but how does it work? is it the hardware or could a high end AC router be firmware upgraded to use AX? how much processing power does iit need? could my RT AC5300 get a AX firmware upgrade some day or will it become obsolete? will the processor be too slow to handle it?
the companies want you to buy a new router as much as possible. sadly giving old routers the new speeds doesn't make sense even if possible businesswise
My internet connection uses an RJ11 feed (ADSL), but I notice the input to the router is RJ45. But I noticed he had 2 different retail boxes on the table. Is one RJ45 & the other an RJ11 input?
Complaints: 1. He said 2.5GHz instead of 2.4GHz. 2. He said that AC ran at 1.1GBps instead of 1.1Gbps. 3. I don't own one yet, nor does my local ISP offer gigabit speeds.
As @justaway said, you do not need to have ISP speeds that matches your router's capabilities, your local network can easily push your hardware to it's limits. I have 4x Google Home Minis, 1 chromecast, at least 2 (occasionally 3) tablets nearly always on in my household primetime, 2 Smart TVs, 2 PCs, 3 laptops, 2 cellphones. I have not yet counted the gaming consoles... With all that hardware taxing my current router: RT-AC68U, my network sometimes struggles to keep up, especially if I am trying to stream a 4k @ 60fps game from my PC to my living room TV, something I can do with barely any noticeable latency if I'm alone in the house. Now, I may be a bigger user than most but we are all heading in the same direction, a router such as the RT-AX88U should make chump change of my current use and then some.
Hmmmm thks for the info. I was considering the ASUS RT-AC88U. ?Could you terse comparison ac, ad, & ax wifi routers and why multiple standard came about or are needed? Thks again
@@JayzBeerz AX's still new and devices that support it almost none existence. OEM just starts implementing it this year. Given the time it'll surely improve as many things in tech.
I bought the Asus RT-AX88U yesterday. And I use Tp-link AX3000 Archer TX300E PCIE adapter in my Dell XPS pc. I connect to 5 Ghz at channel 100 (less congestion) and 160 Mhz. And I have Verizon Gigabit speed 950 MBPS service. But I only get wireless speed of 300 mbps to 400 mbps. I cannot go further up. This is way off as advertised.
That sounds about right for wireless, maybe a little slow. The advertised 6000mbps is all protocols combined, so wireless N+AC+AX. It's bad advertising but every company does this. If your wired speed was that slow I would be concerned, feel free to reply if you have more questions! P.S. I'm guessing you aren't using the new AX standard, there are very few devices that support it right now.
Most high-end consumer routers are going beyond 1 Gbps ethernet and WiFi. Meanwhile world average internet bandwidth is still way below 50 Mbps. So basically we pay for the features we aren't going to use, at least not for another 5 years.
You do use it when communicating between devices in your household. Imagine you want to transfer files from your PC to your NAS (which is connected to your router via ethernet). Now we are limited in ethernet speeds to 1Gbps, as very few routers offer anything faster, but assuming I have a very good network card in my computer, like the PCE-AC88, I'd be able to transfer files to my router at the quoted figure of 1.1Gbps, which would then be able to transfer that to my NAS at 1Gbps. Now 1.1Gbps is a bit of a best case scenario, since the two devices here were right next to each other, but lets assume they are close, that means if I want to watch a movie on my TV... I could transfer it at 125MB/s. Now a 1080p movie encoded in good quality is around 6000kbps, which when you follow the math, you good an average size of a 1080p movie in good quality to be 5GB. This means I could have my movie on my NAS in 40 seconds and ready for viewing on any device. Now there are issues, like 125MB/s being fairly fast, which would be at the limit of modern HDD can do, but getting a good Sata 3 SSD like the 860 Evo would comfortably put you in safe territory with read and write speeds of over 500MB/s. Now this is only one example, currently your smart TV, or smart appliance requires a processor for video playback. Let's say you connect an HDMI cable from your 1080p laptop to TV, because you want to show your monitor on the TV. A 1080p60hz uncompressed signal requires around 3Gbps, which an HDMI cable can carry no problem (HDMI 2.0 can carry 14.4Gbps of data), which means your TV doesn't need to use a processor for anything, it just displays the input received. Versus what you have to do wirelessly now, is attach some kind of processor, like a Google Chromecast, Roku, etc, and your PC essentially points to where on the internet the material can be found, and gets the TV to download it and decompress it (essentially working as it's own computer, but specializing in video playback). As I mentioned, this requires 3Gbps for a 1080p60Hz screen, we're getting very close, with the 2.62Gbps here, and Wigig raises that even more in limited circumstances. We're getting to a point, where instead of having all your smart appliance circuitry on your appliances, have them all on a central computer... On the appliance only have a wifi chip and sensors, and let the central computer handle all computation and send back any display/audio outputs. We could get to a point where we could even remove the CPU's, GPU's, and RAM from our computers, and just have one central computer in the household that has all these components. By sharing them all we could greatly reduce the cost. Simply perform an action with the mouse/keyboard, have this action be sent to the central computer, have it compute the output, and send it back to your computer through a fast wifi card. I mean it's like the same thing as having one rig with really really long cables to your peripherals and your monitor, and putting your computer in another room. But that monitor is connected to 4 different monitors, with each monitor in a separate room, essentially giving you 4 computers for the price of 1, plus some wifi cards (which could be added into the monitors for example).
No 2.5Gb or 5Gb ethernet ports is the reason I'm not upgrading my RT-AC3100 + 2x RT-AC68U mesh system to the new models. Huge failure from Asus in my opinion.
You are putting unnecessary payment on household consumers. your requirement is not practical: if you are the person that need 10Gbps LAN ports, you would buy a dedicated SWITCH. The main purpose of a router is connect clients to ISP, and make the routing process. People with a pc that have 10Gbps LAN port would put the process overhead on a switch, not their router. And people that don't need a switch won't pay for 10Gbps LAN ports either.
Liêm Nguyễn Hữu they didn’t state a use case so you really have no way of knowing. You still need a router or AP at minimum with a switch so why bother with the cost of a 10gb switch and router.
Amazing how ASUS has the audacity to charge $350 for such an amazing hardware but continues to includes $0.50 flimsy power button which is NOT covered under warranty and is NOT repairable. I had the power button of AC66U fail on me two years ago and was shocked to learn that. May be the ASUS India's repair policy is terrible.
You really need a new design team, all your ROG products and now your routers look like they designed by a school child, all the sharp triangular shaped ridges etc. like a military bomber or something, we not all FPS gamers. If you feel this gains you customers, maybe it does, but its also losing you customers, I will never buy a router looking like that, #i suggest having a legacy alternative design on your products available for purchase..
the thing that pisses me off to no end is front mounted USB ports WHY just WHY ! at least this one has at least one USB 3.0 on back though unlike most of their routers i really hate devices that have ports on front but not in back , ,it is ok to have one or two in front as long as you have ample number in back, this is why i hate the PS3 and PS4 design , to keep my controllers charged i need to have unsightly wires hangin out the front of my media shelf, and for VR, and HDD as well , yeah the pro has on in back but still i can not understand why they put ports on front of devices that they do not even have in back
dont buy #Asus Product i am buy asus zenfone max pro after 2 month my phone is ded but Care Center not replace my phone now my 13000 rupee is lost for buy Asus phone dont buy pleas
@@miclan386 they are not that bad , they replaced my router almost near the end of the 2 year warranty , and they finally let me do a chargeback and get the new one before i sent the broken one back , which they refused to do for the longest time , i think it also depends which country you are in too though some countries probably do not have good support, i am in the US and Asus has good support here, Huawei not so much , my Huawei phone broke well under warranty and they refuse to fix it, send it for RMA 4 times and got the same phone back still broke every single time but i saw that in EU they have places you can walk in and get your phone fixed in front of you , so depends on the company and where you are some companies have good support in some countries but not in other countries
There should be no problem at all using it with any provider as long as you have the modem of your isp you just connect the modem with The Asus Wan port and u are good to go.
Why not just have few 10G ports on it so you could use that capacity?
but how does it work? is it the hardware or could a high end AC router be firmware upgraded to use AX? how much processing power does iit need? could my RT AC5300 get a AX firmware upgrade some day or will it become obsolete? will the processor be too slow to handle it?
the companies want you to buy a new router as much as possible. sadly giving old routers the new speeds doesn't make sense even if possible businesswise
Does your ax58u have built in vpn?
My internet connection uses an RJ11 feed (ADSL), but I notice the input to the router is RJ45. But I noticed he had 2 different retail boxes on the table. Is one RJ45 & the other an RJ11 input?
can it be wall mounted?
Yes it can be wall mounted
Are there comming any new Asus cm?? Router/modem with ax and wpa3 support in 2019? With docsis 3.1
Complaints:
1. He said 2.5GHz instead of 2.4GHz.
2. He said that AC ran at 1.1GBps instead of 1.1Gbps.
3. I don't own one yet, nor does my local ISP offer gigabit speeds.
For #3: You don't need gigabit internet speeds to saturate the network. You can do things like transfer a file through your local network.
Yes, megabits and megabytes are not the same. See here: th-cam.com/video/Dnd28lQHquU/w-d-xo.html
As @justaway said, you do not need to have ISP speeds that matches your router's capabilities, your local network can easily push your hardware to it's limits. I have 4x Google Home Minis, 1 chromecast, at least 2 (occasionally 3) tablets nearly always on in my household primetime, 2 Smart TVs, 2 PCs, 3 laptops, 2 cellphones. I have not yet counted the gaming consoles...
With all that hardware taxing my current router: RT-AC68U, my network sometimes struggles to keep up, especially if I am trying to stream a 4k @ 60fps game from my PC to my living room TV, something I can do with barely any noticeable latency if I'm alone in the house. Now, I may be a bigger user than most but we are all heading in the same direction, a router such as the RT-AX88U should make chump change of my current use and then some.
Is this modem and router? And if just a router what modem is recommended
Does it have NAT loopback
Can someone please share what are the exact dimensions of this router INCLUDING mounted antennas?
i just got mine, but im struggling to set it up on my 2012 Macbook Pro
The issue there might be the networking card *inside* the Macbook Pro.
Hmmmm thks for the info. I was considering the ASUS RT-AC88U. ?Could you terse comparison ac, ad, & ax wifi routers and why multiple standard came about or are needed? Thks again
I have the ac88u and it's a beast. It's performance is unparalleled
On the WTFast, do i need to subscribe monthly to WTFast in order to use that feature? Or WTFast will work without having a monthly subscription to it?
You can use 1 device for a lifetime, but if you want wtfast for another device you need subscription for that.
Which is better, the RT-AX88U or the Asus ROG GT-AC5300???
Is there Coming wpa3 support fore the Asus rt-ac86u / rt-ax88u ??
There is wpa3 included
Wall mount?
Another awesome thing that I can't afford
You're not missing much. AX is not much of an improvement over AC.
Just wait for at least a year, you'll get the price drop and very stable firmware with merlin support. And then buy it.
@@opendebate AX offers no increase in speed over AC it's been tested the last month and no reason to buy an AX router.
@@JayzBeerz AX's still new and devices that support it almost none existence. OEM just starts implementing it this year. Given the time it'll surely improve as many things in tech.
Can this be used as a repeater ?
Yes it can be used as a repeater, router or bridg, or AP ( access point)
Yes it can
What's the real-world range of the AX on this router? I heard the Netgear AX8 has pretty bad range.
Because it has the Asus router is amazing nothing more to say
I bought the Asus RT-AX88U yesterday. And I use Tp-link AX3000 Archer TX300E PCIE adapter in my Dell XPS pc. I connect to 5 Ghz at channel 100 (less congestion) and 160 Mhz. And I have Verizon Gigabit speed 950 MBPS service. But I only get wireless speed of 300 mbps to 400 mbps. I cannot go further up. This is way off as advertised.
That sounds about right for wireless, maybe a little slow. The advertised 6000mbps is all protocols combined, so wireless N+AC+AX. It's bad advertising but every company does this. If your wired speed was that slow I would be concerned, feel free to reply if you have more questions!
P.S. I'm guessing you aren't using the new AX standard, there are very few devices that support it right now.
Most high-end consumer routers are going beyond 1 Gbps ethernet and WiFi. Meanwhile world average internet bandwidth is still way below 50 Mbps. So basically we pay for the features we aren't going to use, at least not for another 5 years.
You do use it when communicating between devices in your household.
Imagine you want to transfer files from your PC to your NAS (which is connected to your router via ethernet). Now we are limited in ethernet speeds to 1Gbps, as very few routers offer anything faster, but assuming I have a very good network card in my computer, like the PCE-AC88, I'd be able to transfer files to my router at the quoted figure of 1.1Gbps, which would then be able to transfer that to my NAS at 1Gbps.
Now 1.1Gbps is a bit of a best case scenario, since the two devices here were right next to each other, but lets assume they are close, that means if I want to watch a movie on my TV... I could transfer it at 125MB/s. Now a 1080p movie encoded in good quality is around 6000kbps, which when you follow the math, you good an average size of a 1080p movie in good quality to be 5GB. This means I could have my movie on my NAS in 40 seconds and ready for viewing on any device.
Now there are issues, like 125MB/s being fairly fast, which would be at the limit of modern HDD can do, but getting a good Sata 3 SSD like the 860 Evo would comfortably put you in safe territory with read and write speeds of over 500MB/s.
Now this is only one example, currently your smart TV, or smart appliance requires a processor for video playback. Let's say you connect an HDMI cable from your 1080p laptop to TV, because you want to show your monitor on the TV. A 1080p60hz uncompressed signal requires around 3Gbps, which an HDMI cable can carry no problem (HDMI 2.0 can carry 14.4Gbps of data), which means your TV doesn't need to use a processor for anything, it just displays the input received. Versus what you have to do wirelessly now, is attach some kind of processor, like a Google Chromecast, Roku, etc, and your PC essentially points to where on the internet the material can be found, and gets the TV to download it and decompress it (essentially working as it's own computer, but specializing in video playback).
As I mentioned, this requires 3Gbps for a 1080p60Hz screen, we're getting very close, with the 2.62Gbps here, and Wigig raises that even more in limited circumstances. We're getting to a point, where instead of having all your smart appliance circuitry on your appliances, have them all on a central computer... On the appliance only have a wifi chip and sensors, and let the central computer handle all computation and send back any display/audio outputs. We could get to a point where we could even remove the CPU's, GPU's, and RAM from our computers, and just have one central computer in the household that has all these components. By sharing them all we could greatly reduce the cost. Simply perform an action with the mouse/keyboard, have this action be sent to the central computer, have it compute the output, and send it back to your computer through a fast wifi card. I mean it's like the same thing as having one rig with really really long cables to your peripherals and your monitor, and putting your computer in another room. But that monitor is connected to 4 different monitors, with each monitor in a separate room, essentially giving you 4 computers for the price of 1, plus some wifi cards (which could be added into the monitors for example).
Such an amazing router can't wait until i saved enough so i can get it! 😍
just ordered myne yesterday, cant wait to get this bad boy up and running
No 2.5Gb or 5Gb ethernet ports is the reason I'm not upgrading my RT-AC3100 + 2x RT-AC68U mesh system to the new models. Huge failure from Asus in my opinion.
ASUS wit h a device this expensive please include a built in modem for dsl/fttc so we can ditch the bt 3rd party routers
why 3 ports?
I was going to buy this if it has 10gbps Lan ports, looks like I will have to wait another year.
You are putting unnecessary payment on household consumers.
your requirement is not practical: if you are the person that need 10Gbps LAN ports, you would buy a dedicated SWITCH. The main purpose of a router is connect clients to ISP, and make the routing process.
People with a pc that have 10Gbps LAN port would put the process overhead on a switch, not their router. And people that don't need a switch won't pay for 10Gbps LAN ports either.
Liêm Nguyễn Hữu they didn’t state a use case so you really have no way of knowing. You still need a router or AP at minimum with a switch so why bother with the cost of a 10gb switch and router.
but what is the benefit instead of getting an older ac model with twice the antennas like the ac 5300
Asus whatTF are you doing? this a advertising spot not a performance test!
Do you guys include a password in the box ?
Aliloswag you make the password and username on their website
Shit, I have 1,2 Gbit internet speed and my gbit netis router speed is 300 mbit on lan port, wtf? Why nobody tests routers on a lan connector
A new era has begun!
뭐라고 하는지는 몰라도 마지막에 2.6기가 나온다니 속도대박!
I don't need to see someone to open a box. I need review after solid test.
Amazing how ASUS has the audacity to charge $350 for such an amazing hardware but continues to includes $0.50 flimsy power button which is NOT covered under warranty and is NOT repairable. I had the power button of AC66U fail on me two years ago and was shocked to learn that. May be the ASUS India's repair policy is terrible.
I have my power button wedged in between the top of the cupboard and the router with a smal stick to have it working.. so far so good
I love this
You really need a new design team, all your ROG products and now your routers look like they designed by a school child, all the sharp triangular shaped ridges etc. like a military bomber or something, we not all FPS gamers.
If you feel this gains you customers, maybe it does, but its also losing you customers, I will never buy a router looking like that, #i suggest having a legacy alternative design on your products available for purchase..
I like their shapes.
You must be the guy at the party who talks about being vegan...
the thing that pisses me off to no end is front mounted USB ports WHY just WHY !
at least this one has at least one USB 3.0 on back though unlike most of their routers
i really hate devices that have ports on front but not in back , ,it is ok to have one or two in front as long as you have ample number in back, this is why i hate the PS3 and PS4 design , to keep my controllers charged i need to have unsightly wires hangin out the front of my media shelf, and for VR, and HDD as well , yeah the pro has on in back but still
i can not understand why they put ports on front of devices that they do not even have in back
Router industry should get bumped. What on earth are they doing? So stupid.
wow
they are too close together can cause interference and unrealiable tests on wifi
Асус нах вы добавили авто клаву
It's a thing not a he.
Lol, am go glad u did NOT say rooter.
its 2019 soon 2020 and still no 10 gbit standard being used, cos no one has the guts, even Trump has more guts to do things.
dont buy #Asus Product i am buy asus zenfone max pro after 2 month my phone is ded but Care Center not replace my phone now my 13000 rupee is lost for buy Asus phone dont buy pleas
its not real !! I buy soo much from #Asus and for example i have an laptot asus from 10 years and now is dead after 10 years. I like #Asus products
Separate entity - Asus routers are good
asus has gone to shit. they are so don't give a shit about the consumer
@@miclan386 they are not that bad , they replaced my router almost near the end of the 2 year warranty , and they finally let me do a chargeback and get the new one before i sent the broken one back , which they refused to do for the longest time , i think it also depends which country you are in too though
some countries probably do not have good support, i am in the US and Asus has good support here, Huawei not so much , my Huawei phone broke well under warranty and they refuse to fix it, send it for RMA 4 times and got the same phone back still broke every single time but i saw that in EU they have places you can walk in and get your phone fixed in front of you , so depends on the company and where you are some companies have good support in some countries but not in other countries
i just did, here in denmark 2 years your product needs to run, or you can get money back. your not from denmark, haha on you;-D
Can i use this with any wifi isp?
There should be no problem at all using it with any provider as long as you have the modem of your isp you just connect the modem with The Asus Wan port and u are good to go.