I hate when people say "underrated". What do you want them to have for making a typical predictable joke? A big cash reward? Stfu "underrated" how gay.
Best part is it doesn't look too "edgy". It is sleek and styled pretty well with a dark Paladin helmet, it is my favorite armor set next to Steel Plate.
DamienDarksideBlog yeah, you could to roleplay a pretty cool character with it. I am planning on making a character called something like " the dark soldier" or something that's like the opposite of a good knight.
Oblivions daedric blows Skyrims daedric away IMO, other ones though yeah, be careful who you call ugly in middle school p.S oblivion's divine crusader armor is the definition of badassery
Oblivion's Daedric Armor: Y'know those shoulder bits? How about, instead, we put big dinner plates there with little tidbits to stick out and catch your arm when you swing! That way, you'll always swing horizontally! You won't swing vertically, or even at a diagonal angle! Skyrim's Daedric Armor: ...Spikes. Spikes? Spikes. Lots of Spikes. I want to get caught on every doorway and cave entrance possible. I want to have spiders using my armor as a spot to live... When it comes down to it, All forms of Daedric armor have looked rather silly. Still, I'd rather have gigantic spikes and look like 'Original Character, Does Not Steal' than 'Mr. My Armor can serve as a Meal Tray'.
What's more crazy about this crazy camera movement is that it wasn't quite like it back in Morrowind. It worked like Skyrim in fact. So they screwed up. Like many other things they tried to do in Oblivion.
@@outlanderwraith Meh. If its awesome then its awesome. Who really cares if its edgy or not. Give me edgy armour any day before realistic or campy armour.
@@pyroblunt5365 I actually noticed this when I saw a thumbnail that included Jiub (from Morrowind....duh) and a Skyrim dark elf and it surprised me how well the they did in making the characters not look like bad renderings of an inflated foot.
*Ebony in Oblivion:* _"Hey man! Wanna join my D&D club after school? My mom will make us mini-pizzas!"_ *Ebony in Skyrim:* _"One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them, one ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them!"_
All the armour in oblivion look like theatre costumes. If you met that kind of warrior in person, I'd laugh. But if I saw someone looking more like the Skyrim guy, I'd probably shit myself
It's weird that all the armour in Skyrim is actually useless, leaves way too many exposed areas (see: Iron armour) and the armour in Oblivion is good, protects the whole body and has useful helmets.
Iron armor is the only heavy in Skyrim that has an exposed area like that, and it's because it is the cheap starting heavy set. Maybe regular steel armor too but it's not too much better, and even still they both have upgraded chest pieces that add sleeves. Meanwhile there is Steel Plate, Dwarven, Ebony, and Daedric with full body armor suits.
Devin O'dore Daedric armour is awful, too fantastical with overly heavy plates,no neck protection etc. Same with Dwarven Armour, it would be impossible to move in, and alongside it, there's no upper leg protection in Dwarven armour.
I have been getting comments regarding why I compared steel armor to steel plate armor for 5 years now. The only reason why I compared the steel plate armor to oblivions steel armor is because oblivions steel armor is also technically a plate armor, its just not called that way. The so called steel armor in skyrim looked nothing like its oblivion counterpart, so I decided it would be a better idea to compare the 2 plate armors, guess not.
I like the darker changes in Skyrim's armor, because it's 200 years after the Oblivion Crisis and in a whole different region of Tamriel, which means a lot of armor is going to look different. But Shrowded Armor, Blades Armor, and Dwarven Armor looks almost exactly the same because the Dwarves and Blades are gone and the Dark Brotherhood is deeply rooted in tradition
It's a bit too dark though. If you bother to read the books in the previous games, Skyrim's described as a pristine, quiet, frozen land blanketed with snow. It's supposedly so beautiful that people travelling there feel like they stepped into an entirely different world. Skyrim in Morrowind and Oblivion is a fantastical snowy wonderland. Skyrim in Skyrim is one gray boring tundra.
I remember the first day I played skyrim thinking how much I missed the armor styles of oblivion..... Boy was I a stupid idiot However I still miss the unarmed skill and the ability to just wear pants
It's more a opinion based thought but I personally enjoy Oblivions armor more as it looks more functional and more cool in my opinion but I can see Skyrims appeal
There are some armors in skyrim that more open lmao. It's weird cuz they live in a cold environment but wear less, did they lack materials to cover their muscles or just wanted to flex it
Ebony became more badass, but I think Orcish had the best improvement. It looks better in design And lore-wise. I like Oblivion's Iron armor better because it looks like you're in a suit of armor and not just trying to protect your important bits.
Best looking armor across both games is Skyrim's Ebony armor (in my opinion). Such an imposing design. And the worst one has got to be Oblivion's Glass armor, it's like plastic.
People are confusing graphics with design. Majority of the Oblivion armors look stupid because their designs are bad. The glass armor for one is way too brightly colored. The awful potato people models don't help either
Oblivions better in its music and of course dialogue options and the reason iy was suppose to be so colorful was because it was a much warmer part of tamriel.
Totally agreed, as an artist myself even when playing Oblivion on release I thought there armor designs were lackluster... let alone later when compared to the Skyrim designs, which were ALL BETTER. Only descent one from Oblivion was the Daedra Armor.
Even though Oblivion is my favorite Elder Scrolls title, i admit that it has the weakest armor designs. Except for the Divine Crusader armor, that one is perfect.
the only thing i hated about shrouded armor in skyrim is how big the hoods were.. like damn i wanna look stealthy not like im an alien from mars with that balloon head
It’s an assassin’s armor. The whole point of covert action is to not be seen, so who cares if it looks ugly? Usefulness over vanity. I agree that it looks bad, but it’s understandable. Now heavy armors, like ebony or steel plate must inspire fear in your foes and rally your comrades to battle, hence they are made carefully and have a cool design.
the graphics still are good to think only a couple of years after oblivion gaming graphics sky rocketed skip to present day and now we have unreal engine four
I really dont like higher tear armors in these kind of games. I mean most of them look great and epic but whenever i play an elder scrolls game i always find myself playing with lower tiers of armor because they look more realistic and down to earth in my opinion. It also makes me feel more connected to the world when i walk around like anyone else and not in super fancy high fantasy armor.
Bro, the dawnguard armor with the torturer hood is one of the best looking armor combinations in skyrim, you straight up look like a rogue and it fits the world so well
@Una The BookWorm you don't really need a reason other than the fact that Black looks more Pleasing to the eye, it doesn't hurt like White does, and people are more accustomed on wearing black, even famous actors would wear black or blue suits on events, Blue and Black are the 2 universally liked clothing color especially Blue but Black are still more formal, I don't know if you just hate the color black and assumed everybody wears it for some formal reason but that isn't the case, the two mentioned colors are just a cut above the rest
***** I'm guessing it's a bunch of people bitching about which game is better. I love all elder scrolls games and get really annoyed when people argue over that stuff.
It’s steel plate armor. There are multiple types of steel armor. This includes steel, scaled, steel plate, steel horned, steel Nordic, and steel imperial.
@FuckinWeeb Yeah, yeah, you disagree EVERYTHING about Skyrim because you thinks "Oblivion good Skyrim Bad", aren't you? Playing old games really must make you special, huh?
@@Luna-Starfrost I had forgotten to point out that when he compared the armors between the two games. He obviously haven't used appropriate sets of armor like the orcish armor in Oblivion, he is still wearing ebony boots and still wielding elven sword and elven shield.
You want really charming quests and gameplay? Play Oblivion. You want beautiful landscapes and astounding graphics? Play Skyrim. All I want is them combined.
There's not really any "after that." Your made up story takes place in the world the whole time. When you're done, give your character a meaningful death.
@Barbara Meza I would harbor a guess that you are referring to the realms of Oblivion that are seen in the Oblivion gates - i.e., Mehrunes Dagon's realm of Oblivion, which is apparently known as the "Dreadlands."
Oblivion feels more nostalgic to me, and seeing its armour sets made me smile. Sure, most are wacky. But i like the medieval feel mixed with fantasy. Plus, Daedra armor still looks great after so long. And we can't forget the knight of the nine crusader-style armor set!
@@sirsteam181 For the most part, yeah - that's the exact same reason why I also just generally like Oblivion's armors more. There are a few Skyrim armors that look practical, too. The Steel Plate armor shown in this video looks fairly good, the Ebony armor looks great, and the fur armor looks pretty decent too. The Dawnguard brigandine-looking armors were definitely a welcome sight when I first saw them, and the Skyrim elven armor is a good look too. A lot of the issue with most Oblivion armors narrows down solely to the helmet pieces of most armor sets, particularly the Glass and Ebony helmets. The sheer brightness of the colors in Oblivion also affect the appearance of many assets negatively, as they lose a sense of reality when so starkly lit up. I imagine shader and lighting mods could look phenomenal on Oblivion.
I do love how the armors reflect the new areas they take place in as well as the passage of time with each game - it's what I love about ESO so much makes me look forward to ES6 even more :D
People keep defending Oblivion like it was a great looking game for its time and honestly it wasn't. Compared to other big titles that came out around that time it looks and plays kind of crappy. The story was legit, but there is no denying how it looks and plays. If it wasn't for the modding community the game wouldn't be held in such high regard.
Vanilla Theis People keep saying how Oblivion wasn't good for its time as if their opinion is fact. There is nothing to deny here, by the way. Two people can look at the same painting differently, we all have our own opinions and view of this game. At the time, I thought Oblivion was marvelous: it had amazing graphics for its time, beautiful music, wonderful story, the gameplay was fun and new, and I had never played anything like it before.
I know its a more game-y thing. But I'd like to believe different areas of tamriel adopt different styles when making armor. And time periods probably matter too
Actualy, this is the canon explanation. Even such things as daedric armor are said to reflect minds and feats of local population. This also applies to Monsters. In book corpse preparation you can actualy read that IN CANON morrowind mudcrabs are giant, and skyrim mudcrabs are tiny.
@@fallenknight3016 In almost every category, Souls hands down, especially the lore. But in term of exploration, Elder Scrolls of course, especially Morrowind.
Bryn Shadow In my opinion, the Shrouded Armor should've looked more like the Nightingale armor (not texture wise, but just...overall shape). Wearing the shrouded armor in Skyrim emberrases me because it makes me feel like I'm wearing some kinky studded pajamas.
Skyrim looks so dark and grey compared to Oblivion. Oh well I guess that's why we use ENBs, and I guess Bethesda was going for the whole dark medieval look.
Another thing to take into mind a lot of people don’t think of, the armour is in a completely different region so the armour would obviously look different made by different “cultures”. I always preferred the morrowind armours because of detail and how it sat. I was disappointed in the daedric armor in oblivion and Skyrim,same as the glass armor (sure the daedric armor is beautiful, it’s just I liked the morrowind rendition so much more.). Otherwise the improvement between oblivion and skyrims is absolutely beautiful. I can’t wait to see the new elder scrolls when it… mayeb comes out.
I liked Oblivion's imperial heavy armor best tbh. Looked like something heavy cavalry would wear, which makes sense as you often ran into mounted patrols in Oblivion.
Yeah, same. I'll only give it to the glass armor, that is better in Skyrim. Elven is better too, but not by much. Iron looks great in both games. Steel is definitely superior in Oblivion, as is everything else.
I believe you mean resolution. Skyrim is generally far more beautiful than Oblivion due to the mountains, and the open tundra... it allows for picture-perfect gameplay in some scenes. However, despite that, the resolution is... well, terrible in some places. Especially up close to those things. In that regard, Oblivion is better, because even up close things don't change much.
Agreed! Almost everywhere you go it's snowing and no sunshine. i was impressed by the armor designs but got tired of the same scenery, same dwarven/nordish dungeons and lack of diversity of enemy NPCs.
I like the comparisons here. It's a nice way to show how not only how graphically TES has changed, but since each game takes place in a different country of Tamriel, they create and design their armor differently depending on the climate of the area and the necessities of the social-political situation.
manegirl93416 this is a good point but Skyrim is cold and it seems like oblivion armors have more coverage than skyrim like the leather armor in Skyrim is a damn skirt and a sleeveless shirt with some shoulder pads that always bothered me like I'm running around in the snow swimming in frigid waters during a snow storm but I'm half naked
Andrew smith that's why I wear fur armor til I skip the leather section I never liked how it look I mean it looks just dumb with out it being ice cold out
Honestly, I think the visuals are much more important than quests and characters in sandbox RPGs, for the simple fact that I want to feel immersed when walking through a beautiful land, and realistic graphics help that In a huge way.
The actual content of the game is less important to you than graphics? That's so absurd it's moronic. Regardless, I don't see how anyone could enjoy the grey environment of Skyrim more than Oblivion's. The complete lack of color makes the game hideous. I remember when it came out I didn't enjoy traveling nearly as much because of how dull everything looked. In Oblivion, especially in the Shivering Isles, everything looks vivid
There's so many ENB and texture mods to bring the color back. You should look em up. They do so much for the game. Shame Bethesda decided to remove all color
Obivion is being invaded by obivion a necromancer problem a gang of fighters guild rejects killing innocent villages and no emporor to take the throne. Skyrim has a dragon trying to end time a vampire menace trying to block out the sun a civil war and slowely going to be destoryed from the end of obivion. This was a joke
Funny thing is kOTn armour is now in Skyrim from the CK, and also a mod but regardless Oblivion doesnt have anything else unique. STILL LOVE Oblivion. Just love Skyrim #1 over anything, so happy we got Special edition
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Ebony armor went from 'Tis but a scratch' to 'Sauron wants his ring back' real quick
I wish they kept the gold edging though
@@nojustaveryverytallboi3657 m o d s
LMAO! Perfect! 😈
@@nojustaveryverytallboi3657 the elder scrolls blades has the skyrim design but with the oblivion gold
@@monkeyt2675 I know, it is beautiful.
Oblivion Ebony: Wanna join my WoW guild?
Skyrim Ebony: Tell me, do you bleed?
WoW is more along the lines of O. Glass
This made me spurt water out of my nose. Thanks.
Daedric:YOU WILL.
I dont get it
@@lunkycultist5519 its a batman line from batman vs superman
Not hating on oblivion, but man the character looks like the dragonborn's bullied little brother
Good one
True
LOL
Nah, the graphics in oblivion are trash.
Hi, it's me Yeah.
Oblivion Ebony: i'll have her home by 9 sir
Skyrim Ebony: she calls me daddy too
Underrated af
@@PLAKIPLAKI14 It's not underrated, the video is 8 years old and this comment is 1 week old...give it time :P
LOL 😂
I hate when people say "underrated". What do you want them to have for making a typical predictable joke? A big cash reward? Stfu "underrated" how gay.
Except Oblivion’s armour was far more chad than Skyrim’s generic spiky shit.
You vs the guy she tell you not to worry about
SuperMicklovin lol
+the forgotten gamer he was born in Hawaii
i died.
SuperMicklovin LMAAO
looool
Ebony Armor is basically the definition of "Be careful of who you call ugly in middle school". Lmao
Best part is it doesn't look too "edgy". It is sleek and styled pretty well with a dark Paladin helmet, it is my favorite armor set next to Steel Plate.
I think you could say that at every armor shown here.
DamienDarksideBlog yeah, you could to roleplay a pretty cool character with it. I am planning on making a character called something like " the dark soldier" or something that's like the opposite of a good knight.
Oblivions daedric blows Skyrims daedric away IMO, other ones though yeah, be careful who you call ugly in middle school
p.S oblivion's divine crusader armor is the definition of badassery
Oblivion's Daedric Armor: Y'know those shoulder bits? How about, instead, we put big dinner plates there with little tidbits to stick out and catch your arm when you swing! That way, you'll always swing horizontally! You won't swing vertically, or even at a diagonal angle!
Skyrim's Daedric Armor: ...Spikes. Spikes? Spikes. Lots of Spikes. I want to get caught on every doorway and cave entrance possible. I want to have spiders using my armor as a spot to live...
When it comes down to it, All forms of Daedric armor have looked rather silly. Still, I'd rather have gigantic spikes and look like 'Original Character, Does Not Steal' than 'Mr. My Armor can serve as a Meal Tray'.
2:51 It took him 200 years to put his sword away
Wow the best coment *.*
Didn’t even put away the same sword he unsheathed all those years ago.
I didnt get it at firsr but when i did i wheezed
That's what she said
@@pablomagno4679 that's an old joke it's not funny anymore ._.
3:18 he looks like what skyrim male children would look like if they grew up
He looks like my frikin son in Skyrim
Looks like ice age baby
@@skybros9319 holy shit
yeah fr hahaha
@@verygeneric7065 He looks like everyone's son, lol.
And that's why you play Oblivion in first person.
Faris Prasko Prolly cause the 3rd person camera handles like complete dog shit. I love Oblivion but Jesus, does it need to be remastered
What's more crazy about this crazy camera movement is that it wasn't quite like it back in Morrowind. It worked like Skyrim in fact.
So they screwed up. Like many other things they tried to do in Oblivion.
Faris Prasko so truz
@@brycekrispiez714 #OblivionAndMorrowindRemasterNow
No no it's not Oblivion looks great think of when it came out plus graphics doesn't make a game it's everything not just 1 specific part
Was Bethesda allergic to creating full-faced helmets when making oblivion?!?!
They wanted to show off their glorious facegen faces
There's only two of them in the game, and one them looks like a basket
Jack Dinwiddie
For real look at the orcish helmet it looks like robin put on a leather cap
It would need to have a flat top then. That little "mohawk" makes it even more weird.
Jack Dinwiddie that's actually a good joke
Nude in Skirim: armor of muscles
what's the matter? you can't stand the sight of a strong nord woman
@Ra Alf *Goodbye*
ngl his skin look like cookies in cream mixed
ngl his skin look like cookie and cream mixed
ngl his skin look like cookie and cream mixed
Makes absolute sense that Skyrim's leather armour is more exposed to the weather than Oblivion's.
That nord frost resistance,
But why tho.
100% frost resist baby! Frost Atronachs can go fuck themselves!
Kalsonic lol
Kalsonic Well, the Nords are resistant to frost, so there's no need for covering the entire body
is it only me or does the shrouded armor in skyrim makes their body's look very thin but their heads big?
Marin Hrabrić Yes ,it does and its very annoying
Yes that's why I don't like the shrouded armour
yeah, I wish the shrouded armour was more loose
awildleonard
yeah it actually looks better in oblivion then in skyrim imo
Marin Hrabrić
yup
The graphic improvements they made in 4 years is actually crazy. Let's hope this 10 year gap has just as good (or better) improvementz
Lmao by the pace they're doing stuff it's about to be a 20 years gap
And still after 30 years im still not done finishing the quest and collecting all of the items that i need for my house to be at 100%
Hell I’m ok if they only improve it slightly i like Skyrims style
They didn't even make assets yet lol
They are still planning on how to put mehrunes razor somewhere
I think we all agree armor looks cooler when you can't see a face, or at least it's mostly covered
@Una The BookWorm okay then
@Una The BookWorm we all have those days
Thats why the rangers in the mojave looks badass
I disagree
This is true except when you have a cool beard and iron skyrim armor
Oblivion: colorful and happy
Skyrim: dark and sad
Lol
Skyrim is dark and brutal
@@mirelion5328 yap thats also true
@@mirelion5328 Dark and edgy?
@@outlanderwraith Meh. If its awesome then its awesome. Who really cares if its edgy or not. Give me edgy armour any day before realistic or campy armour.
Skyrim more epic
Is it just me or does the Oblivion Dwarven armor look like your wearing a barrel?
Caleb Lagred I was thinking the same, haha.
Yup. Looks like a lumpy sack that was spray painted yellow. It is still a decent armor compared to others.
Caleb Lagred omg Yes!
i really like the skyrim dwarven armor
It looks like Gypceros armor from monster Hunter
Oblivion Imperial: For cyrodiill!!!
Skyrim Imperial: For Rome!!!
All roads lead to rome
Morrowind imperial armor also looked more like roman armor.
@@qcumber6652 this isn't about Morrowind though
@@notaweebijustwatchanime.7573 Skyrim's artstyle is based on Morrowind
@@pyroblunt5365 I actually noticed this when I saw a thumbnail that included Jiub (from Morrowind....duh) and a Skyrim dark elf and it surprised me how well the they did in making the characters not look like bad renderings of an inflated foot.
*Ebony in Oblivion:* _"Hey man! Wanna join my D&D club after school? My mom will make us mini-pizzas!"_
*Ebony in Skyrim:* _"One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them, one ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them!"_
Ah a man of culture i see
a nice original comment
D&D AND Lotr? You just made my day
Both of those scenarios are good.
Nice
It bothers me how much of a child the oblivion face looks.
the Argonian looks like a Chameleon with aids and a color disorders.
Sir Slithers Then mod oblivion.
Nah I'll pass
Sir Slithers why? Oblivion is sooooo dank with mods
***** I'm kinda in an addiction with esv
All the armour in oblivion look like theatre costumes. If you met that kind of warrior in person, I'd laugh. But if I saw someone looking more like the Skyrim guy, I'd probably shit myself
It's weird that all the armour in Skyrim is actually useless, leaves way too many exposed areas (see: Iron armour) and the armour in Oblivion is good, protects the whole body and has useful helmets.
Iron armor is the only heavy in Skyrim that has an exposed area like that, and it's because it is the cheap starting heavy set. Maybe regular steel armor too but it's not too much better, and even still they both have upgraded chest pieces that add sleeves. Meanwhile there is Steel Plate, Dwarven, Ebony, and Daedric with full body armor suits.
Devin O'dore Daedric armour is awful, too fantastical with overly heavy plates,no neck protection etc. Same with Dwarven Armour, it would be impossible to move in, and alongside it, there's no upper leg protection in Dwarven armour.
you have to remember, children imagine spiky armor, and the daedra are children in some ways.
***** note: do you know that TES is fantasy?
*Oblivion Elven Armor*
Loki: excuse me i believe you have my helmet
Pay the court of finals
2:10 Ah, yes. That Power Ranger look.
Power ranger shrek
he kinda looks like a samouraï on crack
Looked more like a caterpillar, to me.
My brother and I always called it medieval dirtbike armor
Now when I create Sonic out of oblivion's cursed character system I will be playing that song full volume the whole time*GO GO POWER RANGERS
I have been getting comments regarding why I compared steel armor to steel plate armor for 5 years now.
The only reason why I compared the steel plate armor to oblivions steel armor is because oblivions steel armor is also technically a plate armor, its just not called that way. The so called steel armor in skyrim looked nothing like its oblivion counterpart, so I decided it would be a better idea to compare the 2 plate armors, guess not.
Makes sense to me.
Arvuti Have you got skyrim SE?
Nope
Arvuti 4 years 364 days
It's been so long since I've played Oblivion, I'd forgotten how god awful the armor looked.
Oblivion really has a way of making everything look funny... I love it so much.
I like the darker changes in Skyrim's armor, because it's 200 years after the Oblivion Crisis and in a whole different region of Tamriel, which means a lot of armor is going to look different. But Shrowded Armor, Blades Armor, and Dwarven Armor looks almost exactly the same because the Dwarves and Blades are gone and the Dark Brotherhood is deeply rooted in tradition
Yeah but...dwarven improved a lot
Dwarven armor in elder scrolls wasn't created by dwarves it's just made from the material they used.
Nah the shrouded armour looks terrible in Skyrim, looks nothing like how it looked in Oblivion
@@springheelzach812Wrong though - they Made it FOR OTHERS (selling etc.)
Skyrim is so dark and gloomy, it represents the harsh norhen lands irl very well...
It's a bit too dark though. If you bother to read the books in the previous games, Skyrim's described as a pristine, quiet, frozen land blanketed with snow. It's supposedly so beautiful that people travelling there feel like they stepped into an entirely different world. Skyrim in Morrowind and Oblivion is a fantastical snowy wonderland. Skyrim in Skyrim is one gray boring tundra.
NEET Kitten the books have lied !
Nick Milligan oblivion, civil war, and the dragon crisis probably contributed that decline
@@obijuanquenobi1911 yea dragons breathing fire is gonna make a LOT of ash
the only bright thing would be cloud district...
To me, daedra armour in oblivion is the only one that doesn't look completely horrible. Probably because the characters baby face is covered
Driftz what about the shrouded armor?
Driftz dwarven?
Driftz i was thinking the excact same thing.
just play as fem and wear no helm , it's better
Driftz right
"I think we should go easy on Oblivion. It just released in 2006..."
*sees the dwarven armor*
WHEEEEEEEEZE
**sees dwarven armor** Hmmmm... Hmmmm.... Mmmm... Oh-ho!
NEET Kitten Forgive me. I was absorbed in thought.
@@Davvilaa I am Seigmeyer of Catarina.
Buddy looks like a fucking onion lmao.
NEET Kitten i am in quite a pickle indeed...
I like the fact that Skyrim's Daedric armor has a dragon shaped helmet.
And the Shield looks like a dragon that closing his wing makes it even better
How did I not notice that?
Kinda like monster hunter looking armor
@@istolethispfpsorry485 shut up
I always thought the Daedric helmet in Skyrim looked a bit like some retarded bird. Just how I've always viewed it. **shrug**
I remember the first day I played skyrim thinking how much I missed the armor styles of oblivion..... Boy was I a stupid idiot However I still miss the unarmed skill and the ability to just wear pants
Agreed. Don't know why they removed the option to wear shirts and trousers underneath your armor.
It's more a opinion based thought but I personally enjoy Oblivions armor more as it looks more functional and more cool in my opinion but I can see Skyrims appeal
There are some armors in skyrim that more open lmao. It's weird cuz they live in a cold environment but wear less, did they lack materials to cover their muscles or just wanted to flex it
@@vasily3127 it’s because nords have frost immunity
@galuh ismi in the older elder scrolls games they had 100 frost ressistance. Frost spells had no effect.
Glass armor skyrim= what you think you look like
Glass armor oblivion= what you actually look like
Yea
True
There is no color in Skyrim's armor, but the detail is SO MUCH BETTER.
CheeseHead Gaming
That's the point.. Oblivions color looks like something from MLP XD
Spartan & Loleris Gaming there is color, or is this a Joke
Armor isn't supposed to be that colorful anyway, imo.
Ebony became more badass, but I think Orcish had the best improvement. It looks better in design And lore-wise. I like Oblivion's Iron armor better because it looks like you're in a suit of armor and not just trying to protect your important bits.
I kinda like that the weakest heavy armour looks cheap tho. Makes the bandits wearing it seem rough
Yeah that full plate steel being separate from normal steel was a good choice.
Common heavy armor bandits being in complete suits is silly
I agree. Early game armor looks terrible to me. I can help but mod them every time see them.
I hate that one the same reason I hate the Imperial one; it's just the historical reference, not much originality to the fantasy generally-speaking.
I'm voting for Dwarven on most improved. The blockiness of the Oblivion variant, and the design of the helmet was just awful 🤣
2:52
“No, my sword!”
"don't touch my sword"
“A new hand touches the sword”
Best looking armor across both games is Skyrim's Ebony armor (in my opinion). Such an imposing design.
And the worst one has got to be Oblivion's Glass armor, it's like plastic.
Nick L lol oblivions glass armor looks like a neon glow stick
Nick L I've never played oblivion but i like the glass armour. it looks eccentric
Tusked You should play Oblivion
Morrowinds glass armor is pure gold.
So why's it called glass armour if it's made of pure gold? :P
People are confusing graphics with design. Majority of the Oblivion armors look stupid because their designs are bad. The glass armor for one is way too brightly colored. The awful potato people models don't help either
Exactly how I think. Oblivion even has more colorful graphics than Skyrim, the armors would've looked better if they had been designed better
Oblivions better in its music and of course dialogue options and the reason iy was suppose to be so colorful was because it was a much warmer part of tamriel.
Big Grasshopper man in oblivion
MrZurata exactly if the designs were good the armors could look nice just with worse quality
Totally agreed, as an artist myself even when playing Oblivion on release I thought there armor designs were lackluster... let alone later when compared to the Skyrim designs, which were ALL BETTER. Only descent one from Oblivion was the Daedra Armor.
Even though Oblivion is my favorite Elder Scrolls title, i admit that it has the weakest armor designs.
Except for the Divine Crusader armor, that one is perfect.
I agree there. Most of the armor in Oblivion was lack luster, although I do like the Ebony and Daedric armors in the game.
Madness armor slaps though
*D E U S V U L T*
Praise the sun.
Always thought the Dwarven armor in oblivion was better looking
the only thing i hated about shrouded armor in skyrim is how big the hoods were.. like damn i wanna look stealthy not like im an alien from mars with that balloon head
Exactly! Also i dont think it counts as “armor” because it looks like it was made out of fabric, and it looks dumb on males
@@donteverbuynoweedfromthega844 honestly worst looking armor in the game, it looks ridiculously bad I was disappointed
It’s an assassin’s armor. The whole point of covert action is to not be seen, so who cares if it looks ugly? Usefulness over vanity. I agree that it looks bad, but it’s understandable.
Now heavy armors, like ebony or steel plate must inspire fear in your foes and rally your comrades to battle, hence they are made carefully and have a cool design.
@@IHateYTHandlesGiveMeMyNameBacksneaking around in them tight ass skinny little leather pants for some ten years
Oblivion feels cartoony compared to skyrim.
LewdIsao It IS cartoony lmao
Currently Dark Link it's also 10+ years old
and skyrim is also 200 years after the oblivion crisis
the graphics still are good
to think only a couple of years after oblivion
gaming graphics sky rocketed
skip to present day and now we have unreal engine four
Ryan Evans Morrowind is even older, but armor looks better.
I think we all get it. Those who played skyrim first, like skyrim more, those who played Oblivion first, like Oblivion more.
I played Oblivion first and like Skyrim more.
J4ck0f5p4d3s i played arena first love them all
Yeah. Playing Skyrim first totally ruined Oblivion (and the other games before Oblivion) for me
***** Did you say the voice actors in Oblivion were better? Lmfao, the 7 of them?
I played Skyrim first and I like Oblivion more
3:10 gotta love that Mountain Dew armor
Wrong minute
You meant 2:10
2:11 Looks like he's about to speak italian
Like he wants to say: porco il duce e di chi lo conduce
I WEEZED DUDE
So freaking underrated
@@riwhoooshme3424 sì proprio quello😂
Indubbiamente amico mio, indubbiamente...
Leather Armour back in Oblivion looked so much better to me
2:14 wtf is that pose
That's the pose of someone who's about to start aggressively speaking Spanish at you.
@@NEETKitten si así es it will speak like pinshe pendejo
Unarmed
TACO BURRITOS JENIFER JOPEZ
Heavy from tf2
I love how the oblivion character is standing with 1 foot inside the rock
I really dont like higher tear armors in these kind of games. I mean most of them look great and epic but whenever i play an elder scrolls game i always find myself playing with lower tiers of armor because they look more realistic and down to earth in my opinion. It also makes me feel more connected to the world when i walk around like anyone else and not in super fancy high fantasy armor.
In Skyrim I usually rock leather or steel until I unlock smithing of dragon armour that's the only upgrade I get
for me its Steel armor for a warrior, guild armors for the rest.
Bro, the dawnguard armor with the torturer hood is one of the best looking armor combinations in skyrim, you straight up look like a rogue and it fits the world so well
@@michaelsowell3653 I rock ebony a lot in Skyrim, it’s just really good looking armor
This is the exact reason why i started modding my game
I wish there was chainmail in skyrim. It was one of my favourite light armor sets.
there is, use mods
Ok cool thanks.
Phelan Lawson if u dont have it already, get Immersive Armors, best armor mod out there
Phelan Lawson ebony chainmail is the only one in skyrim
Phelan Lawson What about Mithril as well?
Daedric armor looks equivalently badass in both games
I like the skyrim daedric helmet a lot more though.
Derek Cisneros true but I made my Daedric armour more Badass with mods
Derek Cisneros look up young jams and listen to The Zoom album
Derek Cisneros so true
The Pixel Commander in oblivion it's better th
Skyrim: I once was a traveler like you then I took an arrow to the knee
Oblivion: have you heard of the high elves?
*Npc says that to my High Elf*:
My character: I'm right here, is this some kind of weird joke?
Oblivion glass armour looks like you feel in a radioactive tide pool while Skyrim glass armour looks like you haven’t worked a day in your life.
Is it just me or is Cyrodiil more prepared for cold weather than skyrim is...
KidFox I think it's because the nords in skyrim are used to the cold
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no thats not true, i`m from scandinavia, but when it starts snowing I have to wear a lot of clothes
the buildings are based off of Viking buildings that existed
the buildings yes, but the clothes looks like swedish 80s pop stars
Glass armor in Oblivion looks hilarious
Yup
+samg013 Yes XD Look way better in Skyrim.
The glass armor makes you look like a Yellow Samurai Power Ranger.
Crafter Nexus Yeah XD
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Everything in Oblivion looks so fucking dorky and I love it.
Oblivion- Crazy fun looking stuff, Noble-ish and hero-ish
Skyrim: *DARKNESS* and "What the *F* is Light?"
Bandit: mercy!
Me: merci! Parle vou Francais? Oh right time to die.
Oblivion: why can’t we be friends?
Skyrim: Why are we still here?? Just to suffer.
@Una The BookWorm nobody wears dark clothes to impress people, people wear dark clothes because it's fookin amazing
@Una The BookWorm you don't really need a reason other than the fact that Black looks more Pleasing to the eye, it doesn't hurt like White does, and people are more accustomed on wearing black, even famous actors would wear black or blue suits on events, Blue and Black are the 2 universally liked clothing color especially Blue but Black are still more formal, I don't know if you just hate the color black and assumed everybody wears it for some formal reason but that isn't the case, the two mentioned colors are just a cut above the rest
@Una The BookWorm i actually like dark clothing :\
Oblivion armors look like knights or paladins, while Skyrim's look more viking-ish
That’s because Skyrim is basically a Viking game and oblivion your a knight just stopping devils
Hi, it's me completed it
Lautaro Lencina It is not that serious
@Lautaro Lencina Dude, did you?
Knights of the Nine, fighting evil Ayleid demons
I think that is the point..
Please don't read the comments, this is not a good place.
Welcome to youtube
I'll take your advice on that
***** I'm guessing it's a bunch of people bitching about which game is better. I love all elder scrolls games and get really annoyed when people argue over that stuff.
rightben370 It is full of morons and Skyrim/Oblivion fanboys.
Thanks for the warning. I caught a glimpse of it and it's pure cancer.
The steel armor in Skyrim looks really good.
It’s steel plate armor. There are multiple types of steel armor. This includes steel, scaled, steel plate, steel horned, steel Nordic, and steel imperial.
@Macoy Miller steel horned is just a helmet. You can make it at a forge with steel smithing.
@Macoy Miller steel Nordic is the same except it’s a pair of gauntlets instead of a helmet. Everything else is a full armor set.
@@Garry503 Don't you have dlcs?
@@kadrylkam3884 carved Nordic armor is in dlcs, but I'm pretty sure that's made of quicksilver
0:45 is steel plate armor, not steel armor.
@@domishere4313 Steel armor is short sleeved and has less armor rating...
Alpha Shogun i know that I’m not dumb , I’m just saying. You know what, my comment back fired, I have nothing to come down
Alpha Shogun ;-;
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Same thing just different shapes
Holy shit Dwarven armor in Skyrim is soooo much more intimidating lol
And heavy as fuuck
In oblivion it looks like a barrel...
Only intimidating when you played to much donkey kong 😅😅
@Sweet Roll still some armors look reeeaally weird, glass armor and dwemer armor for example..
@Sweet Roll glass armor is way too bright and dwarven Armor has a body part which looks like a barrel. That's kinda weird
@FuckinWeeb Yeah, yeah, you disagree EVERYTHING about Skyrim because you thinks "Oblivion good Skyrim Bad", aren't you? Playing old games really must make you special, huh?
I like how the blades armor is the same. It's realistic that way.
Never knew that being nude was an armor class
Tell that to dnd barbarians and monks
Even still, nothing beats the daedric and ordinator armor sets from Morrowind. Even the psuedo samurai Orcish armor holds up today.
I know I'm late but I think the orcish stuff looks more like mongolish. uwu
@@Luna-Starfrost I had forgotten to point out that when he compared the armors between the two games. He obviously haven't used appropriate sets of armor like the orcish armor in Oblivion, he is still wearing ebony boots and still wielding elven sword and elven shield.
You want really charming quests and gameplay? Play Oblivion.
You want beautiful landscapes and astounding graphics? Play Skyrim.
All I want is them combined.
Amazing quests and beautiful graphics ? Witcher 3
Wasn't really a fan of the Witcher games.
Howcome ? Not liking the story/setting or not a fan of more character heavy RPGs ?
Yeah, it wasn't really my cup of tea. I prefer Fallout/ES games due to how you can build your own adventure. That's probably the most fun thing to do.
There's not really any "after that." Your made up story takes place in the world the whole time. When you're done, give your character a meaningful death.
When i was a kid i thought that Oblivion is the best game ever, with best graphics.
Axelisxdxd it was for its time and that was what 2005?
because it was at the time
Axelisxdxd true it really was it was the best game when i was a kid i thought Farcry 1 was the best then i thought Farcry 2 was aaah the good days
***** lol
Mayor Three Doge I know XD
2:10 : "You wouldn't hurt someone with glasses right?...right?"
2:20 : Ha! Yeah by the time i'm done with you there will be water in Oblivion.
There already is water in oblivion. Namely hircine’s realm, and I guess apocrypha too? Maybe coldharbor, and I guess that’s all that I know of..
@@Vencidious Don't forget the Shivering Isles, which is an entire ocean of normal water accompanied by islands.
@Barbara Meza
I would harbor a guess that you are referring to the realms of Oblivion that are seen in the Oblivion gates - i.e., Mehrunes Dagon's realm of Oblivion, which is apparently known as the "Dreadlands."
1:45 You nailed it with oblivion almost crashing
Edit: plus that Glass warhammer in oblivion hit different shame OP didn’t show it
Lol, i forgot how most of the helmets in Oblivion looked... derpy :P
Crazy Ambasador All the more reason not to wear one :)
Nikolai Kravchenko That was my problem with heavy armor in Oblivion, it didn't look like it was actually protecting
The Steel armour to me is probably the only armour that looks safe to wear in a fight, although Mithril was nice.
Yeah, almost all of the armor in Oblivion has a fatal flaw. No neck protection.
The dwarven one made me chuckle
Can't wait to compare all three when TES6 comes out! :)
Lofty Smalls YES
Hopefully Bethesda will remember to include color in their game this time. Everything in Skyrim looks so dull compared to Oblivion
TES6 will sucks ass. Everyone can tell.
@goblin how old are you?
@goblin that's more emojis than an instagram post made by a teenage white girl
Oblivion feels more nostalgic to me, and seeing its armour sets made me smile.
Sure, most are wacky. But i like the medieval feel mixed with fantasy. Plus, Daedra armor still looks great after so long. And we can't forget the knight of the nine crusader-style armor set!
I have the same feeling however as I history buff I can enjoy Oblivions armor more because it seems like it's more feasible
@@sirsteam181 For the most part, yeah - that's the exact same reason why I also just generally like Oblivion's armors more.
There are a few Skyrim armors that look practical, too. The Steel Plate armor shown in this video looks fairly good, the Ebony armor looks great, and the fur armor looks pretty decent too. The Dawnguard brigandine-looking armors were definitely a welcome sight when I first saw them, and the Skyrim elven armor is a good look too.
A lot of the issue with most Oblivion armors narrows down solely to the helmet pieces of most armor sets, particularly the Glass and Ebony helmets. The sheer brightness of the colors in Oblivion also affect the appearance of many assets negatively, as they lose a sense of reality when so starkly lit up. I imagine shader and lighting mods could look phenomenal on Oblivion.
stfu oblivion sucks
They left out my favorite set, the Mithril armor!
I do love how the armors reflect the new areas they take place in as well as the passage of time with each game - it's what I love about ESO so much makes me look forward to ES6 even more :D
wow Skyrim makes oblivion look like RuneScape
Hades Torture but dragonhide in females is cute on RS. Whereas all Armour in Oblivion is... Idk.. More realistic?
Realistic? In a game full of dragons and vampires we are talking about realism?
That's because Oblivion is an old game that was released in freaking 2006?
People keep defending Oblivion like it was a great looking game for its time and honestly it wasn't. Compared to other big titles that came out around that time it looks and plays kind of crappy. The story was legit, but there is no denying how it looks and plays. If it wasn't for the modding community the game wouldn't be held in such high regard.
Vanilla Theis People keep saying how Oblivion wasn't good for its time as if their opinion is fact. There is nothing to deny here, by the way. Two people can look at the same painting differently, we all have our own opinions and view of this game.
At the time, I thought Oblivion was marvelous: it had amazing graphics for its time, beautiful music, wonderful story, the gameplay was fun and new, and I had never played anything like it before.
The oblivion armor looks like plastic Halloween costumes
| Pirate | The Iron and steel armor in oblivion are on point and realistic, while skyrims steel and iron look like Halloween costumes.
Volker Gaming stfu the graphics are 100% better and the armour in oblivion is something minecraft made xD
DragBorn2 ha what a shrub lord, Design is different than graphics. Git Gud Shrub
Ulfric Stormcloak Yes, they're Toxic.
Says the dude who is literally named after a Skyrim character
I know its a more game-y thing. But I'd like to believe different areas of tamriel adopt different styles when making armor. And time periods probably matter too
Actualy, this is the canon explanation. Even such things as daedric armor are said to reflect minds and feats of local population. This also applies to Monsters. In book corpse preparation you can actualy read that IN CANON morrowind mudcrabs are giant, and skyrim mudcrabs are tiny.
2:48
Siegmeyer is that you?
Which is better souls series or scrolls series
@@fallenknight3016 In almost every category, Souls hands down, especially the lore. But in term of exploration, Elder Scrolls of course, especially Morrowind.
Eyyy
@@someorclad9738 elder scrolls lore is really cool, especially CHIM. And vivec is my faviroute character from anything.
Siegmeyer with terminal cancer phase 4
The only Oblivion armor I like better is the shrouded armour. It looks more realistic and the Skyrim version looks too costume-y.
Bryn Shadow In my opinion, the Shrouded Armor should've looked more like the Nightingale armor (not texture wise, but just...overall shape). Wearing the shrouded armor in Skyrim emberrases me because it makes me feel like I'm wearing some kinky studded pajamas.
Hey at least it's kinky ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I preferred the shrouded and leather armor in oblivion
I get the kinky studded pajamas playing as a girl, but as a man I feel like a cheap Spider-Man or a cheap deadpool
True but can we at least agree that skyrim wins the helmet competition?
Skyrim armour is just way better
Jake S it surely is, especially the Ebony armor
Some of it but the rest oblivion did better
Santi Bahena for example?
ザエオン the daedric
Santi Bahena They are nearly same and in oblivion its very skinny
I love that you picked a location in Oblivion where your character’s leg completely clips through a boulder, just to drive home the point. Lol
I've always wanted to look like a GIANT highlighter! Thanks Oblivion.
Skyrim looks so dark and grey compared to Oblivion. Oh well I guess that's why we use ENBs, and I guess Bethesda was going for the whole dark medieval look.
I suppose it's because of the game placement. Skyrim is cold, harsh land on north, while Cyrodiil is a paradise-like heart of The Empire.
Falkreath and the reach is a lot more colorful than the snowy holds
Green Floyd funny how everybody was bashing the remastered addition for being to colorful
they fixed this in skyrim se , its much more colorful
Abel Abitia SAVAGE
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That's not steel, that's steel plate
Both armor's still the same thing
@@sathere4786 No, Skyrim has 2 steel armors. Steel plate doesn't exist in Oblivion, so it shouldn't even be in this video.
@@Corthmic yet it doesn't change the fact that it's steel
@@sathere4786 Still a completely different armor set. If I make a steel mace can I compare it to a steel fork just because it's the same material?
@@Corthmic oh shut the fuck up lmao
Another thing to take into mind a lot of people don’t think of, the armour is in a completely different region so the armour would obviously look different made by different “cultures”. I always preferred the morrowind armours because of detail and how it sat. I was disappointed in the daedric armor in oblivion and Skyrim,same as the glass armor (sure the daedric armor is beautiful, it’s just I liked the morrowind rendition so much more.). Otherwise the improvement between oblivion and skyrims is absolutely beautiful. I can’t wait to see the new elder scrolls when it… mayeb comes out.
I love how the character in oblivion's foot is just clipping through the rock casually.
the ebony armor gave me flashbacks...
back to level 80...
that fight made me break a controller and i never rage at video games
BBG Im guessing ebony warrior?
blaze the fire wolf No its the leather warrior
Godzahtheking Urmmm Har har
Ah yes i remember oneshoting myself there
I bested that guy with ease
The shrouded armor was better looking in Oblivion in my opinion.
I agree
I think it doesn't look unique enough. It just looks like darker leather armour to me
but not unique enough
exactly my thoughts
Dramatic beast43 It makes sense though, wearing a light dark armor when you are an assassin, not covered in red.
I liked Oblivion's imperial heavy armor best tbh. Looked like something heavy cavalry would wear, which makes sense as you often ran into mounted patrols in Oblivion.
Wow, seeing the differences between the two is pretty crazy. The game still holds up to this day!
2:10 Didnt know Buzz Lightyear was featured in an Elder Scrolls game 🤔
Disliked. Did not use leather sword.
a leather sword would be floppy
HaHa_IDontGetIt But so damn stylish.
Samuel Tuttle with those stitches and weavings oh my.
I prefer fur swords
Samuel Tuttle Nah, nah, clothing swords are the best
Blades chestplate in oblivion: This isnt a box I promise!
i love the oblivion armors SO much more than the skyrim ones.
Yeah, same. I'll only give it to the glass armor, that is better in Skyrim. Elven is better too, but not by much. Iron looks great in both games. Steel is definitely superior in Oblivion, as is everything else.
I thought elven armor was supposed to be elegant
Kelpo Gaming elven armor are beautiful in skyrim
@@Elfezen Maybe Bosmer can rock it too, but everyone else does look terrible
@@whitedragon3742 oblivion are better
The oblivion helmet reminds me of Loki’s helmet
The oblivion armour makes the player look light a firefly 😬
the armors are cooler in Skyrim, but the land is gorgeous in Oblivion
Implying Skyrim isn't beautiful?
multiHappyHacker I mean, sometimes in skyrim shit just looks like it's been meltrd
I believe you mean resolution. Skyrim is generally far more beautiful than Oblivion due to the mountains, and the open tundra... it allows for picture-perfect gameplay in some scenes. However, despite that, the resolution is... well, terrible in some places. Especially up close to those things. In that regard, Oblivion is better, because even up close things don't change much.
skyrim looks depressing
Agreed! Almost everywhere you go it's snowing and no sunshine.
i was impressed by the armor designs but got tired of the same scenery, same dwarven/nordish dungeons and lack of diversity of enemy NPCs.
If I could have Skyrim's design and Oblivion's color that would be perfect.
This has just made me realise how beautiful Skyrim’s music is
I like the comparisons here. It's a nice way to show how not only how graphically TES has changed, but since each game takes place in a different country of Tamriel, they create and design their armor differently depending on the climate of the area and the necessities of the social-political situation.
True. And of course, the modding community does this as well.
manegirl93416 this is a good point but Skyrim is cold and it seems like oblivion armors have more coverage than skyrim like the leather armor in Skyrim is a damn skirt and a sleeveless shirt with some shoulder pads that always bothered me like I'm running around in the snow swimming in frigid waters during a snow storm but I'm half naked
Andrew smith that's why I wear fur armor til I skip the leather section I never liked how it look I mean it looks just dumb with out it being ice cold out
manegirl93416
...Yes?
Honestly, I think the visuals are much more important than quests and characters in sandbox RPGs, for the simple fact that I want to feel immersed when walking through a beautiful land, and realistic graphics help that In a huge way.
The actual content of the game is less important to you than graphics? That's so absurd it's moronic. Regardless, I don't see how anyone could enjoy the grey environment of Skyrim more than Oblivion's. The complete lack of color makes the game hideous. I remember when it came out I didn't enjoy traveling nearly as much because of how dull everything looked. In Oblivion, especially in the Shivering Isles, everything looks vivid
I miss how colorful Oblivion was. Skyrim has some serious tinting going on.
There's so many ENB and texture mods to bring the color back. You should look em up. They do so much for the game. Shame Bethesda decided to remove all color
Obivion is being invaded by obivion a necromancer problem a gang of fighters guild rejects killing innocent villages and no emporor to take the throne. Skyrim has a dragon trying to end time a vampire menace trying to block out the sun a civil war and slowely going to be destoryed from the end of obivion.
This was a joke
@@pj5403 Interesting theory hah
Man I miss playing Skyrim. Everything from the ambiance to the Easter eggs here and there. One of my all time favorite games
You are all saying that oblivion armor sucks, but wait till you see the knights of the nine armor and how badass it looks.
Funny thing is kOTn armour is now in Skyrim from the CK, and also a mod but regardless Oblivion doesnt have anything else unique. STILL LOVE Oblivion. Just love Skyrim #1 over anything, so happy we got Special edition
Chris D it has plenty unique stuff
Did you get my Christmas list yet?
Santa Claus that’s actually true, the pelinal armor is actually pretty cool and realistic.
Forget that. MADNESS ARMOR AND THE WIZARD ARMOR IN THE WORLD OF MADNESS IS WHERE ITS AT