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Can The Benelli Leoncino Trail 500 Scramble? (Good Beginner Bike?)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ส.ค. 2024
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Honestly, Spite's review of the Benelli sounded like my wife right before I go sleep on the couch: "it's fine...it's fine..."
Yeah, I started to notice it around the halfway mark lol
That fella is absolutely clueless about motorcycles unless it’s a crappy Harley. Complete clown show.
Rebound damping adjustment is under the right side cover, and also accessible from the top when you remove the seat. It makes a BIG difference in how soft or hard the shock feels. I don’t get you at all when you say the bike responds better when braking before a curve. Just counter steer and the bike is perfectly responsive. Plus, those tourance tires steer very slowly. I have some Mitas big blocks on mine and it makes the bike far more fun on the street and in the dirt especially. They have a quicker turn in than the tourance on the street, and the big blocks provide tons of traction off road.
Also you might want to list your weight. I’m 280 and the suspension is damn near perfect for me.
ABS button is on the handlebars, as your video pointed out. When stopped hold it for 3 seconds to disable ABS.
Finally, you can reprogram the speedometer to display accurate speeds. (It’s off by 10.7% on the trail model). Just hold both buttons and turn the key on. Code ccc123 gets you into the setup menu.
I believe he is deep down biased against this bike cuz it's built in China. But so is his pov camera he used to make that video. And the laptop he used to upload it. I have met many people online bashing Benelli and laughing at Chinese car companies in general. But they don't realize that they're getting better every day. They have moved away from copy cat designs and are now making their own cars that are priced very very competitively and offer many features standard vs Japanese cars.
Mitas? What model? E-07/08 or MC-24?
@@ahmedshahab4105 someone said that bikes are still designed in Italy and china does the production and return to Italy for quality inspection
@@udontknowme1654 yeah I own one. They're good bikes.
Love the looks of this bike. I'm also interested in the Husqvarna 401 and XSR700. this current blend of modern and retro is a look I hope stays around for a while.
After a few weeks of research those are my exact same choices for a beginner bike for myself. I Messed around on a 250cc 2-stroke Honda dirtbike for a while when I was a kid so I'm leaning towards the bigger and more peppy XSR myself.
Im watching this while using good quality headphones, and I'm impressed with the sound that this bike makes. If i was blindfolded I would assume im hearing a 3 cylinder bike. I've never heard a 2 cylinder making this nice sound.
Its the sound of a 360 crank like old british twins, both pistons rise and fall together.
Love all these benelli videos! Keep them coming and could you get the non trail version and do a comparison? Thanks!
I thought his was the nine trail version of the Leoneico?
As owner of Leoncino Trail I agree with everything what was said. It is great beginner bike. Fun on road, it can be used in light offroad. But as I'm testing other bikes lately I can notice that it doesn't flick from side to side as quickly, the suspension is stiff and offroading is good only in slow speed. Still it's great bike. I would recommended to anyone. Even for tall riders. I'm 191 cm tall.
Tires make a huge difference when it comes to flicking side to side, could just need a good set of clickable tires.
*flickable
"There's not a lot between my knees there. Which is a bit of a bummer." - t. Spite, colourised, 2022
(Timestamp 1:57)
How about a test ride review of the Rebel 500 ?? Papa yams did a comedy piece on the Rebel 300 and 500 which was good for laughs but really didn’t explore or fairly evaluate the Rebel 500 adequately. If a Bennelli 500 deserves a test ride review then certainly the Rebel 500 does too😊
O yea ..that's for sure ...
I am quite a bit biased because I own one but I absolutely love the Rebel 500. I think the Honda 500 engine works really good in the Rebel because the bike doesn’t pretent to be a sporty bike. It has good midrange power and a good throttle response. At cruising speed I am usally shortshifting it and keep the engine at a low RPM. But you also have adequate passing power if you use the full RPM range of the engine. The bike has a low center of gravity so it feels very light and nimble especially when you are driving it through city traffic. The super low seat height makes it perfect for beginner riders because you can flat foot the bike even if you are a very short person. My only complaints would be that the stock seat is not that comfortable and the front brakes could use a bit more power when driving with a passenger. Other than that a nice beginner friendly bike but also a good commuter bike.
@@marcelpursche5339 as from India Honda's 500 series is not here at all .. it could have been a good choice but their bikes r too expensive in india a cb300r costs similar to ninja 300 .. the re 650s and ktm 390s even Benelli does better pricing .
Yep, very good review. I love scrambling and not having soft suspension or knobs is part of the fun, the challenge. Never under anything gnarly, that is for dirt bikes and Mtbs
Well you also have the svartpilen as a scrambler
The husky is amazing on road , but i do don't wish to take it offroad ever again
Also the gear issue is specific to the unit I believe, the gear box is pretty slick.. but it’s a very linear motor and one most important thing about this motor is tractability.. on it’s bulkier sibling TRK 502 , it can pull from as low as 20 kmph on 4th gear… plus these Benelli’s are built like tank.. I feel like they are LADAs of motorcycles.. a suggestion to folks planning a benelli 502, not it’s not meant for off road, it’s okay with some rough roaring but not an enduro motorcycle, it’s hefty and motor does not have enough torque in lower bands of RPM
Extremely handsome in this age of FREAK bikes.
I bought this exact bike a month ago in little Rock brand new , and so far I love it . But I have only used it on the street , enuff power for me , good on fuel and the price was good $6399.
I have the 2020 and so far off road is a bit shakey, but my biggest problem with this bike is that the seat comes free when riding it a lot. I know that sounds like a small problem but picture cruising down the road at 110 k and all of a sudden your seat is free floating. What I would replace is the head light which is just pretty bad, another annoying part of the bike is the fuel gauge which goes from half tank to warning light. Otherwise love it.
Can you please also do a review on the new Leoncino 800 trail? Thanks.
This dude sat down the whole off road segment. Good luck back
I just bought the 2022 for my first bike I'm happy with my purchase
Oh, it can :) of course it’s not a desert sled cause of considerably smaller clearance. But apart from that, it’s really, really capable.
because of your old videos on it I'll be getting the honda rebel 1100, its my first "real bike" but I've ridden dirt bikes and have ridden a kawaski vulcan 800
"There's not much between my knees here, which is a bit of a bummer... but I don't really need much between my knees" - Spite
This one's gonna end up on the Yamcast
I thought "I'm surely not the only one who heard that."
@@wubstepgrandma someone shout me out on there if I make it😂😂
Beautiful bike!!!
Amazing review :)
Maybe some braided.steel tubes for the front brake?
Not sure how possible it might be in the US, but I wonder, when you next do a sport touring bike review, if you can get your hands on a Triumph Trophy 900/1200.
As an owner of a 1994 Trophy 900 that I use for touring but also as a daily rider, I absolutely love it.
I can’t really fault the bike at all, then again I’m a little biased, so I’d love to know your thoughts on one if ever possible.
I love the lukewarm review on this bike lol😂
I think you should ride/review their 500c baby diavel
Awh poor Spite… doesn’t “have much between his knees” don’t worry buddy, me neither
Hard to truly tell from a video with a microphone, but that is probably one of the best sounding Vert Twins. Sounds very smooth and doesnt have the usual monotone engine note. I havent been able to find any spec on crankshaft style or degrees of seperation of each piston.
@@slow_bike_show sounds like a good all a"round" design.
360 degree crank.
Waiting for the Benelli 302, hopefully soon!
what camera are you using? i love the cinematic view
They keep talking about price but it's literally the same for 2022 as the CB500x and there are a bunch of used/NOS Hondas out there for less. On cycletrader the Benellis are $6700-7200. New CB500f is $6700 and the X is $7200 same as MSPR for Benelli "Trail"
About as Italian as a chicken chow mein. It is just styled as a scrambler.
Pretty much what Aetheeulf said. They're known as a chinese scooter dealer. Nor sure about the ship to Italy part.
@@aethelwulfwarlord1475 imagine having Italians check quality. Yikes 😅
@@aethelwulfwarlord1475 You forgot the bit about 'Designed and engineered in Italy, by Italians'. Triumph design and engineer in Britain, then build them in Thailand. Does that make Triumph a Thai brand?
@@DennisEldrup lol
@@dannythinko that Triumph plant is famous for having amazing quality. You really only proved that you know nothing about different brands QC. Triumph is definitely in the highest tier when it comes to quality.
The word of the day is...... "Fine"
2:31 what u know about "Pre Rolls" Spite? 🤣😇 hashtag 420 much? Lmao
Call it what you want to call it...that's a freaking street bike.
@@pleasedontwatchthese9593 why?
Test the 800 trail. They corrected several stuff. And the LCD front lights. They suck in the 500.
Top notch review 😉👍
It's a 360 degree crank. The onroad version is better than the trail version on road.
Nice job 👍. I'm checking one out on Saturday. Is there anything else you can recommend I ask the dealer before I test ride it? And what's your height and weight? 🙏 Thanks.
I really like mine. 2 things id like to change though. Firstly, I keep hitting the horn when indicating. And secondly...its great having mph and kmh...but Id like mph and celsius at the same time to be an option...I have to keep switching.
Headlight was my biggest gripe. Man that thing is/was weak. Changed it out and a world of difference.
are you in US? where do you buy one?
@@Icanreadgood1 Yep, U and S of the A... I just ordered a generic 7in light off Amazon, I think it was a Sunpie and used a CB500 trim ring and retainer that I powder coated black to match the bucket. Drilled three holes and stuck it in there and wired it up... Not a whole lot to it. But WOW what a difference.
Benelli 500cc motor is a 360 degree crank
He said he doesn't have anything between his knees...damn now i just feel bad for him.
But he also said he doesn’t need much between his knees so it balances out?
@@TheMattvf16 Yeah true, but what about aesthetics...he is so big in stature. It's all a joke anyway. cheers
So many "That's what she said" moments 😂
Good vid. Question, why are you trying to use a 'trail' bike to perform as a 'scrambler'? One is capable on easy trails and the other is a full off road beast. In this vid the trail bike performed quiet well, considering the design of it.
For $2,000 less and 120 lbs lighter, you can get the Husqvarna Svartpilen 401. It looks somewhat similar (retro Scrambler style) and has almost identical power numbers. The Husqvarna also has better brakes. I really don't see a reason to get this motorcycle over the Svartpilen 401.
Idk why but here the Husqvarna has same price about 6 and a half thousand euros not al all one third cheaper .
Great review. Did you bend the shifter 😎?
Perfectly fine for a first or second bike
9:13 i am pretty sure it's a 360° crank
nah modern twins that don't use odd cycles (ktm's 80smth, yamaha's 270 or ducati 90) use 180. 360 twins are a thing of old days as they vibrate an awful lot and have a super non smooth power delivery. It's basically two pistons working at the same time so like a thumper.
@@leoglasmeyer2853 nope, you're wrong, it's a 360 crank, got a trk in my garage, it was one of the things that attracted me with this engine, it's not the same as everyone (did you say try hard ? ^^)
360° crank same as my benelli 302R
@@leoglasmeyer2853 it's a 360 crank. It's very evident from the even firing sound.
Yup 360 crank. Smooth even firing. As for vibration, IIRC, this engine has a balance shaft. So when i rode one, i didn't notice anything out of the ordinary, vibration wise.
More Benelli content pls
Can anyone tell me what they're like for parts and service in Australia . I'd like to get one but worry about maintenance cost and availability, whereas with a Honda, I know they're everywhere .
With scrambling going into dirt or rocks. It's mostly about tires.
In your opinion, do you think that the non trail version is good for daily commute? Thank you.
Front brake feel would have to be in my top 5 things on a motorcycle. Nothing worse than the feeling you get when you don't have much confidence in the front end especially under braking and especially when you are a beginner rider.
After the pads bed in fully the brake feel is considerably better. Took about 2000 miles, but the brakes have great feel now. Power also increased noticeably around the 3000 mile mark.
can u test the voge 500 ac/acx its similar but in my opinion better than the leoncino
This bike is listed at $200 more than the cb500f and $700 more than and interceptor on cycle trader in Austin. Maybe I’m just looking the wrong places but this doesn’t seem like a good deal.
Try the Leoncino 800 Trail. The better Option 🙂
Why did you have to bend the foot gear shifter? You gently laid it down on soft ground. Was it easy to bend?
ya no thanks on the whole needing to front brake into every turn deal. that's a bug not a feature
Oh no, not using a brake...
Riding any on/off road bike you have to do that… it’s part of having a bike with longer suspension travel
@@sleeper.simulant7327 I drive a 2020 tiger 1200 (off-road biased) and I don't have to do that - active suspension
@@scottstewart5784 a Triumph Tiger is quite a few classes above a 500cc Benelli that costs half the price lol. Most inexpensive on/off road bikes will require some braking to help sort the front end put when cornering hard I think is a better way to put it. A Tiger, or even an Africa Twin, won’t require that, but those are both much better equipped and sorted from the factory.
@@sleeper.simulant7327 True, but you said "any" adv will require braking. We agree, and you're right, it's an entry level 500 cc "scrambler" and I can't expect great road handling from it. So I won't buy it, but in a different life/economics situation, I might have to deal with that.
Dam you have some good roads there.
Steel braided line and some good Galfer pads should do the trick.
It comes stock with steel braided brake lines. Once the pads bed in the feel is pretty good, but it takes 2000 miles or so.
I need to see an adventure 390 review
Put real DOT knobbies on it. I ride DR650s through sandy, muddy, rooty, rutty singletrack. They're similar in weight and power to a Leoncino Trail 500.
Isn’t the Dr 650 like 50 lbs lighter? Plus much more ground clearance and suspension travel. Putting knobby tires on a street bike doesn’t make it a dual sport
@@stevenr3729 A DR650 is about 367lb curb. With skid, 5gal tank, tailrack, and real handguards, mine were around 400lb until I started trimming them down. The Leoncino 500 Trail isn't much more than 400lb curb, and weight can easily be peeled off it with a tail tidy, Li battery, and Ti muffler. The Trail also has over 5" of travel, while many street bikes have only around 3".
The DR650 is a dualsport. The Trail is a scrambler. A scrambler is a streetbike that has provisions for off-pavement travel. A dualsport is really kind of a non-race dirtbike with provisions for on-pavement travel.
@@RKmndo Yes I understand the difference between both. Which is my point. Your comment implied that the only difference between the two bikes' off-roading ability is a set of tires.
Little lion time!
see if you can get your hands on a CF moto 650MT please i'd love to see that review.
Hey! When are you guys gonna review the Norden 901?
You guys should review the CF Moto CL-X 700 heritage
Any vibrations? My Benelli TRK500 vibrates as hell, esp on 6000rpm
Benelli? Did they sell bikes thru Sears or Montgomery Ward catalog in the 60's
there is rebound adjustment on the shock.
I want one for my first bike, but I'm going to go for a used bike for my first summer/autumn. What SIMILAR bike could I get at a decent price that's good for beginners?
Check Husqvarna Svartpilen 401. Its at the same price, good beginner street-scrambler with decent gear quaility.
A mini desert sled would be the icon
Most enduros or sleds will not work with Spite's or my weight from the start....I've seen noodles half my weight just plough around on them and when I sit on it it just bottoms out....
They put exhaust tubes where a skid plate should be... If not for that, I might be interested.
Skid plate is available and it protects the exhaust. Exhaust is at the same depth as the oil pan, so the skid plate covers both.
@@ChopperCharles thanks for the heads up. Unfortunately It's huge, I guess because there's no frame to mount it to down there so it has to wrap around half the bike before there's any good mount points. It just doesn't seem like a good design. So I guess I'm still not interested.
That is no the trail hahahaha
In Euro4 compilant version there was ABS switch (I have it on my 2019 version). From what I have heard the connector is still under the tank and it is possible to order the ABS switch, connect it and mount it on the steering bar ;)
If it’s not so bad as you say then why only 7 out of 10 on the road ?
Spite did u saw beneli trk 502x, the adventure one and coast like 6k euro..u might come when u see it 😀
Is the size of the leochino better for a shorter rider or can a tall rider feel quite comfortable
This trail version is 7cm higher than the base one so I’d get the trail
I think you bruised your kidneys.
Sell one ?
What I am waiting for is a review on the new MT10SP and the Ducati street fighter v2. Those are on my next bike list after the 21 street triple rs is sold at rhe end of summer
man spite is too big for this bike 🤣
please review the CFMOTO CLX 700, chinese bikes are getting better.
"pokey" means slow guys.
More then enough power for the roads. You don’t need 100 hp, 50 is more then enough to get this bike north of 100 mph.
@@sleeper.simulant7327 Not my point. Spite and Yammie regularly say "pokey" to describe a motorcycle having plenty of power, when it actually means the exact opposite.
Sounds like a 360-degree crank
Please compare this to the Honda CB500F or CB500X, they’re basically the same on paper!
They hate ALL the over priced, heavy, under powered Honda 500 platforms…
@@danieldoyle253 but a Chinese knockoff is the greatest 500 ever apparently 🤓
@@arnosoudyn4899 The entire review they said it was mediocre. They have both stated they don’t really like any of the few options in the 500cc class. Where at any point did you hear “great”? 👨🦯
@@danieldoyle253 you’re right, I’m being dramatic, I’m just a cb500 fanboy and I really really want my favourite bikes to get some screen time
@@arnosoudyn4899 I totally understand that! I bought my Husqvarna Svartpilen after a lot of help from Yammie’s “God Tier” recommendation’s haha. Hondas are great bikes, but I do get their qualms about power and weight of that particular segment.
Did spite just bent the gear lever? xD
Is there have slipper clutch?
…… it is not great. it’s totally fine. 😝
Now you got to try the TRK 502X
where can you buy one of these in new england?
could you do a review of the benelli tnt 600i please
Right? I’m convinced only 5 people have one in the states lol
@@koreyromanchuk663 yeah they are pretty rare, my brother just bought one here in australia and Im pretty sure he has the only one in NSW. It goes pretty good for a restricted 4 cylinder engine. Just would like to get some more personal views of the bike.
@@optimalrider22 I just got one myself, it’s a 2017 though. But it’s my first bike and I’m loving it so far. I may have to make some videos on it since there really isn’t anythjng
@@optimalrider22 I can say that the tachometer is sensitive to moisture. Stopped working after the first time I washed it, and has condensation building up in the tach window
@@koreyromanchuk663 that would be awesome
For the price, why not the Ducati Scrambler?
I just bought the base version, wish me luck
Good luck, I hope it's faultlessly reliable for you and a fantastic steed to ride...😁👍
@@Twilight-cl3zc it has been so far!!
I'd like to see the benelli tnt600i
Very strange high revs street riding, only at second and third gear... It's got 6 gears!
chinelly
Just like Volvo and Harley D...
make a review for MT 03 2022
360 degree crank
Y u didn't try above 80 to 120
Why do you only use half the gearbox riding on the road? Sorry but it drives me mad to watch this, My mind screams change up! CHANGE UP!!. As for using front brake going into a bend? I assume you don’t ride on wet roads very often?
Benelli go vroooom