Guys I'm 52 and Canadian. I've lived here my whole life. These arguements have been going on here in North America for over a hundred years. GM vs Ford vs Dodge is a decades old thing. This truck is awesome and those mods are not over the top. Boosting the power by letting it breath is exactly what's done here. I wish we could get those compact pickups with the diesels you have. GM is all we got.
Agreed. The super duty is a monster. I’ve owned a few. The oldest has over 300k miles on the clock as is still going strong as a welding rig. I’ve got a 2020 now and the only limitation is the ability of the tires to keep traction. Everyone will say Cummins this and Cummins that. Of course the Cummins is reliable. The foundation for the motor hasn’t changed in a hundred years. My 1912 model t still runs too. But that doesn’t mean it’s better than a new car. Since ford stopped depending on an outside supplier for their diesel powertrains they’ve updated their engines every 2 years or so. They get better and better with each update.
i have owned many 4wd's over the years but am now fortunate to own a 2021 F250 Black Widow with 6.7 Powerstroke. There is no comparison to all the other 4wd's i have ever owned. it is great on fuel and will tow anything with ease. The 6.7 powerstrokes have been recently classed as a million mile motor from many people in the USA. Great car and could never go back to a cruiser or a Patrol.
I got drive a f350 dually insane towing ability was and older truck but the power stroke engines no joke when ya need the grunt all the salty cruiser owners make me laugh 😆
No OEM F series available in Australia. No F series factory approved RHD conversion in Australia. At least the Ram comes to Australia with full manufacturer backing, and a thorough OEM approved and supported re-manufacture to RHD, done by Walkinshaw. The way Jason sledges Ram and Justin from Patriot is very poor form.
Completely agree, and I believe that is where Justin at patriot was coming from. I really like both patriot games and all 4 adventure but this is taking it too far as if it were a pissing comp. Bit disappointing to see this from Jase to be honest.
It’s important to remember… the Powerstroke 6.7 factory figures are ’Unstressed’ HP & Torque… meaning it can run all day long without blinking. I wouldn’t recommend upping those numbers significantly unless you addressed & upgraded a few other items under the bonnet.
Seems like a pointless comment. The video is just showing how a F250 has MORE than a Ram. Pretty simple, didn't look line any kind of ploy against Justin to me!
@@cliffgare3390 yeah your right but I guess the point is you can work any engine with the right mods and push it within an inch of its life to get whatever numbers you so desire but just how much they have already pushed that engine from the factory to top the spec sheets needs to be taken into account, at least if you care about longevity and reliability
Ram offers a High Output Cummins ISB (425 hp and 1,075 lb ft/1,460 nm) in the HD line and you get a better transmission with it. I ran a standard output 2011 Ram 2500 with 350 hp/650 lb ft of torque for 12 years pulling a 30' enclosed car hauler trailer at weights up to 14,000 lbs. It was never a problem of power with that trailer, but I was short on payload. Ended up selling the truck for $12k less than I paid for it new (including taxes and fees) and now have an F450 ordered. The Ford will let me use my 26,000 lb rated gooseneck flatbed at capacity.
@@alancallaghan4363 There is no powerjoke on earth that can reliably produce it's factory power, let alone tuned. Cummins, on the other hand, will do a million miles tuned or not.
@@einfelder8262 ok so my powerstroke is tuned and running for the last 20 years with millions other ftrucks 🤷♂️🤦🏻, u seem like a really smart person 🤣🤣🤌
@@alancallaghan4363 Yeh, nobody on earth has had trouble with powerstroke and F truck. You are a stupid person if you think one example represents the whole story. I have a 15 year old Golf GTI which has had zero problems, so that means VW is a perfect product.
Go the ram 💪🏻 As a big all4adventure fan and yes it’s a sweet car, but to go to the efforts to bag ram that hard and then put bloody clips of Justin talking about his pride and joy just shows this is all a big wank and for the wrong reasons. Friendly banter is always welcome but this is Very disappointing and would never think you guys would go this low.
How. Patriot claims are false under any measurable metric. Power stock, power tuned both hp and tq, payload etc. I think you can only be sued if you make misleading claims. I like patriot but I have to agree with this guy. Plus the ram is ugly, f250 looks nice.
@@veneratedmortal4369 the key difference between the Rams and F250s is one isn't recognised by the manufacturer as a certified conversion and isn't covered by a national dealer network. If you have an issue with the Ford who you gonna take it to, your local Ford dealer? No help there as they don't stock nor would be able to source parts for a car they have no responsibility for.
4wds have just become such a pissing contest between everyone. Of course the 250 will make more power than the cruiser, it’s not a fair comparison at all. It also costs twice as much as a base, and is completely impractical for 99% of people. I’d still have a 79 or a built 200 for less than this thing.
The Overland Ftruck is only $50,000 more than the top spec LC300. The LC300 then needs $150,000 spent on it, and then it has only half the power, towing, and carrying capacity. Whether the LC300 is more reliable is not proven, but the Ford definitely has plenty of issues like body falling apart just before or just after the engine shits itself.....
Yeah its not a fair comparison but then again how many Landcruiser comparisons have been carried out against other 4 wheel drives that are no where near the cost or engine size as a Landcruiser. Simple fact is it eats any Landcruiser.
Spot on David 👍 This comment is so ironic because LC70 owners make this exact unfair comparison constantly. 80% of LC 70s in Australia are tradie fashion accessories.
@@FJaypewpew Yep, if you say it quickly it doesn't sound much, haha. But it isn't much compared to what people are spending when the ybuy a brand new cruiser, 79, Patrol, and then chop and stretch and build canopies with ridiculous setup. Whatever happened to basic camping on a budget?
A little competition never hurt anybody. We all knew as soon as they called it “rameater” they were really having a dig at patriot. At least this video made it clear.
I'm from Alberta Canada. The f250 is a great truck don't get me wrong. But there's a reason why we all use ram 3500s in the oilfield. It's the only truck with a REAL diesel motor. Not a converted v8. It's the most reliable truck out of the bunch. And it will make more power than any other truck. Should have contacted north america before flexing the Ford.
Hi Jason regarding your RAMEATER. Have you ever wondered or thought about WHY big rigs (haulage trucks) generally are NOT FITTED with V8 Diesel motors? Cummins motors are RENOWNED for reliability & longevity. Hence why these motors are so common. The proof will be in the pudding ….the life expectancy of the power stroke of your F250.
Tuned to the limit removes most reliability. I wouldn't want to win something that will become a money pit. Can't be much left covered by warranty in it and hot cars break stuff. Cool as though.
Love the Ford...it's a nice setup. But for me it's a RAM better reliability, well it's better than the Ford... These trucks are awesome vehicles but just a little to big for every day driving.. prefer the traditional utes from Japan makers etc...
They've been bluing since the fall out when Jason swapped to MDC and designed A 1000% better toy hauler than patriot ever could. Even after patriot stole the dimensions of the trailer Jason built way back in season 3 before patriot was A thing. the same trailer that was adapted to tow swampy
Jase must have had a serious fall out with the marketing/sponsorship team at Dodge. They mustn't have a greed to throw him a truck. That's some serious trash talk. Seriously, I've worked over in Canada with these trucks many times and they're all good. In saying that, I have the same F250 here in OZ Jase started with before the mods.
Just a reply to the old mate who says real trucks today don’t use v8 has obviously never heard of scania before. 770hp now. By the do your research and ask any truck driver in Australia what they think of the isx Cummins with dpf and you’ll spend hours hearing how hateful those engines are. They were crap. The x15 now has had many failures before half a million ks.
Don’t see to many Scania quads in the mining industry Pilbara region. Caterpillar are phasing out of trucks & predominantly running Cummins motors. Must be a sound reason for it. th-cam.com/video/2UwSOVTQCis/w-d-xo.html
Jase even in the State Ram is their main work truck. Not too mention they have a lot issues unlike RAM they built tough and it’ll out work FORD 1000 times. Go check out LAPPING THE ISLAND PAGE. He’s F350 failed already.
You win! I can’t see myself driving this vehicle. I think most Australian adventurers are more interested in a lower dollar spend and more conservative weight. I wonder if the Bush Tucker Man would buy a ticket and upgrade the Landi?
the RAM also has 2 less cylinders and handles modification better. The real reason f250 takes the cake is the aluminum body. The payload is 750-800lbs more truck for truck. Can’t go wrong with either of them
One thing for sure is Simon won’t have to worry about getting a Coffee- you can fit a coffee shop in the back of that big Girl ! You might have to beef up the trailer drawbar coz the big F truck has enough grunt to stretch it 🤣 Are Supafit going to do some seat covers ? You need some tough seat covers for a tough truck !
You seem really hell bent on trying to dis Patriot at any chance. First you steal the Toy Hauler concept and make a cheap Chinese rip-off. Then you have a crack at the Patriot Black Truck with Back in Black. And now you even put a clip of Justin in this video to once again try and degrade them. Did a deal not work out in your favour or something, you seem to really have it in for Patriot Campers...
Disagree with you there mate and I said it to your face at the Brisbane show. I’ve got a ram 3500 with 1400+ kN out of the box. Still like your content though. Good hand grenade btw. Stand back and watch the comments
Yours is a 3500, Jason's is a 2500. His comparisons are the 2500 series whether gmc 2500, f250, ram 2500 Its a 2500 versus 2500 Not 3500 versus 2500, where did Jase mention this?
@@Donkay01 yes you are correct. But jase has now got the equivalent to a 3500. His has a Gvm upgrade putting it into the NHV category and now requires a light rigid license to drive it.
you do know the Ram comes with higher end engine they offer a lower engine for those who dont need all that power and dont want to spend an extra 20k. also that F250 has a powerjoke under the hood good luck getting parts when it fails a friend of mine that lives in Sydney is still waiting on a new water pump around 3 months now.
What a joke Jase, carring on like this you will lose respect and your show will have no view's. Shake off the chip you got on your shoulders, justin from patriot is a nice guy and has much respect from viewers...
Ford = unreliability You Australians will learn about that soon. The TH-cam channel lapping the island already found out the hard way. His ford 3500 already left him stranded. People buy Ram for the cummins motor. Most of the semi trucks use cummins because of reliability. Even the Fords use cummins in their 6500 medium duty trucks. Cummins 1st Duramax 2nd Powerstroke last in reliability.
The only reason trucks use cummins is because Cat stopped making 15ish ltr truck motors . And Detroits are too wide to fit in between the rails of Kenworths so if you want a Kenworth Cummins is the only option .
There are plenty of trucks in Australia: Kenworth, Peterbilt, Western Star, Mack, Mercedes, Scania, need I go on? Rams and the Rameater are nothing more than big, powerful dual cab utes! Unless, there's a lot of big ego's out there?!
2500s are glorified grocery getters, only used for relatively light heavy duty work, get a 3500 ram like anyone that’s actually going to do some serious work and it has more torque than the Ford, the ram also comes with the cp3 not the terrible CP4
Power is not the only thing in. Aussie environment.you need reliability which ford doesn't have. Landcruiser79 will mock you when you stop half of the way
Really Disappointing to see you put in that clip from Patriot campers like that. What was it meant to achieve? Completely uncalled for and extremely childish.
Yes more grunt but can you get parts in the middle of nowhere ? This is why trucks like toyota have reigned supreme in the outback - everyone uses them and parts are available . If i had a choice of two trucks - a modern vehicle or John ruth's old toyota ( milo ) i would pick the old mechanical injected diesel ( milo) any day - might be slow but she ain't gunna stop ! Watch out if Mack ever decide to build 4wd's for the public market 🤣
I can't even get parts for a 1kz Toyota without a 3 week wait. In this day and age, if something breaks on tour it's tow truck. I'm talking new, genuine parts by the way, the only type worth labour.
@@elliottg5987 ya all our parts are genuine ford, remeber the pick up trucks in America is huge market and so is the parts, we get containers of it here so we got plenty of gear if need be 🍻
Now that Ford are also bringing the 150 in to OZ we are spoiled for choice . Is the Ford imported as RH drive or converted here like the Bodge - sorry Dodge ? I wasn’t talking about new parts but second hand or something you can salvage out of a wreck , I have seen the guys do this plenty of times on the show .
Lol. Would rather a shit land cruiser for half the price and still be on the road in 20-30 years. This American gear is good for towing and not much else. Rameater will be rusted up in a shed in 10 years now. How many people actually need to tow so much off road?
It's part of their business model, to showcase a vehicle in a season, and then write it off as part of a lottery draw. Very good revenue and they can bring in new toys for new season and avoid any long term reliability issues
Might have more power out of the box but are they as reliable? Only based on TH-cam research, the Ford seems to be in last place for reliability. There's one good comparison video (few years old so things could have changed now?) showing the difference in chasis twist when flexing between the buses. The F truck twists so bad that the tailgate can't be opened, the Ram didn't seem to be adversely affected at all. th-cam.com/video/_f3CAnH7WIM/w-d-xo.html
No they are junk! I live in TN, USA. I am English and have an open mind and know the other vehicles available elsewhere. I work on these trucks daily also Dodges and Chevys. I would not own ANY of the newer vehicles sold here. Not even the Toyota's. We don't get the 79 over here nor do we get any Toyota or Nissan diesels. We get junk. Too many gadgets and too much electronics. The can bus systems constantly go down. We had a 6.7 main bearings fail at 80k miles and the truck was maintained by the Ford dealer. Also the bodies on the Fords fall apart after a very short time. I will keep my Tacoma 4 cyl. If I get a tow rig I will get a 1994 Dodge W250 Cummins. All new are simply not reliable.
C section chassis gives the vehicle its flex by design. The box section Ram is rigid. Ford know this… so do automotive engineers. Rams lame attempt to highlight the chassis flex did nothing to curb the success of the Super Duty. I’m on my 3rd one now and wouldn’t ever contemplate a Ram.
@@streakychambers658 So a third Ford in how many years? One of my friends bought a 1993 Dodge 3500 dually 2wd Cummins 5 speed brand new. Hauls motorcycles for Daytona Harley Davidson. Truck has 1.5 million miles on the original engine and transmission. Let's see a new Ford in 30 years that's driven daily and has 1.5 million miles on the original engine. LOL.
@@streakychambers658 Oh and by the way towing you want rigidity. For offroad you want flex in the chassis. Otherwise you will get cracks. These full size trucks are made for towing, nothing else, so a rigid frame is what you need.
@@SimonElenor you don’t know the answer to that question no more than anyone else. There’s plenty of straws out there…. keep grabbing at them if you’re so content at playing Gotcha 😂
Down in Tassie last month, camping in a free camp. In rolls a F250 with a fairly standard van. He came, he looked and drove on. No way was he going to be able to back that van in. Yep, big comfortable truck, but that's what it is, a truck. Stupid big for most places here. And I have to say driving a Prado with a camper trailer on the back around Tassie myself, I didn't envy him one little bit trying to get that rig around.
The American trucks eat Landcruiser's for breakfast. Why would you even bother wasting money on buying a new 200/300 or a Y62 and chopping it. Even the Ram being at the bottom of the American 2500 line up is still better then a off tap 79 or 200 not to mention Rameater. Give it 10 years and you wont even see any Landcruiser's in the bush.
@@rosevermeersch5140 ya I agree but to say that a dodge is better than ford is ludacris i like Patriot campers channel I watch from Canada I'm not Australian but I love everything about your country
@@jimh.412 all American trucks are. They’re pieces of shit. F trucks were great with the 7.3, not anymore, Chev have been shit since the lbz duramax got turned into an emissions nightmare. The ram has been shit since they lost the 24v 6bt and went to the 6.7.
@@Deatomizer never seen the rear axle tube collapse under the pressure of the ubolts on a ram, or anything for that matter, have on a f truck. They’re all buckets of shit, If I were going out bush and knew there was nobody to come get me I’d be taking anything but American or euro.
Win the F250 Rameater: keys2adventure.com.au/f250-rameater
Guys I'm 52 and Canadian. I've lived here my whole life. These arguements have been going on here in North America for over a hundred years. GM vs Ford vs Dodge is a decades old thing. This truck is awesome and those mods are not over the top. Boosting the power by letting it breath is exactly what's done here. I wish we could get those compact pickups with the diesels you have. GM is all we got.
Weird how were jealous of each other.
Agreed. The super duty is a monster. I’ve owned a few. The oldest has over 300k miles on the clock as is still going strong as a welding rig. I’ve got a 2020 now and the only limitation is the ability of the tires to keep traction. Everyone will say Cummins this and Cummins that. Of course the Cummins is reliable. The foundation for the motor hasn’t changed in a hundred years. My 1912 model t still runs too. But that doesn’t mean it’s better than a new car. Since ford stopped depending on an outside supplier for their diesel powertrains they’ve updated their engines every 2 years or so. They get better and better with each update.
i have owned many 4wd's over the years but am now fortunate to own a 2021 F250 Black Widow with 6.7 Powerstroke. There is no comparison to all the other 4wd's i have ever owned. it is great on fuel and will tow anything with ease. The 6.7 powerstrokes have been recently classed as a million mile motor from many people in the USA. Great car and could never go back to a cruiser or a Patrol.
When you have problems . Landcruiser79 will come to tow you :)
Great on fuel? I’ve seen one literally jammed in a cut going up the rover trail at Coffs. Too fat, great in the desert or on the beach I guess.
I got drive a f350 dually insane towing ability was and older truck but the power stroke engines no joke when ya need the grunt all the salty cruiser owners make me laugh 😆
Is the difference between the 250 and 350 just around payload?
@@adamhatton7579 yes. same body, chassis & drive train. only difference is extra leaf spring in the rear, unless you have a dually.
Funny looking Ram 2500 at 0:28
No OEM F series available in Australia.
No F series factory approved RHD conversion in Australia.
At least the Ram comes to Australia with full manufacturer backing, and a thorough OEM approved and supported re-manufacture to RHD, done by Walkinshaw.
The way Jason sledges Ram and Justin from Patriot is very poor form.
Completely agree, and I believe that is where Justin at patriot was coming from. I really like both patriot games and all 4 adventure but this is taking it too far as if it were a pissing comp. Bit disappointing to see this from Jase to be honest.
Hes really got it in for them.
It's pretty piss poor really.
F250 VS Toyota Corolla. It doent matter when you disrespect people like that. Justin has no place in that clip. Shame on you.
It’s important to remember… the Powerstroke 6.7 factory figures are ’Unstressed’ HP & Torque… meaning it can run all day long without blinking.
I wouldn’t recommend upping those numbers significantly unless you addressed & upgraded a few other items under the bonnet.
Seems like a pointless comment. The video is just showing how a F250 has MORE than a Ram. Pretty simple, didn't look line any kind of ploy against Justin to me!
@@cliffgare3390 yeah your right but I guess the point is you can work any engine with the right mods and push it within an inch of its life to get whatever numbers you so desire but just how much they have already pushed that engine from the factory to top the spec sheets needs to be taken into account, at least if you care about longevity and reliability
i now live in Canada and I can tell you as a user of both that the ford has given less trouble than the dodge.
To give a little comparison an Cummins X15 in factory form is rated @ 600hp and 1850Nm at the fly wheel which is fitted in a new Kenworth K200!!
Ram offers a High Output Cummins ISB (425 hp and 1,075 lb ft/1,460 nm) in the HD line and you get a better transmission with it. I ran a standard output 2011 Ram 2500 with 350 hp/650 lb ft of torque for 12 years pulling a 30' enclosed car hauler trailer at weights up to 14,000 lbs. It was never a problem of power with that trailer, but I was short on payload. Ended up selling the truck for $12k less than I paid for it new (including taxes and fees) and now have an F450 ordered. The Ford will let me use my 26,000 lb rated gooseneck flatbed at capacity.
Does this use the 2ltr bi turbo for a starter motor?
No it needs an LS 6
Let’s not talk about the fact some people have run 2000hp through the 6.7 Cummins.
Yes but there is abit more involed then a tune for that to happen, the powerstrokes have hit 2000hp too and duramax 👍🍻🍻
@@alancallaghan4363 There is no powerjoke on earth that can reliably produce it's factory power, let alone tuned. Cummins, on the other hand, will do a million miles tuned or not.
@@einfelder8262 ok so my powerstroke is tuned and running for the last 20 years with millions other ftrucks 🤷♂️🤦🏻, u seem like a really smart person 🤣🤣🤌
@@alancallaghan4363 Yeh, nobody on earth has had trouble with powerstroke and F truck. You are a stupid person if you think one example represents the whole story. I have a 15 year old Golf GTI which has had zero problems, so that means VW is a perfect product.
@@einfelder82627.3 Powerstroke enters the chat.
Go the ram 💪🏻 As a big all4adventure fan and yes it’s a sweet car, but to go to the efforts to bag ram that hard and then put bloody clips of Justin talking about his pride and joy just shows this is all a big wank and for the wrong reasons. Friendly banter is always welcome but this is Very disappointing and would never think you guys would go this low.
I agree. WTF is the point of childish shit like this?
He's turning into a flog, last year or so have been cringe worthy
It seems a inflated ego has changed him and the show.
Jason might be a bit of a flog at times but Simon is the man and should drive the big cars. As for egos, u can't get inside the pcor shed
100%
What are the base prices between the f250 and 2500?
Lol look I like ford, but Cummins is at the top and is pretty well known. big shots fired at patriot and ram. Lol hope you don’t get sued.
How. Patriot claims are false under any measurable metric. Power stock, power tuned both hp and tq, payload etc. I think you can only be sued if you make misleading claims. I like patriot but I have to agree with this guy.
Plus the ram is ugly, f250 looks nice.
Sued for what? If you’re balls are that small you’d sue over the size of your truck you’re a eunuch
@@veneratedmortal4369 the key difference between the Rams and F250s is one isn't recognised by the manufacturer as a certified conversion and isn't covered by a national dealer network.
If you have an issue with the Ford who you gonna take it to, your local Ford dealer?
No help there as they don't stock nor would be able to source parts for a car they have no responsibility for.
4wds have just become such a pissing contest between everyone. Of course the 250 will make more power than the cruiser, it’s not a fair comparison at all. It also costs twice as much as a base, and is completely impractical for 99% of people.
I’d still have a 79 or a built 200 for less than this thing.
The Overland Ftruck is only $50,000 more than the top spec LC300. The LC300 then needs $150,000 spent on it, and then it has only half the power, towing, and carrying capacity. Whether the LC300 is more reliable is not proven, but the Ford definitely has plenty of issues like body falling apart just before or just after the engine shits itself.....
Yeah its not a fair comparison but then again how many Landcruiser comparisons have been carried out against other 4 wheel drives that are no where near the cost or engine size as a Landcruiser. Simple fact is it eats any Landcruiser.
Spot on David 👍 This comment is so ironic because LC70 owners make this exact unfair comparison constantly.
80% of LC 70s in Australia are tradie fashion accessories.
@@einfelder8262 “only”
@@FJaypewpew Yep, if you say it quickly it doesn't sound much, haha. But it isn't much compared to what people are spending when the ybuy a brand new cruiser, 79, Patrol, and then chop and stretch and build canopies with ridiculous setup. Whatever happened to basic camping on a budget?
So now all the TH-cam channels aren't just competing to be the biggest, now there directly ripping on them, shit move mate
Nah I reckon it's good. I don't have a dog in this fight, but it's good to see a bit of rivalry for once.
@@turbostyler would make it interesting at least 👍
A little competition never hurt anybody. We all knew as soon as they called it “rameater” they were really having a dig at patriot. At least this video made it clear.
If tows the barge so safety and easily and it's nearly new why give it away .. must have great sponsors what will replace the f250?
that jiggle at 0:07........it reminds me of how the hummers break their steering moments before it happens...
Rameater is awesome. Good job Jase!!👍
Ftrucks for the win !!! Always !
I'm from Alberta Canada. The f250 is a great truck don't get me wrong. But there's a reason why we all use ram 3500s in the oilfield. It's the only truck with a REAL diesel motor. Not a converted v8. It's the most reliable truck out of the bunch. And it will make more power than any other truck. Should have contacted north america before flexing the Ford.
3.5 t on the back, that must be 1 Heavy trailer
Apples to apples mate, this is a 2500 vs your 3500 lol.
people in Texas oilfields drive a lot of Fords...
love the light bar's setup! can you do an episode of that setup aswell as a night drive?
Hi Jason regarding your RAMEATER. Have you ever wondered or thought about WHY big rigs (haulage trucks) generally are NOT FITTED with V8 Diesel motors? Cummins motors are RENOWNED for reliability & longevity. Hence why these motors are so common. The proof will be in the pudding ….the life expectancy of the power stroke of your F250.
Tuned to the limit removes most reliability. I wouldn't want to win something that will become a money pit. Can't be much left covered by warranty in it and hot cars break stuff. Cool as though.
th-cam.com/video/2UwSOVTQCis/w-d-xo.html
I am pretty sure the CAT V8 and old Mack V8 does a great job hauling our 100T triple road trains out in the bush
I was waiting for this stupid comment, ram owners think they’re driving a semi 😂 you guys are ridiculous
New scania prime mover has a 600hp v8 diesel.
Love the Ford...it's a nice setup.
But for me it's a RAM better reliability, well it's better than the Ford... These trucks are awesome vehicles but just a little to big for every day driving.. prefer the traditional utes from Japan makers etc...
Ftrucks are way more reliable then RAM mate.
@@TyFenwick But in heavy duty world, most people agree Cummings has better reliability than powerstroke. And it’s the best engine for towing.
Where did you read Ram is reliable?
@@Deatomizer The older Cummins engine was reliable but the new one not so much. Ford all the way!!!
@@ysgood cummins hasnt been the best since early 1998
have a look at what Hotshot companies in the US have to say about these vehicles, high mileage and constant heavy towing.
Why did you feel the need to throw shade a Justin and patriot campers who used to be one of your partners ?
Crazy numbers for sure definately an awesome rig. I'm curious though, all that power and torque but reliability and longevity is yet to be spoken for
6.7 is now longest running diesel engine ford has sold and less warranty issues than the turd 7.3
Did u guys have any dramas with the 250? Im thinking about building 1.
Are you and Patriot having a blue ? 🇦🇺
They've been bluing since the fall out when Jason swapped to MDC and designed A 1000% better toy hauler than patriot ever could. Even after patriot stole the dimensions of the trailer Jason built way back in season 3 before patriot was A thing. the same trailer that was adapted to tow swampy
😂😂
I call them Fix Or Repair Daily! Mainly because I work on them daily.
Is there a fued going on with Justin from Patriot?
For years
This car is so nice. You have convinced me to enter.
Everyone ripping on jase for just stating the specs are better on the f250 from stock, seems like fair game to me.
You Will be happier with the F250 than any other truck guarantee
Jase must have had a serious fall out with the marketing/sponsorship team at Dodge. They mustn't have a greed to throw him a truck. That's some serious trash talk. Seriously, I've worked over in Canada with these trucks many times and they're all good.
In saying that, I have the same F250 here in OZ Jase started with before the mods.
I think he has a point. The f250 has way more power and its not so ugly. It's just good consumer advice perhaps?
I agree with everything he said
Just a reply to the old mate who says real trucks today don’t use v8 has obviously never heard of scania before. 770hp now. By the do your research and ask any truck driver in Australia what they think of the isx Cummins with dpf and you’ll spend hours hearing how hateful those engines are. They were crap. The x15 now has had many failures before half a million ks.
Don’t see to many Scania quads in the mining industry Pilbara region. Caterpillar are phasing out of trucks & predominantly running Cummins motors. Must be a sound reason for it.
th-cam.com/video/2UwSOVTQCis/w-d-xo.html
My understanding is this Scania problem is with the "emission system" rather than the "actual motor"?
To be fair we get the neutered 6.7 Cummins here. Current gen American motor is in another league
Jase even in the State Ram is their main work truck. Not too mention they have a lot issues unlike RAM they built tough and it’ll out work FORD 1000 times. Go check out LAPPING THE ISLAND PAGE. He’s F350 failed already.
Ford's are #1 in the states for many many years. Why do you think that is? 🤔
He did fill the intake with water. No engine is going to like that.
What a beast of a machine!
You win! I can’t see myself driving this vehicle. I think most Australian adventurers are more interested in a lower dollar spend and more conservative weight. I wonder if the Bush Tucker Man would buy a ticket and upgrade the Landi?
Has the diff housing crushed yet?
that's alot of power !
the RAM also has 2 less cylinders and handles modification better. The real reason f250 takes the cake is the aluminum body. The payload is 750-800lbs more truck for truck. Can’t go wrong with either of them
Crazy man geez never have I seen a diesel do stuff like that wow
Are we talking about a Ram fresh off the lot or with $100k of aftermarket kit like your F250?
Did you not watch the video? Ram is last in hp and tq stock. You'd have to upgrade the RAM big to just compare with a stock Ford!
One thing for sure is Simon won’t have to worry about getting a Coffee- you can fit a coffee shop in the back of that big Girl !
You might have to beef up the trailer drawbar coz the big F truck has enough grunt to stretch it 🤣
Are Supafit going to do some seat covers ? You need some tough seat covers for a tough truck !
Has your cp4 pump taken a crap yet
Absolute weapon. 💪🏽
🤔 he does realise the same Cummins motor comes out with 1458nm in the HO models?
Maybe they should also be raffling a new shed to park it in lol
Fitted with a surprise pea front end. It's a surprise if it doesn't suit itself.
You seem really hell bent on trying to dis Patriot at any chance.
First you steal the Toy Hauler concept and make a cheap Chinese rip-off.
Then you have a crack at the Patriot Black Truck with Back in Black.
And now you even put a clip of Justin in this video to once again try and degrade them.
Did a deal not work out in your favour or something, you seem to really have it in for Patriot Campers...
Go for a ride dubbed back in black this time round in cape york
Disagree with you there mate and I said it to your face at the Brisbane show. I’ve got a ram 3500 with 1400+ kN out of the box. Still like your content though. Good hand grenade btw. Stand back and watch the comments
Yours is a 3500, Jason's is a 2500. His comparisons are the 2500 series whether gmc 2500, f250, ram 2500
Its a 2500 versus 2500
Not 3500 versus 2500, where did Jase mention this?
@@Donkay01 yes you are correct. But jase has now got the equivalent to a 3500. His has a Gvm upgrade putting it into the NHV category and now requires a light rigid license to drive it.
you do know the Ram comes with higher end engine they offer a lower engine for those who dont need all that power and dont want to spend an extra 20k. also that F250 has a powerjoke under the hood good luck getting parts when it fails a friend of mine that lives in Sydney is still waiting on a new water pump around 3 months now.
Jase. I love to see how you beat this next year with another ute give away.
What a joke Jase, carring on like this you will lose respect and your show will have no view's. Shake off the chip you got on your shoulders, justin from patriot is a nice guy and has much respect from viewers...
Someone’s got a ram🙄
I’m still here 🥲
Hahhaa have a winge
For 2023 Ford offers a high output version of the powerstroke that makes 500 hp and 1200 lb ft from the factory.
Ford = unreliability
You Australians will learn about that soon. The TH-cam channel lapping the island already found out the hard way. His ford 3500 already left him stranded. People buy Ram for the cummins motor. Most of the semi trucks use cummins because of reliability. Even the Fords use cummins in their 6500 medium duty trucks. Cummins 1st
Duramax 2nd
Powerstroke last in reliability.
2019-2022 Ram 2500 and 3500 recalled
Owners of large utes need to contact a dealer for repair immediately
Didnt leave him stranded, he rig was part of the recall that was miss info to him, they replaced the diff and he on his way 👍🍻
The only reason trucks use cummins is because Cat stopped making 15ish ltr truck motors . And Detroits are too wide to fit in between the rails of Kenworths so if you want a Kenworth Cummins is the only option .
@@markedward5941 A lot of the Kenworths here are using Paccar engines.
But where can you park the thing when you go to the mall for a few takeaways? Oh yeah, take the eLantra 1.8 instead.
You lost me when you shat on the Patriot guys.....stupid move and an 'unsubscribe' moment for me. Shame on you guys for doing this👎👎
bye
Exactly Mrdaveohdave they have become a bunch of tossers..
Sook
The patriot guys are flogs aswell
@@tonydickey9669 FEADC
There are plenty of trucks in Australia: Kenworth, Peterbilt, Western Star, Mack, Mercedes, Scania, need I go on? Rams and the Rameater are nothing more than big, powerful dual cab utes! Unless, there's a lot of big ego's out there?!
Getting a ticket was the best decision ever ❤💪🔥
2500s are glorified grocery getters, only used for relatively light heavy duty work, get a 3500 ram like anyone that’s actually going to do some serious work and it has more torque than the Ford, the ram also comes with the cp3 not the terrible CP4
Dpfs still on??
I got me a ticket 🤞🙏🙏🙏i would cry and polish it at same time 😍😍
Imagine the state of all our bush tracks if these bloody things were getting around everywhere, the boys are starting to get ridiculous 🤔
Power is not the only thing in. Aussie environment.you need reliability which ford doesn't have. Landcruiser79 will mock you when you stop half of the way
Jase give it a break mate
Love it. Just need to win it or Powerball now.
Really Disappointing to see you put in that clip from Patriot campers like that. What was it meant to achieve? Completely uncalled for and extremely childish.
Yes more grunt but can you get parts in the middle of nowhere ? This is why trucks like toyota have reigned supreme in the outback - everyone uses them and parts are available .
If i had a choice of two trucks - a modern vehicle or John ruth's old toyota ( milo ) i would pick the old mechanical injected diesel ( milo) any day - might be slow but she ain't gunna stop !
Watch out if Mack ever decide to build 4wd's for the public market 🤣
Can get parts delivered aus wide, it is 2022 now, there are businesses in aus just for the American rigs and a huge range of spare gear 👍🍻
I can't even get parts for a 1kz Toyota without a 3 week wait. In this day and age, if something breaks on tour it's tow truck.
I'm talking new, genuine parts by the way, the only type worth labour.
@@elliottg5987 ya all our parts are genuine ford, remeber the pick up trucks in America is huge market and so is the parts, we get containers of it here so we got plenty of gear if need be 🍻
Now that Ford are also bringing the 150 in to OZ we are spoiled for choice .
Is the Ford imported as RH drive or converted here like the Bodge - sorry Dodge ?
I wasn’t talking about new parts but second hand or something you can salvage out of a wreck , I have seen the guys do this plenty of times on the show .
Nice bit of kit 🤔😜👍🏻🤩
Cannot lie about the science of these things ...
Lol. Would rather a shit land cruiser for half the price and still be on the road in 20-30 years. This American gear is good for towing and not much else. Rameater will be rusted up in a shed in 10 years now. How many people actually need to tow so much off road?
The Super Duty trucks are aluminum.
Just wondering if it was so good, why did you want to get rid of it only after one season?
Because he just got a 300 series cruiser chopped ready for a new tray
It's part of their business model, to showcase a vehicle in a season, and then write it off as part of a lottery draw. Very good revenue and they can bring in new toys for new season and avoid any long term reliability issues
Might have more power out of the box but are they as reliable?
Only based on TH-cam research, the Ford seems to be in last place for reliability.
There's one good comparison video (few years old so things could have changed now?) showing the difference in chasis twist when flexing between the buses.
The F truck twists so bad that the tailgate can't be opened, the Ram didn't seem to be adversely affected at all. th-cam.com/video/_f3CAnH7WIM/w-d-xo.html
No they are junk! I live in TN, USA. I am English and have an open mind and know the other vehicles available elsewhere. I work on these trucks daily also Dodges and Chevys. I would not own ANY of the newer vehicles sold here. Not even the Toyota's. We don't get the 79 over here nor do we get any Toyota or Nissan diesels. We get junk. Too many gadgets and too much electronics. The can bus systems constantly go down. We had a 6.7 main bearings fail at 80k miles and the truck was maintained by the Ford dealer. Also the bodies on the Fords fall apart after a very short time. I will keep my Tacoma 4 cyl. If I get a tow rig I will get a 1994 Dodge W250 Cummins. All new are simply not reliable.
C section chassis gives the vehicle its flex by design. The box section Ram is rigid. Ford know this… so do automotive engineers. Rams lame attempt to highlight the chassis flex did nothing to curb the success of the Super Duty.
I’m on my 3rd one now and wouldn’t ever contemplate a Ram.
@@streakychambers658 So a third Ford in how many years? One of my friends bought a 1993 Dodge 3500 dually 2wd Cummins 5 speed brand new. Hauls motorcycles for Daytona Harley Davidson. Truck has 1.5 million miles on the original engine and transmission. Let's see a new Ford in 30 years that's driven daily and has 1.5 million miles on the original engine. LOL.
@@streakychambers658 Oh and by the way towing you want rigidity. For offroad you want flex in the chassis. Otherwise you will get cracks. These full size trucks are made for towing, nothing else, so a rigid frame is what you need.
@@SimonElenor you don’t know the answer to that question no more than anyone else. There’s plenty of straws out there…. keep grabbing at them if you’re so content at playing Gotcha 😂
its $120k more then a 2500 ram it would want to eat it ......
and fuck up all the tracks with this torque and the heavy trailer...
Did you compare hub dyno figures to dyno with 35’s bolted on? Lol
Down in Tassie last month, camping in a free camp. In rolls a F250 with a fairly standard van. He came, he looked and drove on. No way was he going to be able to back that van in. Yep, big comfortable truck, but that's what it is, a truck. Stupid big for most places here. And I have to say driving a Prado with a camper trailer on the back around Tassie myself, I didn't envy him one little bit trying to get that rig around.
Trx is up there ain’t it?
watch out for the diff/housing failure
Making the patriot campers flog eat his words!
If it’s so good why give it away? Are you building a 300 Ute?
Same intro on Instagram.
Shots fired
Rameater is something else....phew too much power... Hercules haha. Amazing
The American trucks eat Landcruiser's for breakfast. Why would you even bother wasting money on buying a new 200/300 or a Y62 and chopping it. Even the Ram being at the bottom of the American 2500 line up is still better then a off tap 79 or 200 not to mention Rameater. Give it 10 years and you wont even see any Landcruiser's in the bush.
"Rameater" i guess thats one way for a Ford to "take a load"....hahaha ;)
F-ing awesome
One thing the ute has more light than a football stadium lol
I want one
Patriot campers don't know anything
Fair go Mate....🤣😂🤣😂 Patriot MUST know a little about "something" to be so extremely successful.... especially these trying Covid years. 🤪😝😳😳😳
@@rosevermeersch5140 ya I agree but to say that a dodge is better than ford is ludacris i like Patriot campers channel I watch from Canada I'm not Australian but I love everything about your country
They know that winning campertrailer of the year is done with cash! 😉
This is great 😂😂
I’m crossing my fingers and toes my friends
I’d count on a ram to last longer. They don’t seem to say too many great things about the new f truck in the states.
R u kidding? Ram has been at the top of the unreliable list for decades.
Frank what are you talking about? Ram is known for poor quality for years.🤔
@@jimh.412 all American trucks are. They’re pieces of shit. F trucks were great with the 7.3, not anymore, Chev have been shit since the lbz duramax got turned into an emissions nightmare. The ram has been shit since they lost the 24v 6bt and went to the 6.7.
@@Deatomizer never seen the rear axle tube collapse under the pressure of the ubolts on a ram, or anything for that matter, have on a f truck. They’re all buckets of shit, If I were going out bush and knew there was nobody to come get me I’d be taking anything but American or euro.
Impressive