This video comes by way of a couple of video requests for the topic, and some perfect timing to do this video. For those that want to send stereo audio from their PC (or Mac for that matter) via USB to the XR18, this is the basic instruction set for that. LMK if there are any questions or video suggestions for future videos. Patreon- www.patreon.com/AlanHamiltonAudio Facebook- facebook.com/groups/livesoundproduction Amazon Affiliate Links- Behringer XR18 on Amazon: amzn.to/2LfTpmO Midas MR18 on Amazon: amzn.to/3q4Z4Li Stellar XT (Narration) Mic on Amazon: amzn.to/38xE7Tr 10' USB Cable on Amazon amzn.to/3sZRZxD Cat 5E (25') Cable on Amazon amzn.to/3pAkO1T Suggested videos: 5 Typical Mistakes Behringer X32 and Midas M32 Users Make: th-cam.com/video/tP7dO2Za6bw/w-d-xo.html 5 Typical Mistakes Behringer XR18 and Midas MR18 Users Make: th-cam.com/video/EilVDp39A9g/w-d-xo.html Connecting Reaper to an XR18 or MR18: th-cam.com/video/xYmJGyroVe0/w-d-xo.html How To EQ A Snare Drum: th-cam.com/video/gITnB0hQ9as/w-d-xo.html Five Tips For Better Live Vocal Mixes: th-cam.com/video/oP4sdpkkNhY/w-d-xo.html XR18 Tech Tutorial Playlist: th-cam.com/play/PLWtgwSNlxTjOt3tyG7cYXrmSleKXHlepj.html
I did everything step by step, but for some reason the level of the music is extremely low, and the channel is clipping and making awful noises. Downloaded the driver, changed the audio from the computer to 1-2 out (berhinger x18). Usb return to 1-2 (used the preset). As I said there is signal, just awful noise and clipping that isn't there when connected via aux cable to channels 17-18. I tried multiple usb cables, any idea what the issue might be? Thanks in advance
@@TheHassassian That is weird. There is a USB level in the channel control of X-Air for ch 17-18, but if you were hitting it too hard, it might sound bad... but it shouldn't be low. I'm assuming you rebooted the computer after installing the driver... Just in case it was something simple like that. It could be something like you BIOS needs updated on the computer or some BIOS setting, or something to do with mobo/USB drivers needing updated. In the Setup section, Audio/MIDI, you might switch from 48K to 44.1K clock rate... and reboot everything and see if that makes any difference.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio Hi Alan! Great video, but I have the same problems as Saro have with my MR18. I followed all the steps and I got the sound to work through without any problems, sound is good but it´s clipping, sounds like you put on an old dirty LP with scratches and you raise the volume until the scratches makes the signal to clip. I have tried 2 laptops and one iMac with the same result. I have switched the USB-cable, updated BIOS, changed the settings on USB-ports in BIOS, changed to 44,1 in the M18 setup. I did try to route manually but still... I have the same clipping noise on the Mains out aswell in the phones out when trying headphones. I have even tried both USB-drivers in the midasconsoles/downloads page. No difference. What do you think is the problem? Shall I just accept the problem and play music through 17/18 using 3,5mm stereo 2xmono tele to 17/18. Im worried if I will have a problem recording to reaper using the USB-interface, but I haven´t tried it yet.
@@jonnyedvardsson9608 I think it would be worth trying Reaper since it's free to try anyway, and see if the problem persists. Like you, I suspect it will. But maybe it won't. In either case, that is a bit more information to troubleshoot from and try and figure out what the problem might be. Besides that, in the Behringer/Midas SETUP (X-Air Edit/M-Air Edit) on the Audio/MIDI tab, you could try changing the USB interface to 2/2 from the normal 18/18. This then won't work for Reaper, but maybe some computers need it in this mode for stereo operation. Try that and report back if you can.
Thanks Allen! I have a new xr18 for church. I've been setting it up for quite some time now. Over the Christmas holiday I watched this video 100x until I got my pc to play through the xr18. One tip for others as this was my problem- when I downloaded the xr18 digital mixer software on their website I DID NOT select "drivers and devices " and my software did not work. Once I unistalled and then reinstalled I was able to see the behringer out 1 2 as a speaker option. With out drivers and devices selected I only saw "behringer xr18 speakers" or something like that. Anyway thanks for the videos I'll be absorbing them all!!
pulling my hair out yesterday because my routed audio stopped coming in and i couldn't figure out what i changed. turns out when i saved a routing preset it turned off the usb source button on each individual channel. I appreciate the video!
Just a note for Mac users, You can direct the system sound output to a specific mixer channel using the Audio MIDI Setup app, found in the Applications/Utilities folder. Make sure the Audio Device window is visible. Window > Show Audio Devices Select X18/XR18 (18 ins/ 18 outs) Click the Configure Speakers button Select the channel for Left and Right (17 and 18 for Aux) I use this to listen to NetFlix, TH-cam, Spotify etc. on the XR18 Aux channel through my desktop mains without interfering with my 1 and 2 input channels. Also works for virtual soundcheck from a DAW, which no doubt will be the subject of a new video. One further note, make sure that your Sound settings, in System Preferences > Sound, send Sound Effects to your Mac's Internal Speakers, otherwise every 'ping' will go through your mains. Great work Alan.
This is so good! When you keep going on with these kinds of clear explanations you might end up having created a versatile and very access able manual for the XR 18 in the end!
This was perfect... YOU ROCK! Lol . Seemed like everything I needed to know, can't wait to set this up. I believe that I was missing the USB to source in the channel input section🙏
Hello, Alan, and thank you for your great and concise tutorials! I would like to address a question, so excuse its redundancy and my foolishness in case; I'm new to live mixing and the XR/X18. As I see it, the XR/X18 is made for smaller sets and venues since it only has one output, 'main out'. My contractor (not an audio engineer at all, or anything like that) bought the X18 without thinking in advance of this 'issue'... well, it's not really an issue, but more of a personal quirk. We use it for a large hall that has 4 sets of speakers that are connected to 4 (iNUKE NU3000) amplifiers, so we're sending the same 'main out' signal to all those 4 stations, which seems pretty common and natural, but not 'exquisitely professional'. I would've liked to create 4 separate stereo mixes for each of those speaker sets, with different stereo widths, EQ curves and different compression settings, and the possibility to adjust the levels or turn off the speaker sets (depending on how big the audience is or other factors) independently, from the mixer, without tweaking the amp boxes themselves. So, I would've liked using a 'set and forget' approach for the amp boxes. To make it short, I want to use the X18 only as an audio interface and do all the mixing on my DAW. (Yes, I also have to pray to God that my computer will not crash or become unstable during a show!) The X18 offers me 6 aux outs which are, naturally, laid and engineered for monitoring; I would've wanted using these aux outs as the main speaker outs. My issue is that I cannot route the USB returns to these aux outs directly. I can only route them to the FX channels and then route the FX channels to the aux outs (pretty unpractical since I'm not sure I can turn the effects off for each of these FX channels). Another approach (the most common and go-to, actually) would be to set the USB returns to 6 regular channels (for 3 stereo mixes, separate from the main out) and then route those to aux outs, but that means I have to sacrifice 6 analog inputs (which I may need). I'm not sure if there's any way to insert separate USB channels (like, a channel 19, 20, 21 and so on), or hack into that somehow - that would be great. What would you suggest to be the most practical solution in this case? Using an ultranet box to get more outs? I will also need stage monitors or IEMs in a future, so definitely in need of more out ports for separate mixes. Thank you very much!
Hi there Alan, thanks for all your input. I use windows media player for FOH / interval music. can I get this to play from my x air 18 using the same laptop that x air edit is running on ? Very best regards from Pete in Auchtermuchty, Scotland.
Hi Alan, tks for all your videos. really useful as I own an XR18 (V1). Unfortunately, I face an issue considering the USB interface. I see only outputs 1-8 on the Windows sound control panel instead of 1-18. As a consequence, I can only have routing on USB I/O 1-8 from/to my DAW (BandLab Cakewalk). Any idea why only 1-8 ? (PS : XR18 firmware = 1.22 ; windows driver = 5.12.0). Any idea why ? Répondre
No. The XR18 is there... maybe not everywhere it should be though. X32 driver won't work. Go here: www.behringer.com/product.html?modelCode=P0BI8 On the right side of the screen, choose SOFTWARE Scroll down from the options that open up and you should see it. I just checked and it's working if you go to it that way.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio I actually broadened my search and found the correct driver. I downloaded it, but even after rebooting, my computer sounds are coming through the PA, but Spotify won't play when my settings are USB. I uninstalled and reinstalled it, same thing. I went back to my original settings and just used the stereo headphone cable in channels 17/18.
If you want/need stereo, then yes. If you have sep mono tracks, like vocal on one side and music on the other, then probably want mono for that. Or if the PA is mono using only the L or R output, that would be another reason to not pan them, though you could still link them in that case
Definitely should be able to. You'll have to work out your DAW routing so that you're sending your backing tracks to unused channels (unused by the live band) on the mixer.
I'm curious if you had figured this out since you asked here. I'm new to the XR18 and am in full-on "learning curve" about everything. I'm also wanting to send audio from my laptop to the mixer for break/fill music while also being able to record live shows to same laptop. (I'm using Studio One 6 as my DAW.)
@@DavidOxford606 here is how i do it. i send the tracks thru 15 and 16, then i disable the outputs on the other channels. that way they don't go to the PA. There's probably an easier way to do it but the tests i have done it seems to work.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio It's so hard to find thorough setup videos for the XR18. Even the manual that comes with the XR18 is quite vague when it comes to actually setting up the software. Your video helped me get everything up and running!
Hi, Alan.. I just purcahsed MR18 yesterday. I still can’t see any audio signal frim may Macbook even after I downloaded and intalled M-air edit (Mac) version. Should I plug router cable as well?
You need ethernet, whether cable or wireless for X Air Edit to work (connect with the mixer). USB is only for audio. So make sure your X-Air edit is actually controlling the mixer and you have a proper connection between the mixer and the computer. Maybe even with a mic and headphones in the mixer so you can test things are actually working and aren't in offline mode or something. Once you're sure the mixer is working and X-Air Edit is controlling the mixer (and you have sound in the headphones), then you can check your settings and make sure USB settings are set correctly and all of that. And at that point try for computer audio again. I don't have any Apple stuff so I don't know what potential settings might need to be checked there. Always try swapping USB cables, and for testing, use short cables so you have some margin of error on USB cable length limitations. Once you know it's working, you can try your longer cables since you have a point of reference that you know IS working.
Thanks for the great video Alan! I'm both rehearsing the band through our P.A. and monitors, as well as recording it in my basement. Is there a way to have the audio from my computer go out sends 5 & 6 but panned to stereo so I can sent it to my studio monitors?
If you link out 5 to 6 in the X-Air Edit software that should automatically pan those outputs. So you can make any 2 channels 'listen' to USB 1 and USB 2 via routing in the X-Air. For example the Aux In channels (17 and 18). Set those to listen to USB 1 and USB 2 (not analog in). Then just make sure to UNASSIGN those two channel from L-R and set the bus 5 and bus sends to unity on those two channels. Or set those two busses to "Subgroup" Also, in the output section, make sure that bus 5 and bus 6 are NOT assigned to the L-R. Then just connect your left monitor speaker to XLR out 5 and the right to XLR out 6. This video talks about input settings: th-cam.com/video/xPsSPK6RKzU/w-d-xo.html This video talks about output settings: th-cam.com/video/UNO-dACc7YY/w-d-xo.html And this video talks about connecting Reaper (DAW) to your X-Air: th-cam.com/video/xYmJGyroVe0/w-d-xo.html
you do the same steps if you want to send a click track when using it as IEM? I'm using ableton, but i would think that it dosn't matter what DAW you use...
Yes, essentially... although using a DAW and the Behringer ASIO driver gives you more options since you can send more tracks to the X-Air, and more options for the tracks to go different places. Of course, none of that really matters of you just have a click track you need to send to IEMs... But if you have a click track, a vocal track, and an instrument track (for example), then it would matter then... If you know your way around Ableton well enough, I have a Reaper to XR video, and you should be able to figure out the settings for Ableton from that. The XR settings would be the same basically, but obviously the Ableton and Reaper GUI and workflow is going to look different. th-cam.com/video/xYmJGyroVe0/w-d-xo.html
Hi, Alan. Excellent content on your channel. I'm also a Patreon subscriber and an XR18 newbie. I have a quick question: do you have a video that explains how to both play and record audio from a single laptop through the XR18? Specifically, I have a very small wedding coming up where I need to play music from a laptop (it's in a remote location so streaming is not an option) along with a few mics. I need to simultaneously record everything back to same laptop with my DAW (Studio One.) I'm sure this is mostly a routing issue, of which I'm admittedly still learning. If you have a video that deals with this, could you point me to it? Thanks for your time!
While there's not a video that speaks exactly to that per se', there is the XR18 to Reaper video- th-cam.com/video/xYmJGyroVe0/w-d-xo.html Routing concepts in the XR18 would be the same regardless of DAW. For Studio One though, you'll have to transfer the concepts from the shown Reaper routing/setup to however that needs to work for Studio One. So I 'think' the info is in that video on how to do what you're wanting to do... but it's not talking about exactly that concept. Still, it's a matter of playing back the tracks, the same as if you were in the studio, while playing along with and recording the new parts. You're just live as versus the studio. So this video we're commenting under doesn't really get into those concepts, while the Reaper to XR18 video does get more into that type of concept and routing.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio thank you very much! I will be checking out that video. I plan to set up the mixer here at home and do some trialing of this process, and I'm sure your video will be helpful. Cheers!
Hi was also thinking about this. Initially I thought the Mains out can only be assigned to USB OR physical mains out but nope luckily its separate so meaning can record and play to audience at the same time.
Thank You Alan for the tutorial. I followed it and it is working. A question. I like to play along songs coming this way from my computer. What's the best way to mix the drums with the music? Intending balancing volumes etc. I have my headphones in the headphones input on XR18 but it seems not the best to me. Thanks
Make sure your gain structure is correct on all of your inputs before you do any real EQ or adding compression, gates, etc... And then make the first thing you add a HPF (low cut). If you haven't watched this video on gain structure, I'd recommend checking it out. th-cam.com/video/dM8aYehOTyI/w-d-xo.html What problem are you having?
Hey Alan, How would you do this with a Talkback Mic. For example; I am using all 16 inputs for the band (Aux or 17&18 is being used for Click/MD). I am using FX1 for Vocal Reverb and FX2 for Instrument Reverb, but I would like to use FX3 as my music/playback feed and FX4 as a Talkback feed (not going through FOH). I will have a 2 input channel Audio interface plugged into the same laptop which will have both the playback feed and microphone plugged into it. How do I then route these to the two FX returns?
Hello Alan, great video!! I've got a question, can you help me please? How routing stereo iPad audio (example Spotify) for playback through the Behringer XR18?
Hi. I hope you can help me. I have the driver installed, but my computer won't recognize the usb. However if I unplug and the plug the XR18 back into the wall it will recognize it. But once I try to use OBS or even any audio program like Windows media etc it will go to generic USB and the driver info will say device disconnected. Very frustrated...
It should work... It's hard to say what might be going on with the PC. I'd definitely try a different USB cable just to rule that out... Obviously, reinstall the drivers and make sure you're loading XR18 USB audio drivers and not something else, nor X32 versions. Reboot the computer. Other ideas might be loading an older version of the drivers first and seeing if those work...
@@AlanHamiltonAudio I tried different cables, another pc laptop, and a Mac computer. None of them recognize the XR18. I'm assuming it's the Behringer now. I'll be calling customer service soon..
I don't have an XR12 but I think it's not... I think the XR12 just has a slot for a USB stick, but no way to talk thru USB to a PC/Mac. Maybe someone will confirm or correct me here to be 100% sure.
I would like to know also because I'm interested in purchasing an XR12. The Behringer downloads page suggests that this is possible, but I don't know anyone who has tried it.
Hi Alan - I have a little tricky question. I use XR18 in stage box for in-ear monitoring of four member band. We have a backing track, which we get to our ears in three different inputs. 14, 15, 16. Drums, Bass and Chords. It should be better to sound engineer for balance these three tracks during a live show. But - I dont know how to set up my MR18 to get these three tracks to sound engineer mixer. I suppose that I cannot change input to output despite fact that I have three tracks I can operate in Xair app as a standart inputs. We have this set-up: Instruments > Splitter 1 Splitter output is return to sound engineer mixer 2 Splitter output is connect to MR18 inputs MR18 Auxes > in-ear system Could you help me with this setting? I know that is working - I copied this rack and setting from fellow band which is performing with that, but I cannot get a answer how they have it set-up. Thank you Jiri
Is there a video for setting up permissions for musicians to access only their mix? Something that doesn't discuss general monitor mix set up...just permissions only.
@AlanHamiltonAudio ... I think it would be great to make a video about that... A scenario where you're the sound guy, you just finished setting up and tuning your rig in a bar, and now musicians are starting to show up. A walk through of getting them going with the app (if they dont have it already), and setting permissions.
So, an xr 16 without the USB-b port, and just a usb-a port, does this mixer not communicate with the PC? Does it just record to a flash drive and that's it? I'm under the impression that the xr16 will have the same functions as an xr18, but mine has a different usb port and after updating firmware and loading drivers my pc does not see the I/O from the usb.
@@travishanson166 Good news is you figured out the issue... bad news is you figured out that is a difference between the XR18 and XR16. :( I just saw your question and was about to answer.
For livestream sound - we use the USB options feed which has a great sound when using a mic however when I try and use a IPAD for auto to pack them up the sound is very choppy and not fully coming through. Any suggestion
can i use the xr18 or mr18 as a line mixer and routing the sum into a Motu M4 or another Audio Interface ? Or can I do this by creating with the Editor Software an Aux Out and feed this signal to a dedicated Audio Interface. I use PC Win 10. thnx for thid vid and for a reply ,)
You can use the XR18 or MR18 itself as an 18x18 audio interface (via USB) so you wouldn't need to use another interface to get into a DAW. It can be your USB audio interface itself. You just need to DL and install drivers for PC (Mac doesn't need drivers), select the 18/18 option in the Setup tab of the X-Air unit, and then setup your DAW by choosing the Behringer as your interface. So no additional hardware is needed if that is what you are wanting to do.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio Thks for the info. My intension is to use another audio interfacr like Motu M4 or SSL2+ as they have a low latency, which I need to use my VST plugins (FX and Synths, Drummachines). I think the Midas MR do not have a good latency and AD/DA converters as above mentioned interfaces. I don't want to spend 1600.00 for a Motu 16A which is my favourite AI.
Yes. IIRC a standard USB 2.0 cable (which the USB is 2.0) is a max of approx 15'. There are 'amplified' USB cables that can be used to extend the distance, but I've never tried one. Generally, you want to use as short of a USB cable as practical just to give yourself a margin for error. But this is true of any USB2.0 device, not just the XR18 and a laptop running a DAW.
Is there a way to send audio out of a pc USB port? Using a behringer 4 channels interface connected to pc but I want to send digital audio thru usb rather than analog ports on interface. Hope you can help. Thanks
@@AlanHamiltonAudio yes. The situation is: I have a mevo camera that only allows usb audio input and I want to control the input thru the pc using a virtual mixer then try to fool the cameras input sending audio thru usb on the laptop. The goal is to use pluggings etc and better audio quality.
@@noelbulls8628 Let me do some research tonight. I'm almost positive it would and would work similar to the XR18 as far as that goes, but I don't own that 4 channel interface so can't say I've ever done it.
@@noelbulls8628 The camera is the wildcard in this. Audio in and out of the Behringer UMC to the PC, and from the PC back to the UMC, shouldn't be an issue.. but whether you can then send that audio to the camera via another computer USB... I don't know. Everytime I think of something, I think of a question/issue that I don't have a way to check.
Yes, assuming I'm understanding you. It would have more to do with your DAW and settings there than the XR18. The XR18 has a full 18x18 grid of USB returns in the In/Out routing section. And any channel can be connected to the front panel inputs OR listening to USB for its signal. The XR18 even lets you move those around so you don't have to be connected 1 to 1 with the tracks in your DAW. IOW, your tracks could be 1-8, and your DAW outputting them to USB 1-8... And the XR18 could be set to have CHANNELS 9-16 listening to USB1-8. I've got this video for Reaper and the XR18. It does talk about how to setup Reaper for things like this when it's the DAW in question. I'm sure the DAW info translates in many ways, but it would still come down to knowing how to rout your particular DAW and the routines necessary. So even if you're not using Reaper, I think this video will be helpful for info on concepts for the DAW that you'll be looking for, and regardless of DAW, the XR18/MR18 settings will be the same. th-cam.com/video/xYmJGyroVe0/w-d-xo.html
Hi Alan. Great channel. When im set up i get some interference. I suspect the cable. Is there one you recommend. Im running about 20feet. Thanks and keep up the good work.
I could be 20' is just too long. I think 16' is the max USB cable length for USB2.0. And I imagine some cables can't even do that reliably. If you can't go shorter, I'd look into a USB repeater cable of some kind.
Hi Alan, Thnx for the great channel with all the clear explanations! I have a little 'custom question' My band is working with backing tracks, which by itsself is no problem wat all. Howeverf , we want tot use 'custom clicktracks' over the busses. The drummer and guitarplayer want a full clicktrack on their IEM's and the singer and bassplayer want a custom track, only consisting of an intro click of 2 bars and several spoken count-ins/reminders at crucials parts of the songs. I divided these over two tracks in our DAW (Cubase) that play completely synchronous with the backing track. Now I want to route these three tracks in a proper way.: Backing track to both IEM's and the FOH (FOH has it's own signal through a splitter box, IEM's go through the XR18 which has it's own signal through the same spliitter box). The remaning signals are IEM-only and I want to to use the FX return 3 and 4 to bring them into the IEM mix (over USB) so we can use all analog channels for the band itself. What would be the proper way to setup the routing? The XR18 is a brilliant device but setting up the routing can be a little daunting time to time 😀
Well, I think I could probably sort it out if it was all sitting in front of me, but I'm a bit lost trying to figure it out as you've written it. That's pretty complicated ;) I gather that you are using all the analog channels for band inputs and can't just use a couple of those inputs for the click tracks?
@@AlanHamiltonAudio That's exactly what it is. All analog channels are taken, as are 2 of 4 FX returns. We are looking to use the 2 remaining FX returns for clicktracks, one of which is used by all 4 of us, and one of which is used by our drummer and guitar player only. To be complete: One of the analog channels is used as USB and processes the backing track that also goes to FOH What we need to do in short : We need to route 3 tracks from Presonus Studio One to three tracks in the XR18. The backing track itself to an analog track and separate clicktracks to the FX3 and FX4 returns (for IEM-only) Hope I made it a little clearer 😀
Hello Alan, I just recently purchased a midas mr18 but when I send PC audio over usb (to any channel it doesn't matter) it keeps crackling and clipping. I have redownloaded the drivers and made sure that i am on the latest firmware but nothing helps. Do you have any idea why ?
You might try downloading an older set of drivers and see if that makes any difference. Try a different USB cable. Do you have a different computer to test with? Maybe connect the MR18 to a different computer and see if that changes anything. Someone, either in this thread or the Reaper to XR18 thread had an issue connecting via USB and turned out to be a hardware issue with the XR/MR18. I don't recall if they couldn't couldn't connect at all, or got issues like you're experiencing. If you can connect to another computer with no issues, that would at least seemingly rule out a problem with the MR18 in this case. I suppose you could DL Reaper and give it a try to see if it somehow works when connecting to your computer, which then also could eliminate the MR18 as being a problem and at least send you back to your computer looking for a driver conflict or computer BIOS upgrade or BIOS setting that needs changed. But if that's the case, there's no guarantee that Reaper would work thru it either... but it might. It would be worth a try I'd think. Reaper to XR/MR18 video- th-cam.com/video/xYmJGyroVe0/w-d-xo.html
@@samroney6644 Yes, that's a good point. I assumed he wasn't seeing clipping on the meters, but I probably shouldn't have assumed that and should've mentioned to check that. I jumped a step ahead.
It can definitely be done but if you're bringing the click and trax in digitally, then you're going to want to do it all from within a DAW. And you're really going to have think about your routing, track arming, pre-recorded tracks, tracks that will be recording live, and loading the pre-recorded tracks and songlist order. I have this video about connecting to Reaper: th-cam.com/video/xYmJGyroVe0/w-d-xo.html I think you'd probably find it easier to feed the tracks and click via a Wave player (or MP3 player), or laptop using the analog (headphone out), or connected to its own interface and feeding the XR with an analog signal(s).... While recording everything separately via USB in an entirely different laptop.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio got a few time signatures in all of the songs, i would think that dont matter as long as you got a click to get you from A to B, or does it matter when using backing tracks? never used backing tracks before, but now we need them. would it be a bood idea to have the clock follow the time signatures then?
Our band uses a designated router for the 18xr but would like to run Playlists from Amazon music on the pc during breaks. However, this requires hooking up to a different wifi network. Is there an option to stream music online while staying on our router?
I’ve tried everything you’ve suggested in the comments as well. I get sound from my daw and can route those tracks easily but no sound at all from my pc with a TH-cam video playing in the background and switching back and forth between each suggestion, still crickets. Do you offer teamviewer sessions or anything where I can pay you to try and troubleshoot it??
I'm not really sure what it could be... Bad USB cable? Too long of a USB cable? BIOS settings in the computer? Computer gremlin? Did you try reloading drivers? Try older drivers? I'm not sure if there are any newer drivers now than when I made the video but it wouldn't hurt to check. Of course Mac doesn't need drivers. Firmware update? If you're getting partial connectivity from the DAW, then that would seem to rule out a USB cable, though I'd still change it just to see what happens.
Man I am in the same boat! I have tried with 3 different laptops, spent 6 hours on Sweetwater and this is what I have discovered so far. 1. AMD, no good...the processor simply doesn't work with the Behringer drivers. I have tried 2 different XR18's with same issue. Now with my intel inside PC laptop I am able to record and get great sound except it is not playing anything I record back through the XR18. I am now calling SW again with this issue to determine if this just isn't the device for me. I currently have a Tascam US-1800 that does a great job for recording several tracks simultaneously, but it doesn't have the bells and whistles and extra features that I was hoping to take advantage of with the XR18. I will update this post as soon as I have tried to get help through Sweetwater!! I am wondering if it just a driver issue that Behringer needs to fix/update.
Hey there - deeply appreciate the videos! I just got a Midas MR18 and I have it configured and routed (or so I believe) - I can get clean electric guitar sound through my monitors but anytime I run my computer audio through the MR18 I get continuous popping through my studio speakers no matter what gain I set it to? Any way around this? Obv mixer isn't broken or I couldn't get clean unphased guitar tone, but definitely need clean computer audio as well for what I use it for
It sounds like maybe a bad USB cable, or one that doesn't get along with the MR18 for whatever reason, or a clocking issue. Is it a Mac or Windows computer? Are you using it for recording and bringing your recorded tracks in and out of the MR18, or just trying to play backing tracks via USB for live performances?
@@AlanHamiltonAudio Yeah just tested it running my Helix into Midas and it sounded heavenly - so the mixer to speaker connection isn't the problem. Whenever I play back audio on it there's frequent clicking and popping to the point of I-wouldn't-use-this no matter what the gain is What is a good USB cable you'd recommend? I am using some cheap 15ft Amazon cable, also using some cheap ethernet cable (saw someone said this has to be shielded, idk if true) but I don't think ethernet would result in playback issues I have a Focusrite Scarlett 8i6 I have been using and it gives me no problems whatsoever with anything so I imagine this should work it's just user error
@@AlanHamiltonAudio it was indeed a crappy USB cable - just swapped out for another and worked like a charm! Thank goodness haha because wiring this all took about three hours
Hi Alan, is it possible to record on Ableton Live a signal that comes to me via USB from iTunes via the mixer?That is, I get a signal via USB into the mixer and I want to record that signal on a dedicated channel on Ableton Live. Thank you 😊
I have this video linked below for the XR18 and OBS, but if you aren't using OBS, the part about mixing for the stream still applies regardless of your software for streaming: th-cam.com/video/aNlBOOhWbZw/w-d-xo.html
Hello! Could you help me? When I select OUT 1-2 in Windows, nothing can be heard through the headphones, what configuration am I missing? I already installed the drivers and in the Daw and xair app you can hear through the headphones but when I play youtube, for example, no.
Hi Alan, thank you again great stuff. For the XR16 IO am trying to record and playback from the USb via a memory stick, I have tried both formats (FAT and NTFS) but the X air doesn't seem to see the drive, is there a specific size that the usb can read I tries with a 256GB USB stick for example., There is nothing around explaining this. I press record and the red light flashes and goes of and the list does not show any wav files there.
You do have to wait after stopping the recording for the X-Air to finalize the recording... But it sounds like you're doing that if you see the USB light go off before you pull the stick. Other than that, the X32 can be finicky about USB drives, so I imagine the X-Air uses the same circuitry so you might try another brand stick, or just another stick in general and see how that goes. I've had good luck with PNY. Pretty sure Sansdisk has always worked for me too. I see one Sansdisk here that I've used on the X32 and it's a 64G Cuzer.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio Thanks Alan, it seems the current range only handles USB 2.0 and up to 64GB, I got it workign with them, yes they are finicky for sure
I'm thinking the X12 and 16 can only do stereo 'out' to a USB stick and doesn't have a full-featured USB connection for digital audio back and forth over USB.
Can you route an input into the DAW and receive output at the same time? For example, could I plug a guitar into input 1 on the xr18, route it through Guitar Rig on the computer and then back out from the xr18? Thanks in advance. I’m learning a lot from your channel.
Thank you for this! When I connected the sounds this way, it took away my sound coming into the xr18 by usb. Does usb only work one way at a time or does it use them together?
If the subs are on something like bux 6, does the usb signal have to be routed there as well for the bass frequencies to come through properly as well? Sorry if this is a dumb question, new to all this.
Yes, in that case the low freq content would need a path to the subs... so in your example, bus 6 would need to be turned up on the channel(s) receiving the USB signal to then send signal to the subs.
One quick question. We're using K12 speakers with the Ksub. Would it be easier to just do the daisy chain from each speaker into inputs A and B of the sub to save bus space for an IEM mix? Seems like you would have less control but it's a tradeoff if you need the extra bus I suppose. Also, thank you so much for these videos. Incredibly helpful.
@@PocketDelicious Definitely... IMO if you need an extra mix it's better to skip aux-fed subs and have the extra mix (vs having to compromise and share a mix somewhere in order to preserve a bus for the aux-fed subs).
Hello Alan, Can I route multiple sources from my computer to different channels on XAir or is Out 1-2 the only option ? For example : routing youtube to channel 1-2, a game to 3-4, another app to 5-6, then using the main output of XAir for a livestream. If you know of the GoXLR, that's the kind of setup I want to have.
I'm not really sure... The XR18 can do its part since it's got 18 USB in and outs... but whether different software packages can access it... Or what the workaround would be... I don't know. AFAIK, for example, unless something has changed, something like OBS is locked to only using USB 1 and USB 2. Since you can make any outputs on the XR18 be USB 1 and USB 2, then that works fine in that case... but for what you're wanting to do. I just have no idea.
Hi Alan, im using xr18 and I wanna set up ch17/18 as monitor output. Im doing your every step, I see the signal on my iPad and Mac but I can't hear anything. Im sure about my cables and the monitors all of it works. I don't understand why it is not working im gonna crazy !
I hate sending you to another video, but if you're seeing signal there must be something in your configuration that is misconfigured. Possibly routing. DCA assignments? See if anything from the Channel Walk-Thru video is being missed in your signal path: th-cam.com/video/xPsSPK6RKzU/w-d-xo.html
Hello sir,seems like there is no way i can make this thing to work,i did exactly as you have said and it is impossible for me to get any signal from my pc.I tried to play a very large track from youtube in hope to get some signal as i change the settings on XAIR the weird thing is that if i try to start music from winamp for example,winamp acts like it is completely dead doesnt start at all.I did everything as you have mentioned : I connected USB/Ethernet > USB 1-2 to AUX i still get no signal,i dont know what else to do,my speakers are connected to the MAINL/R is this a problem?
I'm not really sure. It SHOULD work if you're following the instructions exactly as in the video. Have you tried with a different computer? I suppose you could need to make some BIOS level change/update on your computer... But I kind of doubt that.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio ok so i uninstalled the drivers and installed them again and everything seems to work..i guess my mistake was that i installed the drivers with the device closed at first time.
Hello. Is their a video somewhere to show me how to connect my xr-18 using x air for iPad, to my PC running Audacity? I’m confused on how to set my usb out….
I've not really tried Audacity for connecting to the XR18. I have a video about connecting an XR18/MR18 to Reaper DAW and on the XR18 side of things, the settings would be basically the same no matter what DAW was being used and it would be the DAW abilities and configuration that would be the wildcard. That video is here: th-cam.com/video/xYmJGyroVe0/w-d-xo.html
I have a question maybe you can answer. I have the routing set up for my PC to playback audio through the Aux 17/18 USB. However, when I am set up to record into reaper and USB is enabled, channels 1 and 2 are also getting input from the PC. I assume this is because windows is sending to those channels. Is there a way to send directly to 17/18 from windows and not 1 and 2 so that I'm not getting the PC over those inputs when recording?
I think what you're talking about has to do with Reaper's default USB outputs and its master outs... which can all be changed. See if this video explains what you're wanting to get done: th-cam.com/video/xYmJGyroVe0/w-d-xo.html
hi Alan. i have a question that can XR18 been recognized as mutil media output device? i need to output media from PC to XR18's input,but it needs to be mutil-device,such like in windows's Output have a "Speaker" and a "Earphones". in your video it seems only be recognized as one media device named "OUT 1-2". i need have mutil device in windows such as "OUT 1-2" and "OUT 3-4",can XR18 do this?or i still need other device? thanks!
At the bottom right corner of the screen where the speaker symbol is, if you click, normally x18 and xr18 offer you 4 pairs of stereo outputs,,, separated: Behringer OUT 1-2, Behringer out 3-4, 5-6, 7-8, listed as if there were 4 audio interfaces working simultaneously, at least thats what s happening in my case,,,so yes, practically it can be done,,,,if you see just out 1-2 at your list, im assuming you have the 2X2 interface checked at your x-air edit (although im not 100% sure), uncheck it and check 18X18, if thats not the case then try opening your sound devices from control panel, sound options, maybe they are listed there but hidden or disabled,,,, but it can be done for sure,,, hope it helps
Do i need to use the behringer app to upload the drivers? Do i just plug the ethernet cable in to download it? Then after open the mixer up? And can i use Mixing station? Thanks
That is strange. The USB connection should be the cleanest connection of all. If it's static, dropouts, that kind of thing, I'd suggest a new USB cable. The max length on a standard USB is only like 15' so shorter is better, and you definitely don't want to push it beyond that without looking into a powered USB cable. But if the audio is just muddy sounding, that can't be a USB issue. Obviously, the data is transferring. I'd look for any settings in the laptop audio that might be causing issues like an EQ engaged, or some type of 'spatial' settings, or something like being set for 4 speakers when it should just be stereo. Make sure the channel(s) you have the USB routed to don't have some kind of funky EQ dialed in (just disengage the EQ for testing)... no excessive low cut or hi cut dialed in.... Compression not engaged (or if you want some compression, make sure it's not excessively into gain reduction). Also, double check you don't have something unintended inserted on the USB channels (like a compressor or EQ, etc... and that is where the problem is coming from). And then, make sure there's not some accidental reverb/delay/chorus dialed up on the USB channel(s) muddying things up.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio I think it’s an issue with the headphone output or my headphone adapter (when it’s inserted all the way - it gets a overly compressed sound) but through the main speakers the USB music playback is clear.
Hello bro, great video, keep it up man:) I've got little problem, can you help me please? I still cannot detect my XR18 in the X Air Edit.. :( dunno why, cuz i downloaded driver you recomend and selected OUT 1-2 (behringer x-air) in windows audio settings. I got my X-Air 18 connected to pc by USB cable. Thank you for anykind of advice.
The first thing that comes to mind, and it might be how you worded the question and might not actually apply, is that you need two connections- USB only sends the audio signal and not the control signal. You need an Ethernet/wifi connection as well. Even if the same computer is sending the audio and also running X-Air Edit. X-Air Edit can't connect over USB. So the USB signal that Windows sees to know to show you OUT 1-2 as an option (X-Air) only means you're partially connected to the mixer. Your control software (X-Air Edit) will need to be connected either thru the Ethernet port or the Wifi.
Hi Allan, Thank you for this video. Can you please help me. What if the PC and the mixer are 70 meters away from each other. How do I connect them both with no problems in the connection?
70 meters makes things more difficult. I'd be using an analog connection myself as the first option in that case (if possible logistically). Computer/MP3 player (headphone out or USB External preamp) into stereo DI and mic lines (or Cat5 to XLR dongles) to stage. If for some reason, hardwiring wouldn't be practical, it's possible to use high quality RF. If mono is acceptable, a standard but quality wireless mic setup with a beltpack taking the audio player input and the receiver 70 meters away could work. My first choice would just be to hardwire it.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio Hi Alan. Thank you for the response. My mistake, I'm supposed to say 70 feet which is around 20 meters. Is it still advisable to hardwire it? There are existing active USB extension in the market which looks interesting.
@@lucyfreeman8777 Oh... 70' is much more doable than 70 meters :) . A passive USB cable won't do it, but I'd think an active USB cable would be OK. I think the spec for active extensions is around 150' so you shouldn't have trouble with 70 feet. That said, I've not tried it so I'm just working off published specs and anecdotal reports. But I've seen enough that I would try it and expect it to work... though I'd probably give it a dry run test before putting it in a mission critical application.
Hi, i am new in Midas mr18. what is the function of USB send ? I want to use midas mr18 as an interface to use Zoom classes and want to connect a few mics to communicate through zoom. Can you please assist here ? Thanks
You should be able to do that. Just change the USB (output) routing to match what Zoom wants... Probably USB1 and USB2 sending L-R to Zoom. I have a video about livestreaming with the XR18/MR18 and OBS here on the channel. I'm sure that info probably translates to the Zoom connections. th-cam.com/video/aNlBOOhWbZw/w-d-xo.html
Hi Alan, thanks so much for a great video but maybe you can help me, in xr 18 software it is picking up my xr 18 but when I click connect nothing happens. Any help ?
Hi Alan, I have followed your instructions but I am totally frustrated. I have downloaded the XR 18 app on my mac and I also have an I pad with the XR 18 app. I cannot get the XR 18 to recognize incoming sound from the USB in my mac to the XR 18. I have selected the output as "built" in in the mac drop down. When I go to the routing page in the XR 18 app on mac it looks like your demo page. When I click on (off Analogue) No other screen pops up but it does change to a slightly different color so I am not sure if it's doing anything. Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated, Thank You in advance for your time and consideration.
Hi sir! Just want to ask, can I use the stereo link using only 1 Cable? because I've tried using the stereo link but it's not picking up the audio on the "R" or right, is it possible to use that even If i only put 1 cable in the stereo?
For the analog input you need a TRS 1/8" for out of the computer to two 1/4" TS cable to connect it properly, get both sides, and not get any polarity issues. Like this: www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-3-5mm-6-35mm-Breakout/dp/B07PJTP7DR/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3IW4RFMAWGQQ4&dchild=1&keywords=1%2F8+trs+to+dual+1%2F4+ts+cable&qid=1632228596&sprefix=1%2F8%22+TRS+%2Caps%2C175&sr=8-3
The MR18 itself doesn't care (it has 18 USB inputs/outputs). So it would be up to the computer/software and your ability to change that. But as for how you'd do it, or if there are any additional software bits you could add that would allow you to make that change... I don't know. :( That said, you can always just soft patch USB 1 and USB 2 to be feeding some other channel(s) of the MR18 within the MR18 itself. So, for example, you could make the stereo Aux In channels (Channel 17-18) 'listen' to USB 1 and USB 2 (instead of their default USB 17 and USB 18). So if the goal is just not to have your USB audio coming into the console at CHANNELS 1 and 2... you CAN do that within the MR18 by just soft patching USB 1 and USB 2 to feed some other pair of channels.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio yup although using the USB AUX 1 - 2 given option would mean Channel 1 and 2 would be duplicating the audio. So I assume have to skip Analog 1 - 2 and start from 3 onwards if using laptop to play music via USB?
@@AKSKMY Channel 1 and Channel 2 could be set to something else... which if they get their signal from analog pres for example (front panel) then it already is something else in that case (analog 1 and analog 2). So, you could have channels 1-16 getting their inputs from the preamps, and channels 17-18 getting their signals from USB1 and USB2. So all channels could be used. Or however it worked out for you... Channels 1-8 could be analog inputs... channels 9-10 could be softpatched to USB1 and USB2... and 11-16 could be using the analog inputs... and 17-18 could be your MP3 player.
How can I remove the USB signal from the main output? I deselect the LR main stereo in the channel but sound is still going out. I am using a multitrack software on my pc assigned to channel 5 and 6
I'm not sure why you'd still have the signal going out if you deselected L-R from the channel(s)... UNLESS... you have one or more of your master monitor feeds (master bus feeds) set to go to the L-R by accident... and the channel(s) with your USB input is still sending to the monitors... and the master monitor send (or sends) is sending it to the house A similar scenario is described in this Top 5 FAQ video: th-cam.com/video/x9wciA2wFd0/w-d-xo.html If it's not that... then it's odd... You could probably stop it by going into the channel Config and changing the input on those channels from USB to analog. But stopping it that way, still means SOMETHING else has to be off... somewhere... I'm betting it's the monitor send or sends with one or more assigned to L-R. Check out the video link I posted above and see if you can track it down from that.
HI there. I'm having a USB issue. I'm connecting my MacBook to my mr18 with a usb cable and followed the steps to set it the aux 17/18 channel(s) but the signal coming from my Mac is incredible loud and is distorting the channel. I have lowered the usb gain to as low as it can go and it's not really made any difference. Any ideas or tips?? Thanks for all the vids, they've been a huge help.
I don't have a Mac so I'm pretty much lost on troubleshooting something like that. Sometimes, it's a problem I'm aware of and have some idea of where to point you that I've heard Mac people talk about. But this issue isn't one I've heard before. :(
@@AlanHamiltonAudio it was a firmware issue. Updated my mixer and all was good. thank you for the reply. I am wondering if you have any thoughts on the Midas 4816-O splitter.
@@smellytele9629 I think a lot of people that are getting it probably are getting it when they shouldn't. For a band that wants to have their own monitor console and send a split to a house rig, I think an analog splitter is the way to go. It just removes complications and variables from the situation. For a band that has their own FOH console AND Monitor console, traveling with their own FOH engineer, then it's a bit different answer. An analog splitter is just plain simple in function and has absolutely no impact between the two consoles as far as mixing goes. No matter what FOH or Mons would do, it won't change the other. The Midas splitter is operating in the digital domain, so any changes made on the monitor console's preamps will change the FOH mix. This means FOH can't do anything much until the band has set their channels onstage and is sure they won't be changing preamps. It's also a line output when the FOH operator will be expecting mic level outputs coming to FOH (since that is normally what they'd get from an analog split). That second part is not necessarily a dealbreaker, but it's still one extra thing to think about or be aware of. Plus, depending on the experience of whoever is at FOH, it can lead to 'surprises' even if you make it clear you're sending line level to FOH. Especially if the FOH engineer isn't following 'best practices' at FOH. If a band has their own dedicated FOH engineer, then a lot of the variables can be understood and sorted thru and planned for... So the Midas digital split makes a little more sense. It's definitely a cleaner connection and smaller footprint than a 16 channel analog splitter would be. But even then, the band needs to really understand what is going on and not be changing the preamps once they are set... or the band's mon engineer... or band member that has that control. I'm not sure how many bands will really understand that. It just seems like a recipe for trouble in many cases with a band making changes on the monitor console and those changes impacting FOH. I also assume the Midas digital split can be tapped at other points from the monitor console like post-EQ, post-fader, etc... though I haven't checked that. Those would just be additional complications for FOH if someone set things up that way. Once again, not a problem an analog can even have. I see so many routing misconfigurations and signal flow mistakes that I'm certain IF a problem can happen... it will happen.
Thanks Alan, I have an XR16, and trytign to record either via USB to pc or Midi to usb cable, I know I can use the memory stick on usb and internal CR recorder, but I wanted to try direct to PC , is this possible
Unfortunately, I don't think you can use the XR16 as a recording interface to computer. ...Not unless something has changed or I've missed something over the years. I don't have an XR16 so maybe I've missed something in the USB implementation and changes that could've happened in hardware of firmware updates, but AFAIK you have to have at least the X18 to get DAW interface capabilities. If I'm wrong, hopefully someone will see this and update me and you.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio Thanks Alan, as far as the usb is concerned I am gettign that impression due to the lack of info on TH-cam but what about the midi interface, ?
I wouldn't expect it to be able to record audio over MIDI, but I don't know why it couldn't send/receive MIDI information for keyboard or drum machine playback of the actual devices or plugins. But I've always just recorded my MIDI instruments directly to the DAW (or on the DAW) anyway so using the Behringer's MIDI implementations is not something I have experience with. But I wouldn't expect MIDI at all to be a workaround to getting multitrack audio IN/OUT of the XR16 @@billtomlinson3287
@@AlanHamiltonAudio mmmm ok thanks Alan I will study further, I thought I once installed the Behriger USB driver and did get tghe option of that audio but perhaps not even though it appears under XR16 down loads, thanks anyway Alan, (PS: I wasnt after mutli track I know XR16 cant do that anyway, just the stereo like the usb recorder woudl do, )
Hello, is it possible to do the same thing but with several tracks (have out 1-2, out 3-4, ... on the pc that we can assign to different tracks of the xr)
You'll need different software on the PC to output the tracks. Like a DAW. Reaper, Cakewalk, ProTools, etc.. I've got a video that talks about connecting Reaper, but really the process is basically the same for any DAW you'd want to use for your tracks. th-cam.com/video/xYmJGyroVe0/w-d-xo.html
You can do this but not both over the USB port. Use your aux sends out to send one to the daw and one to the broadcast. It can take a little more adjustments to get the mix right on them but it works.
I don't know. Maybe they wanted (or needed) to keep all the USB bandwidth they could available for transfer of audio for multi-tracking. The XR18 can send (or return) 18 channels out via USB to a DAW.
I guess because you can control it with your computer via ethernet, just need an adapter to get ethernet into your computer if it doesnt have a port for it already
Make sure you downloaded and installed the USB Audio driver and not the X/UF driver. Also, maybe try the older version of the USB Audio driver. Beyond that, try a different USB cable and switch USB ports.
Is it possible that the usb DriveSaver are only Running on Windows higher than Windows 7 Professional ? I have Nuendo and multiple plug ins running. But can Not activate the usb Audio for the xr18… Any solutions would be highly apreciated ! Thanks !
That is something I'm not sure about. You'd want to use more of the DAW settings for the XR18 (Like in this video: th-cam.com/video/xYmJGyroVe0/w-d-xo.html ) assuming your way of feeding that info into the XR18 is digital via USB and not taking analog outputs from your 5.1 device.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio I've done some digging in the meantime and for macOS, it seems I'd need to decouple the dolby surround signal (hopefully) coming from a browser player with a virtual audio loopback driver. Some of the options available are BlackHole (free/on donation), Loopback (paid), VoiceMeeter (paid, but has a Reaper-style trial). There's also a predecessor to Loopback - Soundflower - which has been discontinued and not maintained for a few years now, though. So I think I'll just tinker with BlackHole (lol) and see where I end up
Hello, idk if you still answer questions on here but im having a hard time just trying to get this set up as a recording interface with studio one.4 full version. I reset the Xair18 back to out of box settings, i followed this video to the T.. i have my speaker plugged in with working cables to the usb 17/18. I see the signal jumping when playing a youtube videonon the mixer Aux but i cant get any sound out of my monitors!? Im just trying to use this as a recording interface first off. I dont understand what could be the issue?
I'm using windows PC. Not a laptop. The drivers and edit program installed and work from everything I can tell. Idk if I have a routing issue or if there's some magical thing I didn't click to make the sound come out of my presounus monitors.. but its very frustrating. I wanna start tracking.. but I can't even hear playback, youtube, mp3s, or previous project tracks. I have tonbe doing something wrong.. I just don't know what.
@@johnnyshivers7310 You say you're seeing signal on the XR18 on the meters but just not able to get sound out of the monitors? Do you have any headphones or earbuds you could connect to the XR and see if you hear signal from them with your trax playing? Either directly from the L-R or if you SOLO the AUX IN channels. There's a volume knob for the headphones right beside the headphone jack on the XR18 and by default you should hear the L-R mix in the headphones. And whether you do or don't, when you SOLO the Aux IN section you should hear it then. If one or the other of those tests get sound it limits or points in different directions as to what might be going on.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio I have zero sound. Either in the phones or plugged into the XLR monitor to 17/18- 1/4 jack. It's like sound just isn't there. I also can't seem to get playback from the tracks. I told the i/o what tracks to use in the daw. I was able to plug a guitar in and record a track after setting up 16 mono tracks. I then went back into the in/out setting and routed the mains to 17/18 like another video said and nothing.. no signal in the meters jumping. I don't understand why it's just pumping out ANY SOUND.
@@johnnyshivers7310 In X-Air Edit, on channel 17-18 (Aux in), click the INPUT tab and you should see USB enabled (Cyan) and A/D greyed out. I'm pretty sure you do have that or else you wouldn't see any signal meters, but just to confirm things... Then switch to the MAIN tab and make sure the the Main Stereo LR button is enabled. It should be ORANGE and not greyed out. If it's greyed out... enable it. On that same page, look to the right and see if there are any DCA's enabled. If there are, just tick the enabled ones to eliminate a DCA fader overriding your settings. Or... you could just turn that enabled DCA fader UP if it's turned down. But for troubleshooting, just disabling any DCAs on 17-18 is a quick fix to make sure a DCA is not tripping you up. Even if you have the wrong things assigned somewhere, if you have input meters on 17 and 18, then you should get SOMETHING outputted from it... Next, in the top right, click IN/OUT and then go to the MAIN OUT tab. Double check that your MAIN is connected to your MAIN LR... This being wrong could create your symptoms. And while you're there... the Phones should by default be connected to MONITOR. That won't fix sound not being in the mains, but could address why it isn't in the headphones, plus might help with troubleshooting. Hopefully, by this point it's working... But if not... Then I guess there could be some random things to check that you probably already have checked... like making sure the channel 17-18 fader is up.... and the Master fader is up. And while you're looking at the Master fader, click on it and then go over to the "channel" tab at the top of X Air Edit. Which, at this point is not really a 'channel' per se that we're looking at.... but the Main bus itself. On the left side is a channel input section. There is an FX button and Insert point option there. While it's possible you could have inserted something there and want it ON... to eliminate a mispatch or anything else in the signal path while trying to troubleshoot all of this, set that drop down to OFF and to be double certain, make sure the FX button is disabled and greyed out. There's not really much else, that I can think of anyway, that would stop signal you ARE getting at 17-18 via the meters not to get to the outputs.
So.. I'm not sure what I did.. its now working. Lol honestly I was nearly about to give up.. so thank you for all the swift and timely advice! But I do now have a different issue.. the xair 18 keeps dropping off and disconnecting from the mixer edit app I think? The track will continue to play but sound drops and the xair doesn't have any signal jumping? Sometimes it plays for a mins.. sometimes 10.. sometimes 13 seconds?
IIRC the last Apple OS update added or locked/changed some permissions that had to do with audio interfaces. I don't have anything Apple to check that on, but maybe a Google search about 'USB Audio Interface not working on Mac' might have the answer about whatever it is that needs reset/changed (or changed back). Hopefully that is enough info to ring a bell and get you on the right path to at least check that.
Did you see this video on the channel? Even if you're using something besides OBS, it might help since many of the concepts are the same. th-cam.com/video/aNlBOOhWbZw/w-d-xo.html
Still not having luck with mine. I have the one that's got the slot for a table to sit. It works on my Android and Apple Tablets just fine. BUT my pc always spits up a driver error. AND yes I've installed the right driver, even using "run as administrator", still nothing. Done it like 10 times. NOTHING gets spat out to the PC, tried 10 different type b cables (which work with my Brother Label Maker and 3d printer just fine) on every port on my PC which all work and carry data, even the only USB 2.0 ports I have which are on the front of my case, since the back is Strictly 10Gbs ports and 5Gbs. Windows 10 and the PC I just built is a $14,000 machine, so not underpowered in the slightest, but is AMD. Won't even connect to WIFI via AP mode or WLAN. The driver shows up in the sound settings, but no sound comes out of my mixer to my pc or through its aux out.
What driver error are you getting? I'm not sure what might be up. AFAIK the X18 shouldn't have anything different over the XR18. I've used a laptop with an Intel CPU and both iterations of my AMD desktop. Old one was an FX8350 CPU... new one is a Ryzen 7 5800X. The only hiccup was on the older AMD the newer driver didn't work the first time I tried it so I loaded the the previous driver and it worked fine. I think subsequently the newer driver did work even on that machine, but I've since retired that desktop so I can't say that for sure.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio Unspecified. Just a generic "USB device not recognized" and is the only thing plugged into my USB ports and when I remove the plug from the mixer, so does the error get removed from Device Manager. HMM, maybe it is a Threadripper issue (3990x, as I said that machine is kind of absurdly overpowered for my daily use case, but boy can it play youtube videos); since you have a more "consumer" grade CPU (a good one at that, hence why this time I went team red), the driver support might be more standardised. I'll try it on my Area 51M with the 9th gen intel i9 and 2080, but I don't like that laptop since it lacks the ports (display mostly) that I need. I downloaded the drivers from Behringer's website last night, so they're really fresh. Even tried installing ASIO driver too, since one forum post suggested that option. It's frustrating, since it does work on my tablets, so it's not a power supply issue. And I doubt it's a German issue; since US sites didn't have it in stock so I ordered it on Thomann, 3 day shipping and $100 less than any US site, from Germany. Thomann was a site that Behringer listed as a retail partner.
@@tdata545 I just looked at the Behringer DL site and didn't see the previous driver. Just the current 4.59 version. I could email you a copy if you want to try loading the previous driver to see if that shakes something loose, or loading it first rebooting, and then loading the newer V4.59 updates something in the process. ASIO shouldn't be the issue just connecting to Windows except for multitrack recording, and AFAIK the only ASIO driver Behringer will work with is the native driver that installs as part of the USB Driver /X-Air Windows package.
That's one I haven't tried. I'd assume it's basically the same as Reaper. Have you looked at my Behringer to Reaper video to see if anything translates?
@@AlanHamiltonAudio yes. I have. It’s quite similar using focusrite sound card I’m able to record into FL studio but with the Behringer I don’t get any signal so that’s what I wanted to find out.
This video comes by way of a couple of video requests for the topic, and some perfect timing to do this video. For those that want to send stereo audio from their PC (or Mac for that matter) via USB to the XR18, this is the basic instruction set for that.
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I did everything step by step, but for some reason the level of the music is extremely low, and the channel is clipping and making awful noises. Downloaded the driver, changed the audio from the computer to 1-2 out (berhinger x18). Usb return to 1-2 (used the preset). As I said there is signal, just awful noise and clipping that isn't there when connected via aux cable to channels 17-18. I tried multiple usb cables, any idea what the issue might be? Thanks in advance
@@TheHassassian That is weird. There is a USB level in the channel control of X-Air for ch 17-18, but if you were hitting it too hard, it might sound bad... but it shouldn't be low.
I'm assuming you rebooted the computer after installing the driver... Just in case it was something simple like that.
It could be something like you BIOS needs updated on the computer or some BIOS setting, or something to do with mobo/USB drivers needing updated.
In the Setup section, Audio/MIDI, you might switch from 48K to 44.1K clock rate... and reboot everything and see if that makes any difference.
Do you have another computer you could try, just for testing purposes to see if it works on your desktop or a different laptop?
@@AlanHamiltonAudio Hi Alan! Great video, but I have the same problems as Saro have with my MR18. I followed all the steps and I got the sound to work through without any problems, sound is good but it´s clipping, sounds like you put on an old dirty LP with scratches and you raise the volume until the scratches makes the signal to clip. I have tried 2 laptops and one iMac with the same result. I have switched the USB-cable, updated BIOS, changed the settings on USB-ports in BIOS, changed to 44,1 in the M18 setup. I did try to route manually but still... I have the same clipping noise on the Mains out aswell in the phones out when trying headphones. I have even tried both USB-drivers in the midasconsoles/downloads page. No difference. What do you think is the problem? Shall I just accept the problem and play music through 17/18 using 3,5mm stereo 2xmono tele to 17/18. Im worried if I will have a problem recording to reaper using the USB-interface, but I haven´t tried it yet.
@@jonnyedvardsson9608 I think it would be worth trying Reaper since it's free to try anyway, and see if the problem persists. Like you, I suspect it will. But maybe it won't. In either case, that is a bit more information to troubleshoot from and try and figure out what the problem might be.
Besides that, in the Behringer/Midas SETUP (X-Air Edit/M-Air Edit) on the Audio/MIDI tab, you could try changing the USB interface to 2/2 from the normal 18/18. This then won't work for Reaper, but maybe some computers need it in this mode for stereo operation. Try that and report back if you can.
Thanks Allen! I have a new xr18 for church. I've been setting it up for quite some time now. Over the Christmas holiday I watched this video 100x until I got my pc to play through the xr18. One tip for others as this was my problem- when I downloaded the xr18 digital mixer software on their website I DID NOT select "drivers and devices " and my software did not work. Once I unistalled and then reinstalled I was able to see the behringer out 1 2 as a speaker option. With out drivers and devices selected I only saw "behringer xr18 speakers" or something like that. Anyway thanks for the videos I'll be absorbing them all!!
pulling my hair out yesterday because my routed audio stopped coming in and i couldn't figure out what i changed. turns out when i saved a routing preset it turned off the usb source button on each individual channel. I appreciate the video!
Thank you!!! Exactly what I needed. Couldn't for the life of me figure out how to control the level to my studio monitors. The XR18 is a beast!
You're very welcome!
Just a note for Mac users, You can direct the system sound output to a specific mixer channel using the Audio MIDI Setup app, found in the Applications/Utilities folder.
Make sure the Audio Device window is visible.
Window > Show Audio Devices
Select X18/XR18 (18 ins/ 18 outs)
Click the Configure Speakers button
Select the channel for Left and Right (17 and 18 for Aux)
I use this to listen to NetFlix, TH-cam, Spotify etc. on the XR18 Aux channel through my desktop mains without interfering with my 1 and 2 input channels. Also works for virtual soundcheck from a DAW, which no doubt will be the subject of a new video.
One further note, make sure that your Sound settings, in System Preferences > Sound, send Sound Effects to your Mac's Internal Speakers, otherwise every 'ping' will go through your mains.
Great work Alan.
Thanks for the Mac info! Great stuff! :)
I'm having problems to connect my XR18 to my Mac sistem preference audio input/output. Help please
Thanks, Marcus. This worked for me. Any tips on controlling the volume on the mains when you're doing this?
This is the channel I Needed :)
Still one of the best videos for the X air18 on here.many thanks.
This is so good! When you keep going on with these kinds of clear explanations you might end up having created a versatile and very access able manual for the XR 18 in the end!
Now you're making me think I need to go through the XR18 playlist and organize the videos in some kind of logical order! ;)
@@AlanHamiltonAudio Not a bad idea ;))
This is fantastic. I'm considering the Midas-18 and was wondering about running PC audio into it. Thank you!
This was perfect... YOU ROCK! Lol . Seemed like everything I needed to know, can't wait to set this up.
I believe that I was missing the USB to source in the channel input section🙏
Thanks!
Great videos!!! And your mouse click sound is very satisfying!
Glad you enjoyed!
Hello, Alan, and thank you for your great and concise tutorials! I would like to address a question, so excuse its redundancy and my foolishness in case; I'm new to live mixing and the XR/X18. As I see it, the XR/X18 is made for smaller sets and venues since it only has one output, 'main out'. My contractor (not an audio engineer at all, or anything like that) bought the X18 without thinking in advance of this 'issue'... well, it's not really an issue, but more of a personal quirk. We use it for a large hall that has 4 sets of speakers that are connected to 4 (iNUKE NU3000) amplifiers, so we're sending the same 'main out' signal to all those 4 stations, which seems pretty common and natural, but not 'exquisitely professional'. I would've liked to create 4 separate stereo mixes for each of those speaker sets, with different stereo widths, EQ curves and different compression settings, and the possibility to adjust the levels or turn off the speaker sets (depending on how big the audience is or other factors) independently, from the mixer, without tweaking the amp boxes themselves. So, I would've liked using a 'set and forget' approach for the amp boxes. To make it short, I want to use the X18 only as an audio interface and do all the mixing on my DAW. (Yes, I also have to pray to God that my computer will not crash or become unstable during a show!)
The X18 offers me 6 aux outs which are, naturally, laid and engineered for monitoring; I would've wanted using these aux outs as the main speaker outs. My issue is that I cannot route the USB returns to these aux outs directly. I can only route them to the FX channels and then route the FX channels to the aux outs (pretty unpractical since I'm not sure I can turn the effects off for each of these FX channels). Another approach (the most common and go-to, actually) would be to set the USB returns to 6 regular channels (for 3 stereo mixes, separate from the main out) and then route those to aux outs, but that means I have to sacrifice 6 analog inputs (which I may need). I'm not sure if there's any way to insert separate USB channels (like, a channel 19, 20, 21 and so on), or hack into that somehow - that would be great. What would you suggest to be the most practical solution in this case? Using an ultranet box to get more outs? I will also need stage monitors or IEMs in a future, so definitely in need of more out ports for separate mixes. Thank you very much!
Thank you! I was going crazy trying to figure out why my machine wouldn't play audio from my computer even though I had the x air app set up.
Hi there Alan, thanks for all your input. I use windows media player for FOH / interval music. can I get this to play from my x air 18 using the same laptop that x air edit is running on ? Very best regards from Pete in Auchtermuchty, Scotland.
Yes, definitely. You can play trax over USB and also connect over ethernet/wifi using X-Air Edit to control the XR18 on the same laptop.
Would be great to see how you would do a virtual soundcheck, daw to xr18.
When gets start again, this is one of the things I'd like to do.
Hi Alan, tks for all your videos. really useful as I own an XR18 (V1). Unfortunately, I face an issue considering the USB interface. I see only outputs 1-8 on the Windows sound control panel instead of 1-18. As a consequence, I can only have routing on USB I/O 1-8 from/to my DAW (BandLab Cakewalk). Any idea why only 1-8 ? (PS : XR18 firmware = 1.22 ; windows driver = 5.12.0). Any idea why ?
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Thanks so much!!!!! 🎉 Really was driving me crazy. I thought, I can't be this stupid. Well, I am 😂. Thanks again.
When on the Behringer site, the XR18 isn't an option (based on the steps you show here in the video). Do I choose the X32 instead?
No. The XR18 is there... maybe not everywhere it should be though. X32 driver won't work.
Go here: www.behringer.com/product.html?modelCode=P0BI8
On the right side of the screen, choose SOFTWARE
Scroll down from the options that open up and you should see it. I just checked and it's working if you go to it that way.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio I actually broadened my search and found the correct driver. I downloaded it, but even after rebooting, my computer sounds are coming through the PA, but Spotify won't play when my settings are USB. I uninstalled and reinstalled it, same thing. I went back to my original settings and just used the stereo headphone cable in channels 17/18.
When you returned pc audio to channels 15 and 16 , you didn’t hard pan each channel (or link them). Should you?
If you want/need stereo, then yes. If you have sep mono tracks, like vocal on one side and music on the other, then probably want mono for that. Or if the PA is mono using only the L or R output, that would be another reason to not pan them, though you could still link them in that case
@AlanHamiltonAudio thanks you!
I know I'm two years late, but yesterday i started wondering if it is possible to send backing tracks out to FOH and record the show at once?
Definitely should be able to. You'll have to work out your DAW routing so that you're sending your backing tracks to unused channels (unused by the live band) on the mixer.
I'm curious if you had figured this out since you asked here. I'm new to the XR18 and am in full-on "learning curve" about everything. I'm also wanting to send audio from my laptop to the mixer for break/fill music while also being able to record live shows to same laptop. (I'm using Studio One 6 as my DAW.)
@@DavidOxford606 here is how i do it. i send the tracks thru 15 and 16, then i disable the outputs on the other channels. that way they don't go to the PA.
There's probably an easier way to do it but the tests i have done it seems to work.
This video was extremely helpful, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
@@AlanHamiltonAudio It's so hard to find thorough setup videos for the XR18. Even the manual that comes with the XR18 is quite vague when it comes to actually setting up the software. Your video helped me get everything up and running!
Hi, Alan.. I just purcahsed MR18 yesterday. I still can’t see any audio signal frim may Macbook even after I downloaded and intalled M-air edit (Mac) version. Should I plug router cable as well?
You need ethernet, whether cable or wireless for X Air Edit to work (connect with the mixer). USB is only for audio. So make sure your X-Air edit is actually controlling the mixer and you have a proper connection between the mixer and the computer.
Maybe even with a mic and headphones in the mixer so you can test things are actually working and aren't in offline mode or something.
Once you're sure the mixer is working and X-Air Edit is controlling the mixer (and you have sound in the headphones), then you can check your settings and make sure USB settings are set correctly and all of that.
And at that point try for computer audio again.
I don't have any Apple stuff so I don't know what potential settings might need to be checked there. Always try swapping USB cables, and for testing, use short cables so you have some margin of error on USB cable length limitations. Once you know it's working, you can try your longer cables since you have a point of reference that you know IS working.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio thank you so much for your response. Will try immeadiately!
Thanks for the great video Alan! I'm both rehearsing the band through our P.A. and monitors, as well as recording it in my basement. Is there a way to have the audio from my computer go out sends 5 & 6 but panned to stereo so I can sent it to my studio monitors?
If you link out 5 to 6 in the X-Air Edit software that should automatically pan those outputs. So you can make any 2 channels 'listen' to USB 1 and USB 2 via routing in the X-Air. For example the Aux In channels (17 and 18). Set those to listen to USB 1 and USB 2 (not analog in). Then just make sure to UNASSIGN those two channel from L-R and set the bus 5 and bus sends to unity on those two channels. Or set those two busses to "Subgroup"
Also, in the output section, make sure that bus 5 and bus 6 are NOT assigned to the L-R.
Then just connect your left monitor speaker to XLR out 5 and the right to XLR out 6.
This video talks about input settings:
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This video talks about output settings:
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And this video talks about connecting Reaper (DAW) to your X-Air:
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@@AlanHamiltonAudio Thanks so much Alan! I've sent this over to my engineer who will 'Old Man-Splain' to me. :-)
you do the same steps if you want to send a click track when using it as IEM? I'm using ableton, but i would think that it dosn't matter what DAW you use...
Yes, essentially... although using a DAW and the Behringer ASIO driver gives you more options since you can send more tracks to the X-Air, and more options for the tracks to go different places. Of course, none of that really matters of you just have a click track you need to send to IEMs... But if you have a click track, a vocal track, and an instrument track (for example), then it would matter then...
If you know your way around Ableton well enough, I have a Reaper to XR video, and you should be able to figure out the settings for Ableton from that. The XR settings would be the same basically, but obviously the Ableton and Reaper GUI and workflow is going to look different.
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Hi, Alan. Excellent content on your channel. I'm also a Patreon subscriber and an XR18 newbie. I have a quick question: do you have a video that explains how to both play and record audio from a single laptop through the XR18? Specifically, I have a very small wedding coming up where I need to play music from a laptop (it's in a remote location so streaming is not an option) along with a few mics. I need to simultaneously record everything back to same laptop with my DAW (Studio One.) I'm sure this is mostly a routing issue, of which I'm admittedly still learning. If you have a video that deals with this, could you point me to it? Thanks for your time!
While there's not a video that speaks exactly to that per se', there is the XR18 to Reaper video- th-cam.com/video/xYmJGyroVe0/w-d-xo.html
Routing concepts in the XR18 would be the same regardless of DAW. For Studio One though, you'll have to transfer the concepts from the shown Reaper routing/setup to however that needs to work for Studio One.
So I 'think' the info is in that video on how to do what you're wanting to do... but it's not talking about exactly that concept. Still, it's a matter of playing back the tracks, the same as if you were in the studio, while playing along with and recording the new parts. You're just live as versus the studio. So this video we're commenting under doesn't really get into those concepts, while the Reaper to XR18 video does get more into that type of concept and routing.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio thank you very much! I will be checking out that video. I plan to set up the mixer here at home and do some trialing of this process, and I'm sure your video will be helpful. Cheers!
Hi was also thinking about this. Initially I thought the Mains out can only be assigned to USB OR physical mains out but nope luckily its separate so meaning can record and play to audience at the same time.
Thank You Alan for the tutorial. I followed it and it is working. A question. I like to play along songs coming this way from my computer. What's the best way to mix the drums with the music? Intending balancing volumes etc. I have my headphones in the headphones input on XR18 but it seems not the best to me. Thanks
Make sure your gain structure is correct on all of your inputs before you do any real EQ or adding compression, gates, etc...
And then make the first thing you add a HPF (low cut).
If you haven't watched this video on gain structure, I'd recommend checking it out.
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What problem are you having?
@@AlanHamiltonAudio Thanks! I've been practicing a bit and now it seems everything is working as I like. Ciao
Can you use mr18 usb as the main output source? Mr18 to iPhone directly via USB?
Hey Alan,
How would you do this with a Talkback Mic.
For example; I am using all 16 inputs for the band (Aux or 17&18 is being used for Click/MD). I am using FX1 for Vocal Reverb and FX2 for Instrument Reverb, but I would like to use FX3 as my music/playback feed and FX4 as a Talkback feed (not going through FOH). I will have a 2 input channel Audio interface plugged into the same laptop which will have both the playback feed and microphone plugged into it. How do I then route these to the two FX returns?
Can you send the usb audio from
The computer to more then 2 channels?
You can if the software supports it, like Reaper or some other DAW.
Hello Alan, great video!! I've got a question, can you help me please? How routing stereo iPad audio (example Spotify) for playback through the Behringer XR18?
Not sure. I don't have an iPad to test with. :(
@@AlanHamiltonAudio Ok, thanks, I use now the Fun Generation BT Receiver
Hi. I hope you can help me. I have the driver installed, but my computer won't recognize the usb. However if I unplug and the plug the XR18 back into the wall it will recognize it. But once I try to use OBS or even any audio program like Windows media etc it will go to generic USB and the driver info will say device disconnected. Very frustrated...
It should work... It's hard to say what might be going on with the PC. I'd definitely try a different USB cable just to rule that out... Obviously, reinstall the drivers and make sure you're loading XR18 USB audio drivers and not something else, nor X32 versions. Reboot the computer.
Other ideas might be loading an older version of the drivers first and seeing if those work...
@@AlanHamiltonAudio I tried different cables, another pc laptop, and a Mac computer. None of them recognize the XR18. I'm assuming it's the Behringer now. I'll be calling customer service soon..
Nice video. Is this feature available on XR12?
I don't have an XR12 but I think it's not... I think the XR12 just has a slot for a USB stick, but no way to talk thru USB to a PC/Mac.
Maybe someone will confirm or correct me here to be 100% sure.
Does anyone know if this will work with the XR12 unit?
I would like to know also because I'm interested in purchasing an XR12. The Behringer downloads page suggests that this is possible, but I don't know anyone who has tried it.
Am I able to configure the ins/outs via scenes or show files? My band wants to do a line check and then mix our set ourselves, via USB playback.
Thankyou brother! Hope you full of Jesus bless
Awesome Video. Is there a way to also have the PC receive the audio from mixer as an input? and have the PC send audio to the mixer at the same time?
Hi Alan - I have a little tricky question. I use XR18 in stage box for in-ear monitoring of four member band. We have a backing track, which we get to our ears in three different inputs. 14, 15, 16. Drums, Bass and Chords. It should be better to sound engineer for balance these three tracks during a live show. But - I dont know how to set up my MR18 to get these three tracks to sound engineer mixer. I suppose that I cannot change input to output despite fact that I have three tracks I can operate in Xair app as a standart inputs.
We have this set-up:
Instruments > Splitter
1 Splitter output is return to sound engineer mixer
2 Splitter output is connect to MR18 inputs
MR18 Auxes > in-ear system
Could you help me with this setting? I know that is working - I copied this rack and setting from fellow band which is performing with that, but I cannot get a answer how they have it set-up.
Thank you
Jiri
Is there a video for setting up permissions for musicians to access only their mix? Something that doesn't discuss general monitor mix set up...just permissions only.
That is something that definitely can be done using Mixing Station software, but nothing I've done a video about.
@AlanHamiltonAudio ... I think it would be great to make a video about that... A scenario where you're the sound guy, you just finished setting up and tuning your rig in a bar, and now musicians are starting to show up. A walk through of getting them going with the app (if they dont have it already), and setting permissions.
So, an xr 16 without the USB-b port, and just a usb-a port, does this mixer not communicate with the PC?
Does it just record to a flash drive and that's it?
I'm under the impression that the xr16 will have the same functions as an xr18, but mine has a different usb port and after updating firmware and loading drivers my pc does not see the I/O from the usb.
Never mind. I answered my own question. I should've bought an xr18.
@@travishanson166 Good news is you figured out the issue... bad news is you figured out that is a difference between the XR18 and XR16. :(
I just saw your question and was about to answer.
For livestream sound - we use the USB options feed which has a great sound when using a mic however when I try and use a IPAD for auto to pack them up the sound is very choppy and not fully coming through. Any suggestion
can i use the xr18 or mr18 as a line mixer and routing the sum into a Motu M4 or another Audio Interface ? Or can I do this by creating with the Editor Software an Aux Out and feed this signal to a dedicated Audio Interface. I use PC Win 10. thnx for thid vid and for a reply ,)
You can use the XR18 or MR18 itself as an 18x18 audio interface (via USB) so you wouldn't need to use another interface to get into a DAW. It can be your USB audio interface itself.
You just need to DL and install drivers for PC (Mac doesn't need drivers), select the 18/18 option in the Setup tab of the X-Air unit, and then setup your DAW by choosing the Behringer as your interface.
So no additional hardware is needed if that is what you are wanting to do.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio Thks for the info. My intension is to use another audio interfacr like Motu M4 or SSL2+ as they have a low latency, which I need to use my VST plugins (FX and Synths, Drummachines). I think the Midas MR do not have a good latency and AD/DA converters as above mentioned interfaces. I don't want to spend 1600.00 for a Motu 16A which is my favourite AI.
Does the length of the USB video matter?
Yes. IIRC a standard USB 2.0 cable (which the USB is 2.0) is a max of approx 15'. There are 'amplified' USB cables that can be used to extend the distance, but I've never tried one.
Generally, you want to use as short of a USB cable as practical just to give yourself a margin for error. But this is true of any USB2.0 device, not just the XR18 and a laptop running a DAW.
Hello, if I wanted to send all the channels to obs, as a mix, using an auxiliary, how would the connection with USB be?
Did you see this video on the channel? It should explain that with visual examples.
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Is there a way to send audio out of a pc USB port? Using a behringer 4 channels interface connected to pc but I want to send digital audio thru usb rather than analog ports on interface. Hope you can help. Thanks
Is it the UMC404HD USB Audio Interface?
@@AlanHamiltonAudio yes. The situation is: I have a mevo camera that only allows usb audio input and I want to control the input thru the pc using a virtual mixer then try to fool the cameras input sending audio thru usb on the laptop. The goal is to use pluggings etc and better audio quality.
@@noelbulls8628 Let me do some research tonight. I'm almost positive it would and would work similar to the XR18 as far as that goes, but I don't own that 4 channel interface so can't say I've ever done it.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio no problem brother thanks for all videos. I learn so much fro them. Later
@@noelbulls8628 The camera is the wildcard in this. Audio in and out of the Behringer UMC to the PC, and from the PC back to the UMC, shouldn't be an issue.. but whether you can then send that audio to the camera via another computer USB... I don't know.
Everytime I think of something, I think of a question/issue that I don't have a way to check.
Let’s say I’m using multi tracks and need 8 separate channels to come out individually from the laptop. Is it possible?..
Yes, assuming I'm understanding you. It would have more to do with your DAW and settings there than the XR18. The XR18 has a full 18x18 grid of USB returns in the In/Out routing section. And any channel can be connected to the front panel inputs OR listening to USB for its signal.
The XR18 even lets you move those around so you don't have to be connected 1 to 1 with the tracks in your DAW. IOW, your tracks could be 1-8, and your DAW outputting them to USB 1-8... And the XR18 could be set to have CHANNELS 9-16 listening to USB1-8.
I've got this video for Reaper and the XR18. It does talk about how to setup Reaper for things like this when it's the DAW in question. I'm sure the DAW info translates in many ways, but it would still come down to knowing how to rout your particular DAW and the routines necessary.
So even if you're not using Reaper, I think this video will be helpful for info on concepts for the DAW that you'll be looking for, and regardless of DAW, the XR18/MR18 settings will be the same.
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Hi Alan. Great channel. When im set up i get some interference. I suspect the cable. Is there one you recommend. Im running about 20feet. Thanks and keep up the good work.
I could be 20' is just too long. I think 16' is the max USB cable length for USB2.0. And I imagine some cables can't even do that reliably. If you can't go shorter, I'd look into a USB repeater cable of some kind.
Hi Alan,
Thnx for the great channel with all the clear explanations! I have a little 'custom question'
My band is working with backing tracks, which by itsself is no problem wat all. Howeverf , we want tot use 'custom clicktracks' over the busses. The drummer and guitarplayer want a full clicktrack on their IEM's and the singer and bassplayer want a custom track, only consisting of an intro click of 2 bars and several spoken count-ins/reminders at crucials parts of the songs. I divided these over two tracks in our DAW (Cubase) that play completely synchronous with the backing track. Now I want to route these three tracks in a proper way.: Backing track to both IEM's and the FOH (FOH has it's own signal through a splitter box, IEM's go through the XR18 which has it's own signal through the same spliitter box).
The remaning signals are IEM-only and I want to to use the FX return 3 and 4 to bring them into the IEM mix (over USB) so we can use all analog channels for the band itself.
What would be the proper way to setup the routing? The XR18 is a brilliant device but setting up the routing can be a little daunting time to time 😀
Well, I think I could probably sort it out if it was all sitting in front of me, but I'm a bit lost trying to figure it out as you've written it. That's pretty complicated ;)
I gather that you are using all the analog channels for band inputs and can't just use a couple of those inputs for the click tracks?
@@AlanHamiltonAudio That's exactly what it is. All analog channels are taken, as are 2 of 4 FX returns. We are looking to use the 2 remaining FX returns for clicktracks, one of which is used by all 4 of us, and one of which is used by our drummer and guitar player only. To be complete: One of the analog channels is used as USB and processes the backing track that also goes to FOH
What we need to do in short : We need to route 3 tracks from Presonus Studio One to three tracks in the XR18. The backing track itself to an analog track and separate clicktracks to the FX3 and FX4 returns (for IEM-only)
Hope I made it a little clearer 😀
Hello Alan, I just recently purchased a midas mr18 but when I send PC audio over usb (to any channel it doesn't matter) it keeps crackling and clipping.
I have redownloaded the drivers and made sure that i am on the latest firmware but nothing helps.
Do you have any idea why ?
You might try downloading an older set of drivers and see if that makes any difference. Try a different USB cable.
Do you have a different computer to test with? Maybe connect the MR18 to a different computer and see if that changes anything.
Someone, either in this thread or the Reaper to XR18 thread had an issue connecting via USB and turned out to be a hardware issue with the XR/MR18. I don't recall if they couldn't couldn't connect at all, or got issues like you're experiencing.
If you can connect to another computer with no issues, that would at least seemingly rule out a problem with the MR18 in this case.
I suppose you could DL Reaper and give it a try to see if it somehow works when connecting to your computer, which then also could eliminate the MR18 as being a problem and at least send you back to your computer looking for a driver conflict or computer BIOS upgrade or BIOS setting that needs changed. But if that's the case, there's no guarantee that Reaper would work thru it either... but it might. It would be worth a try I'd think.
Reaper to XR/MR18 video-
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@@AlanHamiltonAudio isn't it possible that his USB gain is just set too high on the XR18?
@@samroney6644 Yes, that's a good point. I assumed he wasn't seeing clipping on the meters, but I probably shouldn't have assumed that and should've mentioned to check that. I jumped a step ahead.
when using this as the IEM hub and you want to have a click , backing tracks and record the show al at once, any chance that can be done?
It can definitely be done but if you're bringing the click and trax in digitally, then you're going to want to do it all from within a DAW. And you're really going to have think about your routing, track arming, pre-recorded tracks, tracks that will be recording live, and loading the pre-recorded tracks and songlist order.
I have this video about connecting to Reaper: th-cam.com/video/xYmJGyroVe0/w-d-xo.html
I think you'd probably find it easier to feed the tracks and click via a Wave player (or MP3 player), or laptop using the analog (headphone out), or connected to its own interface and feeding the XR with an analog signal(s).... While recording everything separately via USB in an entirely different laptop.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio got a few time signatures in all of the songs, i would think that dont matter as long as you got a click to get you from A to B, or does it matter when using backing tracks? never used backing tracks before, but now we need them. would it be a bood idea to have the clock follow the time signatures then?
Our band uses a designated router for the 18xr but would like to run Playlists from Amazon music on the pc during breaks. However, this requires hooking up to a different wifi network. Is there an option to stream music online while staying on our router?
Not sure on this. Hopefully someone will see this and chime in.
Just hook the WAN port on your private router to a public router network LAN port where the internet is accessible.
You could run an Ethernet cable from the "internet router" to the designated router unless your trying to keep your designated router offline.
how to send xr18 audio >> pro tools>> vmix?? for live screaming
I'll have to look into it. I've used Reaper so much that I haven't looked at Pro Tools in some time.
I’ve tried everything you’ve suggested in the comments as well. I get sound from my daw and can route those tracks easily but no sound at all from my pc with a TH-cam video playing in the background and switching back and forth between each suggestion, still crickets. Do you offer teamviewer sessions or anything where I can pay you to try and troubleshoot it??
I'm not really sure what it could be... Bad USB cable? Too long of a USB cable? BIOS settings in the computer? Computer gremlin? Did you try reloading drivers? Try older drivers? I'm not sure if there are any newer drivers now than when I made the video but it wouldn't hurt to check. Of course Mac doesn't need drivers. Firmware update?
If you're getting partial connectivity from the DAW, then that would seem to rule out a USB cable, though I'd still change it just to see what happens.
Man I am in the same boat! I have tried with 3 different laptops, spent 6 hours on Sweetwater and this is what I have discovered so far. 1. AMD, no good...the processor simply doesn't work with the Behringer drivers. I have tried 2 different XR18's with same issue. Now with my intel inside PC laptop I am able to record and get great sound except it is not playing anything I record back through the XR18. I am now calling SW again with this issue to determine if this just isn't the device for me. I currently have a Tascam US-1800 that does a great job for recording several tracks simultaneously, but it doesn't have the bells and whistles and extra features that I was hoping to take advantage of with the XR18. I will update this post as soon as I have tried to get help through Sweetwater!! I am wondering if it just a driver issue that Behringer needs to fix/update.
Hey there - deeply appreciate the videos! I just got a Midas MR18 and I have it configured and routed (or so I believe) - I can get clean electric guitar sound through my monitors but anytime I run my computer audio through the MR18 I get continuous popping through my studio speakers no matter what gain I set it to? Any way around this?
Obv mixer isn't broken or I couldn't get clean unphased guitar tone, but definitely need clean computer audio as well for what I use it for
It sounds like maybe a bad USB cable, or one that doesn't get along with the MR18 for whatever reason, or a clocking issue. Is it a Mac or Windows computer?
Are you using it for recording and bringing your recorded tracks in and out of the MR18, or just trying to play backing tracks via USB for live performances?
If your gain is good into the MR18 normally, then it can't be a gain issue causing the problems with a normal USB connection.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio Yeah just tested it running my Helix into Midas and it sounded heavenly - so the mixer to speaker connection isn't the problem.
Whenever I play back audio on it there's frequent clicking and popping to the point of I-wouldn't-use-this no matter what the gain is
What is a good USB cable you'd recommend? I am using some cheap 15ft Amazon cable, also using some cheap ethernet cable (saw someone said this has to be shielded, idk if true) but I don't think ethernet would result in playback issues
I have a Focusrite Scarlett 8i6 I have been using and it gives me no problems whatsoever with anything so I imagine this should work it's just user error
and it's a Windows computer, Dell XP40
@@AlanHamiltonAudio it was indeed a crappy USB cable - just swapped out for another and worked like a charm! Thank goodness haha because wiring this all took about three hours
Hi Alan, is it possible to record on Ableton Live a signal that comes to me via USB from iTunes via the mixer?That is, I get a signal via USB into the mixer and I want to record that signal on a dedicated channel on Ableton Live. Thank you 😊
Hello, what if I'm running a mix for a livestream and want to use that same mix for my live audience. How can I go about that?
I have this video linked below for the XR18 and OBS, but if you aren't using OBS, the part about mixing for the stream still applies regardless of your software for streaming:
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@@AlanHamiltonAudio thanks!!
@@kmont54 No problem! LMK if you have any questions.
Hello! Could you help me? When I select OUT 1-2 in Windows, nothing can be heard through the headphones, what configuration am I missing? I already installed the drivers and in the Daw and xair app you can hear through the headphones but when I play youtube, for example, no.
Hi Alan, thank you again great stuff. For the XR16 IO am trying to record and playback from the USb via a memory stick, I have tried both formats (FAT and NTFS) but the X air doesn't seem to see the drive, is there a specific size that the usb can read I tries with a 256GB USB stick for example., There is nothing around explaining this. I press record and the red light flashes and goes of and the list does not show any wav files there.
You do have to wait after stopping the recording for the X-Air to finalize the recording... But it sounds like you're doing that if you see the USB light go off before you pull the stick.
Other than that, the X32 can be finicky about USB drives, so I imagine the X-Air uses the same circuitry so you might try another brand stick, or just another stick in general and see how that goes. I've had good luck with PNY. Pretty sure Sansdisk has always worked for me too. I see one Sansdisk here that I've used on the X32 and it's a 64G Cuzer.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio Thanks Alan, it seems the current range only handles USB 2.0 and up to 64GB, I got it workign with them, yes they are finicky for sure
Can either the xair 12 or 16 do this? Thanks
I'm thinking the X12 and 16 can only do stereo 'out' to a USB stick and doesn't have a full-featured USB connection for digital audio back and forth over USB.
Hi, can xr16 do the same thing, playing audio from pc direct to xr16 through usb port?
Can you route an input into the DAW and receive output at the same time? For example, could I plug a guitar into input 1 on the xr18, route it through Guitar Rig on the computer and then back out from the xr18? Thanks in advance. I’m learning a lot from your channel.
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waiting in my XR16. Wondering if I can do the same on that? Surely, would be able to do it the manual way.
I think the XR16 just has a USB port for your thumb drive, but not to connect to a laptop. But I don't have one to confirm.
Thank you for this! When I connected the sounds this way, it took away my sound coming into the xr18 by usb. Does usb only work one way at a time or does it use them together?
The XR18 channels can either get their sound from the front panel inputs or the USB inputs. That cab be changed in routing or config.
If the subs are on something like bux 6, does the usb signal have to be routed there as well for the bass frequencies to come through properly as well? Sorry if this is a dumb question, new to all this.
Yes, in that case the low freq content would need a path to the subs... so in your example, bus 6 would need to be turned up on the channel(s) receiving the USB signal to then send signal to the subs.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio Ah ok! Perfect, thanks so much!
One quick question. We're using K12 speakers with the Ksub. Would it be easier to just do the daisy chain from each speaker into inputs A and B of the sub to save bus space for an IEM mix? Seems like you would have less control but it's a tradeoff if you need the extra bus I suppose.
Also, thank you so much for these videos. Incredibly helpful.
@@PocketDelicious Definitely... IMO if you need an extra mix it's better to skip aux-fed subs and have the extra mix (vs having to compromise and share a mix somewhere in order to preserve a bus for the aux-fed subs).
@@AlanHamiltonAudio Perfect! Lifesaver!
How about using the mixer to send a stereo signal to my MAC/Garagband for live recording?
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Hello Alan,
Can I route multiple sources from my computer to different channels on XAir or is Out 1-2 the only option ?
For example : routing youtube to channel 1-2, a game to 3-4, another app to 5-6, then using the main output of XAir for a livestream. If you know of the GoXLR, that's the kind of setup I want to have.
I'm not really sure... The XR18 can do its part since it's got 18 USB in and outs... but whether different software packages can access it... Or what the workaround would be... I don't know.
AFAIK, for example, unless something has changed, something like OBS is locked to only using USB 1 and USB 2.
Since you can make any outputs on the XR18 be USB 1 and USB 2, then that works fine in that case... but for what you're wanting to do. I just have no idea.
Hi Alan, im using xr18 and I wanna set up ch17/18 as monitor output. Im doing your every step, I see the signal on my iPad and Mac but I can't hear anything. Im sure about my cables and the monitors all of it works. I don't understand why it is not working im gonna crazy !
I hate sending you to another video, but if you're seeing signal there must be something in your configuration that is misconfigured. Possibly routing. DCA assignments?
See if anything from the Channel Walk-Thru video is being missed in your signal path:
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Hello sir,seems like there is no way i can make this thing to work,i did exactly as you have said and it is impossible for me to get any signal from my pc.I tried to play a very large track from youtube in hope to get some signal as i change the settings on XAIR the weird thing is that if i try to start music from winamp for example,winamp acts like it is completely dead doesnt start at all.I did everything as you have mentioned : I connected USB/Ethernet > USB 1-2 to AUX i still get no signal,i dont know what else to do,my speakers are connected to the MAINL/R is this a problem?
I'm not really sure. It SHOULD work if you're following the instructions exactly as in the video. Have you tried with a different computer? I suppose you could need to make some BIOS level change/update on your computer... But I kind of doubt that.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio ok so i uninstalled the drivers and installed them again and everything seems to work..i guess my mistake was that i installed the drivers with the device closed at first time.
@@_DNA. Cool. I was kinda stumped!
Hello.
Is their a video somewhere to show me how to connect my xr-18 using x air for iPad, to my PC running Audacity?
I’m confused on how to set my usb out….
I've not really tried Audacity for connecting to the XR18. I have a video about connecting an XR18/MR18 to Reaper DAW and on the XR18 side of things, the settings would be basically the same no matter what DAW was being used and it would be the DAW abilities and configuration that would be the wildcard. That video is here:
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I have a question maybe you can answer. I have the routing set up for my PC to playback audio through the Aux 17/18 USB. However, when I am set up to record into reaper and USB is enabled, channels 1 and 2 are also getting input from the PC. I assume this is because windows is sending to those channels. Is there a way to send directly to 17/18 from windows and not 1 and 2 so that I'm not getting the PC over those inputs when recording?
I think what you're talking about has to do with Reaper's default USB outputs and its master outs... which can all be changed. See if this video explains what you're wanting to get done:
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hi Alan.
i have a question that can XR18 been recognized as mutil media output device?
i need to output media from PC to XR18's input,but it needs to be mutil-device,such like in windows's Output have a "Speaker" and a "Earphones".
in your video it seems only be recognized as one media device named "OUT 1-2".
i need have mutil device in windows such as "OUT 1-2" and "OUT 3-4",can XR18 do this?or i still need other device?
thanks!
At the bottom right corner of the screen where the speaker symbol is, if you click, normally x18 and xr18 offer you 4 pairs of stereo outputs,,, separated: Behringer OUT 1-2, Behringer out 3-4, 5-6, 7-8, listed as if there were 4 audio interfaces working simultaneously, at least thats what s happening in my case,,,so yes, practically it can be done,,,,if you see just out 1-2 at your list, im assuming you have the 2X2 interface checked at your x-air edit (although im not 100% sure), uncheck it and check 18X18, if thats not the case then try opening your sound devices from control panel, sound options, maybe they are listed there but hidden or disabled,,,, but it can be done for sure,,, hope it helps
Do i need to use the behringer app to upload the drivers? Do i just plug the ethernet cable in to download it? Then after open the mixer up? And can i use Mixing station? Thanks
The drivers just need to be installed on the PC itself. They are for Windows, not for the XR18. They're not a firmware upgrade for the console itself.
The audio isn't that clear coming from the computer (bluetooth seems clearer to the speakers) - any suggestions how to make the sound really clean?
That is strange. The USB connection should be the cleanest connection of all. If it's static, dropouts, that kind of thing, I'd suggest a new USB cable. The max length on a standard USB is only like 15' so shorter is better, and you definitely don't want to push it beyond that without looking into a powered USB cable.
But if the audio is just muddy sounding, that can't be a USB issue. Obviously, the data is transferring.
I'd look for any settings in the laptop audio that might be causing issues like an EQ engaged, or some type of 'spatial' settings, or something like being set for 4 speakers when it should just be stereo.
Make sure the channel(s) you have the USB routed to don't have some kind of funky EQ dialed in (just disengage the EQ for testing)... no excessive low cut or hi cut dialed in....
Compression not engaged (or if you want some compression, make sure it's not excessively into gain reduction). Also, double check you don't have something unintended inserted on the USB channels (like a compressor or EQ, etc... and that is where the problem is coming from).
And then, make sure there's not some accidental reverb/delay/chorus dialed up on the USB channel(s) muddying things up.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio thanks. Will keep trying - love your videos by the way - keep up the great work!
@@AlanHamiltonAudio I think it’s an issue with the headphone output or my headphone adapter (when it’s inserted all the way - it gets a overly compressed sound) but through the main speakers the USB music playback is clear.
Hello bro, great video, keep it up man:) I've got little problem, can you help me please? I still cannot detect my XR18 in the X Air Edit.. :( dunno why, cuz i downloaded driver you recomend and selected OUT 1-2 (behringer x-air) in windows audio settings. I got my X-Air 18 connected to pc by USB cable. Thank you for anykind of advice.
The first thing that comes to mind, and it might be how you worded the question and might not actually apply, is that you need two connections- USB only sends the audio signal and not the control signal.
You need an Ethernet/wifi connection as well.
Even if the same computer is sending the audio and also running X-Air Edit. X-Air Edit can't connect over USB. So the USB signal that Windows sees to know to show you OUT 1-2 as an option (X-Air) only means you're partially connected to the mixer. Your control software (X-Air Edit) will need to be connected either thru the Ethernet port or the Wifi.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio Ok man, I will try as soon as possible and thank you for such an early respond:) thank you
@@AlanHamiltonAudio it works😍 thank you so much for your time🙏
@@jankoupeny3923 Glad to help! :)
Hi Allan, Thank you for this video. Can you please help me. What if the PC and the mixer are 70 meters away from each other. How do I connect them both with no problems in the connection?
70 meters makes things more difficult. I'd be using an analog connection myself as the first option in that case (if possible logistically). Computer/MP3 player (headphone out or USB External preamp) into stereo DI and mic lines (or Cat5 to XLR dongles) to stage.
If for some reason, hardwiring wouldn't be practical, it's possible to use high quality RF. If mono is acceptable, a standard but quality wireless mic setup with a beltpack taking the audio player input and the receiver 70 meters away could work.
My first choice would just be to hardwire it.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio Hi Alan. Thank you for the response. My mistake, I'm supposed to say 70 feet which is around 20 meters. Is it still advisable to hardwire it? There are existing active USB extension in the market which looks interesting.
@@lucyfreeman8777 Oh... 70' is much more doable than 70 meters :) . A passive USB cable won't do it, but I'd think an active USB cable would be OK. I think the spec for active extensions is around 150' so you shouldn't have trouble with 70 feet. That said, I've not tried it so I'm just working off published specs and anecdotal reports. But I've seen enough that I would try it and expect it to work... though I'd probably give it a dry run test before putting it in a mission critical application.
Hi, i am new in Midas mr18. what is the function of USB send ? I want to use midas mr18 as an interface to use Zoom classes and want to connect a few mics to communicate through zoom. Can you please assist here ?
Thanks
You should be able to do that. Just change the USB (output) routing to match what Zoom wants... Probably USB1 and USB2 sending L-R to Zoom.
I have a video about livestreaming with the XR18/MR18 and OBS here on the channel. I'm sure that info probably translates to the Zoom connections.
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Hi Alan, thanks so much for a great video but maybe you can help me, in xr 18 software it is picking up my xr 18 but when I click connect nothing happens. Any help ?
I'm not really sure. If it's detecting it I'd expect it to work.
Hi Alan, I have followed your instructions but I am totally frustrated. I have downloaded the XR 18 app on my mac and I also have an I pad with the XR 18 app. I cannot get the XR 18 to recognize incoming sound from the USB in my mac to the XR 18. I have selected the output as "built" in in the mac drop down. When I go to the routing page in the XR 18 app on mac it looks like your demo page. When I click on (off Analogue) No other screen pops up but it does change to a slightly different color so I am not sure if it's doing anything. Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated, Thank You in advance for your time and consideration.
Have you checked the Privacy settings in the Mac's system preferences? Make sure sound settings aren't blocked for new apps.
Hi sir! Just want to ask, can I use the stereo link using only 1 Cable? because I've tried using the stereo link but it's not picking up the audio on the "R" or right, is it possible to use that even If i only put 1 cable in the stereo?
For the analog input you need a TRS 1/8" for out of the computer to two 1/4" TS cable to connect it properly, get both sides, and not get any polarity issues.
Like this:
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Hi in order to get Audio from PC to MR18 without using a DAW let's say via Spotify is there a way to not use USB output 1-2 rather like USB 15-16?
The MR18 itself doesn't care (it has 18 USB inputs/outputs). So it would be up to the computer/software and your ability to change that. But as for how you'd do it, or if there are any additional software bits you could add that would allow you to make that change... I don't know. :(
That said, you can always just soft patch USB 1 and USB 2 to be feeding some other channel(s) of the MR18 within the MR18 itself. So, for example, you could make the stereo Aux In channels (Channel 17-18) 'listen' to USB 1 and USB 2 (instead of their default USB 17 and USB 18).
So if the goal is just not to have your USB audio coming into the console at CHANNELS 1 and 2... you CAN do that within the MR18 by just soft patching USB 1 and USB 2 to feed some other pair of channels.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio yup although using the USB AUX 1 - 2 given option would mean Channel 1 and 2 would be duplicating the audio. So I assume have to skip Analog 1 - 2 and start from 3 onwards if using laptop to play music via USB?
@@AKSKMY Channel 1 and Channel 2 could be set to something else... which if they get their signal from analog pres for example (front panel) then it already is something else in that case (analog 1 and analog 2).
So, you could have channels 1-16 getting their inputs from the preamps, and channels 17-18 getting their signals from USB1 and USB2. So all channels could be used.
Or however it worked out for you... Channels 1-8 could be analog inputs... channels 9-10 could be softpatched to USB1 and USB2... and 11-16 could be using the analog inputs... and 17-18 could be your MP3 player.
How can I remove the USB signal from the main output? I deselect the LR main stereo in the channel but sound is still going out. I am using a multitrack software on my pc assigned to channel 5 and 6
I'm not sure why you'd still have the signal going out if you deselected L-R from the channel(s)... UNLESS... you have one or more of your master monitor feeds (master bus feeds) set to go to the L-R by accident... and the channel(s) with your USB input is still sending to the monitors... and the master monitor send (or sends) is sending it to the house
A similar scenario is described in this Top 5 FAQ video:
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If it's not that... then it's odd... You could probably stop it by going into the channel Config and changing the input on those channels from USB to analog. But stopping it that way, still means SOMETHING else has to be off... somewhere...
I'm betting it's the monitor send or sends with one or more assigned to L-R. Check out the video link I posted above and see if you can track it down from that.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio Perfect. It was exactly that. One of the buses had the master sending LR out. All good now. Thanks a Lot!
@@monteiro4100 Cool! Glad that was it and you got it worked out!
HI there. I'm having a USB issue. I'm connecting my MacBook to my mr18 with a usb cable and followed the steps to set it the aux 17/18 channel(s) but the signal coming from my Mac is incredible loud and is distorting the channel. I have lowered the usb gain to as low as it can go and it's not really made any difference. Any ideas or tips?? Thanks for all the vids, they've been a huge help.
I don't have a Mac so I'm pretty much lost on troubleshooting something like that. Sometimes, it's a problem I'm aware of and have some idea of where to point you that I've heard Mac people talk about. But this issue isn't one I've heard before. :(
@@AlanHamiltonAudio it was a firmware issue. Updated my mixer and all was good. thank you for the reply. I am wondering if you have any thoughts on the Midas 4816-O splitter.
@@smellytele9629 I think a lot of people that are getting it probably are getting it when they shouldn't. For a band that wants to have their own monitor console and send a split to a house rig, I think an analog splitter is the way to go. It just removes complications and variables from the situation. For a band that has their own FOH console AND Monitor console, traveling with their own FOH engineer, then it's a bit different answer. An analog splitter is just plain simple in function and has absolutely no impact between the two consoles as far as mixing goes. No matter what FOH or Mons would do, it won't change the other. The Midas splitter is operating in the digital domain, so any changes made on the monitor console's preamps will change the FOH mix. This means FOH can't do anything much until the band has set their channels onstage and is sure they won't be changing preamps. It's also a line output when the FOH operator will be expecting mic level outputs coming to FOH (since that is normally what they'd get from an analog split). That second part is not necessarily a dealbreaker, but it's still one extra thing to think about or be aware of. Plus, depending on the experience of whoever is at FOH, it can lead to 'surprises' even if you make it clear you're sending line level to FOH. Especially if the FOH engineer isn't following 'best practices' at FOH.
If a band has their own dedicated FOH engineer, then a lot of the variables can be understood and sorted thru and planned for... So the Midas digital split makes a little more sense. It's definitely a cleaner connection and smaller footprint than a 16 channel analog splitter would be. But even then, the band needs to really understand what is going on and not be changing the preamps once they are set... or the band's mon engineer... or band member that has that control. I'm not sure how many bands will really understand that. It just seems like a recipe for trouble in many cases with a band making changes on the monitor console and those changes impacting FOH. I also assume the Midas digital split can be tapped at other points from the monitor console like post-EQ, post-fader, etc... though I haven't checked that. Those would just be additional complications for FOH if someone set things up that way. Once again, not a problem an analog can even have. I see so many routing misconfigurations and signal flow mistakes that I'm certain IF a problem can happen... it will happen.
That’s kinda what I was thinking. Thank you!!
i cant connect my midas mr 18 to pc ..maybe you can help me.i using driver that i downloaded directly from midas tribe website.thx
Thanks Alan, I have an XR16, and trytign to record either via USB to pc or Midi to usb cable, I know I can use the memory stick on usb and internal CR recorder, but I wanted to try direct to PC , is this possible
Unfortunately, I don't think you can use the XR16 as a recording interface to computer. ...Not unless something has changed or I've missed something over the years. I don't have an XR16 so maybe I've missed something in the USB implementation and changes that could've happened in hardware of firmware updates, but AFAIK you have to have at least the X18 to get DAW interface capabilities. If I'm wrong, hopefully someone will see this and update me and you.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio Thanks Alan, as far as the usb is concerned I am gettign that impression due to the lack of info on TH-cam but what about the midi interface, ?
I wouldn't expect it to be able to record audio over MIDI, but I don't know why it couldn't send/receive MIDI information for keyboard or drum machine playback of the actual devices or plugins. But I've always just recorded my MIDI instruments directly to the DAW (or on the DAW) anyway so using the Behringer's MIDI implementations is not something I have experience with. But I wouldn't expect MIDI at all to be a workaround to getting multitrack audio IN/OUT of the XR16 @@billtomlinson3287
@@AlanHamiltonAudio mmmm ok thanks Alan I will study further, I thought I once installed the Behriger USB driver and did get tghe option of that audio but perhaps not even though it appears under XR16 down loads, thanks anyway Alan, (PS: I wasnt after mutli track I know XR16 cant do that anyway, just the stereo like the usb recorder woudl do, )
Hello, is it possible to do the same thing but with several tracks (have out 1-2, out 3-4, ... on the pc that we can assign to different tracks of the xr)
You'll need different software on the PC to output the tracks. Like a DAW. Reaper, Cakewalk, ProTools, etc..
I've got a video that talks about connecting Reaper, but really the process is basically the same for any DAW you'd want to use for your tracks.
th-cam.com/video/xYmJGyroVe0/w-d-xo.html
How can I route the audio for xr 18 if Inhave two different compute one for daw and one for broadcast? Is that possible?
That's not something I've tried. I'm not sure if you can do that, but I can't say for sure.
You can do this but not both over the USB port. Use your aux sends out to send one to the daw and one to the broadcast. It can take a little more adjustments to get the mix right on them but it works.
why wouldn't they make it so that you can control the mixer with the USB connection as well?
I don't know. Maybe they wanted (or needed) to keep all the USB bandwidth they could available for transfer of audio for multi-tracking. The XR18 can send (or return) 18 channels out via USB to a DAW.
I guess because you can control it with your computer via ethernet, just need an adapter to get ethernet into your computer if it doesnt have a port for it already
I downloaded the newest driver, installed it, rebooted my pc and mixer, but windows cant see usb from mixer when i put it in
Make sure you downloaded and installed the USB Audio driver and not the X/UF driver. Also, maybe try the older version of the USB Audio driver. Beyond that, try a different USB cable and switch USB ports.
Is it possible that the usb DriveSaver are only Running on Windows higher than Windows 7 Professional ? I have Nuendo and multiple plug ins running. But can Not activate the usb Audio for the xr18… Any solutions would be highly apreciated ! Thanks !
@@thomasknaufs5958 I don't know. Maybe someone will see this and have and answer.
How does the setup work differently for MAC?
I don't have a Mac to test, but I suspect it should work fine, but doesn't require the driver download. it should work natively I believe.
How could I utilize a 5.1 signal from a browser streaming platform (HBO Max, in that case) and pass it all to Xr18?
That is something I'm not sure about. You'd want to use more of the DAW settings for the XR18 (Like in this video: th-cam.com/video/xYmJGyroVe0/w-d-xo.html ) assuming your way of feeding that info into the XR18 is digital via USB and not taking analog outputs from your 5.1 device.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio I've done some digging in the meantime and for macOS, it seems I'd need to decouple the dolby surround signal (hopefully) coming from a browser player with a virtual audio loopback driver.
Some of the options available are BlackHole (free/on donation), Loopback (paid), VoiceMeeter (paid, but has a Reaper-style trial). There's also a predecessor to Loopback - Soundflower - which has been discontinued and not maintained for a few years now, though.
So I think I'll just tinker with BlackHole (lol) and see where I end up
Hello, idk if you still answer questions on here but im having a hard time just trying to get this set up as a recording interface with studio one.4 full version. I reset the Xair18 back to out of box settings, i followed this video to the T.. i have my speaker plugged in with working cables to the usb 17/18. I see the signal jumping when playing a youtube videonon the mixer Aux but i cant get any sound out of my monitors!? Im just trying to use this as a recording interface first off. I dont understand what could be the issue?
I'm using windows PC. Not a laptop. The drivers and edit program installed and work from everything I can tell. Idk if I have a routing issue or if there's some magical thing I didn't click to make the sound come out of my presounus monitors.. but its very frustrating. I wanna start tracking.. but I can't even hear playback, youtube, mp3s, or previous project tracks. I have tonbe doing something wrong.. I just don't know what.
@@johnnyshivers7310 You say you're seeing signal on the XR18 on the meters but just not able to get sound out of the monitors?
Do you have any headphones or earbuds you could connect to the XR and see if you hear signal from them with your trax playing? Either directly from the L-R or if you SOLO the AUX IN channels.
There's a volume knob for the headphones right beside the headphone jack on the XR18 and by default you should hear the L-R mix in the headphones.
And whether you do or don't, when you SOLO the Aux IN section you should hear it then.
If one or the other of those tests get sound it limits or points in different directions as to what might be going on.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio I have zero sound. Either in the phones or plugged into the XLR monitor to 17/18- 1/4 jack. It's like sound just isn't there. I also can't seem to get playback from the tracks. I told the i/o what tracks to use in the daw. I was able to plug a guitar in and record a track after setting up 16 mono tracks. I then went back into the in/out setting and routed the mains to 17/18 like another video said and nothing.. no signal in the meters jumping. I don't understand why it's just pumping out ANY SOUND.
@@johnnyshivers7310 In X-Air Edit, on channel 17-18 (Aux in), click the INPUT tab and you should see USB enabled (Cyan) and A/D greyed out.
I'm pretty sure you do have that or else you wouldn't see any signal meters, but just to confirm things...
Then switch to the MAIN tab and make sure the the Main Stereo LR button is enabled. It should be ORANGE and not greyed out.
If it's greyed out... enable it.
On that same page, look to the right and see if there are any DCA's enabled. If there are, just tick the enabled ones to eliminate a DCA fader overriding your settings. Or... you could just turn that enabled DCA fader UP if it's turned down. But for troubleshooting, just disabling any DCAs on 17-18 is a quick fix to make sure a DCA is not tripping you up.
Even if you have the wrong things assigned somewhere, if you have input meters on 17 and 18, then you should get SOMETHING outputted from it...
Next, in the top right, click IN/OUT and then go to the MAIN OUT tab. Double check that your MAIN is connected to your MAIN LR... This being wrong could create your symptoms.
And while you're there... the Phones should by default be connected to MONITOR. That won't fix sound not being in the mains, but could address why it isn't in the headphones, plus might help with troubleshooting.
Hopefully, by this point it's working... But if not... Then I guess there could be some random things to check that you probably already have checked... like making sure the channel 17-18 fader is up.... and the Master fader is up. And while you're looking at the Master fader, click on it and then go over to the "channel" tab at the top of X Air Edit. Which, at this point is not really a 'channel' per se that we're looking at.... but the Main bus itself.
On the left side is a channel input section. There is an FX button and Insert point option there.
While it's possible you could have inserted something there and want it ON... to eliminate a mispatch or anything else in the signal path while trying to troubleshoot all of this, set that drop down to OFF and to be double certain, make sure the FX button is disabled and greyed out.
There's not really much else, that I can think of anyway, that would stop signal you ARE getting at 17-18 via the meters not to get to the outputs.
So.. I'm not sure what I did.. its now working. Lol honestly I was nearly about to give up.. so thank you for all the swift and timely advice! But I do now have a different issue.. the xair 18 keeps dropping off and disconnecting from the mixer edit app I think? The track will continue to play but sound drops and the xair doesn't have any signal jumping? Sometimes it plays for a mins.. sometimes 10.. sometimes 13 seconds?
Thank you!
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MacBook m1 with usb c adapter not working any ideas?
IIRC the last Apple OS update added or locked/changed some permissions that had to do with audio interfaces. I don't have anything Apple to check that on, but maybe a Google search about 'USB Audio Interface not working on Mac' might have the answer about whatever it is that needs reset/changed (or changed back). Hopefully that is enough info to ring a bell and get you on the right path to at least check that.
I have the same problem. Let me know if you find a solution please
Hi there, is this also possible with the XR16?
No, it just accepts a USB stick. Doesn't connect to laptop like XR18/MR18 will.
midas mr 18 saya kenapa tidak bisa terkoneksi ke pc ..padahal usb driver sudah terinstal ..mohon dibantu ..terimakasih
How to connect audio to live streaming?
Did you see this video on the channel? Even if you're using something besides OBS, it might help since many of the concepts are the same.
th-cam.com/video/aNlBOOhWbZw/w-d-xo.html
Pan 15 & 16 left/right
Can you hook it up to an mpc?
Akai MPC? Not sure...
Still not having luck with mine. I have the one that's got the slot for a table to sit. It works on my Android and Apple Tablets just fine. BUT my pc always spits up a driver error. AND yes I've installed the right driver, even using "run as administrator", still nothing. Done it like 10 times. NOTHING gets spat out to the PC, tried 10 different type b cables (which work with my Brother Label Maker and 3d printer just fine) on every port on my PC which all work and carry data, even the only USB 2.0 ports I have which are on the front of my case, since the back is Strictly 10Gbs ports and 5Gbs. Windows 10 and the PC I just built is a $14,000 machine, so not underpowered in the slightest, but is AMD. Won't even connect to WIFI via AP mode or WLAN. The driver shows up in the sound settings, but no sound comes out of my mixer to my pc or through its aux out.
What driver error are you getting? I'm not sure what might be up. AFAIK the X18 shouldn't have anything different over the XR18. I've used a laptop with an Intel CPU and both iterations of my AMD desktop. Old one was an FX8350 CPU... new one is a Ryzen 7 5800X. The only hiccup was on the older AMD the newer driver didn't work the first time I tried it so I loaded the the previous driver and it worked fine. I think subsequently the newer driver did work even on that machine, but I've since retired that desktop so I can't say that for sure.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio Unspecified. Just a generic "USB device not recognized" and is the only thing plugged into my USB ports and when I remove the plug from the mixer, so does the error get removed from Device Manager. HMM, maybe it is a Threadripper issue (3990x, as I said that machine is kind of absurdly overpowered for my daily use case, but boy can it play youtube videos); since you have a more "consumer" grade CPU (a good one at that, hence why this time I went team red), the driver support might be more standardised. I'll try it on my Area 51M with the 9th gen intel i9 and 2080, but I don't like that laptop since it lacks the ports (display mostly) that I need.
I downloaded the drivers from Behringer's website last night, so they're really fresh. Even tried installing ASIO driver too, since one forum post suggested that option. It's frustrating, since it does work on my tablets, so it's not a power supply issue. And I doubt it's a German issue; since US sites didn't have it in stock so I ordered it on Thomann, 3 day shipping and $100 less than any US site, from Germany. Thomann was a site that Behringer listed as a retail partner.
@@tdata545 I just looked at the Behringer DL site and didn't see the previous driver. Just the current 4.59 version. I could email you a copy if you want to try loading the previous driver to see if that shakes something loose, or loading it first rebooting, and then loading the newer V4.59 updates something in the process.
ASIO shouldn't be the issue just connecting to Windows except for multitrack recording, and AFAIK the only ASIO driver Behringer will work with is the native driver that installs as part of the USB Driver /X-Air Windows package.
@@AlanHamiltonAudio yes please. I'm all for it. dcoke25 gmail. Thanks.
How do you connect to fl studio
That's one I haven't tried. I'd assume it's basically the same as Reaper. Have you looked at my Behringer to Reaper video to see if anything translates?
@@AlanHamiltonAudio yes. I have. It’s quite similar using focusrite sound card I’m able to record into FL studio but with the Behringer I don’t get any signal so that’s what I wanted to find out.