People fail to realize that Hal is very good at adapting and he doesn’t mind not being igl, I actually think he prefers not having that stress. So if all he has to do is frag out and just kind of give some insight from time to time, they’ll do just fine. Gen plays very much like ev and zero is a much better version of reps and zero igls. I don’t know how people think it’s not going to work out lol
Hal and Zero are actually pretty similar. It could work and it would be insane. The problem that i see is resources and player priority. Reps and Sikzz are both low resource players who are supposed to do a lot with very little and support players like Verherst/Genburten to carry. Meaning Hal will likely be playing the support side of fragging or pushing Gen into it.
@@reubenmcmurray4377 gen is an anchor and ev was also an anchor, imo gen is a better player. Hal will do just fine being a fragger as he was always top of the kill board and always had more kills on his team anyways. Now all he has to do is kill, doesn’t have to worry about rotations.
@@OrangeSoda1432 i've always under the impression that hal doesnt really want to be igl and just getting pushed to it at tsm because no one else wanted to
3:21 I understand the terms of Hal being in a fragger role for DarkZero, and having Gen as the Controlling/Anchor because having Gen in that roll means your versatility as a team is broad. If Hal is Controlling/Support/Anchor (which he could) I don’t believe it would work because of Hal’s nature it’s like asking your Defender to be an attacker and visa versa. You run a huge risk because because it’s not in their nature to do so.
I think they do have the separation, Zero is arguably the bets IGL. Gens best characters are Caustic and Cat. And Hal frags harder than 95% of pros whilst IGLing.
I don't understand why they are getting shit on for finishing 17th like bro 3-time winners treat this like a real sports team one season they are good and suck the next one DZ didn't even make in last year and came back this year
Look at what happen to NRG Valorant, EVERY streamer thought they were the God Tier team because of individual power and stats but together they dont fit and havent advanced out of groups once yet. This new team update might be the same but maybe Apex is different
Honestly, I don't expect it to work either, but mainly because its such a drama move it seems like its actually for the attention and that Hal is starting to think about his streaming career after apex.
They placed 17th once and he instantly dips. I feel like ppl like hal that only go where the success is - will never truly be loyal and happy anywhere. He‘ll leave DZ in 1 year from now. :)
I think they’ll be fine too, but you literally just gave an average description of what could potentially happen to any team. I think what you’re missing is that DZ is shooting for winning only. That’s the bar. Beating what both DZ and TSM has done by just winning it all. Anything less is inferior and not successful
You say don't put all those star players on the same team but every 4 years we put them all on the same team and beat the shit out of the rest of the world. Dream team > all.
Is it right that hal make the decision to go to DZ BEFORE LAN? And told he his decision BEFORE LAN to reps and evan? Is this is true? This would be the biggest bitchMove to his team in apex history! This would mean that hal leave TSM AT LAN! Look at the performance of TSM at lan! What a traitor hal is! It was so obvious that hal was never a real friend of reps! to leave TSM is okay BUT THE TIME was a bitch move from hal!
Dude, go touch grass. You’ve never met these people and don’t know what they act like behind the scenes. Overall, it’s a business and everyone has to remember that.
I mean that TSM squad basically shaped pro apex to what it is today. It wasn't meant to last forever, but honestly I didn't think it'd end this soon. The lackluster performance in playoffs really was just the nail in the coffin, even though they realistically didn't play that bad, other teams just played unreal. I'm very excited to see how powerful DZ is with Hal being able to focus more on fragging or anchoring rather than micro managing & IGLing. It's an amazing change for his career, but an unfortunate end to the best legacy in apex.
IN 2000 The Lakers added Carl Malone and Gary Payton to their roster and it did not work. They lostin the finals to the Pistons which had no superstar but had all the heart and chemistry. That was the end of one of the greatest duos of all time, Kobe and Shaq. I was a big time Shaq fan back then, but now I see how much of a competitor Kobe was. Hal leaving TSM feels like Lebron joining Wade and Bosh in Miami. Those chips are not as respected as the one that Dirk Nowitzki won because he won it with his OG team. This really feels like a soft move in my opinion and by him telling the team this before the tourny just ruined the whole team vibe. I am a ride or die kind of person and I would have liked to see him stay with Jordan and Evan.
I honestly think Hal and Evan were butting heads ALOT because Evan doesnt seem like the type to put up with soft ass Hals disrespect.. because if Evan really wanted to he would beat the dog shit out of Hal lmao
He is joining Zero and Genburten but Hal said they arent ready to announce what org they are playing with.. I do not think Dark Zero has the money to afford Imperialhal, Zero, and Genburten.. If you ask me, I think Red Bull Gaming is going to be their org .. notice how Hal just signed a deal with Redbull just like Timmy too
Hal has said in the past that he doesn't even like IGLing, he said just doesn't trust anyone to do it better than him, with the exception of (at the time) Sweet. I would imagine at this point, with how good Zer0 is, he has shown Hal enough for him to be comfortable trusting him to take over. Also with how good Hal is as a fragger, if they are winning, I doubt Hal will ever care about who is IGLing.
hal literally said he might just even be better now that he wont be IGL bc he also wont have that IGL stress-responsibility, yall just be saying anything
@@aHoessway93but they also achieved victories which is vert unlikely to be replicated any time soon and with the game dying slowly, I don’t think anyone will. 1 bad tournament doesn’t sum up for everything
@@Flirken1 Best in Apex history is a bit of a stretch. Dude uses a $10,000 pc and t1 internet line. ALGS is entertainment at best. Not "competition" Just to qualify you need to buy the most expensive pc money can buy. If it was competition it would all be done on ps5 to ensure equal hardware and no advantages but that doesn't bring in the views and $$$.. Deal with it.
DarkZero bout to become the most toxic pro team lmao
Also the most powerful, Zer0 as igl, Hal as fragger, and Gen as anchor. They would be unstoppable.
@@greyduck3949if they can reach that level it will literally be a super team!
There seems to be a weird correlation...
i already hate them...
😂
People fail to realize that Hal is very good at adapting and he doesn’t mind not being igl, I actually think he prefers not having that stress. So if all he has to do is frag out and just kind of give some insight from time to time, they’ll do just fine. Gen plays very much like ev and zero is a much better version of reps and zero igls. I don’t know how people think it’s not going to work out lol
Hal and Zero are actually pretty similar.
It could work and it would be insane.
The problem that i see is resources and player priority. Reps and Sikzz are both low resource players who are supposed to do a lot with very little and support players like Verherst/Genburten to carry.
Meaning Hal will likely be playing the support side of fragging or pushing Gen into it.
@@reubenmcmurray4377 gen is an anchor and ev was also an anchor, imo gen is a better player. Hal will do just fine being a fragger as he was always top of the kill board and always had more kills on his team anyways. Now all he has to do is kill, doesn’t have to worry about rotations.
@@OrangeSoda1432 i've always under the impression that hal doesnt really want to be igl and just getting pushed to it at tsm because no one else wanted to
I became an igl bc of him 🥲
it kinda makes more sense now that he is subbing to multiple teams on scrims before LAN
There are people who shine in the spotlight and some who work their best propping up those people in the spotlight.
I mean, you just defined the word teamwork. People complete each other
Gonna miss the og tsm team 😢 time to shine timmy !!
The OG team was Hal, Prod, and THump
@@Kooberthegooberyou’re not ok mentally.
I mean hes not wrong? That was the first TSM roster?@toasty00000
@@worldeaterYT by definition yeah but that one didn’t count😭🙏
3:21 I understand the terms of Hal being in a fragger role for DarkZero, and having Gen as the Controlling/Anchor because having Gen in that roll means your versatility as a team is broad. If Hal is Controlling/Support/Anchor (which he could) I don’t believe it would work because of Hal’s nature it’s like asking your Defender to be an attacker and visa versa. You run a huge risk because because it’s not in their nature to do so.
So, when you joining TSM?
Sure, it'd be unfair.
Hal should be the fragger only because gen can clutch at the end
Next Video "Timmy reacts to desingful leaving dsg"
Lmao 😂
whoops, its Timmy who left DSG for MST one month later hahaha
DSG should pick up Evan
I think they do have the separation, Zero is arguably the bets IGL. Gens best characters are Caustic and Cat. And Hal frags harder than 95% of pros whilst IGLing.
Please close the fridge
Wait a minute timmy joins tsm and its ggs fr tho
He’s kappin. He’s not leaving his boys at DSG
Ggs in terms of the end of TSM. Timmy is no masterful igl or anywhere near the igl level of Hal, which is what TSM needs
I don't understand why they are getting shit on for finishing 17th like bro 3-time winners treat this like a real sports team one season they are good and suck the next one DZ didn't even make in last year and came back this year
Verhulst has big things in store hopefully
Verhulst, Timmy and Slayyrr would be a fun team to watch
yeah i remembre when he tried to play catalyst
was this before dezign left for tsm? he's not mentioning it at all
By Hal joining him, feels like Zero is the chairman
Dark Zero has always been on top. With or without Hal...Zero and Gen can make anyone look amazing
Even when they missed finals last year and TSM won?
Yes 😂 😂 as a tsm fan, yes, zero and gen are infinitely better.@@retrospective77
@@r99islifeyt41no they are not
TSM_iiTzTIMMY
Make apex fix the valkyrie bug? 💗
I think Timmy's onto something with the inside job. IQ 3000 if he destroys DZ from the inside XD
I feel like Hal’s Ego is what makes him a good IGL/Leader at the same time I dont think he can lead by other people. Dont know if that make sense..
Off topic, can u pls react to Shiv_FPS rages??
Hal has always been a better fragger than IGL since he excels at both. This team will be cracked
Look at what happen to NRG Valorant, EVERY streamer thought they were the God Tier team because of individual power and stats but together they dont fit and havent advanced out of groups once yet. This new team update might be the same but maybe Apex is different
Honestly, I don't expect it to work either, but mainly because its such a drama move it seems like its actually for the attention and that Hal is starting to think about his streaming career after apex.
Idk the last 4 yrs it was tsm last 2 algs champs and 2 yrs before that it was darkzero. It's a tough trio. Just gen and Hal is crazy.
pretty much timmy is saying time well tell what well happened to datkzero
I think it’s a valid prediction but the real question is how timmy started playing with dezign
Legend has it Hal and his boyfriend Lulu got put down like dogs by our boy Warlord Shiv
What is the opposite of KD joining the Warriors? That is this.
YO WASSUP TIMMY!?!?
the galacticos is the best example. after that rm just chose to rob every game
They placed 17th once and he instantly dips. I feel like ppl like hal that only go where the success is - will never truly be loyal and happy anywhere. He‘ll leave DZ in 1 year from now. :)
Thumbnail? …. YES
I think they’ll be fine too, but you literally just gave an average description of what could potentially happen to any team. I think what you’re missing is that DZ is shooting for winning only. That’s the bar. Beating what both DZ and TSM has done by just winning it all. Anything less is inferior and not successful
When we gonna see Genburten timmy Hall in one team
Trolls teams gonna contest this DZ team every LAN
Hal leaving tsm is wild imo. Hope it works for him.
You say don't put all those star players on the same team but every 4 years we put them all on the same team and beat the shit out of the rest of the world. Dream team > all.
You ate a IGL team up with verhulst show them who's boss. Show them reality!!
Is it right that hal make the decision to go to DZ BEFORE LAN? And told he his decision BEFORE LAN to reps and evan? Is this is true? This would be the biggest bitchMove to his team in apex history! This would mean that hal leave TSM AT LAN! Look at the performance of TSM at lan! What a traitor hal is! It was so obvious that hal was never a real friend of reps! to leave TSM is okay BUT THE TIME was a bitch move from hal!
Stfu bro, you know nothing 😂
You good bro?😂
Dude, go touch grass. You’ve never met these people and don’t know what they act like behind the scenes. Overall, it’s a business and everyone has to remember that.
Wait HAL is joining DZ?
I mean that TSM squad basically shaped pro apex to what it is today. It wasn't meant to last forever, but honestly I didn't think it'd end this soon. The lackluster performance in playoffs really was just the nail in the coffin, even though they realistically didn't play that bad, other teams just played unreal.
I'm very excited to see how powerful DZ is with Hal being able to focus more on fragging or anchoring rather than micro managing & IGLing. It's an amazing change for his career, but an unfortunate end to the best legacy in apex.
Timmy you should join TSM you and Verhulst OmG you two are scary
You look like a TSM teammate already Timmy please team with verhulst so scary.
Verhulst is so good and so are you please team with him??!
Hal needs a team..... wink wink wink hint hit hint
Team up with verhulst you 2 would would be the nastiest they couldn't deal with you 2!! He wants to win wait till he faces u 2?!
let the goat come acue
IN 2000 The Lakers added Carl Malone and Gary Payton to their roster and it did not work. They lostin the finals to the Pistons which had no superstar but had all the heart and chemistry. That was the end of one of the greatest duos of all time, Kobe and Shaq. I was a big time Shaq fan back then, but now I see how much of a competitor Kobe was. Hal leaving TSM feels like Lebron joining Wade and Bosh in Miami. Those chips are not as respected as the one that Dirk Nowitzki won because he won it with his OG team. This really feels like a soft move in my opinion and by him telling the team this before the tourny just ruined the whole team vibe. I am a ride or die kind of person and I would have liked to see him stay with Jordan and Evan.
I honestly think Hal and Evan were butting heads ALOT because Evan doesnt seem like the type to put up with soft ass Hals disrespect.. because if Evan really wanted to he would beat the dog shit out of Hal lmao
Hal going to dz makes me root against dz even more. DSG im hoping yall take the next lan.
You bang with them everyday join verhulst he is actually the best on TSM
DSG is running it back as they were though right? Yall have been so close twice now and i think third time will be the run
Dezignful trialling for TSM 👀
It was time for a change.
No way Hal is supporting
He can just go back to TSM one day
I was gonna say, I hope not….
Seems like hal knows tsm is falling off and DZ is on the rise after scrims and he just refuses to be on a losing team 🤷🏼♂️
Haaal we doing ?
Are*
Hope timmy join tsm
nickmercs wants to IGL TSM
Anyone know where he’s going? I heard rumors about him joining DarkZero
Watch the vid breh
he played with dz in scrims today
The video is literally Timmy talking about him playing with DZ 😂
He is joining Zero and Genburten but Hal said they arent ready to announce what org they are playing with.. I do not think Dark Zero has the money to afford Imperialhal, Zero, and Genburten.. If you ask me, I think Red Bull Gaming is going to be their org .. notice how Hal just signed a deal with Redbull just like Timmy too
Listening comprehension -100💀
Hal left rep
Thats the saddest part.. fuck Evan and Raven, Hal and Reps have been together since 2019
He meeds money for that womam bruh
He joined dark zero you have nothing to lose your one of if the not the best in the game talk to verhulst and TSM
True
There flirting on stream right now. 😅😅
My question is: will Hal be comfortable giving up the IGL? I don’t think so
Hal has said in the past that he doesn't even like IGLing, he said just doesn't trust anyone to do it better than him, with the exception of (at the time) Sweet. I would imagine at this point, with how good Zer0 is, he has shown Hal enough for him to be comfortable trusting him to take over. Also with how good Hal is as a fragger, if they are winning, I doubt Hal will ever care about who is IGLing.
He will be fine giving it up. Zero is one of if not the best igl in the game. Easy to let him take control and just go destroy a lobby
hal literally said he might just even be better now that he wont be IGL bc he also wont have that IGL stress-responsibility, yall just be saying anything
Crazy he left, they were so good too
so good they finished 17th
@@aHoessway93but they also achieved victories which is vert unlikely to be replicated any time soon and with the game dying slowly, I don’t think anyone will. 1 bad tournament doesn’t sum up for everything
@@ibinTZYthey placed behind random nobody teams
@@buttered__toast_2899 Happens to the best of the best too👍
I just realized timmy got a big ahh nose😂
I don’t see it working out. When it comes to end game has is the best igl in the game. That’s why he has won so many tournaments.
Cringe bro
Hal is not that good like faide, lemonhead and timmy....hal like average gamer on apex legend
nice bait
Hal is going to ruin DZ
Saying the best player in Apex history will ruin a top 3 team that has already won before is hilarious. Coping hard. Just say you’re a hater.
L take
Specially after they just decimated scrims lol
Specially after they just decimated scrims lol
@@Flirken1 Best in Apex history is a bit of a stretch. Dude uses a $10,000 pc and t1 internet line. ALGS is entertainment at best. Not "competition" Just to qualify you need to buy the most expensive pc money can buy. If it was competition it would all be done on ps5 to ensure equal hardware and no advantages but that doesn't bring in the views and $$$.. Deal with it.
Am I first?