@@FearNoSteel So what's the deal? I have this knife, are you not holding it at an angle because of its convex edge? Are you supposed to just sharpen the entire knife on all sides with little to no angle?
MovieBane I don‘t get it either. Both of their channels give either bad or no explanation. DBK focuses more on comedy rather than proper explanations. Brown Bear just does it with rare information about the process itself.
I am just starting my journey into convex sharpening (I am not that great at flat edge sharpening either. I just picked up an A1 PRO and found your channel. I have seen this video and your video on convex sharpening. What is the difference between the techniques used in this video and the convex sharpening video? I notice that at the start you had mentioned this was not your sharpening technique. I think you are showing the technique for polishing? But I think I also see some work on the apex? Anytime you are sharpening a convex edge to get out dings and chips, would you just sharpen the apex? Or would you work the whole bevel?
There is far too much bullshit on convex sharpening and it's almost like trying to argue religion I almost don't even engage with comments like this just because of how mind numbingly ridiculous the conversation has gotten about convex sharpening and people reading on forums all kinds of dumb shit. You put an edge on there like normal whatever angle you would like if you need a thinner angle or thicker angle depends on your use you figure that out with what you're cutting if the knife is not cutting good go thinner if the knife is getting damaged easier go thicker there's nothing magic about that. After you've established the angle you then blend that bevel into the main bevel so it flows as one continuous convex angle all the way to the edge that's all there is to it no if, ands or buts about it. The end
@@FearNoSteel Thanks for the quick reply! That settles it for me. I can appreciate how answering can be annoying and can be considered as inviting others to disagree. Do you have any tips when blending the bevel? Should I be changing the angle every stroke? Or do a few strokes and then change the angle/loosen the wrist?
Cool. So what exactly are you doing here to preserve your convex? All I see is as if you we're sharpening a V edge when you get close to the edge. Help me out : ) Also, what's the music?
I'll do a in depth video about convex sharpening discussing the details. Basically going back and forth on the stone makes a convex edge. The shoulders are blended into the grind. The music is by La cassette awesome retro tunes :)
Why in the world were you grinding and polishing your entire primary bevel? When you were actually honing the edge you do realize your knife is convex ground and not beveled right?
Big Brown Guy I own 7 Fallkniven knives one of which is the A1 Pro yes. Why do you ask? I just happened across your video when it popped up as the next video in line while I was making a cup of coffee. Anyway, you didn't answer my question, why are you trying to grind on and polish the entire primary bevel. Part two was on your sharpening technique it looks like your trying to grind a secondary microbevel into your convex edge. Nothing wrong with a measured bevel edge but these knives come with convex edges for a reason. They're a working/survival knife. Convex edges are strong and utilitarian. This knife is not meant to be a box cutter. To each their own I guess, just my opinion. Not to say convex edges can't be scary sharp, I know they can. But when you degrade the convex grind by putting a set bevel into it your edge will break down much faster. Just saying with the technique you just used that's exactly what you did. You ground the primary bevel straight then set the secondary bevel separate from the primary getting rid of the rounded convex and setting a double bevel on your knife.
TJ 87 Nice, if you lay a flat edge on the primary grind on you're A1 Pro, then You'll notice that the convex starts just a Quarter inch above the microbevel. My Sharpening is explained better here th-cam.com/video/UhD6gb2Dako/w-d-xo.html
TJ 87BTW, don't over complicate it. all I did was sharpen to remove the microbevel and blended it into the primary grind. It is still convex. Its the same process as sharpening an axe. also look up Japanese Hamaguriba edges. sounds like your knives need some sharpening. ;)
Big Brown Guy I agree. What I was saying unless I just missed something, which has been known to happen :) when you ground flat on the primary grind and then ground flat again to set your apex (microbevel) then where those two flat grinds meet it will create a double bevel right? Squaring off your convex shoulder. My technique is just a little different is all I'm saying, I guess. When I sharpen my fallknivens I start at my apex and kind of gradually tilt the spine down closer to the stone as I go. Not a lot mind you, just enough to follow the factory grind of the rounded shoulder of that makes sense. That way I know my convex is staying as true to factory convex shape as I can. The spine only actually "rounds" (moves down toward the stone) about an 1/8 of an inch. I'll see if I can take some decent pictures of one of them all finished with the polished edge. I'm still curious why you wanted to polish your whole primary grind though.
very very good video mate! extremely nice finish with those stones even without stropping. You could make this a perfect mirror easily.
+Dutch Bushcraft Knives
Thanks bro :)
I've seen better on your channel ;)
I rushed it to much on the 400 grit and 1000 grit.
@@FearNoSteel So what's the deal? I have this knife, are you not holding it at an angle because of its convex edge? Are you supposed to just sharpen the entire knife on all sides with little to no angle?
MovieBane I don‘t get it either. Both of their channels give either bad or no explanation. DBK focuses more on comedy rather than proper explanations. Brown Bear just does it with rare information about the process itself.
Adrian Wosniak they said to have a loose wrist and let the angle change up a few degrees.
That is really sharp for a big knife. Great job!
Fantastic; very enjoyable. Could you please post a link to the vendor website for the various stones you are using? Thanks. -S
"if there is more interest, I'll do a "how to" vid"
you have to ! ;-)
+lnfk
Haha sure! :)
Chosera 400 grit
King 1000, 3000 and 6000 grit
Finished off with leather strop.
Great video, love your technique👍
wow you are crazy serious with the sharpening :)
Hell yea :)
Watch my other videos for more sharpening info.
I plan on sharing a ton of info in the future as well
the ozric tentacles sound makes it godly
"if there is more interest, I'll do a "how to" vid"
Please do. :)
Great Video,
I hope you will get many more subscribers soon.
Thanks Peter, I hope so too :)
I am just starting my journey into convex sharpening (I am not that great at flat edge sharpening either. I just picked up an A1 PRO and found your channel. I have seen this video and your video on convex sharpening.
What is the difference between the techniques used in this video and the convex sharpening video? I notice that at the start you had mentioned this was not your sharpening technique. I think you are showing the technique for polishing? But I think I also see some work on the apex?
Anytime you are sharpening a convex edge to get out dings and chips, would you just sharpen the apex? Or would you work the whole bevel?
There is far too much bullshit on convex sharpening and it's almost like trying to argue religion I almost don't even engage with comments like this just because of how mind numbingly ridiculous the conversation has gotten about convex sharpening and people reading on forums all kinds of dumb shit.
You put an edge on there like normal whatever angle you would like if you need a thinner angle or thicker angle depends on your use you figure that out with what you're cutting if the knife is not cutting good go thinner if the knife is getting damaged easier go thicker there's nothing magic about that. After you've established the angle you then blend that bevel into the main bevel so it flows as one continuous convex angle all the way to the edge that's all there is to it no if, ands or buts about it. The end
@@FearNoSteel Thanks for the quick reply! That settles it for me. I can appreciate how answering can be annoying and can be considered as inviting others to disagree.
Do you have any tips when blending the bevel? Should I be changing the angle every stroke? Or do a few strokes and then change the angle/loosen the wrist?
did you destroy the factory-convex edge with the stones ???
Nope
thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Well done!
Thanks man :)
What is the angle you use to sharpen your fallkniven?
+Hunter 17 dps = 34 degree inclusive.
For how I use my knives, this gives me maximum sharpness and durability.
Thank you for your quick reply,
Just wondering when sharpening an A1 should i push a burr and then put in a micro bevel or just stay behind the micro bevel? thanks
always burr
which stoned are these ? Can you write ? I can't listen to the video. thank you in advance
+lnfk
Naniwa Professional 400
King 1k,6k
Suehiro 3k
+lnfk
Naniwa Professional 400
King 1k,6k
Suehiro 3k
Big Brown
thank you ;-)
Cool. So what exactly are you doing here to preserve your convex? All I see is as if you we're sharpening a V edge when you get close to the edge. Help me out : )
Also, what's the music?
I'll do a in depth video about convex sharpening discussing the details.
Basically going back and forth on the stone makes a convex edge. The shoulders are blended into the grind.
The music is by La cassette awesome retro tunes :)
That would be cool. Thanks
I forgot to ask, where did you get those tunes? Itunes?
Sharpblade new wave retro on TH-cam. It's a cool genre.
How do you keep track of what angle you are sharpening in?
Practice
Why in the world were you grinding and polishing your entire primary bevel? When you were actually honing the edge you do realize your knife is convex ground and not beveled right?
TJ 87 do you own this knife?
Big Brown Guy I own 7 Fallkniven knives one of which is the A1 Pro yes. Why do you ask? I just happened across your video when it popped up as the next video in line while I was making a cup of coffee. Anyway, you didn't answer my question, why are you trying to grind on and polish the entire primary bevel. Part two was on your sharpening technique it looks like your trying to grind a secondary microbevel into your convex edge. Nothing wrong with a measured bevel edge but these knives come with convex edges for a reason. They're a working/survival knife. Convex edges are strong and utilitarian. This knife is not meant to be a box cutter. To each their own I guess, just my opinion. Not to say convex edges can't be scary sharp, I know they can. But when you degrade the convex grind by putting a set bevel into it your edge will break down much faster. Just saying with the technique you just used that's exactly what you did. You ground the primary bevel straight then set the secondary bevel separate from the primary getting rid of the rounded convex and setting a double bevel on your knife.
TJ 87 Nice, if you lay a flat edge on the primary grind on you're A1 Pro, then You'll notice that the convex starts just a Quarter inch above the microbevel.
My Sharpening is explained better here
th-cam.com/video/UhD6gb2Dako/w-d-xo.html
TJ 87BTW, don't over complicate it. all I did was sharpen to remove the microbevel and blended it into the primary grind. It is still convex. Its the same process as sharpening an axe. also look up Japanese Hamaguriba edges. sounds like your knives need some sharpening. ;)
Big Brown Guy I agree. What I was saying unless I just missed something, which has been known to happen :) when you ground flat on the primary grind and then ground flat again to set your apex (microbevel) then where those two flat grinds meet it will create a double bevel right? Squaring off your convex shoulder. My technique is just a little different is all I'm saying, I guess. When I sharpen my fallknivens I start at my apex and kind of gradually tilt the spine down closer to the stone as I go. Not a lot mind you, just enough to follow the factory grind of the rounded shoulder of that makes sense. That way I know my convex is staying as true to factory convex shape as I can. The spine only actually "rounds" (moves down toward the stone) about an 1/8 of an inch. I'll see if I can take some decent pictures of one of them all finished with the polished edge. I'm still curious why you wanted to polish your whole primary grind though.
One day you will cut your hand .... Y lo sabes!
Men get cut, not a big deal. One day you"ll know xD