King Crimson - Starless (Live in Takamatsu, Japan 2015)
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- Starless by King Crimson. Another taster from the new King Crimson album - ""Radical Action to Unseat the Hold of Monkey Mind".
As those lucky enough to have seen it live will know, the opening chord of this song are often accompanied by an intake of breath. Like an incoming tide of realisation, all the variations on "I never thought I’d hear this live", or "crikey, this is my favourite", "OMG I’ve died and gone to heaven" and a few more sentiments besides.
The complexities behind capturing the seven-headed Crimson on video are described in David Singleton's liner notes :
"It is something of a truism in the history of Crimson that any show that is filmed will not be one when heaven meets earth and the angels descend. The presence of cameras and cameramen iintroduces an intrusive element into the relationship between the artist, the music and the audience. Our solution was to return to the concept of ""BootlegTV"" and prioritise the music and the performance rather than the pictures. We embedded a single cameraman (the long-suffering Trevor Wilkins) on this tour, and he filmed every night with a a series of cameras hidden discreetly on the stage where they would intrude on neither artist nor audience. The compromise is thus in the visuals and not in the music."
The set was recently described by John Kelman in "All about jazz" as ""the definitive live Crimson release from the definitive live Crimson lineup; a landmark recording from a group whose discography is filled with them.
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I quite love how Fripp plays one of the most menacing riffs in rock history while quietly sitting on a chair with a complete straight look in his face
He looks like a university professor thinking "this is beneath me". So goddamn cool that guy
He @@gromold1640 He shreds that guitar with the expression of somebody performing Data Entry. Which is why he kinda scared the crap outta me.
It's the musical equivalent of Michael Palin's horrifically normal torturer role in Gilliam's film Brazil.
I don't hear it as menacing at all. There are two memorable riffs in the song, one is the grand and rather pretty, though sad, main theme that has been played on violin, saxophone, or guitar in different versions of KC. The other is the "Chinese water torture" guitar riff that now takes two guitarists to play because the fewer the different notes, the more guitars you need, or something.
He's s very Serious musician indeed
King Crimson is not just a band, it's a school of music. What a piece, what a performance!
As his lead said: King Crimson is just a way to do the things.
They're one the most powerful stands too
ur right mai fella
Can't believe the stage didn't collapse under the weight of all that talent
❤❤❤❤❤
That's the idea I guess
What the hell. Who does that? Builds tension by plucking just one note. Going up a half step or a step. For several minutes. That's so bold and ballsy. Fripp, playing for the music, and even though an incredibly gifted chop-master, he never flexes, he services the song. This song is absolutely amazing.
A genius, that's who.
Many people. I’ve heard similar tension-building exercises in thousands of songs across dozens of genres.
Roger Hodgson, for one. Check out his piano playing in Crime of the Century by Supertramp. Another great example is Shadow of the Hierophant by Steve Hackett. But, you're right, it's amazing when it's done well.
See them live if you can. Amazing
Seems like some people took your question literally xdd i dont know if they don't understand english language or what but auch reaction is interesting :p
Now to those people: without Fripp there wouldn't be other artists performing in similar epic way :)
Or at least it would be much different in terms of music today.
Never forget... This is 3 of the best drummers on the planet, working together to cover Bill Buford's amazing work...
Bruford!....no! ...and harrison tops him in my opinion!!!! ...and much others ... 3drummers inst. bRuford 😅😅😅🤣
@@a.g.1970do you mean George Harrison? ….no!!! 🤣
@@rhythmfield gavin 🤣🤣
@@a.g.1970 I knew that 😎- I just think comparing these master Drummers to each other is a schoolboy thing, we can probably move beyond that at this point…
@@rhythmfield ...deine persönliche Meinung!
Mit freundlichen Grüssen
Three drummers playing simultaneously in 13/8, not something you see every day
all right
And one of them is Gavin fucking Harrison
I think one is 4/4 and another is 7/8
15*
Tool's drummer can outplay all three of them no joke
What in the world have I just stumbled upon. I've heard a couple of King Crimson songs in my lifetime. Lots of Supertramp, Fleetwood, Rush, Tom Petty, Led Zep, The Police, Mercyful Fate, Deep Purple, etc. This is so wonderful. I don't really have words to express what I'm going through right now listening to and watching this rendition but needless to say, I'm going into a full King Crimson journey now. What a band. Thank you for this music.
Just be careful - the KC rabbit hole is pretty, pretty deep. Enjoy!
You stumbled upon insanity born of genius. It could be very cheerful if you have guile
Les pères du ROCK progressif tout comme YES des Monstres 🙏
@@semaijeanpierresemal5977 Sauf qu’à la différence de Yes (que j’adore évidemment), KC a toujours produit de la qualité, et ce, de façon constante et malgré les époques (et les goûts) changeants.
have a nice trip
It is a ritual of mine to come back every now and then to witness this spectacle live.
rip john wetton. one of the greatest and best crimson vocalist. never forgotten.
still one of the best vocalists ever
and RIP greg lake too
Tough call between Greg and John on vocals. Both excellent bassists, too. RIP. :(
I prefer Greg Lake.
Loved wetton
This is the best KC song in my opinion. The most complicated, the most difficult and interesting in its structure and beautiful in the wide landscape of sound. The best masterpiece in history of music
Nah!
@@andythomas706 Poignant
I also think so 🙂🤣🙂
I fully agree.Thanks.
Starless is also my favorite. But Fracture is definitely harder
Tragically, my Uncle John died in a house fire a few years ago..On his Tombstone, he has the word "Starless". The stone was put in before his death..I never knew what it meant......until now..Im heartbroken..I never knew about his dark depression. I think Im gonna grab a few beers and toast his good name while playing this song at his resting place.. GODBLESS YOU FOREVER "UNK" I Love & Miss You. Just wanted to share.thanks! E.Novoczynski Scranton, P.A
What a beautiful thought. He will hear you I am sure.
@@barrytaylor3097 I love your idea and yes, I am also sure he will hear you. And it will probably be good for you as well.
Well this piece brought me to the brink of tears, and your comment clinched it.
I’ll have a beer with you mate, God bless
RIP Unk
@@clivehorridge Thanks so much for you're heart felt comment...Its really a good feeling that other's cld identify with another's brokeness...Stay Positive! & May God Bless You my Friend, Ed.N
Rip. To your uncle
Cheers to you man . ill take a shot for you 👍❤👽
Song Meaning;
This song is simply about the futility of living. It closed one of the most powerful chapters in progressive rock history and with it closed the most intriguing chapter of King Crimson.
The first verse refers to the brightness of adolescent life, of the demure touch of a beautiful sunny day to spark one's imagination, but the verse reveals that a bright and enthusiastic world does not export its beauty to you. All things that world promised you fade to black and you are lifeless in a sunny world.
The second verse confirms that sadness will extrapolate over all of your desires and dreams, that your life will retain the emptiness and the lack of meaning over time, the bright disingenuity of younger days will never shine on you again
The third verse is the most interesting as it hauntingly describes the poisoning of the soul by which no helping hand or smile could rescind the damage that has been done to you by the world and by time, true hopelessness has ensued.
The chorus of the song is a very interesting metaphor. In the most unequivocal sense it means that your skies have become starless for nothing you will see will ever compel you again - and so it entails that you are stained bible black. Whatever spirituality or happy hopes in the world exist that could have placated you are dead and black, but held habitually by time and empty hope.
Finally the most important verse of all - the one spoken by Robert Fripp. The monotone squeal of his guitar piece that occupies the next 5 or so minutes after the third verse is like the progression of time from months, to years, to decades.
The child who acknowledged the dying of his world has lived a zombie all his life and finally sees the inexorability of his own death in his final hour after an age of emptiness.
The last 3 minutes of the song are powerful but the last minute postulated absolute death. It is the most powerful minute in Rock history and probably a contributor to such events like Kurt Cobain committing suicide, Cobain regarded this album 'Red' as the greatest rock album of all time...
...When that last minute hits you, you finally taste the pathos of the character described in the song, because you see that character to be you. You see your own death, and the worthlessness of your own life, it is beautiful, terrifying, and on an implicit level - why most people love this song to death.
This song ended a golden age Thank you to anyone who took the time to read this
(i took this songmeaning from the internet, its not mine ;) )
Dude, I was completely blown away by your comment, oh my god🤯
@@thatsui5557he literally copied and pasted it lol
@@ethanlam8186 guess ive been a bit tricked then haha😅 the song still incredible though
Well said
What an incredible description of this song. Thanks so much for this. It is a deep, sorrowful song but is still brilliant.
So professional, so fancy, such a elite of musicians. Starless is such a gem.
the word "cultured" springs to mind.
Real
This is the saddest and most beautiful music ever written. I feel sad today like never before for no apparent reason and came here. Thank you, KC.
I guess Fripp can be classified as the epitome of the "non-front" man, always sitting to the side and doing his magic.
in order to do his thing, he needs to be in his "zone" :D
Fripp has always been the non-front front man of the band (unlike Belew who imagined he was the front man of KC).
@@AP-sd1fl Wel, that's because he was.
I love how many facial expressions the singer does when singing. He looks like he's having a lot of fun
I love the way he sings the word black ❤️👍😊🇦🇺
Tony Levin - Perfection on the bass. Just enough to set the mood, not overplayed.... And he dresses with style :)
Yes, he's really great!
God damn he's good. Flawless, really
Saw him With KC on this tourney also i had the chance to see him played with Peter gabriel at Nice jazz festival and i still remembre the class of this giant bassman
Robert fripp is a Genius, excellent guitar player
Do u kno what pedals hes using to make it sound like hes using an ebow?
Genial, así de simple, genial..
@@krookiemonster2673 he uses a synthesizer-pickup made to emulate the melotrone sound.
@@Toffen71 Wrong. It's called a Sustainer built into a Fenandez Les Paul. It works like an Ebow, except it spreads the magnetic field over all 6 strings.
@@krookiemonster2673 It's called a Sustainer. built into Fernandez guitars. It's like an EBow but it spreads the magnetic field out over all 6 strings.
Just saw an RIP here for John Wetton, which is wonderful, but let's not forget Greg Lake. This group got started with him and, needless to say, he went on to other great musical projects. God bless both Greg and John -- two of the many Gods of progressive music.
KC has always been a supergroup...... everyone who ever played in this band is a legend of prog
Greg and John-thank you.Rest in Peace.
RIP drummer Bill Rieflin, ( seen here on video) and founding member Ian McDonald
"Red" album, masterpiece never gets old.
Let's not forget that this song is originally from John Wetton. Fripp and Buford didn't want it... Thanks John for this master piece.
It wasnt Fully by John. As far as i understand the buffomundo Interview right He wrote that Song Part at the start But the Central Section was added later as an collaborative effort
I miss John Wetton he was later heard in UK and the band Asia he did great songs in every band he played in such a great bassist and vocalist
John Wetton was a genius bass player guitarist and songwriter.
@@KevanRCraft That is true
Fair to say Fripp eventually warmed up to it!
Saw them perform this in Toronto a few years ago and it blew my mind. The best concert I've been to in my whole life.
They released a recording of a Toronto concert (this group). Beautifully recording quality.
I saw them live in Roma around 15 years ago and I feel exactly the same, I was probably smiling a little more with the Rolling Stones or George Clinton but, in strictly music terms, Crimson's show was the greatest live music event in my life
For prog lovers too
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You need to shift away from this mainstream tepid prog, whole world of music out there that makes Crimson look dull as dishwater.
I saw the same at Buenos Aires, Argentina.
This song is a journey. It has everything.
10:41 Maybe I'm just crazy, but I didn't know guitars could make such an otherworldly sound. It sounds hellish, but not ugly in the slightest, just fascinating. It's like the guitar turns into multiple instruments at once. Again, maybe I'm just crazy (?)
You're not , Fripp was for those few seconds though , dude made the guitar scream and wail at the same time
I can see how you’d be surprised. It’s definitely a unique yet amazing sound.
People don’t realize how much experimentation you can do and how drastically you can change the sound. Electric guitars are fascinating in their capabilities of producing all sorts of different sounds. You just have to take the time to experiment with different equipment and untraditional setups. Then have the balls to record or play live with the unique sound you created.
You'd go crazy if you listened to Glen branca lol. Guitars can do some really awful (in the best way possible) sounds sometimes, bands like sonic youth and swans did a lot of noise with their guitars and made some of the most disturbing music in the 80s if youd like to listen to something like that
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@@chinchirapI know you from Instagram!
Iam 55 now & have only just heard this track, have listened to a lot of music over my time but have never heard anything so amazing as this & because of this I am now now working my way through the King Crimson albums...👍
Good luck, it's worth the effort, but not easy 👍
There is something in King Crimson and specially on Fripp that is really creepy, but strangely addictive. And this is awesome.
I used to just like their first album, In The Court of the Crimson King, but I decided to listen to a bit more and discovered that I also love a lot of their later works. Even though some of my favorite bands like the Ramones and Green Day seemed to decrease in quality over the time, King Crimson managed to stay very consistent with making great music! Love the stuff!
So glad I got see them last year in London after 40 years. And just WOW! Fripp, is just amazing, as is the whole band. Three drummers upfront too, beyond awesome!
After all these years, Robert is doing everything he ever wanted to do live all at once. Godlike. Best Crimson ever and I saw them live a month ago.
hifibrony best KC was THRAK.
@@manco828 The best KC is the one you like most.
Personally, I'd go for the core trio of Fripp, Wetton & Bruford (of Red), plus Cross, plus-or-minus Muir (Larks Tongues, Starless & Bible Black).
That said, Fripp, Bruford, Belew & Levin were terrific when I saw them on the Discipline tour, back in Oct. 1981.
My lord - this is fantastic. Peak music peak musicianship.
Nothing like it
If there is one song, that makes me feel HAPPY and SAD at the same time the moment when I close my eyes, it is this one. goosebumps ..goosebumps
This is orgasmic. Tension building, pounding 3 drumset convoluted percussion, plateaus, the note bouncing back and forth between two guitars, the slightly straining vocals, the final landing back into the theme. I'd heard this song on the album many times before, but seeing it performed is the most exciting musical performance I've ever witnessed - and every time I listen and watch I enjoy it more.
Crimson music still super fresh even today!!!
Can't fathom the idea of how sweet it'd sound in person
Such a beautiful and emotional piece
One of the best balanced bass tones I've heard in a while.
Just take this as the piece of musical genius that it is, it touches so many emotions.
Saw them yesterday live in Mexico City. One of the best concerts of my life. They are going to play 5 times this weekin Mexico. Gods.
Best prog band Ever.
the first part of their story , between "In the Court" and "Red", is a incredible line of masterpieces.
Not just prog, they're played like a jazz tho
@@solarpower26 Prog is based out of multiple genres. For this reason many prog bands sound jazzy, classical and so on.
Although throughout its existence it was a very unstable band
Honestly, I think this is the best rendition of Starless. Even better than the studio version
The version with John Wetton on bass and vocals is hard-wired into my soul.
the studio version does the 3rd section better imo
Nothing beats the heavy bass in the outro of the studio version.
@@sophiafake-virus2456 I love their version.
Limp bass that is only in the left ear, almost joyous sounding vocals, weak build up?? Fripp is great as always and drums are passable but this is half the recording of the original
Rewinds me back to my youth(1971).
King Crimson, best prog rock band ever
Well duh !..lol
Best stand
The real king
When you ask what kind of band King Crimson is, the only true answer is, "King Crimson."
What about camel
Q How can a single repeated note on the guitar be so powerful and enthralling?
A Because it's Robert Fripp
After creating those beautiful sounds he get's to go home to the lovely Toya. .....justified reward !
I love Steve Howe's facial expressions, but Robert Fripp's stone cold but emotive precision is a thing of beauty, too ♥‿♥
@Crimson Lens OFFICIALI love good music and the people who make it 🤷
Howe's playing from the guts, Fripp from the brain. Howe will always be my favourite guitarist.
John voce da Brividi!!!
Emotive precision, perfectly said
Another guitar player with a stone cold face is Uli Jon Roth of Scorpions. When I see their videos that feature him, it’s what I notice is his calm demeanor while excellently playing that guitar.
Certainly one of the greatest live performances of all time.
I've been watching them since 1969, getting better all the time
There is only one word that comes to mind listening to this, MASTERPIECE. Thank you Robert and John, Tony and the rest….truly mind blowing!
This is my 3rd favorite song of all time
The first one is Starless (Paris, 22.03.74)
The second one is Starless (original studio version)
Hi. Do you know Where I couke find that version from Paris?
@@jhonnatanmontano2921 th-cam.com/video/qYJpY_xvLf8/w-d-xo.html
how many drummers you need?
King Crimson: YES.
So... Bill?
Music simply does not get better than this . . . .
and what a tribute to the world, a sky devoid of stars...
Loved Genesis and PeteGab, but was unaware of this band until a couple of weeks. Tonight I just saw their concert at the GreekTheater… what a band, what a show! Very moving music, kinda transe like. Excellent!
this recording is unbelievable! thank you for posting!
A classic from here to eternity. One of the monuments in progressive rock.Timeless !
Today is the 50 anniversary of King Crimson first album ,, In the court of the Crimson King''. TY
I’m known as a folkie, but people would be amazed to know that Crimson is my favorite group. The sheer musicality of these people is undeniable.
WOW! Saw them at The Albert Hall last night. When you have 3 drummers up front, you know your in for something special! Fantastic to see them again after 45 years, amazing gig! I told my wife we were going to see a string quartet - HAHAHA!
This song moves me in a personal level. I'm sad I won't be able to see them in Mexico City but I hope to listen Starless live someday. My favorite band ❤️
Update: I was able to finally see them in August 2019, Mexico City 🤗😍
De verdad fueron conciertos soberbios
+Reyna Pacheco they just went there for a week. Did you see them?
Nobody cares
It's so powerful right!
Van a volvrr
When music that cannot be played comes along, King Crimson comes along to play it.
Pinakamalupet. Its my first time hearing this band, all my life, all the music ive heard in this world, i heard it here, more beatiful, complete yearning, fills in the nook and cranny, and what an experience...for free...you set me free...King Crimson
Welcome to the rabbithole! Have an open mind (they can get _very_ experimental) and, most importantly, enjoy the ride!
Now we have two classic versions. How lucky are KC fans?
Awesome version of one of my favorite K.Crimson tunes.
The definiton of elite instrument players, truly professional, talented, creative. Too bad we no longer see musicians like this in the mainstream media.
I was 14 when first heard and truly listened to King Crimson...and though difficult and distorted....l found a thread through...once l had that...the rest is history..always top class thoughtful music...that does take time to fully appreciate....but when you do...just lovely, one floats and still do...at 66 years old..the feeling inside of what it can do never changes ...only people and problems..the stars are normally bright on a clear night even when a clouds covers them...but never alters the fact that they are there...no matter what. The same can be said of this music...Great👍👍👍👏👏
Sounds like the studio version, the sound is so clean
RIP Bill Rieflin. Absolute fire on this performance.
Bill Rieflin, what a player. RIP
I can't even begin to explain how much this song matters to me.
That to me is the perfect song. Everything about it. Just amazing. I’ve had this album for years and still listen to it.
God, emotional tears are rolling from my eyes.
BRILLIANT! Fripp never nailed his genius guitar signature so perfectly, every bend and vibrato is perfection.
The whole band stepped up to match his finesse. Viva Crimson!
RIP Bill Rieflin, forever missed
Mel Collins on saxophone is always great.
Truly phenomenal, and a great guy too
Lyrics:
Sundown dazzling day
Gold through my eyes
But my eyes turned within only see
Starless and bible black
Ice blue silver sky
Fades into grey
To a grey hope that all yearns to be
Starless and bible black
[music intro]
Old friend charity
Cruel twisted smile
And the smile signals emptiness for me
Starless and bible black
[epic music]
x WaZzo спасибо, друг/ thank, brother
Poignant verses Profound They touched me deep down inside
"Bible black" could have been "Bible bleak". Just emptiness and not much charity around, when the Bible is.
I think on the second verse it's "To a grey hope that oh yearns to be"
I'm already so old, I've wasted my life listening to the Stones & Co.
Ashes on my head.
The movie MANDY brought me here.
STARLESS is brilliant.
How beautiful they play "Starless"! It is absolutely fascinating!
Robert Fripp...perfect sound...
Best version of this song.
This is a fabulous song. I have no clue how Fripp makes that beautiful sound come from his guitar though.
He practices his scales like a good boy. Also he invented his own tuning and strings (they're the only strings that won't snap when he plays in his own tuning lol)
Just that sustain...
I love that effect!
I can't see an Ebow in his right hand so he is probably using a Fernandes Sustainer to get those long-sustaining violin tones. I googled the question and found a post on The Gear Page that said that for the past 30 years he has played with a Fernandes sustainer pickup in his guitars. So while not 100% certain, this is likely how he is doing it.
GIBSON🤷♂️
@@tomcope1459 Crimson Guitars has a video review of his personal Guitar, which is absolutely tricked out (synth, sustainer, all the cutoffs, taps and knobs and everything in between)
But it's not the one he used in this concert
This song is totally brilliant. Can listen to it everyday!
I saw this live and Mastelloto's drumming was wonderful made my cry.
me too, and they were kind enough to bring us back to earth
Absolutely one of the most haunting melodies ever played on electric guitar !!!###
King Crimsom, band with sensational creativity and musicality. Geniuses !
Saw the in Chile last year and couldn't help but crying during the freakout... the lights went red and the terrible cacophony was awe inspiring... Never could have dreamed it so perfect.
It was perfect, perfection
Fuck, They were here? :(
Sadly i didn't become a King Crimson fan earlier...
@@october1820 si bro, tocaron en el Movistar, fue hermoso... Ojalá giren de nuevo por latam pronto
this theme is quite amazing and lives in time
It's 2020 and I find that I can comment this EPIC Song now, what a surprise.
Ça fait toujours plaisir et ça fait longtemps que je ne l'avais pas écouté, bravo !! 😊 ❤
Grandiose, great, wonderful! Geniusly! The true rock music! My soul is somewhere in space!
Hoy many bass players do you need to play with Gavin Harrison, Pat Mastelotto and Bill Rieflin ?
One, as long as he's Tony Levin.
Wow somebody actually remembered base player's name.
👏BRING 👏BACK 👏TREY 👏GUNN 👏SO 👏THEY 👏CAN 👏PLAY 👏MORE 👏THRAK 👏SONGS👏
@Eric White Elephant Talk.....it's aaaallllllll talk>
@Colin Baker You are welcome to your opinions, of course. And I'd be very surprised if even one other responding soul here would second that opinion. Rather, I'd think any respectable musician worth his/her salt would recognize Tony Levin as being one of the most most appreciated & sought-after bassists of all time. A fraud? That would only be you, I'm sad to point out.
Colin Baker Your comment is, of course, a joke, correct?
One of my favorite song...! Thanks King Crimson to be part of my life!
I Stiller cant believe that i saw this concert in monaco. Was unforgetable
Been listening to KC since the 80s when I bought “ITCOTCK” purely because I found the cover terrifying...when I put it on, terror made place for infatuation,fascination,inspiration,....all by KC....saw them live with Adrian Belew,RF,Bruford,Mastelotto,Trey Gunn and Tony Levin.....
King Crimson has flown over my head for my whole life. I cant believe I'm just stumbling upon this amazing band. I have dove head in and I cant get out! I'm full blown addicted to King Crimson. After spending my whole life in the jamband scene with bands like the grateful dead Nd phish king Crimson is blowing my mind!!! Going to see them for the first time ever in September and I cant wait!
King Crimson would play a 2 minute version or an 11 minute version of the same song . in different Concerts . Enjoy Prog Rock .
Welcome aboard. A fan for decades here. Saw them 3 times. One of my all time favorite bands. In my collection is everything they ever recorded. Plus a lot of the bootlegs from DGM, if those are still out there. I even bought a bootleg of the very concert I attended in '84. It's here somewhere.
@@octofish Great band great improvisation live or studio .Fripp drew consistently top talent around him . Played songs in many different styles , yet only played dynamic and ambient in the same way repetitively, yet managed a range of variety . Wish i had seen them once .
Same, this video came up on my recommendations a week ago, and I thought why not? I have since listened to a couple of albums, done a few covers of their music, and researched their history. What an awesome band!
No one like them
What a mesmerizing performance by these masters. Incredible job on the nonintrusive camera work!
What a beautiful song
This composition is devastatingly beautiful. It always moves me to tears.
R.I.P. Bill Rieflin :(
The person running the sound board is a genius as well....
Wonderful balance
Hermoso tema, sin duda un recital de alta gama con King Crimson en Movistar Arena 2019.
Best King Crimson singer in a long time.
FINALLY! Someone who appreciates the sheer beauty and power of Jakko's voice!
One of the best guitar riffs of all time! And Wetton's vocals in this recording were his best ever. (I read that Wetton wanted this on the LP ' Starless and Bible Black' but Fripp did not think it was good enough! And I finish by saying this live version is EXCELLENT.