Thanks for this. I think part of the issue is other online leftist commentators seem to ask you to represent Platypus, which is unfair to both you and us (Platypus). We have plenty of members capable of representing the organization and its history, and Burgis and others should really consider inviting Platypus members if they want to ask about specifics of our organization. Otherwise they are unfortunately just dealing with rumors.
Yeah, it’s been a decade since I was in the org and I also answered to the NYC branch primarily and the other the branch was the one Carrie and I founded in Korea. Plus most of sources of information were people who left the org under mixed or hostile grounds. I have been asked to speak about it several times, and I frankly rather not. When I left the org, people I was working with who also left the org did things that I thought was beyond the pale such as linking the entire listserv to a hostile organization and accusing the leadership of this I didn’t think was true. Bad times. As I have good relationships with more than one current member, it’s important to me that I don’t misrepresent it and even if I didn’t. If I am wrong, I correct myself
"The Personal is Political", I have been on the left my entire adult life (1988 HS grad), and have had so many highs and lows, but mostly political heartbreak, disappointment, disillusionment etc. so I find it very helpful to hear other leftist's experiences. I've coped by diving in deep, retreating for self-help, and going back out again. Not sustainable.
Speaking of Rumours: 1st- Dreams 2nd- The Chain 3rd- Gold Dust Woman 4th- Go Your Own Way 5th- Don't Stop 6th I Don't Want to Know 7th- Oh Daddy 8th- Songbird 7th Second Hand News 8th - Never Going Back Again 9th You Make Loving Fun This is about how it goes when trying to work together. MMT: cart/ horse horse/ cart Me rubbing my eyes
Oh man, and I was still expecting Any of those dudes (Lain, Chapo, Burgis etc) te mention once, at least, Andre Gide's USSR Volumes from 100 years ago (!!!) (maybe bring up "Corydon", too - while at it) - as I believe that those still define a Certain Epistemic Gold Standard, belonging to a Pioneer and a Real Great.... No chance of a bare Mention - and I know, it's a bit hyperspecific but hey!. But they do this with Everything, not only History. Pick and chose, depending on the momemnt's grift. Aaaaanyway.... None of these people have any business with Integrity.... I feel like.... (coming from a 1979 born Romanian) I've seen a whole lot - it's a world dominated by pseuds and schmucks. Keep up the good work!
Lmao I remember Platypus from like ten years ago. They were just a bunch of weird Marxist academics in Boston and no one outside of their clique took them seriously.
Varn: "A Quick Statement"
Also Varn: 2:21:57
HAHAHAHAHA my very first thought seeing this.
I read it as "21 minutes" until after 20 minutes I realized it was TWO HOURS and 21 minutes LOL. I'll "nosh" on the rest of it later.
@@shanihandel9621 same, but I thoroughly enjoyed each of the "quick" 2 hours, 21 minutes and 57 seconds
As it should be. Fine Marxism analysis
"Papa? What's a quick statement?"
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Thanks for this. I think part of the issue is other online leftist commentators seem to ask you to represent Platypus, which is unfair to both you and us (Platypus). We have plenty of members capable of representing the organization and its history, and Burgis and others should really consider inviting Platypus members if they want to ask about specifics of our organization. Otherwise they are unfortunately just dealing with rumors.
Yeah, it’s been a decade since I was in the org and I also answered to the NYC branch primarily and the other the branch was the one Carrie and I founded in Korea. Plus most of sources of information were people who left the org under mixed or hostile grounds. I have been asked to speak about it several times, and I frankly rather not. When I left the org, people I was working with who also left the org did things that I thought was beyond the pale such as linking the entire listserv to a hostile organization and accusing the leadership of this I didn’t think was true. Bad times. As I have good relationships with more than one current member, it’s important to me that I don’t misrepresent it and even if I didn’t. If I am wrong, I correct myself
there's the minuteman & then there's Varn.
Appreciate this
"The Personal is Political", I have been on the left my entire adult life (1988 HS grad), and have had so many highs and lows, but mostly political heartbreak, disappointment, disillusionment etc. so I find it very helpful to hear other leftist's experiences. I've coped by diving in deep, retreating for self-help, and going back out again. Not sustainable.
"Quick" as in made quick, held fast, set in stone.... obviously >.>
This got real off-topic from the intended "quick statement" real quick. But I'm not complaining, the result was actually really interesting stuff.
Speaking of Rumours:
1st- Dreams 2nd- The Chain 3rd- Gold Dust Woman 4th- Go Your Own Way
5th- Don't Stop 6th I Don't Want to Know 7th- Oh Daddy 8th- Songbird 7th Second Hand News 8th - Never Going Back Again 9th You Make Loving Fun
This is about how it goes when trying to work together.
MMT: cart/ horse horse/ cart
Me rubbing my eyes
Now do Tusk
@@BPudashen ❤
Varn the bad boy.
When are we going to make mmmt Marxists modern monetary theory?
Don’t get Varn started… Or do, actually.
Oh man, and I was still expecting Any of those dudes (Lain, Chapo, Burgis etc) te mention once, at least, Andre Gide's USSR Volumes from 100 years ago (!!!) (maybe bring up "Corydon", too - while at it) - as I believe that those still define a Certain Epistemic Gold Standard, belonging to a Pioneer and a Real Great.... No chance of a bare Mention - and I know, it's a bit hyperspecific but hey!. But they do this with Everything, not only History. Pick and chose, depending on the momemnt's grift. Aaaaanyway.... None of these people have any business with Integrity.... I feel like.... (coming from a 1979 born Romanian) I've seen a whole lot - it's a world dominated by pseuds and schmucks. Keep up the good work!
Lmao I remember Platypus from like ten years ago. They were just a bunch of weird Marxist academics in Boston and no one outside of their clique took them seriously.
To be fair, doesn't that just describe Marxists in general?