For anyone who sees this, could you pray for Bridget from Ireland. She's my mother. She's a beautiful God loving woman who has been battling cancer for the past few years.
My wife got it too. We pray and try to deal with cancer naturally. We left hospitals to avoid poisoning ( chemo) and cuting off the parts of my wife's body- crippling her permanently without any assurance anyway . We are in peace and left all in the hands of our Lord. After all we all must get home. Godbless you and your mom.
Amen, brother. One important distinction to make is that Pope St. Peter wasn't authentically and authoritatively excerising his office as Shepard of the Universal Church when he was corrected by St. Paul. Instead, I believe he was 'caving in' to Jewish customs in his local diocese. Nowadays, we see a lot of "St. Pauls" trying to correct "St. Peter" in official, magisterial documents like Amoris Laetitia, which I believe is a big no-no. If St. Peter, or any Pope, formally attempted to teach error and compel the Universal Church to submit to such teaching, the Holy Spirit would not allow it. Our Lord prayed for St. Peter that his "faith may not fail" . Attempting to formally define error would quality as a "failed faith".
@@bryincda the folks older than me have been watching this slow motion car crash for decades. Stinks. Oh well. We get what we collectively deserve. We will make it through. Glory is on the other side of this fiasco. God bless.
As long as majority of Catholics are happy with a pope who speak to them what they want to hear, to justify their sinful lifestyle. Have you notice that Catholics easily trample under their feet the Teachings of Jesus but dare touch The Pope...it's pathetic.
I’ve been watching since my first communion in 1965. The ND sisters in LA traded their habits for jeans and sweatshirts. My mom pulled us all out of the parochial schools.
@@littlerock5256 There's no version of "wrong" that provides immunity from correction. Wrong is just wrong. Jesus Christ is quite literally the ONLY human being who has ever walked this earth that could never be credibly "corrected" owing to his being literal, living, breathing, walking, talking TRUTH in the flesh. Even Our Blessed Lady, sinless though she was, may have possibly been "wrong" on some issue or other, beyond her capacity, so could theoretically have been corrected on it. Some of you seem to think the Pope is a reincarnation of Christ rather than his chief servant, who occupies the office, not of Christ, but of Peter! It's beyond embarrassing! PS: The title, (which, by the way, is shared by all Bishops) is "Vicar" of Christ, not Avatar of Christ ...
@@AuthenticityVeritas A pope can be corrected for personal failing such as St. Paul did with St. Peter. But a pope cannot be corrected by saying that someone he canonized isn't really a saint or say his teaching on faith and morals in an encyclical or an ecumenical council is incorrect. It is Church teaching that Christ and His Vicar constitute one head. Francis has rejected this title.
@@rosezingleman5007 A pope is protected by the promises of Our Lord and perennial Church teaching from every teaching "contrary to the faith, scripture, instruction of the Magisterium."
@@johnisaacfelipe6357 Can you point me to Church teaching that defines this? This was explained by Pope St. Pius X. However, Burke is with them. Did you know Burke accepted a man posing as a woman to start an order of nuns?
I met Cardinal Burke Briefly in Ireland around 5 years ago, I was on my Bike and decided to see what all the fuss was about outside a local church I was all in my cycling gear and it was a cold evening I was coming home from work , he had just said a confirmation mass it was in the evening time so I decided to make my way in the side entrance, the church was empty he was walking back up the aisle in his priestly Garments and his crozier in hand with two young priests following him in respect, he seemed in deep reverence to the Eucharist in the tabernacle I welcomed him to Ireland and put out my hand he gently squeezed it and said thank you ,he passed on up to the altar genuflected and bowed his head , it was a surreal experience .
St. Catherine of Siena, simple girl from poor family convinced the Pope to return the papacy to Rome from Avignon and encouraged him to ignore the advice of his cardinals. So back in the “oppressive Dark Ages” the Pope would listen to a simple young girl reminding him of what’s right thing to do.
The guy served the church his whole life.. then gets his ability to live taken away, for clinging to actual doctrine and getting on the bad side of the Pope who has apparently let so many actual crimes slide from other people. The only thing held sacred now is that the Pope is infalible and unquestionable. Very depressing.
@Walrus. You can serve Jesus all your life and then fall badly, and this does not go without consequences. He can criticise, but the Christian . + way is to do so privately.
@@wendyfield7708 The Christian way huh? What about your Christian pope started behaving as a Christian? I am disgusted by such level of idolatry. Do you even know what Cdl Burke said?
Jesus calmed the sea in very stormy waters. As we experience the current tumult of Holy Mother Church, trust in and stay close to Jesus. We’re being severely tested now, but our Lord will bring us safely home. God bless.
I love Brian. And I, unfortunately, wouldnt call this "fully informed". By a long shot. THIS is fully informed: th-cam.com/video/CTqHUaC8vhE/w-d-xo.html
Anyone can correct the pope (or anyone else, for that matter). One only needs to speak the truth. Whether or not that truth is received, is another matter--and that is the responsibility of the one who is corrected. Cardinal Burke will be fine. He has no need to worry about his welfare.
@@littlerock5256Only God knows if the canonized are properly canonized. You do not have to be canonized to be a saint. I have my doubts about anything this faux pope does. He does not appear to be Christian much less a Catholic. Bergoglio fruits are absolutely hypocritical to say the least. He has openly worshipped idols could go on and on
@@edwinkubena9944 Pope Francis is probably not the greatest pope we have had in the last two thousand years or so. But to be clear, he is absolutely not the worst, either. In fact, compared to most of the "bad ones," Pope Francis is, even by the standards of his most uncharitable critics, not even in the same league as someone like, say, Sergius III. I would caution anyone against labeling Pope Francis a false pope for two reasons: First, we have neither the competence nor the authority to make that determination. We were not privy to the goings-on of the last conclave. We do not know if the conditions for determining whether a pope is false have been met. In fact, we do not even know what those conditions are. Second, the temptation to reject his authority surely comes from the evil one. The many "traditionalist" groups that exist today are a testament to the dangers of appointing oneself as an arbiter of papal legitimacy. Many schismatics reject the papacies of John XXIII, and as a natural consequence of that, must also reject the papacies of Paul VI, JP1, JP2, BXVI, and Francis. Do you want to start down that route? An antipope is a pretender who has assumed that office illegitimately. It is NOT a pope who believes ridiculous things, nor is it a pope who lives an immoral lifestyle. It is NOT a pope who disregards the welfare of his flock. Assuming the office of the papacy falsely is completely different from not liking the disciplinary, political, and theological views that a particular pope seems to embrace.
@@littlerock5256 First, the one who corrects must speak the truth. Canonizations are, evidently, infallible. Consequently, one cannot correct that which is already true.
I want to give public thanks & praise to God for healing Cardinal Burke when he was was very sick with the FAUCI bug. We all said rosaries for him & God gave us a miracle. PRAISE BE TO GOD. And I love Cardinal Burke. ❤
When the Pope pulls a “Fauci” and claims that to criticize his words or actions is to criticize “the Church” or “the Science”… then we are in trouble! Even more trouble when that authority is abused unjustly to punish those who offer correction in brotherly love in order to support, heal and grow genuine love (willing good of the other, not unlimited tolerance of others) in the Church and her teachings towards holiness and salvation. ❤ ✝️ Those who suffer for the Church and Christ’s sake will have their eternal reward!
@@benecliptus You are right that David isn't analogous to the Pope, but to Christ himself. It is David's SERVANT who held David's keys that is analogous to Peter, and so to the Pope. How vapid minded to think the servant above the King, lol. David can be corrected but not the holder of his keys... in some people's insane thinking. Thankfully, St. Peter didn't share these narcissistic delusions.
@@AuthenticityVeritas the analogy still doesn't work. Nathan was a prophet and therefore in a unique position of authority. He was an advisor to David, not a servant. The only person Nathan served was God.
@@benecliptusI believe Catholic papal teaching makes the analogy. It may pick & choose what is analogous. But David is a type of Christ, not a type of the pope.
Cardinal Burke is not without portfolio in Rome. He is a member of two dicasteries, and of the Apostolic Signatura, the high court of the Church’s legal system. Pope Francis reappointed him to that in 2017.
The likes of Michael Lofton (or others acting like ultra-montanists) are too hypocritical, lost in their own misinspired thoughts. At the same time, they often consider themselves "above" other theologians (who have 10 times their experience), which makes it worst. They need to grow in wisdom, simply put.
''Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look long into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you.'' -Nietzsche
How is it NOT hypocritical, for a high ranking cleric to promote “listening and tolerance” one minute, and then next minute betray his preaching, by being a tone deaf bully?
“The teachers of religious law and the Pharisees are the official interpreters of the law of Moses. So practice and obey whatever they tell you, but don’t follow their example. For they don’t practice what they teach.” Matthew 23:2-3
We're not talking about explaining to Francis that "the lady's name was Martha, not Mary" or things of that nature. We're talking about theological instruction in an official capacity.
If we know the Truth, we have our duties and responsibilities to defend the Holy Catholic Church, the people of God, and must speak the Truth of the Gospel, and the Tradional teachings of the Holy Catholic Church that they may know the Way to eternal life in heaven.
A cardinal can certainly comment on a Pope and even claim to be "correcting" him (though whether it counts as a correction is entirely another matter - sometimes it is personalities, and not a lack of doctrinal orthodoxy on either's part.) But the Pope is not obligated to welcome those criticisms, nor is he obligated to richly reward his critics with the life of Riley in Vatican City. Both things are true.
Everyone who personally knows the man Cdl Raymond Burke, say unanimously that he’s the kindest and most respectful man, humble even though he is very intelligent and knowledgeable in matters of the Faith and canon law. And yet we have so many popesplainers jumping in to applaud their hero pope’s actions and policies even when for a fraction of such stuff they would have judged and criticized Benedict XVI or even JPII! It’s indeed ironic but such are the times that Our Blessed Mother has spoken of and warned us even. Akita, Garabandal and probably more. So here we are. Now it’s simply upto each one of us to be right before God personally. All the rest, is not our business. He’s in charge and will bring greater Good from all our evil. He will guard and watch over his faithful shepherds like Burke too. I’m confident and I hope we can persevere no matter what more scandal we will see in our lifetime.🙏🏼
The Apostle Paul openly criticised the Apostle Peter for not eating with the Gentiles. Then Peter turned from his sin. No one (other then God obviously) should be put on a pedestal where we think he cannot be wrong.
A pope ought to invite correction. In humility, all of us who have roles as leaders in Catholicism (Catholic elementary school principal) we need to always be open to loving correction to ensure we stay true to tradition and truth. Anything that suggests otherwise should be held as highly suspicious.
What? Are you talking about Burks? Cardinal Burke and archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò accepted bride? Burke accepted to fill his coffer to live in luxury however Carlo Maria Viganò gave it away!
Yes. The only Person that we can not correct is God which this Pope is trying to do. Admonish is not to be always gentle if stubborness and heresy is involved. Prople are parsnoied with 'gentleness' word . Like with 'judment' word.
Our Lady, too, who never sinned. But we don't live with her, so yeah: By definition, anyone capable of sin and error can be corrected and all popes, starting with the one named Rock, himself, are sinners capable of error. I can't believe popesplainers have riled and trolled everyone into thinking this is a legitimate question! It's unreal.
Francis is a great compass for Catholics: whatever his position is on a subject, do the exact opposite and you’ll be a good Christian. Francis abusing his religious position to serve his political views made me realize that religion shouldn’t be this hierarchical and is better off decentralized. My family is 1/2 Italian and 1/2 Spanish and therefore very Catholic. I’ve made relatives mad in the last decade for criticizing the man (and not the position) but today even my 96 years old nonna admits he is a force of evil.
Really? For instance this? "In today’s world, voices are being raised which we cannot ignore and which implore our Churches to live deeply our identity as disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ. The first of these voices is that of the poor. In the world, there are too many women and men who suffer from severe malnutrition, growing unemployment, the rising numbers of unemployed youth, and from increasing social exclusion. These can give rise to criminal activity and even the recruitment of terrorists. We cannot remain indifferent before the cries of our brothers and sisters. " Do the opposite of that, and you may find your everlasting destiny may not be the place you presume it to be.
Every child of God - meaning every person being part of His people - not only can, but also has the duty to stand up in the face of error regarding the Revelation of God - no matter who it utters.
But if the pope is NOT changing any of the immutable Dogmas of the Church? What if the Cardinal is only raising unjustified fears? Cardinal Burke has been so focused on the purely-advisory Synod on Synodality, that he has not given the pope any support in combating the German Synodal Way -- which has plans to tear apart the unity of the Church. Cardinal Burke is such a talented man. I wish he would use those talents to help the pope calm the voices of disunity on the Right and on the Left.
We should remember that the approved apparitions of LaSallette and Fatima and Akita all foretold of apostasy at the highest level of the Church. Blessed Fulton Sheen (he is a blessed, right?) said the laity would save the church. “The remnant” of the faithful *is a thing* so maybe we need to ask ourselves is this that time?
Formal hæresy isn't contingent upon trial and judgement by the Church. Formal hæresy could be private and interior. Formal hæresy is more than material hæresy in that in involves subjective guilt in addition to objectively hæretical matter. Nor is manifest hæresy necessarily contingent upon an ecclesial judgement. If a priest came out one day denying the doctrines of justification, eternal punishment, the Immaculate Conception, the uniqueness and unity of the Church, changed the doctrine on capital punishment, referred to transvestites by their preferred pronouns, promoted homosexual civil unions, disrespected the Traditional Roman rite and its associated theology, claimed that atheists would or could go to heaven, participated in non-Catholic worship, claimed that God wills plurality of religions, and that proselytism is sinful, or espoused theistic communism; the hæresy would be manifest.
You are missing the point that its is the contradictory writings produced by the fallible Magisterium that need to be reconciled. The magisterium created the problem.
Becareful Michael Lofton seems to target Brian Now but Michael Lofton avoids Terry Barber , Timothy Gordon , City of light for dialogue or debates…… 🤷🏻♂️ he’s targeting brian though… Keep it up brian ❤️
The Dubbia is a formal procedure which isn't taken lightly. It was submitted by more than one Cardinal. Pope Francis did not respond in a timely manner.
Dear@@rosezingleman5007, actually, he did send a response to the cardinals. When they published their second set of Dubia, they quoted from it. And he and Cardinal Fernandez published the full answers to the 5 questions, which removed all need for the second set of questions, because he had answered them fully. But there are news outlets that don't seem to feel it is important to publish what the pope say.
I have been posting the sane thing. And St Catherine is now a Doctor of the Church. I don't know why there are people who think you can't question the Pope.
Of course YES, that's why they are Cardinals, to assist, help the Popes. And in case they are wrong, make the corrections, that is why the Cardinalisian DUBIAS exist. And this is how the Apostle Paul corrected our First Pope Saint Peter.
Here’s my correcting you: we have no obligation as subjects to give our bishop our money. The precept is that we support the Church, not any particular bishop.
If a bishop is urging the use of church collections for something that a person thinks is wrong and he tries, in charity to point this out, by withholding funds from that collection they are not using a form of justice against the bishop but rather exercising prudential judgment.
Lofton clearly stated that Burke in making corrections to the pope thought Burke was not uncharitable. But when you get clarification, you have to acknowledge and publicly correct the wrong that you put out.
Pope Benedict XVI - MASS OF POSSESSION OF THE CHAIR OF THE BISHOP OF ROME Saturday, 7 May 2005 “The Pope is not an absolute monarch whose thoughts and desires are law. On the contrary: the Pope's ministry is a guarantee of obedience to Christ and to his Word. He must not proclaim his own ideas, but rather constantly bind himself and the Church to obedience to God's Word, in the face of every attempt to adapt it or water it down, and every form of opportunism.”
Pope John XXII had not spoken in ex-cathedra language, hasn't directed his personal opinion to the whole Church. This is not the same ballpark. The issue has not yet been settled, because whole ordeal happened before apostolic constitution Benedictus Deus On the Beatific Vision of God has been directed to the whole Church (1334) by Pope Benedict XII. This is completely moot point. From the other hand, Catholic dogma with regard to the General Judgment: the Resurrection of the Body has been already settled, and frankly explained in CREDO... but no-one was correcting Benedict XVI while he published his heretical statements regarding this: Benedict XVI, Introduction to Christianity, 2004, p. 349: “It now becomes clear that the real heart of faith in the resurrection does not consist at all in the idea of the restoration of bodies, to which we have reduced it in our thinking; such is the case even though this is the pictorial image used throughout the Bible.” Benedict XVI, Introduction to Christianity, 2004, pp. 357-358: “To recapitulate, Paul teaches, not the resurrection of physical bodies, but the resurrection of persons…” Not in charity, nor in justice, Benedict XVI hasn't retracted this, among many other manifested heresies before his death. He taught them, he manifested them, and lived them. He was never a Pope.
Careful, Brian. Lofton might respond with a 3 hour fanfiction speculation video for exactly why Burke deserved everything he got with facts and logic...
The example of Pope John XXII does not work because his belief on the Beatific Vision was just that of a private individual. When he spoke of his erring belief in public it was only to local congregations via sermons as the Bishop of Rome, not in his magisterial capacity as the Universal Pontiff. He made it expressly clear in his writings that it was his private belief and that in no way was he trying to impose it on the faithful. But with regards to the issue of heresy, it’s ultimately a moot point because the correct understanding of the Beatific Vision was not even declared a dogma until after he died.
"Now our adversaries respond that the Church ought to hear him (Roman Pontiff) so long as he teaches correctly for God must be heard more than men. On the other hand, who will judge whether the Pope has taught rightly or not? For it is not for the sheep to judge whether the shepherd wanders off, not even and especially in those matters which are truly doubtful. Nor do Christian sheep have any greater judge or teacher to whom they might have recourse. As we showed above, from the whole Church, one can appeal to the pope; yet from him no one is able to appeal; therefore necessarily the whole Church will err; if the Pontiff would err." - St. Robert Bellarmine.
Here is the most important basic to return to-the eucharistic Royal Priesthood, what the entire clerical class, the truly good (Bishop Barron an archetype) and the truly bad (Fr. James Martin the archetype, even though he is ignorant that he was awarded by Satan the privilege of leading the charge to destroy the lives and souls of Catholic children) are both adamant is preventing the restoration of the Royal Priesthood, what only the saintly Pope Francis is trying to restore, with the clerical class being blindly adamant in preventing: Pope Francis’ 1st priority, as it was for his immediate predecessors, the saintly Pope Benedict XVI and St. John Paul the Great, is to sustain what little Unity there is, and build towards a greater Unity WITHOUT generating more disunity, a seemingly impossible task (and please give Pope Francis credit for finding a way to deal with the footloose and fancy free, unknown to themselves, corrupt bishops, cardinals and pastors in Germany on the front lines advancing Satan’s Sexual Liberation Movement). It became clear Benedict XVI was totally supportive of Francis’ “confusing” strategy to go up against Satan’s Army of Bishops and Cardinals dedicated, in not so subtle ways, to being Satan’s Primary Warriors in his Sexual Liberation Assault against the Church, Satan’s most successful and most widespread assault in all of Church history (made abundantly clear in most every bishop, cardinal and pastor choosing to take Satan’s side in trying to destroy the Holy Spirit’s Sword of Justice he gifted to St. Paul VI to use, his Humane Vitae, what most bishops, cardinals and parish pastors still reject, made clear in their refusal to use it and its miraculous elaboration in John Paul the Great’s saintly explication on what human sexuality means in God’s Plan for us, Theology of the Body. Now reflect on the fact that STILL over 99% of bishops, cardinals and parish pastors refuse to educate us laity on ANY detail of Satan’s relentless and most successful war ever waged against the Church. And the clerical class, as a whole, are still adamant in refusing to arm us faithful to war against this grand assault through the restoration of Assembly Life, Mystagogy & Spiritual Direction (Royal Priesthood-Christian Brotherhood-Synod on Synodality), what is absolutely required for us laity to prepare to go out, and why there has been no initiative by any cleric (bishop, cardinal, pastor) to prepare us laity to Go Out as Jesus insisted. And because the clerical class as a whole is close to totally blind to this, regardless how much rhetoric rolls off their tongues in advancing lay formation and new evangelization, they, in fact, are relentlessly engaged in stifling lay formation and the new evangelization, deciding instead to suffocate our lay minds and disable us from action as true evangelizers, refusing to allow us laity to have any voice at all after they destroyed the Royal Priesthood (a true Christian Brotherhood that would allow Laity back into the fold of discernment), the ONLY way Jesus arranged for us laity to have a voice-NOT through a democratic sharing of power, of governance, for that governance is restricted by God to clerics ordained and gifted by the Holy Spirit at ordination to do so, what can only be ordained priests. But there is no Assembly Life (the ONLY phenomenon that allows laity to truly have a voice, as it was in the beginning, utterly destroyed by the clerical class centuries ago. And that speaks all of it). Here are the synonymous titles: Christian Brotherhood, Royal Priesthood and Synod on Synodality, the ONLY path to the restoration of a true Unity of the Body of Christ, laity and cleric alike. This IS Pope Francis’ singular mission resisted by the clerical class with a vengeance, and this resistance is the singular most powerful act in supporting Satan’s radically divisive way of holding the clerical class captive to politically manufactured narratives of meaning, a radical diminishment of a Way offered to us in every second by the Holy Spirit who is no longer listened to by pastors governing our Archdioceses, all of them held in abeyance just like us faithful laity are held in abeyance by those clerics, having nowhere to go to prepare to Go Out as Jesus insisted, where our personhoods begin to appear, what is literally not possible until the clerical class decides to restore to us laity what they had taken from us many centuries ago, what God had gifted to ALL his children, cleric and lay alike-the Royal Priesthood made up of Assembly Life, Mystagogy and Spiritual Direction, the absolute-complete gift from God that makes possible lay formation and a new evangelization. Absent the Royal Priesthood, we continue to languish. We can’t even remember when we were told to bury our talents in the back yard. That because it most often begins at age 2 or 3. That’s the precise result of having cancelled God’s Great Gift to evangelize every Catholic’s heart. To be absolutely clear, all us Christians and everyone else in the World have been held captive to Satan's Orchestration of this World. And how successful he has been was made perfectly clear when the entirety of Vatican officials blindly blessed the mission of Fr. James Martin to go out into this World orchestrated by Satan and destroy the souls of Catholic children, him unknowingly the main front-line Catholic warrior in Satan's Army. That he has been blessed in this mission reveals what the end result has been with the clerical cancellation-emasculation of the Royal Priesthood so many centuries ago. It's all coming out in the wash today, and that laundry is dripping filthy grease. So it is in this sermon from Bishop Barron. Although speaking a fundamental truth of the faith life, in that illumination he also creates absolute cover for Fr. Martina and the entire clerical class complicit in killing off the Royal Priesthood and keeping it buried in its lonely grave, basically implying unintentionally that us clerically abandoned laity don't need any clerical guidance. Forget all that and just open yourselves to God's grace, a Protestant comfort. The word "addiction" is a word Satan used to replace the word "obsession", an obsession inside a willfulness in opposing God’s will (what we generally refuse to look at, the most unconfessed sin). This use of the word “addiction” in dismissing willful obsession has become a way of turning sinners into helpless victims, what the non-Christian Marcus Aurelius found to be nauseatingly self-defeating, and him not being listened to is what moved Camus to write his Myth of Sisyphus). I became a street kid at age 8, and at a certain point, at age 11, I consciously chose to reject God’s assistance, speaking that rebellion directly into God’s darkness in the middle of a dark wooded area at the center of an ice pond (no doubt a door into Dante’s Hell) where we were alone together, and he fully honored my totally willful rebellion (I was no victim-it was pure choice), both of us in his all-encompassing Love understanding. with perfect clarity, the fact that it was HE who gave me that radical gift of freedom to choose at the deepest unimaginable level! That great mystery of freedom speaks perfectly, absent words, the great Mystery of Evil even Christian psychologists unintentionally (in real ignorance) prevent us from discerning. And I eventually came to learn with theological precision from Hans Urs von Balthasar how radical a gift of freedom God did grant to us. And through many years of fully committing to indulging 24/7 an anesthetizing of my existential pains and sufferings, including a 3-year obsession with injecting China White heroin, I refused all 12-step programs as an alternative to doing prison time, always abiding in my rebellious freedom-that rebellion against God as the only way of being totally free in secular terms, what God gifted to me! But God chose to deliver me into his missionary ways at age 38, after my daughter was born. You see, I knew my fully-aware rebellion against God so thoroughly, I knew simultaneously with absolute existential authority-certainty that I would destroy my daughter inside my rebellion, dragging her down into Satan’s Ice-Chamber for eternity with me, what I had accepted for myself. And that’s when I fell to my knees and begged God to raise my daughter for me through my submission to the ways the Holy Spirit would lovingly reveal to me in every second through his absolute love for my daughter and me. No 12-step program gifts this ultimate Freedom that is accessed ONLY by freely willing to enter into Christ’s Flesh on his Cross and abide there as the saints have done from the beginning.
1) St. Thomas Aquinas specifically said that a person who is of lower rank is not permitted to publicly correct a prelate in a way that would cause scandal among the faithful. He is allowed to correct in private. 2) This still does not address criticizing the pope.
I am a life-long 76 year-old practicing Catholic layman and taught theology for 35 years (M. Rel. Ed). I personally am REALLY getting sick & tired of hearing about Francis' daily antics and the hair-splitting that goes on regarding any criticism of him. The pope has absolutely no direct effect on my daily life; I just go along with things as I always have done. We were better off as Catholics when we went along practicing our Faith and the pope WAS NOT daily fodder for TH-cam addicts!!!
What decent bishop/priest next? Let's watch. (Meanwhile: Martin's kind, abortionists e tutti quanti either remain in position or even promoted/allocated new ones).
I’m not going into the question if a Cardinal can correct the pope, I don’t necessarily have an enough informed opinion on this, since e.g. Pope Saint Paul II seems to say no, but I’ll leave that up to you and Lofton to discuss. Something I‘d like to comment on is your comparison with laypeople criticizing a Cardinal. Any cardinal is not the superior of all lay people. You should get a bit into the section of the CIC about cardinals, unless they are specifically authorized by the pope according to to Can 358, they have no superiority over any layperson. That might be different if they are Bishops of a Diocese, but I’m pretty sure Burke isn’t my Bishop. I’m not an expert in Canon Law, I had it for a semester at university, but this part of your video was not very well thought out or researched. I’m just a Catholic (always was and always will be) and I think the whole rad-trad vs popesplainer discussion is stupid, because it’s not well meaning anymore (I’m more pints with aquinas than taylor marshal or michael lofton), but I think you should be careful to not venture too deep into these internal wars. I love your content, your philosophical stuff is very well thought out, it would be a shame if we’d talk more about church politics than Jesus Christ or the beauty of Christian philosophy.
John XXII was speaking as a private theologian in that istance, so the case isn't analogous because pope francis magisterium - not only his private persona - is constantly criticized (including by cardinal Burke). And pope Honorious wasn't really an heretic, since latin christians always denied that but even if he was, he can be judged only by a successor pontiff as the 8th ecumenical council clearlly states. Therefore none can judge pope francis if not the pope himself or his future successor.
You know Brian..for what it is worth I will never understood why anyone would respect or obey any Leader that is not upholding Church teaching that deviates from the example of Jesus Christ. Anyone who departs from HIS example should be ignored as a leader of anyone.
Just because a leader isn't following Church teaching doesn't mean that WE should stop following Church teaching and Church teaching says, we cannot ignore the instructions of our rightful leaders.
What is a rightful leader Brian??? Jesus says in Matt 20 25-28..25 Jesus called them over and said, “You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and those in high positions act as tyrants over them. 26 It must not be like that among you. On the contrary, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, 27 and whoever wants to be first among you must be your slave; 28 just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.”
Those who defend this pope don't care about Jesus, for them what the pope says is more important. This pope has been literally saying that the Word of God was not suitable for this generation, the Teachings of the Church needed to be changed consequently, yet we did not see those Catholics who today condemn Cdl Burke, condemning this pope for his public rebellion against God. And now they are giving Cdl Burke lessons on how to criticise or correct his superior. This is sickening!
If a Pope forces us to either submit to the Deposit of Faith or submit to the Supreme Pontiff in opposition to the Deposit of Faith, then my choice is clear. Not anyones faults (except the Papacy) that the lay faithful are being forced to make that decision.
So, I always though each future pope was more restricted than the last as things are defined. Now, it seems that eaxh Pontificate is rendered mute by the next. So the words/teaching of all the popes can be simply erased by the bewest pope, almost like a president. How can one pope say the ancient mass can never be abrogated, and the next says," sorry, it is"? Is modernism still a heresy, or can that be changed too? As a Byzantine, I still have my ancient Liturgy, but my heart hurts for the latins. Im not sure if my grandparents came back today they would recognize the modern church as catholic
The Apostle Paul had a sharp conflict with Barnabas over Mark. And it was over Marks actions. Paul sharply brought to task Peter over his actions over gentiles. The problem with some decisions of the church is there is some that are in opposite teachings of what Jesus himself taught. And now we see that again through his support of the German synod. I think, in my opinion, the vatican has lost touch with the teachings of Jesus.
As a non-Catholic, conservative Christian, I'm finding the current scandals surrounding Pope Francis interesting. Not to mention what the (hopefully) wonderful Javier Milei has said about him.
@@joyhenry-dp8nd There's a lot of baggage that goes along with that, though, isn't there? All the Mary stuff, Papal infallibility etc. Don't get me wrong; I have a lot of respect for the Roman Catholic Church & faith, but... 🤷♂️
It is a lot of baggage it took me two years to work through my thoughts and feelings on the Catholic Church before I was ready to convert. Be faithful to God and he will lead your path. If you decide to convert we will celebrate when ever that is.
I’m a big fan of Cardinal Burke and I would further say politics have no place in the church. What we are watching unfold is the consequences of a pope who is on a political agenda. We really do need to pray for all involved and mostly the Catholic Church. God will use this to better the church but things may get messy before that happens. Ecclesiastes 7: Wisdom: Better to accompany the sorrowful over the prideful…. Better to be criticized by a wise person than to be praised by a fool. This applies to myself as well. I aim to put myself around the wise and not be dubiously praised by individuals that are not seeking the ultimate goal: heaven.
The Pope is the servant of the Church - explicitly. The Pope is the servant of the Church. What does that suggest about everyone else's role? The Pope at the very possible least, *has* to listen to the rest of the Church.
Sounds good on the surface, but what do you really mean when you say, "and those speaking with Christ on his lips.? Which members of the Church does that exclude?@@UncleKlausSchwab
I remember, in the 1980s and 1990s, when those defending Saint John Paul II said you can't question the Pope, After all, "Roma locuta est, causa finita est." Many of those now openly challenge the Pope. Maybe they should get a little more consistent in their arguments,
Those who claim Pope Francis teaches heresy and error, are themselves ignorant of Catholic teaching and Canon Law and Holy Scripture!! As lies were told of Jesus Christ at His trial, so too even now of Pope Francis by modern day elders! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink
@the_bold_taddy_quinn1143 If i am spreading errors, then the Holy Scripture are in error, as too Catholic teaching and Canon Law! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink
They actually claim that it is a case of heresy that the cardinal was accusing him of. I don’t take it that way. I think he was saying that that’s what it sounds like or that’s how we can be portrayed and even if he did, I’m sure it was in Charity one TH-camr that comes to mind actually seems to be very happy when Cardinals or priests are removed. That being said, I don’t know if it’s just lack of confidence or maybe too much confidence just from studying on the surface or some other issues that might be happening.. even if his judgments were correct on the bishops or priests, we are supposed to be praying for them if they’re removed and are of error and wishing them to come back, we need all the priests bishops and cardinals that we have plus some. I actually love cardinal Burke and I disagree with a particular TH-camrs way of handling this. but I am also getting sick of the people that are right in their interpretations, but gloat we are supposed to approach everything with a sense of humility, and when I first came to the church and saw all of this me coming back after a very long time I would say almost 20 years it does break my heart. I thank you for your work crying because you always seem to put a smile. on my face because I know that you really love what you do and I believe you have a great love for the church and her members as well. Thank you.. no more TH-cam bickering no more speaking against priests and Cardinals. It just seems like a whole bunch of backbiting and as far as the problems in the church we do need to know what is going on, but it should never be so much that it discourages us sometimes people should just concentrate on apologetics, because that’s what their channels used to be about and this goes for both sides of the aisle.
The pope is not the head of the church. Christ is the head of the church. Christ may have appointed leaders within the church, he even may have appointed Peter to lead the church, just as he appointed kings in the Old Testament. But those leaders are not infallible. I don’t think Catholic doctrine even asserts that popes are infallible, except in very limited circumstances. I am an Anglican, so I could be wrong about that. I think it is very dangerous to say that any human person is above correction. I also think it is a kind of magical thinking to believe that a particular leader cannot make bad doctrinal decisions. The promise of God was that the church would prevail, but that does not mean that no errors would be made along the way.
I think people are conflating "infallibility" with "impeccabilty". Only God is impeccable (incapable of error). As most Catholics know, infallibility is extremely limited in Papal teachings. If a Pope's teachings run even *slightly* counter to the de Fide (Perennial Magisterial Teachings) beliefs, it cannot be considered de Fide, and certainly not infallible, therefore not worthy of belief. He must then reconsider the problematic wording and make the correction needed in order for his document, or Teaching, to be considered "infallible". In NO OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES is he considered infallible! He is, after all, just a human! The Holy Spirit only protects THE CHURCH from a Pope trying to *FORMALLY* teach error by changing dogma or doctrine. Sometimes, that protection comes in the form of swift death at God's hands. The Holy Spirit does NOT "guide" the Pope! That is not a de Fide teaching...ever!
So you approve of correcting the Pope, but not a layman? Brian is a humble guy, I believe he would welcome his thoughts being picked apart. Iron sharpening iron.
@fragwagon I don’t make my living off a TH-cam channel, along with merchandise and/or A Go Fund Me Page just because I have a degree in Theology and claim to be The Expert on all matters pertaining to The Magisterium or The Catholic Church. I have faith and go to Mass for The Eucharist not because of Priests, Bishops, and The Pope. God bless
@@brigidmartin I wouldn't so quickly dismiss Priests, Bishops, and the Pope. After all, if Jesus didn’t give us them, we wouldn't have access to the Eucharist. It seems disingenuous to put a divider between them. We are a family.
Yet… Did not address the 2nd form of punishment correction (both unjust, unexplained and non-canonical) by Pope Francis on Cardinal Burke!?!?? As the title suggests… only concerned about Cardinal up to Pope. However, that is the supposed reason for the reactionary punishment by the Pope upon the Cardinal… for criticizing the Pope.
I know this might be controversial to answer but I genuinely would like to know. Does a husband have that kind of authority to correct and punish his wife? Or would it only be the parents who have that kind of authority over the children?
I think, Brian, that an example would help here when you say "popes have been corrected". Short answer - there is no example in Church history of a pope's formal teaching (not personal opinions or off the cuff stuff) being corrected.
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For anyone who sees this, could you pray for Bridget from Ireland. She's my mother. She's a beautiful God loving woman who has been battling cancer for the past few years.
My wife got it too. We pray and try to deal with cancer naturally.
We left hospitals to avoid poisoning ( chemo) and cuting off the parts of my wife's body- crippling her permanently without any assurance anyway . We are in peace and left all in the hands of our Lord. After all we all must get home. Godbless you and your mom.
May God heal Bridget according to his will, and may she glorify him!
Ave Maria, Glory Be
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May God lift her up. ⬆️
If St. Paul can correct St. Peter "to his face", a Cardinal (or anyone else for that manner) should be able to correct an erring Pope.
Amen, brother.
One important distinction to make is that Pope St. Peter wasn't authentically and authoritatively excerising his office as Shepard of the Universal Church when he was corrected by St. Paul. Instead, I believe he was 'caving in' to Jewish customs in his local diocese.
Nowadays, we see a lot of "St. Pauls" trying to correct "St. Peter" in official, magisterial documents like Amoris Laetitia, which I believe is a big no-no.
If St. Peter, or any Pope, formally attempted to teach error and compel the Universal Church to submit to such teaching, the Holy Spirit would not allow it. Our Lord prayed for St. Peter that his "faith may not fail" . Attempting to formally define error would quality as a "failed faith".
Spot on!!!
Exactly
Exactly what came to my mind too. I think the idea of papal infallibility should also be corrected.
@@jmj.thomas Yet there is error in Amoris laetitia which means that Francis wasn't guided by the Holy Ghost.
How much longer are we expected to keep pretending any of this is ok?
That is a great question-- what a mess our church fathers have created! And they have been at it for over 50 years now.
@@bryincda the folks older than me have been watching this slow motion car crash for decades. Stinks. Oh well. We get what we collectively deserve. We will make it through. Glory is on the other side of this fiasco. God bless.
@@bottomtext7700 You are absolutely correct!
As long as majority of Catholics are happy with a pope who speak to them what they want to hear, to justify their sinful lifestyle. Have you notice that Catholics easily trample under their feet the Teachings of Jesus but dare touch The Pope...it's pathetic.
I’ve been watching since my first communion in 1965. The ND sisters in LA traded their habits for jeans and sweatshirts. My mom pulled us all out of the parochial schools.
if the pope can be wrong, then yes a cardinal can correct the pope.
Depends on what constitutes "wrong".
@@littlerock5256 contrary to the faith, scripture, instruction of the Magisterium?
@@littlerock5256 There's no version of "wrong" that provides immunity from correction. Wrong is just wrong. Jesus Christ is quite literally the ONLY human being who has ever walked this earth that could never be credibly "corrected" owing to his being literal, living, breathing, walking, talking TRUTH in the flesh. Even Our Blessed Lady, sinless though she was, may have possibly been "wrong" on some issue or other, beyond her capacity, so could theoretically have been corrected on it. Some of you seem to think the Pope is a reincarnation of Christ rather than his chief servant, who occupies the office, not of Christ, but of Peter! It's beyond embarrassing! PS: The title, (which, by the way, is shared by all Bishops) is "Vicar" of Christ, not Avatar of Christ ...
@@AuthenticityVeritas A pope can be corrected for personal failing such as St. Paul did with St. Peter. But a pope cannot be corrected by saying that someone he canonized isn't really a saint or say his teaching on faith and morals in an encyclical or an ecumenical council is incorrect.
It is Church teaching that Christ and His Vicar constitute one head.
Francis has rejected this title.
@@rosezingleman5007 A pope is protected by the promises of Our Lord and perennial Church teaching from every teaching "contrary to the faith, scripture, instruction of the Magisterium."
Without answering St Athanasius stood alone against the Aryan heresy.
Of course!!! Because there was no such thing as a vatican I papacy
What heresy is Burke standing against?
Heresy of hyperpapalism and modernism
@@johnisaacfelipe6357 Can you point me to Church teaching that defines this?
This was explained by Pope St. Pius X. However, Burke is with them.
Did you know Burke accepted a man posing as a woman to start an order of nuns?
@@littlerock5256 the same transgender nun that said he wanted to become a nun because of Pope Francis' opening it up to her?
I met Cardinal Burke Briefly in Ireland around 5 years ago, I was on my Bike and decided to see what all the fuss was about outside a local church I was all in my cycling gear and it was a cold evening I was coming home from work , he had just said a confirmation mass it was in the evening time so I decided to make my way in the side entrance, the church was empty he was walking back up the aisle in his priestly Garments and his crozier in hand with two young priests following him in respect, he seemed in deep reverence to the Eucharist in the tabernacle I welcomed him to Ireland and put out my hand he gently squeezed it and said thank you ,he passed on up to the altar genuflected and bowed his head , it was a surreal experience .
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St. Catherine of Siena, simple girl from poor family convinced the Pope to return the papacy to Rome from Avignon and encouraged him to ignore the advice of his cardinals.
So back in the “oppressive Dark Ages” the Pope would listen to a simple young girl reminding him of what’s right thing to do.
Yes! She called him "My beloved father" and told him that she loved him. Even when he frustrated her with his hesitations.
Cheers for the video Brian. God bless
All I can think of is "The Emperor has no Clothes."
The guy served the church his whole life.. then gets his ability to live taken away, for clinging to actual doctrine and getting on the bad side of the Pope who has apparently let so many actual crimes slide from other people. The only thing held sacred now is that the Pope is infalible and unquestionable. Very depressing.
Is it sacred if it's used as a weapon?
@Walrus. You can serve Jesus all your life and then fall badly, and this does not go without consequences. He can criticise, but the Christian . + way is to do so privately.
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It’s this way of weak knee thinking that has gotten The Church we’re it is today - just an NGO of Globo Homo.
So pathetic
@@wendyfield7708 You didn't watch the video then
@@wendyfield7708 The Christian way huh? What about your Christian pope started behaving as a Christian? I am disgusted by such level of idolatry. Do you even know what Cdl Burke said?
Jesus calmed the sea in very stormy waters. As we experience the current tumult of Holy Mother Church, trust in and stay close to Jesus. We’re being severely tested now, but our Lord will bring us safely home. God bless.
Really appreciate a balanced and fully informed perspective ... Thank you and God reward you Brian
I love Brian. And I, unfortunately, wouldnt call this "fully informed". By a long shot. THIS is fully informed:
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Anyone can correct the pope (or anyone else, for that matter). One only needs to speak the truth. Whether or not that truth is received, is another matter--and that is the responsibility of the one who is corrected.
Cardinal Burke will be fine. He has no need to worry about his welfare.
After a pope canonized a saint, can he be corrected that the person isn't a saint?
@@littlerock5256Only God knows if the canonized are properly canonized. You do not have to be canonized to be a saint. I have my doubts about anything this faux pope does. He does not appear to be Christian much less a Catholic. Bergoglio fruits are absolutely hypocritical to say the least. He has openly worshipped idols could go on and on
@@edwinkubena9944 Canonizations are infallible.
A "faux pope" is no pope. So we have sede vacante or sede impedita. I think it is the latter.
@@edwinkubena9944 Pope Francis is probably not the greatest pope we have had in the last two thousand years or so. But to be clear, he is absolutely not the worst, either. In fact, compared to most of the "bad ones," Pope Francis is, even by the standards of his most uncharitable critics, not even in the same league as someone like, say, Sergius III.
I would caution anyone against labeling Pope Francis a false pope for two reasons:
First, we have neither the competence nor the authority to make that determination. We were not privy to the goings-on of the last conclave. We do not know if the conditions for determining whether a pope is false have been met. In fact, we do not even know what those conditions are.
Second, the temptation to reject his authority surely comes from the evil one. The many "traditionalist" groups that exist today are a testament to the dangers of appointing oneself as an arbiter of papal legitimacy. Many schismatics reject the papacies of John XXIII, and as a natural consequence of that, must also reject the papacies of Paul VI, JP1, JP2, BXVI, and Francis. Do you want to start down that route? An antipope is a pretender who has assumed that office illegitimately. It is NOT a pope who believes ridiculous things, nor is it a pope who lives an immoral lifestyle. It is NOT a pope who disregards the welfare of his flock. Assuming the office of the papacy falsely is completely different from not liking the disciplinary, political, and theological views that a particular pope seems to embrace.
@@littlerock5256 First, the one who corrects must speak the truth. Canonizations are, evidently, infallible. Consequently, one cannot correct that which is already true.
May God continue to Bless you for your focus on truth!
I want to give public thanks & praise to God for healing Cardinal Burke when he was was very sick with the FAUCI bug. We all said rosaries for him & God gave us a miracle. PRAISE BE TO GOD. And I love Cardinal Burke. ❤
When the Pope pulls a “Fauci” and claims that to criticize his words or actions is to criticize “the Church” or “the Science”… then we are in trouble!
Even more trouble when that authority is abused unjustly to punish those who offer correction in brotherly love in order to support, heal and grow genuine love (willing good of the other, not unlimited tolerance of others) in the Church and her teachings towards holiness and salvation. ❤ ✝️ Those who suffer for the Church and Christ’s sake will have their eternal reward!
The pope should conduct himself in such manner that he does not require criticism.
I would think Paul correcting Peter and, though it isn’t quite the same thing, Nathan admonishing David would show that the Pope can be corrected.
David isn't analogous to the Pope, so it still wouldn't work.
@@benecliptus You are right that David isn't analogous to the Pope, but to Christ himself. It is David's SERVANT who held David's keys that is analogous to Peter, and so to the Pope. How vapid minded to think the servant above the King, lol. David can be corrected but not the holder of his keys... in some people's insane thinking. Thankfully, St. Peter didn't share these narcissistic delusions.
@@AuthenticityVeritas the analogy still doesn't work. Nathan was a prophet and therefore in a unique position of authority. He was an advisor to David, not a servant. The only person Nathan served was God.
@@benecliptusI believe Catholic papal teaching makes the analogy. It may pick & choose what is analogous. But David is a type of Christ, not a type of the pope.
@@traceyedson9652 I didn't say otherwise.
I see Lofton did a 12 week rebuttal.
Cardinal Burke is not without portfolio in Rome. He is a member of two dicasteries, and of the Apostolic Signatura, the high court of the Church’s legal system. Pope Francis reappointed him to that in 2017.
A peasant could correct the Pope. Come on now...
Thank you, Brian. This is very helpful!
The likes of Michael Lofton (or others acting like ultra-montanists) are too hypocritical, lost in their own misinspired thoughts. At the same time, they often consider themselves "above" other theologians (who have 10 times their experience), which makes it worst. They need to grow in wisdom, simply put.
''Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look long into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you.'' -Nietzsche
Well, he killed himself
How is it NOT hypocritical, for a high ranking cleric to promote “listening and tolerance” one minute, and then next minute betray his preaching, by being a tone deaf bully?
Love the sinner not the sin. I will not tolerate sin.
@@maryrankin9869 Amen
I totally agree with Brian! God bless you. 🙏
Martian Luther was a Catholic monk and a Dr. of Theology who tried to correct false teaching by The Pope and was Anathematized.
Anybody, surely, can correct the pope if the pope is mistaken. If I were pope, I would appreciate it.
“The teachers of religious law and the Pharisees are the official interpreters of the law of Moses. So practice and obey whatever they tell you, but don’t follow their example. For they don’t practice what they teach.”
Matthew 23:2-3
We're not talking about explaining to Francis that "the lady's name was Martha, not Mary" or things of that nature. We're talking about theological instruction in an official capacity.
If we know the Truth, we have our duties and responsibilities to defend the Holy Catholic Church, the people of God, and must speak the Truth of the Gospel, and the Tradional teachings of the Holy Catholic Church that they may know the Way to eternal life in heaven.
Yes, which is what the pope has been doing. The Media has been twisting his words for the last ten years. When will it stop?
I'm appreciative of this talk...Didn't know much on this
A cardinal can certainly comment on a Pope and even claim to be "correcting" him (though whether it counts as a correction is entirely another matter - sometimes it is personalities, and not a lack of doctrinal orthodoxy on either's part.) But the Pope is not obligated to welcome those criticisms, nor is he obligated to richly reward his critics with the life of Riley in Vatican City. Both things are true.
Yes! Thank you for charitably acknowledging the hypocrisy of some (that can be judgmental and accusatory and seemingly acting like bullies) 😢.
What about the malice of this Pope toward Fr. Frank Pavone, Bishop Strickland. Cardinal Burke, Cardinal Sirah and Archbishop Vigano.
Everyone who personally knows the man Cdl Raymond Burke, say unanimously that he’s the kindest and most respectful man, humble even though he is very intelligent and knowledgeable in matters of the Faith and canon law. And yet we have so many popesplainers jumping in to applaud their hero pope’s actions and policies even when for a fraction of such stuff they would have judged and criticized Benedict XVI or even JPII! It’s indeed ironic but such are the times that Our Blessed Mother has spoken of and warned us even. Akita, Garabandal and probably more. So here we are. Now it’s simply upto each one of us to be right before God personally. All the rest, is not our business. He’s in charge and will bring greater Good from all our evil. He will guard and watch over his faithful shepherds like Burke too. I’m confident and I hope we can persevere no matter what more scandal we will see in our lifetime.🙏🏼
The Apostle Paul openly criticised the Apostle Peter for not eating with the Gentiles. Then Peter turned from his sin. No one (other then God obviously) should be put on a pedestal where we think he cannot be wrong.
Yes! Cardinals and bishops CAN fraternally correct the pope. However, the proper format for this is IN PERSON, NOT on Twitter!
If the pope is publicly wrong ,corrections or comments could be on public.
12:09 literally laughed out loud. that point is actually amazing. thanks Brian!
A pope ought to invite correction. In humility, all of us who have roles as leaders in Catholicism (Catholic elementary school principal) we need to always be open to loving correction to ensure we stay true to tradition and truth. Anything that suggests otherwise should be held as highly suspicious.
Thank you for supporting Cardinal Burke. We are in very trying times.
What? Are you talking about Burks? Cardinal Burke and archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò accepted bride? Burke accepted to fill his coffer to live in luxury however Carlo Maria Viganò gave it away!
Yes. The only Person that we can not correct is God which this Pope is trying to do.
Admonish is not to be always gentle if stubborness and heresy is involved. Prople are parsnoied with 'gentleness' word . Like with 'judment' word.
Our Lady, too, who never sinned. But we don't live with her, so yeah: By definition, anyone capable of sin and error can be corrected and all popes, starting with the one named Rock, himself, are sinners capable of error. I can't believe popesplainers have riled and trolled everyone into thinking this is a legitimate question! It's unreal.
Francis is a great compass for Catholics: whatever his position is on a subject, do the exact opposite and you’ll be a good Christian.
Francis abusing his religious position to serve his political views made me realize that religion shouldn’t be this hierarchical and is better off decentralized.
My family is 1/2 Italian and 1/2 Spanish and therefore very Catholic. I’ve made relatives mad in the last decade for criticizing the man (and not the position) but today even my 96 years old nonna admits he is a force of evil.
Really? For instance this? "In today’s world, voices are being raised which we cannot ignore and which implore our Churches to live deeply our identity as disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ. The first of these voices is that of the poor. In the world, there are too many women and men who suffer from severe malnutrition, growing unemployment, the rising numbers of unemployed youth, and from increasing social exclusion. These can give rise to criminal activity and even the recruitment of terrorists. We cannot remain indifferent before the cries of our brothers and sisters. "
Do the opposite of that, and you may find your everlasting destiny may not be the place you presume it to be.
It is these very questions that led me from Catholicism to Orthodoxy .
Every child of God - meaning every person being part of His people - not only can, but also has the duty to stand up in the face of error regarding the Revelation of God - no matter who it utters.
If i were the cardinal, i would also correct the pope if he was not doing the right thing- if the pope changed the teachings of Jesus Christ.
But if the pope is NOT changing any of the immutable Dogmas of the Church? What if the Cardinal is only raising unjustified fears? Cardinal Burke has been so focused on the purely-advisory Synod on Synodality, that he has not given the pope any support in combating the German Synodal Way -- which has plans to tear apart the unity of the Church.
Cardinal Burke is such a talented man. I wish he would use those talents to help the pope calm the voices of disunity on the Right and on the Left.
We should remember that the approved apparitions of LaSallette and Fatima and Akita all foretold of apostasy at the highest level of the Church. Blessed Fulton Sheen (he is a blessed, right?) said the laity would save the church. “The remnant” of the faithful *is a thing* so maybe we need to ask ourselves is this that time?
Per the promises of Our Lord Jesus Christ to Peter and perennial Catholic teaching, this is impossible for a pope to do.
Dear@@littlerock5256, precisely!!
Thumbs up!
@@susand3668 So here's the million dollar question: how do we account for that fact that Francis has contradicted previous Church teaching?
Formal hæresy isn't contingent upon trial and judgement by the Church. Formal hæresy could be private and interior. Formal hæresy is more than material hæresy in that in involves subjective guilt in addition to objectively hæretical matter.
Nor is manifest hæresy necessarily contingent upon an ecclesial judgement. If a priest came out one day denying the doctrines of justification, eternal punishment, the Immaculate Conception, the uniqueness and unity of the Church, changed the doctrine on capital punishment, referred to transvestites by their preferred pronouns, promoted homosexual civil unions, disrespected the Traditional Roman rite and its associated theology, claimed that atheists would or could go to heaven, participated in non-Catholic worship, claimed that God wills plurality of religions, and that proselytism is sinful, or espoused theistic communism; the hæresy would be manifest.
“There needs to be some way to reconcile these competing ideas.” There is, it’s called the magisterium.
The Magistrerium can err, God's Word cannot.
You are missing the point that its is the contradictory writings produced by the fallible Magisterium that need to be reconciled. The magisterium created the problem.
Yes he can and they should instead of cowering in fear. Man up!
Becareful Michael Lofton seems to target Brian Now but Michael Lofton avoids Terry Barber , Timothy Gordon , City of light for dialogue or debates…… 🤷🏻♂️ he’s targeting brian though…
Keep it up brian ❤️
I STAND WITH CARDINAL BURKE ! Thank you for this TH-cam!
The Dubbia is a formal procedure which isn't taken lightly. It was submitted by more than one Cardinal. Pope Francis did not respond in a timely manner.
He did not respond at all.
Dear@@rosezingleman5007, actually, he did send a response to the cardinals. When they published their second set of Dubia, they quoted from it.
And he and Cardinal Fernandez published the full answers to the 5 questions, which removed all need for the second set of questions, because he had answered them fully.
But there are news outlets that don't seem to feel it is important to publish what the pope say.
Didn't St. Catherine of Siena "correct" a pope living in Avignon?
I have been posting the sane thing. And St Catherine is now a Doctor of the Church. I don't know why there are people who think you can't question the Pope.
Of course YES, that's why they are Cardinals, to assist, help the Popes. And in case they are wrong, make the corrections, that is why the Cardinalisian DUBIAS exist. And this is how the Apostle Paul corrected our First Pope Saint Peter.
Here’s my correcting you: we have no obligation as subjects to give our bishop our money. The precept is that we support the Church, not any particular bishop.
If a bishop is urging the use of church collections for something that a person thinks is wrong and he tries, in charity to point this out, by withholding funds from that collection they are not using a form of justice against the bishop but rather exercising prudential judgment.
All disciplines are fallible and can be wrong
Lofton clearly stated that Burke in making corrections to the pope thought Burke was not uncharitable. But when you get clarification, you have to acknowledge and publicly correct the wrong that you put out.
Pope Benedict XVI -
MASS OF POSSESSION OF THE CHAIR OF THE BISHOP OF ROME
Saturday, 7 May 2005
“The Pope is not an absolute monarch whose thoughts and desires are law. On the contrary: the Pope's ministry is a guarantee of obedience to Christ and to his Word. He must not proclaim his own ideas, but rather constantly bind himself and the Church to obedience to God's Word, in the face of every attempt to adapt it or water it down, and every form of opportunism.”
Pope John XXII had not spoken in ex-cathedra language, hasn't directed his personal opinion to the whole Church. This is not the same ballpark. The issue has not yet been settled, because whole ordeal happened before apostolic constitution Benedictus Deus
On the Beatific Vision of God has been directed to the whole Church (1334) by Pope Benedict XII.
This is completely moot point.
From the other hand, Catholic dogma with regard to the General Judgment: the Resurrection of the Body has been already settled, and frankly explained in CREDO... but no-one was correcting Benedict XVI while he published his heretical statements regarding this:
Benedict XVI, Introduction to Christianity, 2004, p. 349: “It now becomes clear that the real heart of faith in the resurrection does not consist at all in the idea of the restoration of bodies, to which we have reduced it in our thinking; such is the case even though this is the pictorial image used throughout the Bible.”
Benedict XVI, Introduction to Christianity, 2004, pp. 357-358: “To recapitulate, Paul teaches, not the resurrection of physical bodies, but the resurrection of persons…”
Not in charity, nor in justice, Benedict XVI hasn't retracted this, among many other manifested heresies before his death. He taught them, he manifested them, and lived them. He was never a Pope.
I had a private lunch with Cardinal Burke. My opinion, and only my priestly impression, is that he's a living saint.
This pope is uncorrectable. At least for now. He will soon learn just what severe correction is.
REPENT FRANCIS YOU ARE IN OPPOSITION TO CHRIST.
Catholics need to stand up to the heresies of this Pope.
Careful, Brian. Lofton might respond with a 3 hour fanfiction speculation video for exactly why Burke deserved everything he got with facts and logic...
Except he has more theological background than Brian.
@@anthonyhulse1248 Exactly
Hes doing it right now 😂 hurry, you might catch the last few hours.
@@anthonyhulse1248tackle the ball, not the man
The example of Pope John XXII does not work because his belief on the Beatific Vision was just that of a private individual. When he spoke of his erring belief in public it was only to local congregations via sermons as the Bishop of Rome, not in his magisterial capacity as the Universal Pontiff. He made it expressly clear in his writings that it was his private belief and that in no way was he trying to impose it on the faithful. But with regards to the issue of heresy, it’s ultimately a moot point because the correct understanding of the Beatific Vision was not even declared a dogma until after he died.
Preaching as the bishop of Rome is considered magisterial.
"Now our adversaries respond that the Church ought to hear him (Roman Pontiff) so long as he teaches correctly for God must be heard more than men. On the other hand, who will judge whether the Pope has taught rightly or not? For it is not for the sheep to judge whether the shepherd wanders off, not even and especially in those matters which are truly doubtful. Nor do Christian sheep have any greater judge or teacher to whom they might have recourse. As we showed above, from the whole Church, one can appeal to the pope; yet from him no one is able to appeal; therefore necessarily the whole Church will err; if the Pontiff would err." - St. Robert Bellarmine.
Timestamp 4:52 Bishop of Rome taught *Soul Sleep* during mass for years
Here is the most important basic to return to-the eucharistic Royal Priesthood, what the entire clerical class, the truly good (Bishop Barron an archetype) and the truly bad (Fr. James Martin the archetype, even though he is ignorant that he was awarded by Satan the privilege of leading the charge to destroy the lives and souls of Catholic children) are both adamant is preventing the restoration of the Royal Priesthood, what only the saintly Pope Francis is trying to restore, with the clerical class being blindly adamant in preventing:
Pope Francis’ 1st priority, as it was for his immediate predecessors, the saintly Pope Benedict XVI and St. John Paul the Great, is to sustain what little Unity there is, and build towards a greater Unity WITHOUT generating more disunity, a seemingly impossible task (and please give Pope Francis credit for finding a way to deal with the footloose and fancy free, unknown to themselves, corrupt bishops, cardinals and pastors in Germany on the front lines advancing Satan’s Sexual Liberation Movement).
It became clear Benedict XVI was totally supportive of Francis’ “confusing” strategy to go up against Satan’s Army of Bishops and Cardinals dedicated, in not so subtle ways, to being Satan’s Primary Warriors in his Sexual Liberation Assault against the Church, Satan’s most successful and most widespread assault in all of Church history (made abundantly clear in most every bishop, cardinal and pastor choosing to take Satan’s side in trying to destroy the Holy Spirit’s Sword of Justice he gifted to St. Paul VI to use, his Humane Vitae, what most bishops, cardinals and parish pastors still reject, made clear in their refusal to use it and its miraculous elaboration in John Paul the Great’s saintly explication on what human sexuality means in God’s Plan for us, Theology of the Body.
Now reflect on the fact that STILL over 99% of bishops, cardinals and parish pastors refuse to educate us laity on ANY detail of Satan’s relentless and most successful war ever waged against the Church. And the clerical class, as a whole, are still adamant in refusing to arm us faithful to war against this grand assault through the restoration of Assembly Life, Mystagogy & Spiritual Direction (Royal Priesthood-Christian Brotherhood-Synod on Synodality), what is absolutely required for us laity to prepare to go out, and why there has been no initiative by any cleric (bishop, cardinal, pastor) to prepare us laity to Go Out as Jesus insisted.
And because the clerical class as a whole is close to totally blind to this, regardless how much rhetoric rolls off their tongues in advancing lay formation and new evangelization, they, in fact, are relentlessly engaged in stifling lay formation and the new evangelization, deciding instead to suffocate our lay minds and disable us from action as true evangelizers, refusing to allow us laity to have any voice at all after they destroyed the Royal Priesthood (a true Christian Brotherhood that would allow Laity back into the fold of discernment), the ONLY way Jesus arranged for us laity to have a voice-NOT through a democratic sharing of power, of governance, for that governance is restricted by God to clerics ordained and gifted by the Holy Spirit at ordination to do so, what can only be ordained priests. But there is no Assembly Life (the ONLY phenomenon that allows laity to truly have a voice, as it was in the beginning, utterly destroyed by the clerical class centuries ago. And that speaks all of it).
Here are the synonymous titles: Christian Brotherhood, Royal Priesthood and Synod on Synodality, the ONLY path to the restoration of a true Unity of the Body of Christ, laity and cleric alike. This IS Pope Francis’ singular mission resisted by the clerical class with a vengeance, and this resistance is the singular most powerful act in supporting Satan’s radically divisive way of holding the clerical class captive to politically manufactured narratives of meaning, a radical diminishment of a Way offered to us in every second by the Holy Spirit who is no longer listened to by pastors governing our Archdioceses, all of them held in abeyance just like us faithful laity are held in abeyance by those clerics, having nowhere to go to prepare to Go Out as Jesus insisted, where our personhoods begin to appear, what is literally not possible until the clerical class decides to restore to us laity what they had taken from us many centuries ago, what God had gifted to ALL his children, cleric and lay alike-the Royal Priesthood made up of Assembly Life, Mystagogy and Spiritual Direction, the absolute-complete gift from God that makes possible lay formation and a new evangelization. Absent the Royal Priesthood, we continue to languish. We can’t even remember when we were told to bury our talents in the back yard. That because it most often begins at age 2 or 3. That’s the precise result of having cancelled God’s Great Gift to evangelize every Catholic’s heart.
To be absolutely clear, all us Christians and everyone else in the World have been held captive to Satan's Orchestration of this World. And how successful he has been was made perfectly clear when the entirety of Vatican officials blindly blessed the mission of Fr. James Martin to go out into this World orchestrated by Satan and destroy the souls of Catholic children, him unknowingly the main front-line Catholic warrior in Satan's Army. That he has been blessed in this mission reveals what the end result has been with the clerical cancellation-emasculation of the Royal Priesthood so many centuries ago. It's all coming out in the wash today, and that laundry is dripping filthy grease.
So it is in this sermon from Bishop Barron. Although speaking a fundamental truth of the faith life, in that illumination he also creates absolute cover for Fr. Martina and the entire clerical class complicit in killing off the Royal Priesthood and keeping it buried in its lonely grave, basically implying unintentionally that us clerically abandoned laity don't need any clerical guidance. Forget all that and just open yourselves to God's grace, a Protestant comfort.
The word "addiction" is a word Satan used to replace the word "obsession", an obsession inside a willfulness in opposing God’s will (what we generally refuse to look at, the most unconfessed sin). This use of the word “addiction” in dismissing willful obsession has become a way of turning sinners into helpless victims, what the non-Christian Marcus Aurelius found to be nauseatingly self-defeating, and him not being listened to is what moved Camus to write his Myth of Sisyphus).
I became a street kid at age 8, and at a certain point, at age 11, I consciously chose to reject God’s assistance, speaking that rebellion directly into God’s darkness in the middle of a dark wooded area at the center of an ice pond (no doubt a door into Dante’s Hell) where we were alone together, and he fully honored my totally willful rebellion (I was no victim-it was pure choice), both of us in his all-encompassing Love understanding. with perfect clarity, the fact that it was HE who gave me that radical gift of freedom to choose at the deepest unimaginable level!
That great mystery of freedom speaks perfectly, absent words, the great Mystery of Evil even Christian psychologists unintentionally (in real ignorance) prevent us from discerning. And I eventually came to learn with theological precision from Hans Urs von Balthasar how radical a gift of freedom God did grant to us. And through many years of fully committing to indulging 24/7 an anesthetizing of my existential pains and sufferings, including a 3-year obsession with injecting China White heroin, I refused all 12-step programs as an alternative to doing prison time, always abiding in my rebellious freedom-that rebellion against God as the only way of being totally free in secular terms, what God gifted to me!
But God chose to deliver me into his missionary ways at age 38, after my daughter was born. You see, I knew my fully-aware rebellion against God so thoroughly, I knew simultaneously with absolute existential authority-certainty that I would destroy my daughter inside my rebellion, dragging her down into Satan’s Ice-Chamber for eternity with me, what I had accepted for myself. And that’s when I fell to my knees and begged God to raise my daughter for me through my submission to the ways the Holy Spirit would lovingly reveal to me in every second through his absolute love for my daughter and me. No 12-step program gifts this ultimate Freedom that is accessed ONLY by freely willing to enter into Christ’s Flesh on his Cross and abide there as the saints have done from the beginning.
The pope has failed us let’s call for his resignation. He is not worthy of the chair of Peter.
1) St. Thomas Aquinas specifically said that a person who is of lower rank is not permitted to publicly correct a prelate in a way that would cause scandal among the faithful. He is allowed to correct in private.
2) This still does not address criticizing the pope.
Because of the false obedience the church is falling in the pit. Bogolio needs correction he is a human being too
I am a life-long 76 year-old practicing Catholic layman and taught theology for 35 years (M. Rel. Ed). I personally am REALLY
getting sick & tired of hearing about Francis' daily antics and the hair-splitting that goes on regarding any criticism
of him. The pope has absolutely no direct effect on my daily life; I just go along with things as I always have done. We were
better off as Catholics when we went along practicing our Faith and the pope WAS NOT daily fodder for TH-cam addicts!!!
Pope Benedict XVI was a very calm and quiet papacy, mayhaps the church needs a more jolt to its system.
Correct. Get off youtube
What decent bishop/priest next? Let's watch. (Meanwhile: Martin's kind, abortionists e tutti quanti either remain in position or even promoted/allocated new ones).
I’m not going into the question if a Cardinal can correct the pope, I don’t necessarily have an enough informed opinion on this, since e.g. Pope Saint Paul II seems to say no, but I’ll leave that up to you and Lofton to discuss. Something I‘d like to comment on is your comparison with laypeople criticizing a Cardinal. Any cardinal is not the superior of all lay people. You should get a bit into the section of the CIC about cardinals, unless they are specifically authorized by the pope according to to Can 358, they have no superiority over any layperson. That might be different if they are Bishops of a Diocese, but I’m pretty sure Burke isn’t my Bishop. I’m not an expert in Canon Law, I had it for a semester at university, but this part of your video was not very well thought out or researched.
I’m just a Catholic (always was and always will be) and I think the whole rad-trad vs popesplainer discussion is stupid, because it’s not well meaning anymore (I’m more pints with aquinas than taylor marshal or michael lofton), but I think you should be careful to not venture too deep into these internal wars. I love your content, your philosophical stuff is very well thought out, it would be a shame if we’d talk more about church politics than Jesus Christ or the beauty of Christian philosophy.
John XXII was speaking as a private theologian in that istance, so the case isn't analogous because pope francis magisterium - not only his private persona - is constantly criticized (including by cardinal Burke). And pope Honorious wasn't really an heretic, since latin christians always denied that but even if he was, he can be judged only by a successor pontiff as the 8th ecumenical council clearlly states. Therefore none can judge pope francis if not the pope himself or his future successor.
It can’t be true that any member of the Church Militant is “above” correction since all correction is unto our deification, our salvation.
You know Brian..for what it is worth I will never understood why anyone would respect or obey any Leader that is not upholding Church teaching that deviates from the example of Jesus Christ. Anyone who departs from HIS example should be ignored as a leader of anyone.
Just because a leader isn't following Church teaching doesn't mean that WE should stop following Church teaching and Church teaching says, we cannot ignore the instructions of our rightful leaders.
@@BrianHoldsworth Doesn't it create a bit of a paradox when our "rightful" leaders instruct us clearly incorrectly?
What is a rightful leader Brian??? Jesus says in Matt 20 25-28..25 Jesus called them over and said, “You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and those in high positions act as tyrants over them. 26 It must not be like that among you. On the contrary, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, 27 and whoever wants to be first among you must be your slave; 28 just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.”
Those who defend this pope don't care about Jesus, for them what the pope says is more important. This pope has been literally saying that the Word of God was not suitable for this generation, the Teachings of the Church needed to be changed consequently, yet we did not see those Catholics who today condemn Cdl Burke, condemning this pope for his public rebellion against God. And now they are giving Cdl Burke lessons on how to criticise or correct his superior. This is sickening!
If a Pope forces us to either submit to the Deposit of Faith or submit to the Supreme Pontiff in opposition to the Deposit of Faith, then my choice is clear. Not anyones faults (except the Papacy) that the lay faithful are being forced to make that decision.
So, I always though each future pope was more restricted than the last as things are defined. Now, it seems that eaxh Pontificate is rendered mute by the next. So the words/teaching of all the popes can be simply erased by the bewest pope, almost like a president. How can one pope say the ancient mass can never be abrogated, and the next says," sorry, it is"?
Is modernism still a heresy, or can that be changed too?
As a Byzantine, I still have my ancient Liturgy, but my heart hurts for the latins.
Im not sure if my grandparents came back today they would recognize the modern church as catholic
Can Paul correct Peter?
The only way to humble greed is stop stop stop putting money in collection boxes towards the Vatican coffers. Should the Pope live in luxurious life
The Apostle Paul had a sharp conflict with Barnabas over Mark. And it was over Marks actions. Paul sharply brought to task Peter over his actions over gentiles. The problem with some decisions of the church is there is some that are in opposite teachings of what Jesus himself taught. And now we see that again through his support of the German synod. I think, in my opinion, the vatican has lost touch with the teachings of Jesus.
So you just don't consider the possibility that the actions of the Pope were loving and justified?
Was the slap he gave the Chinese woman loving?
@@UncleKlausSchwab don't be ridiculous.
Michael Lofton is punching the air right now
He's in the middle of a stream responding to Brian as we speak.
He's already into day 11 of his rebuttal.
If I’m not mistaken, Paul corrected Peter Who was according to our faith, the pope.
Short answer...no
As a non-Catholic, conservative Christian, I'm finding the current scandals surrounding Pope Francis interesting. Not to mention what the (hopefully) wonderful Javier Milei has said about him.
I used to be a Protestant conservative believer for a very long time. Come join the Church and received the full communion and graces from our Lord! 😉
@@joyhenry-dp8nd There's a lot of baggage that goes along with that, though, isn't there? All the Mary stuff, Papal infallibility etc. Don't get me wrong; I have a lot of respect for the Roman Catholic Church & faith, but... 🤷♂️
It is a lot of baggage it took me two years to work through my thoughts and feelings on the Catholic Church before I was ready to convert. Be faithful to God and he will lead your path. If you decide to convert we will celebrate when ever that is.
Francis is one of the many antipopes who have claimed to be Popes throughout the Church's history.
Can a cardinal tell people not to listen to what a pope says in an apostolic constitution?
I’m a big fan of Cardinal Burke and I would further say politics have no place in the church. What we are watching unfold is the consequences of a pope who is on a political agenda. We really do need to pray for all involved and mostly the Catholic Church. God will use this to better the church but things may get messy before that happens. Ecclesiastes 7: Wisdom: Better to accompany the sorrowful over the prideful…. Better to be criticized by a wise person than to be praised by a fool. This applies to myself as well. I aim to put myself around the wise and not be dubiously praised by individuals that are not seeking the ultimate goal: heaven.
this is an especially despicable act by bergoglio.
Lofton response in 5, 4, 3…
Haha. He probably will. The guy is without virtue and a total fraud.
The Pope is the servant of the Church - explicitly. The Pope is the servant of the Church. What does that suggest about everyone else's role? The Pope at the very possible least, *has* to listen to the rest of the Church.
Only to Christ and those speaking with Christ on their lips
Sounds good on the surface, but what do you really mean when you say, "and those speaking with Christ on his lips.? Which members of the Church does that exclude?@@UncleKlausSchwab
I love Cardinal Burke. Unfortunately he’s saying precisely what the Pope is saying on most things. They aren’t in disagreement.
I remember, in the 1980s and 1990s, when those defending Saint John Paul II said you can't question the Pope, After all, "Roma locuta est, causa finita est." Many of those now openly challenge the Pope. Maybe they should get a little more consistent in their arguments,
JP2 should be condemned for indifferentism. He kissed the Quran for Pete's sake.
@@carolynkimberly4021 Assisi!
Those who claim Pope Francis teaches heresy and error, are themselves ignorant of Catholic teaching and Canon Law and Holy Scripture!! As lies were told of Jesus Christ at His trial, so too even now of Pope Francis by modern day elders! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink
Maybe you are the one spreading errors?
@the_bold_taddy_quinn1143 If i am spreading errors, then the Holy Scripture are in error, as too Catholic teaching and Canon Law! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink
They actually claim that it is a case of heresy that the cardinal was accusing him of. I don’t take it that way. I think he was saying that that’s what it sounds like or that’s how we can be portrayed and even if he did, I’m sure it was in Charity one TH-camr that comes to mind actually seems to be very happy when Cardinals or priests are removed. That being said, I don’t know if it’s just lack of confidence or maybe too much confidence just from studying on the surface or some other issues that might be happening.. even if his judgments were correct on the bishops or priests, we are supposed to be praying for them if they’re removed and are of error and wishing them to come back, we need all the priests bishops and cardinals that we have plus some. I actually love cardinal Burke and I disagree with a particular TH-camrs way of handling this. but I am also getting sick of the people that are right in their interpretations, but gloat we are supposed to approach everything with a sense of humility, and when I first came to the church and saw all of this me coming back after a very long time I would say almost 20 years it does break my heart. I thank you for your work crying because you always seem to put a smile. on my face because I know that you really love what you do and I believe you have a great love for the church and her members as well. Thank you.. no more TH-cam bickering no more speaking against priests and Cardinals. It just seems like a whole bunch of backbiting and as far as the problems in the church we do need to know what is going on, but it should never be so much that it discourages us sometimes people should just concentrate on apologetics, because that’s what their channels used to be about and this goes for both sides of the aisle.
The pope is not the head of the church. Christ is the head of the church. Christ may have appointed leaders within the church, he even may have appointed Peter to lead the church, just as he appointed kings in the Old Testament. But those leaders are not infallible. I don’t think Catholic doctrine even asserts that popes are infallible, except in very limited circumstances. I am an Anglican, so I could be wrong about that. I think it is very dangerous to say that any human person is above correction. I also think it is a kind of magical thinking to believe that a particular leader cannot make bad doctrinal decisions. The promise of God was that the church would prevail, but that does not mean that no errors would be made along the way.
I think people are conflating "infallibility" with "impeccabilty". Only God is impeccable (incapable of error).
As most Catholics know, infallibility is extremely limited in Papal teachings. If a Pope's teachings run even *slightly* counter to the de Fide (Perennial Magisterial Teachings) beliefs, it cannot be considered de Fide, and certainly not infallible, therefore not worthy of belief. He must then reconsider the problematic wording and make the correction needed in order for his document, or Teaching, to be considered "infallible".
In NO OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES is he considered infallible! He is, after all, just a human! The Holy Spirit only protects THE CHURCH from a Pope trying to *FORMALLY* teach error by changing dogma or doctrine. Sometimes, that protection comes in the form of swift death at God's hands. The Holy Spirit does NOT "guide" the Pope! That is not a de Fide teaching...ever!
God bless and thank you for the video. I pray the “expert” doesn’t pick this apart.
Merry Christmas
So you approve of correcting the Pope, but not a layman? Brian is a humble guy, I believe he would welcome his thoughts being picked apart. Iron sharpening iron.
Oh he is doing so right at this minute. If you hurry might catch the last few hours 😂
@fragwagon I don’t make my living off a TH-cam channel, along with merchandise and/or A Go Fund Me Page just because I have a degree in Theology and claim to be The Expert on all matters pertaining to The Magisterium or The Catholic Church.
I have faith and go to Mass for The Eucharist not because of Priests, Bishops, and The Pope.
God bless
@@brigidmartin I wouldn't so quickly dismiss Priests, Bishops, and the Pope. After all, if Jesus didn’t give us them, we wouldn't have access to the Eucharist. It seems disingenuous to put a divider between them. We are a family.
Yet… Did not address the 2nd form of punishment correction (both unjust, unexplained and non-canonical) by Pope Francis on Cardinal Burke!?!??
As the title suggests… only concerned about Cardinal up to Pope. However, that is the supposed reason for the reactionary punishment by the Pope upon the Cardinal… for criticizing the Pope.
I know this might be controversial to answer but I genuinely would like to know. Does a husband have that kind of authority to correct and punish his wife? Or would it only be the parents who have that kind of authority over the children?
I think, Brian, that an example would help here when you say "popes have been corrected". Short answer - there is no example in Church history of a pope's formal teaching (not personal opinions or off the cuff stuff) being corrected.
yes, people can absolutely correct the bishop of Rome! the problem is that Burke is wrong and Francis is right.