Albrecht also says they at the very end of his notes Maybe we will enter the void by the very portal he first used….. Or right back to the very beginning, of all things
@@OrangeCreamsicle would be interesting if they did send us off to somewhere legitimately alien. remember, everything we face in the origin system, wether it be the grineer, the corpus, even the infested, everything is "post-human". certainly the infested has drifted FAR from the human form, but the meat that makes up its writhing mass once belonged to descendants of man. id like to see DE show us ACTUAL aliens, not just enemies, but potential allies.
@@YOURteacher_100 they can, thats how the sentients made it to tau in the first place, and back for the old war. it just cost them their ability to reproduce, as the orokin planned. tho the retaliation for dooming the future of their own creations was most likely not planned. i feel the orokin as a species were much like gideon ofnir, they thought they knew everything, and would act on their assumptions without hesitation, and with much arrogance, until it slaps them in the face, even then, they refuse to admit they were wrong.
"HE has followed you home. To your tiny, little life, just behind the drywall. You. Your family. Your friends. Your loved ones. Your enemies. Everything you know, everything you've ever known, everything you ever will know. All your hopes and joys. All your fears and griefs. To HIM, they are all as motes of dust. HE is looking at you, for merely a moment. And HE is wondering, whether to get a drop of syrup, or a can of bug spray."
From what I understand, Man in the Wall is an indifferent eldritch entity-a god, or according to some, a manifestation of the void itself. He’s neither good nor bad, but acts on his own volition, for his own interests. He’s something straight out of H.P. Lovecraft's nightmares, and I can’t wait to get more on his character overall!
What if it doesn't have its own volition? Its discoverer feared it, *contaminated* it with his fear, and by this act, this emotion, left it with a single paradigm, a precept, upon which to act.
@@IxodesPersulcatus totally agree. Even this video implies that Albrecht first shaped it. So it acts according to expectations of people, who interacted with it most: first it was Entrati, who gave it a general form and idea out of the fear that doppelganger will take his place in the real world. Second, was Rell: religious and autistic boy, who fought it and added all the mystical aspects to the thing.
We look into the void And in doing so we give it a shape Form Limits We clamp it in shackles with our gaze We force it out of nothingness But it is only a mockery of ourselves Trapped in the wall between us and the void It is cursed by us By our actions So it will do everything in its power… To return the favour
This is quite frankly INCREDIBLE. Pulling every scrap of lore as far back as Heart of Deimos and Chains of Harrow, the seeds that have been growing in the background without anyone truly understanding what they were. The Great Indifference has been slowly paying more and more attention to us, and we are now truly seeing the horrors that may await the system should we fail to hold it on the other side of the Untime Door- that is, if we arent too late already.
This statement of his is interesting, because it seems that he only has power because the "Kiddo, who is nothing without him", is stronger because the Operator is also getting stronger.
so, why is wally called "the indifference"? he takes sides. he saves the tenno but not their parents. He laughs, he smiles smugly, he jumpscares us, he taunts those that interact with him. "Hey Kiddo" "Little Bengel" "Remember Kiddo, you're nothing without me." He coyly waves from atop the reliquary drive on our railjack with a finger held down, mockingly is this what anyone would call "indifference"? seems to be the exact opposite and then remember Conceptual Embodiment - how when the Void and emotion/consciousness mix, it results in creation? Its how the Holdfasts and Duviri were made. The void responds not to indifference, but to its opposite: emotion
The 'Indifference' is what the Void was made as not only does the Void create as a result of emotion and consciousness, but it reflects. In simple terms, 'Wally' started out as a reflection of all that Albrecth Entrati wasn't, and was shunned by his reflection (Entrati). It is strong, it is cold, it is cocky. It was the complete opposite, a cold and uncaring mind unlike the one that it was birthed from. But now, it has gotten curious... and in so, it becomes more like it's other, but different. He does not 'take sides'. It would be like asking Cthulu his reasoning for ending the world when the matter is simply 'Because they do'.
I'm also enjoying the perspective that as humans use the void, the Man in the Wall becomes what is left behind from what we take. Tenno use the void to gain control, so chaos is cast upon the wall. Albrecht uses the void to gain wisdom, so madness is cast upon the wall.
[Spoiler Warning] in a dialogue option with Eleanor on the in-game computer, she talks about feeling the indifferences gaze first hand and breaking down, and when she did it "smiled" at her misery "like crushing a gnat under your nail". I'm guessing this means HE's indifferent at the least but malicious most of the Time.
Perhaps indifferent like how you’d be indifferent when crushing an insect. It remains a cruel act, you can laugh at it, think about crying, but at the end of the day you’ll move on like it was nothing.
This has been years in the making Since we first heard of it, to literally fighting it It ain’t just a regular god were fighting, but something from the H.P mythos
VOULL NE XATA VOK: "VOULL NE" could still suggest negation or absence, while "XATA VOK" may refer to "Truth" and "Void" respectively. So, this part could imply something like "No truth in the void" or "Void without truth." MARA LOHK: "MARA" representing the player character and "LOHK" meaning "Void" could imply a connection between the player character and the Void. It could suggest a warning or a statement about the player's involvement with or relationship to the Void. Considering this interpretation, the phrase might be warning the player character about the nature of truth or reality within the void, or it could be indicating the player's connection to or interaction with the void. It's still somewhat cryptic without further context
Logically, though it makes no sense when talking about Void, how are we going to fight against what has given us the strength to overcome all that is already in the past?
I think the touch is a key component, the touch you give the other colossal Warframe at the end of Whispers in the Wall. The void was given form from Albrecht's fear. He mentions in his notes how he keeps looking at someone he doesn't recognise anymore, the weight of an immortal life and the stagnant routine of it all. I think most of all he was afraid of being alone, not so much physically but all the detachment he was experiencing from his family and peers. It wasn't until he saw how much Loid cared for him, to bring him back to health and truly love him that awoke him to live again, to step out of his entrenched depressive state. It's very unclear about WHAT the void wants and what this being is actually trying to achieve, it seems with all the influence it currently does have, it could kill and destroy as it saw fit, but the deal making, the making itself known to others and it visiting us on our orbiter constantly, it seems to be searching for something. I could very well be wrong, they definitely keep selling this thing as an overwhelming threat but I'm wondering if the choices we've been making won't come into play in how we deal with The Man in the Wall, perhaps empathy and kindness might be the key to everything. "And it was not their force of will, not their Void devilry, not their alien darkness... it was something else. It was that somehow, from within the derelict-horror, they had learned a way to see inside an ugly broken thing...and take away its pain."
I wouldn't take Sythel's claims that The man in the wall exists because of Albricht at face value. DE loves using unreliable narrators. It's very possible the man in the wall is the oldest entity in the entirety of the warframe universe. a being beyond time which would explain how he was in 1999.
The man in the wall, and the Indifference, are things separate from the void proper. Our Wally, too, is more a projection of our character than a neutral void manifestation
Lohk Lohk Zhaeta Jahoo Homm (blank) Pass Vplt 1 Mdl L Vplt 2 Kra. what you get if you take the orokin text on albrechts entries and place them in the order he reads the requiems in lohk.
Seems to be the barrier that separates our world from the void. If you're interested in theory crafting I highly recommend checking out StallordD, TheDsIEGE and SocraTetris here on youtube.
@@commanderjango1487 I don't have a particular video in mind, but here are links to the channels: www.youtube.com/@StallordD www.youtube.com/@TheDsIEGE www.youtube.com/@SocraTetris
Just realized, in the final cutscene of Whispers in the Walls, Wally finishes with the last bit of Khra. "We end as we began"
Albrecht also says they at the very end of his notes
Maybe we will enter the void by the very portal he first used…..
Or right back to the very beginning, of all things
@YOURteacher_100 the weird portal thing from the old version of the intro sequence will take us to tau 🙏
@@OrangeCreamsicle The void portal?
Considering we never made it there, and sentients can’t enter the void….
@@OrangeCreamsicle would be interesting if they did send us off to somewhere legitimately alien. remember, everything we face in the origin system, wether it be the grineer, the corpus, even the infested, everything is "post-human". certainly the infested has drifted FAR from the human form, but the meat that makes up its writhing mass once belonged to descendants of man. id like to see DE show us ACTUAL aliens, not just enemies, but potential allies.
@@YOURteacher_100 they can, thats how the sentients made it to tau in the first place, and back for the old war. it just cost them their ability to reproduce, as the orokin planned. tho the retaliation for dooming the future of their own creations was most likely not planned. i feel the orokin as a species were much like gideon ofnir, they thought they knew everything, and would act on their assumptions without hesitation, and with much arrogance, until it slaps them in the face, even then, they refuse to admit they were wrong.
"HE has followed you home. To your tiny, little life, just behind the drywall.
You. Your family. Your friends. Your loved ones. Your enemies. Everything you know, everything you've ever known, everything you ever will know. All your hopes and joys. All your fears and griefs. To HIM, they are all as motes of dust.
HE is looking at you, for merely a moment. And HE is wondering, whether to get a drop of syrup, or a can of bug spray."
gives me the chills...
From what I understand, Man in the Wall is an indifferent eldritch entity-a god, or according to some, a manifestation of the void itself. He’s neither good nor bad, but acts on his own volition, for his own interests.
He’s something straight out of H.P. Lovecraft's nightmares, and I can’t wait to get more on his character overall!
He is the single thing that exists outside Eternalism
He is time, he is space, he is the void
Also agreed even Wally would give HP nightmares
And very much a threat just by merely existing and kuva is his blood, the very thing orokin take to stay immortal and blue
What if it doesn't have its own volition?
Its discoverer feared it, *contaminated* it with his fear, and by this act, this emotion, left it with a single paradigm, a precept, upon which to act.
@@IxodesPersulcatus totally agree. Even this video implies that Albrecht first shaped it. So it acts according to expectations of people, who interacted with it most: first it was Entrati, who gave it a general form and idea out of the fear that doppelganger will take his place in the real world. Second, was Rell: religious and autistic boy, who fought it and added all the mystical aspects to the thing.
We look into the void
And in doing so we give it a shape
Form
Limits
We clamp it in shackles with our gaze
We force it out of nothingness
But it is only a mockery of ourselves
Trapped in the wall between us and the void
It is cursed by us
By our actions
So it will do everything in its power…
To return the favour
This is quite frankly INCREDIBLE. Pulling every scrap of lore as far back as Heart of Deimos and Chains of Harrow, the seeds that have been growing in the background without anyone truly understanding what they were. The Great Indifference has been slowly paying more and more attention to us, and we are now truly seeing the horrors that may await the system should we fail to hold it on the other side of the Untime Door- that is, if we arent too late already.
We are too late. But next time we won't be.
"I luminous space, blacked stars, they *gaze, accuse, deny*"
Xaku's abilities of the void-lost frames...
He also has grasp of lohk and xata's whisper both named after requiems
"All the voids creations must find a light"
"Hey did you lose your light? Here, you can have mine."
"Thanks kiddo, i think i will."
Who spoke the first line/when?
OH DAMN i never realized this until i read your comment, damn thats major chills
But i will take half >:)
"Don't forget kiddo... You're nothing without me."
This statement of his is interesting, because it seems that he only has power because the "Kiddo, who is nothing without him", is stronger because the Operator is also getting stronger.
Stunning compilation: well done! (My hubby Stefan Rudnicki voices Entrati.) This helped me put a lot of the pieces together. 💯
Thank you! He has a fantastic voice, can't wait to hear more of him :)
Is that just a term of endearment, or is he actually married to you???
@@quantumblauthor7300. They been common-law married for 10 years. I was at the wedding 😉.
PLEASE tell him how amazing we find his performance 💜
Your husband's voice work is incredible. Every single line of Albrecht's dialogue feels like it's burning it's way off the page in his delivery.
This video has no business being this good.
Such a banger I heard the walls clappin
"Are you mad at me, kiddo? Did you forget? You owe me"
Okay, WELL DONE!!! This edit blew my socks off! I'll be sharing this with all my friends.
so, why is wally called "the indifference"?
he takes sides. he saves the tenno but not their parents. He laughs, he smiles smugly, he jumpscares us, he taunts those that interact with him. "Hey Kiddo" "Little Bengel" "Remember Kiddo, you're nothing without me." He coyly waves from atop the reliquary drive on our railjack with a finger held down, mockingly
is this what anyone would call "indifference"? seems to be the exact opposite
and then remember Conceptual Embodiment - how when the Void and emotion/consciousness mix, it results in creation? Its how the Holdfasts and Duviri were made. The void responds not to indifference, but to its opposite: emotion
The opposite of indiffenve is love
The 'Indifference' is what the Void was made as not only does the Void create as a result of emotion and consciousness, but it reflects. In simple terms, 'Wally' started out as a reflection of all that Albrecth Entrati wasn't, and was shunned by his reflection (Entrati). It is strong, it is cold, it is cocky. It was the complete opposite, a cold and uncaring mind unlike the one that it was birthed from. But now, it has gotten curious... and in so, it becomes more like it's other, but different. He does not 'take sides'. It would be like asking Cthulu his reasoning for ending the world when the matter is simply 'Because they do'.
I'm also enjoying the perspective that as humans use the void, the Man in the Wall becomes what is left behind from what we take. Tenno use the void to gain control, so chaos is cast upon the wall. Albrecht uses the void to gain wisdom, so madness is cast upon the wall.
[Spoiler Warning] in a dialogue option with Eleanor on the in-game computer, she talks about feeling the indifferences gaze first hand and breaking down, and when she did it "smiled" at her misery "like crushing a gnat under your nail". I'm guessing this means HE's indifferent at the least but malicious most of the Time.
Perhaps indifferent like how you’d be indifferent when crushing an insect. It remains a cruel act, you can laugh at it, think about crying, but at the end of the day you’ll move on like it was nothing.
This is such a cool video. Man in the Wall is such a terrifying concept, and your edit did the creature justice.
And we Tenno will stop this vast horror… this… indifference
Beautifully edited together!
Albrecht Entrati: When no ocean mountain or sky could contain us, our GAZE hungered starward
TH-cam subtitles: Our gays hungered starward.
Immortal as we are, we die with the sun ✍️✍️✍️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Whispers in the walls: "The deal was shook"
Warframe 1999: Keep ypur powers, drifter :>
This has been years in the making
Since we first heard of it, to literally fighting it
It ain’t just a regular god were fighting, but something from the H.P mythos
Very very well put together
VOULL NE XATA VOK, MARA LOHK.
Google translate says it can translate this, but does nothing
This is what the man in the wall says@@quantumblur_3145
VOULL NE XATA VOK: "VOULL NE" could still suggest negation or absence, while "XATA VOK" may refer to "Truth" and "Void" respectively. So, this part could imply something like "No truth in the void" or "Void without truth."
MARA LOHK: "MARA" representing the player character and "LOHK" meaning "Void" could imply a connection between the player character and the Void. It could suggest a warning or a statement about the player's involvement with or relationship to the Void.
Considering this interpretation, the phrase might be warning the player character about the nature of truth or reality within the void, or it could be indicating the player's connection to or interaction with the void. It's still somewhat cryptic without further context
@@hanskarush5803 only one of those three paragraphs had any substance
It translates to the language of the entrati it say “she knows death is near” 😱
If going by the description and u plan on remaking this id suggest adding Archimedian Yonta's dialogue too as she has experience with Wally aswell
This is an amazing video, with clever and clean editing!
Logically, though it makes no sense when talking about Void, how are we going to fight against what has given us the strength to overcome all that is already in the past?
The only way to kill a mimic is to force it to mimic something designed to die
@@quantumblauthor7300Who or what is designed to die in Warframe in your opinion?
@@LukiKruki limbo
@@quantumblauthor7300 you might have miscalculated your response
I think the touch is a key component, the touch you give the other colossal Warframe at the end of Whispers in the Wall. The void was given form from Albrecht's fear. He mentions in his notes how he keeps looking at someone he doesn't recognise anymore, the weight of an immortal life and the stagnant routine of it all. I think most of all he was afraid of being alone, not so much physically but all the detachment he was experiencing from his family and peers. It wasn't until he saw how much Loid cared for him, to bring him back to health and truly love him that awoke him to live again, to step out of his entrenched depressive state.
It's very unclear about WHAT the void wants and what this being is actually trying to achieve, it seems with all the influence it currently does have, it could kill and destroy as it saw fit, but the deal making, the making itself known to others and it visiting us on our orbiter constantly, it seems to be searching for something. I could very well be wrong, they definitely keep selling this thing as an overwhelming threat but I'm wondering if the choices we've been making won't come into play in how we deal with The Man in the Wall, perhaps empathy and kindness might be the key to everything.
"And it was not their force of will, not their Void devilry, not their alien darkness... it was something else. It was that somehow, from within the derelict-horror, they had learned a way to see inside an ugly broken thing...and take away its pain."
Beautiful compilation! Thanx!
So he's the raven who calls, drawling on and on.
We end as we began, alone
This is amazing, excellent work!
This is freaking amazing
A perfect Summary i realy liked.
Ok this is amazing
Great video!
3:51 is new to me. How is it accessed?
It's the 1st mission into the whispers in the wall quest though the footage is from the tennocon demo
Unless you mean the dialogue which is one of the lines sythel says if you approach her in her hut in Duviri
"Haven't you heard i'm the vigilante. I clean up mess like you."
_Wally actualizes a reality where your lungs don't work_ "Say somethin?"
ahhh my brain...
I wouldn't take Sythel's claims that The man in the wall exists because of Albricht at face value. DE loves using unreliable narrators.
It's very possible the man in the wall is the oldest entity in the entirety of the warframe universe. a being beyond time which would explain how he was in 1999.
The man in the wall, and the Indifference, are things separate from the void proper. Our Wally, too, is more a projection of our character than a neutral void manifestation
Sythel may be written off as paranoid by Duviri folk, but she seems the most aware of what's going on.
Lohk Lohk Zhaeta Jahoo Homm (blank) Pass Vplt 1 Mdl L Vplt 2 Kra.
what you get if you take the orokin text on albrechts entries and place them in the order he reads the requiems in lohk.
What is the wall of Lohk
Seems to be the barrier that separates our world from the void. If you're interested in theory crafting I highly recommend checking out StallordD, TheDsIEGE and SocraTetris here on youtube.
@@tukib_ do you have a link to them?
@@commanderjango1487 I don't have a particular video in mind, but here are links to the channels:
www.youtube.com/@StallordD
www.youtube.com/@TheDsIEGE
www.youtube.com/@SocraTetris
helt fel
@@Huli-Man could be, lol
i dont even know what to coment.
this is intense to say the least