with ks, his power massively sealed 70% put juha under ks in a chair.
While in that very same chair Aizen reishi flexed the entire zero division palace.
They stand no chance. Even ichibei.
@@tyronjasonhuff That's cuz KS is an absolute ability. It has nothing to do with a "70% power seal." I dunno even know where you got that from. Plus that wasn't even Juha in his strongest form with all his power either.
@@V.VIIIBeanman go read more bleach its illicitly stated. In tybw and in the novel after. Now argue with a wall.🤟🤣bye hun
@@V.VIIIBeanman KS was still active after Yhwach activated the almighty. So EoS absolutely claps the Zero Division.
Did aizen purposely destroy the cleaner for ichigo to get stronger since he said he’s planned all of things that occurred
That could be a case, cuz of his inner intentions and feelings
That and maybe he also wanted to test his powers
Of course he did that for Ichigo. It's pretty clear that he knew that his dad was going to train him in the dangai.
@@MiguelGarcia-nr7bk yeah bro, extremely clear... it was written on his forehead...
Without that move over for ichigo
New Shuutara feats.
He turns all of them into spaghetti and then has to work for it against ichibe
Something I'd debate: If Aizen is unaware of Ichimoji's power and uses Black Coffin [Which is basically his go-to], it's not unreasonable to say that Ichimonji could easily turn that power back upon Aizen since, after all;, Black Coffin is Black; and Ichimonji controls all Black.
While that wouldn't kill Aizen, having *his own power* reflected back upon him would almost certainly significantly damage and temporarily weaken him as he recovers, which could easily lead to Ichibei inking Aizen and then it's probably over from there. [Plus the hypothetical Ichebei's Bankai v the Hogyoku situation] Or Ichibei uses his sealing technique he was going to use on Yuha. [The temple thing]
I don't think Aizen 100% wins 0 difficulty; although him losing is somewhat dependent on how he chooses to fight. After all; this hypothetical Ichimonji v Black Coffin situation would only happen if Aizen uses Black Coffin. [Although Aizen has no way to know Ichimoji's abilities beforehand presumably.]
This aged like 🥛
Ukrrr
No u
Coming back 2 this once Shutara gets rekt first episode of cour 3.
Nah man
Zero Squad Earn their Rep after this Episode
Plot Aizen would curbstomp while normal Aizen would get hard stomped by Ichibei and his Hogyuku would get repurposed into something meaningless.
So, something I've always been a bit confused about with Aizen's power and I'm hoping someone could please clarify. Kanzen Saimin is said to be able to control the 5 primary external senses of sight, hearing, smell, touch, and taste. He uses this to completely fool several characters in combat to the point that they seemingly have no idea what is real and what isn't. But why doesn't anyone ever seem to try to sense Aizen? In theory he would need to be exerting at least a small amount of reiatsu to maintain the effects of Kanzen Saimin right? So characters should be able to use that to percieve Aizen in a way Kyoka Suigetsu can't control. Or is the Reiatsu sensing ability routed in the 5 main senses and thusly would be subject to Kyoka? The Bleach wiki does say that it should be possible to sense past the illusions but I don't remember seeing any character even attempt this. There are situations where this can make sense, like Hitsugaya being blinded by rage, but it just seems strange that not a single Shinigami, Visored, or Espada could, for example, see Aizen standing in front of them but feel his reiatsu moving behind them. (I'm aware his power eventually becomes too complex for them to sense but I'm mostly referencing before his transcendence.)
I think this was brought up when aizen fought yamamoto. Yamamoto was only to able sense aizen's reiatsu when aizen stabbed him and not before that. Yamamoto then grabbed aizens arm and was still able to sense him.This implies that kyoka suigetsu does cancel out your sensory abilities until you contact aizen or his sword.
@@xtensioncordtv1969 Wow. That's excessively broken then. Thanks!
You can't sense Aizen until you touch his Zanpakuto. 393ch Yamamoto words
@@coutren and that's only pre-hogyoku. Yhwach still believed he pierced Ichigo and cut Renji's arm during their fight.
It seems others have forgotten that skilled people are capable of concealing their reiatsu as well. Aizen is a top-tier Captain; who's to say he isn't concealing his reiatsu while using Shikai? With a skill like that, his enemies will have no choice but to rely on their five senses (which they obviously cant trust).
Tbh I think that the zero division were more like museum pieces (Kirio creating soul candy and so on) so I hope that if the zero division will be revitalized with actually powerful people (as in people not yet existent in the story).
Wait a second I remember this along with the light speed vid and early Ichigo power scale before he had shikai
The itachi double spy reveal theme 😍 3:43
i guess you could make an argument that aizens hipnossis can be broken when you touch him because ywach was able to see it was aizen not ichigo when he impaled him through the chest
We need 1000 more likes! I wanna see this kenpachi video Clyde is gonna do!
For aizen vs ichibe what I imagine is when sui fon used her shikai and stabbed aizen twice but it just didn’t work and faded away cause aizen reiatsu was so powerful. So maybe he could cancel out ichibe this way too
9:25 I'm pretty sure the UNMASKED data book also says that the cleaner, the Kototsu, controls time and space.
Friendly reminder, everything Aizen has ever done, he did without his Bankai...
an you make aizen collaborate with yowach
please make him cooperate like obito and madara would be so cool
You do realize he can't use anymore
And doesn't need it becaus he surpassed it
Cmon man it's a basic fact about aizen everyboy know that
He has literally used it
@@zenraloc What did Aizen ever do that you consider him using Bankai
He has surpassed using bankai. That's why he created the hogyoku in the first place. So no, his bankai is irrelevant.
Banger but Clyde. We need one of the ultimate bangers, you and chuck and Seth link up to make a Kisuke vs Mayuri video. It’s lit 🔥
Aizen being aware of yamamoto is something to be signified even yhwach was afraid of yamamoto pre absorbed soul king. The only way yhwach beated yamamoto was bcz yhwach stole his bankai.
Additionally the ALMIGHTY alone cannot beat yamamoto what the almighty does is peak into the future and swap different outcomes. Basically he can swap the future where he lost to the future where he wins. But you can't really do that if you're not strong enough to beat someone in the present.
Yhwach didn't beat yamamoto on their first encounter back when yamamoto was in his prime because back then even with the almighty there's basically no way he can beat yamamoto with his abilities at that time. So if yhwach don't have the abilities that can surpass yamamoto then the futures of winning will basically be zero.
Kinda like how hogyoku works in some sense it can turn your desires into reality but only if you're powerful enough to achieve them in the eyes of the hogyoku. It's kinda like a cheat code if you wanna build a house learn how to build one then the hogyoku will magically manifest a house based on the skills you have.
Nah I think past yhwach almighty was just to see the future like jugrams almighty so he got rekt by yamamoto and the only reason he got the altering part was because he absorbed the soul king.
Can you please do Aizen Vs The Schutestaffel next? Mainly the elite ones.
one point on kyoka suigetsu, in final arc isnt it said that "who would have thought not showing you my released Kyoka would benefit this way?" That gives me the impression that in some way it either loses its zanpakuto powers or aizen would still have to release it, as ichigo did fight him in his "merged" plus state. That was my understanding anyway
Had a shit day at work. Coming home to watch Clyde's re-upload of his Aizen vs Zero Division video made it better.
he would neg except ichibei imo. Clyde could u PLEASE do a video that scales Tybw Ichigo to Universal and Ftl+ or Mftl? I see so many different scales for Ichigoat but I would love a vid from the goat clyde himself. 🙏 awesome vid keep it up 🙏
Ichibei could just change the name of the Hogyoku. It can't evolve if it loses it's name or has it changed to something useless like "pencil".
@@dgrogan8423 yeah but we don’t know how that would work on the hyogoku. it might be light nah I gotta evolve so my name doesn’t change ya know
Hey clyde wanna thank you for uploading this video on a boring day at work rn, hope you enjoyed halloween as well too man stay safe!
This Squad and the Kido-Corpse are
the greatest Dissapointment and obviously prove that the manga
when animated needs massive fixing, not slight fixing.
I cant believe some people think only the last 1-2 chapters need fixing... i mean... what??
so people get a sense of the difference in power
Yhwach pre Almighty < Ichibei
Yhwach Post True power/Almighty > One shot Ichibei
Yhwach Post SK >>>>>> Ichibei
Yhwach Post SK + Post SR absorbtion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ichibei.
and Aizen could still affect Yhwach in his strongest state with his Powers/Reaitsu.
Butterfly Aizen one shots every single Zero Squad member
Monster Aizen makes them Kneel
EOS aizen blinks them.
5:30- Though it could be an infamous case of Kubo's "I have an ability, but it's so situational and I don't like it for egotistical/superficial/aesthetic/power is impractical reasons that I didn't use my full power when it could've been useful anytime in hindsight" with the other four members.
why that scenario wont work. ichibe names all the zanpoktu powers and knows all of the powers of your blade. they would never let themselves fall under the effects of ks. ichibe most likely would know exactly how to counter fighting ks. werent they also watching what was happening and didnt come down to help because they didnt see aizen as a threat? yhwachs abilities weren't even a threat to ichibe except almighty. before that it was a one sided fight in ichibes favor. i honestly doubt a pre tybw aizen could legitimately stop ichibei.
I was like “Deja Vu?”
I agree with you that by feats and showings Aizen wins against the Zero Division, but what do you think about Azashiro's remark about Aizen having only 40% chance of beating that division?
I'd argue that Aizen DID win. He's becoming exponentially more powerful as he sits, strapped to a chair. Completely immortal, unkillable. All he has to do is wait.
Saying the spiritual pressure would nullify Ichibe’s ink is kinda out there considering it worked on Ywach
yeah Ywach is basically a mini rei-o (soul king, the is the strongest being ever to exist in bleach by a country mile)
finally a fucking powerscaler that didn't do that self righteous fundraisers
Great analysis! The Zero Division would definitely put up a fight but I think the key is if Ichibe can affect the Hōgyoku or not. If not then Aizen wins.
One thing I’ll say is that Bleach Brave Soul’s 6th anniversary showed what the potential form of Aizen could be after Mugetsu. It’s definitely based off of him fusing with his sword + the Hōgyoku evolving his Butterfly form
Thanks for the video! re-upload or not! ❤🥳
I'mpretty sure I said this in the original release too, but people need to remember the fact the Fullbringer Ichigo (after healing in the hot-springs) _accidentally_ broke Kirinji's hand. And that version of Ichigo is on the same level as one-armed Yama _at best_. So yeah, unless Ichibei pulls out some super-hax, they get fodderized. And same thing if current day Ichigo rolls up there. They would just be vaporized by the raw power.
Yama is way stronger than that Ichigo, that's not even an comparison.
@@coolbruh2973 he probably meant the base form of yama
@@coolbruh2973 so yama is also stronger than HOS Ichigo? Dont make laugh lol 😂
Maybe this video would go differently now after kubo fixed what he did to squad 0 in manga did them dirty. Now its all fixed so this would be really different.
This is exactly why I don't think Madara can beat Aizen. While he's doing jutsus, Aizen is ripping limbs out of sockets while his aura alone can rip apart an enemy's flesh. I'd argue that the Gotei thirteen was stronger than they were after the zero division visit.
Aizen obliterates the naruto and boruto verse by existing
@@pyro9309 Shibai Otsutsuki is laughting rn
Nimaiya and Ichibei clap his cheeks
For several transformations
Aizen claps them all no diff. Ichibei isn't a Transcendent being so his ink doesn't do shit once Aizen becomes one. Mausoleum is the only attack Ichibei has that can even stand a chance, but Aizen can most likely negate it via Reiatsu OR simply not let Ichibei incant that shit. Either way, Zero Division stand 0 fucking chance.
So ywach isn't a transcendent being is what your saying? Despite the fact shikari *kenpachi* is(neat little detail there if you go back to the start of the gremmy fight that's the implication, his squad members couldn't feel him anymore, but others could which leads into the bellow point)
Also that doesn't mean what you seem to think it does, just because your transcendent to one person doesn't mean you are to another. it's not an explicit state of being it a representation of how far above individual beings you are.
You making this video was part of Aizen's plan!!!
2:36 you got this wrong they are above captain level as it was stated the zero division is equal to the gotei in terms of strength
Yes, it's stated that the five members of the Zero Division alone are equal to the entire Gotei 13. However 4 of them lost to several Sternritters that the Gotei beat. Ichibei must be the overwhelming majority of the Zero Division's strength just like Yamamoto was the majority of the Gotei 13's strength.
@@MaskOfCinder I think it's widely understood that this was insanely bad writing for the sake of plot convenience. How is Byakuya (who received a buff from Kirinji + RG training) putting up a better show w/ help against a stronger form of Gerard than the people responsible for his buff? Yes I get that fight was 3v1 but it just makes no sense.
@@MaskOfCinder ehhh i don’t know, i don’t see ichibe being the sole reason they are equal. Oetsu seems to easily be way above captain level with his one shot sword. We really didn’t get to see enough to say but i think it’s likely they are all above captain level
rip to the original video. In any case, as per usual Clyde is spot on here, though I would argue one petty point. No way is anyone in the zero division just gonna melt out of existence as a result of just Aizen's spiritual pressure. in his pre butterfly form the only people we saw vanish were literally just normal humans. thats how large the gap has to be. Aizen wipes the floor in this battle, but the dif between transcendent Aizen and the zero division is not the same as the dif between pre butterfly Aizen and some rando human. its massive, but its not that large.
Oetsu doesn't get near enough respect.
Really enjoyed your Conor mcgregor video would you be down to do part 2?
I love discussions like this but what I’m going to say is that we never saw the full potential of the zero squad. We never saw any of their bankais except Ichibe. I’m taking the zero squad in this fight. From what we know aizen might win but I’m going to die in belief that the zero squad is OP af it’s just that kubo was rushed to finish the manga and did them dirty
now that the anime is back it will be so sad and terrible if all the errors of manga are followed in anime without any corrections. I hope they fix mistakes.
Ichibe: Exists...
Aizen: Bankai !
The only problem aizen will have is ichibei
TH-cam did you dirty, hope you reload you’re other videos, they were a lot of fun.
Clyde: What if Aizen fought the zero division?
Me: He would have won.
Lol, a man of culture indeed.
Without pre-showing them his shikai release, he gets absolutely murdered.
Yeah i hope you have the bawls to not burn/delete this video after how badly wrong this was proven to be today
It was not. Learn how to read. It doesn't matter what the 0 division show when the guy invading them outscales them by existing.
@@Tyler_Frenzy learn how to scale because he doesn't
Dangai Ichigo and pre TYBW Hougyoku Aizen didn't make all of SS tremble let alone 3 different worlds *on 3 different dimensions*
edit btw neither did the posterior versions of them but i suspect that could be because TYBW Aizen's Reiatsu wich is widely believed to have increased is tied to his body by Mayuri's fabrications
and in Ichigo's case because his True Bankai never got to be properly released being destroyed instantly the first time and the second time while he had recovered the ability thanks to Orihime and Tsukishima
his Reiatsu was heavily depleted by Yhwach and they shouldn't have enough power to fully recover Ichigo's full Reiatsu reserves in such a small gap of time
either that or they're getting recontextualized in the future of the TYBW anime now
but the previous iterations of them aren't getting the same treatment and will remain bellow the true power of The Zero Squad members
tbf it aint his fault, this is basically a new canon
@@valentinodelapena7699 that's entirely true
i always defended that Zero Squad wasn't as entirely useless as nost people claimed with things like "Nimaiya is 15% of the groups power Ichibei is 70% and the rest is the remaining 15%"
people acted like the Cage wasn't helping nerf that Quincy's
like Kirinji didn't saved Nimaiya from Askin
(Like Kirinji and Hikifune weren't faster than Nimaiya when they jumped in front of the bullet to try and save him from Lille
and other things
but i must admit that not even i expected this
Istg you waves of mindless fanbois are the worst to come out of the TYBW
The Madara quote, "Why would an adult ever get serious against children?" comes to mind.
Aizen would quote that to Madara.
The reverse turns out to be true with the latest episode lol
They earn their Rep
Love the video!
However I would put to you that Aizen wasn't 'so powerful' to have survived the Mugetsu, rather that since he had actually fused with the Hogyoku, and that the regeneration was just the passive survivability of that entity that cannot be destroyed.
Furthermore it's kind of stated by Urahara that this final form isn't a power step up, rather it's the Hogyoku's sentient realisation that Aizen isn't worth it anymore and allows his powers to fall to the point where previously established Kidou can now work.
Thats not right tho did u even try to read the chapter after the fight ended
@@shariqikram5832 enlighten me
@@Crey_Rob kisukes hypothesis was countered by ichigo himself in the next moment the hogyoku never rejected Aizen but he just wanted to feel normal his inner desire due to solitude
The hogyoku just granted this wish
Ichigo takes a shit:
Nobody:
No one at all:
Aizen: This was all apart of my plan
As per new episode Senjumaru solos.
Aye The Finial Episode of what if came out
But didnt any of the Zero Squad not even use Shikai or bankai?
I feel like Oetsu could be really strong with Shikai or bankai.
I'll watch the full advert just for you Clyde! 😘