I wish ALL mechanics had your values! You use only approved fluids and you know what to look for during an inspection. I really love your videos because I learn so much. You are a true professional!!! Cheers to you!!!!
I own an automotive repair shop in Los Angeles, we are a small mom and pop shop, and have a full five stars on yelp and Google. It frustrates me to see videos like this. Not all repair shops are like this, but unfortunately many are. Whether intentional or not, it makes me really proud of our work. I’m always on top of my mechanic, just like when he was doing this exact job on a 2013 Escalade this past Monday morning. A customer requested differential fluid exchange, and with it being AWD, We did the front diff, rear diff, and although he did not ask for it, did the transfer case fluid exchange. He is a long time customer and probably did not realize that he needed it as he is not too mechanically savvy. I mentioned it to him when he picked up the car, and I showed him the fluids from both differentials and transfer case, explaining why the transfer case fluid (which calls for ATF) appeared like gear oil. I explained Dexron-VI is atf however is a clear fluid, opening a new bottle in front of him to show him. He told us ‘this is why I come to you, you just know what’s best and I know you’re always ready to show me what you did.’ It’s a shame this guy got screwed. Mechanics are rarely thorough and honest. Glad we still run our shop the right way.
I'm not sure about the fluid, but if the torque converter has old fluid in it, once it mixed with the new, the fluid will not look shiny and new like out of the bottle.
From my experience with chi I have over 15 years of if, the fluid brand doesn’t matter as long as it meats the specks. From the looks of that fluid is from not being change on a scheduled maintenance.
4Runner4life98 i want to work for this guy im tired of working for shitty shops that would probably do this to customers anyone who knows anything about the automotive industry they know all data tells you the exact gear oil or trans fluid you’re supposed to use and how much typically goes in i know its not always accurate but still works most the time and random thing i think gear oil smells the worst I rather get covered in diesel oil which stings when it gets on your skin
this video is fake and is made only with the purpose of obtaining views. you can say viewers have no way to check the claims been made in the video. the incentive of making false statements is high and pays off in therms of popularity increasing the subscribers base
@@davecrupel2817 Even the good ones have to make a quota. They can't spend all day babying your old junker. They got bills to pay. I try to do the work myself, but not everybody can do it.
@@jerryp2433 who said anything about spending all day TLCing my old junker car? Have you not been paying f#cking attention? I just need someone that's not going to try to wring me of every penny I have.
It shows there are dishonest oil change businesses and dishonest mechanics. This was a great video revealing what can happen to an unsuspecting customer. Glad you inspected the vehicle and corrected the problem. Thanks for an honest inspection.
I agree. There a a couple ways of looking at this outcome. The first would be there is a inexperienced individual that gets paid less than a McDonald's employee doing a service to your vehicle. They may or may not be there just for a paycheck and not just ownership and pride of their work. The other school of thought is it is cheaper for a shop to cut corners and do the the bare minimum just to turn a marginal profit. They took the low road in the hopes of having a repeat costumer. Peter is the exception to the rule. He believes that if you only have time to do the job right do it right the first time. Because where are you going to find time to do it again. His quality of work and service after the fact is bar none exceptional. As his service videos shows. I just hope that people take away the knowledge that there are two ways of doing things. The right way and the wrong way.
"The first would be there is a inexperienced individual that gets paid less than a McDonald's employee doing a service to your vehicle." A few months ago I was with a friend at Walmart for tire mounting. The Walmart auto tech manager was explaining to another auto employee that the manager had to routinely add brake fluid to his car's master cylinder *because everyone knows brake fluid evaporates over time* this was his own car, imagine what he tell customers! I would not have believed this if I wasn't standing there listening to the conversation, too wrong and unbelievable.
Had dodge dealership change my fluids. Oil filter leaked. They didn’t remove old oring from previous filter. Didn’t put in enough oil. Needless to say. I do my own service now.
Only problem with doing your own service is that it will void many factory warranties. I don't buy new vehicles myself, so I do not have to worry about any warranties, so I do all my own services too.
I had some cocksucker mechanic cross-thread and apparently IMPACT wrench my oil plug and completely stripped the pan out. You can't even trust them to do basic stuff, most of them are high school flunkies.
@Fergus Redpath I ran across a stripped drain plug on a pick-up truck when I was a mechanic. Was so bad, we couldn't even get the drain plug even out after removing the drain pan. We ended up replacing the drain pan. It was last serviced at a lube center, not sure which one.
I had a friend that took her car to Iffy Lube and they forgot to put in new oil when they drained it. Her car's engine was destroyed. She took Iffy lube to small claims court and won her case.
@@thedetective8150 un-fucking-believable. In such a competative world idk how these places can even get away with this shit. I've had my own nightmare experiences with scumbag auto chains and started doing all my own maintenance myself ever since (about 15 years now)
@@firebladex8586 I hear ya bro. I do most of my vehicle maintenance and took a basic auto repair course at my local Junior College. I am fortunate that I know two honest mechanics that are auto shop business owners. They do well because they are honest business men and operate their auto repair businesses with integrity. There should be more enforcement on auto repair scammers because they are worse than thieves.
For the transmission oil, if you haven't changed the oil in a long time and just add in 3 quarts (which is recommended), there is no way the fluid will look new. It will get diluted with the old. The only way is to flush out all the old oil (not recommended) and add in roughly up to 13 quarts. On the other hand, if you flush your fluid on a regular basis and then add in new oil, overtime the color show look much cleaner (assuming you have no internal gear issues). This is why they have schedule maintenance.
Absolutely ridiculous and such a fraudulent shop! As a retired military helicopter mechanic and flight crew on the UH 60 Black Hawk, I performed all kinds of services and repairs, including fluid level checks, oil sampling for testing at the oil lab, drain and flushing of the gear boxes, transmission, other modules and engines, including inspection of components, replacement of o-rings and filters. I took great pride in my work, whether I was going to fly in it or not, as lives of the crew and passengers were at stake.
My wife had her brakes on our handicap van done at a Goodyear shop down the hill. She went to take off and the pedal hit the floor. Drum brakes not disk. She used the emergency brake and called me. I came right down and chewed the manager out. I watched while they adjusted the brakes and bled them. I should have called the Auto Club so they would have been witnesses. Hindsight always has better answers.
@@bff1316 Yes! Always wise after the event. Had a Dealership obviously put the wrong oil in a Manual Transmission. No Oil leaks. Never leaked after. Not a drop. Would not stay in overdrive one night on a trip. Had to do about 100km in 4th Gear to get home. Next morning checked. Hardly any oil in the Transmission. Changed it and like a fool did not keep the Oil with a good Witness. Forever after had a whine in overdrive. Never lost a drop of Oil again. Whoever they obviously put Oil in that could not tolerate the heat. It just vaporized off. No witness, no Oil. I was an idiot.
Retired 58D guy here. Maintainers never let me down my entire career. In a single engine aircraft there’s little room for fudging. Thank you keeping our aircraft up and running!!!
I work on my vehicles most of the time. But when I had my 2013 Toyota Tacoma TRD Sport 4WD Transmission service at the Toyota Dealership, I made it a point to the service desk that I will be right there while the tech performed my transmission service. The Toyota Dealership agreed with me and I was right there with him when he done the service. Also the same for my Wife SUV. Thank You for great videos and we need more honest Mechanics like yourself.
@@fastfeets2695 Same here in the Philippines. And most of the mechanics are just interns. The veteran mechanics are mostly crooked, doesn't use the brand new parts that you bought and sometimes would replace your OK parts with old ones.
That's just what happened to me I got my transmission fluid changed and he broke apparently a screw from the pan and he had to drill it out with I checked when I come home and I seen every screw was a old one how can you trust that shop?
Toyota Aisin oem transmission fluid is made by Idemitsu and for Honda’s it’s Eneos. I usually buy them at NAPA and save money over buying them rebranded at the dealer.
@fpeletz Thats AmsOil for sure. I only use AmsOil. If the client doesn't wanna pay the extra for higher quality then I might be busy that day doing something else. However, actually flushing and refilling the fluid is the main objective .
CORRECTION: Toyota WS-ATF (00289-WSATF) IS MADE BY EXXON/MOBIL. This is according to their material safety documentation. It states clearly that it is made by Exxon/Mobil. I, too, have heard that it was made by Idemitsu. I have looked at the data sheets of both brands, they are not the same! You can buy the Toyota transmission fluid for approximately $7 a quart through their parts.toyota.com website. (Shop around as different dealers charge a different markup.) A small investment for a major component.
Fyi, draining transmission only drains 4 qts of fluid but the transmission holds 16 qts. If they did a drain and refill with 4 qts transmission fluid and the fluid was already dark, thats what it would look like, it would not look red. As far as the transfer case fluid, it is dirty and not clean, it doesnt look like it was changed.
Kevin Goh Exactly! Seems like he doesn’t realize that the trans fluid would look like that if you only change a quarter of it. He needs to comment about that to clear things up.
The color of transmission doesn’t always tell the story on Toyota’s. If you do a drain and fill the fluid may still be a bit dark , but you have renewed the additives . Good for another 50,000 . Don’t use multi vehicle crap fluid .
@@psantini5963 Doesn't matter what brand of vehicle - if you just do a drain and fill, a lot of it stays in the torque converter, oil cooler and lines, and trans case. Look up the total capacity specs and measure how much drains out. If it takes 16qts to fill a completely empty system and you only drain out 4qts, then it's not much of a fluid replacement. 4qts of nice red fluid mixed with the dark, used fluid will look like what we saw in the video. Been there, done it. Can't say that the previous shop didn't do anything to the trans.
Patch Man you are right you only get a fraction of the fluid in a drain and fill , but it could be done multiple times to swap out addition fluid . If a drain and fill is done on a regular interval that is that is needed for most transmissions to have a long happy life .
If you spill n fill regularly the color will be good. 3 or 4 spills and fills, driving a few miles between each, will get you to about 90% clean fluid. Expensive and a PITA but you know it was done, and done right.
Thank you for your work. I bought a 2005 Tacoma a couple years ago and did replace all of the fluids myself, it has over 180000 miles and I expect it to go 180K more. As a former ASE Master Tech I was simply appalled with the work that had been done on this Tundra. The world needs more honest men like you, keep up the good work.
This is exactly why I learn to service my own vehicles as much as I can. I don't trust dealership service departments either because they're dishonest too. If you don't want to do your own service find a trustworthy independent mechanic (like this guy) by asking around and doing research. It's a damn shame, but in my experience most repair shops are dishonest. It really hard to find talented and honest mechanics these days.
Took my 02 tundra in for a oil change today. Got the whole rundown that my air filter was dirty and my rear diff fluid was dirty. I didn’t have them touch it. I have a KN filter I knew it was not dirty. They didn’t even open it to look. I wish I had a mechanic like you near me. Thank you for your honesty!
This happen to me at Walmart. Lucky I caught it before leaving. I complained and they refunded my money. I should have filed a police report but didn't think of it at the time.
@vampire64 - Good you caught it. You (or ANY other customer) should not have to double-check the mechanics work. Sad.... I can't imagine how many other customers may have been duped and never caught it.
What did you expect? It's *Walmart.* Should be LESS than common sense to never take your vehicle to a cheap place like Walmart to work on your car. That's like going to the Salvation Army to dryclean your suit. Seriously?
I have a neighbor who is a Walmart manager. He said that at least at his store the oil change guys have to pump the oil out of the cars because dummies kept over torquing the drain plugs and stripping them out.
@@Backyardmech1 its those fucking impact tools!! hate them! Lug nuts and axle bolts are one thing. But thats why you dont use an impact tool on things like drain plugs. All you have to do it torque it *lightly.* 10-15 foot pounds. If even that! Not use a spinning jackhammer Sorry for the rant. Im an airplane tech. And imoact tools are pretty much forbidden in our world. The only power socket we use is a battery ratchet. Quick and provides muscle but not like an impact tool
Thank God there is Still Honest mechanics like you and others out there I would definitely if I was the owner be going back to the place I had the service done in demanding my money back
I wish you were close because you 100% would be my mechanic for my daughters 2015 Corolla. I do all the maintenance on all of our vehicles but there are certain things I prefer to leave to the pros. You are an honest hard working man of character and integrity and that's exactly how it should be! You are the example of how a mechanic or a repair shop should conduct themselves! Thank you! You are a great blue collar American!
Toyota’s have a drain and fill plug for a reason. Even with a very small amount of old fluid left in the boxes during a drain and fill, is will be very clear if they have been changed or not. I worked at a place much like a jiffy lube way back when and I never did anything like this. I worked the pit and did this job for five bays eight hours a day five days a week. If the fluid in the tcase had condensation before the fluid change and then new fluid added you could possibly get the discoloration in the new fluid. To get it clean the tcase/box would need to be flushed out to get clean fluid. Either the tcase fluid has been neglected on interval change, not being properly vented, water has gotten inside, or maybe a transmission to tcase seal is going bad. Many reasons why that fluid could look the way it did. But yes the drain plug on the tcase was never touched, no excuse on that service shop. Any time my drive train fluid looks like a malt it was because I drove through water past the axles and up to the doors. Thanks for sharing this. Toyota’s never die, they do when there neglected. Original owner of a 84’ Toyota pickup, 375k on and off road miles, maintained religiously by me. Parts from the dealer can be expensive, but if the original Toyota starter for my 84’ lasted for 300k miles, why not go with original and go another 300k. Remanufactured parts!, not in my rig thank you.
Love your work. Deliberate, anaytical. But I have used Maxlife ATF in all Toyotas for many years, totaling hundreds of thousands of miles. Holds up better, full synthetic, shifts perfectly and about $5 per quart when purchased in gallons from Walmart. Or maybe I just got lucky in the Toyotas and dozens of other transmissions I filled with Maxlife. Anyway, love all your videos!
Thank you for being so honest we need more mechanics like yourself and I too many scams going on in the automotive industry. I do all my own repairs after seeing the damage the honda west dealership did to my car in Las Vegas its very easy to fix your own vehicle folks just need a jack jack stand and the proper tools and knowledge and your golden!
Last fall took my wife's minivan into Valvoline quick oil change place. We park in the garage for the winter and let the old one eat the salt. I like to store it with new clean fluid. Any way. The place I went to had cameras all over the place so you can watch them do the service in real-time. They may be recorded for quality control. But I don't know that for sure. Filters and fluids get showed and approved by the manager before they put them in. He was comparing to specifications readout on his computer. The 3.6 Pentastar has two different oil filters depending on the year. Putting the wrong one will fit but cost you a motor. I was happy to see that. So I was happy with that service. With these oil operated cam phasers. I change that oil every 3,000 miles even though they recommend 5,000. Cheap insurance if you ask me.
Thank you for freeing that breather. I sleep easy :) I can tell here my aunt's 4runner always served at a toyota shop, never bothered to free it. it should be part of the oil change service to just twist it around a few times to clear off any junk or quick shot of break clean.
Yeah, I took my truck in for an oil change and tire rotation, before I started doing myself, I marked a tire in the back with chalk, I pick it up, billed $30 for a rotation ,and notice the mark still in he exact spot. I say “hey, you did not rotate my tires ?” They said “yes we did”, I respond, “really ?, I marked this tire prior to bringing my car in, and it’s still in the same spot”. Then “oh, sorry, the guys must have missed it”. They’re all fucking crooks, I do all my own oil changes, diff and Xfer case changes, trans fluid changes, brakes and filter changes, and use all OEM parts, no post market.
Jiffy Lube completely stripped the plug hole on my Jetta 10 years back, get home, a pool of oil on my driveway, they put a rubber plug over the screw, thank god I did not go on a far trip.
I bought a 2000 Subaru Outback from a trustworthy friend about 10yrs ago who told me the oil was just changed at a jiffy lube. When I got around to doing my first oil change on it I noticed the oil drain bolt was extremely tight. I grabbed my torque wrench and started low on the torque setting and worked my way up to see close to what torque they had it at. It finally broke free between the 80 ft lb and 90 ft lb torque setting. Basically that is more torque than the wheel lugs need but on a small drain bolt. Luckily it wasn’t stripped out but still won’t take my cars to those places.
Had a friend at Jiffy Lube they didn't put the oil drain plug back in as he's driving away he notices his temperature going through the roof. They said they'd give him oil changes for life I told him he let them off the hook too easy
First video I’ve seen of yours. Fantastic work! I have a 2010 tundra and after a place told me it would be $30 for a air filter I’m definitely going to do my own repairs whenever I can! Ty very informative 🤗
Good video and reminder. It's often best to do this simple type of work yourself. Otherwise, go to someone who allows you to literally stand there and watch them do it. Also, provide them with the correct fluids/filters for the job. Also, just a point of observation, even with new fluids/oils, if you drive the car for even a short period of time, they will get somewhat dirty looking because there is usually sludge and dirt that that does not completely get removed in a drain and fill operation. I'm not speculating on this work- just saying you should not expect it to be perfect. To verify that work was done, you can also mark all the the bolts and nearby housing with a black felt marker (straight connecting line or even paint like the factory does.) Be sure to snap pics to verify if the bolts have been touched- and as proof to show them. Again, it is easier to just do it yourself in most cases. Also, be sure to verify when getting your tires rotated and balanced in a similar fashion. An easy way is to simply remove the air valve caps off the two rear wheels- take pics (include the car panel as a location reference) and verify after. I just did this and guess what- they did not rotate anything. Also, I highly recommend torquing all bolts to the proper specs especially important if you remove a wheel. When changing fluids, replace washers if applicable.
You’re awesome. Im73 yrs old. In Australia. You help everybody. I have a complete work shop. I built it myself . The shed 2 car hoists. Tire changer wheel balancer. 20 ton press . I started when l was 19 years old. I’m not a mechanic but l love fixing broken cars. I would have loved to be trained by you.
Several years ago I purchased a Certified used 2008 Honda Pilot from a Honda Dealership . I found that they missed alot of steps certifying the vehicle , fluids and filters weren't changed ( other than an oil change ) and the rear diff showed signs of a leak . Long story short , the stealership gave me a rental and recertified my (wife) Pilot . I hope all Dealerships don't work this way .
Nice work! From Someone who has done his own service in the past I trust others to do it when I don’t have the time to do it properly. Thank you for looking into this and exposing these people for what they do and the lies they tell. Excellent! I subscribed!
My transmission man had to let one of his employees go after he later discovered that after a transfer case rebuild the employee stole the expensive manufacturer specific fluid and was going to put generic fluid in it. However, when the boss was coming back the employee stopped putting in the generic fluid to not get caught and just put the fill plug back in and shipped it. Needless to say the transfer case burned up after 15K miles.
In an indirect way.... employee is actually stealing from the company.... and probably pocketing the difference. Stealing from the customer and/or company is surefire reason for job dismissal. - "The true character of a person comes out when no one else is watching".... just sayin'....
@@Mburin_B - Good point. To expand: Automakers outsource the production of their in-house supply of fluids to other companies that are able to produce large quantities of needed proprietary fluids. Pennzoil is one of the largest producers of transmission fluid. With that said, they produce multiple grades of transmission fluids. Some are dyed different colors to differentiate each product. Each product may have unique properties.... such as additives, viscosity.... blah... blah... blah... tailored to meet specific manufacturers specifications (and takes into account it's intended use: Manual, Automatic, CVT... blah... blah... blah...) With all that said.... this is why manufacturer say it is "RECOMMENDED" to use the approved transmission fluid for your specific vehicle. Is there some marketing and/or profit ploy behind all this? Absolutely. Corporations purposely "bake-in" specific conditions into their transmissions and warranties for fun and profit. Yes.... you can use a generic brand but the consumer also risks violating manufacturers warranty. (Some people avoid dealer visits completely and it may not matter to them) Yes.... It may or may not affect longevity... but that's up to the owner to decide.... factoring things like the frequency of transmission fluid changes and driving style. - My purpose is not to demean anyone. The intent is full disclosure. (Some of us are "gear-heads".... some of us are "appliance-users".... and the rest of us are somewhere "in-between") What ever the owner ultimately feels comfortable with (in regards to his/her own vehicle) is solely up to them. Just be aware of the "pro" and "cons". Peace out and stay safe.
I have never seen gear lube oil like that it looked like peanut butter color or butterscotch. Unbelievable,,,,, you are spot on guy your one of the few honest mechanics and knows what your doing great job. Unfortunately your customer will need to go back to that prior shop and get his $400 returned. Great video
(20 years of experience as mechanic in Automotive and Agriculture) To be fair, all manufacturers put that in the manuals about "...will cause damage if brand is not used..." It is a bunch of nonsense 99% of the time.
Your vid came back up tonight. Don’t know why but watched again. Super job sir! I do my own fluid changes except for the transmission on my 2013 Tacoma Double cab. The trans is sealed and I do not have a means to properly service it. My dealer did it and I have to trust them here. Requested a sample of the old fluid and they supplied it. Don’t know how but I got some. (For future use) Oil, diff, power steering, brake fluid - everything else I service. I also do my own brakes when needed. Clean TB too. Change filters, clean battery. Whatever is needed - I do. You sir perform a necessary service and should be compensated accordingly. My son in law is a master tech at Nissan and his work is fast and done per Nissan specs. No shortcuts from him. If he has to do a job, it gets done.
We need more mechanics like you! This, and the fact that I enjoy working on my own vehicles, is why I do all of my own maintenance and repairs. Keep up the great work and thank you for having your channel!
Learned my lesson by replacing factory fluids with valvoline maxlife, which was stated as compatible with my transmission. Transmission almost immediately after swap started a shudder. Swapped back to new factory fluids and the shudder went away. Will always run the fluids recommended by the engineers that designed the actual product, not aftermarket compatibles
The transmission holds 16 or so quarts but only 3 or so can actually be drained. The only way to do a total change out is to flush it out. In other words you have to disconnect the lines and fill with new as the old is flushed out.
Tacoma oil change at 10-minute place...they left off most of the skidplate bolts! I returned to ask for them. He had a whole pile of bolts there at his workstation. WTF. That's when I started DIY.
The only had one of those jiffy lube places change my oil one time. The next time I tried to change my own oil next service period I could absolutely not get the drain bolt off. This was back in 1988 on my Toyota pickup. I used the proper 14mm socket and the bolt was rounded and still didn't budge. I ended up resorting to a PIPE WRENCH and it got the bolt off, you can imagine how that bolt looked. I never been to an oil change place since.
A mechanic charged me $210 dollars to replace a valve cover gasket on a 2001 Toyota Corolla 4 years ago, I've been DIY Since. Have saved sooooooo much $$$$$
Most mechanic shops used recycled oils and recycled radiator fluid instead of new fluids and oils which they are charging you for. They are all greedy crooks and the work they do sucks......
Mechanic shops I've worked at we use a machine that you put a tube through dipstick and fill from there ,that plug is a pain in ass to get too so they go through dipstick for transmission.and also we have vacuums to suck out the rear diff fluid and then dumping in new fluid
Wow !!! I have my suspicions that maybe where I take my truck they do not always put full synthetic like I ask. But they sure do charge me for it. I think I will start doing my own oil from now on.
Just had my transmission, transfer cases and differentials fluids replaced at the Toyota dealership and now my passenger side rear seal is leaking and noticed the breather valve is totally tight. Is there a breather valve on the front as well? Should I demand The dealership replace the seal? Also the oil all over my rear brake caliper and pads. Uggg!
Usually if the caliper and pads are covered in oil, it isn't oil and is actually brake fluid from a leaking brake wheel cylinder. That cylinder should be replaced as well as the brake pads. Once the pads are soaked in the brake fluid, they will swell and deteriorate.
So you did a drain and refill on the ATF. It will still mix with old fluid from the torque converter. So, the new plus old will still be dirty. A couple of drain and refills will dilute the old to a point to where the fluid looks clean again. Or if it can be flushed out, it would be one step instead
If you watch his other videos, he'll drain fill cycle fluid, drain then refill and repeat procedure at least 3 times to eject old fluid.. i.e. a correct flush..
Please show a video on how to properly change 2007-Present Tundra automatic transmission fluid with correct temperature for transmission fluid fill Thanks
If you search TundraTalk forum you will see how to check the temp via a procedure. That is how I did it on my 07' Tundra. Also you can get an OB2 bluetooth reader and get one of apps that will allow you to read the trans temp.
The thought that only manufacturer fluid must be used is a little close minded or perhaps just overly cautious in my opinion. Yes the manual does specify, BUT that's there for 3 reasons: to have an established performance standard for the vehicle, to make more money by selling you their fluid, and be able to deny responsibility if the owner puts fluid in that doesn't meet standards. Obviously not all fluids are created equally, so due diligence is important. Again the decision for OEM only is not wrong, it's just that there are other options that don't sacrifice performance.
yep, Toyota is not an oil company, their transmissions have no special magic components. They are used and abused and "serviced" in all kinds of conditions worldwide. Saying they just have to have Toyota oil is farcical. My Toyota light truck has half a million kms and has never had any Toyota oil products apart from what it was delivered with. Its just a high margin , add on business for Toyota and shops that play the game.
Just looked up chevron synthetic multi vehicle and it does meet Toyota WS standard! I'm pretty sure they didn't change it but you don't have to use the factory fluids on Toyotas!! All the manufacturers have their fluid made by the oil companies!
That may be but when Toyota tells you to use a different fluid in a newer Toyota than you would use in an older Toyota and that the two are not compatible... What does that tell you about a multi-vehicle fluid that says it's good for both new and older Toyotas? I don't think so.
@@stevensevek6151 that depends alot of the newer fluids are backwards compatible specially is hondas aka you can use the newer fluid in older cars but not vice versa. that is how alot of the multi vehicle fluids work.
Thanks for showing how easy it is to get cheated on routine car maintenance. So glad I resisted the temptation to take my car to a brand x auto repair shop to change my coolant, brake and diff fluids.
Took Tundra in for it's 6th oil change. First 5 oil changes paid for and by and done by the dealership. 6th done by dealership. Drove home to find a dead battery. Not the one I drove to dealership with and loose lug nut on left front tire after a tire rotation. LOL!
I fill those transmission through the level hole with a fluid pump. Thats probably what they did. If the only did a service and not a flush then you only get a drain and fill which is why the fluid will still be dirty. The transfer case though was definitely not touched
You sir are an Honest and Honorable man, thank you for bringing out these things. I really think these businesses that are cheating the customers need to be exposed immediately by the owners of the automobiles. What they did to this Toyota Tundra and using the incorrect transmission fluid could ruin the vehicle. I hope the owner takes that business to court and gets paid enough to purchase another Tundra
TwinForce_Fusion if you have a newer Toyota 4x4, you must use OEM fluids. There are no aftermarket oil companies with approved fluids for these applications.
Amsoil or Redline for me. Indemitsu has a CVT FE fluid out now. i use Redline D6, easier to get, in my 09 prius and on a 16 corolla CVT and not a problem.
Your a honest person. Good job. I been a mechanic for 35 years now and to me, honesty is the best policy. I Never hade one complain on me from my service. Do it wright or don't do it at all.
You need more of an understanding of fluid recommendations. The 'WS' just refers to world standard. It is a specification that the transmission requires. Sure you can by the ATF from Toyota. But there is nothing wrong using a multi-fluid ATF that is suitable for use that meets the requirements of Toyota WS. That spec is old and if the truck is out of manufacturers powertrain warranty, the Chevron product will be fine. The only difference is Chevron probably hasn't paid the license fees to Toyota to say it is approved. So suitable for use is acceptable. Also, was all of the fluid serviced? Was a machine hooked up to the cooler lines to evacuate all the fluid in the transmission? Is there a filter element to be serviced? More information is needed here.
I bought fluid from Toyota directly and it’s best to give your VIN as some take WS and others like mine take W2 I believe. Even Toyota Factory used 2 types of fluid. For the price difference it’s worth peace of mind getting Original transmission fluid. OMHO
It's sad that some shops are dishonest. Put fresh fluids in drive it a short while and drain and refill them all again to completely get the bad contaminates out.
On the Big Isle of Hawaii One family owns Toyota and Chevy. Well he had bought a new chevy truck.With purchase They get free oil changes for 3 intervals. He drove it home from the Toyota dealer and the next day he went to work,well the oil light comes on. Long story short No oil was put back in the engine. So don't trust even the dealer ship to do thier Job. CHECK ALL WORK DONE ON YOUR VEHICLE WITH THE MECHANIC.. YOU PAYED GOOD MONEY FOR YOUR VEHICLE.
Wow, disappointing for the owner! Hope he used a credit card with the scammers, so he has some recourse if a discussion doesn't work! It sure helps, and no business likes to go through that with its merchant card provider! (Tough! Do better!) ಠಿ_ಠ
Have to disagree with only Toyota transmission fluid. I worked on cars for more then 10 years and own 2 Toyotas (older tundra and Sienna limited) tale stories that your transmission will blow up like this guy says is BS. Did two fluid swaps on my cars with aftermarket dextron ws and guess what guy both cars run great. Toyota charging you 3 times more for their fluid. Other then that good video. My aftermarket trans fluid will perform just as fine as Toyota if not better.
Toyotas ATF fluid (WS) is NOT a synthetic fluid. Look at the bottle and nowhere does it say it's synthetic. What I'm saying is Toyota ATF fluid is not worth the $10 a quart price they sell it for. Also Toyota ATF fluid is made by a major oil company (not sure which company) to Toyotas specifications for Toyota @@jonasthemovie
It still shouldn't come out dark like that. They just drained what was in the pan. The torque converter and radiator is still full of contaminated fluid. I changed my transmission fluid 4 times on my Nissan Quest to flush the contaminates out and be sure the fluid is mostly changed. I do not have anyway to flush a transmission and the home made methods being used scares me. The transfer case was never touched. Damn crooks!
So sad. I work at a Toyota dealership here in Texas. And if we do shady stuff we will loose our job automatically. We use all oem fluids besides gear oil, we use mobile 1 gear oil other than that all oem fluids and parts.
My 2000 Tundra is showing the Center Drive Shaft Elastomeric Bearing as needing replacement at 175K... It seems you could use a soda straw to get small samples through the filler plug openings...
Yes but when you’re redoing the transmission fluid if it’s not flushed or dropped and remove the torque converter it was still have old fluid in it or wrong fluid in this case
Find a Good Mechanic, Stick with Him, Give The Man A Tip , Start with a Twenty or a Fifty. Develop a Relationship with the Owner of a Smaller Independent Shop. Buy Him a Bottle of what he likes for Christmas, Tickets to a Game or a Great Steak Dinner. Find Out what his Hot Button Is. Hand Deliver It. He Will Take Care Of You.! If he Does any Racing even Better. ... Thank You Ralph, In Buffalo. Your a Good Italian and you know your Stuff.
@@g00glechr0me8 You shouldn't have to pay for someone to walk a plate 50 ft from the kitchen to your table either, but if you don't you get extra "special" seasoning
You are a careful honest mechanic who takes pride in his work and follows the rules and provide excellent service. Here in the UK we have some garages who run their business like the Mafia, corrupt and tricks is how they rip people off.
Toyota's are the best! I have a Prius and a Corolla and both have over 200K miles and run like new! I use Automotive Wolf car care software on my vehicles to monitor the maintenance schedules and have it set up to send me text message reminders when any service is due, so I'm always up-to-date on all the maintenance. Makes a BIG difference. :)
I wish ALL mechanics had your values! You use only approved fluids and you know what to look for during an inspection. I really love your videos because I learn so much. You are a true professional!!! Cheers to you!!!!
This is exactly why I do my own maintenance.
@wagner1va there are literaly 70+ dishonest shops (SHOPS full of mechanics) for every 1 honest mechanic (single mechanic) in this world.
Yes, but newer cars are horrible to work on, miss my 1997 Honda Civic
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El Compa Ish there are so e honest people out there
@@davecrupel2817 theres literally 1 honest poor mechanic for every 500 cheap customers
I own an automotive repair shop in Los Angeles, we are a small mom and pop shop, and have a full five stars on yelp and Google. It frustrates me to see videos like this. Not all repair shops are like this, but unfortunately many are. Whether intentional or not, it makes me really proud of our work. I’m always on top of my mechanic, just like when he was doing this exact job on a 2013 Escalade this past Monday morning. A customer requested differential fluid exchange, and with it being AWD, We did the front diff, rear diff, and although he did not ask for it, did the transfer case fluid exchange. He is a long time customer and probably did not realize that he needed it as he is not too mechanically savvy. I mentioned it to him when he picked up the car, and I showed him the fluids from both differentials and transfer case, explaining why the transfer case fluid (which calls for ATF) appeared like gear oil. I explained Dexron-VI is atf however is a clear fluid, opening a new bottle in front of him to show him. He told us ‘this is why I come to you, you just know what’s best and I know you’re always ready to show me what you did.’ It’s a shame this guy got screwed. Mechanics are rarely thorough and honest. Glad we still run our shop the right way.
Expose the shop that did this and you could save many potential victims.
I believe he said it was a local company named Oil Stop.
@@drenico1 OILSTOPINC.com - out west in CA, AZ, OR - sounds like a butcher shop to me
I'm not sure about the fluid, but if the torque converter has old fluid in it, once it mixed with the new, the fluid will not look shiny and new like out of the bottle.
From my experience with chi I have over 15 years of if, the fluid brand doesn’t matter as long as it meats the specks. From the looks of that fluid is from not being change on a scheduled maintenance.
@@robertrodriguez8167 Correct! But there is no excuse for the Oil that obviously had water in it.
I love to see how honest you are. We need more like you
Where is your shop located? I need a mechanic I can trust for my trucks!,
@@edwindacayo3170 Arcata, Ca.
4Runner4life98 i want to work for this guy im tired of working for shitty shops that would probably do this to customers anyone who knows anything about the automotive industry they know all data tells you the exact gear oil or trans fluid you’re supposed to use and how much typically goes in i know its not always accurate but still works most the time and random thing i think gear oil smells the worst I rather get covered in diesel oil which stings when it gets on your skin
this video is fake and is made only with the purpose of obtaining views. you can say viewers have no way to check the claims been made in the video. the incentive of making false statements is high and pays off in therms of popularity increasing the subscribers base
@@safewaycart lol, and what makes your claim true? seems like fake accusations with unclear incentive...
not surprising. That is why people feel like they can't trust repair shops
I dont know who i can and can't trust.
So what do i do?
Not trust any and all of them at all.
@@davecrupel2817 - You have a chance if a mechanic is recommended by others ✔
@@davecrupel2817 Even the good ones have to make a quota. They can't spend all day babying your old junker. They got bills to pay. I try to do the work myself, but not everybody can do it.
@@jerryp2433 who said anything about spending all day TLCing my old junker car?
Have you not been paying f#cking attention?
I just need someone that's not going to try to wring me of every penny I have.
@@davecrupel2817 ok calm down old man. It wasn't even that offensive.
It shows there are dishonest oil change businesses and dishonest mechanics. This was a great video revealing what can happen to an unsuspecting customer. Glad you inspected the vehicle and corrected the problem. Thanks for an honest inspection.
I agree.
There a a couple ways of looking at this outcome.
The first would be there is a inexperienced individual that gets paid less than a McDonald's employee doing a service to your vehicle. They may or may not be there just for a paycheck and not just ownership and pride of their work.
The other school of thought is it is cheaper for a shop to cut corners and do the the bare minimum just to turn a marginal profit. They took the low road in the hopes of having a repeat costumer.
Peter is the exception to the rule. He believes that if you only have time to do the job right do it right the first time. Because where are you going to find time to do it again. His quality of work and service after the fact is bar none exceptional. As his service videos shows.
I just hope that people take away the knowledge that there are two ways of doing things. The right way and the wrong way.
"The first would be there is a inexperienced individual that gets paid less than a McDonald's employee doing a service to your vehicle."
A few months ago I was with a friend at Walmart for tire mounting.
The Walmart auto tech manager was explaining to another auto employee that the manager had to routinely add brake fluid to his car's master cylinder *because everyone knows brake fluid evaporates over time* this was his own car, imagine what he tell customers!
I would not have believed this if I wasn't standing there listening to the conversation, too wrong and unbelievable.
Had dodge dealership change my fluids. Oil filter leaked. They didn’t remove old oring from previous filter. Didn’t put in enough oil. Needless to say. I do my own service now.
Only problem with doing your own service is that it will void many factory warranties. I don't buy new vehicles myself, so I do not have to worry about any warranties, so I do all my own services too.
I had some cocksucker mechanic cross-thread and apparently IMPACT wrench my oil plug and completely stripped the pan out. You can't even trust them to do basic stuff, most of them are high school flunkies.
if you keep records of ALL parts and fluids your warranty should remain intact
Sue under DTPA. IF it happened within the last 2 years.
@Fergus Redpath I ran across a stripped drain plug on a pick-up truck when I was a mechanic. Was so bad, we couldn't even get the drain plug even out after removing the drain pan. We ended up replacing the drain pan. It was last serviced at a lube center, not sure which one.
This is why I teach people how to change the engine oil and transmission fluid on my channel. I was scammed by Jiffy Lube and Lube Center before.
I had a friend that took her car to Iffy Lube and they forgot to put in new oil when they drained it. Her car's engine was destroyed. She took Iffy lube to small claims court and won her case.
@@thedetective8150 un-fucking-believable. In such a competative world idk how these places can even get away with this shit. I've had my own nightmare experiences with scumbag auto chains and started doing all my own maintenance myself ever since (about 15 years now)
@@firebladex8586 I hear ya bro. I do most of my vehicle maintenance and took a basic auto repair course at my local Junior College. I am fortunate that I know two honest mechanics that are auto shop business owners. They do well because they are honest business men and operate their auto repair businesses with integrity. There should be more enforcement on auto repair scammers because they are worse than thieves.
For the transmission oil, if you haven't changed the oil in a long time and just add in 3 quarts (which is recommended), there is no way the fluid will look new. It will get diluted with the old. The only way is to flush out all the old oil (not recommended) and add in roughly up to 13 quarts. On the other hand, if you flush your fluid on a regular basis and then add in new oil, overtime the color show look much cleaner (assuming you have no internal gear issues). This is why they have schedule maintenance.
Absolutely ridiculous and such a fraudulent shop!
As a retired military helicopter mechanic and flight crew on the UH 60 Black Hawk, I performed all kinds of services and repairs, including fluid level checks, oil sampling for testing at the oil lab, drain and flushing of the gear boxes, transmission, other modules and engines, including inspection of components, replacement of o-rings and filters. I took great pride in my work, whether I was going to fly in it or not, as lives of the crew and passengers were at stake.
My wife had her brakes on our handicap van done at a Goodyear shop down the hill. She went to take off and the pedal hit the floor. Drum brakes not disk. She used the emergency brake and called me. I came right down and chewed the manager out. I watched while they adjusted the brakes and bled them.
I should have called the Auto Club so they would have been witnesses. Hindsight always has better answers.
That's how a good mechanic should think and operate....it to bad there are so many hacks
@@bff1316 Yes! Always wise after the event. Had a Dealership obviously put the wrong oil in a Manual Transmission. No Oil leaks. Never leaked after. Not a drop.
Would not stay in overdrive one night on a trip.
Had to do about 100km in 4th Gear to get home. Next morning checked. Hardly any oil in the Transmission. Changed it and like a fool did not keep the Oil with a good Witness.
Forever after had a whine in overdrive. Never lost a drop of Oil again.
Whoever they obviously put Oil in that could not tolerate the heat. It just vaporized off.
No witness, no Oil. I was an idiot.
Retired 58D guy here. Maintainers never let me down my entire career. In a single engine aircraft there’s little room for fudging. Thank you keeping our aircraft up and running!!!
Get to the Choppa!
I work on my vehicles most of the time. But when I had my 2013 Toyota Tacoma TRD Sport 4WD Transmission service at the Toyota Dealership, I made it a point to the service desk that I will be right there while the tech performed my transmission service. The Toyota Dealership agreed with me and I was right there with him when he done the service. Also the same for my Wife SUV. Thank You for great videos and we need more honest Mechanics like yourself.
BOSS
Most dealerships in the US won’t let you inside the garage,insurance policy
@@fastfeets2695 you are so correct.
@@fastfeets2695 Same here in the Philippines. And most of the mechanics are just interns. The veteran mechanics are mostly crooked, doesn't use the brand new parts that you bought and sometimes would replace your OK parts with old ones.
@@fastfeets2695 "insurance policy"
Oh, what a conevient excuse.
If they dont let you near or around the work being done, go find someplace that does.
That's just what happened to me I got my transmission fluid changed and he broke apparently a screw from the pan and he had to drill it out with I checked when I come home and I seen every screw was a old one how can you trust that shop?
Toyota Aisin oem transmission fluid is made by Idemitsu and for Honda’s it’s Eneos. I usually buy them at NAPA and save money over buying them rebranded at the dealer.
Exactly because we know damn well Toyota and Honda do not engineer their own oils.
Right
@fpeletz Thats AmsOil for sure. I only use AmsOil. If the client doesn't wanna pay the extra for higher quality then I might be busy that day doing something else. However, actually flushing and refilling the fluid is the main objective .
CORRECTION: Toyota WS-ATF (00289-WSATF) IS MADE BY EXXON/MOBIL. This is according to their material safety documentation. It states clearly that it is made by Exxon/Mobil. I, too, have heard that it was made by Idemitsu. I have looked at the data sheets of both brands, they are not the same! You can buy the Toyota transmission fluid for approximately $7 a quart through their parts.toyota.com website. (Shop around as different dealers charge a different markup.) A small investment for a major component.
Fyi, draining transmission only drains 4 qts of fluid but the transmission holds 16 qts. If they did a drain and refill with 4 qts transmission fluid and the fluid was already dark, thats what it would look like, it would not look red.
As far as the transfer case fluid, it is dirty and not clean, it doesnt look like it was changed.
Kevin Goh Exactly! Seems like he doesn’t realize that the trans fluid would look like that if you only change a quarter of it. He needs to comment about that to clear things up.
The color of transmission doesn’t always tell the story on Toyota’s. If you do a drain and fill the fluid may still be a bit dark , but you have renewed the additives . Good for another 50,000 . Don’t use multi vehicle crap fluid .
@@psantini5963 Doesn't matter what brand of vehicle - if you just do a drain and fill, a lot of it stays in the torque converter, oil cooler and lines, and trans case. Look up the total capacity specs and measure how much drains out. If it takes 16qts to fill a completely empty system and you only drain out 4qts, then it's not much of a fluid replacement. 4qts of nice red fluid mixed with the dark, used fluid will look like what we saw in the video. Been there, done it. Can't say that the previous shop didn't do anything to the trans.
Patch Man you are right you only get a fraction of the fluid in a drain and fill , but it could be done multiple times to swap out addition fluid . If a drain and fill is done on a regular interval that is that is needed for most transmissions to have a long happy life .
If you spill n fill regularly the color will be good. 3 or 4 spills and fills, driving a few miles between each, will get you to about 90% clean fluid. Expensive and a PITA but you know it was done, and done right.
That is why 100%, I do my own work and I keep my clients there to show them in their face what they get for what they pay
But most of these trashy places do not want you around. And you can not see what are they doing or not doing to your car "Stealership"
I want this guy to work on my car. Someone who takes pride in doing it properly.
Looks like Dijon mustard came out of that transfer case!
Grey Poupon is used in Rolls Royce and Bentley transfer cases.
Dijon is for mayonnaise usually ?
Looks like caramel😮
I've never seen condensation do that to any oil even in vehicles that have gone without maintenance that looks like deep water driving and it got in.
Thank you for your work. I bought a 2005 Tacoma a couple years ago and did replace all of the fluids myself, it has over 180000 miles and I expect it to go 180K more. As a former ASE Master Tech I was simply appalled with the work that had been done on this Tundra. The world needs more honest men like you, keep up the good work.
I see your torqued your bolts to german specs.
"Goodantight"
That in the. RAF was what we called " FT", the second word is tight!!
Most drain bolts are what I call "one grunt tight."
We don’t measure in torque, but in elbow pops. Usually one or two pops is tight enough.
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@@ThatOneGuy-hp2pb that is foken funny. Never heard that. Will be using at work tomorrow
This is exactly why I learn to service my own vehicles as much as I can. I don't trust dealership service departments either because they're dishonest too. If you don't want to do your own service find a trustworthy independent mechanic (like this guy) by asking around and doing research. It's a damn shame, but in my experience most repair shops are dishonest. It really hard to find talented and honest mechanics these days.
Amen
Took my 02 tundra in for a oil change today. Got the whole rundown that my air filter was dirty and my rear diff fluid was dirty. I didn’t have them touch it. I have a KN filter I knew it was not dirty. They didn’t even open it to look. I wish I had a mechanic like you near me. Thank you for your honesty!
Lotts of ripoff artists ou there. I learned to do all repairs myself much thanks to you sir and others. Have to get me some sour kraut. Stay safe
This happen to me at Walmart. Lucky I caught it before leaving. I complained and they refunded my money. I should have filed a police report but didn't think of it at the time.
@vampire64 - Good you caught it. You (or ANY other customer) should not have to double-check the mechanics work. Sad.... I can't imagine how many other customers may have been duped and never caught it.
should hire the lawyer.
What did you expect?
It's *Walmart.*
Should be LESS than common sense to never take your vehicle to a cheap place like Walmart to work on your car.
That's like going to the Salvation Army to dryclean your suit.
Seriously?
I have a neighbor who is a Walmart manager. He said that at least at his store the oil change guys have to pump the oil out of the cars because dummies kept over torquing the drain plugs and stripping them out.
@@Backyardmech1 its those fucking impact tools!! hate them!
Lug nuts and axle bolts are one thing.
But thats why you dont use an impact tool on things like drain plugs.
All you have to do it torque it *lightly.*
10-15 foot pounds. If even that!
Not use a spinning jackhammer
Sorry for the rant. Im an airplane tech. And imoact tools are pretty much forbidden in our world. The only power socket we use is a battery ratchet. Quick and provides muscle but not like an impact tool
Thank God there is Still Honest mechanics like you and others out there I would definitely if I was the owner be going back to the place I had the service done in demanding my money back
I wish you were close because you 100% would be my mechanic for my daughters 2015 Corolla. I do all the maintenance on all of our vehicles but there are certain things I prefer to leave to the pros. You are an honest hard working man of character and integrity and that's exactly how it should be! You are the example of how a mechanic or a repair shop should conduct themselves! Thank you! You are a great blue collar American!
German American that is😉
15:00 You can add / fill the transmission through the "LeveL" plug, without using the side fill plug.
I believe that on this vehicle there is no dipstick tube.
Toyota’s have a drain and fill plug for a reason. Even with a very small amount of old fluid left in the boxes during a drain and fill, is will be very clear if they have been changed or not. I worked at a place much like a jiffy lube way back when and I never did anything like this. I worked the pit and did this job for five bays eight hours a day five days a week. If the fluid in the tcase had condensation before the fluid change and then new fluid added you could possibly get the discoloration in the new fluid. To get it clean the tcase/box would need to be flushed out to get clean fluid. Either the tcase fluid has been neglected on interval change, not being properly vented, water has gotten inside, or maybe a transmission to tcase seal is going bad. Many reasons why that fluid could look the way it did. But yes the drain plug on the tcase was never touched, no excuse on that service shop. Any time my drive train fluid looks like a malt it was because I drove through water past the axles and up to the doors. Thanks for sharing this.
Toyota’s never die, they do when there neglected. Original owner of a 84’ Toyota pickup, 375k on and off road miles, maintained religiously by me. Parts from the dealer can be expensive, but if the original Toyota starter for my 84’ lasted for 300k miles, why not go with original and go another 300k. Remanufactured parts!, not in my rig thank you.
Love your work. Deliberate, anaytical. But I have used Maxlife ATF in all Toyotas for many years, totaling hundreds of thousands of miles. Holds up better, full synthetic, shifts perfectly and about $5 per quart when purchased in gallons from Walmart. Or maybe I just got lucky in the Toyotas and dozens of other transmissions I filled with Maxlife. Anyway, love all your videos!
Those scum bags deserved to b sued for every penny they got and put in jail for doing that
Thank you for being so honest we need more mechanics like yourself and I too many scams going on in the automotive industry. I do all my own repairs after seeing the damage the honda west dealership did to my car in Las Vegas its very easy to fix your own vehicle folks just need a jack jack stand and the proper tools and knowledge and your golden!
Last fall took my wife's minivan into Valvoline quick oil change place. We park in the garage for the winter and let the old one eat the salt.
I like to store it with new clean fluid. Any way.
The place I went to had cameras all over the place so you can watch them do the service in real-time.
They may be recorded for quality control. But I don't know that for sure.
Filters and fluids get showed and approved by the manager before they put them in.
He was comparing to specifications readout on his computer.
The 3.6 Pentastar has two different oil filters depending on the year. Putting the wrong one will fit but cost you a motor.
I was happy to see that. So I was happy with that service.
With these oil operated cam phasers. I change that oil every 3,000 miles even though they recommend 5,000.
Cheap insurance if you ask me.
Thank you for freeing that breather. I sleep easy :) I can tell here my aunt's 4runner always served at a toyota shop, never bothered to free it. it should be part of the oil change service to just twist it around a few times to clear off any junk or quick shot of break clean.
I just found my new favorite channel, been watching 10 videos straight, Thank you, and great job!
That's why I do my own repairs on my Toyota Tacoma!
Yeah, I took my truck in for an oil change and tire rotation, before I started doing myself, I marked a tire in the back with chalk, I pick it up, billed $30 for a rotation ,and notice the mark still in he exact spot. I say “hey, you did not rotate my tires ?” They said “yes we did”, I respond, “really ?, I marked this tire prior to bringing my car in, and it’s still in the same spot”. Then “oh, sorry, the guys must have missed it”. They’re all fucking crooks, I do all my own oil changes, diff and Xfer case changes, trans fluid changes, brakes and filter changes, and use all OEM parts, no post market.
The only tier shop I goto is American tire co.... they torque the lug nuts.....
Everything else I do myself except transmissions...
This happened to me at a Toyota dealership I did the same thing
Jiffy Lube completely stripped the plug hole on my Jetta 10 years back, get home, a pool of oil on my driveway, they put a rubber plug over the screw, thank god I did not go on a far trip.
I bought a 2000 Subaru Outback from a trustworthy friend about 10yrs ago who told me the oil was just changed at a jiffy lube. When I got around to doing my first oil change on it I noticed the oil drain bolt was extremely tight. I grabbed my torque wrench and started low on the torque setting and worked my way up to see close to what torque they had it at. It finally broke free between the 80 ft lb and 90 ft lb torque setting. Basically that is more torque than the wheel lugs need but on a small drain bolt. Luckily it wasn’t stripped out but still won’t take my cars to those places.
Had a friend at Jiffy Lube they didn't put the oil drain plug back in as he's driving away he notices his temperature going through the roof. They said they'd give him oil changes for life I told him he let them off the hook too easy
@@ians1464
Yup, that engine is ruined.
First video I’ve seen of yours. Fantastic work! I have a 2010 tundra and after a place told me it would be $30 for a air filter I’m definitely going to do my own repairs whenever I can! Ty very informative 🤗
Even what Toyota callled "factory trained mechanics" they still mess up. That's why I always double-check their work.
If I have to double check someone else's work, I may as well do it myself.
Trained to scam and get paid.
Never had a problem with Toyota dealer service center. They only work on Toyotas and know what they are doing. Toyotas last forever
Good video and reminder. It's often best to do this simple type of work yourself. Otherwise, go to someone who allows you to literally stand there and watch them do it. Also, provide them with the correct fluids/filters for the job. Also, just a point of observation, even with new fluids/oils, if you drive the car for even a short period of time, they will get somewhat dirty looking because there is usually sludge and dirt that that does not completely get removed in a drain and fill operation. I'm not speculating on this work- just saying you should not expect it to be perfect.
To verify that work was done, you can also mark all the the bolts and nearby housing with a black felt marker (straight connecting line or even paint like the factory does.) Be sure to snap pics to verify if the bolts have been touched- and as proof to show them. Again, it is easier to just do it yourself in most cases. Also, be sure to verify when getting your tires rotated and balanced in a similar fashion. An easy way is to simply remove the air valve caps off the two rear wheels- take pics (include the car panel as a location reference) and verify after. I just did this and guess what- they did not rotate anything. Also, I highly recommend torquing all bolts to the proper specs especially important if you remove a wheel. When changing fluids, replace washers if applicable.
Can’t imagine what scambags are doing to feed their family.
Allan Riley if you don’t provide the service you sold you are a thief.
Criminals often don't have families.
The sad thing to is that management tells them to do it too just to line their pockets.
@@LeaderofStupid that's the dumbest shit I've ever heard. The majority of the worlds population has a family.
You’re awesome. Im73 yrs old. In Australia. You help everybody. I have a complete work shop. I built it myself . The shed 2 car hoists. Tire changer wheel balancer. 20 ton press . I started when l was 19 years old. I’m not a mechanic but l love fixing broken cars. I would have loved to be trained by you.
Sir, you ARE a mechanic. Don’t let anybody tell you different.
Several years ago I purchased a Certified used 2008 Honda Pilot from a Honda Dealership . I found that they missed alot of steps certifying the vehicle , fluids and filters weren't changed ( other than an oil change ) and the rear diff showed signs of a leak .
Long story short , the stealership gave me a rental and recertified my (wife) Pilot .
I hope all Dealerships don't work this way .
You actually believed they check all that stuff???.....hey, I got a bridge for sale.....
Dude they only actually fix what ppl come back to complain about
Nice work! From Someone who has done his own service in the past I trust others to do it when I don’t have the time to do it properly. Thank you for looking into this and exposing these people for what they do and the lies they tell. Excellent! I subscribed!
My transmission man had to let one of his employees go after he later discovered that after a transfer case rebuild the employee stole the expensive manufacturer specific fluid and was going to put generic fluid in it. However, when the boss was coming back the employee stopped putting in the generic fluid to not get caught and just put the fill plug back in and shipped it. Needless to say the transfer case burned up after 15K miles.
In an indirect way.... employee is actually stealing from the company.... and probably pocketing the difference. Stealing from the customer and/or company is surefire reason for job dismissal. - "The true character of a person comes out when no one else is watching".... just sayin'....
Just let go? Criminal charges should be brought against him.
No manufacturer in the world makes their own fluid they buy and have their name put on it do a little research
@@Mburin_B - Good point. To expand: Automakers outsource the production of their in-house supply of fluids to other companies that are able to produce large quantities of needed proprietary fluids. Pennzoil is one of the largest producers of transmission fluid. With that said, they produce multiple grades of transmission fluids. Some are dyed different colors to differentiate each product. Each product may have unique properties.... such as additives, viscosity.... blah... blah... blah... tailored to meet specific manufacturers specifications (and takes into account it's intended use: Manual, Automatic, CVT... blah... blah... blah...) With all that said.... this is why manufacturer say it is "RECOMMENDED" to use the approved transmission fluid for your specific vehicle. Is there some marketing and/or profit ploy behind all this? Absolutely. Corporations purposely "bake-in" specific conditions into their transmissions and warranties for fun and profit. Yes.... you can use a generic brand but the consumer also risks violating manufacturers warranty. (Some people avoid dealer visits completely and it may not matter to them) Yes.... It may or may not affect longevity... but that's up to the owner to decide.... factoring things like the frequency of transmission fluid changes and driving style.
- My purpose is not to demean anyone. The intent is full disclosure. (Some of us are "gear-heads".... some of us are "appliance-users".... and the rest of us are somewhere "in-between") What ever the owner ultimately feels comfortable with (in regards to his/her own vehicle) is solely up to them. Just be aware of the "pro" and "cons". Peace out and stay safe.
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No, Toyota and Honda at least
do make their own.
I have never seen gear lube oil like that it looked like peanut butter color or butterscotch. Unbelievable,,,,, you are spot on guy your one of the few honest mechanics and knows what your doing great job. Unfortunately your customer will need to go back to that prior shop and get his $400 returned. Great video
(20 years of experience as mechanic in Automotive and Agriculture)
To be fair, all manufacturers put that in the manuals about "...will cause damage if brand is not used..." It is a bunch of nonsense 99% of the time.
Your vid came back up tonight. Don’t know why but watched again. Super job sir!
I do my own fluid changes except for the transmission on my 2013 Tacoma Double cab. The trans is sealed and I do not have a means to properly service it.
My dealer did it and I have to trust them here. Requested a sample of the old fluid and they supplied it. Don’t know how but I got some. (For future use)
Oil, diff, power steering, brake fluid - everything else I service.
I also do my own brakes when needed.
Clean TB too. Change filters, clean battery. Whatever is needed - I do.
You sir perform a necessary service and should be compensated accordingly.
My son in law is a master tech at Nissan and his work is fast and done per Nissan specs.
No shortcuts from him. If he has to do a job, it gets done.
We need more mechanics like you! This, and the fact that I enjoy working on my own vehicles, is why I do all of my own maintenance and repairs. Keep up the great work and thank you for having your channel!
I hope the owner takes this dishonest shop to court and sues them into the poorhouse...
When I get my Honda Civic serviced, I hang around when fluids are being changed.
Learned my lesson by replacing factory fluids with valvoline maxlife, which was stated as compatible with my transmission. Transmission almost immediately after swap started a shudder. Swapped back to new factory fluids and the shudder went away. Will always run the fluids recommended by the engineers that designed the actual product, not aftermarket compatibles
can't even trust the dealership too. They lie too.
Went to dealer once and 300 miles later blew my motor. I do my own vehicle maintenance now
Or just incompetent, usually the service manager backs them up!
I trust all our mechanics
Yeah right!
You can not see what are they doing or not doing to your car. They are stealership not dealership. They are thieves.
Yes iv seen Toyota dealership not change a oil filter twice!!!
Once again, this excellent video shows you how quick oil change places can rip you off. Thanks also for reminding people to check the trans vent !
Thanks for such a great video. Please keep them coming! I'm a Kraut fan too.
Its nice to see an honest and thorough mechanic.you Sir are a credit to your trade.
Is it possible that the dealer did perform a single drain & fill on the transmission fluid? If so, would they have only replaced 33% new?
I was thinking the same. Still cheated the customer that paid $400
The transmission holds 16 or so quarts but only 3 or so can actually be drained. The only way to do a total change out is to flush it out. In other words you have to disconnect the lines and fill with new as the old is flushed out.
I have seen some "mechanics" drop a hose down the fill tube and pump the oil out. Not even a half job. A lot of work to do it wrong.
Tacoma oil change at 10-minute place...they left off most of the skidplate bolts! I returned to ask for them. He had a whole pile of bolts there at his workstation. WTF. That's when I started DIY.
The only had one of those jiffy lube places change my oil one time. The next time I tried to change my own oil next service period I could absolutely not get the drain bolt off. This was back in 1988 on my Toyota pickup. I used the proper 14mm socket and the bolt was rounded and still didn't budge. I ended up resorting to a PIPE WRENCH and it got the bolt off, you can imagine how that bolt looked. I never been to an oil change place since.
What did you expect from a quick oil change shop?
thats why it's called a 10-minute quick lube shop you drain, change filter if easily accessible, if not just drain and fill lol
Done with Dealership for same reasons.
A mechanic charged me $210 dollars to replace a valve cover gasket on a 2001 Toyota Corolla 4 years ago, I've been DIY Since. Have saved sooooooo much $$$$$
I started doing the service on all 4 of my vehicles when I started marking the oil filters and found out they weren't changing the oil filters.
What did you use to mark them with?
I write the date and mileage on mine with a sharpie.
Most mechanic shops used recycled oils and recycled radiator fluid instead of new fluids and oils which they are charging you for. They are all greedy crooks and the work they do sucks......
I don’t trust anyone but myself. Love the channel man! A true Mechanic shop 👍🏼
Mechanic shops I've worked at we use a machine that you put a tube through dipstick and fill from there ,that plug is a pain in ass to get too so they go through dipstick for transmission.and also we have vacuums to suck out the rear diff fluid and then dumping in new fluid
Thank you my friend for your valuable content🙏🏼 wish I was near you to look after my 99 4Runner
What a pleasure to see a honest mechanic. Wish you were closer to me. You would get my business. Thanks for the video.
Wow !!! I have my suspicions that maybe where I take my truck they do not always put full synthetic like I ask. But they sure do charge me for it. I think I will start doing my own oil from now on.
Just had my transmission, transfer cases and differentials fluids replaced at the Toyota dealership and now my passenger side rear seal is leaking and noticed the breather valve is totally tight. Is there a breather valve on the front as well? Should I demand The dealership replace the seal? Also the oil all over my rear brake caliper and pads. Uggg!
Usually if the caliper and pads are covered in oil, it isn't oil and is actually brake fluid from a leaking brake wheel cylinder. That cylinder should be replaced as well as the brake pads. Once the pads are soaked in the brake fluid, they will swell and deteriorate.
So you did a drain and refill on the ATF. It will still mix with old fluid from the torque converter. So, the new plus old will still be dirty. A couple of drain and refills will dilute the old to a point to where the fluid looks clean again.
Or if it can be flushed out, it would be one step instead
If you watch his other videos, he'll drain fill cycle fluid, drain then refill and repeat procedure at least 3 times to eject old fluid.. i.e. a correct flush..
What a scam, makes my blood boil. This is why I did my own fluid changes.
The transmission case holds many quarts of fluid. A drain and fill only get about 4 quarts out. Maybe a full transmission flush is in order?
Jim Lutz Don’t flush the transmission just drain and fill dont forget the filter if it is easily accessible (under oil pan)
Please show a video on how to properly change 2007-Present Tundra automatic transmission fluid with correct temperature for transmission fluid fill
Thanks
If you search TundraTalk forum you will see how to check the temp via a procedure. That is how I did it on my 07' Tundra. Also you can get an OB2 bluetooth reader and get one of apps that will allow you to read the trans temp.
I used Valvoline full synthetic fluids ATF on my 2003 Camry and have no problems.
The thought that only manufacturer fluid must be used is a little close minded or perhaps just overly cautious in my opinion. Yes the manual does specify, BUT that's there for 3 reasons: to have an established performance standard for the vehicle, to make more money by selling you their fluid, and be able to deny responsibility if the owner puts fluid in that doesn't meet standards. Obviously not all fluids are created equally, so due diligence is important. Again the decision for OEM only is not wrong, it's just that there are other options that don't sacrifice performance.
yep, Toyota is not an oil company, their transmissions have no special magic components. They are used and abused and "serviced" in all kinds of conditions worldwide. Saying they just have to have Toyota oil is farcical. My Toyota light truck has half a million kms and has never had any Toyota oil products apart from what it was delivered with. Its just a high margin , add on business for Toyota and shops that play the game.
I think you should tell what to do if somebody put wrong trans fluid, do we need to open trans chase, change filter and how to fill in the fluid
Just looked up chevron synthetic multi vehicle and it does meet Toyota WS standard! I'm pretty sure they didn't change it but you don't have to use the factory fluids on Toyotas!! All the manufacturers have their fluid made by the oil companies!
That may be but when Toyota tells you to use a different fluid in a newer Toyota than you would use in an older Toyota and that the two are not compatible... What does that tell you about a multi-vehicle fluid that says it's good for both new and older Toyotas? I don't think so.
@@stevensevek6151 that depends alot of the newer fluids are backwards compatible specially is hondas aka you can use the newer fluid in older cars but not vice versa. that is how alot of the multi vehicle fluids work.
Thanks for showing how easy it is to get cheated on routine car maintenance. So glad I resisted the temptation to take my car to a brand x auto repair shop to change my coolant, brake and diff fluids.
Took Tundra in for it's 6th oil change. First 5 oil changes paid for and by and done by the dealership. 6th done by dealership. Drove home to find a dead battery. Not the one I drove to dealership with and loose lug nut on left front tire after a tire rotation. LOL!
terrible
This mechanic is awesome, knowledgeable and skilled.
I fill those transmission through the level hole with a fluid pump. Thats probably what they did. If the only did a service and not a flush then you only get a drain and fill which is why the fluid will still be dirty. The transfer case though was definitely not touched
I wish you were near me. I would be a regular customer of your. You take pride in your work and that is admirable
That’s amazing. Bad. Thanks for sharing this.
You sir are an Honest and Honorable man, thank you for bringing out these things. I really think these businesses that are cheating the customers need to be exposed immediately by the owners of the automobiles. What they did to this Toyota Tundra and using the incorrect transmission fluid could ruin the vehicle. I hope the owner takes that business to court and gets paid enough to purchase another Tundra
OEM or AMSOIL, the only fluids I use.
TwinForce_Fusion if you have a newer Toyota 4x4, you must use OEM fluids. There are no aftermarket oil companies with approved fluids for these applications.
@@1ronhall Exactly.
Amsoil or Redline for me. Indemitsu has a CVT FE fluid out now.
i use Redline D6, easier to get, in my 09 prius and on a 16 corolla CVT and not a problem.
Your a honest person. Good job. I been a mechanic for 35 years now and to me, honesty is the best policy. I Never hade one complain on me from my service. Do it wright or don't do it at all.
You need more of an understanding of fluid recommendations. The 'WS' just refers to world standard. It is a specification that the transmission requires. Sure you can by the ATF from Toyota. But there is nothing wrong using a multi-fluid ATF that is suitable for use that meets the requirements of Toyota WS. That spec is old and if the truck is out of manufacturers powertrain warranty, the Chevron product will be fine. The only difference is Chevron probably hasn't paid the license fees to Toyota to say it is approved. So suitable for use is acceptable.
Also, was all of the fluid serviced? Was a machine hooked up to the cooler lines to evacuate all the fluid in the transmission? Is there a filter element to be serviced? More information is needed here.
I bought fluid from Toyota directly and it’s best to give your VIN as some take WS and others like mine take W2 I believe. Even Toyota Factory used 2 types of fluid. For the price difference it’s worth peace of mind getting Original transmission fluid. OMHO
It's sad that some shops are dishonest. Put fresh fluids in drive it a short while and drain and refill them all again to completely get the bad contaminates out.
6:06 you tightened down the transmission bolt WAY to much
Yeah i noticed that. I'm not a mechanic but i was cringing for those threads
It’s hard to tell just from watching, but ya, he just kept going. And yet he super criticizes the other mechanic for not following specs(Toyota brand)
Hard to tell
No way, that went finger tight plus half a turn.
On the Big Isle of Hawaii One family owns Toyota and Chevy. Well he had bought a new chevy truck.With purchase They get free oil changes for 3 intervals. He drove it home from the Toyota dealer and the next day he went to work,well the oil light comes on. Long story short No oil was put back in the engine. So don't trust even the dealer ship to do thier Job. CHECK ALL WORK DONE ON YOUR VEHICLE WITH THE MECHANIC.. YOU PAYED GOOD MONEY FOR YOUR VEHICLE.
Wow, disappointing for the owner! Hope he used a credit card with the scammers, so he has some recourse if a discussion doesn't work! It sure helps, and no business likes to go through that with its merchant card provider! (Tough! Do better!)
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If you're going to do this mark with paint so you know if it's been worked on
Dang $400! That just total Value of the fluids if u go with OEM, Transmission Fluid alone is like $10 per quart. 🤦♂️
Most trans fluids are around 10 bucks a quart.
Jiffy Lube changed the oil in my lancer and didn’t tighten the drain bolt much. Come out while driving down the highway..
Have to disagree with only Toyota transmission fluid. I worked on cars for more then 10 years and own 2 Toyotas (older tundra and Sienna limited) tale stories that your transmission will blow up like this guy says is BS. Did two fluid swaps on my cars with aftermarket dextron ws and guess what guy both cars run great. Toyota charging you 3 times more for their fluid. Other then that good video. My aftermarket trans fluid will perform just as fine as Toyota if not better.
How much research did you do before the refresh when it comes to compability of new oil and old Toyota oil?
I use AMSOIL for all my fluids. Never a problem and they perform better too.
Toyotas ATF fluid (WS) is NOT a synthetic fluid. Look at the bottle and nowhere does it say it's synthetic. What I'm saying is Toyota ATF fluid is not worth the $10 a quart price they sell it for. Also Toyota ATF fluid is made by a major oil company (not sure which company) to Toyotas specifications for Toyota @@jonasthemovie
Before 2005 this truck had a different transmission that took Dex 3 ATF
It still shouldn't come out dark like that. They just drained what was in the pan. The torque converter and radiator is still full of contaminated fluid. I changed my transmission fluid 4 times on my Nissan Quest to flush the contaminates out and be sure the fluid is mostly changed. I do not have anyway to flush a transmission and the home made methods being used scares me. The transfer case was never touched. Damn crooks!
So sad. I work at a Toyota dealership here in Texas. And if we do shady stuff we will loose our job automatically. We use all oem fluids besides gear oil, we use mobile 1 gear oil other than that all oem fluids and parts.
Senor peter why did he not go to you in the first place ?
Why????
My 2000 Tundra is showing the Center Drive Shaft Elastomeric Bearing as needing replacement at 175K... It seems you could use a soda straw to get small samples through the filler plug openings...
I don’t trust any dealer GM Ford Toyota had issues with all of them!
I second the motion! Same here and very discouraging.
Yes but when you’re redoing the transmission fluid if it’s not flushed or dropped and remove the torque converter it was still have old fluid in it or wrong fluid in this case
Find a Good Mechanic, Stick with Him, Give The Man A Tip , Start with a Twenty or a Fifty. Develop a Relationship with the Owner of a Smaller Independent Shop. Buy Him a Bottle of what he likes for Christmas, Tickets to a Game or a Great Steak Dinner. Find Out what his Hot Button Is. Hand Deliver It. He Will Take Care Of You.! If he Does any Racing even Better. ... Thank You Ralph, In Buffalo. Your a Good Italian and you know your Stuff.
Shouldn't have to pay extra (for honesty) for someone to do the job they are suppose to do.
@@g00glechr0me8 you dont have to but it helps
@@g00glechr0me8 You shouldn't have to pay for someone to walk a plate 50 ft from the kitchen to your table either, but if you don't you get extra "special" seasoning
You are a careful honest mechanic who takes pride in his work and follows the rules and provide excellent service. Here in the UK we have some garages who run their business like the Mafia, corrupt and tricks is how they rip people off.
sue those crocks !
Toyota's are the best! I have a Prius and a Corolla and both have over 200K miles and run like new! I use Automotive Wolf car care software on my vehicles to monitor the maintenance schedules and have it set up to send me text message reminders when any service is due, so I'm always up-to-date on all the maintenance. Makes a BIG difference. :)