Oddball Beginner Motorcycle Tier List (Sleeper Hits)
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Here in Italy the benelli trk501 is the only bike outselling the gs 1250 and the 1250 gsa. I don’t like it, but it’s the most sold one right now.
And there’s me got a Harley 48 as my first bike bc my dad told me it be great but he only told me to get so he could ride it
Something I’ve learned when it comes to bikes and anything related you shouldn’t listen to your dad bruh unless you know he knows what he’s talking about 💀😭
There's no way you got finessed like this, that's a darwin award
@@MrPimpmygun bro he doesn’t have a linces last time he road was back in Brasil before we is 2010 so I went go my linces b4 him and literally my instructor said don’t get a 1000+ cc bike as your first you going to die in 2 hours I bought the Harley
@NOOBS REVIEWS they are great bikes everyone should get at least the sportster but I’m giving him that bike and buying an Indian scout for ke
🤣😂🤣😂🤣can I adopt you!🤷♂️🤣😂🤣😂
i've got my first two years riding under my belt. on my RE Himalayan, excellent city bike. thing is a mule, it's not fast, never will be. but it's a capable bike. relatively cheap... and has ABS. dirt easy to work on/perform maint or mod. to me, looks cool. I get asked about it fairly often, and the small community of RE himi riders is extremely helpful and enthusiastic. I'll prob put another year or two on it... upgrade to a Ten700 but can't recommend it enough as a beginner bike
I own three bikes, my Himalayan was the second I bought most recently (I’ve owned probably 9-10) I keep it because I don’t need my off-road bike to be fast. It gets 65-70mpg and is great for off-road or short grocery runs. I use it as a commuter mostly and it’s awesome for it. Plus as you probably know, parts are so cheap and easy to fix. My sportster and softtail are way more expensive to maintain and while much higher quality built wise, are an entirely different experience.
I've put 10k on my benelli 302s with zero problems and only regular maintenance. It's been a pleasure to ride, so much so I ended up getting into the leoncino trail recently. And that is seeming to go the same direction.
I have my Benelli 302S for more than 2 years now...dont sleep on it! no issues so far and simply outshines any twin cylinder in the sound department. take a listen on it. one of the best sounding engines. period.
Just picked up a 22. Stoked to hear good things about the Benelli line up
Hooray! Yam has wished death, castration, and swirlies upon my humble CB500f! Even included the stock photo of it at 3:10 to make sure I could feel the knife in my heart twist just that little bit extra.
catching strays for no reason lmaoo
Bought a 2013 sfv650 a week ago. 1st bike, cheaper, low miles, ok shape, and im happy! Now on to the maintenance!!!
I have a Versys X 300 as my first bike. I love it. Pros: great mpg, nimble, but feels planted while you are riding. Cons: it's light enough and has a large enough profile, any sort of crosswind will definitely send you into a different lane. I also weigh 250lbs so it'll do highway speeds but I have to drag it kicking and screaming the entire way.
I understand the crosswind issue but I've never heard anyone saying Versys 300 as light lol. Only the P-twin V-strom 250 is heavier, and that thing was basically ADV Gixxer 250.
Must be around some crazy mountains, even when I was a skinny below 100 pound twig riding my 250cc enduro with 30+ mph crosswinds and 50+ mph gusts changing directions randomly I never went into another lane. 1 direction of the trip was highways around noon, so one side of my tire got worn down on the side from leaning over against the wind all the time, lol!
@@victoriazero8869center of gravity, at 386 lbs the bike is fairly on the lighter side, and w/ a higher center of gravity I could see a wind issue
Uhhhh.... I just heard you call out my RE 650's name out in the B tier and now I have to change my pants. Glad to see you guys have come around on the Twins! 😉😉
I saw a Savage 650 out perform every Harley at a biker rally once on a dirt drag race. Man were those bikers pissed.
Currently have a 1993 Kawasaki ZZR-250 for my A2 license. Plenty of fun revving to 15k revs with a dual exhaust and still be able to get 100+mpg if I try. Also does 0-60 in 6 seconds but tops out at 100 mph so you don't kill yourself. Only cost me a grand.
Good deal on that bike!
Leoncino 500 Trail owner here and you will not be disappointed
I have been using my trk502 for daily ride for almost 2 years and and already put almost 50,000km. So far i am satisfied with the performance and there is no major issue occurs on it. There is also someone at my country that already racked up to 175,000km
Well, I have the benelli302s in which I have already racked like 7000kms. It has great power for a 300 bike but, most notably, it is very very comfortable (the seat).
If you are planning to get it, I would recommend buying some type of wind-shield because cruising at more than 60mph might not be the greatest experience for some new riders.
It's nice to know I'm not the only one that has one lol I got mine for the color mostly, green to match my box at work, and it's not too much power for a first bike. Awesome to hear no issues with it, I got a 21 and it only has 27.2 miles on it for now
Yea I just ordered a black windshield from alliexpress for my 302S, highway winds are annoying. It sucks I gotta wait six weeks to show up. They have some that specifically fit the bike.
Just picked up a 22 302s love it. Glad to hear they're going good so far
Loving my Gen 3 KLR as my first bike, I think I'll keep it even if I get another next year, or the year after. Availability was great, was literally the first bike I could see myself buying that I found in stock at a dealer. I might literally get a used Versys next, tried one out and it's so fun; the way to improve it would be to make it a bit lighter.
My first too. Almost 800 miles in.
Same here! 600 kilometres (~370 miles) in 1 week. Definitely a keeper, even if I get another bike.
N+1 rule. You must keep it.
I loved my 2019 s40. Smooth, reliable, and belt driven. It was a great bike. I will be buying another one sometime in the future.
It also has good manufacture support and decent aftermarket support. Everything was steel too. No plastic anywhere.
@@michaelmurdock4607 unfortunately suzuki discontinued the s40 (savage). I'm pretty sure suzuki canceled it be a use it was carburated. I wish they would have slapped fuel injection on it instead of canceling the s40.
@@michaelmurdock4607 because
Wished they canned the S40 and continued the S50 instead. The V-Twin, Liquid Cooled, Fuel Injected, and Shaft drive of the S50 at the lighter chasis made it an actual beast.
@@mikelcaluag the s50 was badass and they should have continued it. I considered buying one. I just like the old school tech. It was surprisingly smooth. Motorcycles like the s40 are dying out. They are being pushed out because of emissions I guess.
there will be only two things after the apocalypse. Cockroach’s and KLR 650’s
i'm thinking of transitioning from my scooter to the honda nc750x, it has all i need and more. but if we are talking looks, i'm really looking forward on your take on the new indian scout rogue, probably the most beautiful bike i've seen
Good luck finding one. Twice I went to dealerships near me to look at one (because their website said they had one) only to told it was already sold, not to mention the third that I was smart enough to call first so I didn't waste my time. Dealerships, update your damn websites. I'm told by both these dealerships that new bikes will be in around June.
I got the nc700x, it an amazing bike, super comfy and reliable. I def recommend one after coming from a RE himalayan.
@@jeffrielley920 yeah with all the commotion in the world lately bikes and cars have very long waiting periods
@@Justlottery_ I m thinking nc750x for the storage capabilities. As a scooter owner I m not ready yet to let go of all that comfort
@@TheRpggamer91 I love the front space it has. I use it for everything. Enough to grocery ship with, got mine with the full pannier and back case. 2012 nc700 with 1000 miles. It is by no means a speedy boi, definitely the best commuter out there. I get +60mpg when I'm gentle, for the most part I'm at +45 when I'm having fun. Plan on investing on a muffler though, it's super quiet.
I just bought my first bike... I'm 6ft 3 and 235lbs, Yahmaha R7 is the best beginnger bike. Do not turn the throttle more than 70% open and youll be fine. even 100% open after a week of riding. Tons of fun
1:32 My respect for this man has doubled
The s40 being at the bottom of the list hurts a bit… but not as much as it hurt me when I went down in the rain…
Or the Damn vibrations
I work at a Benelli Dealership and I completely agree with yam on kickin Honda's testi's on their own high ground. 🤘🤘🤘
Another C type bike rider here. I got the TANK (KLR-650) 2018 model last year and farkled it up. I ride occasionally and the Tank is more than adequate for my old man rural style riding which includes a dirt road now and then. I did get a kick out of my buddy's G310 being rated at less...lol. Yammie on!
I just started riding in November. Never rode anything but a scooter and passed the MDF on a Honda Shadow 125, first try. I somehow managed to get my hands on a new Triumph Trident as my starter bike and it's been a blast. Thanks for all the awesome videos.
Yam is a closeted cb lover.... Change my mind
Thank you, you did achieve somewhat refreshing take on "what's a good beginner bike" vids. Not in a market, and crying for S40, but still thanks!
My Royal Enfield 650 interceptor has great brakes. Loved the episode Yammie made about it. Just couldn't figure out the part about the brakes. Maybe the one he rode had sucky brakes, I don't know.
He’s just used to sport bike brakes! They’re in a league of their own!
it's kinda lacking for the weight but they do work fine
I thought the same about every cruiser I owned until I got on something with good brakes. Some bikes have such good breaks it feels like you might flip over if they didn't have abs. And if you're used to that, average brakes are crap
I've watched some TH-cam videos, and some guys actually upgrade the breaking pads and leavers (search for: 6 upgrades for royal Enfield interceptor). I don't own one, so I can't really tell, but I'm strongly considering buying it for my first bike.
@@pocketlint82 get that feeling on my mt-09 especially after I’ve ridden my Himalayan for a few days straight
I started on--and still ride--the Royal Enfield INT 650 (Interceptor in all the world but the USA). Not knowing any of the other bikes, I can't comment other than to say you've the Interceptor fairly rated as one of the top bikes. For me, the riding position was a deciding factor when looking at quality motorcycles in the same class. That it is a constant head-turner and compliment eliciting machine has been a surprising bonus. Know the RE Continental GT 650 is much the same bike but in a cafe racer style.
Embrace the pain, Yammie. You added credibility when you and your sidekick admitted you were wrong about the Royal Enfields. Many compliments to both of you.
Started on a DRZ. To me it seems like one of the most solid starter choices, because if you upgrade as you go along it can grow with you.
Any Suzuki turned into a sumo is the way my child. If you want the best of the best get a dr650 and spend 2k on some warp9 wheels ;)
10:08 Agreed about Kawa not utilizing their 400cc motor more in bikes like the Versys, would be interesting even though I imagine it would need to be tuned differently.
The frame was unfortunately designed with 250/300 engine in mind. Ironically and sadly, if any Versys 400 going to show up, it has 50% chance of using old 650cc frame with lightened parts. kawi had done this for decades, with 2018 Ninja 400 being an exception (it shares the frame with Ninja 250 2018)
I bought a 78 suzuki gs550 as my first bike this winter and it's honestly the best bike I have ever owned
I love how Yammie went from putting Benelli in F tier to putting one of their bikes in A tier after riding one . I hope he rides more of them .
They’re only A tier because it’s an “oddball” list - it’s still firmly C or D tier lol
@@yammienoob Still C and D are usually some decent options in your opinion . That is much better than the "don't get this bike" that F tier stands for . That's a step forward for Benelli in the Papa Yam motorcycle powerscaling. And with how much you affect the market with your recommendations this can only be a good thing for Benelli .
that should tell you something, hes a fraud
@@mhsucio6830 Why ?
Thank you for saving us from the GSXR-pocalypse !
Not salty, genuinely interested: how is a Benelli 500 better than a Honda 500? They barely differ in price, weight or performance and the Honda is clearly more reliable. I would love a comparison video now you have a Leoncino in the shop!
Think you missed the point these are esoteric starter bikes!
@@sarahmanalapan8443 yes of course I know but Papa Yams talked about how the Leoncino is a better 500cc sportbike than the Honda. I’m just interested to know why he thinks so and would love a comparison video!
@@arnosoudyn4899 i am sure youll get your wish. He's also gotta say something to ger the comments hoping.
Ahh the S40... Literally the definition of sitting on your tailbone and disintegrating it into dust after 10 miles.
I got a Suzuki Bandit 600 as my first bike last month and I love it.
Got 1300 miles on my KLR in 5 weeks. Commuting to work in 29° and off-roading like a mf with stock tires. Can't wait to put some motoz rallz on it. I've only had my permit for 5 weeks also.
It’s all about sitting position, upright is the easiest and safest. No sports bikes leaning over the bars, no cruisers. The Duke200 KTM is an example of the correct position for a learner.
My first street bike was a Suzuki savage bobber and it's still one of my favorite bikes I've had.
Just got my bike about a week ago, went with a 08 fz6 and its been a blast to ride
I mean depends on where you live, I always said best beginner is a 250 dual sport. And then you move on up to a 450. In the northeast and living in the Appalachian mountains, having something to ride backroads and still go where dirt bikes will go is a plus. My XT250 does need to be almost wide open to run the 70mph speed limits, but my dr650 does it just fine. Only thing is the dr is a little heavy when you drop it down a hill side or into a deep mud hole. But I think something like a wr450 would be perfect to do both
The fact that Cleveland didn't name their bike "The Steamer" makes me sad.
Yammie savaged the G310GS for being under powered but didn't complain about heavier bikes with less power. It's not a hardcore off road bike but the alloy rims are lightweight and plenty good enough for the dirt roads and slow trail riding that it's intended to ride and the tubeless tires are awesome. It's a good urban commuter that handles well and is fun to ride. Yammie's anti-BMW bigotry is ugly. :-)
Thanks a lot! As an Interceptor 650 owner, I gotta clean my room now.
The fact I just bought a Leoncino 500 makes me happy :)
Started on a Suzuki savage. I honestly think it’s a fantastic starter bike if you’re a cruiser guy but I had a good laugh. But what do I know, I ride a sportster now.
Had a fucked up ‘84 magna as the first bike I ever rode and owned. Only things that worked perfectly on it were the engine and clutch. Hell of a learning experience lol.
I literally just ordered my first proper bike today. And in keeping with what seems like internet tradition, I did not pick any of these :-) My ZX6R is on its way...eventually. Now if only it will come before the end of riding season...
turning 18 next year omg I just cannot wait to get my sv650 as second bike!!
Loved the overall energy in this one ✌🏼
He’s just making these lists to be a troll at this point.
I just bought a 2020 Kawasaki W800 as my first bike. So far so good!
Started on a Royal Enfield - nice bike. Gearbox is great, smooth shifting no matter how hard you beat on it (Fortnine did a nice piece on the whole segment on how they have "stupidly over engineered the thing," makes sense.) Major complaints: 1. seat is uncomfortable for long rides (it's angle slides you forward, crotch first into the tank, HARD) 2. Electrical is a known issue. My speedometer just up and died randomly. on the way to the shop for a fix, it came back to life. New Enfields come with Brembos and they had a recall on all break systems, so that was reworked (mine had a swap after I bought it) - they tended to stick when cold, apparently.
I got a BN302s for my first bike. Pretty fun and overall decent.
Glad to see mine wasn't on the list. Liked the Jefferson trivia too.
The new 500cc Hondas are far better than the benellis will ever be!
He put a 12 hp “motorcycle” in the middle......
Best beginner bike is a 250 dual sport.
Learn to ride in all conditions from the start.
Yup, or one of the new 300s from Honda and Kawasaki if you want a new bike. They're great and I imagine you won't want to ever sell them.
Depends on how much commuting you plan to do from the get go and what your commute entails. Most people in that position would get the most out of something like the mt-07. I couldn’t even imagine taking my Himalayan to work every day
The drought it over, bike tiers list are back
I got the Versys as my first bike and loved it. The engine is nice and easy. Transmission is solid and the looks are killer IMO. The only BUT for me is the rubber it comes with. It's awful. Low grip on pavement and no grip on off road. If you do get this bike I highly recommend getting good rubber.
100% Agree, I got MT60s on mine and made a world of difference. The bike really does need the 400 engine as well as a taller 5th and 6th for highway cruising.
Been really tempted to trade in my Himalayan for a versys 300 to use as a commuter bike. I blame Ryan at Fortnine
@@talltale9760 having owned one I say don't tbh on the highway it sits at 8k-9k rpm and vibrates pretty badly. The seat is hard as a rock and you don't get into torque until you are higher up the rev range. I sold mine because I wanted something better for commuting. The 300 really runs out of power on the highway. I've been looking at either a Vstrom 650 or a CFmoto 650 mt. Although I might get a Taureg 660
@@Cabooseified the real answer is a s1000rr
@@talltale9760 LMAO!!! Omg no!!!I don't have that money and good lord could you imagine someone trying to off-road that bike?
Spent last year on a little Tao Tao 250 cheap mail to order bike and loved it but this year I’m on a 2015 FZ09 what a world of differences!🤷♂️🤦🏻🤣😂🤣😂
I cannot believe I actually heard the words "advanced Suzuki technology" in the same sentence
Fuck yeah! D Tier! I'll have you know I hit 70mph on my Himalayan in FIFTH GEAR mind you. Yeah it was downhill, yeah there was a tail wind, and so what if it doesn't have a 6th. Shit bike gang gang.
love your videos so much! but you need a pop filter on that microphone ha
My son is starting on a klx250s I got him for 1600$ he gets his license this summer after he takes the class. I'm looking for something for him after some experience and this really helped.
The s40 is fun and bulletproof. Is rather ride that than some of the others on this list
Derek Carr being on the screen was fucking hilarious. Gold star to the editor
Dear Mr.Noob,
The Kawasaki Versys 650 is a fine bike. The latest version is even better albeit more expensive, especially as a GT variant. A very underrated machine indeed. Please be nice about them in future.
Kind regards,
T.Tempest
Or just buy the CFMoto 650 Adventura. Literally the same thing for about 2K less. Same engine and same frame, just a little worse in the numbers category.
@@Cabooseified Only a dullard would purchase a CFMoto. They use KTM units too but if they were that good why aren't they beating Kawasaki and KTM sales figures. Because it is cheap and not so cheerful Chinese rip offs.
@@teamtempest844 they also were just released in the US last month and didn't bring their flagship the 800MT. The 650MT and most of their line up is very much so newer compared to either Kawasaki or KTM. Also they aren't really all that great at marketing if I'm to be honest. Give them time and I think we'll start to hear more about them.
@@Cabooseified Time will tell, each manufacturer had to start somewhere. It is a very incestuous yet merciless industry.
@@teamtempest844 agreed. It's a shame they didn't bring over the 800MT, that's a bike worth talking about. Most of their other line up is kind of just ok. Cheap copies. That one was at least original!
only two kinds of riders Yammie. Those that have been down, and those that are going down. Being in the former of those, qualifies me. Streetfighter giggy 750 was the last bike I remember owning., but the receipt i have says I was on a ZX-9. Being rear-ended in '07, and a traumatic brain injury, I would be in the latter category. Being in bed for , however long it was caused "footdrop". That means I cant shift! I even tried on a quad!!!
Thanks to yummy tube and after years of consideration I finally got my Kawasaki Ninja 500 as a starter bike.
A TH-camr named Wildlens By Abrar has ridden his G310GS all the way from Europe to the Middle East.
I started on a R7 and i don’t regret it in the slightest
I started riding on a 94' suzuki savage (s40) and tbh I liked it a lot, even though it had a few problems
I think the Ducati scrambler is also a pretty good but odd beginner bike. The price is not quite beginner friendly but if the budget is right then i think it's not too bad. I had my first tank slapper, lowside, drops, and other "oh crap" moments on it and I feel like it was a pretty easy bike to ride considering the sitting position is pretty comfy and it's not a tall ride. The only downside I had with mine was that sometimes the throttle was not responsive when I was blipping the throttle but other than that it was a great bike to learn imo.
This was def sponsored by the GSXR250 marketing department
Ouch! First the CB500 is on the list of recommended beginner bikes and now it belongs in the trash? Good thing I'm upgrading soon.
Lol his lists are always awful! Says a cb500x is junk, but puts a benelli at the top of the list? 😂
My first bike was a ‘18 street triple r 765 and I wish I would have kept it.
The picture on 8:19 mark is actually a QJMOTOR SRK 350 the engine of which is a bigger bore version of the 302s’. I owned a 2019 302s here in China it was pretty good and I was pretty happy with it but wished for a bit more power and a bit lighter weight. In the begging of 2022 I test rode the SRK 350 and found out it’s lighter and has more power - a much better, more complete bike. But I am not sure you can get QJMOTOR models in US.
I cannot believe the classic Suzuki S40 BIG SINGLE lost out to mini-motos and wannabe cafe racers with Chinese scooter engines that are not even able to go highway speeds. I just rode my SAVAGE 650 90 miles round trip to get cannabis across state lines. It was totally miserable and my hands went numb from the vibrations at 80 MPH, but it made the trip.
Early model fz09 best beginner bike, you’ll get used to the throttle, just don’t put in a mode
Yam need to ride an s40. it's a great bike. Another Royal Enfield type video please.
Got my license now if they will ever get either a Benelli 302 mt03 or duke 390 anywhere in the world I’ll be riding 🤷🏻♂️ I’ll take the first one I find of those.
nice to see my sr400 at least mentioned lol
Lol I got a Benelli leoncino based off your review. Hope it last long 🤞🏼
I AM getting a turbo busa for my first bike. No ifs or buts about it
vid starts at 2:30
would liove to see you compare the benelli 502c with other beginner cruisers
I have a 502c! I have 13200km on it and im superrr happy with it. So issues so far!
Hahaha bennlli above the 650 re this guy is absolutely insane ay 😆 I love it
Erm.... Cleveland cyclewerks was effectively out of business like 2 years before this video posted lol
Not even 2 mins in and you get a like for the Devil May Cry reference
First bike
Tried cb 500x
I like it
For 3000usd you can get a brandnew gixxer 250 with 26 hp and 22nm of torque which is unbelievable.
I got a 2018 XT250 because my father said I couldn’t get a “big bike” till I knew how to ride so basically I have to have the small bike for a nother year till I’m 18
Okay. I got a used Suzuki s40 for my first bike (very inexpensive but put some $$ into it for tires and other things). Three months later, I got a new 2022 Ninja 400 KRT Edition. I'm selling the s40. lol
i dunno if you have done this vid but here a suggestion; top 7 "coolest cruisers" for beginner or intermediate
Honda shadow 750 would be on there
I don’t want a garbage bike like a turbo busa, but I’ll still recommend it for the beginner squid.
Would love to see your take on CF moto motorcycles!
Same!!
Just being an obnoxious goon on my Straight piped Royal Enfield GT 650.
I kinda would put the xsr 900 or even the gp version.
Like the gp verison looks so retro that people dont expect it being nearly that fast.
For the normal one i have seen enogh XSRs with grandpa style mirrors, oldschool bags and all kind of aftermarket mods that just make it look even more retro.
Even my 22 with more modern mods gets underestimated due to its looks. Meanwhile no one that doenst know the bike expects the almosg 100nm of Torque it has with a aftermarket exhaust. Especially because im the eu due to euro 5 they sond more tame then most stock bikes.
05 buell xb9r for my first bike. Thoroughly enjoying it.
I got a 2014 cb1100 as my first bike. less hp than a 600cc, but more torque. but a little heavy at 540lbs. I love it though and I think I'll have it for a long time before I start looking for something else
I have a suzuki s40😂 it’s more fun than the ninja 300 I had because it’s not puke green and has more torque. it’s just a cheap, old &simple motorcycle ‘n that’s about it lol