12 Things to Know About the XR18 - The Good and the Bad! An Overview - Behringer XR18 & Midas MR18
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- Buyer research guide. Features and a faux pas. This is an overview of the Behringer XR18 and the Midas MR18 digital audio consoles. XR18/MR18 101. A walk-through taking a look at the ethernet, USB, XLR and other connectors on the front panel, the preamps, and on through to the control software and finally the outputs. Gain staging, automix, compression, gates, monitor connections, live streaming, and other audio mixing concepts and features found on the X-Air console are discussed and shown. XR18 wifi discussed.
An XR18 / MR18 tutorial and overview of the highlights and features. Behringer for beginners and refresher for more experienced users.
The XR18 / MR 18 X-Air consoles can be controlled by PC and Apple Mac computers using X-Air Edit software (available for free download on the Behringer site), or by iPad and Android tablets using Mixing Station or Behringer software.
These consoles also provide a 16 mic preamp USB audio interface for use with DAW software or streaming software and platforms.
Used by bands, soloists, duos, techs, recording engineers, and musicians of all ages. Mixing from stage, mixing from FOH, or used as an audio interface for a studio or home studio and DAW. The 16 channels of automix make it perfectly suited for conference mixing.
Even with the failings of the built-in wifi and its inability to handle heavy cellular traffic, and only 2.4G single band, the XR18 makes up for it in other features, size and price. Adding an external router for better connectivity onstage and outside of the rehearsal is a small price to pay for the total package.
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Video Summary:
This video is a live sound reinforcement tutorial for the Behringer XR18 audio console and the Midas MR18 digital audio console. It is a review, overview, and general audio mixing guide with tips and tricks and advice. For musicians, worship leaders, churches, clubs, and home recording enthusiasts.
0:00 Intro
0:14 Ethernet Connector
1:16 Other Top Panel Connections
2:09 16 Mic Pres and Aux Inputs
2:57 6 Aux XLR Outputs
3:19 Main L-R Out
3:25 Headphone Output
3:31 X-Air Edit
3:37 Setup
5:12 Mixer Channels
9:33 Automix
10:44 FX Rack
11:12 Output Features
This video is an overview of the XR18/MR18. Walking thru the highlights, and one lowlight (the built-in wifi), with some information, some advice, some tips and tricks, and links to other videos for more in-depth information on the various topics. As always, please leave any questions or comments here. :)
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0:00 Intro
0:14 Ethernet Connector
1:16 Other Top Panel Connections
2:09 16 Mic Pres and Aux Inputs
2:57 6 Aux XLR Outputs
3:19 Main L-R Out
3:25 Headphone Output
3:31 X-Air Edit
3:37 Setup
5:12 Mixer Channels
9:33 Automix
10:44 FX Rack
11:12 Output Features
Very helpful video, I haven't used this mixer in over 2.5 years so it is a good refresher. Thank you for creating it. 😀
Thanks!
Thanks so much - great video. I just got an MR18, and you're a lifesaver. Now I'm on to your other videos. Really appreciate your assistance.
Glad it helped!
Alan, I just want to say (again) that your videos on the XR-18 have been a life-saver last 12-months.. I thought I knew this mixer (and I had been using it for about 4-years) until I started watching your videos. I use it for live, rehearsals, recording (tracks live), and also for my videos. You need a gold star. Keep up the tremendous work. You are fabulous!
Thanks! :)
Yours is fast becoming one of the channels where I like before I’ve even heard anything 🤩
Thanks! :)
This is really solid information presented in a very helpful no BS attitude. Thanks man!
Thanks!
Love the timestamps. Great video as always!!
Thank you! :)
Simple, functional and very well explained as always. Greetings!
Many thanks! :)
Nice Job! Fast paced and easy to understand.
Thanks for watching and commenting! :)
Fantastic tutorial!!! 🙌🏻😁
I've watched a few XR18 tutorials to get me started and this one is the best. Pitched at the right level for me - someone who's used an analog desk before but with a limited understanding of what they were doing! Good brisk pace of delivery and a voice that's easy on the ears. Thanks for this Alan
Glad to help!
Just what I need it. Thank you. 👍
Wow… this is… amazing. Thank you so much! Very well done.
Your video are on point and a great resource. Thank you.
Thanks!
Incredibly helpful video thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
awesome overview - I've learnt a lot
Glad it was helpful! Thank you!
Excellent video and information Distinguished🙏
Thank you! :)
Just spotted this vid, must defo watch it tomorrow when time permits
Excellent tutorial!
Thank you!
Superb explanation….. very much appreciated 😎👍
Thank you! 🙂
The best video currently on the internet about xr18!
Thank you! :)
Very informative. Cheers
Thanks for watching and commenting!🙂
Fantastic video
Thanks! 😃
Good video highlighting some of the real weaknesses we've run into, especially the wireless. This video is using an 9older version of the software, so there are some additions not shown here (ie. the EQ screen now has gain, frequency and "quality" (Q bandwidth) settings in the lower right corner).
Great video as always, Alan! I'd love to see a video about how to use a midi footswitch with the xr18 to turn effects on and off, mute groups, etc. Thanks!
Thanks. I'll make a note of that suggestion. I need to do some MIDI research myself to make sure I don't miss something since I haven't had to use MIDI on it. For bands mixing themselves, MIDI would give some great options to mute FX or step thru settings.
nice video. very informative.
Thank you!
great video!
Thanks!
This is amazing.
Thanks!
As a drummer with pretty much no technical background on things when it pertains to the xair 18, I have picked up things here and there from watching your videos but as the more and more that I watch I find myself still not understanding a lot of things lol.
Wish I had someone like yourself that was at my rehearsal room and can work and show me stuff I'm having issues with or just stuff I don't know, which is a lot. Anyways always great content as usual.
Thanks!
Thanks!
You're welcome! Thanks!!
Grabbed an xr12 for acoustic and small gigs (x32 for full band) and these things are great... except for the damn wifi. I grabbed it for the band (upgrade from a mackie analog board), and used it at practice. First gig out, board was already set for the gig just needed minor tweaking. I used the built in wifi and had zero issues. Did our first set and Muted the board.. BIG MISTAKE! while on a small break the bar quickly filled up with college kids and we were eager to start again.. only... I could NOT connect to the mixer at all. I was screwed. no backup plan, just dead in the water. I shouldve unplugged the damn thing and went to a gas station to plug it in or something but we were stuck.. So I loaded up the jukebox with a ton of songs for them, and we packed up our gear. We also refused full payment, with our tails tucked between our legs, and I looked like the biggest A hole as I'm the one who lobbied for the xr12.. So heres the takeaway.. If youre using this for a small gig, a set it and forget it kind of thing, you can try and rely on the built in wifi as long as you dont plan on connecting to it. DON'T MUTE THE BOARD.. just turn off your speaker instead (thats what we do from now on). Grab a small wifi router and stick it in your bag. It will be the best $15 you'll spend. Otherwise I love these. Additionally, if you're gigging with other Music Tribe gear like Turbosound you can use the ultranet connection (cat5) and daisy chain all your speakers together with cat 5 and control everything via your tablet. Saves you on xlr cables. We use EV's but the option is nice to have.
Thanks for the real world story verifying this issue!
Hi. I am the lucky owner of the Midas MR18 console. However, I lack the ability to select indication meters 1-16 Pre fader and a post fader on analog inputs. I don't know if you understand me.
I will explain another way. During playback while moving the fader of channels 1-16, I also need to see the change to indicator meters for each channel 1-16. Now this is not possible because the signal for the indicator meters is taken from before the fader.
What do you think about it?
Well thank you
@@ml6245 If you use X-Air Edit and choose a channel, there will be two meters. The meter on the left is pre-fader and the meter on the right is post fader. This is only going to show you a post fader meter on a channel by channel basis though.
Other method:
If you choose "Setup" and go into the Monitor settings, you can make channel solo be AFL by ticking the box (monitor settings here is the engineer monitoring, not stage monitors). It's default is on PFL.
Any channel you solo will now show post fader (AFL) on the solo meter.
I don't know if either of those options is a workaround or not. I guess it depends on what you're looking to do in the end.
Or maybe I'm not understanding your end goal?
Your videos are the best out there for XR18, keep 'em coming! How much better are the MIDAS MR18 micr pre's vs XR18?
Thanks!!! :)
I’ve used this board in the past for years, stumbled upon the video cause I’m buying a new one for personal use, and yes. Worst part about this board is the built in WI-FI, I’ve had it screw us multiple times in gigs. (Even with an external router) Only other issue I’ve had was a few weird crashes that messed up the presets on the board, save your configs often.
thank you so much for the good video
I have a request. Please be more specific on how to use DCA.
I want to know how to tie channels
For example, 5 drum channels are bundled to increase the volume with one fader.
Can you control it please
I am from the group of people who has had the built in WIFI fail on me at a gig
You are not alone...
Same here
Alan thanks so much for these videos.. I'm learning a lot.
Please can someone tell me if its possible to control the XR18 audio etc whilst also running and controlling stop/ start/ track select etc on a playlist within a laptop or MacBook / iPad connected to the XR18 via usb.. Can I control all this wirelessly from my iPhone or iPad whilst performing live etc.? I think I dropped an error when buying this unit thinking it had the same usb in/out as the smaller Behringer units and many of the other manufacturers units... All I want is to be wireless and in control of everything.
Thanks for this very nice overview of these units. The presentation was clear in terminology, demonstration, explanation and organization. Have you worked with the Soundcraft Ui16? I will be using one of these three units for live performances with a 5-piece band (drummer has an electronic kit). The XR18 has more than we need and the Ui16 seems to be the perfect configuration of inputs and outputs. The Ui16 also has the basic effects that we're needing, with overkill for us in the amp modeling; the XR18 seems to have overkill for us in the effects selection. We have only previously worked with analog mixing consoles. Both units appear to require external routers for reliability for different reasons. If you were choosing between these models for someone new to digital, especially wireless controlled digital, with 4 vocal inputs, 4 mic'd instruments, and electronic drum kit input, which would you choose?
I've not used the Soundcraft, although I've used plenty of Soundcraft consoles in the past (and liked them). The XR18 is the devil I know at this point, so I'd probably stick with that myself. One reason I got the XR18 is how similar it is to the X32 (and M32), so if you learn one, you basically know the other. I already owned X32's so it only made sense to get the XR18 for smaller stuff, and quick and easy transport.
But starting from scratch?.... Hmmmm... I don't know what I'd chose in that case.
Great videos as always. I love them. quick question though. Channel 1 and 2, can those be used for things other than direct acoustic or bass? Like vocals? Or should you avoid using those channels for anything other than direct acoustic or bass?
You can definitely use them for other things like drums, vocals, etc... FWIW as long as you use a DI, you can connect a bass or acoustic guitar to any channel as well.
The XLR inputs function the same on all the channels, it's just that channels 1 and 2 have high impedance inputs in addition to the standard XLR inputs.
I use XAir 12 for small stuff. Setting a ducker on the music channel keyed to the announcement mic is fairly simple and very useful. And automix can be very useful, use the "last gate" feature on it.
Definitely a handy feature!
Hi andy trying to find info online but isnt much, can the X air 12, also multi track into a DAW?
@@mufti-day Unfortunately, no. The XAir18 is the only XAir that can.
I am watching your videos, and really getting some great information. As newbie to digital mixing, I have tons of questions. In your opinion is the X-air the best software to use? Are there others you would recommend? Also would you ever consider doing a tutorial on setting up the XR18 for use with JamKazam?
Thanks for putting these tutorials out there, they are proving to be a valuable resource to me.
On the PC or Mac, X-Air Edit is solid and easy to follow. I like Mix Station for Android tablets. And I know there's a Mix Station version for iPad as well. I always found Mix Station more intuitive than Behringer's own iPad app, but I'm more used to it since I use Android for tablet mixing.
Some people can get around on the tablet version as well as the PC software, even for configurations. For configuring things, I like X-Air Edit because there's so much stuff on the screen at once. So it's easier to follow and get to the steps. For mixing though, I'm good with either.
I need to load JamKazam and try it out. I've just never gotten around to trying it.
Would you consider doing a video showing how to use Garage Band to send multi-track music to the Behringer xr18. This would help in learning how to use the xr18 to mix. Thank you. As usual your videos are excellent.
Let me see what I can do. My Apple machine hasn't been turned on in some time.
Who's watching this after the wifi failed? Hahaha
@AlanHamiltonAudio Great video as usual!
Could you go into detail and perhaps make a video on audio playback via the usb? As an example say playing music during a set break ect. Thanks!
Thanks! That might actually be a good topic for the next video because it's a busy week and that might be one I can do rather easily with the time I have available.
th-cam.com/video/v0MC76qB0j8/w-d-xo.html
Nice vid, thanks. Do you know if you can hook up a midi controller keyboard to the XR18 to play software instruments in your DAW?
I've never experimented with any of the MIDI implementation of the XR18 so I don't have any idea. It's probably something I should take some time and learn about just to know for future reference.
HI! great video!! one question, Is it posible to send clean guitars and bass to midas and in a computer use STUDIO ONE ADD EFFECTS like BIAS FX, AMPLITUBE or DSP NEURAL(amp and effects sim for bass and guitars) and that final sound send to monitors for the midas OUTPUT, is that possible?? or the midas will send me the clean original sound for the monitor output?
This is something I've been curious about, but never have tried. I'm assuming latency could be enough of an issue to make it not work well, but I think it's one of those things a person would just have to setup and see.
Probably a job for Waves Multirack or Live Professor.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio thanks for the response!
@@JCSYKER No problem. Report back if you get it working! :)
hy alan can i ask something i just bought mr18 but my mac cannot connect to mair app i already connect the wifi
Thank you for your videos, they're amazing! I have a question (I'm still fairly new to sound mixing and these videos have been a life savers).
I've heard you emphasize that everything follows the gain control in multiple videos. Once you've completed soundcheck,what use case is there for using the faders versus adjusting the gain control?
Example: The lead guitarist uses his amp as a monitor and turns it up as the night goes on because he can't hear himself. At that point, I would expect to see the input gain rise above -18 dbfs and I would think the corrective action would be to adjust the gain control... I actually can't think of a scenario where I would use the faders anymore.
Any advice?
Thanks again!!
Yes.... if his level increases drastically then you could cut the gain and it be back to where you started for everything. Buy if it's just a small increase its probably not worth the reset unless all of a sudden the other musicians notice he got louder and it's creating mon mix problems. It's a balancing act because it could be they'd notice you turning down more than him turning up. But definitely watch for it being close to clip. Don't let that happen
Can the XR18 be plugged into an existing network via Ethernet, and then any computer on that network can use the software to manipulate it? Or does it have to be wifi?
You can connect it via ethernet to an existing network. I do it all the time when I'm making videos.
Great video, i just have a question, does the mr18 last frimware works in the xr18??
They both have the same FW updates available. Technically, I think the updates might even be the same files, but as for whether you could DL the MR18 FW and load it into the XR18... I don't know. IIRC you can load either, but the unit won't suddenly call itself an MR18.
How do you SIMPLY send the XR18's FX and EQ to a DAW along WITH the dry signal for each track?
Our XR18's mix sounds perfect LIVE, and that's exactly what I want the computer to record! I DON'T want to add FX and EX to the tracks in the DAW later!
I need help with this too
This question was in a couple of threads, and the answer was kind of long so I am just going to paste it here:
If you just want to send the complete mix, EQ and FX, to a stereo mix, then just go into IN/OUT on X-Air Edit then tab over to USB Sends and move USB1 and USB2 over to Main L (USB1) and Main R (USB2).That will capture all of your channel EQ, gates, comps, subgroup things, and FX exactly as it's fed to the house.
If you leave the default red ring up then it WON'T capture the house EQ or fader changes.
If you want to capture the house EQ/processing too, change it to the blue ring by right clicking on it in the graph. If you even want it tracking your master fader changes, the change it to the cyan color ring.
Then your DAW can record your stereo mix on tracks 1 and 2.
If you want to record ALL of the tracks separately, but with EQ, comp etc.... Then for each channel you're using, change the ring to Pink/Magenta in the USB Sends page on each channel. And if you want FX this way too...
To get the FX, probably the simplest way to get all of your FX, and assuming you don't have 8 open channels, is to setup a stereo subgroup and route all the FX there instead of the house on the FX returns. The route the subgroup to the house and run it at unity.
So, you'll get FX acting the same as normal, just taking an extra step to get to the mains.
But this lets you route the two busses you used to create a subgroup, via USB, to let's say USB 17 and USB 18. That means your FX will be on tracks 17 and 18 in your DAW.
You can route that subgroup to any unused USB channels. Example: If your band uses 12 channels, then you'd be free to assign USB13 and USB14 to your two Busses that you made into a subgroup for your FX.
If you're using all 18 channels of the XR18 for your band, and want to record 18 sep tracks to the DAW, PLUS get your FX too, then I don't think there's a way.
What are your thoughts on which tablet to use with an XR18? I have been using an Android tablet, but recently observed a friend controlling his with an iPad and there seems to be a significant difference. and what about Windows Surface?
I use Mixing Station software and have always just used an Android tablet with it... And X-Air Edit at home. I don't own an iPad so I can't really say whether you might like that better or not. I think it's probably whatever people get used to that they like the best. But right now, the iPad XR software won't work on iPads that have upgraded to the newest OS. Behringer has released a beta finally to begin addressing that. But Mixing Station on the iPad works fine... just as it does on the Android... and there's also a desktop version of it now too.
Nice overview. And indeed the WiFi of the X Air 18 s*cks. But wired to a router the X air 18 is OK. Good for you you mentioned this in the video.
Thanks! I totally overlooked it in the "5 Mistakes" video and that would've been a perfect place to mention it to begin with. I was so focused on techniques, and so used to not using the built-in wifi, that it never crossed my mind at the time. ...So I definitely wanted to work it into a video where it wouldn't be out of place to mention it. This overview video was the perfect opportunity I thought.
when i have solo set as PFL and than hit the mute button on that channel do i still have the sound of that channel in my headphones and its only muted in the main mix?
I believe that is correct. It'll definitely mute in the house, but you still would hear it soloed in the headphones I think. Usually, I have the channel fader down instead of muting the channel at soundcheck. I might mute all the channels, then pull the one down I'm working on at soundcheck so I can roughly (and slowly) put it back where it was if I'm working with a band and wanting to maintain the initial mix as a baseline to start.
Can i have the inputs sent to the computer into my DAW processing plugins, and have the sound routed back to the XR18 live.So I would use Waves plugins instead of using XR18 plugins?
You can... BUT... latency can get to be an issue. If it's for reverbs, might not even matter... If it's for compression or gates, could be trouble.
thanks for the info. Is the controlling app available for a MacBook Pro via ethernet? I can't find the app on the Apple App Store.
X-Air Edit for Max is available at Behringer Download site:
www.behringer.com/downloads.html
@@AlanHamiltonAudio awesome mate.
hi.just wanna ask..im using an old laptop for control of my XR18...im planning to use another laptop as alternative/or ill just use it as control of the mixer..In using this new laptop,what connection will i use??mixer to pc or pc to mixer???before i lost all my settings in the xair coz of wrong connection...can you please hep me..thanks
Load MIXER to PC or else it will overwrite the settings in the console. Loading mixer to PA will load whatever the last show was when you shut the XR18 off, onto the PC. The second you load PC to Mixer it will overwrite it.
So, Mixer to PC is what you want to save that. Then, once it loads, on the PC choose Save and then Save to Scene to save that current scene on your PC. That way, even if you mess up the next time and erase your scene, you can still load it from the scene you saved on that PC.
I watched one video that recommended the XR18 as a secondary mixer for a band in ear system. What are your thoughts on that?
Yes, it really works well for that if it has enough channels and outputs for the band. Which is should for most except for large bands.
I'm just working on some thumbnail tweaks for an XR18 Dedicated Monitor Setup video. Here's the link:
th-cam.com/video/Zf83kolgVzk/w-d-xo.html
I also have a video about the parts and pieces, and thought processes and considerations, for building an ear rack around the XR18 (or MR18)... Technically, the process would work for an X32 Rack too...
th-cam.com/video/xT9gTBFxvZk/w-d-xo.html
@@AlanHamiltonAudio great info! Thank you!
@Randy Hammontree No problem!
Is it possible to add individual effects? So we can set effects for a mic but want to add different effect
Pretty standard as far as how you setup FX and what you can do with them. This video talks about the FX rack, how it works, plus some mistakes/misconceptions that exist:
th-cam.com/video/TV5ClH_MWrU/w-d-xo.html
@@AlanHamiltonAudio thanks that helped
I have just purchased a Midas MR18 and will be using it for recording. I have a Roland TD12 that i have been using with Superior drummer but so far I have not been able to get the TD12 to talk to it. I am using everything I have been previously using except I am now using the MR18 as the midi interface whereas I was using a 003+ previously and it worked fine. I have set the midi device in Superior drummer to the Midas, but so far no communication. Is there anything you can suggest that I may have missed? I am assuming that the MR18 will act as a midi interface between the TD12 and the PC.
I've not really used any of the MIDI implementations on the XR18/MR18 so I can't be of much help when it comes to MIDI. Hopefully someone will see this question who is using MIDI and chime in.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio Thanks for the reply Alan, I hope also that someone will see this and have the answer. I will watch your video a few more times when I am able to take in the general info and not just looking to deal with the midi issue. ;-). Great video BTW.
@@bumzigan Thanks! LMK if you have a question on the audio side of things with it. Also, there are several videos on the channel that pertain to the XR18/MR18. A couple of "Explainer" videos try to answer some places where people come across stumbling blocks. The FX Rack is one place. Although it's simple, they probably didn't make it APPEAR as simple as it actually is. And then tap points, both channel send tap points and output tap points can trip people up. So there's an Explainer video for that.
For anyone who has the same problem as I have had, there is a simple fix. Tick the box in settings for midi, "USB midi thru" and you will be good to go.
Hey bro, i want to ask something, my church just buy midas mr18 a few months ago and i want to use the multitrack feature straight to DAW on my pc, although i already download driver from the official sites, my pc didn't detect the mixer, i tried to unplug and plug it again, but it didn't solve the issue, any idea?
This video is for Reaper (DAW) but the parts about the MR18 set up would be the same regardless of the DAW you're using. th-cam.com/video/xYmJGyroVe0/w-d-xo.html
If you're doing all of that, I'd make sure and swap out USB cables to make sure that isn't the problem. And also, max length on the USB cable is roughly 15'... so if your USB cable is close to that length, or longer, definitely try a shorter cable.
If the shorter USB cable works, BUT you need a longer one for logistical reasons, you can get an active USB cable. But first things first, just try to make sure it's working.
Also, just in case, I'll mention this- You have to use USB for audio. The Ethernet connection (or Wifi) is only for control functions. You can use both at the same time so that control and audio are on the same computer if you want, but for audio to PA/Mac, there has to be that USB connection.
just want to go out on a limb and assume that it would be similar to my Midas m32 LIVE in that it requires the IP address from the router to communicate with a computer for control. I wouldn't be able to just use a cable from the computer to go straight the unit, thus avoiding the need for router all together?
I connect it directly with a cable to a PC all the time without using wifi, nor the external router. For almost all of the vids, I just run an ethernet cable from the computer over to the XR18 and connect it hardwired.
oh snap thats good to know, thanks for the info
Hey - that Midi implementation chart link doesn’t seem to work…
Thanks for the heads up. I switched the link to here:
www.manualslib.com/manual/925112/Behringer-Xr18-Xair.html?page=8#manual
Might be a bit of a duh question, but if you use it as an audio interface, can you just record the whole mix or can you record several inputs separately? I'd like to use it to record guitar, bass and drums at the same time, but each in different tacks so I can edit them later in the DAW. Any experience on latency using software guitar amps and monitoring with headphones plugged in the xr18?
Definitely can record individual tracks. It's 18x18. So you can record 18 tracks from the XR18. You can choose whether to send the inputs directly to the DAW, or you can sub-mix some things into subgroups and send a combination of subgroups and individual channels into the DAW.
If you did happen to want to record just a stereo mix, you'd just go into the USB routing and assign the main L-R outputs to also feed a couple of USB outs... like USB 1 and USB 2 (for example).
Essentially, you have 18 USB outputs you can assign in the routing to come from channels or buses.
This is an older video I have on the channel, but it explains how to connect Reaper to the XR18/MR18 and record individual tracks. Any DAW will be essentially the same:
th-cam.com/video/xYmJGyroVe0/w-d-xo.html
@@AlanHamiltonAudio Thanks a lot! Very helpful :)
I'm interested in buying this mixer (Midas version). Do you know if I connect it to my computer directly using an ethernet cable, does my computer retain internet connection via wifi? I have thought to use the same computer to mix audio and send the live stream (OBS) and I must use my phone's wireless hotspot because there is no internet in the church. I'm afraid that the computer is going to use ethernet to connect to internet, and as we know, it doesn't work because there is only the mixer.
I'd think there'd be a way, but not as simple as you're describing. Maybe a networking guru will see this and reply. I'd think it'd be a matter of getting everything on the same network, obviously, but I have no experience beyond the standard setup.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio Ok, thanks anyway! Your videos are very helpful!
Quick, dirty answer is switch the XR18 to client and have it connect to the phone hot-spot (provided the firewall rules on the phone permit peer to peer traffic)
Otherwise, it may depend on the computer.
Linux :no problem at all
Mac: should be fine
Windows: I expect it can be done but may involve Internet connection sharing (as when your PC is used as a way for a wire only device to access WiFi)
Hi this is really helpful. I have a P16M, I’ve tried to insert FX ( reverb) into the routing options but I’m frustrated as I’ve been unsuccessful thus far. Please help :)
Unfortunately, I don't have a P16 to actually walk thru this. I've set them up on service calls for X32's... So I have some idea what you need to do on the XR18, but not 100%.
You have to lose at least one channel on the XR18 to take it from being connected to a mic pre (or other bus) and switch it to your reverb.
So, let's assume you're not using channel 16 on the XR18. So in the routing (In/Out) and then in the Ultranet tab you need to move Ultranet 16 circle in the graph to your reverb.
Did you get that far already?
Now we're at the part where I really need a P16 in front of me to test. Let's say your reverb is in the FX rack in slot 1.
If the section marked FX is the FX Returns, then you need to move that circle from channel to FX 1L.
It's possible though that it should/could be EFFECT 1.
Either way that happens to be correct, you still need to turn the FX send up on the channel(s) you want reverb on. Example: Vocal 1, bring up FX1 bus to bring the verb up on the channel.
And make sure the FX Return (and FX Send) #1 faders are up (unity for now... tweak if need be later).
Now, on the P16 when you bring up channel 16 you should hear your reverb.
If you DON'T want that reverb in the house, then select the FX Return for FX1 (or whatever one you end up using, but that is the one we're using in this example)... and in the MAIN tab of the selected channel (FX1 return), DE-select L-R. You would want it grayed out to remove the reverb from the house.
Now, I know I only selected 1L in the Ultranet routing tab. That was so you could only burn one of your mic channels to replace it with a reverb line on the P16. So you'd get mono reverb and you'd use the PAN control on the P16 (ch 16) to pan it to the center.
You could burn two inputs on the XR18 if you don't use them and move, say 15 and 16 to FX 1L and FX 1R and pan them left and right on the P16.... and I believe that is all you need to do to get stereo verb to you P16.
But... like I said... I don't have a P16 here to connect to the XR18 and double check all of this. Although, it has to be close to this. If I'm missing something, hopefully I still managed to get you the piece of the puzzle you were missing. ;)
@@AlanHamiltonAudio Hi I really appreciate this but I’m still stuck as I’m still very new to digital mixing. I’m a musician actually who has the time now to meddle and learn about this subject.
I currently do have Channels 15 and 16 free to use.
I think I’ve managed to do the first step in the in/out page where FX 1L and 1R are circled with Ultranet 15 and 16.
My vocals are on channel 1,2,3 and these are where I need the reverbs to be at.
Could you guide me as much as possible on the next steps ? Sorry
@@nickhideki Have you watched this video (link at the bottom of this post)? I think some of the signal flow discussion in it might help you visualize what is going on.
What FX do you have in each slot of your XR18 FX Rack and which reverb are you wanting to send to the P16? That way I can kind of describe things from that POV.
th-cam.com/video/dCTcbV-_ccQ/w-d-xo.html
@@AlanHamiltonAudio hi yes I’ve just watched it, awesome video.
The thing is, on my main LR, my FXs are all there and nicely balanced. I’ve done several recordings so far and they’ve been great so far over the last few months.
I’ve stereo-linked my 6 aux into 3 stereo iem channels that are sent to my HM400 headphone amp; and there’re no issues there too, my FXs are intact and working well.
With the P16M which I’ve just purchased a week ago, I can’t seem to understand how to “insert” these FXs or at least follow the Main LR mix ( I just need one, the reverb ) .It’s currently bone dry
FX1 - Rich Plate Reverb
FX2 - stereo delay
FX 3 - Dual leisure compressor
FX4 - Precision Limiter
I see the Midas MR18 and Behringer XR18 look very much alike and Behringer says it has the Midas preamps inside. Midas is a little bit more expensive. What are the main differences? Built quality? Sound? Features? Is it worth paying the extra for Midas?
I would say the main difference is the preamps. Between the X32 and an M32 there is some build quality differences with better faders for one thing. And aesthetics and ergonomics. But the XR vs MR doesn't have that. No faders and same basic design with them.
I guess the MR18 also uses Neutrik branded connectors but there's nothing wrong with the connectors that the XR18 has. IIRC, the MR might use locking connectors while I know the XR18 doesn't have locking connectors, but I don't really have an issue with non-locking connectors.
But it really depends on what you're doing with it... it's not like the preamps in the XR18 are bad. If money is no object, then get the MR18, but if bang for the buck is the object, get the XR18. The XR18 is certainly more than good enough, and for live work, unless you have a premium sound system and/or play in quiet venues where subtle differences can really be heard, then the audio differences are likely negated anyway.
If you're recording, then that might swing things the other way, but whether anyone but yourself would notice the difference in a recorded mix between the two products would be debatable.
There used to be a 10yr warranty on the MR18 which added to the value, but it's the same 3 yr warranty now.
The main two differences are that the behringer XR18 has MIDAS designed preamps (capturing audio at a sample rate of 48kHz) and the Midas MR18 has superior MIDAS Pro preamps (capturing audio at a sample rate of 96kHz). The Midas MR18 also has locking XLR connectors which the behringer XR18 does not. Aesthetically, they are almost identical.
Alan, our church sound tech is using Bus 1 for the live stream on TH-cam. I'm using Bus 6 for my in-ear electric guitar monitor, mixing with the app. We want to add in ear wireless monitors for 5 other folks that they can mix individually. We're short 1 Aux feed. Can we take a mixable feed from another source instead of Aux/Bus 1? The stream needs a different mix than FOH. Thanks (too bad the X18 can be slaved to another X18!)
I can't think of any way under the current situation that you have, although if you're not adverse to buying another XR18 and an analog splitter, you could run one XR18 as a dedicated monitor console and the other as FOH. So the FOH one could feed mains and your stream, while the other, acting as a dedicated monitor console could feed 6 mono monitor mixes AND a stereo mix via the L-R (since the other XR18 would be handling the mains).
I just made a video about packaging such a system last week, and am working on a video for this week talking about the settings in an XR18 (or MR18) for being a dedicated monitor console.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio Thanks for this. Trying to work out the most cost effective IEM solution for the rest of the band. We use a Bose system (powered mains). Could one of the main outputs be used as the source for the stream and then run mono for the FOH. Oh wait, both mains share the same EQ, don't they? Looks like the Aux out is the only option unless we go with a second X18.
@@stevelamm2366 You answered your own question... ;)
Yes, the main EQ is shared L and R.
And the X32 doesn't have matrix out like the X32... With the X32 you could tap the mains pre-EQ and send that feed to a matrix.
Use the Ultralink PM16. You'd need to install a cat5 LAN to run it over but once that's done, its all gravy. Replace the AUX sends with a personal mixer, job done.
One more question, just want to ask, is it possible to control it using 2 Computer? 1 for Front of house and 1 for live streaming?
The control software doesn't use much horsepower, so assuming your computer isn't already at its limit just running the streaming, you should be fine.
Yes, XR18 will accept control from several devices. Each device may have full access or be restricted to 1 aux output (2 if stereo linked?). The idea is that a competent band member (hahaaaaaa) can run thier own monitor mix, but not mess with FoH.
Alan - Doing a live band and DJ event w/XR-18. Do I need 2 laptops or can I toggle back and forth between them?
You can toggle back and forth within one laptop.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio Thanks!
Concerned about it crashing my laptop.
@@larrycoffey806 Shouldn't be a problem unless your laptop is really old.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio 👍
hey im searching for the polarity knob on the x touch to controll the x air, somebody got a idea?
I've not got an X-Touch so no idea... But hopefully someone sees this and chimes in with the answer.
Thats what i Hope so 😌👌
How many channel can be used in a DAW for a multitrack sir?
18. All 16 mic pres can be used as well as the 2 channels of the stereo Aux in. All can be configured for In or Out (to and from DAW).
Please excuse my newbie question: if there are 18 USB output channels from the DAW but only 8 physical output ports, does that mean that you would mix the 18 signals internally only, and could only send to the 8 physical output ports? There’s no way to get 18 channels from the daw to 18 physical outputs, correct?
Do you have any videos or experience using the Xr18 with an x32?
Using it together how? I've worked shows where an XR18 was the monitor console with an analog split to an X32.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio I thought I read somewhere you can use it to take in inputs and send outputs much like a stage box,
@@JoshuaJayVlogs Oh.... No, it won't work that way. It doesn't have AES50 connectivity so can't be used as a stage box.
You can use it as a dedicated monitor console, but it requires an analog splitter to connect the stage inputs with the two consoles.
th-cam.com/video/xT9gTBFxvZk/w-d-xo.html
Im the guy who had the internal wifi fail in the middle of a gig. dead. Flipping the ethernet switch back to wired then wifi will restart and buy you a few minutes. but Def get an external access point!
It's unfortunately inevitable.
So all the output channels including monitors are xlr? Our in ear systems all have 1/4 inch ins and outs. What would be the best way to convert those?
The quick answer is XLR to TRS cables.
th-cam.com/video/SFzPh3UYAoE/w-d-xo.html
But the quick answer might be wrong... especially if your IEM inputs are UNBALANCED stereo inputs. Are your IEMS stereo or mono?
I know this video is talking about an MP3 player, but IF your IEMs are unbalanced stereo inputs with 1/4" TRS inputs, then you can't just use an XLR-F to 1/4" TRS cable from say Aux 1 out into your ears. It would be the same problem scenario as this video talks about:
th-cam.com/video/UiauwFEFe_k/w-d-xo.html
Not that there's still not a way... it's just not as simple...
@@AlanHamiltonAudio Hmm Im not sure if the inputs on our wireless IEMs are balanced or not. Its a Phenyx Pro unit. It transmits on 2 channels, each channel has left and right 1/4 inch inputs.
@@deepmountaingrass Im on my laptop that is slow... on slow internet at a hotel... But if you lok thru my videos..not too far back... I have a video with the Phenyx Pro Iems.... a demo of them. I'll never get the link copied and pasted, but just look back a few vids and you should see it
@@AlanHamiltonAudio Got it. thanks. So powered speakers are the only option with this? You can't use a power amp with it and non-powered speakers?
@Alan Hamilton Audio Hello :) i use XR16, and i use wi-fi access point and connect by the laptop wi-fi. And i have problem on live concert, maybe 40 people in the room, and X-AIR app on pc was crashing, many many times, how fix this ;//
Were you using the built in wifi on the XR16?
@@AlanHamiltonAudio
Thank for your answer, yes i use built wifi in XR16, but app on pc not show lost connection, it suddenly crash and mouse stop, after this i must restart pc. I have router Netgear, i connect to ethernet and connect by wi-fi from laptop, i want check this on next concert.
So only bass or acoustic into the 1st 2 inputs? Why not electric guitar?
You can... if you're running direct and/or maybe using the guitar amp sim. Or just want that bone-clean guitar signal. Or keys too for that matter. Most guitar players don't want that super clean sound whereas that's not always the case with acoustic or bass guitar. But you definitely can do that.
And beyond that, we're talking mainly live audio, but someone could record that clean guitar to reamp it later.
cheers Alan
Why my xair 18 if power there big noise come out to my speaker how woud ido to i open smooth wihout power of my speakers
Is it just a "pop" sound? That would be normal, but you should turn on the mixer first, amps/speakers last so they don't amplify the pop. And then amps/speakers OFF first so they don't amplify that pop. If it's a different kind of noise, something sustained, then it could be a hardware problem.
Can I do piano LR through aux 17/18? So they can be stereo ?
The quick answer is yes.
The caveats are to make sure you're using instrument cable and not speaker cable, and to keep the instrument cable lengths to a reasonable amount. IOW, not trying to run the key lines 40'-50'-75'-100' with instrument cable. 10-20' is perfectly fine. And you can probably get away with 30'. After that it definitely gets questionable because of noise that is picked up by the unbalanced lines (and maybe even at that 30' point it could be questionable). If you do need to run long lengths, that's where a DI (or two DIs or a stereo DI) and the XLR channels and preamps come into play. You can stereo link the XLR channels with the odd numbered channel being first, so there's an easy way to do stereo without using the AUX in. But as long as you don't get tripped up by the caveats, then the Aux In channels can certainly work as well.
These two video talk about instrument cables and DIs:
th-cam.com/video/wO7QLLrYEgk/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/6iwW5_Ia9Uc/w-d-xo.html
How do we use effects like reverb with ultranet p16?
I don't have a P16 so no way to demonstrate but essentially you need to go into the X-Air routing for the Ultranet and take one of the sends and assign it to an FX return. There are some other (less conventional) ways... like assigning the FX to go to a subgroup and assigning the subgroup to L-R for you house FX plus in the Ultranet routing, changing one of the 16 ultranet sends to be from that same subgroup. That would let you capture multiple FX (like a delay and reverb) on just one ultranet channel.
Essentially, once you have the Ultranet routing in place, the rest of it works in the same basic manner as described for sending FX to monitors in this video (although this video not using Ultranet specifically so it's more just the concept of reverb to mons and how that works that you're seeing here):
th-cam.com/video/e_XsfTV36vU/w-d-xo.html
Does the Midas MR18 have any Hi-Z inputs?
Strangely enough, I don't think it does. I think that's just on the Behringer version. If you look at the manual for the MR18 it even shows a bass guitar connected to channel 1 via a DI box.
I don't have an MR18 to 100% confirm but that is what I think is the case if you look at specs and literature for it.
If you select pc to mixer how do you redo that option
You don't. Once you overwrite the 1 saved scene in the XR18, it's gone. Scenes are saved in the controlling device (like your tablet, iPad, computer...). But only when you initiate a SAVE. The XR18 just saves the current last state of the mixer... so as soon as you change the mixer, that is gone. So, PC to Mixer would be changing that former last state of the mixer. There's nothing to recall because it's gone.
Snippets are saved in the mixer, but not scenes. Except, like I said, the mixer always remembers the last state it was in until the operator makes a change.
Always a good idea to save your baseline scene in your controlling device, or save your most recent band scene for future reference (or backup) before shutting down the mixer.
And load Mixer to PC and save the scene to the PC before making changes (to avoid accidentally erasing an important show scene before saving it).
Question: Is the MR18 still in production or is it discontinued?
AFAIK, it was in a backorder situation due to the distribution changes, etc... And then back in stock (at least at Sweetwater), and now back out of stock again. I believe going forward, at least as far as major retailers, only Sweetwater and Amazon will be carrying them. ...Unless something is different with the Midas small mixer distribution chain and the Behringer distribution chain that I'm not aware of.
I'm pretty sure they haven't been discontinued though. But, you won't find them at sources where they used to be because of the US distribution changes.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio Much much thanks...
What happens exactly if the Wi-Fi turns off during the gig ? Or if my device turns off ? Will my MR18 still be working ?
+ thanks for the video !
Everything will be at whatever point the wifi dropped. So, your mix will be exactly what it was the moment before the wifi dropped. Sound still rolling along.
Which is good if you at least need to keep sound rolling...
Or bad if the channels are muted and the set is about to begin and the MC says "And now.... the band!!!" and you try and unmute and it's offline, and won't reconnect.
That's really the major bugaboo, it's not just that it will start losing connection when wifi traffic gets heavy, but that it won't always reconnect after it does lose signal. Or balk and take multiple tries. And once you're in that situation, it's probably not going to resolve itself until the cell traffic thins. So, constant disconnects, trouble reconnecting, and maybe not reconnecting at all.
Just about any other router will be more robust, and a dual band router, even more robust. And there will be ports so that you can even have a backup laptop connected at all times for redundancy if you want it. On the XR, you have to switch over to the laptop by switching off wifi, connect the ethernet cable, and go thru the routine of the laptop finding it and all of that.
Whereas, that laptop could be connected via hardwire and running all along, even with your wifi engaged too, with an external router.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio Thanks again ! Whouldn't à WEP password forbid the traffic and avoid blackout ? Or is the problem devices trying to connect ?
@@chrisvent7200 I think it's just the attempts, even if the router is responding with a "password?" reply.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio OK so I guess we'll set the mix before the gig like we always have. Thanks again for your channel and your quick answers : nice work !
Wow .... my brain hurts . 😂
I can connect the XR 18 to the Cubasis 3 DAW on my IPad, but the signal is distorted and sounds like talking in a tin can. ,
Have you compared clock settings between the DAW and the XR18? The XR18 can be 44.1K or 48K. Choose whichever one to match Cubasis... or the other way around.
Do you need to have powered speakers or is their power in this mixer?
No amp built into the mixer. You need powered speakers, or passive speakers and amp(s).
@@AlanHamiltonAudio Where would you connect a power amp?
@@deepmountaingrass to your power source
Curious question. Does the xair mixers have options to delay individual aux outs and the main output? I am going to be designing/installing a house system in a bowling alley and I will be setting up zones, but do not want latency issues, as I will be spacing small cabinets throughout the house for coverage but the subs will be only in 1 zone above the lanes but cover the whole house. The building isn't that large, but the owner wants the kind of quality sound like when I set up my PA for a show. The jukebox company's setup he doesn't like one bit.
I want to avoid having to have outboard dsp for each zone to keep them all in time/phase with each other as people move around the house.
You can load a delay effect into the FX rack (most people seem to use the pitch shift since it has delay on it and is dead simple to use and pitch shift itself can be set at zero) and then insert that into an output bus. Dual unit for independent or stereo unit for a stereo bus.
Unfortunately, that's the only way short of external devices... so if you have the FX rack filled with things you can't give up and need more busses delayed than you have slots, external is the only option.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio thank you for the response, it was incredibly helpful.
Just by looking at the antenna alone, I kinda figured the built-in router was GARBAGE 😂
Social media is littered with the posts of people who somehow thought they didn't need an external router. That they had somehow managed to figure out the perfect settings, or perfect setup, and they wouldn't have any problems with the internal wifi.
And then it happens... And it's usually always their biggest gig, so far, when it does. But it's because that is a perfect storm- More crowd, populated area, more 2.4G congestion... the recipe for problems!
The length of the antenna has nothing to do with its quality, if you made it longer it would be worse. It's calculated to 2.4GHz.
@@QrchackOfficial I'm not talking about the length. I'm talking about the fact that's it just built in
I have always used the built-in wifi, from small venuses to big ones, up to 4000 people, never had any problems. But maybe they will come 😳
You must not have anyone in your band using 2.4ghz wireless devices on stage. The internal wifi is 2.4ghz only and virtually all on-stage devices are using that frequency now. You *might* be okay if they are not using the same channel, but all you need is for ONE time where your connectivity is blocked by another device to cure you of using the internal wifi.
There's nothing quite like losing your connection to the mixer and it stays in "last known stage" right in the middle of a gig!
Get an external router and connect to the 5ghz wifi link. 100% solid.
I had similar experience, until... A band was ready for a sound check and XR decided to drop the connection. Fortunayely i quickly found someone Who lend me a router :) Always usinng one since then.
Hei, i am confuse to buy midas mr18 or behringer xr 18, because mr18 more expensive. Can you share how far difference sound quality betwen mr18 and xr 18, and pro and cons . Thankyou
It's such a subjective thing that it's really hard to say. First off, the XR18 doesn't sound bad, so it's not like with one mixer your PA won't sound good, and with the other it'll sound great.
It also matters the rooms you'll be playing in and the PA you'll be connecting to. The smaller the rooms, the more crowd noise, the smaller the PA, the less it's going to really be possible to hear the difference anyway. If you're using it for recording, you'll probably notice a bit more difference since that listening environment will make it easier to discern subtle differences. But that said, once the mix is done and people are listening on phones and cheap earpieces, they're probably not really going to hear the differences that you heard.
But then there's also the question of affordability... If you have the money and nothing else better to spend it on, if you get the MR18 you'll know you have the best of the two options and won't have to wonder about whether you should've gotten the MR18 if you would have purchased the XR18 instead.
OTOH, if money is tight, you'll be absolutely fine with the XR18. It's not going to hurt your sound and works perfectly fine as is.
We're really talking about subjective differences and not HUGE differences between the two consoles. I believe the MR uses different XLR connectors too (maybe locking?) but that has never really been an issue that would sway my decision.
The X32 vs M32 debate has a little more meat on the bone because the M32 adds upgraded faders and a different surface layout to the equation... But the XR18 and MR18 have no surface to upgrade or change.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio There's more than "subjective differences" between the two.
The Midas has locking XLR/TRS combo connectors, but at the cost of no Hi-Z inputs - if you plug in your bass direct, this means you now have to carry DI boxes and not just your mixer.
The output level is mildly higher on the Midas, your outputs can go +5dB compared to the Behringer, hardly a difference as these days most mixers and speakers do not have the problem of being too quiet, quite the opposite actually.
Midas has a different preamp design, similar to X32 vs M32, if you can hear the difference through a budget PA system (which is what you'd be using with a budget, $500 mixer that emphasises portability, rehearsal rooms and the like), then I applaud your golden ears. The audience won't be listening through audiophile headphones either, so... eh
Supposedly you can buy extended warranty to 5 years instead of just 3 years on the Midas, but I'm yet to find a person who actually did buy this.
Overall, the TLDR is you get locking XLR but you have to carry DI boxes, and you pay more for it. For me that's a pass, XR18 all the way.
@@QrchackOfficialthanks
Can I use one XLR AUX input to listen in stereo?
No, that won't work.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio Thanks for the answer, do you know how to solve this, since I play in a band with 5 people and all prefer stereo? (In Ear Mixes)
@@Maggot2767 You're in a "can't get there from here" predicament at the root, without spending more money. Even if you bought another XR18 and used one as a dedicated FOH mixer, used another with an analog splitter as a dedicated monitor console: th-cam.com/video/xT9gTBFxvZk/w-d-xo.html
...you'd still be limited to 4 stereo mixes:
th-cam.com/video/Zf83kolgVzk/w-d-xo.html
Obviously, you can feed a mono mix to both ears and fit five mixes on an XR18/MR18 and still mix FOH from that same mixer...
So, for stereo ears, the next thing to look at would be for each musician to have a Behringer P16M. Or at least 2 of the musicians, because once you have 2 musicians using the Behringer P16M via Ultralink (ethernet cable) then you could dedicate to the 6 aux outs on the XR18 to feed 3 stereo mixes (link the outputs (see the second video I linked above). You can only have 16 things in the P16M, so, for example, if you were using all 16 XLR inputs (and also wanted FX in the ears), you'd need to submix something so that it only took one channel of the P16. All drums for example.
And if you create a submix, you lose one of the 6 busses on the XR18... which then kills one of your stereo mixes FROM the XR18. Which would mean you'd need to add another P16. I'm not sure what the total number of P16M's is that you can have. Pretty sure it's easily more than 5.
Here's a link to the PDF from Behringer that I just Googled:
mediadl.musictribe.com/media/sys_master/h53/h6f/8849474715678.pdf
Do I need an Ipad or can I just use my Mac? Thanks
A Mac will work with X-Air Edit from Behringer/Midas or I believe Mixing Station also works on a Mac (I know it's available for iPad, PC, and Android so pretty sure it's available for Mac too).
@@AlanHamiltonAudio Thanks for the fast reply and advice!!
You need to update your Xair software. 1.5 is a few years old. :-)
Funny thing is, I have the newest version, and even the Midas version... but the desktop icon is 1.5 so 9 times out of 10 I'm just opening that one up.
It would take me about 10 secs to change that icon pointer! You'd think I could get that done LOL!
Fortunately, X-Air Edit stays graphically similar across updates. X-Edit for the X/M32 is wildly different from its original version.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio I've been snooping around your video's a bit more. You do a very decent job covering these mixers.
I use an X18 as my audio mixer for my home stereo, fed by 8 (analog) channels from my computer. I use the "main outs" for my "front left and right" and the "monitor sends" to feed my sub amp, the center channel and two rear surrounds.
I also use a couple channels on the mixer with my ham radio gear. It's unusual, but it works really well.
Feel free to remove this video if you like but it's an example of how I use x18. This was a stream I was doing while a pair of F18 pilots were flying over Oregon heading to Washington.
th-cam.com/video/vseRPddt_4A/w-d-xo.html
Is it compatible with M1 Mac Mini?
I don't have one to try, but I don't know why it wouldn't be once both pieces were configured.
Thanks Sir
One more question, just want to ask, is it possible to control it using 2 Computer? 1 for Front of house and 1 for live streaming?
How do you set up a powered Sub
It kind of depends on what sub, the options it has, your tops, and also what your end goal is. If you have matching subs and tops then likely there's an option connect to the cab(s), and daisy chain out while setting/enabling a built in crossover in the sub(s) and top(s).
OTOH, if you're going for something like Aux fed subs, then you'd connect differently, but still need to address crossover points somehow.
This video is about Aux Fed subs, but it also talks about the crossover issues and options you're likely to find on powered subs and the rest of your system:
th-cam.com/video/ZBXaR2W2E1I/w-d-xo.html
@@AlanHamiltonAudio
I use JBL eon612 and the sup are power works perfectly 112-5 They are both powered
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The Wifi on these things is so terrible. They should have either spent a little more to get it right or to just not include it.
Definitely not a 'feature' for use anywhere that the wifi is mission critical.
I use a separate wi-fi connected by ethernet. Works perfectlt
I've never had a problem with it....
It's issues can't be simple.
Might be that there is only 1 other wifi network nearby, and possibly that there are fewer than "normal" devices in range.
Perhaps it is poor management / performance when wifi channels overlap.
@@dougaltolan3017 That comes from using too old/cheap tech in it.
What’s with the solo button, if you hit it by accident it will ruin your day!
You must have it changed from its default setting or using something unintended (like your headphone out feeding a stream feed, house feed, monitor... etc... ). With the default setting the only thing that should happen when pressing SOLO is your headphones should be fed whatever you solo'ed so you can hear it by itself in the headphones and the SOLO meter should show you the solo'ed channel's (or bus') level. Stage monitors, house feed, XLR outs, etc. should not change.
My best guess as to what you might have going on-
On X-Air Edit, go to IN/OUT and tab over to MAIN OUT and make sure the MAIN is connected to MAIN L/R and not to Monitor.
On that graph that you see: Phones should be (by default) MONITOR (which is normally what you want) and Main should be Main L/R by default (which is again, normally what you want).
2:30 ...Dude, what did you do to that jack-cable? It looks like a used condom.
The heatshrink on it? That cable is probably at least 20 years old. It's definitely seen some gig duty.
My boomer head hurts.
LOL!