First time commenting. As many others have said the golden rule is that polyester won't bond to epoxy, but it is all good the other way around. In this instance you need wax in the gelcoat for it to cure. You are able to buy topcoat as a premixed product. It might bond well enough as paint but, be sure not to use any poly products on your hull-repairs. Another tip is when you're working with thickened epoxy it's easy to apply if you put into a plastic peddlers house than scooping it out with the wooden stick. It's also good to see that you figured out the "wet in wet" method. Applying thickened epoxy for fillets and then straight afterwards glassing over it. It saves a lot of time and sanding 😅 I'm a trained boatbuilder and its fun to see you guys tackling problems in your own way! If you have any doubts you're welcome to reach out, and i will see if i can give you some advice🎉
I admire you two, you have come from below but you have put an imprint on the obstacles, in fact you don't get tired of persevering and I like that. I can't help but congratulate you and tell you to keep going. "The possibility of realizing one, several or many Dreams is what makes life INTERESTING. GOOD AFTERNOON. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Hey, never seen tape used when cutting plywood, what a great idea, I’ll use that when I am cutting my access panels in the floor on my narrowboat. It must be nerve racking when you have to cut a hole in the floor 😮. Have a great week. Mick
Sorry about your gel experience. I hope your next product works much better. I can not suggest something better. I have been using deck paint (Deckote) for my stuff but I am using it for the bilge of a dinghy so I have less to loose. ;)
We learn from you every week. Thank you. ❤️🥰❤️🥰❤️ (We’re STILL plugging holes, including the former location of our depth sounder…and we’ve gone off on a tangent with our sail locker covers…uggg…chins up. 😁🤗😎)
You got this! We learn from one another. That's what we love about the sailing community. Do jobs you want to do, at times it's needed. You're working but fun working. Cheers for watching 🙂
Thanks so much! Hope you've had a good week. We're still having fun, but so many little flies. It's not so nice. A sign that summer is coming. Cheers for watching 🙂
There is always complications with projects that you never expected you'll get it straightened out in a bit of time. I have faith in you both. have a good week yourselves ya hear.
It's great to Marina's confidence grow and grow, form the beginning of this adventure, good for you. You'll be building boats by yourself in future tackling all and any job. You have both grown as you learned, you should both be very proud of the work you've achieved here. As I've said before you're both an inspiration to all who watch these videos.
Yr mutual efforts are going to win the challenge !! Sea bird starts looking like a New unit !! It s quite à great sailing boat about dead when you decided to change it. Remember !! Keep going yr overcoming way of life. Nothing bad can stop you . It s a great great work . Thks for sharing
Thanks 👍 We're just trying to enjoy every moment. It's a pretty cool thing fixing up something with your better half. Makes it so much more memorable. Cheers for watching 🙂
You could have bought some flowcoat. It has wax added to make it cure. It can be applied straight over the gel coat. It then would have let the gel cure. I use flow coat for my blige. Sets hard as a rock. Many use gel coat first, then flow coat after to a thicker layer. This lets the flow coat have a chemical bond to the gel coat.
I’ve had over the years encountered similar problems with some finishes that wouldn’t harden and like you just had to start over and get it done properly. There’s one thing for certain when you finish your boat will be much better than new and you will have a personal knowledge of every inch of it something to be proud of. God bless you both.
Upside is having sanded the gelcoated glass in the bilges you'll get a smoother finish on the next coat which will be less susceptible to mould and easier to keep clean. Maybe you should do the same everywhere (if you love sanding)!
Hard to watch the gelcoat fiasco, however this is the sort of thing that always comes along to dent your ego. Once again attitude came to your rescue. Love the show warts and all.
Hey guys, bad things happen. Your positive attitudes helped me many times on my little project, so I'd like to send you good vibes. 😊keep on with your good work...
Once a helper of mine forgot to put hardener on my hull bottom measuring 20 meters by 7 meters and we had to hand scrub it all off and start over, about 3 days lost for 4 crew, what a mess so count your blessings. Great work all round, you are going to have a new honest super well done ship when you finish, keep the faith! SkipRay, Kerry, Ireland.
I may have made the wrong assumption as to where you are from, after seeing your enthusiasm for a Spanish Flag on a boat. My apologies. Your English is still great.
Sorry you had problems with the bilge gelcoat. The Chopin piece was appropriately solemn for the sanding to take it off. Thanks again for the video. It is looking better all the time. Best Wishes.
Nothing worse than removing uncured resin … Cheers to your “quality management” and dogged determination. After seeing you endure the depths of winter, we can see the progress and the light of day. Starting to look like home ! 🙂
I've found that when sanding edges, wrapping the paper around a fat kitchen sponge lets you hit both edges at once without leaving any flat spots. So much cheaper than buying the 'Ready Made' sanding sponges. It's really helpful when wet sanding metal since the sponge holds lots of water and you don't have to keep dipping the sanding block in a bucket...
i had same problem with gel coat , used a barrier etch primer on the new epoxy repairs ,hempel under the water primer it was , solved the problem was expensive 40 buks for 750ml its an epoxy based primer two parts to one part hardner
Super important that if you use acetone to clean bare wood (or ply), you wait a minimum of 30 minutes to allow all of the solvent to evaporate from the timber before applying epoxy resin, either as a surface coat, or a glue. If not, the epoxy can delaminate.
Looks like your boat is coming together nicely have you looked at foaming epoxy to fill the space in the engine bay. If you want to see a video of it used have a look at refit and sail as he refills a skeg.
Even though the plywood is only the first layer in the flooring it looks good after having epoxy put on it.. you could always get some either light(birch) or dark marine ply for the top layer and just add several coats of varnish to give it that shiny look.. a light color floor will make the space seem larger to your eye..
If you're feeling a bit disappointed take a look at RAN sailings hull turn two people turning a 50ft boat hull build.🤯 You will find what you need both of you.🤞🏻👍🏻🧙🏻♂️🇬🇧⛵
@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 they're building a brand new boat on a hobby farm that they bought where money obviously isn't a problem.. that's a totally different situation than Stew & Marina trying to live their dreams by making a old abandoned sailboat seaworthy again... majority of the time they were having to take 6 months off to raise money for their project.. also Ran sailing has plenty of friends and family members who will gladly come help them anytime they need help.
@@bendaves77 It wasn't the fact that it's a new boat it's that they turned the hull between the two of them .. I know these two have had to graft and scavenge to make this work. I've been following them since they met up with wilding Sailing and they launched their, Wildings, old cat. As to my own status lol .. I've had a lifetime plus of Wombling my way through the world. I also know the area they are in and it's hard going between the industry the Mistral the extreme humid heat and the Carmargues vicious Mosquitos.. That's without fires that spring up most summers but that's why Marian is the base for the water bombers. RAN sold Ran 2 and had to head home because Johan's father was diagnosed with terminal cancer... So it ended their planned 🌎journey.
The space under the engine could prove very handy when replacing engine mounts or other maintenance tasks, IMO I would keep the bilge under the engine. 😊
Gelcoat/flowcoat will have issues sticking to contaminated fibreglass so I have found. Being the bilge it might have old residue despite being cleaned. Heads up, your learnt and moved on. All part of the journey. I would not fill in all the deep bilge area. Keep one part deep for a pump to suck from and I would not put that under the engine, but thats me. Good luck moving forward.
Stu, I think you've already realised the best paint for your bilges is a 2-pot polyurethane. The standard rule-of-thumb for resins is epoxy will stick to anything but polyester (gelcoat) won't stick to epoxy. I understand you used epoxy for your tabbing hence your problems with the gelcoat not sticking to it. Only use gelcoat if you need to fix small patch repairs on the outside hull or deck. Even then you will have trouble matching the aged gelcoat. Better to sand the whole hull and decks and spray the new linier polyurethanes such as Akzo Nobel's Awlgrip.
Was that just gelcoat or did it have a wax additive, making it flow coat/top coat? Without the wax it will not cure hard while in contact with oxygen. I think the age of the gelcoat could be a factor, and so would be the amount of catalyst. Love the videos, guys!
That's what we've heard. Found a German epoxy company. Just waiting to for a reply, hopefully Monday. Then take it from there. Loads cheaper, 2 pack, works on fibreglass. So we'll see what they say. Cheers for watching 🙂
@@SailingSeabird I use 1xPrimer and 2x Bilgepaint. Should be oil and diesel resistant. Some areas only 1x paint seems thick enough to me. And i go for friendly gray :-) BTW Fighting one whole day with single M6 screw. Totally rotten. Loosing so far but tomorrow i will go for it with big grinder... hehe .. Keep on going and kind regards Thomas
Hello again. Another interesting week of work on your boat. Just a question, what is that hole you drilled in the bottom at about 15:30 time on your video? I looked and looked but couldn't find out what you said about it. Looking forward to next week! Thanks, ciao. geo
That's the depth sounder and speedo. Airmar 800dt I think. Works with the tridata instrument. Hopefully on this boat it's level, more or less... Cheers for watching 🙂
An idea of mine, (old experienced sxperimental mechanic) when it comes to cutting out squares of a given structure. DON'T try to drill a hole for the saw NEXT to the edge that you wanna create. Let there be be a bit of a distance and cut it right with the saw. Use the drill just to have a starting polnt for your saw.. It won't cost more than a few seconds and makes the job a lot easier.
Guys, I reckon your channel is one of the best on TH-cam, pure grind, pure work, within your budget, no frills, from damaged to starting to take shape, a vessel you can be truly proud of. Love your work.
Probably a bit late now, but what I think is going on with the Gelcoat, is this.... Some Gelcoats are supposed to be sticky on the exposed side, quite sticky. It's for coating moulds, before laying up. For example, if you put a piece of chopped strand mat on it, rubbed it in a bit, then pulled it off, you'd have quite a bit of mat left on the gelcoat. If it's coming off wet on your fingers, then yes, you have a problem, try painting a bit of catalyst over it, it's thick, and difficult to mix thoroughly. "Flow coat" would suit you better in that application. I spent year working with the evil stuff..........
Spot on. The molds are coated with a releasing agent, then gel coated, then the fiberglass is applied. Flo coat is used over the finished fiberglass floor to lay down smooth and shiny.
Good to. keep a deep spot in the bilge, so if a small amount of water will only be in small area. If water is spread across length of boat the humidity will be much higher.
Well done on all you have achieved so far both of you are doing an amazing job , also producing some great content as you go , slightly concerned your still renting accommodation are you hoping to get back on board this summer at some point ? 😊
You need 'flocoat' in the gelcoat paint. It contains wax which migrates to the surface and then does the same job as peelply... The resin won't fully cure unless the oxygen in the air is fully excluded.
The area below the engine you want to fill in and raise the floor, fill with close cell foam. It comes in two liquid parts, mixed together to make foam. Pour it in with small batches to the level you want and flatten to the height you want. Then fiberglass over for a solid and cleanable floor below the engine.
The thought went through my mind. Then I thought it was pretty funny 😁 So close, yet so far. There's no point stressing it. There will be bigger problems ahead. Cheers for watching 🙂
My guess would be that it was to thick in those areas, it wasn't quite mixed enough or there was something on the surface that wasn't letting it set. But hey, shit happens, it's all about how you deal with it.
install an eazy drip oil valve on the engine oil pan so that you can easily drain it. make use of the space directly below the engine, use packing tape as a release agent, and make a custom fit container with grp by laminating over the tape. this container will receive the oil drip from above. you just have to make sure you dont have any negative angles, ie, that you dont laminate the container in a way it self locks. also make sure you can remove once all its put together (engine compartment doors, etc, etc, etc) now its the time to do this kind of stuff because you have access and you can make a mess. unlucky with that gelcoat get a cheap 2 part epoxy product, you dont need anything fancy there, just some thing that sticks like shit to linen and its easy to clean in the future. keep trucking
The main sheet fittings (not a track, just a u-bolt) goes behind the arch, forward of the aft hatch. Are you wondering whether the sheet will get caught on the arch? We tried, it should be good. If not we can install a track, but I'd rather keep it simple. Cheers for watching 🙂
😂 hola el agua y los botes 😅 no son compatibles cuando hay muchos hoyos de bajo del casco y si el motor necesita pero debe estar al lado y comodo de reparar por alguna averia y para mi logica deveria estar a los costados del casco y si es mejor y mas seguro 🔐 paz buen trabajo .
First time commenting. As many others have said the golden rule is that polyester won't bond to epoxy, but it is all good the other way around. In this instance you need wax in the gelcoat for it to cure.
You are able to buy topcoat as a premixed product.
It might bond well enough as paint but, be sure not to use any poly products on your hull-repairs.
Another tip is when you're working with thickened epoxy it's easy to apply if you put into a plastic peddlers house than scooping it out with the wooden stick.
It's also good to see that you figured out the "wet in wet" method. Applying thickened epoxy for fillets and then straight afterwards glassing over it. It saves a lot of time and sanding 😅
I'm a trained boatbuilder and its fun to see you guys tackling problems in your own way! If you have any doubts you're welcome to reach out, and i will see if i can give you some advice🎉
You're getting there, keep the faith.
Thank you.
Step by step.
Cheers for watching 🙂
I admire you two, you have come from below but you have put an imprint on the obstacles, in fact you don't get tired of persevering and I like that. I can't help but congratulate you and tell you to keep going.
"The possibility of realizing one, several or many Dreams is what makes life INTERESTING.
GOOD AFTERNOON.
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Thank you.
It's crazy that people say this.
It's our job, and all the viewers make it all possible.
Cheers for watching 🙂
Stay the course.
Remember that the mind only smiles at the prepared mind
Love your weekly posts. Very inspiring with all its ups and downs. Keep up the good work
Thank you! Will do!
We are glad you enjoy the videos.
Cheers for watching 🙂
Keep plugging along, I'll keep on watching, can't wait to see you splash and start sailing !
😍😍Positive thoughts is the secret.
Lots of nice work accomplished this week despite the damn gelcoat... thank you for sharing this dream with us.😀
Hey, never seen tape used when cutting plywood, what a great idea, I’ll use that when I am cutting my access panels in the floor on my narrowboat. It must be nerve racking when you have to cut a hole in the floor 😮. Have a great week. Mick
Hi Stuart and Marina nice video floor is coming on nicely well done with the cockpit drainholes look great 😊😊
Glad you like them!
Let's hope they work.
Cheers for watching 🙂
Sorry about your gel experience. I hope your next product works much better. I can not suggest something better. I have been using deck paint (Deckote) for my stuff but I am using it for the bilge of a dinghy so I have less to loose. ;)
Thanks for the tips!
We aren't sure what we'll go for.
Cheers for watching 🙂
We learn from you every week. Thank you. ❤️🥰❤️🥰❤️ (We’re STILL plugging holes, including the former location of our depth sounder…and we’ve gone off on a tangent with our sail locker covers…uggg…chins up. 😁🤗😎)
You got this!
We learn from one another.
That's what we love about the sailing community.
Do jobs you want to do, at times it's needed.
You're working but fun working.
Cheers for watching 🙂
@@SailingSeabird 😎Great advice! ❤️❤️❤️
Hey, we live and learn. Love your positive attitude. You're doing great, Marina and Stu!
Thanks so much!
Hope you've had a good week.
We're still having fun, but so many little flies. It's not so nice.
A sign that summer is coming.
Cheers for watching 🙂
Don’t sweat the small stuff. 100 steps forward, an occasional few steps backwards. Goes with the territory👍 crack on, Sea Bird is looking great!
There is always complications with projects that you never expected you'll get it straightened out in a bit of time. I have faith in you both. have a good week yourselves ya hear.
Thank you for the encouragement.
Cheers for watching 🙂
Another Awesome video this week! Thank you so much for sharing!
You are so welcome!
Cheers for watching 🙂
It's great to Marina's confidence grow and grow, form the beginning of this adventure, good for you. You'll be building boats by yourself in future tackling all and any job. You have both grown as you learned, you should both be very proud of the work you've achieved here. As I've said before you're both an inspiration to all who watch these videos.
Love to see the paint going on. Absolutely showing progress now.
Se que quedara seguro 🔐 para que flote 😊 buen trabajo ⚒ 😊
Love your attitude and I see a big future full of adventures and mostly a successful YT channel
Looking good. on your way.
Thanks 👍
Cheers for watching 🙂
Keep up the good work! There's always going to be plusses and minuses. It's all about how you tackle them!
Very true!
Snakes and ladders.
Cheers for watching 🙂
Yr mutual efforts are going to win the challenge !!
Sea bird starts looking like a New unit !!
It s quite à great sailing boat about dead when you decided to change it. Remember !!
Keep going yr overcoming way of life.
Nothing bad can stop you .
It s a great great work .
Thks for sharing
Just love your working together on your dream boat best of luck 👍
Thanks 👍
We're just trying to enjoy every moment.
It's a pretty cool thing fixing up something with your better half.
Makes it so much more memorable.
Cheers for watching 🙂
Your positive attitude towards problems is amazing. It’s a huge project
You could have bought some flowcoat. It has wax added to make it cure. It can be applied straight over the gel coat. It then would have let the gel cure. I use flow coat for my blige. Sets hard as a rock.
Many use gel coat first, then flow coat after to a thicker layer. This lets the flow coat have a chemical bond to the gel coat.
That must have been where I went wrong, no wax!
You live and learn.
Cheers for watching 🙂
I’ve had over the years encountered similar problems with some finishes that wouldn’t harden and like you just had to start over and get it done properly. There’s one thing for certain when you finish your boat will be much better than new and you will have a personal knowledge of every inch of it something to be proud of. God bless you both.
We honestly worry that we aren't doing a good enough job.
Only time will tell.
Cheers for watching 🙂
Worries about not doing a good enough job usually ends up in doing a good job !
Upside is having sanded the gelcoated glass in the bilges you'll get a smoother finish on the next coat which will be less susceptible to mould and easier to keep clean.
Maybe you should do the same everywhere (if you love sanding)!
Another great video Amigo and Amiga!!
Thanks for the visit.
Cheers for watching 🙂
Marvelous job on this massive project, these two really know what they are doing.
Thank you.
Tbh, we have no real idea.
We are giving it a go and learning on the job.
Cheers for watching 🙂
I fiberglassed our 30 ft flush deck cutter and the resin didn't kick spent 2 days spatula acetone etc
I think you can't say you've done a boat refit without taking off uncured resin.
It was bound to happen...
Cheers for watching 🙂
Hard to watch the gelcoat fiasco, however this is the sort of thing that always comes along to dent your ego. Once again attitude came to your rescue. Love the show warts and all.
It's not that bad.
Only, its put us back a week or so until we find another product.
Cheers for watching 🙂
The music was perfect for sanding.... Again
Agree.
Always enjoy Marinas choice in music.
Cheers for watching 🙂
Thanks!
Hey guys, bad things happen. Your positive attitudes helped me many times on my little project, so I'd like to send you good vibes. 😊keep on with your good work...
⛵️ ⛵️ ⛵️ Phil...
Hiya Phil!
Cheers for watching 🙂
Once a helper of mine forgot to put hardener on my hull bottom measuring 20 meters by 7 meters and we had to hand scrub it all off and start over, about 3 days lost for 4 crew, what a mess so count your blessings. Great work all round, you are going to have a new honest super well done ship when you finish, keep the faith! SkipRay, Kerry, Ireland.
Ouch!
I am very grateful it was only three little sections, not the whole bilge.
Cheers for watching 🙂
In french something say : " ce qui ne te tue pas te rend plus fort ! " lets go for your goal ! Its not finish ! Venga venga !!! Kisses from Belgium 😜
Great patience, stick with it!
Marina, where did you learn your English? It's soooo good, I wish my French was a fraction as good. Stay at it. Good luck to you both.
I may have made the wrong assumption as to where you are from, after seeing your enthusiasm for a Spanish Flag on a boat. My apologies. Your English is still great.
Sorry you had problems with the bilge gelcoat. The Chopin piece was appropriately solemn for the sanding to take it off. Thanks again for the video. It is looking better all the time. Best Wishes.
Keep going you both are doing very well
Thank you so much 😀
Cheers for watching 🙂
Hello there Marina and Stu,
Was wondering, do you two have a snail mail addy?
Yeah, but best to contact us via email.
Sailingseabird@mail.com
Cheers for watching 🙂
Yes, yes, yes it's Friday! Yet another great surprise for me, as, I forgot...again! Just had to add, oooohhh! The Chopin! 👍👍👍
Enjoy!
Cheers for watching 🙂
Got to say all the hard work seems to be paying off and progress seems to be picking up. Also think stuart your woodwork is improving 🙂
Nothing worse than removing uncured resin … Cheers to your “quality management” and dogged determination. After seeing you endure the depths of winter, we can see the progress and the light of day. Starting to look like home ! 🙂
I've found that when sanding edges, wrapping the paper around a fat kitchen sponge lets you hit both edges at once without leaving any flat spots. So much cheaper than buying the 'Ready Made' sanding sponges. It's really helpful when wet sanding metal since the sponge holds lots of water and you don't have to keep dipping the sanding block in a bucket...
It's great to see construction rather than destruction, the vessel is starting to take shape!
But very slowly 🐌😕
It will come.
Cheers for watching 🙂
Awesome job guys luv watching thank you
You make progress it comes alright 👍👍
You're doing great !!!! Keep it up and you'll be on the ocean in no time at all :)
We hope so!
It will come. Luckily, the ocean isn't going anywhere.
Cheers for watching 🙂
i had same problem with gel coat , used a barrier etch primer on the new epoxy repairs ,hempel under the water primer it was , solved the problem was expensive 40 buks for 750ml its an epoxy based primer two parts to one part hardner
Super important that if you use acetone to clean bare wood (or ply), you wait a minimum of 30 minutes to allow all of the solvent to evaporate from the timber before applying epoxy resin, either as a surface coat, or a glue. If not, the epoxy can delaminate.
Looks like your boat is coming together nicely have you looked at foaming epoxy to fill the space in the engine bay. If you want to see a video of it used have a look at refit and sail as he refills a skeg.
Yeeaah noooo. I celebrated too soon. Looked great for a minute.
Even though the plywood is only the first layer in the flooring it looks good after having epoxy put on it.. you could always get some either light(birch) or dark marine ply for the top layer and just add several coats of varnish to give it that shiny look.. a light color floor will make the space seem larger to your eye..
Great point!
Thanks for the suggestions.
Cheers for watching 🙂
If you're feeling a bit disappointed take a look at
RAN sailings hull turn two people turning a 50ft boat hull build.🤯 You will find what you need both of you.🤞🏻👍🏻🧙🏻♂️🇬🇧⛵
@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 they're building a brand new boat on a hobby farm that they bought where money obviously isn't a problem.. that's a totally different situation than Stew & Marina trying to live their dreams by making a old abandoned sailboat seaworthy again... majority of the time they were having to take 6 months off to raise money for their project.. also Ran sailing has plenty of friends and family members who will gladly come help them anytime they need help.
@@bendaves77
It wasn't the fact that it's a new boat it's that they turned the hull
between the two of them ..
I know these two have had to graft and scavenge to make this work. I've been following them since they met up with wilding Sailing and they launched their, Wildings, old cat.
As to my own status lol .. I've had a lifetime plus of Wombling my way through the world. I also know the area they are in and it's hard going between the industry the Mistral the extreme humid heat and the Carmargues vicious Mosquitos.. That's without fires that spring up most summers but that's why Marian is the base for the water bombers.
RAN sold Ran 2 and had to head home because Johan's father was diagnosed with terminal cancer... So it ended their planned 🌎journey.
The space under the engine could prove very handy when replacing engine mounts or other maintenance tasks, IMO I would keep the bilge under the engine. 😊
Maybe try some pickup truck bed liner. Tough, rubberised paint. flexible, water resistant. I've always though it would be an excellent bilge coating.
Thanks
100% agree with ya stu always better to have to bigger wood, just take a bit of finesse to get it all the way in the gap.😜
It is never a foul up if there is a lesson learned. You guys are doing great.
Thank you for the vote of confidence.
Hopefully, taking two is better.
Cheers for watching 🙂
😂 gracias por el video, muy importante si algun dia uno preparando 😅 lleva tiempo y experiencia. 😊
Gelcoat/flowcoat will have issues sticking to contaminated fibreglass so I have found. Being the bilge it might have old residue despite being cleaned. Heads up, your learnt and moved on. All part of the journey. I would not fill in all the deep bilge area. Keep one part deep for a pump to suck from and I would not put that under the engine, but thats me. Good luck moving forward.
Love ya videos, I’m assuming every coat top and under you do the sides as that where the water will seep in
That is correct!
Cheers for watching 🙂
Filling that gap under the engine, I think Epoxy resin and micro balloons might be the solution.
Stu, I think you've already realised the best paint for your bilges is a 2-pot polyurethane. The standard rule-of-thumb for resins is epoxy will stick to anything but polyester (gelcoat) won't stick to epoxy. I understand you used epoxy for your tabbing hence your problems with the gelcoat not sticking to it. Only use gelcoat if you need to fix small patch repairs on the outside hull or deck. Even then you will have trouble matching the aged gelcoat. Better to sand the whole hull and decks and spray the new linier polyurethanes such as Akzo Nobel's Awlgrip.
Was that just gelcoat or did it have a wax additive, making it flow coat/top coat? Without the wax it will not cure hard while in contact with oxygen. I think the age of the gelcoat could be a factor, and so would be the amount of catalyst. Love the videos, guys!
I used garage floor paint on my bilge - it lasted years and was cheap
That's what we've heard.
Found a German epoxy company. Just waiting to for a reply, hopefully Monday. Then take it from there.
Loads cheaper, 2 pack, works on fibreglass.
So we'll see what they say.
Cheers for watching 🙂
It is looking good. Woopsies happen. Dont worry.
Oddly not worried.
I'm getting calmer in my old age.
We'll sort it.
Thanks for your positive comments. They keep us going.
Cheers for watching 🙂
The rescue of your boat is really progressing!
Why do you use Gelcoat inside the bilge? There exists special bilge paint. very easy to apply.
Gelcoat is tougher, I thought.
But yeah, mistake 😕
We're looking for another product.
Cheers for watching 🙂
@@SailingSeabird I use 1xPrimer and 2x Bilgepaint. Should be oil and diesel resistant. Some areas only 1x paint seems thick enough to me. And i go for friendly gray :-) BTW Fighting one whole day with single M6 screw. Totally rotten. Loosing so far but tomorrow i will go for it with big grinder... hehe .. Keep on going and kind regards Thomas
Hello again. Another interesting week of work on your boat. Just a question, what is that hole you drilled in the bottom at about 15:30 time on your video? I looked and looked but couldn't find out what you said about it. Looking forward to next week! Thanks, ciao. geo
That's the depth sounder and speedo. Airmar 800dt I think. Works with the tridata instrument.
Hopefully on this boat it's level, more or less...
Cheers for watching 🙂
An idea of mine, (old experienced sxperimental mechanic) when it comes to cutting out squares of a given structure. DON'T try to drill a hole for the saw NEXT to the edge that you wanna create. Let there be be a bit of a distance and cut it right with the saw. Use the drill just to have a starting polnt for your saw.. It won't cost more than a few seconds and makes the job a lot easier.
Great tip!
I think I get what you mean. Will try it out next time.
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Great progress!
Guys, I reckon your channel is one of the best on TH-cam, pure grind, pure work, within your budget, no frills, from damaged to starting to take shape, a vessel you can be truly proud of. Love your work.
Thank you for those kind words.
We really want to go exploring with the boat.
It's sometimes forgotten.
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No journey is without a few bumps along the way. Will be great when it's done ☺
So true!
Here's hoping 🙏
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Probably a bit late now, but what I think is going on with the Gelcoat, is this....
Some Gelcoats are supposed to be sticky on the exposed side, quite sticky.
It's for coating moulds, before laying up.
For example, if you put a piece of chopped strand mat on it, rubbed it in a bit, then pulled it off, you'd have quite a bit of mat left on the gelcoat.
If it's coming off wet on your fingers, then yes, you have a problem, try painting a bit of catalyst over it, it's thick, and difficult to mix thoroughly.
"Flow coat" would suit you better in that application.
I spent year working with the evil stuff..........
Spot on. The molds are coated with a releasing agent, then gel coated, then the fiberglass is applied. Flo coat is used over the finished fiberglass floor to lay down smooth and shiny.
gel-coat is meant to remain tacky, you need top-coat which has a wax additive
I think that's where I went wrong, but I'd done test patches 😤
You win some...
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Good to. keep a deep spot in the bilge, so if a small amount of water will only be in small area. If water is spread across length of boat the humidity will be much higher.
Set back but lesson learnt, stay positive. Keep the faith Team Seabird ❤❤❤
Wrong paint, minor problem. Nothing a little sanding can't solve, I guess. Meanwhile, the channel is getting really BIG! Congrats for that. Cheers!
Well done on all you have achieved so far both of you are doing an amazing job , also producing some great content as you go , slightly concerned your still renting accommodation are you hoping to get back on board this summer at some point ? 😊
Thanks so much!
You have no reason to be concerned, its all good. 😉
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@@SailingSeabird brilliant thanks for clarifying keep plodding on 👍
Si se ve super resistente 😅
You need 'flocoat' in the gelcoat paint. It contains wax which migrates to the surface and then does the same job as peelply... The resin won't fully cure unless the oxygen in the air is fully excluded.
Or you can put plastic over the top to help cure the gelcoat.
Some good, some bad also sums up well all my boat projects
😂🤣😅
A giant game of snakes and ladders.
Still, wouldn't change it.
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Damn shame about the Gelcoat, but still making great progress. 👍
It's a little pain, but nothing major.
There will be far bigger problems to deal along the way.
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Stay positive and keep going 🎉🎉🎉
The area below the engine you want to fill in and raise the floor, fill with close cell foam. It comes in two liquid parts, mixed together to make foam. Pour it in with small batches to the level you want and flatten to the height you want. Then fiberglass over for a solid and cleanable floor below the engine.
Brilliant idea!
Thank you for the advice.
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Well done for not having a proper hissy fit over the gel coat failure. Some people would have kicked out the jack stands and walked away!
The thought went through my mind.
Then I thought it was pretty funny 😁
So close, yet so far.
There's no point stressing it. There will be bigger problems ahead.
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Thanks 😊
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Part of the ship, part of the crew! 😂
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My guess would be that it was to thick in those areas, it wasn't quite mixed enough or there was something on the surface that wasn't letting it set. But hey, shit happens, it's all about how you deal with it.
Gelcoat needs to have a wax in it for it to cure as a top coat.
There was definitely that went wrong.
The odd thing is we tried it on different surfaces.
Not a huge issue.
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Hard luck, hopefully it goes better with another paint
install an eazy drip oil valve on the engine oil pan so that you can easily drain it.
make use of the space directly below the engine, use packing tape as a release agent, and make a custom fit container with grp by laminating over the tape. this container will receive the oil drip from above.
you just have to make sure you dont have any negative angles, ie, that you dont laminate the container in a way it self locks. also make sure you can remove once all its put together (engine compartment doors, etc, etc, etc)
now its the time to do this kind of stuff because you have access and you can make a mess.
unlucky with that gelcoat
get a cheap 2 part epoxy product, you dont need anything fancy there, just some thing that sticks like shit to linen and its easy to clean in the future.
keep trucking
You don’t need 40k subs….. You 2 are timeless
Thank you.
We are only being ourselves.
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@@SailingSeabird Stay the Course. 🌏🌍🌎
You've built the solar arch. Where does the mainsheet run on that boat?
The main sheet fittings (not a track, just a u-bolt) goes behind the arch, forward of the aft hatch.
Are you wondering whether the sheet will get caught on the arch?
We tried, it should be good.
If not we can install a track, but I'd rather keep it simple.
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My first sailing trip was in my basket, carried aboard by my dad. In 1953. I'm still sailing today. If something CAN catch. It WILL. 😅😅😅
Part of the ship part of the crew 😂😂
We had a flower petal land on the wet epoxy.
It looks quite nice. 😅🤣😂
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Beer makes all disappointments less painful 🍺
Very true! 🍻
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😂 hola el agua y los botes 😅 no son compatibles cuando hay muchos hoyos de bajo del casco y si el motor necesita pero debe estar al lado y comodo de reparar por alguna averia y para mi logica deveria estar a los costados del casco y si es mejor y mas seguro 🔐 paz buen trabajo .