The VERY Messed Up Origins of Hades | Disney Explained - Jon Solo
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- So... the God of Death mayyy not have been as evil as we thought.. ಠ_ಠ
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What do you think of Hades' origin story? Does it change the way you see his character in the movie? Are there any other versions you know of that I didn't mention? Let me know in the comments! And don't forget to LIKE and SUBSCRIBE to keep this content train chuggin' down the track! 🚂
Please make a messed up origin of swan lake, the nutcracker, the goose girl, the twelve dancing princesses, or the wild swans.
he was a chill guy at least in the percy jackson films. could you please compare the gods portrayls in hercules to their portrayls in the percy jackson films
I am a Big fan of your work Jon, and I'm glad you took on the Origins of Hades. I have multiple books (Including but not limited to) books of Greek mythology, so I know of Hades and his Wife. Thank you again for uploading a video on this.
By the way Hermes is pronounced (Her-meez) I just wanted to let you know that.
Do you plan on doing other mythologies like Norse, Gaelic, and Egyptian mythology?
You're awesome Jon Solo, keep up the good work. 😉
can you do more stories of hades like the story about hades and the musician who came for his wife
@@persephonethebookdragon9520 same im a huge geek when it comes to mythology mainly the ones covered by rick riodan
Hades could have had a better reputation if he took public relations classes on skillshare.
😂
😂🤣
GUCCI GANG
gaming_with moonlight no......
Lmao wait a minute
Zeus to Hades: You can have Persephone but be low-key about it.
Hades: Bursts through the ground and drags Persephone down into the underworld.
Zeus: my profile pic
Praise E Your profile face is a perfect image of Zeus’s reaction.
@@anaisrandom so true
Lol
Okay but it probably was tho🤣
He was extra and i love it
Fun fact: Cerberus loosely translates to spotted. Which means Hades, the God of The Dead, basically names his giant three headed hell hound Spot.
ALMOST as good as Fluffy
@Shantel Lo In what way? I'd rather have a beer with Hagrid, for example.
Hades was the God of the Underworld. Meaning the entire underworld was his domain, including the dead.
Awwww that's super cute
elfology ALMOST as good as Foofy
Hades is not bad. Proof: He politely asked Zeus if he could marry his daughter, unlike others who would just kidnap her and trade her freedom or something.
But he didn't ask her if she wanted to be married to him so 🤐
@@manvithas6814 Back in the day, that wasn't necessary so... >_>
@@taliyahfranklin949 Hera were Zeus sister and wife. That's more disturbing.
manvitha S in some versions of the myth she just walked on down to the underworld, and just didn’t want to leave.
Also he named his 3-headed dog of terror Spots. It’s adorable
*_The moment when you realized that Hades is the most relatable character ever since you grew up to become like him._*
You want to murder people
@Aspiring Marauder Nah! You grew up to be like him the way you grew up to be Squidward. Like all of us.
you married your niece?
Well I'm a correctional officer so I kind of see your point.
@Aspiring Marauder what marrying your sister is better
Hades was probably the most sane of all the Greek gods.
That and hestia,demeter and persephone the rest were all really jerk like
And the most loyal, compared to his brothers. Although he HAS had one affair with a nymph named Minthe.
@@nevaria3230 he didnt do that with the nymph he refused then persephone found out and turned the nymph into a plant
Affan Sami a garden mint to be exact 😂😂
Didnt he kidnap someone and sent them into the underworld so they get married to him?
Hades is like the cool bigger brother that everyone’s intimidated by but is actually very relaxed when you actually get to know him
Yeah, except he kidnapped his wife??? None of the gods of Olympus are good, Hades is no exception.
@@SierNotsruht true but then again if you look at the other Gods deeds he’s a saint compared to them
Until he clocks in to work. Tens of billions of souls; ALL will be accounted for and NONE will escape.
random person: *BANGS HANDS DOWN TO THE GROUND* aRe YoU lIsTeNinG????? hUH?! aRE yOu???!!
hades: bruh, wtf.
I would like but your comment has 42 likes and I don't want to ruin my favorite number.
this was six months ago why tf didnt i see the comments
Some of us are trying to sleep!
Underrated comment
The Greek version of ding dong dash, they even left a dead black sheep at his doorstep...
In many versions, Persephone willingly eats the pomegranate after falling in love with hades.
Go crazy go stupid yeah I prefer those versions
I mean he is better than zeus
They actually have the most stable and functional relationship
in even earlier versions, persephone saw how distraught and confused the dead were and went to the underworld, to the dismay of her mother, to welcome the dead to the afterlife. she agreed with her mother that she would only stay half of the year. there was no mention of hades.
Her name actually means "Bringer of Death"
Hera: This baby ugly YEET
*yeets Hephaestus off of Mt. Olympus*
Zeus: Where’s the smithing god?
Hera: wouldn’t you like to know weather boy
Lmao
He comes back as chair person
Hephyeetus
@@maxlee8154 heh good one
t-this comment is so underrated I can't-
Child me: woaaahhh Zeus is so cool
Me now: i like Hades more now
If you know anything about Zeus, you know he's not a good role model XD
Same
"The Rape of Persephone" Would actually Translate to "The Theft of Persephone" in today's modern language.
Yep. The meaning of rape back then was abduction of women. But ofc, we all know that meaning is aging like milk.
What do you think happens when someone is forced into marriage? Especially back then
Also “they raped me” said in the marketplace was common to mean the jipped me.
Sylvana Andersson crazy how words change with time I always find it hard to believe that gay used to mean happy just a few decades ago
Only recently did I develop interest in Greek Mythology, I initially came across it as "The Taking of Persephone", but your comment added more light
It’s funny, Hades is pretty much the only Greek main god who wasn’t a jackass at some time, but he also makes for such an entertaining villain that I can’t say I mind the alternative portrayal.
hades/hestia 2020 XD
In regards to Persephone, I think he was a bit of a jackass.
@arnold jayeola Still kidnapped her. Just because she developed Stockholm syndrome after the fact doesn't negate that he took her against her will.
EmblemBlade9 ahlie
Poseidon is a rapist and Zeus has trouble keeping his dick in his pants. In contrast to his brothers, he's not a jackass. I love Hades.
Kronos after eating the rock: Man, that was a good baby a, little crunchy, though
naaah bro mother "oh dear maybe it would have griwn to be thick headed?
Which explains the birth of an entire genre of music!
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he was like "a little crunchier than usual"
"...Needs some salt."
Nelly 😂😂 imagine being the chief and hearing that or just in a restaurant, “That was a good baby, little crunchy though” in like in Red Robin 😂😂😂
I actually think Hades is one of the best Greek gods. He didn’t really go and trick anybody (except for the two men who tried to come down and take his wife as their own - can’t remember their names), he took care of the souls, his dog Cerberus literally translates as one with spot or spot (lol) and he was faithful to his wife.
- he may have kidnapped her but that can be debated. 😬
Demeter was such a helicopter mom, it totally was her fault Hades had to resort to kidnapping. 😂
SkyBlue the whole spot thing was disproven, as sad as that is to everyone. It does not translate to spot :/
Source: Pinned comment of this youtubers video on the three headed dog. Where he also has a linked source.
Yeah I hate Demeter lol she just couldn’t accept her precious flower with anyone but herself. If she just let her daught have more freedom Hades wouldn’t have resorted to kidnapping but then she may have just straight up rejected her cus her time down there with him made her have to spend time with him so she got to know him and see he was really very nice and caring and actually ended up in love with him 🥰
He was pretty faithful except for minth (I think that's how you say it) and was like a conubine (I can't spell) and Persephone was okay with it till minth started to talk about how she was soooo much better than Persephone and because greek god where Giants and minth was tiny Persephone stomped now her until she became mint
@@randomcrab4394 Greek god wasn't really a giant tho, they're shape-shifter they could change their appearances
Almost everyone: Hades is evil
Zeus: *Stuff's one of his sons in his thigh* (Dionyosus)
Fuck u i nearly choked myself
LMAO but that was because Hera constantly tried to make sure he didn't develop in his mothers womb so Zeus sewed Dionysus to his thigh so he could develop which is so sad bahsjsjs
Hera: tries to get every women associated with Zeus killed, punished, or raped
You could have mentioned something where he wasn't thinking about the other person, like 50 billion times he r$ped someone
Woah
Hades isn't the God of death, he just does the paperwork.
**Points to Thanatos**
See, he's the God of death
DespacitoGamer420 F I N A L L Y
Am I the only one who realized that Thanatos sounds similar to *Thanos*
@@solarflare7 that was intentional
THANK YOU.
its a lower case g
My mom accidentally named me Hades lmao.. written differently but pronounced exactly the same. I definitely have fun introducing myself to new people lmaoo 🤣
that's awesome 😂😂😂
lol how do people react? And they must react seeing as its so fun to introduce yourself.
That would be so fun!
Heidys Val nice! Love it when parents give unique names
OHEMMGEEE!!! 🤣🤣🤣 LOVE IT!!! ❣️❣️❣️
Persephone: so nice to pick some flowers for a change.
Hades: Hello there!
And Uhmm I yoink her hehe
General persephone!!!
I just wanted to add this. In some stories, there was a demon type creature that saw that Hades was distraught by having to give Persephone up so he tricked her into eating 6 pomegranate seeds. Once Hades sent her on her way, Cerberus refused to let her go. He was angry towards the dog until the demon type came and said, "You have eaten of our fruit, you may never leave now, and my master shall no longer feel as though his heart is being torn asunder." Hades was furious with the demon and cursed him to be a snake. He then got into his chariot, and helped her out, taking serious damage from the dog and guards stationed to keep everyone in. He gave her back to Demeter but Zeus said that since she had eaten the fruit, she would have to return to stay within the rules of the law. One month for every seed she ate. I just wanted to add that. I found it so fascinating how much he loved her and was willing to give her up just because he hated seeing how sad she was.
Disney's Hercules has a lot in common with DragonBall
I actually really like hades he’s probably my favorite Greek God and I find it interesting how it is said one of his greatest weaknesses is his love for Persephone
I don't know, maybe it is a translation thing, but in the greek mythology translated in latvian it says she ate three of the pomergranate seeds and it was Hades himself who gave it to her. When she arrives, everything starts to bloom and flourish, because Demeter is so happy to see her, then in summer they live their happy lives together, but, as the end of their time together drows near, Demeter starts to feel sad again, thus autumn comes. and in the end, when Persephone must return to the underworld, the mother grieves her all those three months, thus winter...
Never heard that before.
He had no choice-and he DID kidnap her in the first place
No body talks about Zeus raping women for no reason, posiedon killing for fun, and how Herecules murdered his two children, given birth to by Megara.
Hades is the true hero of Greek Mythology
hades/hestia 2020 XD
iamRageTheWolf Hestia, the virgin goddess was Hades' sister.
@@nytesla_punk3327 yes it was a political joke and familial relations never mattered to the greek gods
iamRageTheWolf thanks :) Makes you wonder if she really was a virgin...
@@nytesla_punk3327 ooooh myyyy
In some versions of the myth, Hades didn’t force Persephone to eat the pomegranate but would offer the food of the underworld as he wanted her to feel welcome and nourished in her new home(whether knowingly or unknowingly about the underworld food rule also depended on the version because I’ve read both), other versions say Persephone had given in and gorged on the fruit after she couldn’t hold back from not eating anything anymore, and others even said Hades offered the fruit as a parting gift before Hermès took her back to her mother and she ate on the way there. Either way, the number of seeds would range from 3-6 usually(I tend to go with 6) as she’d spend two seasons with her mother and the remaining two with him. With the story of Hades and Persephone, even the chemistry ranged from unrequited/one sided love and anger and hatred from the young goddess to eventual acceptance to mutual/complete love. Regardless, Hades did love her and treated her like an absolute queen and treasure, showering in jewels, affection, and even creating the garden when he saw how unhappy she was(even though he was all “hey all that I can really grow here are asphodels and these pomegranate trees but I know you want the sun and something reminiscent of home so here you go”)- point is I was very happy that you covered this and I hope you get to talk about some of the other major gods and figures in Greek mythology; maybe you can go further into detail with Zeus or Hera one day who knows! Awesome video!
Also hades was the completely loyal to her unlike some OTHER god we know
If I remembered correctly, Hades did cheat once with a nymph named minthe and that nymph was turned into a mint plant by persephone...
Aubrey Briones actually Minthe met Hades while he was still a bachelor, well before he ever met Persephone. She got turned into a plant by Persephone because she came back after Hades had been happily married to Persephone for years. Also, it was not explicitely stated that Hades did cheat, just that Minthe offered.
@@judymcclenny9549 I see, thanks for the correction
adding to yours depends on the story if she wandered to the underworld on her own. but Yes he did love and care for his queen. a queen who loved both rolls she had to play. and if i recall she would help people be at ease as they died
Hades is misunderstood. That is all. I think Zeus and the others are far worse villains
I feel like Dionysus and Hermes aren’t all that bad of gods Dionysius drinks all the abuse of Hera for being a illegitimate child of Zeus and I’m pretty sure being the messenger of the gods puts a lot of stress on Hermes
hestia: why does no one ever notice me?
demeter: because you do jack shit sis
Zeus raped like 50 different mortal women and constantly cheated on Hera. And Poseidon was very cruel to those who wronged him.
@@cooki3th1ef Poseidon also raped and essentially ruined Medusa's life too on top of that. Compared to these gods, Hades is a great guy
I TOTALLY agree with u
The blue Hades looks like Ryuk from Death Note
Yeah but I believe hades is really a handsome god
Why is that so true-
Da shinigami is reeeaaal
samee
Pomegranates . . . Apples . . . Same thing
Hades is often over vilified, due to people's fear of death.
That's a jenius observation
@@hinatabestgirl5882 genius sorry for the correction
@@gtnajee6601 😂sry English is my 2nd language I get really confused between g and j
@@hinatabestgirl5882 It's all good, Good on you for learning another language
I think a lot of it is also Christianity and other religions like that being super popular,, instead of the underworld it's like "hell" so people see him as Satan and not who he actually is
Hades is my favorite! Precious antisocial guy who likes rocks and takes care of dead people. He was also called merciful for making a place for dead people.
Also, Hades is good to Persephone and is one of the only God's who's actually loyal to his wife. I like to imagine Persephone was in on getting kidnapped/escaping an over protective mother. It makes sense wither way
Anne Compton
There's a webtoon called lore Olympus that talks about Persephone and Hades story in a more modern way. And it's kind of similar to your theory (?) you can check it out uwu
Not unless you consider the Percy Jackson series, where he had an affair with a woman and this led to his son and daughter Bianca and Nico De Angelo being born.
@@christianjohnson5379 I'm pretty sure the author just put that in for his story
@@christianjohnson5379 That stuff is fiction, not part of the ancient myths, so it doesn't count.
Mythology is usually messed up, and Hades was still nicer there than in a kid's animated movie.
In the versions I read, Hades was the first born fo Rhea and Kronos, so he spent the longest time in his father’s stomach. When they were released he couldn’t stand the sunlight and freely choose the underworld as his realm. The brother that really didn’t like Zeus an even tried to overthrow him was Poseidon.
I personally believe that even though Persephone was kidnapped, she actually did fall in love and ate the pomegranate willingly.
I think there was a version we're she wilingly goes and eats the seeds to stay with him
Sounds like that Adam and Eve story🤔😏
Me too
@@aurorabaphomet7036 but this is a evil myth tho
@@aurorabaphomet7036 also we don't talk about that
Cerberus = Hades' dog
Hades = Pluto
Pluto = Goofy's dog
Goofy = dog
dog = god spelled backwards
Conclusion: Goofy is the true god of the underworld.
Goofy is actually a cow
Pluto is Mickey’s dog tho
Kira Kiwi
Goddammit
Mind. Blown.
@@kirakiwi5457 Awww mind unblown
Hades said it himself... he’s not the god of death, that’s his daughter. Hates is the god of souls.
Wait he has a daughter?
@@bawithang7813 Macaria I think
Technically his daughter Makaria is the goddess of blessed death, Thanatos is the god of death who's is also meant to be Makaria's lover, but this differs between myths.
@@lucy-qs8rt is there a difrence between blessed and regular?
hades doesnt come after you when you at door of death, Thanatos comes, Hades keeps you safe and warm in the underworld :d
Fun fact! Cerberus comes from the Greek word for "spotted". Ergo, Hades the stern and intimidating God of the underworld basically named his damn dog Spot.
'Nother fun fact: pomegranates were sacred to Aphrodite, and it was tradition that they be exchanged during weddings. So, just personally, it seems unlikely to me that Persephone didn't know exactly what it meant to eat the seed(s).
"Look honey, I'm getting reeaaal tired of you eating the kids ok!?"
Jessica Davis lol
Honey I ate the Kids
My husband to freak the kids out every time I get pregnant:"tell mommy to stop eating my babies!" 😂
@@lamammina2023 I used to work at a nursery, and once a little cute 3yo boy asked my colleague "how the baby got inside her belly" and I quickly answered that she ate it coz she was too hungry... the child was ready to cry...lol so I had to explain that I was only joking.
@@soursugarrr 😂😂😂😂
The funny thing is that Zeus is far more evil then him 🤦♂️🤣
Pretty much most of the Greek gods are jerks Zeus pretty much rapes anything that has a pulse
@@crawlingboy yep he loves lust
I'm loving' it XD
Well, they're all just morally gray, just Zeus is more of a borderline abusive king, Hades is more of a withdrawn rich guy that helps people when the occasion arises.
I know right!!!!!!
"And that's Hades, the god of death."
Thanatos: Am I a joke to you?
Is Hades the boss of Thanatos? Thanatos sounds like a SIMP 616 Titan. While a 5th Dimensional IMP Doucette was a FREAKIN CIRCLE! ⭕
People always confuse the god of death with the god of the dead
Hades was a good guy just lonely well I believe he was lonely cause he often tricked living people who came to the underworld but his deals were fair but they always ended up staying in the Underworld. I mean I’d be lonely to if I just hung out with dead people
I'd be insane, alots of crazy ppl that deserve to die........Die, your with all the people the world wanted to get rid of, think about it
Exactly! I’m the Disney movie I think that is one reason why he is evil was he was so lonely that and with Zeus literally having forced the worst job upon him with no saying. Living in a place like that where literally no one but souls of the dead go? No other gods would ever come down there for a visit or anything. That would be so lonesome and sad. He needed a queen to rule with because ruling by yourself just isn’t any fun it’s just sad and lonesome to sit there knowing you have no one to share anything with. And he even treats the women he loves like a equal to him not just as some assistant and he was very happy with her and never cheated on her! Sometimes people may seem scary and dangerous but it’s because deep inside they hurt because they have no one. Nobody to love or hang out with or share anything with. And in the Disney film Persephone wasn’t a part of it so no wonder he went insane and wanted what his brother had. Hades is my favorite Greek god 😇
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"BECAUSE SHE IS A STRONG INDEPENDENT WOMAN"
LOL
EHO DONT NEED NO MAN *snaps fingers in Z formation*
who*
Love that
I laughed at that too. Knew I could not possibly be the only one. lmaoo
Tasherra Hogan 11 likes more on your comment and mabye Hades would knowdes you
One main thing I want to point out. Hades never wanted Asclepios to be killed, that was mainly Zeus. Hades just wanted Asclepios to stop bringing people back to life, he didn't care how, but it was Zeus who interpreted that as "Hit the dude with lightning". Just thought I'd clarify. I love your videos.
'Cause you know. If Zeus can't lay it, he slay it.
Zack Geldhof that is the best fucking thing I have EVER read
@@zackgeldhof1206 "Perfection."
Hey thanks for the clarification! I'll def remember that for the future when I start covering the stories of other gods :)
@@austinkersey2445 haha! You're welcome! XD
Hades: "A little dark a little gloomy and oh yeah FULL OF DEAD PEOPLE!"
me dead chilling in his throne: *does slight wave* sup
The funny thing is, Hades wasn't the punisher everyone thinks of him as, it was Zeus and Persephone who mostly did the punishing.
I heard a version of the myth that says that Hades was supposed to be the ruler of the gods because he was the firstborn son making it his birthright but Zeus wanted that role so he tricked him into drawing straws and rigged the game in his favor.
I heard that Zeus was the first born and Hades was the last born. I also heard that Zeus cut through his father's stomach to release himself and his siblings, becoming the King of Gods and marrying Hera.
Welcome to Greek mythology
@@skullsandlotuses actually hades is the firstborn son, he just got eaten by his father. and zeus is the only one that didnt get eaten by kronos
@@daesung884 Ohhhhhhh
@@skullsandlotuses I heard that story too
Poor Hades
sometimes Hades is said to have offered Persephone the pomegranate with full knowledge from both parties about the underworld food thing, but Persephone actually liked Hades so ate some of it. Though sometimes it's stated Persephone ate half of the pomegranate due to figuring out that it was underworld food, idk, it's not always Hades being slimy basically (he also proved to be the most faithful of the gods to his wife)
Yeah, I tend to think she chose to stay with Hades. I mean her mom's overprotective and she probably wanted a life of her own. Being queen of the Underworld and living her own life would have probably been preferable to picking flowers year-round.
I learned that Persephone willingly ate 6 pomegranate seeds and thus stays with Hades for 6 months and the rest of the year with Demeter
I love think a Greek Screaming ," oi HADES" and slapping the ground
Jon: "Persephone will live on earth for two thirds a year and when she leaves winter comes"
Filipinos: *"She is with us always!"*
lol the filipino seasons xD Only Rainy and Sunny here!!!!!
Baliw-
well we do live in a tropical region so we don't have snow so the closet thing to that is rain because it cold
Me: Hades is a messed up person.
Jon: The VERY messed up origins or Hades
Me:....Oh sheet, I"m ready boi
Were you disappointed?
@@judymcclenny9549 Not in the slightest
so glad :) thanks for watching!
In some versions Persephone and Hades really loved each other. Plus I think that version fits more with how Hades was really said to be like, he was a nice enough guy, I don’t think he’d really do that to someone he loved/married.
Cinder Fox in the original myth she went to the underworld willingly and wanted to marry him, his myths always get really twisted.
Pip thought so, thanks for clarifying!
@@cinderfox5217 while that is a nice thought. There is no right or wrong version and each one is actually just as valid as the other. Heck there could be one single version that hades was terrible and it would be just as right as the other.
karen allen I think you’re misunderstanding what I meant! I just mean that those are the versions that I personally prefer!
@@cinderfox5217 I was referring to when you said "what hades was really like" but it doesn't matter.
“They would bang their hands on the ground to make sure he was paying attention” smh
I love Hades because of the Webtoon called "Lore Olympus"
Exo Aelin me too
Who didn't
Of all the gods n goddesses....hades was probably the nicest, with exception to hestia....for not messing up with mortals.
Agreed. He was pretty much just, "Don't touch my wife, don't touch my doggo, and don't fuck around inside my house and try to take shit without asking. Have a most pleasant day."
Eleeth Tahgra you get me Hades isn’t a bad guy he just rules the underworld
@@kingscorner2047 mhmmm I like apples
@@gtnajee6601 Cool
“Whom he somehow remained on speaking terms with” im laughing so hard
“Those nice juicy souls”
-Jon Solo 2019
Got me
As a practicioner. I worked with Hades. He's honestly strict but he's sweet and fair. Probably the only same one out of all the dieties
Fun fact: Cerberus means spotted. That right, Hades named his dog Spot.
Also in some myth Zeus just said kidnap Persephone. (Put another mark on Zeus is the worse god ever.)
Zeus is reckless, abusive, a hardcore rapist(even raped ares), vengeful, etc
Hes only king of the gods because he saved them and is the mist powerful
Depending on the myth Persephone actually willing went to the Underworld
It was my understanding that the underworld was called Hades, as you said, but it was split into Tartarus (where evil souls go AKA Hell) and the Elysian Fields (where good souls go AKA Heaven). A good representation of this is shown in the TV shows Hercules and Xena.
I LOVE his little rant and attack on pronouncing the names. He truly has a point. In the end, it's a myth and story. you can pronounce anything anyway you want. He deserved that moment
Hades backstory was actually pretty cool and it’s amazing how his life isn’t so different from ours
In what regard do u mean tho?
Your siblings were eaten?
@@crimsonilla6550 exactly what I was thinking
@@crimsonilla6550
Yours weren't?
Puppet Player No,they actually ate my dad before he ate them
In some versions of the myth, Hades doesn’t force Persephone to eat the pomegranate. He either tricked or offered it.
Also, a lot of versions have Persephone like being queen.
there is a version where she ate it because she wanted to stay with hades
Another version mention that she likes promegrantes and being hungry, she ate a 1/3 of it. Thus being only 1 third of the year in the Underworld with Hades.
I've heard versions of the myth where she's forced to stay against her will and hates Hades and other versions where she actually falls in love with him and only leaves the underworld because of her mother.
@@patrickkanas3874Originally yes, she was kept there and went on a hunger strike. In ancient times, when you eat in your host's house is when you basically say that you agree on staying. I think that is where the idea came in about the promegrant - being Persephone's favourite fruit - being her downfall.
There's also one where Demeter killed a little boy then the little boy was in Hades garden and the little boy gave the pomegranate to persaphone
There are many versions of the hades and Persephone myth the kidnapping one being the most often told. One version of the myth is that Persephone willingly goes with hades. Another is that after being kidnapped she was impressed by his riches and married him for them. It also wasn’t hades’ idea to kidnap Persephone (although in other versions may be told differently but this is one that I’m talking about). Hades had asked Zeus, his brother and Persephone father, politely and Zeus told him to kidnap him and that he would help lure Persephone to a certain spot where hades would drag her to the underworld. Although Hades was technically Persephone’s uncle keep in mind that a lot of ancient mythology through multiple cultures and even the bible have many themes of incest, murder, violence, and rape. Please note that I am not justifying incest but it also wasn’t just myths and happened a lot in the past. Something else I want to mention is that Persephone isn’t the damsel in distress she was as feared as much as hades especially because she even had the king of the dead at her feet and was both ruthless and kind (also I would definitely be interested if a full story of persephone’s story was explained here)
I love Hades and thought Disney's version was pretty cool. One of my favorite Disney Villains only second to Scar.
When I was younger, I thought that Hades was bad. I then did some research and realize...
Me: Dang... he ain’t that bad. Just misunderstood...
Love your video!
Cerberus appears to deprived from the greek word for "spotted", yep hades named his Dog Spot!
Awwwwww!!!! 🐶
I was gonna say that XD Glad I found this and didn’t repeat you. :p
Apparently it means 'spotted' or 'fluffy' and related to clouds. But now you know how the giant dog in Harry Potter got his name.
*nosebleeds and dies* I wanna see mah babies ;^;
Hades is literally the most relatable villain ever!
I’ve only started watching your videos and may I say that your way of delivering these stories to us is so fun and refreshing. I love that you bring in all the alternative stories and go into detail about the detail. Thank you for all your hard work, please keep it up!
about Cerberus: it’s been a good two years since my mythos classes but if i remember right, it’s something along the lines of he fed a stray dog and the stray dog followed him home..... and then he named the dog spot. no seriously the root words of Cerberus means spotted
Aww the most precious thing in the world! Like that's adorable. Taking in a stray. X3
That is the most adorable thing I have ever heard... *uwus intensifies* Cerberus, mah baby boy I love chu!!! WHY ARE THE PETS OF HELL GODS SO CUTE AND WITTLE BUNS OF CINNAMON ROLLS SMOL BEANS WRAPPED IN A FWUFFY BWANKET *breaths, fangirling extrememly* Ammit and Cerberus must be play bwuddies!! Poochekins and Spwot uwu
Join the Jones’ omg
Hagrid's three headed dog?!
That's not right, Cerberus is the son of the Giant Monster Typhoon and the snake woman Echidna and Hades took him in since he would never let anyone escape.
Remember: Kerburus/Cerberus means "spot" in Latin... So no Hades is the coolest of all the Gods
Or Fluffy
only that its ancient Greek which is not Latin and in modern Greek its used to describe someone oppressive or too strict. I couldn't find an etymology for the ancient meaning , unfortunately.
funny how lore olympus fandom has so much hatred toward disney because "omg! how dare you make our e-boy hades looks bad when he's just a chill dude" who kidnap his wife when that webtoon story is doing the same thing to apollo
get what you mean but apollo was never a chill dude, like alot of the other gods pretty much all his mortal lovers died trying to outrun him
The whole Asspolo thing is ironic I agree
all I know about mythology is Percy Jackson books and those fun fact kahoots in third grade, but dang apollo was pretty cool
There was a book I read in high school that explained how Cerberus began working for Hades. It told a story about how he wanted to save a little girl who was his friend so to allow her out of Hades, he agreed to guard the gates for a thousand years. I really wish that I knew the author's name.
Aww that’s really sweet :D
Living for the sass about how to pronounce the names 😂❤️
I love how they would bang their hands on the ground before making a sacrifice to get his attention. Like “Hello Hades!!!! Are you there?!? We come bearing gifts!!!!!”
“ANSWER THE DOOR YOU SLACKER”
I was going to say I'm not sure how accurate that is since I'm not sure if the Greeks ever believed Hades was underground, but they believed the gods lived on a tangible mountain, so they probably did think Hades was a physical place as well
I read a Webtoon called "Lore Olympus". Having no real background on the mythology, I fell in love with it but after watching you explain Hades and Eros, it's definitely making sense now and I love the Webtoon even more 🥰🥰🥰
although hades wasn’t portrayed according to the mythology, the portrayal in the movie was so good! the sleazy car salesman persona combined with witty humour was such a great choice for hades character. it definitely made the movie one of my top favourites due to his character personality
There are many theories saying Persephone went willingly to Hades
Yeah, what happened depends on the story. I think the original would probably have been the kidnapping version however the Greeks had a tendency to change how stories were told between cities.
Yeah, in earlier versions of the myths Persephone wanted to be with Hades!!!!
She was kidnapped at first but then fell in love and went willingly.
Not really theories but other versions of that tale.
Hades has always been my favorite Greek god. Thank you, Jon.
Your shade throwing skills are sheer perfection! 😂😂😂
‘Because she was a strong independent women’ !😂😍💯
As someone who's read evert single Rick Riordan mythology book ever and has been actually devouring Greek mythology since forever, I actually just came for you to make me laugh. Hades is definitely my favourite Greek god, even above Athena who can be quite rash at times and you definitely didn't disappoint.
Hades was wiser than the wisdom Goddess herself. The only guys Hades screwed over were Theseus and Pirithous, and both of them were assholes and had it coming. Athena, for instance, screwed over Medusa and turned her into a horrible monster just out of jealousy for her beauty
@@tvbnine793 Arachne too, because Arachne was the better weaver or something.
Considering she sprang fully-formed from Zeus' brain or something...
@@minatoaudiph7883 Apparently Arachne boasted she was a better weaver than athena and she got angry and cursed her I believe.
Didn’t Athena screw over Medusa because Poseidon had sex with Medusa in a temple that was devoted to Athena? Still proving Athena was a total bitch, but still😂
@@lauraotten9875@L. The frustrating thing about it is that there are so many versions of the myths so you can't really say whether or not she was involved (also because she didn't exist but whatever) but there definitely was one or more version where she did lol
Hades always got the short end of the stick. I watched the Disney Hercules movie and believing he was evil and basically the Greek equivalent of the Devil, then a few years later in school my teacher read to us from a book on Greek mythology and it absolutely confused me because everything in the book was much more different than what the movie told us
Yeah, that's pretty much EVERYTHING that's been taken from a book and made into a movie 😑
gamer girl there are several books. On Greek & / or Roman Mythology you can find hard-copy booms by Homer, annotated books by various scholars & some theologians & when it comes to Hades specifically there are tons of authors writing stories about him based off of the mythology. Most of yhose are romance novels, though. Still educational.
Yeah, it's a real let-down to find out that *the Muses* weren't gospel singing black women. To be fair, Greeks & Romans were surrounding the Mediteranean, so their muses were likely thought of as colored / tanned / bronzed / olive-complected beautiful women & many of them did sing with gorgeous voices. So, that's close enough, right? Even if they're not singing Gospel style?
😧 I know, it's still a bit of a let-down.
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Lenin would make a much better villain, yet purhaps too dark for Disney nowadays. However, considering disneys most recent works butchering film classics with live action, maybe they would be ip for it. If mot, I'm sure a horror films production company would not only be up to the task, they'd also jump at the opportunity. Or at least someone *should*.
Omg are you telling me Hades got eatin by his father that is messd up yo.
I always said if I was one of the three brothers I would want to be Hades. Zeus is the king and god of the sky but he has to deal with everything and all of the gods as a judge. Poseidon has the sea but he has to deal with all the minor gods like Triton and other sea nymphs. Hades has a hot wife (who he does have to leave for six months out of the year) which would suck but all the gods leave him alone. You have a giant three headed dog as a pet and all of the souls of the dead who could fight for you at will. Your best friend is Chiron who gives you all the riches he collects by ferrying people across the River Styx and if Styx was to ever escape Tartarus she would be loyal to you. You are richer than all the gods anyway. Also, your ruling is final, for all mortals at least. Yeah, I would choose Hades. Can you tell I am a mythological nerd?
Still love Hercules portrayal of Hades, seriously one of the best Disney villains
Am I the only one picturing Rhea cooking some really nice dinner for Kronos only to see him eating the kids and be like. 'Can you like...stop already?!'
Omg! I’ve been wondering everything about hades, but I don’t know anything about him.
Thank you soooooo much for making this video and share with us!!! THANK YOUUUUUU!
"Because that's right, Hades had parents"
8:06
*people knocking to get hades to listen*
Hades-Oh my gods I swear I’m going to kill all of them.
*more knocking*
Hades-I’M LISTENING!
Goes to Zeus: Hades: "Damn it I am FUCKING tired of people knocking"
Zeus: "They are just getting ur attention"
"Both begin arguing"
I want a PG-13 live action Heracles. With more of the original story. Like Hera as the villian.
Ty Fuerth there is one with the rock but I don’t know which year to look up so good luck finding it
Watch lore olumpus on wetoons and you will love it like me
I'm thinking Disney live action remake.
Ty Fuerth and maybe Oh I don’t know Hades gets a girl friend? As a happy ending for himself?
Molly Bennett He’s already married
I'm doing a John Solo Messed Up Origins marathon and just wanna say, ur awesome! I don't have access to mythological books so ur my source for knoweledge about mythology and am so grateful u hv this channel.
Still adore Hades and Lady Persephone~ Nothings changin' that :3
I always feel sorry for the way they portray hades in media
Also there is evidence that Cerberus/kerberos means spotted, so Hades called his three headed hellhound, Spot. C'mon that is too cute!
Did you find that out from Overly Sarcastic Productions?
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I didn't really find Jon super attractive before this video but not gunna lie, watching him clap back over Greek pronunciations got me like 🔥🔥🔥
His UPS reference 😂😂😂 I've seen 3 of your videos & officially subscribed lol 👌🏾
Haded was actually awesome, he was feared because everyone feared death.
He was fair, and he was actually very helpful to demigods.
…I think you mean "HADES was actually awesome, he was HATED because everyone FEARED death," which is an accurate statement. Might want to correct your comment there, friend.
@@Wandergirl108 ducking autocorrect
Yep, sounds like a guy who was just stuck with the completely necessary job that someone needs to do but no one wants to do, and then instead of being upset about it actually tried to do a good job.
But Hades is not death, that's Thanatos (gentle death) and Ker (violent Death). And nobody in ancient greek ´"hated" Hades. They ignored him, because he's an anti-social, burocratic basement tweller.
You forgot to mention: Hades in Xena was pretty much portrayed as his actual mythology self and not evil.
Dancingirl XENA
I've been reading a comic about the Olympians where Hases is pretty much the same as described in this video. A nice guy with a lot of responsibility to put it simply
At least Hades is fair when it comes to making deals with people. That's really cool and I do
respect Hades for keeping his end of the deal, even if he's on the losing side of the deal.
All god of the died are fair
Loved this. Now I'll put Hades into the category of 'misunderstood villans'
The allegory of Persephone and Hades relationship, is the love story between Virgo and Scorpio respectively. Virgo and Scorpio bear an intense relationship dynamic when paired together
I'm a Libra and an online quiz told me I should find a Scorpio.... I hear they're amazing in bed
@@tvbnine793 scorpio will eat a libra alive... incompatible.
@@BlueFace33388 idk I've met chill ass scorpios
@@tvbnine793 One of the most awesome couples that I know is a Libra-Scorpio duo. These two have been together over 20 years and are in love like it was new. I'd totally recommend a Libra/Scorpio hook up! Scorpios are so misunderstood. For some reason I attract them more than most signs, for friendship. Scorpios can be players or monks, and usually once they find their "one" are also super faithful too....usually, everything has exceptions.
Yea I'll keep it in mind. Soo how are Hades and Persephone virgos and scorpios exactly?
another great video!!