09.12.1985.- Lakers@Rockets: Abdul-Jabbar & Magic vs ''Twin Towers'', 80's Classic
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- In a preview of 1986 WCF, Rockets and Lakers squared off in a packed Forum for the first time in 85/86 campaign and played one of the best regular season games in the 80's. Just check these numbers:
Hakeem Olajuwon: 29 points, 13 rebounds, 14/24 FG.
Ralph Sampson: 32 points, 9 rebounds, 9 assists, 14/23 FG.
Kareem Abdul Jabbar: 35 points, 7 rebounds, 17/26 FG.
Magic Johnson 18 points, 14 assists, 6/11 FG.
Great battle in the paint between 38-year-old Jabbar and young ''Twin Towers'', Olajuwon and Sampson.
Lakers won the game 120:112.
One thing i take away from this video is that Sampson, Olajuwon, Magic and Kareem were unbelievably skilled players, not to mention Worthy and Scott too
Kareem had some of his best games against Ralph and Olajuwan! This same season he went into Houston and put up 46pts against them!
Abdul-- Jabbar was clearly past his prime but still scored effortlessly against the two young big men once again proving his greatness
The scary part is that Kareem was still First Team All-NBA that season
@@DanielSong39 And was the reigning Finals MVP at 38. They don't know anything about Kareem in the 70's, he was like big foot or the lochness monster, he was that frightening of a match up & mythic of a player. I always think how good was Wilt if at his old age he somewhat held his own on a young Kareem 🤔
Kareem was old but he got up for the games against the good centers.
Well yes, he dominated in this game and got some nice numbers in the WCF showdown with the Rockets, but overall the Twin Towers got the best of him in that series. Had they not, the Lakers would have won...
And to think, 2 years later, he had 32 points and 4 blocks against the Celtics, Game 6 clincher 1987 Finals
I was 13 in 85. I saw this game. Magic and Kareem best duo.
Worthy too. He was showtime with Magic
You’ll never see that many skilled big men on one court again. So much talent.
Not with this high school zone they allow now.
Interesting fun fact:
This might be the only playoff series in NBA history to have 5 different players (Kareem, Earvin, James, Ralph and Hakeem):
....to have been selected #1 in their draft class.
@@FuShengAlex made up fact by a troll
@@nonamewillbegiven6136 prove me wrong sockpuppet.....name another series with 5 different #1 draft picks?
@@FuShengAlex thats pretty irrelevant since Anthony Bennett is a number 1 pick
Great matchup that was. Kareem still showing kids how it's done, Magic with some sweet dishes and a nice dunk on Ralph. Rockets had the height and athleticism to counter the Lakers' height and athleticism, plus skill as well. That Houston team had lots of potential and were already great, too bad it all fell apart. Hakeem/Sampson was a dangerous C/PF duo on both ends, and they had plenty of good role players.
The 80's were the best Lakers dodgers transformers he man what more can you ask.
Kareem Abdul jabbar was what 38 or 39 and still playing at a high level crazy .
The talent on this court!?!
WoW.
Kareem was amazing this season, especially against the Rockets. This would be the last year the Lakers would focus on Kareem for offense, Riley and him would have a well documented talk about the change. So when you hear people getting on Kareem about his diminishing numbers it’s because he was willing to change his game for the team
Like my boy Tim Duncan. Sacrifice personal numbers and glory for team success.
yeah -- the offense got much to predictable and often forced the post action.
Willing to change?
Kareem couldnt do it anymore as a go to 1st option. He didnt have much choice at this stage of his career. He needed a lot more help on the glass after the Twin Towers ran amok in the playoffs vs LA which is why they grabbed Mychal Thompson
@@FuShengAlex Yeah, after SEVENTEEN YEARS of being the # 1 scoring option on EVERY TEAM he played with. NO ONE has ever dominated for that long. That would include Michael Jordan.
@@JAWrightonline my comment wasn't meant as a slight to Kareem (who I consider the GOAT C). I was just responding to the comment about him willingly stepping aside as a go to option at that age.
He didn't have a choice after the 86 WCF..... he couldn't do it anymore at close to 40 years old.
Im a big Laker fan ,but Hakeem was one of the most skilled centers ive ever seen.
Mannnnnnnnnnn great upload TH-camr!!!! I live in Houston so I can appreciate this!!!!
At this point, Olajuwon was 22 and had picked up a basketball for the first time just 5 years before!
At 6:25....40 year old Kareem facial dunk over Twin Towers Hakeem The Dream and Ralph Sampson, two Hall of Famers in their 20's...WTF?
Jabbar had about 4 inches on Akeem and about 30 lbs on Sampson.
and he was 37 not 40.
He was old....that much is sure....Kareem's skills are seriously underated when you watch the film....I still can't believe The Dream and Ralph Sampson getting schooled by the much older Kareem. Imagine if he was in his physical prime? The time he kicked open Bruce Lee's chest would be about that time
@@ckobo84 He was 38 yrs and 5 months, and had 3 inches on Akeem, and I doubt any (if any) weight he had on Sampson mattered since the style both played and Kareem did not guard Sampson.
Not even the towers could stop Kareem's deadily hook shot!
They dethroned him the very next year....then no one ever stopped Olajuwon.
@@pickzkickzThey didn't stop him though. Kareem had a good series especially for a 40 year old.
When the NBA was awesome!!!
That's the first time I ever saw Olajuwon rejected twice in a row by Rambis. Kurt just knew where to keep his hands hovering above near the rim. Gets em all the time
2nd was a foul....1st one he didn't see him. Not bad for a......lol
Great defensive effort by Rambis. Magic put the facial dunk on Sampson. MVP of the game was clearly Kareem. The Twin Towers were awesome, but the Lakers were running on all cylinders.
I miss those shorts, they were the best ball huggers! Hated when mr one eye came out.
With the loss of MacAdoo, the Lakers were severely lacking in the power forward position for '85-86. Rambis was a workhorse, but undersized and lacked a post-game. Maurice Lucas was toxic to team chemistry, and a bad knee-injury rendered Kupchak ineffective.
Nobody worked harder than Rambis. He may not have been a scorer, but he played defense and rebounded as well as any 6'8 guy in the league
Still had a star at every other position so🧁🧁🤷🏾♂️
@@wanaiobannon9833 Byron Scott wasnt a star. He was pretty good playing next to Magic Johnson. A number of those Rockets guards were better Wiggins, Lloyd, Robert Reid, John Lucas.
Losing McAdoo was the key to the series. Olajawon was guarding Rambis. Which means he could roam the lane and help out on Worthy and Kareem. Lucas wasn't able to keep him honest coming off the bench. 9:31
One thing i took away from this video is that Sampson, Olajuwon
What a beautiful basketball people watched back then !!!todays nba is unbearable
YOU WILL NEVER SEE THE BEST 3 Man talent on the same FLOOR …
Sampson's career was like Yao's. It could've been one of the greatest if not for the injuries.
That Series ending shot by Ralph Sampson was epic in 1986. But then Houston faced the best team of the 1980s in the Boston Celtics. Bird, Parish, McHale, DJ and Walton, a team no one could match
That same year this young Rockets beat the Lakers 4-1 in the playoffs. It was Olajuwon’s second season. If Sampson didn’t get injured the following season, and eventually getting traded, Rockets would’ve been the team of the West.
It’s incredible that Olajuwon is still new to basketball here (5-6 years) so he’s still learning. Yet he’s excellent regardless.
Sampson's injury was a big factor, but you're forgetting the drug suspension to Lucas, Wiggins, and Lloyd at the beginning of the following season that absolutely derailed this team.
@@rocketmank8584 ...Yes I remember those drug suspensions. The Rockets wasted Olajuwon’s great years from mid 80s to very early 90s, by not surrounding him with all-star players. His prime years started in the late 80s but his teams were even weaker than his championship teams. So I blame the Rockets for not making it possible for Olajuwon to win more.
Lakers made it possible for Kareem to win a lot by making a super team so he’s now considered a top tier player. Switch teams (Kareem to Rockets and Olajuwon to Lakers) and guess what, Olajuwon would be considered almost up there with Jordan. Funny how that works. Skills and talent wise Olajuwon would’ve provided much more to that Showtime Lakers. And Kareem, even in his prime, wouldn’t be able to win a championship without an all-star teammate like Olajuwon did.
@@timmyg831 I disagree with that. Kareem got to 2 Conference Finals in 70’ as a rookie without Oscar and 77’ in the 1st Year Post Merger without Magic.
Hakeem’s championship teams were based off of 3PT shooting that created spacing for Hakeem to operate in isolate to play-make or score depending of the given defense during a possession.
Hakeem was never the playmaker Kareem was and that’s evident in their careers if you actually watch and attach the numbers to it.
Kareem would have been even MORE dominant with a 3PT line and there’s evidence of that in the exhibitions they played pre merger.
@@tyjohnson3111 …Oh wow that made me laugh. Kareem never had to be a playmaker cause he had the greatest playmaker in history. And he also had the great O for a while too. Kareem had his sky hook. 🥱 Hakeem had the versatile Dream Shake which has 24+ variations of moves and it’s too quick for Kareem. When you think of Kareem, you don’t think of domination. You think of longevity and accolades.
@@timmyg831
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KAJ 70’: 2nd on MIL in RS AST (337)
3rd on MIL in PS AST (41)
KAJ 71’: 4th on MIL in RS AST (272)
5th on MIL in PS AST (35)
KAJ 72’: 2nd on MIL in RS AST (370)
2nd on MIL in PS AST (56)
KAJ 73’: 3rd on MIL in RS AST (379)
3rd on MIL in PS AST (17)
KAJ 74’: 2nd on MIL in RS AST (386)
2nd on MIL in PS AST (78)
KAJ 75’: 1st on MIL in RS AST (264; 65 GP)
KAJ 76’: 2nd on LAL in RS AST (413)
KAJ 77’: 2nd on LAL in RS AST (319)
2nd on LAL in PS AST (45)
KAJ 78’: 2nd on LAL in RS AST (269)
3rd on LAL in PS AST (11)
KAJ 79’: 2nd on LAL in RS AST (431)
2nd on LAL in PS AST (38)
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KAJ 80’: 3rd on LAL in RS AST (371)
5th on LAL in PS AST (46)
KAJ 81’: 4th on LAL in RS AST (272)
3rd on LAL in PS AST (12)
KAJ 82’: 4th on LAL in RS AST (225)
4th on LAL in PS AST (51)
KAJ 83’: 4th on LAL in RS AST (200)
5th on LAL in PS AST (42)
KAJ 84’: 4th on LAL in RS AST (211)
3rd on LAL in PS AST (79)
KAJ 85’: 3rd on LAL in RS AST (249)
3rd on LAL in PS AST (76)
KAJ 86’: 3rd on LAL in RS AST (280)
3rd on LAL in PS AST (49)
KAJ 87’: 5th on LAL in RS AST (203)
5th on LAL in PS AST (36)
KAJ 88’: 6th on LAL in RS AST (135)
5th on LAL in PS AST (36)
KAJ 89’: 7th on LAL in RS AST (74)
5th on LAL in PS AST (19)
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Hakeem 85’: 8th on HOU in RS AST (111)
6th on HOU in PS AST (7)
Hakeem 86’: 7th on HOU in RS AST (137)
6th on HOU in PS AST (39)
Hakeem 87’: 5th on HOU in RS AST (220)
4th on HOU in PS AST (25)
Hakeem 88’: 4th on HOU in RS AST (163)
5th on HOU in PS AST (7)
Hakeem 89’: 5th on HOU in RS AST (149)
4th on HOU in PS AST (12)
Hakeem 90’: 5th on HOU in RS AST (234)
4th on HOU in PS AST (8)
Hakeem 91’: 6th on HOU in RS AST (131)
6th on HOU in PS AST (6)
Hakeem 92’: 7th on HOU in RS AST (157) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hakeem 93’: 3rd on HOU in RS AST (291)
1st on HOU in PS AST (57)
Hakeem 94’: 3rd on HOU in RS AST (287)
1st on HOU in PS AST (98)
Hakeem 95’: 4th on HOU in RS AST (255)
3rd on HOU in PS AST (98)
Hakeem 96’: 4th on HOU in RS AST (257)
4th on HOU in PS AST (31)
Hakeem 97’: 5th on HOU in RS AST (236)
3rd on HOU in PS AST (54)
Hakeem 98’: 6th on HOU in RS AST (143)
3rd on HOU in PS AST (12)
Hakeem 99’: 6th on HOU in RS AST (88)
8th on HOU in PS AST (2)
Hakeem 00’: 10th on HOU in RS AST (61)
Hakeem 01’: 8th on HOU in RS AST (72)
1st on HOU in PS AST (57)
Hakeem 02’: 8th on TOR in RS AST (66)
8th on TOR in PS AST (2)
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Hakeem in the 70s would have been even a worse playmaker than he already was in the 90s. He’s not on the level of playmaking as Kareem is.
Blame the West Teams in 84’ & 87’ for getting upset 🤣🤣🤣🤣 that’s definitely Kareem’s fault. Maybe the bigs were in the other conference to not see him as many times as they would in conference genius.
Hakeem had Kenny and an offense that was based off of Hakeem’s reads in isolation to self-create or create enough gravity on himself to generate looks for 3s. Kenny was also the primary playmaker for that run they had between 93’-96’. Even in ‘95 Clyde as the newcomer was arguably the better playmaker. Hakeem was always best in a secondary playmaking role behind a lead guard who wasn’t necessarily shot-first. You could even argue for him being more optimal in a tertiary role…
After Sampson finally left broken down in 88’, it took a couple of years for the Rockets offense to change and be at the top of the league in terms of 3PM & 3PA.
Hakeem lost 4 consecutive first rounds from 1988-1991 (missed the playoffs in 1992 by a game) after losing Sampson who would have been their best player had he stayed healthy and led Hakeem mold himself slowly.
He had one great series of 38/17/2/2/3 against the 1988 Mavs on 64% TS; leading his team in FGA.
He also had a terrible series of 19/12/2/3/6 against the 1990 Lakers (1st Year No KAJ) on 48% TS, didn’t even lead his team in FGA, and was 2nd in TOV.
The Rockets from 1991-1999 were always Top 3 in 3PM & 3PA per game.
The average of 3PM/3PA per game ranged from 2-5 3PM/7-13 3PA in those nine seasons.
The Rockets ranged from 4-8 3PM/12-22 3PA per game in those nine seasons.
You switched from Fitch to Chaney to Rudy T as your head coach remember?
Hakeem is not the greatest big man passer. That’s actually asinine to believe. Seriously. The man has NEVER CRACKED 300 AST IN A SEASON. ARE WE JOKING NOW?????
He’s never averaged over 5 APG in a regular season or eclipsed 300 AST.
Hakeem’s Championship teams ranked in the top 10 in AST; having five/six of his teammates in the top 100 in 3PM & 3PA.
In the 80s, Hakeem had some of the leftover core from the Moses era (1977-82’) of the Rockets (Reid, Lucas, Leavell).
Moses leaves for Philly in 1983 and that caused the team to bottom out at 14-68, after 4 consecutive 40+ win seasons (1981 40-42 NBA Finalist).
This leads to Sampson & McCray get drafted in 1984 as well as picking up another piece of the Hakeem 80’s core in Lewis Lloyd.
Hakeem comes in 1985 and the Rockets get upset by Dantley/Eaton’s Jazz in the 1st Round.
In 1986 Kareem has to face his 4th double big pairing of his career in the last stage of his prime and holds his own.
He won MVPs without HOFs and All Stars. Jerry West is not a HOF Coach. And Kareem would have had more space to operate with a 3PT line and more opportunities to kick out to 3PT shooters better than Hakeem could.
Hakeem missed the playoffs in 92’ and barely got in on a tiebreaker in 90’.
You actually haven’t proven anything with the lack of context you have on those seasons. This is light for me.
If you actually watched them both play, you’d never utter that out your mouth. To say Kareem didn’t have the moves Hakeem had is asinine.
Domination isn’t 6 MVPs in 10 seasons? Domination isn’t 17 All-NBA caliber seasons along with 15 Top 5 MVPs finishes?
Domination isn’t going from 29/15/4 on 55% TS to 35/17/4 on 61% TS as a rookie without Oscar?
Domination isn’t going from 25/13/5/1/3 on 60% TS to 31/15/4/1/4 on 63% TS without ANY ALL STAR HELP as a Laker before Magic?
Domination isn’t going from 23/8/3/1/2 on 62% TS to 25/9/4/1/3 on 59% TS while sharing a 1 WIN SHARE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 80’-86’ WITH MAGIC AS THE PRIMARY SCORING OPTION?
When you think of Hakeem, you think of how he missed his golden opportunity with Ralph and in turned suffered 4 1st Round Losses in a row. You think of MJ not being in the league while being the best player in the world.
Geesh Ralph Sampson was very skill had great body control at 7'4
Now tell me how these players are less athletic than today's players?
and yet you hear these 20 year olds saying today's NBA is much better talent and skill-wise. 🤣
Real nice one.
Magic got the best fucking no look pass in NBA history as an "6 9" point guard
Need this game with the Chick Hearn commentary
Is that Rick Berry and Bill Russell talking?
@@sonofrobert Yep.
Wow!!! The Rockets of this era we should of had at least 1 ring in the 80s but just one problem a Bird in Boston that flew really high
What a game this was. And to think of what a team LA had: Jabbar, Johnson, Worthy, Green, Cooper, Scott, Lucas and Kupchak. And Houston still beat them in the playoffs 4-1?
Check out the defense by Kareem at 5:41. Not bad for an old man.
These were good games. I don't care who wins. I like Sampson, Reed,Akeem, Magic, Scott, Jabbar, Coop. It's the competition that's grand. I'm a Celtics fan.
This was at The Forum in Los Angeles not at Houston which would've been The Summit back during this time, good game though.
Ralth samson was crazy fast for 7,4 and they have three 7 plus footers on that court.
Kert Rambis !!! A real warrior
Lots of dunks but no showing up your opponent or whining about fouls.
Biffalo Bull that’s what I don’t like myself.
Who played Center and who played PF for the Rockets?
Fitch wouldn't let Olajawon play center vs Kareem. He was experienced enough to even bother him. Normally Olajawon was the center.
So Kareem is so great he made Akeem Change positions. Must be the GOAT
Good match
Man....Kareem was a beast against 2 tall hungry youngsters looking to take his crown. School was n session 4 those guys. Respect 2 the twin towers...we'll never know what could've been if Sampson could've stayed healthy. But man....them Lakers still kept rollin' despite the fall of the towers.
Check the defense by Kareeem at 5.58 swatting Akeem.
Is that Rick Berry and Bill Russell talking?
Yes
i dont think the game has changed too much, who agrees?
10:11 watch your head Kareem!
That lakers team was loaded....Olajuwon thoe the best center ever
Quien es la otra torre gemela??
I was pulling for The Twin Towers.
1984-86 Hakeem w/Sampson wins 48 then 51 games in regular season, go 3-2 in playoff series, wins Western Conference Championship, loses in 6 games to Bird's Celtics
Jordan wins Rookie of the Year, 2nd in league scoring behind Bernard King in his rookie season, 2nd in Slam Dunk contest to Dominique Wilkins in rookie season. Bulls 🐂 win 38 games lose 44 are the #7 seed vs Milwaukee Bucks and win 1 game lose 3 to lose in first. 86 Jordan plays only 18 games starts only 7 and the Bulls 🐂 are #8 seed vs Bird's Celtics and get swept but Michael Air scores 49 pts in Game 1 and 63 in Game 2. Game 3 Jordan scores 19 @ Home ironically.
1986-88 Hakeem loses in second round in 87 and in 88 loses in first round. Wins 42 and 46 regular season games. He loses Ralph Sampson and the "others" of 86 . They get Sleepy Floyd for Ralph Sampson.
Jordan scores 3,000 points in 86-87, scores 35 ppg in 87-88 and wins DPOY and 1st MVP. Bulls win 40 games in 86-87 and play the 87 Celtics the #1 seed. Celtics sweep 3-0. Bulls win 1st playoff series with Michael Jordan in 1987-88. Michael gains Scottie Pippen and Horace Grant to tutor under Charles Oakley. Bulls win 50 games in 1987-88. #3 seed beats #6 seed Cavs 3-2. Jordan's Bulls and Isiah's Bad Boy Pistons begin their next level rivalry.
Hakeem Olajuwon Playoffs
(84-85 thru 95-96) 41.1 mpg, .530 shooting %, .716 ft %, 3.5 orpg, 8.2 drpg, 11.7 trpg, 1.7 spg, 3.5 bpg, 5.2 defensive stops 🛑 per game with 27.8 ppg
The problem with this Lakers team, once Magic and Kareem came out of the game they were in trouble.
Shows you what PG play and coaching do for a team. Jabbar was 38! The twins combined for 60 points. Should have been an easy win for Houston.
The Lakers had the best center. He was dominant. Jabbar made it look easy. That is why he doesn't get more credit.
Houston took that azz in the series though.
La verdad Sampson adelantado a su tiempo, lastima que ese juego no le veneficiaba mucho pero digamos era un point guard... mm como hoy veremos a Victor Wembayama...
Rambis blocked Olajuwon twice! who woulda thunk?
Rambis got absolutely abused the next year in the playoffs by the towers. The Lakers realized they couldn't match up with the Rockets with Rambis and got rid of him.
@@ckobo84 No Trickle, they didnt get rid of him. He stayed until 1988, then came back again in 93. He was 6'8 and they were 6'11 and 7'4, but he played his heart out against them and everybody else. A true hard worker!!!
this vid was pieced together I noticed micheal cooper earlier had on a nose guard also ac green is shown later in this vid who did not join the lakers until 87. as an avid laker fan these things dont get by me.
A C Green joined the Lakers in 85
and yet you hear these 17 year olds saying today's NBA is much better talent and skill-wise. 🤣
Kareem getting it done one on one. I remember a prime Kobe with shaq and Barkley would say Kobe's not the best one on one player he's the best one on one player that gets to play one on one. When you have a stacked team this is possible. it was just Hakeem and Ralph against a dynasty. Please believe that if Hakeem got to play Kareem one on one at this stage without three or four guys hanging on to him with all the no calls in the games they played. They would have to sit his behind down or he would foul out getting dunked on.
El Tigre Kareem also couldn't lead a team with other all stars to the playoffs, TWICE in the weak 70's! If it wasn't for Magic or Worthy, Kareem would've retired with only 1 ring, and with Karl Malone as the all time leading scorer
Armando De Los Santos you are crazy
@@jonathanhairston5019 yup all he does is spout nonsense w/his Hakeem worship, truly a waste of time trying to talk to him.
@El Tigre wow chill out dude smoke u a little something...but tbe Dream was far superior in every way he was faster a better rebounder a better shot blocker a better defensive player a better offensive player give the man Hakeem some respect fool..is name is Hakeem Olajuwon that is the name his mama give him..lew Alcinder is the name is mama give him not kareem jabber ..Olajuwon is a Nigerian from the motherland the continent of Africa..hes the chosen one hes pure African...kareem i mean Alcinder is a wannabe
@@paulbalderas1476 You're stupid. Do you call Muhammad Ali "Cassius Clay" too, dumbass?
RAMBIS was only 6'8" ! I figured he was 6'10" !
Ralph Sampson was 7'4" but he barely got any lift on his turnaround jumper from the post. This was all right against a Rambis or a Kupchak, but no wonder he was dominated by the Celtics front line in the Finals that year.
1:47 good defending...twice.
Hakeem Olajuwon. Is the Goat of Centers..thoses were the Days.
When Big men Ruled Sampson was awesome when he was Healthy i mean 7ft 4in and he could handle the ball and run tje court like a Gaurd..if it wasn't for injuries Sampson would have been a all time great..and the old master at that point kareem..man centers ruled..kind of miss the extinct center position....bye the way the rockets won the series and played larry bird and the Celtics and loss in the finals..but the rockets were really the only team to stop the lakers from going to the finals every year....
Stop smoking crack
532 massive travel by lew holy shit
310 where u at lew?
430 ervin travelling carrying his ass off
142 no foul lol? 80s baby!! u could play D!
408 sampson stuff lew lol
115 lew travellign his ass off as ususal
401 shoot and 1 lew hacked 2nd time no call wtf lew a proteced player
456 ralf!!!
541 akeem fouled by magic onreachin lol no call
528 ralf fouled a lot and hits anyhwo nonfuckign call lakers jsut not called for fousl damn
58 44 housotn blowing lakers out 612 and some bs calls later lakers win total SCAM
your brain damage is showing.
coach of rockets a tard to let non akeem n ralf shoot so much
155 why let lew go 1 on 1 ? double n let shitty shooter on laker brik it
all title given lew n ervin by refs, same as jordan n diet jordans since.....NBA died 1989 0:10 not goal tending
150 lew fouls shit outa akeem and announcer says loked good secnd time as well LOL fake fuckers