Salmon Dial Battle: The Patek 5270p-001 VS The Breitling Premier Heritage Datora

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  • Brian compares two beautiful, but very different, salmon dial calendar chronographs. On one side we have the Patek 5270p and on the other the Breitling Premier Datora. Is the difference in price justified? Who are these watches for? What aspects of collecting draw you to the hobby? These are just a few questions that we explore in the video.
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  • @luxman9463
    @luxman9463 2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Buy the Breitling and have money left over for the Land Rover.

    • @shrevecrumplow
      @shrevecrumplow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Its hard to argue with that proposition! Thanks for commenting.

    • @stopthecap2644
      @stopthecap2644 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lmao… I mean.. solid logic you’ve got there

    • @MattH-wg7ou
      @MattH-wg7ou ปีที่แล้ว

      Or a frikken house!

    • @charp150
      @charp150 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You could buy way more than a Land Rover

    • @AlexNoman
      @AlexNoman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      buy yourself a house and a car and tissot prx 80

  • @torontowatches9709
    @torontowatches9709 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    What a review! Breitling is getting back to the top but they need to make much thinner watches! This watch should have been 13MM and it would have had waiting lists for years- either way love the BREITLING, glad they are getting recognition they deserve finally!

    • @shrevecrumplow
      @shrevecrumplow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Breitling winning the GPHG with the pistachio was prof positive of how much they have changed since the 90s. Love they are returning to form! Thanks for sharing!!

    • @torontowatches9709
      @torontowatches9709 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@shrevecrumplow The pistachio or even the gold model of that watch is spectacular! Hopefully you'll review it soon, loving this channel just subscribed- great content!

    • @shrevecrumplow
      @shrevecrumplow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@torontowatches9709 Thank you!!

    • @perfect7liberty
      @perfect7liberty 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Couldn't agree more!

    • @ApriliaRacer14
      @ApriliaRacer14 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bingo!

  • @WorldsWorstFishing
    @WorldsWorstFishing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I am a very proud Breitling owner and lover of horology... But this is on the level of comparing a Monet painting to a Middle School art project. However I love the video concept and the boldness to even make a comparison such as this. The more literature I read about what makes high-end watchmaking high-end watchmaking.. the more I appreciate the level that patek brings to their timepieces.

    • @shrevecrumplow
      @shrevecrumplow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thank you so much for commenting! Totally agree it was a large gap to compare, but the Breitling certainly held its own! The patek is just in a league of its own.

    • @StagguhLee
      @StagguhLee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shrevecrumplow As someone who would not have been able to tell you why one of these was a Monet and the other not, I found this video really helpful and interesting.

  • @niksin30
    @niksin30 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    A wonderful and high quality comparison of two very unique watches. Very well made video

    • @shrevecrumplow
      @shrevecrumplow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much! Be on the lookout for more comparison videos.

    • @22bwalks
      @22bwalks 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Nik!

  • @goboogeeee
    @goboogeeee 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I appreciate this thoughtful and nuanced comparison.

  • @akcoop
    @akcoop ปีที่แล้ว +12

    the Breitling is actually nicer in person, tried it on today

    • @shrevecrumplow
      @shrevecrumplow  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Breitling is spectacular!

    • @ericpignatore5317
      @ericpignatore5317 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I tried one on recently as well. It really is stunning in person. Pictures and video don't do it justice.

  • @Therealgdoesgshit
    @Therealgdoesgshit 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m a Patek fanboy for sure and I have to say , case design / size etc Patek wins by far but and I didn’t expect to say that I prefer the breitling dial

  • @jmmeares
    @jmmeares 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Having tried that Breitling... it's super thick, which is it's biggest deterrent. If it came with a hand wound movement and measured less than 14mm (13 would be ideal), it would be a real winner and I would buy one for sure.

    • @shrevecrumplow
      @shrevecrumplow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for commenting Jeremy! The Breitling is certainly on the thick side, however it does wear well on slightly larger wrists!

  • @0728451031548270jeff
    @0728451031548270jeff 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The Breitling is better looking and far more legible to my eye. Both do the job very well, the value like anything falls to the individual.

  • @johnbenton5102
    @johnbenton5102 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    awesome video! it's a bold take to compare such different price points but it makes total sense! I think i'd still give my vote to the Patek, but the Breitling brings a STRONG fight.

    • @shrevecrumplow
      @shrevecrumplow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks John, the Datora really took us all by surprise. A real breath of fresh air for Breitling!

    • @22bwalks
      @22bwalks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      John, too fun not to compare the too! 😀

  • @jzplayinggame
    @jzplayinggame 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I think the most frustrating thing about the breitling watch is it's so close yet they were totally within their power to make this materially closer in quality to the patek: Skip the automatic and go manual and get rid of the caseback to reduce the thickness, and make the dial more legible by making the day/month windows bigger, and the chronograph subdials smaller, just like the PP. Instead, they have a 42mm diameter 15+mm thickness benemoth of a dress watch that frankly, most people would not want to wear in any dressy occasion. Oh, and make the blue leather strap the standard strap! It's stands out with the blue accents in the dial! It's like their design team got 90% of the way there and just forgot the last few very very important details.
    Would've bought the watch long time ago if it wasn't so damn thick and the windows so small.

    • @mcwankster-saturdaynightsp4677
      @mcwankster-saturdaynightsp4677 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wear the 116660DB Deep-Sea Sea-Dweller and although it is fine you really have trouble with it around cuffs. This Breitling measures, like, 15.3? And, my Rolex measures 18 - so it is really, really not ideal for any formal occasion!

    • @michielroskam3877
      @michielroskam3877 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its actually wears very great

  • @docgeo1779
    @docgeo1779 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent video. Very educational and entertaining. I’m amazed that anyone could get their hands on the Patek for a comparison like this.

    • @shrevecrumplow
      @shrevecrumplow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you George, we get a lot of very special watches here at Shreve, Crump & Low and we love to share them with you guys! Both are great!

  • @ali-tal
    @ali-tal ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Two great pieces for two different crowds.
    The breitling is an everyday watch for all of us. The PP is also an everyday watch but for some of us

  • @user-bl6kx5ev7x
    @user-bl6kx5ev7x 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Prefer the look of the breitling but it’s still a very expensive watch! The patek will have more hand finishing but price difference is insane

  • @truxton1000
    @truxton1000 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am surprised that at first glance I like the look of the Breitling better.

    • @shrevecrumplow
      @shrevecrumplow  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A lot of people have said that at the store. Saves you a good chunk of change too!

  • @qwertyman9560
    @qwertyman9560 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not a big fan of the Patek snobbery, but man the way they engineer and make their watches, its a league above.

  • @rickjason215
    @rickjason215 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice Breitling, but their best chronograph movement is the B01. I believe the movement on the Datora is a modified Valjoux movement. Thus the thickness.

  • @BigSosayNYC
    @BigSosayNYC หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video!

  • @DennisC_X
    @DennisC_X ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Datora looks amazing, especially for the price point. How does its wear experience compare to a Heuer 02 Monaco in terms of thickness? I know they're totally different watches, but the Monaco is also about 15.5mm thick.

    • @shrevecrumplow
      @shrevecrumplow  ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting question. They wear pretty differently but thickness wise they are about the same. Of course the Monaco wears much larger due to the fact that its a square.

  • @barcleighbristow9495
    @barcleighbristow9495 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    While breitling seemed to go through a strange stage of "fashion watches" but they've always been in my top 5, while the breitling is a little to thick! It 95% there and for the price it's by far much better value! Based on the dial alone I'd choose the breitling, sorry not sorry. If I could afford the PP I'd own both but probably only wear the Breitling 😬

    • @shrevecrumplow
      @shrevecrumplow  ปีที่แล้ว

      It really is great to see how far Breitling has come in terms of reconnecting with their heritage. Great choice!

  • @robertalexanderho5268
    @robertalexanderho5268 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have a. Patek minute repeater.... And the perpetual is also very beautiful.... But both are too complicated, me thinks...

  • @danm2089
    @danm2089 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If money wasn't an issue, patek for sure. The size is perfect, they were able to squeeze a perpetual in that size while Breitling isn't even a perpetual and its 15.3 (thats really thick). It just says the finesse is not there for the Breitling. I like the dials on both. Machine finish i can understand because of the $, I don't expected a perpetual for this price, but I think they couldve done it in a more moderate size. Even i can make a perpetual if you gave me unlimited space but thats not what a skilled watchmaker does.

    • @shrevecrumplow
      @shrevecrumplow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thickness is one of those aspects of watchmaking that separate the good from the great! Great comment!

  • @franksanns3738
    @franksanns3738 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is difficult to keep the cost out of the equation when it comes to wearability too. Walking around with a item on your wrist that costs as much as a small house or a second hand Ferrari is great in normal places that you might go. When venturing around after hours, in a less safe place of town, in the subway, or even on the street, there is a non zero chance that you get rolled for your watch. Would you be out and about with hundreds of thousands of dollars of cash in your wallet? I think not. So even if you can afford the Patek, there will always be just a little resistance to wear it in some circumstances unless of course that you have a monstrous amount of money than you can afford to carry hundreds of thousands of dollars on the street. My point is, for most of us, a $13K watch would be a painful loss if something would happen but nowhere near the kind of loss of losing the Patek. I guess, I like middle of the road luxury for most daily activities and reserve something more special for more upscale occasions. For this reason, I think they both are highly desirable watches for what they bring. No losers here.

  • @RabbitWatchShop
    @RabbitWatchShop 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Breitling's salmon pink tone dial is preferable over Patek's dull, muted tone.

  • @suphiturker2948
    @suphiturker2948 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video Brian!

  • @boombox05
    @boombox05 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The breitling is 7500 USD now in mid2024

  • @jackspade5749
    @jackspade5749 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Put micro lens then you will know which watch polishing is the best… obviously patek… but durability i choose breits

  • @gustavorivero5653
    @gustavorivero5653 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really nice video for everyone who loves watches!!!!

    • @shrevecrumplow
      @shrevecrumplow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Gustavo, we appreciate the comment!

  • @fez877
    @fez877 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Patek sub dial sit lower than the Central hand sets. Prefer the Breitling over Patek in this regard.

    • @shrevecrumplow
      @shrevecrumplow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting! Those small details can really be a killer to some!

  • @patthompson1253
    @patthompson1253 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful video guys!

    • @shrevecrumplow
      @shrevecrumplow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much! We hope you enjoyed the video and will consider subscribing!

  • @PaddyMcMe
    @PaddyMcMe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hmm in car Terms Patek is definitely a Bugatti, instead of custom coachbuilding you're getting custom craftsmanship.
    That said the Breitling dial offers the same experience as the Patek for 1/15th the price. They're both significant amounts of money but the Breitling is the price of a used car whilst Patek the price of a 1 bedroom Studio in the City... Or a 2 bedroom apartment in a little town... Unless you're a watch fanatic 2mm width & movement decorations just aren't worth that much. I LOVE watches and even I think spending more than $15-20k on a watch is lunacy unless you're so wealthy that amount is irrelevant.

    • @shrevecrumplow
      @shrevecrumplow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great points, glad you enjoyed the video!

  • @richie694
    @richie694 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Breitling for me

  • @robinbalthazar1662
    @robinbalthazar1662 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whats the music

  • @ashermadan
    @ashermadan ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ll be honest, the Breitling has the better dial.

  • @robertsullivan4773
    @robertsullivan4773 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm sorry comparing these two watches for me is to much of a reach. They aren't close other than they are both watches. The Breitling doesn't even have an in house movement which kills this at the jump. Which by the way I'm a Breitling guy and initially at its release I loved the Datora but I have up on it at its price point because of the movement and how thick it was. Nice vid however.

    • @shrevecrumplow
      @shrevecrumplow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for your feedback! Be on the lookout for more battles featuring more comparable watches.

    • @charp150
      @charp150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The Breitling movement is in house. You think there’s nearly a $200k difference between these watches? If you took the branding off most people wouldn’t even be about to discern which one is “higher quality”. Watches are 99% about brand perception.

    • @robertsullivan4773
      @robertsullivan4773 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@charp150 no the Breitling movement is not in house its made by another company and supplied to Breitling. It's based on the 7750. Do your research before you I correct someone.

    • @charp150
      @charp150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@robertsullivan4773 this used to be the case but has not been for several years now. Both the B01 chrono and the B25 (what is in this watch) are manufacture movements. They are not based on the Valjoux 7750 as you indicated in your comment. Moreover, the B01 is regarded by many as one of the best chronograph movements on the market today. Having in house movements has been pretty crucial to Breitling’s reformation as a world class watchmaker. A simple internet search would tell you this.

    • @robertsullivan4773
      @robertsullivan4773 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@charp150 I know the technical background of the B01. We weren't talking about the B01 we are talking about the movement in the new Datora which Is not manufactured by Breitling but by another movement manufacturer and is in fact based on a 7750 which they modified. Again research.

  • @davidobrien9362
    @davidobrien9362 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Those to watches,face on square,that 1mm is lot .

  • @popalaurian
    @popalaurian 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It must be 3 Watch in this video, Uou forgot JLC Master Chrono calendar

    • @shrevecrumplow
      @shrevecrumplow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good pick! If we get one in we will be sure to review it.

  • @Manny_____
    @Manny_____ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You sound like Will Wheaton. 😂

  • @fearnpol4938
    @fearnpol4938 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Saamon dial?

  • @Billytheshit
    @Billytheshit ปีที่แล้ว

    …15.8x

  • @user-hi6tp2ii9u
    @user-hi6tp2ii9u 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    このブライトリングプレミエダトラ買った、140万→外商値引きで119万、パテック・フィリップしている人間に会いたくない

  • @shimy333
    @shimy333 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    $206,000 is clown S for a watch

  • @abcdLeeXY
    @abcdLeeXY 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Breitling all day. Use the rest of the money to put down payment for a house😂

  • @janelavie4115
    @janelavie4115 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The 2,9 mm difference reveals one being an automatic with a rotor and other one hand winding. Please show at least a bit of basic knowledge.

  • @Murph_82
    @Murph_82 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Only one winner here.. ones affordable and one, most could never afford . Breitling 👏

  • @raybugz9275
    @raybugz9275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Breitling is no match.

  • @yaakovhassoun8965
    @yaakovhassoun8965 ปีที่แล้ว

    basically comparing apples and oranges just because they have a similar color face...

  • @however-yh2jy
    @however-yh2jy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They're probably both made in the same factory in China anyway

  • @maestro200377
    @maestro200377 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can’t compare Breitling to Patek, that’s an insult to watch community… 😂😂😂
    I own Colt and Calatrava, both amazing watches, but for a daily use I’d be terrified wearing Patek…

  • @jonnieinbangkok
    @jonnieinbangkok ปีที่แล้ว

    Brietling = Valjoux movement 😆

  • @Jaxfnaf
    @Jaxfnaf 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    T

  • @coronaman8046
    @coronaman8046 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Breitling is like the wife that you keep dropping of at the plastic surgeon and hope she looks like the girl of your dream when you pick her up!!

  • @jeanlefranc3817
    @jeanlefranc3817 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just randomly discovering this channel. First thought is that the channel name is a joke. Maybe you should take advice from marketing consultants ?

    • @shrevecrumplow
      @shrevecrumplow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Herve, Shreve, Crump & Low is proud to be America's Oldest purveyor of Jewelry, Watches and Fine Gifts since 1796, with our original flagship store based in Boston with a second flagship store based in Greenwich, CT. Thank you for the comment and we hope you subscribe to the channel if you are enjoying our content! : )