In his final moments he sacrificed himself for a girl he barely knew. He was so broken and this scene really shows how human he was and how he just needed to be loved.
@@remiokayy He was brainwashed but el reminds of his mother and he came to his real self.He was doing good career in his job eventually one day mind flayer came to him destroyed his life.
@@ggghhh1072 Not exactly. Billy was one of the few characters that tried the hardest to fight the mind flayer's control. Overall his character just didn't like being controlled. El frees him from the Mind Flayer with the flashbacks similar to how they freed Will in S2 and then he chooses to take on the mind flayer and gets rekt for it. He got possessed for being a fearless bastard to begin with, his character would've never ran from that monster.
I don't think it was so much doing it for Eleven as much as it was a "fuck you for using me to do these horrible things". Eleven just helped Billy reach the surface to overpower the Mind Flayer.
They loved each other even tho they didn't show it , billy was woried about lucas hurting max and he was sorry about how he treated her. i wish we could see more good max and billy moments 😭❤️
@@carlotamoskowitz973 ikr that’s like when my brother thinks my crush being mean to me but we’re playing cuz we were best friends Ps: we’re together now 😊
its amazing how in the end billy wasn’t afraid of anything and stared death in the eyes and yelled back at it taking all the pain and saying its still not enough to put him down. R.I.P. Billy
I don’t think billy was a villain. Like yes he was quite the piece of shit but he was a product of his upbringing. I was really hoping throughout this season he wouldn’t die because his redemption arch could have been so strong! However his act of defiance against his oppressor was powerful and I like to think of it as him standing up to his father in a way.
@@jockturner1547 It is so cool to see his “single tear” fall down his face in his scenes now. You know that Billy’s soul is still alive, inside of MF (Vecna/One/MF) because he “consumes” them. They don’t “die”. So Billy’s soul is trapped in the MF in the upside down. That’s why when Vecna still tries to use him as an image, his projection is always crying. It’s Billy’s soul shining through the meat puppet.
@@Shattered-Glass_Fan correct. Energy cannot be created nor destroyed. Vecna took the power of the upside downs MF and made found a way to hone its power in his favor. Vecna cannot possess minds as he was Number 001. He can only do that as Vecna in the upside down. Thanks to the MF.
@@jrvbamafan1 and how many shows had you seen Millie Bobby Brown (or any of the kids, for that matter), before Stranger Things? But I'm sure you don't go around calling all of them "underrated" actors, amirite? I love it when you call me a "tryhard smartass" then proceed to act exactly the same with your shitty retort. Congratulatioms on being not only a tryhard smartass yourself but also a hypocrite
@@noatiendoboludos being on stranger things doesn't mean they're immediately famous and have the recognition they deserve. finn and millie are the most known and popular by a long shot among the entire cast. not even noah got enough praise for his acting on s1 and s2 even if will is a pivotal character. you didn't need to be rude. sadie doesn't get the recognition she deserves, it's that simple.
Can we just talk about the sheer strength of Billy? Because at that point Billy was free from the mind flayers control and was using his human strength to hold off a 50 foot monster what a badass RIP.
omggg yes i always said the mind flayer did a good job choosing billy bc of how strong he is from all the weight lifting etc. even the scene at the pool where him and el where fighting he put up a good fight and could’ve killed her if mike didn’t infer
This is why the Mind Flayer chose him as Will's successor as its vessel. Will was weak, small, and an outcast, whereas Billy was strong, charismatic, and popular. The Mind Flayer almost won by using Billy
To be fair the monster was just using its tongue. Try pushing against a plate with your tongue you don’t have your general strength. Probably i think even weaker than using your pinky to push against something
@@alceusrydan6237no your wrong the monster uses it little mouth like in alien and you best believe that shit had strength behind, look at how hard Billy was struggling, and since he cause easily bench 225 that monster was pushing back at like 500 lbs 😮
Billy was the only character in the entire show who single handedly kept the Mind Flayer's mouth pushed back with his bare hands and physical strength. Even Eleven couldn't do it easily.
Billy dying was a wake up call for many. We hated his guts because of his abusing ways. Then we realized that he was a broken individual who lost the one thing that brought happiness. Now, instead of a redeeming storyline, we got a redeeming final moment
The way Billy screams in defiance in the face of assured death, knowing this is it the end of the road, is just chilling. No fear in his eyes only Malice and defiance for this creature that dared to control him and use him to carry out atrocities.
@@mapledemon5601 Honestly I'm not sure what's up with shallow people like you. You clearly don't possess any intellectual depth. Why do you watch this show or anything about it?
The scene when Mike and Lucas want to quickly end a D&D campaign, Mike says: "I'll use my torch to set fire to the chambers, sacrificing ourselves, killing the jujus, and saving the Khuisar". Two heroes who sacrificed themselves in order to beat the evil monsters and save the world. This is exactly what happened.
And after all, In the very first episode, Will rolled a 7 on the dice and he was gone for seven days, right before he biked home he told mike “The Demogorgon got me” and after that the creature kidnapped him. Dungeons and dragons are basically their lives
Stranger Things: *gets us to hate billy for the whole series* Also Stranger Things: *gets us to love billy then kill him after 15 seconds of finally understanding his troubles*
I think the reason why he didn't like Lucas is because he probably thought Lucas was hurting her/abusing her or something,I think that at the end of the day he did truely care about Max
Seriously, Stranger Things seems to be that one show that seems to have linkage everywhere, absolutely amazing production. We needed more Max & Billy bigtime but there you go :/
lol Billy absolutely deserved this. All you people jerking Billy off is embarrassing. He nearly ran over those kids in the last season. Y’all just like him cause he got them abs haha
My girlfriend cried watching this. Whole season 2 she hated billys guts, wishing he died. Whole season 3 she was so afraid and scared of him, I had to watch out for billy in the evening. But during this scene, she cried. Genuinely. Made me realize how good season 3 actually was.
I don’t think billy ever would have ever forgiven himself for the things he did. His character did the last thing he could to make right his wrongs. A beautiful last act of selflessness.
Cosmic Flames but there is a chance theta he could survive. An extremely small chance but still a chance but when he got stabbed in the heart it was game over
I hadn't sobbed so hard in a long time. The sheer, simple beauty of an alienated son remembering the life-breathing beauty of his mother's love, and how that love then provided the power and courage to sacrifice himself for a greater cause ... simply beautiful.
Ok ok when i saw this scene it literally jerked and forced tears out of meh eyeballz to just Max’s reaction tho poor billy he never meant to be mean he just had a rough life :(
@@0kk812 that's one way to look at it, but Billy was a jerk because his dad was abusive. I'm not saying that justfiys his actions in season 2, but throughout season 3,we could see Billy didnt like what the mind flayer was making him do, like when the tear rolled down his face in episode 6. And its sad that he died for three reasons. 1, I'm sure he would have changed after that whole experience, 2, he died saving Eleven, and 3, we got to see he wasn't truly a douche in his final moments. So yeah, sure he didnt have this huge character arc, but I think its different than just " a punk being killed."
I'm so glad they had a Billy cameo in season 4. Hands down my most relatable and favorite character. Wish he could've stuck around. Character development would've been out of this world.
I'm probably not the only one, but I was not expecting Billy to end up saving Eleven and her friends in the end. Despite how badly he'd treated everyone prior to this and becoming an abuser like his father, there was still some good left in him and he ended up redeeming himself.
Billy Started off as an asshole, Ended as a hero. Hopper Started off as just a single ordinary sheriff, Edit: he's alive apparently, jeez. I want to replace this with Bob the stepdad. Perfection.
I’ve thought about Billy’s death and I think it has a lot of symbolism towards the relationship he had with his father. His father always controlled him just like the mindflayer and when he was young he couldn’t defend his mom from his abusive father. So in a lot of ways this was his opportunity to defend somebody good like his mother. Especially because Eleven gave billy memories of his mother he might not have had anymore. Billy stood up to the mindflayer like he never could his dad before and I think it’s great. I wonder if the Duffer brothers meant to write it like that or if I’m reaching a bit ? 😀 PS: There is a scene in season 2 when Billy is fighting Steve and he says “Nobody tells me what to do!”. Which supports my theory even more, he didn’t want anyone or anything telling him what to do. Including his father OR the mindflayer. 😂
@@hoopz66 It wasn't just physical abuse, it was mental as well. Billy was so scared of his dad that by the time he was strong enough to defend himself, he was too scared to actually use his strength against him.
Billy was by far my favorite character in the end of season 3. He was such a tragic character. Him and his mother were abused by his father and his mother wasnt in the picture anymore. All he wanted was to be loved and understood.
It doesn’t show, but as Billy’s dying and Max quickly runs towards him, he says he’s sorry before he eventually dies. What I think is unique about his last words, however, is the obvious and underlying apology hidden within it. His apology shows his regret over what he had done over the course of the season as well as how he treated Max and the other kids in the past. His whole character which was made familiar had changed in those final moments of his passing. Billy was introduced as a cocky, bossy, flashy, womanizing douchebag throughout season 2 and it had seemed like his character would just continue to remain that way. Then comes season 3 which showcases Billy for what he actually is: a boy who never felt any fatherly affection who also lost his mother who abandoned him. Witnessing the backstory and the inner vulnerability of Billy is what makes truly makes his character stand out from the cliche jerk in movies and shows. His sacrifice to save Eleven and share his last moments with his little sister is what makes Billy’s character arc complete. He went from being a arrogant teen from California to becoming the host and tool of the Mind Flayer, leading multiple people to also become mindless killers, to finally overcoming the monster that possessed him and become the unlikely savior of Eleven. He died knowing his final action was heroic and one he did on his own free will. RIP Billy.
I really really wanted him and Max's last moments together to be more loving though. Until his sacrifice, their last interaction was him backhanding her into a wall. Like maybe once he breaks free from the Mindflayer, he looks back to her and says the "I'm sorry" then. In a comforting but reassuring way that let's her really know he wasn't a monster. His whole arc this season was cold and brutal and I just wish his last moments with her weren't.
Dude I’d grow up wishing I could have a death that meaningful and badass. Dude threw hands with a inter-dimensional god and lasted more than a second. If Valhalla was a real place, that dude would be laying warrior babes like crazy.
Just the moment Billy gets his mind back he takes one look at the mind flare and eleven and he knows exactly what’s going on and what he needs to do. The acting is just amazing.
I think that’s the case bc otherwise it’s pointless to show billy looking at his double and plus they didn’t show him coming out of the upside down I’m p sure so
@@Eviepreppy He’s about the shot itself due to the cinematography not because of the death scene that happened afterwards you stupid fuck! Think before you type pathetic words out that just make you look like an embarrassment
@@DarkHorseDanny from a general context you may be correct but that’s a very harsh and mean way to put it. They didn’t say something so vile for you to call them a “stupid fuck.” Relax.
The shot at 1:30 is spectacular. In the background, you see the mall lights flickering at a constant rate, and fire burning after the kids threw the fireworks. All while the spider monster has impaled Billy with its mouth arms(?). It also shows how much larger the spider monster is in this situation than we previously saw. Probably my favorite shot in the whole season.
(Spoilers for Season 4) The way Billy looks from behind also gives me huge Vecna vibes. Maybe The Mind Flayer is gonna betray his own creator in Season 5? IDK.
But then again if they would’ve done that it would’ve beat Steve redemption arc because to me billy this season stole the show Like the emotional the trauma him trying to warn the kids that he’s not in his right state of mind him trying to protect mrs wheeler him saving el him saying sorry to max Beautiful arc
He stole the show because he’s a really good actor and a good character he deserves it maybe they just killed him off because other actors were afraid of him. I heard Steve was popular with the producers and the directors
The complexities in this scene alone is insanely deep. Billy was a buff dude and very intimidating, but the only person he feared was his father, and so all that anger he has, it feels like he can only take it out on the people he thinks “weaker” than him (max, Steve, Lucas, etc…). His only form of control is when he’s the aggressor on someone else smaller than him, as being abused by his dad are his only moments when he doesn’t feel in control. So in this scene, when he decides to stare a giant monster in the face and stop it from killing El, he’s taking back his control in those last few seconds and using his strength for good instead of destruction. You see a persons true colors in their final moments, and underneath all the pain and hate, you see that he was never truly evil. Just a product of tragedy and abuse.
I always loved billy, even before this moment, i knew he was broken and i could relate to him a lot as someone with a broken home growing up, his death hurt me so much
I know this is unrelated but the one scene when will is in castle Byers then tears it down, it broke my heart and put me in my feels, he accepted he can’t be a kid anymore and is growing up and has to move on with life because he’s changing, hit me right in the feels because I’m there in my life right now
xJ_ Rx hell yeah man I could relate to him.....I’m 28 years old ima big ass kid but he relates to me so much.....I realized that now as I man after watchin the show and seeing what he went thru to him finally maturing and realizing he’s not a kid nomore....it def pushes me now....but it’s never too late.....
Morg 1330 right I believe he was taken bc if you remember correctly even if you get exploded by the machine your pile of flesh remains and there was no sign of flesh or blood I think he tried to escape and ended running into the Russians on the way out. Then was taken back bc they wouldn’t have put that end sene just to show us a one of the dogs was alive I think the America was hopper
Billy’s such a tragic character. Saw his mom abused by his father and Billy became the very thing he hated (his father). When Eleven reminded him of who he truly was, a protector, he instantly changed. Beautiful writing. Rip Billy
I got a theory for billy, he met his infected self and he went to the upside down. His infected self was shown for the rest of the season. In conclusion, I don’t think THE BILLY is dead.
I think Hopper is alive for the following reasons: • End credit scene • Joyce closes her eyes so she never actually sees Hopper getting killed • 2:18 this awfully long black screen • 2:21 where is Hopper before the machine blew up • Eleven loses her ability to find people so she won't know that Hopper is alive Hopefully the writers bring him back because that ending did NOT do justice to Hopper's character. :/
There’s only 2 good evidence there, but I have a counter for those 2. • The end credits could be someone else, they never showed Murray after the time jump. So could the American be Murray aswell?! • Budget reasons, with all the cgi affect I’m pretty sure it’ll be difficult programming his death. It’s either that, or it’s too brutal since he’s in the closest radius of the explosion and kept it at a perfect age restriction 👌
@@yikesyikespr.9055 Doubt it's Murray but I saw people talking about it's Dr. Brenner(? believe that's how you spell his name) somehow. I think them not showing the death was still pretty... Odd. They showed the gruesome death of that Terminator Russian guy but not Hopper's? They usually show (no matter how horrid, as seen with Billy) every character death or at least their bodies. Bob, Billy, Will's fake, Barb's, Alexei... Not showing his or the remains of it is pretty odd, yeah? Also, I kinda think Eleven conveniently losing her powers is a good point. If she had them then she would have searched for him without question if she was told there was no body. Now she can't because they're just gone. Either him jumping into the Upside Down or being held by Russians seems pretty likely (more so the Upside Down part, gives 'em more of a reason to bring that back).
lupinearsenalALT he is basically next to a huge ass generator looking thing if that evaporated the scientist most likely it would have obliterated him since he was the closest one but i will not be shocked if theres fucking plot armor if he is alive
@@yikesyikespr.9055 Your second reason doesn't make sense at all, it is simply that they must have forgotten that hopper was near the machine in that shoot, because more important was that the blast stopped
i’ve seen people say billy’s arc was a waste because we never got to see him redeem himself but i think him dying when he did and showing his true colours in his final moments makes his character so much more tragic and interesting, it also validates max’s desire to be friends with him
He died like a superhero, but still don't get the importance which he truly deserve, I mean atleast his funeral should've shown to give a bandage on those heart which got broken after his death. In second season I used to hate Billy, but in season 3 I realised that villains are not born they are made, RIP Billy.
In his final moments he sacrificed himself for a girl he barely knew. He was so broken and this scene really shows how human he was and how he just needed to be loved.
He was tortured in the past
He was tortured in the past by his abusive father
@@remiokayy He was brainwashed but el reminds of his mother and he came to his real self.He was doing good career in his job eventually one day mind flayer came to him destroyed his life.
@@ggghhh1072 Not exactly. Billy was one of the few characters that tried the hardest to fight the mind flayer's control. Overall his character just didn't like being controlled. El frees him from the Mind Flayer with the flashbacks similar to how they freed Will in S2 and then he chooses to take on the mind flayer and gets rekt for it. He got possessed for being a fearless bastard to begin with, his character would've never ran from that monster.
I don't think it was so much doing it for Eleven as much as it was a "fuck you for using me to do these horrible things". Eleven just helped Billy reach the surface to overpower the Mind Flayer.
What gets me the most is how much progress his character made in just a moment and i legit cried because of this scene
I love your picture, dude🖤👏
Maddie Herb thank youuu 💗💗💗
Not this scene alone though. The flashbacks were pretty strong, too.
I just finished I was crying too I think I didn't cry for hopper because it was too quick
The Mugman and Foxy channel I finished in 12 hours. I don’t regret a single one.
When Max screamed “BILLY!” After he died. Even though he treated her like garbage since they’d first met, she still couldn’t bear to see him die
At the end he did say sorry after he died
Okay kourtney kardasim
Ikr it,s so sad
They loved each other even tho they didn't show it , billy was woried about lucas hurting max and he was sorry about how he treated her. i wish we could see more good max and billy moments 😭❤️
@@carlotamoskowitz973 ikr that’s like when my brother thinks my crush being mean to me but we’re playing cuz we were best friends
Ps: we’re together now 😊
1:35 That scream gives me chills. He's basically saying "you may kill me but you will never control my mind again!"
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"you may have invaded my mind and my body, but theres one thing a saiyan always keeps, HIS PRIDEEEE!!!!"-prince vegeta
@@tripps1550 lol
He didn’t want that thing killing Max which is another thing that helped him break through I think.
i love how billy just screams in the mind flayer’s face, he finally gains the courage to stand up to something stronger than him
No one is stronger than billy🔥🔥
Billy has no fear 🔥🔥
@@stew-03 the only fear billy has is losing a loved one.
@@stew-03 his father, yeah
@@xswagb and his dad
Just like the joker said in the dark knight:
“In their last moments, people show you who they really are” - as did billy in his final moments. 😔
yeah and iron man in endgame
"You Either Die A Hero, Or You Live Long Enough To See Yourself Become The Villain"
Natalia Burnsed true u must be a fan _~~_
Max just sees her brother getting killed it's so sad and she's heart breaking
why are we using the joker as a reference
its amazing how in the end billy wasn’t afraid of anything and stared death in the eyes and yelled back at it taking all the pain and saying its still not enough to put him down. R.I.P. Billy
Billy's actually alive. He was trapped in the upside down. There are two Billys and the possessed one was NOT in the upside down.
@@nataliejones8308 it been confirmed that Billy is dead dead. Like he ain’t coming back
@B 15 Cleo Pera sorry?
There were two Billy's in the upside down. A possessed one, and a normal one. So in season 4 we could see the fake billy
@@worlz_.shoxhri no that’s not how that works lol
Every villain had a sad story to tell. Billy was the perfect example for this...
I don’t think billy was a villain. Like yes he was quite the piece of shit but he was a product of his upbringing. I was really hoping throughout this season he wouldn’t die because his redemption arch could have been so strong! However his act of defiance against his oppressor was powerful and I like to think of it as him standing up to his father in a way.
@@jockturner1547 It is so cool to see his “single tear” fall down his face in his scenes now. You know that Billy’s soul is still alive, inside of MF (Vecna/One/MF) because he “consumes” them. They don’t “die”. So Billy’s soul is trapped in the MF in the upside down. That’s why when Vecna still tries to use him as an image, his projection is always crying. It’s Billy’s soul shining through the meat puppet.
@@ANamaky-o6s vecna isn't/ didn't make the mf, he only made its form.
What are you talking about villain.
@@Shattered-Glass_Fan correct. Energy cannot be created nor destroyed. Vecna took the power of the upside downs MF and made found a way to hone its power in his favor. Vecna cannot possess minds as he was Number 001. He can only do that as Vecna in the upside down. Thanks to the MF.
This is why Sadie is such an underrated actor. You can just see the pure fear, pain, and disbelief in her face after realizing what Billy's doing.
Yeah sure underrated actress
Getting a role in one of Netflix's most famous shows
So underrated amirite
@@noatiendoboludos how many shows had you seen her in before this one? Always got to be some tryhard smartass on here.....amirite?
@@jrvbamafan1 and how many shows had you seen Millie Bobby Brown (or any of the kids, for that matter), before Stranger Things? But I'm sure you don't go around calling all of them "underrated" actors, amirite?
I love it when you call me a "tryhard smartass" then proceed to act exactly the same with your shitty retort. Congratulatioms on being not only a tryhard smartass yourself but also a hypocrite
@@noatiendoboludos being on stranger things doesn't mean they're immediately famous and have the recognition they deserve. finn and millie are the most known and popular by a long shot among the entire cast. not even noah got enough praise for his acting on s1 and s2 even if will is a pivotal character. you didn't need to be rude. sadie doesn't get the recognition she deserves, it's that simple.
Its not that impressive really
Max's freaking scream is what made me break down sobbing
Ikrrr
Maggie McCauslin me too 😭
I literally cried from everything going on then 😭
What about Eleven's speach
Irene Maria Ruiz Solano oh i cried then too 😭
Billy was the Vegeta of this show. Amazing performance from Dacre. Hope his career explodes from this point on.
I agree and Steve was like the piccolo . How do you kill off such an iconic anti hero in billy? I don’t get it
@@silversauceran It's the typical douche of every american movie...
Vegeta blowing up Majin Buu for everyone
Don't worry ya'll, Billy will return for Power Rangers 2 :)
100% agree
Can we just talk about the sheer strength of Billy? Because at that point Billy was free from the mind flayers control and was using his human strength to hold off a 50 foot monster what a badass RIP.
omggg yes i always said the mind flayer did a good job choosing billy bc of how strong he is from all the weight lifting etc. even the scene at the pool where him and el where fighting he put up a good fight and could’ve killed her if mike didn’t infer
This is why the Mind Flayer chose him as Will's successor as its vessel. Will was weak, small, and an outcast, whereas Billy was strong, charismatic, and popular. The Mind Flayer almost won by using Billy
To be fair the monster was just using its tongue. Try pushing against a plate with your tongue you don’t have your general strength. Probably i think even weaker than using your pinky to push against something
Billy was a barbarian
@@alceusrydan6237no your wrong the monster uses it little mouth like in alien and you best believe that shit had strength behind, look at how hard Billy was struggling, and since he cause easily bench 225 that monster was pushing back at like 500 lbs 😮
You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain
Billy became a villain, but ultimately died a hero
Dark knight 😜✌🏿
@@ydggfccck wut
No. Losarnoo ie
Cody Higinbotham I mean he technically saved all the kids especially eleven when she was getting weaker
Tania Ramgoolam what about star wars? Darth vader did be a good boy
Billy was the only character in the entire show who single handedly kept the Mind Flayer's mouth pushed back with his bare hands and physical strength. Even Eleven couldn't do it easily.
He’s literally the red power ranger LOL
@@evann1226 Well... You're not wrong
@@RetiredFBIAgent literally
He’s like a stronger infinity war captain America cuz thanos isn’t even a quarter of billys killers strength
I heard somewhere that if you’re in a live or death situation, you get abnormally stronger. A Lady once lifted a car to save her son.
Billy dying was a wake up call for many. We hated his guts because of his abusing ways. Then we realized that he was a broken individual who lost the one thing that brought happiness. Now, instead of a redeeming storyline, we got a redeeming final moment
@Mirz Adolvfon *opinion invalid. Please try again*
@Mirz Adolvfon I respect your opinion, even if I don’t fully agree with it.
@Mirz Adolvfon 👌
He's still a racist abuser. Fuck Billy. I have no sympathy for him.
Idk who we is. I loved him
They call him a traitor
But he save the village -Eddie
They call him a villain
But he was a broken hero -Billy
sorry to be negative, eddie didn't save anyone, he just wanted to prove he wasn't a coward and now he's gone.
@@safcjoe7062 ye
@@safcjoe7062 eddie will be back in season 5
@@safcjoe7062 bruh he literally closed the upside down gate when Dustin jumped
@@Arcanomist ye as a vampire:)
The way Billy screams in defiance in the face of assured death, knowing this is it the end of the road, is just chilling. No fear in his eyes only Malice and defiance for this creature that dared to control him and use him to carry out atrocities.
Best comment I’ve seen here.
Chills up the spine.
My exact thought process when he roared back at it!!
Ngl but it's just a normal character death and I personally just don't feel it
This isn’t high school film analysis
@@mapledemon5601
Honestly I'm not sure what's up with shallow people like you.
You clearly don't possess any intellectual depth.
Why do you watch this show or anything about it?
If your name begins with a "B" on this show, you're dead. Benny: Dead, Barb: Dead, Bob: Dead, Billy: Dead.
But why Alexei?$?!?!? 😢😢😢😭😭😭😭😭😂
@@cassandrakrauss3698 lol so true
@@cassandrakrauss3698
He was killed by a human being 😂😂
@@hanaahmed7039 yea so was benny
I forgot her name, But I think it was Becky/Betty, that was the sister of Terry Ives, aka Eleven's mom, so could that mean she will die?
If it wasn’t for Susie’s damn begging and singing maybe they would still be alive
Yes
right they need to go to Utah and beat her ass for wasting their time lol
HOPPER COULD BE ON THAT GODDAMN DATE SUZIE!
BILLY COULDVE FIGURED OUT THAT THE HAIR WASNT GOOD SUZIE!
DUMP HER ASS, DUSTIN
@@exactly4615 She didnt believe tht shit of saving the world
Jesus kids she was just fucking around
ItzPepe X YEAH
Billy never deserved to die, he was just a broken hero...
Billy’s scream of defiance in the face of death embodies his whole character
He didnt scream at his dad like that but he screams at death? I think he was just in pain not out of defiance or anything like that
How did i let a Yes Man change my mind. Stranger things have happened i guess
@Sean Dafny That one shot of his face at the end though, that was definitely rage.
"in the last moments, people show you who they really are."
-Joker.
“You wanna know that I copied this comment?”
-You
@@alt_f30rblx25 I'm laughing out loud😂
Or like Harvey dent said you either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become a villian.
❗LuLuland❗ stolen comment and reply shut up
Junior YT that’s cringe bro. Does anyone really care about a stolen comment?
The scene when Mike and Lucas want to quickly end a D&D campaign, Mike says: "I'll use my torch to set fire to the chambers, sacrificing ourselves, killing the jujus, and saving the Khuisar". Two heroes who sacrificed themselves in order to beat the evil monsters and save the world. This is exactly what happened.
Blu 152 nah it’s just foreshadowing
And after all, In the very first episode, Will rolled a 7 on the dice and he was gone for seven days, right before he biked home he told mike “The Demogorgon got me” and after that the creature kidnapped him. Dungeons and dragons are basically their lives
And zombies attacked them in d&d, and guess what the mindflayer is made out of "zombies?".
@@learf6613 So the question is, when does the D&D campaign end?
A. Diallo It doesn’t matter when it ends, it matters *how* it ends
No one talking about how he was pushing back a freaking 50ft monster and winning for a second
Cause he didnt pushed back, he hold its "tongue", not the whole body
@@Willian774 who cares that was heroric
He must’ve been strong
Bro was too op that he had to be killed off
@@ashtonjake2443 man must’ve had the rose skim on
Stranger Things: *gets us to hate billy for the whole series*
Also Stranger Things: *gets us to love billy then kill him after 15 seconds of finally understanding his troubles*
International Kook it is his fault, but not all his fault him abusing Max is wrong and he should be held accountable but his dad is also to blame
i know right ?
Idk as soon as I saw the abusive dad scene from season 2 a few years ago I started to empathize with him and really didn't hate him anymore.
OutlawStar Joseph was he abusing max or just being a dick?
I think the reason why he didn't like Lucas is because he probably thought Lucas was hurting her/abusing her or something,I think that at the end of the day he did truely care about Max
Billy's scream in the end proofs, that he don't afraid him anymore...
ikr
Ik 😭
I just had a stroke tf do you mean with the last part
he never afraid him no more
Where did the grammar go
Do you know why Billy could hold off the Mindflayer for so long?
BECAUSE HE PLANTED HIS GOD DAMN FEET!
TheBattProductions favorite comment by far
Why this comment got no likes its fucking amazing
Seriously, Stranger Things seems to be that one show that seems to have linkage everywhere, absolutely amazing production.
We needed more Max & Billy bigtime but there you go :/
I think this might be my favorite comment ever.
Omg that is the best comment
How a character went from being the most hated to the most loved in less than a minute.
surprisingly Billy's death was the first time i cried watching stranger things.
Same here
Same
*sOb* samE
Same
Same
Billy didn’t deserve this, he deserved someone who cares about him
Uuuhh max cared about smh
Bruh Moment yeah other than max
lol Billy absolutely deserved this. All you people jerking Billy off is embarrassing. He nearly ran over those kids in the last season. Y’all just like him cause he got them abs haha
Main deaths of each season
S1: Barb
S2: Bob
S3: Billy.
All start with B
B
What about alexie
@@xxstranger._.thingsxx1303 ikr
@@xxstranger._.thingsxx1303 " Main death "
@Ivana Grizelj Main death .
My girlfriend cried watching this. Whole season 2 she hated billys guts, wishing he died. Whole season 3 she was so afraid and scared of him, I had to watch out for billy in the evening. But during this scene, she cried. Genuinely. Made me realize how good season 3 actually was.
I don’t think billy ever would have ever forgiven himself for the things he did. His character did the last thing he could to make right his wrongs. A beautiful last act of selflessness.
If Billy lived, he would have been going through a hard time in season 4 and so Vecna would be tormenting him with it all
@@ryanstauffer119 agree
@@ryanstauffer119 Very true
Wait untill you see eddies death just like this.
Yea I said the same when Eddie died. If he had suvived he'd probably get killed by the town or sent to prison because he was the perfect scape goat.
Dacre Montgomery definitely deserves an Emmy for his outstanding performance 👌👌
Yes, dacre is a legend for this character. He is so good at acting, hopefully he lands another legendary character.
💯💯 he really does
You missed the perfect opportunity to say something as if you were the real Billy like "Those sucking hands were really getting on my nerves"!!!
Stranger Things fans are fucking ridiculous 🤣
Billy I thought I watched you die😦😦😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Billy: gets stabbed 7 times in the stomach, lungs, kidneys, etc
Max:.................
Billy :gets stabbed in the heart
Max:BILLYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!
Lol
@Yahyeeet how would he survive when litterally most of his organs have holes
Yahyeeet true but he had 7 holes in his chest
Cosmic Flames but there is a chance theta he could survive. An extremely small chance but still a chance but when he got stabbed in the heart it was game over
U beat me to this comment lol
Billy is so brave!😢 He even screamed like he was gonna get a power.
I hadn't sobbed so hard in a long time.
The sheer, simple beauty of an alienated son remembering the life-breathing beauty of his mother's love, and how that love then provided the power and courage to sacrifice himself for a greater cause ... simply beautiful.
Same ;-;
If she really loved him , she would've stayed with him or would've taken him with her
His mom's a selfish bitch
We all know we didn’t like billy.. but when this scene came on and he sacrificed himself for el it all made us have a least 1 tear in our eyes..
Fricking bucket load of tears for me😂
BalaDeeJay45 me 2 😂 and im still sad
I loved Billy, I never cry, and let me just tell you this.... I cried my eyes out for a couple of hours
I'm the only one who liked him and before his death?😂
BalaDeeJay45 lemme put my tears in a bucket, so when i jump from a cliff in Minecraft, at least i can slap my tears and land safely
I really wanted to see Steve and Billy fight side by side, at least in one scene. The two badasses !!!
*ahem ahem* jonathan *ahem ahem*
Steve was watching Billy die I wish they showed his reactions at least
Two? Billy annnd....?.???...?
Steve is garbage though 🗑 😂 lol
Kshad Music you are a lying bitch
Honestly 1:43 made me cry because even tho billy treated max like shit she still screamed "BILLY!!" it was the most heart breaking scene ☹️😞
Never thought I'd be balling my eyes out over of Billy's death.
Can’t Joyce Byers get a break
Omar Venegas i said the same thing my girl lost both her men in in almost the same year
she got over bob and now hopper? 😢
Omar Venegas ikr
She just wanted to know what was happening to her magnets
Fuck her she’s annoying
His final war cry gave me chills.
Same
yeah,shows hom much of a fighter he was
fr his scream is godly
BRO IT DOES EVERYTIME
Billy’s scream was powerful, he stood up to something stronger than him and his own father
Good on you Billy, RIP
Ok ok when i saw this scene it literally jerked and forced tears out of meh eyeballz to just Max’s reaction tho poor billy he never meant to be mean he just had a rough life :(
This was the saddest part in the whole show
So far...
How billy is a complete jerk
@Draifu fair enough but still it wasn't even sad just a punk getting killed
@@0kk812 that's one way to look at it, but Billy was a jerk because his dad was abusive. I'm not saying that justfiys his actions in season 2, but throughout season 3,we could see Billy didnt like what the mind flayer was making him do, like when the tear rolled down his face in episode 6. And its sad that he died for three reasons. 1, I'm sure he would have changed after that whole experience, 2, he died saving Eleven, and 3, we got to see he wasn't truly a douche in his final moments. So yeah, sure he didnt have this huge character arc, but I think its different than just " a punk being killed."
Don’t forget Bob.
I'm so glad they had a Billy cameo in season 4. Hands down my most relatable and favorite character. Wish he could've stuck around. Character development would've been out of this world.
I don't think they wanted another Steve Harringtonesque character
@@dot3889 Fuck off he's nothing like Steve's character. He was the Marlon Brando of stranger things.
@@_MyNameIsAJ_ You don't fight interdimensional Demons on a daily basis?
That not what cameos are bro.
@@james9592 I think he confused cameo with character
I'm probably not the only one, but I was not expecting Billy to end up saving Eleven and her friends in the end. Despite how badly he'd treated everyone prior to this and becoming an abuser like his father, there was still some good left in him and he ended up redeeming himself.
Billy
Started off as an asshole,
Ended as a hero.
Hopper
Started off as just a single ordinary sheriff,
Edit: he's alive apparently, jeez. I want to replace this with Bob the stepdad.
Perfection.
@Lord Admiral Spire nope he is working as a slave for the Russians
@Lord Admiral Spire you said he is in the upside down, read your comments bruh
In the post credit scene of Season 3 finale, there is mention of an American prisoner in the Russian base. That prisoner should be Hopper.
You know who would make a good dad?
S t e v e
Steve
Was an asshole in the beginning
Now is a mother of teenage children
Everything is possible
I’ve thought about Billy’s death and I think it has a lot of symbolism towards the relationship he had with his father. His father always controlled him just like the mindflayer and when he was young he couldn’t defend his mom from his abusive father. So in a lot of ways this was his opportunity to defend somebody good like his mother. Especially because Eleven gave billy memories of his mother he might not have had anymore.
Billy stood up to the mindflayer like he never could his dad before and I think it’s great. I wonder if the Duffer brothers meant to write it like that or if I’m reaching a bit ? 😀
PS: There is a scene in season 2 when Billy is fighting Steve and he says “Nobody tells me what to do!”. Which supports my theory even more, he didn’t want anyone or anything telling him what to do. Including his father OR the mindflayer. 😂
Billy is stronger then his dad even without being flayed. Idk why he didn’t try defending himself
@@hoopz66 It wasn't just physical abuse, it was mental as well. Billy was so scared of his dad that by the time he was strong enough to defend himself, he was too scared to actually use his strength against him.
@@A.S._Trunks I love Billy because of that. He built up huge strength to help himself out
I agree this season really showed Billy's character and his Redemption
They probably didnt think about it that deep 💀💀💀 its a fucking show about monsters hopping dimensions
anyone: you can’t just become the best character if you’ve done a lot of of shitty things!
billy: *observe*
Nah, if he was still alive he'd just be another problem next season.
Meanwhile professor snape reading ur comment in heaven
@@diveshramphull8690 snape is well written character but not very likeable, just like umbridge.
Anakin: This is where the fun begins
@@Ckrost Didn’t he like sacrifice himself and shit
I didn’t cry when billy died, but when Max screamed “billy!” My heart shattered and I literally started bawling
Billy was by far my favorite character in the end of season 3. He was such a tragic character. Him and his mother were abused by his father and his mother wasnt in the picture anymore. All he wanted was to be loved and understood.
The monsters are Aliens?
@@luisclaudio3576 no
Turns out my sacrifice was a cancer fart I'm not even dead says Billie haha 😂 I'm fine guys tell Sam that my entire sacrifice was a fart
@@mathewnorth9074 what an interesting comment.
No clue where such an eccentric response would have come from. Lol
That’s the sad part
It doesn’t show, but as Billy’s dying and Max quickly runs towards him, he says he’s sorry before he eventually dies. What I think is unique about his last words, however, is the obvious and underlying apology hidden within it. His apology shows his regret over what he had done over the course of the season as well as how he treated Max and the other kids in the past. His whole character which was made familiar had changed in those final moments of his passing.
Billy was introduced as a cocky, bossy, flashy, womanizing douchebag throughout season 2 and it had seemed like his character would just continue to remain that way. Then comes season 3 which showcases Billy for what he actually is: a boy who never felt any fatherly affection who also lost his mother who abandoned him. Witnessing the backstory and the inner vulnerability of Billy is what makes truly makes his character stand out from the cliche jerk in movies and shows.
His sacrifice to save Eleven and share his last moments with his little sister is what makes Billy’s character arc complete. He went from being a arrogant teen from California to becoming the host and tool of the Mind Flayer, leading multiple people to also become mindless killers, to finally overcoming the monster that possessed him and become the unlikely savior of Eleven. He died knowing his final action was heroic and one he did on his own free will.
RIP Billy.
He's like the Tony stark of stranger things
I really really wanted him and Max's last moments together to be more loving though. Until his sacrifice, their last interaction was him backhanding her into a wall.
Like maybe once he breaks free from the Mindflayer, he looks back to her and says the "I'm sorry" then. In a comforting but reassuring way that let's her really know he wasn't a monster.
His whole arc this season was cold and brutal and I just wish his last moments with her weren't.
Wow it’s almost like we both watched the same fucking show
I think that Billy standing up against the mind flayer was more a Fck u no one controls me, not so much trying to be a hero
too quick for my liking.
the little nod after el says “she was really pretty” gets me so bad every time😭
I was really waiting for her to say that as well
Billy, just as Doc Ock, "I won't die a monster"; nothing but respect for him and his redemption...
Goddamn I felt bad for Billy.
All cuz he happened to be driving past that steel mill that night.
All cause he wanted to smash mikes mom 😞
I'm just some Canadian guy and I say Well, his father abused him.
Seth Winters If they got Married ye
it was destiny, don’t feel bad, it was always going to happen
Smh. The saga continues...
Imagine seeing your big brother die like this poor max
Dude I’d grow up wishing I could have a death that meaningful and badass. Dude threw hands with a inter-dimensional god and lasted more than a second. If Valhalla was a real place, that dude would be laying warrior babes like crazy.
Half I think
@Adventures With Oliver ItS mAX!
poor maxine cauldfield f in the chat
Like big brothers are supposed to
When max screams billy it always gives me goose bumps
Relax. It wasnt that impressive.
@@bobstacks8405 it’s about the tragedy of the scene bro 💀💀 you don’t always have to try your hardest to ruin other peoples opinions on the internet
@@grantgaston8360 thank you
samme
@@grantgaston8360fr
Just the moment Billy gets his mind back he takes one look at the mind flare and eleven and he knows exactly what’s going on and what he needs to do. The acting is just amazing.
It’s not “Billy’s Death”
It’s “Billy’s Redemption”
It’s “Billy’s Redemption: Oh and he also dies”
billys sacrifice
His red dead redemption
@@omarkarim2280 that's how redemption usually end bud
Billy should of said fuck you and throw the hand gesture to the monster 🖕🏽 that would of been AWESOME
I wish it was Billy’s doppelgänger who dies and the real billy was still alive in the upside down
I was hoping that was the case , we can’t just kill billy off like that 😭
Tea TV we can and we will
I think that’s the case bc otherwise it’s pointless to show billy looking at his double and plus they didn’t show him coming out of the upside down I’m p sure so
MC Studios Do you even know if billy had a doppelgänger i mean Will never had one
Maybe...
Did anyone else cry with billy and hopper’s death and then realised that Eleven didn’t have a family anymore 😔😭😔😭
Hopper is alive it is real watch s4 trailer
Joyce fucking adopted her! Did you not watch the ending!
Big Brain Productions and their Superhero Friends she took her in she didn’t adopt her
Big Brain Productions and their Superhero Friends she meant real family don't be rude
Hopper be alive
Billy’s sacrifice will never be forgotten
We deserved chemistry scenes with Max and Billy.
Y E S i NEEDED that bonding and they just threw away the fucking opportunity
At least one scene
Testra i read that as pounding
*Y e s.*
1:33 that was a nice shot looked really cool
0:35 too
Well not because Billy died
@@Eviepreppy He’s about the shot itself due to the cinematography not because of the death scene that happened afterwards you stupid fuck! Think before you type pathetic words out that just make you look like an embarrassment
@@DarkHorseDanny from a general context you may be correct but that’s a very harsh and mean way to put it. They didn’t say something so vile for you to call them a “stupid fuck.” Relax.
@@DarkHorseDanny someone's angrier than they should be, lmao
When I saw Billy standing up to that thing, I was like that is a warrior right there!
Oh that scream... as if to say that "no one tells me what to do" like he said to Steve... chilling.
I can't help but think that Billy's death was going to do something bad to max in season 4
I feel like Neil will abuse max more since billy is gone
@XvGGvXPlayz what like billy coming back from the dead to kill max or billy haunts max
@Joshua Ashley Idk lol
sing it with me folks! ♪Phycological Scarring!♪
Yes, she and Lucas going to break up to, poor Max
The shot at 1:30 is spectacular. In the background, you see the mall lights flickering at a constant rate, and fire burning after the kids threw the fireworks. All while the spider monster has impaled Billy with its mouth arms(?). It also shows how much larger the spider monster is in this situation than we previously saw. Probably my favorite shot in the whole season.
(Spoilers for Season 4)
The way Billy looks from behind also gives me huge Vecna vibes.
Maybe The Mind Flayer is gonna betray his own creator in Season 5? IDK.
@@DeviemTwen maybay
@@DeviemTwen well the mind flayer is under vecnas control so maybe
And also it shows how tough Billy was to be able to hold its attention for so long, you can all its tentacles, all his arms focused on Billy alone.
so so true
“You either die a hero or live Long enough to see yourself become the villain”
Just like an edit I saw from Elena and Katherine
In this case is the contrary
He kinda did both
Doesnt really make sense he did die a hero but he sure as hell was a villian before that
Well, this is the opposite, he either die a villain or live long enough to become a hero. In this case
This was Vecna before anyone knew, inside the show and out. I'm speechless.
Thats messed up ngl like vecna didnt existed before ST4 happened which is kinda scary if you ask me
@@randoburr5201 are you saying vecna didnt exist before s4?
@@xerzfx i mean in a way
@@randoburr5201 it been vecna since s1 what are you talking about?
@@pulse4051 well that's the point
I could tell right from his first appearance on season 2 that they would do much more with this guy’s character. RIP
I'm kinda sad he died in such a short amount of time. Only 2 seasons. But at least he died redeemed in a way
Billy's redemption arc was so beautiful.
I wish they would’ve expanded it in season 4 like him making amends to the group and Lucas
But then again if they would’ve done that it would’ve beat Steve redemption arc because to me billy this season stole the show
Like the emotional the trauma him trying to warn the kids that he’s not in his right state of mind him trying to protect mrs wheeler him saving el him saying sorry to max
Beautiful arc
Yeah he redeemed himself in under 5 minutes
He stole the show because he’s a really good actor and a good character he deserves it maybe they just killed him off because other actors were afraid of him. I heard Steve was popular with the producers and the directors
Omg I freaking cried at this scene, especially when he tells max “I’m sorry” :c
The complexities in this scene alone is insanely deep. Billy was a buff dude and very intimidating, but the only person he feared was his father, and so all that anger he has, it feels like he can only take it out on the people he thinks “weaker” than him (max, Steve, Lucas, etc…). His only form of control is when he’s the aggressor on someone else smaller than him, as being abused by his dad are his only moments when he doesn’t feel in control. So in this scene, when he decides to stare a giant monster in the face and stop it from killing El, he’s taking back his control in those last few seconds and using his strength for good instead of destruction. You see a persons true colors in their final moments, and underneath all the pain and hate, you see that he was never truly evil. Just a product of tragedy and abuse.
Good Analysis 😊
i wish there was a way that billy could have went to the hospital and gotten saved instead of dying right when he gets redeemed
He was gonna die either way since he was connected to the mind flayer
Or it could’ve killed max instead you know a better idea
When you get impaled by a hentai monster there’s no coming back
Genasiker
Underrated comment.
That wouldn't have been as impactful though, I feel like he had to die.
When Max said “BILLY!”
It hit me.
Same feelings 💞
When Dustin said “Close it” it hit me
When Billy said AaaAaaAaAAAAAAaaaHHHh
It hit me
@@ashleybatesbates4167 🤓🤓Stfu. Literally everyone in the show calls her “Max”.
We only know who we truly are a few moments before our death
- Itachi
that's deep
Itachi gang.
When did Itachi say this i dont remember that
Oh shit ! I just remembered yea he was talking to whats his name kisame i think
Anime shit again
" *every villain has their own story and arc of redemption* "
He never had anyone. The one person he loved left him to fend for himself.
That bitch of a mom of his
😤
I always loved billy, even before this moment, i knew he was broken and i could relate to him a lot as someone with a broken home growing up, his death hurt me so much
Samee too many people judge without knowing the story behind his behavior :'v
The same I miss him
Yes he didn’t deserve that it was a painful and slow death
@@Inhye233 right
@@Inhye233 he was literally racist
I know this is unrelated but the one scene when will is in castle Byers then tears it down, it broke my heart and put me in my feels, he accepted he can’t be a kid anymore and is growing up and has to move on with life because he’s changing, hit me right in the feels because I’m there in my life right now
xJ_ Rx hell yeah man I could relate to him.....I’m 28 years old ima big ass kid but he relates to me so much.....I realized that now as I man after watchin the show and seeing what he went thru to him finally maturing and realizing he’s not a kid nomore....it def pushes me now....but it’s never too late.....
I love when Billy said "No" to it. Powerful!
Rip Billy, hopper(Maybe)and alexi
Alexei*
Smirnoff
Hopper is not dead
Hopper is alive he's only in the upside down
hopper in is the russian prison 🙆♀️
I feel bad for max... I legit cried when billy died... 😭😭😭😭😭
And billy died a heroic way... 😭😭😭
Yes I know he died a Hero He Saved Eleven #ripbilly 😔
I'm sad as well, but maybe he might be on the upside down world. IDK
@@d.b.2917 don't think so
“You were moving your feet. Plant them next time. Draw and charge.” - Billy.
You trying to hurt me
It is "draw a charge"
@@wrs3004 same difference 🤷🏼♀️
@@wrs3004 still hurt my feeling regardless 😂
Let’s admit it, we cried during this scene
Obviously! But I cried more on S4 finale
He sacrificed himself to save his sister and her friends and when hopper died really heart-touched me😭😭😭❤❤💔💔
Go watch the season 4 trailer, you'll be pleasantly surprised
Hopper not dead
Ye I'm hes not dead, I knew that like months ago 😂 I knew he wasnt dead I just wanted to make myself believe that for a weird reason
Rest In Peace billy you died heroically Jim got taken by Russians or went to the upside down
Naw remember when that cannon thing explodes it disintegrates anyone near it.
No because when you looked he wasn’t on the ramp
Miles Fields also the end credit scene said not the American and hopper was/is the American
Omar Venegas because he disintegrated
Morg 1330 right I believe he was taken bc if you remember correctly even if you get exploded by the machine your pile of flesh remains and there was no sign of flesh or blood I think he tried to escape and ended running into the Russians on the way out. Then was taken back bc they wouldn’t have put that end sene just to show us a one of the dogs was alive I think the America was hopper
I cried so much when this happened. This part shows the human part of Billy that I have been waiting to see, and now I love him 1000x more.
Billy’s just built different like that… he stands up to a monster from a different dimension
Oh Maxine 😭😭💔I’m so sorry sweetie.
@GHOSTRIDER4991 lol idiot
GHOSTRIDER4991 yeah so... I still care about her! 😂
@GHOSTRIDER4991 wooosh
@@AccipiterSmith what whoosh?
@@AccipiterSmith shut up
That scene when Eleven saw how his life was before, sold me on his character and it made his death so painful....
Suzie: a neverending stOOOORYYYYYY
Hopper: GROW THE HELL UP!
Suzie- shut the hell up old man!
Erica : just tell the goddamn number already , nerd!
Will:- Can we play D&D now?
Billy is a asshole
@@marieharris4860 is the n letter in your keyboard broken lmao-
Billy’s such a tragic character. Saw his mom abused by his father and Billy became the very thing he hated (his father). When Eleven reminded him of who he truly was, a protector, he instantly changed. Beautiful writing. Rip Billy
If Billy somehow made it out of there, he would’ve finally had the family he deserved -
A family who loves and cares for him.
Nick Maxwell factssssss !!!!
Where???
If Hopper would have nodded quicker for Joyce to pull the key Billy may not have died
I got a theory for billy, he met his infected self and he went to the upside down. His infected self was shown for the rest of the season. In conclusion, I don’t think THE BILLY is dead.
Nick Is Awesome I blame Susie because the bitch wanted to sing a damn song and waste everyone’s time.
I think Hopper is alive for the following reasons:
• End credit scene
• Joyce closes her eyes so she never actually sees Hopper getting killed
• 2:18 this awfully long black screen
• 2:21 where is Hopper before the machine blew up
• Eleven loses her ability to find people so she won't know that Hopper is alive
Hopefully the writers bring him back because that ending did NOT do justice to Hopper's character. :/
There’s only 2 good evidence there, but I have a counter for those 2.
• The end credits could be someone else, they never showed Murray after the time jump. So could the American be Murray aswell?!
• Budget reasons, with all the cgi affect I’m pretty sure it’ll be difficult programming his death. It’s either that, or it’s too brutal since he’s in the closest radius of the explosion and kept it at a perfect age restriction 👌
@@yikesyikespr.9055 Doubt it's Murray but I saw people talking about it's Dr. Brenner(? believe that's how you spell his name) somehow.
I think them not showing the death was still pretty... Odd. They showed the gruesome death of that Terminator Russian guy but not Hopper's? They usually show (no matter how horrid, as seen with Billy) every character death or at least their bodies. Bob, Billy, Will's fake, Barb's, Alexei... Not showing his or the remains of it is pretty odd, yeah?
Also, I kinda think Eleven conveniently losing her powers is a good point. If she had them then she would have searched for him without question if she was told there was no body. Now she can't because they're just gone.
Either him jumping into the Upside Down or being held by Russians seems pretty likely (more so the Upside Down part, gives 'em more of a reason to bring that back).
lupinearsenalALT he is basically next to a huge ass generator looking thing if that evaporated the scientist most likely it would have obliterated him since he was the closest one but i will not be shocked if theres fucking plot armor if he is alive
@@yikesyikespr.9055 Nooo Murray walked out with Joyce I saw that, the American troops had arrived and Murray was safe
@@yikesyikespr.9055 Your second reason doesn't make sense at all, it is simply that they must have forgotten that hopper was near the machine in that shoot, because more important was that the blast stopped
i’ve seen people say billy’s arc was a waste because we never got to see him redeem himself but i think him dying when he did and showing his true colours in his final moments makes his character so much more tragic and interesting, it also validates max’s desire to be friends with him
Fax 😢
He died like a superhero, but still don't get the importance which he truly deserve, I mean atleast his funeral should've shown to give a bandage on those heart which got broken after his death. In second season I used to hate Billy, but in season 3 I realised that villains are not born they are made, RIP Billy.