What the HELL is Elcano & Magellan? (An OFFENSIVE Controversy)
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I don't know why they thought this movie was a good idea
You need to talk about Skylanders Academy
They were probably smoking that nut pack saber
Is any movie you review good
Finally, a true Moana rip-off!
They were dumb to do this, it's absolutely horrible
This movie looks like a feature length ad for a mobile game.
Then it's a kicker game and I die.
J Do lmao it does
One of those cursed ads for mobile games
Ammagon Oh, Gee, what innocent civilization will I terrorize today?
oh my God-
This movie is literally a rip-off of Road to Elderado with the plot of Disney's Pocahontas.
💯
@@viscountrainbows6452 this is big brain time.
Those were actual movies. El Dorado is brilliant, only to be criminally underrated. While Pocahontas is inaccurate, that doesn't mean its not a decent love story with some great songs. Films you can actually enjoy even tho Pocahantas isnt all that devoted to the Powhatan culture. Stephen Schwartz is a total genius btw.
@@mrsinister8978 el dorado is amazing
@@DoReMela yes it is.
here's something to understand why we filipinos aren't into this film.
colonizers invaded our country and burned every semblance of our culture and history, made themselves at home, and put us through 500+ years of pain. because of them, we know little of our original language, forcing us to learn the english alphabet and inserting bits and pieces of their own language for us to use. and that's the least most damning thing they did.
now they're trying to glorify those people who started the whole mess, acting as if they're doing us a favor by making this film in the first place.
TLDR, this is pocahontas all over again. if any of you want an actually interesting show that features filipino characters and filipino culture, try Trese. it's an anime, and we filipinos love it a lot, give it a try.
Not only the show, but the original Trese books should also be recommended to anyone interested!
Just wanted to correct you on the 500+ years of oppression. It was only 333 years or so, but your point still stands. Filipinos were put below the Spaniards and eradicated our culture and history.
I like malik the tikbalang
To be fair this is a Spanish film so I’m not sure why you thought Filipinos would like it.
@@reginaldforthright805 Since when does nationality justify the trivialization of genocide and rape of an entire people?
This just reminds me of Pochahontas vs the accurate historical version.
It felt like they made the Pocahontas fall in love with John Smith fall in love so he got redemption when that's not at all how it went down. At all.
They also make the historical figures handsome and charming/goofy as if they don't know they're being racist and horrible-
Wh-
Also, John Smith fantasized about having sex with native girls.
As a Filipino...
I am going to stick with El Dorado.
Lol, at least El Dorado showed the audience that the natives were manipulated.
Same
Even doe I don’t know that
Ye that movie was ak
My mom made me stop watching that movie because they said hell LMAO
Yeah me too for both parts
As a Portuguese I can confirm that we are in fact, green in colour
Interesting...
Does this mean you guys are good at gardening?
@@user-fh5ms4wg3w depends. My mom? Mediocre. Everyone else? I done
Azeitonas da Terrinha
Can you give me a history lesson
The best takeaway I've gotten from this video is that the first person to actually circumnavigate the whole planet turned out to be a slave who, in the end, not only got to witness his slaver get absolutely annihilated by Lapu-Lapu, but also got to go home.
God, I hope Enrique lived a happy life.
as a filipino i have watched many plays that depict this particular part of our history, if i remember correctly. houses before did not have locks because we respected each other's belongings and that woman are treated equally, so when the Spaniards set fire to the houses. if i remember correctly Lapu-lapu said that they were cowards to battle at night when the enemies were sleeping and instead shouldve challenged and fought them at broad day light to show some balls.
@Michelle Yeah, the Aztecs were really big on human rights…
Iirc, I read in another version, he thought to himself that they must be savages from the mountains, (like apes, might I add) doing that in the middle of the night. And then...the rest is history.
As a Filipino, skill issue to Magellan.
Lapu-Lapu, a badass man, defending his land to his last breath, seen as a bad guy, **visual confusion**
honestly, the only good thing about this film is that now I want to research about Lapu-Lapu and everything else much more in detail. I'm Spanish and we were never taught about him (i didn't even know about his existence) or anything more than 'yeah so these boats set sail and a lot of people died and then Magallan died and Elcano was the captain and went back to Spain and there were some colonization attempts and massacres and battles in between"
Miriam MP Funfact:
theres alot of misconceptions about lapu-lapu being the one who killed magellan, it was not him but one of his people. He was just the leader
Yandere
@Dewani90 I guess they were shy to teach because they lost the fight to people that doesnt have armour or guns just swords(Im Filipino so i dont have good english)
Phantochu 345 why did you say what 2 times
Looks like El Dorado, Moana, and pocahontas got a little freaky
This is their love child
In all fairness, Pocahontas didn't age will either 😔
thank god im not the only one who IMMEDIATELY thought this upon seeing the aesthetics
@@LilacZ373 I thought most of Pocahontas's faults were pretty clear from the start.
THIS COMMENT MADE ME SCREAM 🤣💀
im from the philippines and almost all kids have this story memorized in their heads because of filipino schools. and as a filipino,
I declare this movie, OFFENSIVE
As a spanish person I actually feel so ashamed for what happened in the past and how we stand so proud for what we did regardless Im genuenly sorry to Filipino people
It's okay. Let's all just move forward to a better future.
People conquered other people all the time in history. So why should Spaniards be ashamed of these achievements? It's not that the people of the Philippine islands were warless people dancing around fires every day. What you're doing is presentism at its finest.
@@kogoromori30 yes, because pillaging, murder, and enslavement is an "achievement". Never knew that word had a darker side to it.
@@kogoromori30 I hope you go through the same thing and still be able celebrate your colonizer/rapist/slave-master 🥰
@@wanderer4778 I am the colonizer. So there's no need ;)
directors: oh sh*t we offended the Philippines with the poster quick offend the Portuguese
Yeah go offend The portgise if your Satan
@@claireglover1391 portugal doesn't exist!1!1!1!!!!1!1!1!1!1!
@@claireglover1391 did you meant portuguesse
To be fair it's illegal for any western European former colonizer to get offended about anything. They're open targets, like wild pigs in Texas, you can blast any of them you feel like.
@@arthas640
How is it "illegal"? Like, you're gonna get fined or jailed for being offended?
Teenager: I wanna watch "Road to El Dorado"
Mom: No, we have Road to El Dorado at home
Road to El Dorado at home:
El Dorado has just as many terrible inaccuracies but at least it’s a great movie 😂
D Double E Nah bro, el dorado exists!
Parker Green just use Netflix
I Snort Ashes r/whoosh
@@DDoubleEDouble El Dorado is supposed to be a mix between Aztec and Mayan while also being its own culture. So, there's really no inaccuracies.
imagine fighting for your land to have a freedom and got portrait as a 'bad guy' 😐
😐
I'm from Spain and I love animation, and I remember going to the cinema, I was going to watch a different movie, but there weren't empty seats.
At the cinema, with my friends, we look out... Is another movie, at these time, at these place... "Elcano y Magallanes" was there.
We stare at the poster, and we just say "it looks boring" "yes, and I don't think is accurate" "ice-cream?" And we left.
Best decision
came for the controversy, left with a good history lesson
Edit: [insert annoying comment about the likes I got]
Bren Tenkage yes
It's a win-win.
Same lol
I agree.
When a youtuber teaches better than teachers
“Dammit they still can’t get my nose right”
-Flynn rider
Same, everyone can know🤣
*Spittakes in laughter*
?
those are indeed FACTS
@@Spalbeert it’s because the male in the movie looks like Flynn rider
I feel like a better version of this movie would be a Heart of Darkness style of story.
It should have been a cautionary tale, not a fucking kids movie.
Show these Spaniards dying horribly of disease, show them raiding and killing natives, show them being manipulated by one native tribe to try and get rid of Lapu Lapu.
Show the true story, because honestly, it’s an INCREDIBLY interesting story.
It should have been like that miniseries The Terror.
Spanish: wanna know jesus?
Lapu-Lapu: wanna meet jesus?
YES
A Historically Inaccurate Animated film that majorly edits the story for general audiences that isn't made by Disney , now that's a rarity.
*oooooooof*
Shhh don't give Disnazi any ideas.
Sounds like the animated Titanic movie
@@RazorusR3X777 too late, they already made pocahontas
Fruity Cutie we do not speak of that!
As a Filipino
My ancestors did not die for this
DAMN! Fair tho XD as a pinky I as well can reason and respect this WAY too much
We Filipinos deserve better
The audacity of these people
Lmao, imagine what our lives could’ve been if we didn’t revolt against the Spaniards...
@@clippygoat Begone, slave
spain : hey here's jesus
Gigachad Lapu Lapu : no here's a bamboo spear instead
Such a perfect way to describe the badassery of that guy
Lol I saw this comment right at the moment
The spaniards are the true villains .. the natives are living peacefully that time, and they arrive and claimed that the whole archipelago is theirs.
Well by peacefully, there were still a few tribe battles here and there.
@Michelle Still not living peacefully. Believe it or not, native people were capable of violence and warfare.
Belief in the noble savage is pretty cringe.
To think the Animaniacs song is more structured, historically accurate and interesting than this full length movie...
😅😅😅
so,what episode at 0:30?
Because the writers for Animaniacs actually did research for their shows where needed.
@@Nightweaver1
Agreed unlike the director of alpacoloto.
we're not cavemen tho
Natives: I don’t want to be Christian
Europeans: Gun go brrrrrrrrrrr
haha gun goes POW
Lol gun go *BOOM BOOM*
GUN GO BOOM
HA COMMUNISM GO BRRRRRRRRRRR
Europeans: so anyways I started blasting
“Mom, can we have Flynn Rider?”
“We have Flynn Rider at home.”
Flynn Rider at home:
As a filipino, living in the philippines my whole life and having our history taught to us from a very young age(first grade) this movie made me go like "wtf"
Why would you make a child friendly version of this violent story. Its like making a pg version of WW2.
Done and done.
th-cam.com/video/8zjUpjZEqiM/w-d-xo.html
There's probably like a lot of those already.
@@autobotstarscream765 Hetalia isnt 100% pg tho, since its for 15+ aged audiences (the mangas and the anime)
Hitler's wacky hijinx
Or giving US soldiers walkie talkies instead of rifles at Normandy.
Why the hell would they try to advertise this to Filipinos by making them the villains of the movie
That's like introducing Jesus to a satanist
Like introducing hot dogs as a fruit
Like trying to get your mom to understand the difference between playstation and xbox
It’d be nice if a US company released historically accurate movies about Vietnam and Philippine colonization. Make them animated too!
Bruh, I'm a Filipino btw... (I live in Davao)
I know that SaberSpark mainly reviews movies but the way he did that condensed history recap was really entertaining. I would honestly like to hear him narrate more history if he were up to it.
Honestly, some people might say that us Filipinos are being exaggerated to our outrage, but one can't help but be angry when the hero that fought for our country be portrayed this way.
Not saying that Filipinos were the only one colonized, but I'm sure many will sympathise if their own heroes come off as a villain. And as a quote that I remember, in different perspectives of the victim and the attacker, you can either be the villain or the hero.
(Or maybe they're too evil that even their own countrymen doesn't approve)
Is portrayed like what? Like the guy who killed Magallanes? That's the only thing he did regarding what the film is about. This is not a film about the Philippines, but about the first circumnavigation of the world. The Philippines appears like 10 minutes max. You are outraged by actually depicting your nationalist myths about Lapu Lapu killing Magallanes.
@@goodaimshield1115Did you even watch the video? No matter how accurate or inaccurate this movie was, it’s still a blatant misrepresentation of reality sprinkled with racism
Rules of making a brutal history turning it into a kid friendly animated film:
Rule no.1: Don't Do it
Thank you
Disney is laughing at you
This should apply to Pocahontas as well. Sorry if I wrote it wrong. I'm from Latin America.
@@amyd6769 agreed. Unless the plot is interesting and the songs are catchy, it isn’t ideal. I’m with you on that. 👍🏻
actually pocahontas was mostly incorrect as well
Hey Triss! I'll Make You Videos Please!
WHY DOES HE LOOK LIKE TULIO FROM ROAD TO EL DORADO
Omg he does
I was thinking he looked like Flynn Rider from Tangled, personally.
Because... IT'S TOUGH TO BE A GOD!
@A normal Guy h e l l o!
Both is good
I remember as a toddler my babysitter taught me a filipino nursery rhyme about Lapu Lapu and Magellan
Was it:
- One plus one, Magellan, or
-On March 16, Fifteen Hundred 21?
@@KrabbyPatty99Archive it was 15 hundred twenty one
@@darkmatterburger That's not a nursery rhyme, that's a 1972 novelty song by Yoyoy Villame.
Are you talking about this weird thing?
"1+1 Magellan
2+2 Lapulapu
3+3 Christmas tree
4+4 Bagong bapor
5+5 Voltes five"
@@JcDizon nah .
Usually, I don’t like social studies class. However, if it was taught in the way Saber showed this, I would be way more interested. It was so neat hearing the true story about this, I had a lot of fun listening and learning more :D
I feel like the only accurate part is the green vampire 😎 we Portuguese are all green vampires 👌😔
And here i thought you were pale blue.
@@Raximus3000 no, I think those are Romanians.
Lauren Perfetto No, the Russians are actually all electric blue, they just look paler in different lighting
@@asafupps I thought Russians were red.
What is this? 😂
Looks atrocious. The Filipino outfits were not researched at all. I guess they figured one precolonial tribe of brown people looked like like any other. Also just because these were the first Europeans the Filipinos saw it doesn't mean that they were the first foreigners to the archipelago. When the Spanish arrived they noticed that the Filipinos had been trading metals, spices, pottery and other valuables from other sea trading empires like China for decades if not centuries before. And lastly Magellan died because he wanted to show off his bravado to a chief and decided to meddle in Filipino politics. His men left him to die as they watched him get massacred by Lapu Lapu's forces from the boat because by that time most of his crew was fed up with him and just wanted to go home.
true, we Filipinos have a preserved manuscript that shows the ancient dresses. The "Filipino" here looks like damned similar to the Mayans
Damn I didn’t realize they were trading with china
"Fed up with him and just wanted to go home" so even his men hated him? Lmaooooo
@@exudeku There's the Boxer Codex which were filled with illustrations of Filipinos people and other Southeast Asian ad East Asian groups illustrated by Spanish artists. Granted there are some tangents as to how accurate they were, especially their depictions of Chinese clothes, but their artworks of Filipinos definitely shows the movie doesn't resembled them whatsoever.
The fact this men just ditched Magellan during the battle because they were DONE is hilarious
...
In a dark way
fun fact: 4:00 Mummy im a Zombie was on netflix in english back in 2015-2017 i watched it all the time lmao
You know as a Filipino myself, I saw a poster of this film a year ago in a mall theater that wasn't too big. The week after I saw it again, it was shelved behind a dumpster.
As a Filipino myself, Lapu-Lapu is a much loved hero. And yes, there was a lot of buzz about this movie in my country.
mobile legends adds to this
Same, I saw the poster of this in an sm mall, and I just went "Ugh oh no"
@@johnncat2277 wait that was released wtf
PREACH
There’s even a fish named after him
Why did Lapu Lapu look like a fortnite character on the poster
Lapu Lapu skin when?
I prefer Mobile Legends Lapu Lapu
He's gotta get that dub
Damn he should be a Fortnite Character
Jeiku Hosho What about Raid arrow legends Lapu Lapu
This is why the show Roots still holds it's own as an accurate retelling of historical events. They don't try to cover up any of the brutal gruesome stuff for the sake of "family friendly". They don't paint the colonisers as the good guys. They start off the show with Kunta-Kinte in HIS home, because it's HIS story, and HE'S the hero of the story!
Just saw this video, kinda surprised no one knows about Filipino guns and canons :'). They already have those even before Magellan came.
The Virgin: Elcano & Magellan
vs
The Chad: Road to El Dorado
😂
Yes
Yasss
you mean Chel Dorado
The best part about el dorado is that all the white people who watch it with me, the Kiche Mayan, apologize for the colonization of my ancestors. It’s fun to prey on my friends white guilt, only my friends though
Company: oh god we have to fix this poster so it doesn't look offensive *slaps on a dude who looks like an antisemitic political cartoon*
It only gets worse when you discover that one of the insults Spaniards said to the Portuguese during the rule of the Habsburgs was "marrano" (a Jew recently converted to Christianity). I highly doubt the guionists and animators knew this, but still, yikes.
@@MaylocBrittinorum As in pig? Or is it an "original" insult?
I think the fact that you thought of Jewish people when you saw that character probably says more about you than the movie's designers. Lol
@@jeanbethencourt1506 has more to do with how many antisemitic cartoons I've seen on the TH-cam profile pictures of weird edgy teenagers, really
@@jeanbethencourt1506 Nu-uh, stop. Go find some anti-semitic cartoons. Look at the cartoons, look at that guy. Look at some of the language used in the movie, look at that guy. Look at the context of the movie and how they handle different cultures, look at that guy. Look at the fact that Spain has a long history of stampin on religions not buddy-buddy with the crown, look at that guy.
Are you seeing the correlation?
As someone from Portugal: I can confirm that we all look like green malicious goblins
The Madeirana do for sure.
You should do some straight-up history videos, the part where you explained the actual story of Magellan's expedition was really entertaining
As a Filipino, this movie is so historically inaccurate like what the heck?!
as a filipino can confirmed
this level of mockery would be the same as making a movie where hitler is this kind hearted joe who wants nothing more but peace and prosperity in the whole world
@@thatterrariaguidenpc8054 As a german
Please don't make a movie like that
@Frizzurd How funny.
As an Spaniard, im sorry for this shit
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Great, now we have a highly offensive and historically inaccurate rip-off of The Road to El Dorado.
Now with more yikes and less homoerotic subtext and fun.
Sebastian Walker and I’m sure, less memes...
I i :o
0: :O
KougaTintinFan Yeah. At least with Road to El Dorado, we weren’t following the story of historical characters (I mean, Cortés is in the movie, but we don’t really get to see any of his ventures, he’s just a story device for our main characters). Miguel and Tulio are completely made up, and it just so happens that the story takes place in colonial times, that’s it. It’s hard to adapt the lives of these colonizers in a kid’s movie because then you have to sacrifice historical accuracy for the sake of censorship, and nobody wants that.
agreed
I've seen "Mummy I'm a Zombie" one of their other movies by the company, I think it might still be on Amazon
I thought it was alright, kinda a weird story, but my sister enjoyed it. It had some interesting ideas, and animation was okay I thought.
We also watched the sequel, again it was okay.
as a portuguese who has cosplayed shrek 2 times, i can confirm we are all green
All of the characters look like if The Road To El Dorado had toy merchandise that came to life by the souls of the actual characters... /:
Toy Story 5
Except with NO SOULS...
That is an extremely detailed observation that I completely agree with
Jesus christ I low-key thought Tulio was deadass on the poster-
@@shino4242 Toy Story 6
Your pronounciation of "Cebu" was more accurate than the entire movie
true HAHAHAH
True hahaahahaha
@@charlotte7015 true hahahaha chain started
True
lol hahaha true
Ngl when I first saw the character models the first thing that came to mind was Sea of Thieves with the smooth and cartoony textures. Even the boats and the water looked like it came from Sea of Thieves a little bit. (Obviously Sea of Thieves had better water effects and boat models, but you get what I’m saying if you’ve played the game.)
i'm from spain, and the only reason i've ever heard of this movie before is because my little cousin likes it. like, barely anyone in spain knows about this ridiculously historically inaccurate film
Porr little cousin
As a Filipino, This was considered as a stain in our history (in our school) because there's a LOT of things that was misleading and historically incorrect... A LOT of people died that day and it wasn't made clear enough and that outraged a lot
@@Spellbook y’all aren’t even trying anymore huh
@@Spellbook
Bait
@@Spellbook which KKK, there are two of em
@@deo. the good one
During that time before the westerners arrived most probably your islets are uninhabited jungles and when native people decided to live there, they are only living on their tiny bubble. Complex society formed when the Europeans arrived and gave you hispanic surnames (which you used to falsely claim you have european ancestry 🤣 but you are 101% austronesian), religion, tax system, education, alphabets, literature, sense of nationalism so that your divided archipelago and people united under one flag. If not for Spain you are one of the province of indonesia and bends 4 times a day to mecca lol 🇪🇸 🇪🇸 🇪🇸
Funny how a non-Spanish related guy is able to tell a more interesting story than a group of Spanish people...
It's sad that this part of history was taught so poorly to us
Wait until you hear about Americans history 😂
We're not really spanish. We can kinda be considered that but we could also be considered asian or pacific islander.
I see my ourselfs more as asian but it differs from diffrent people.
@@azulizachan7595 Of course it was, much of the European colonizer empires like to whitewash their horrid actions as something that was "good for the natives" and "worked out in the end" and "wasn't so bad" or some other malarky. Hell, as a USA citizen myself, our OWN CIVIL WAR has people trying to whitewash slavery and pretend like the south WASNT a rebellious little wretch trying to maintain the horrid institution of slavery. Neo confederates are like a personal taste of the kind of propaganda that European colony empires spit out, as well as the sympathizers.
@@ramenbomberdeluxe4958 Please don't use "European colonizer empires" to refer to colonial and imperialist aplogists, since the aformentioned quote refers to a government and most modern governments are open with the attrocities commited in their education, aka not whitewashing history, like the "and the natives happily moved away so the peaceful settlers could build a new home" that was(I think it isn't anymore...I hope so) in old Canadian history books.
I am Portuguese and we learn how we started the transatlantic slave trade and how we transported thousands upon thousands of African slaves to our colonies in "Negreiros", ships where slaves were stored like cargo, piled one over the other, in a inhumane way.
I'm quite confident the US also teaches how the CSA rebelled to keep their barbarous slave practices, since...ahem, the USA is the victor of that story and why would they beatify the CSA? Again, the biased apologists being the problem.
13:47 Frick, the "boat" did not even look native. Usually our boats have these extra appendages on each sides to act as balance when sailing out to sea.
I was thinking the same thing
15:02 i wouldn’t mind to have saberspark as my history teacher
This movie looks like a mobile game ad
He said that at 7:57
Christopher Wallace nah he just said the guy looked like a person in a mobile game
It honestly does
The comment above you said almost the exact thing XD popular opinion i guess?
Rareinsults
Imagine making the colonizers as the good guy and wonder why people hate it.
Ikr this would have been beautiful if it took place from the filipino perspective during the invasions
How are the colonizers the bad guys? Fresh land to expand upon that the natives weren't using, fuck yeah they want that shit.
@@BlueOvals24 You actually genuinely think the natives weren't using it? You need a history lesson mate
@@suniidays They weren't gonna industrialize, waste of land just like the native Americans.
@@BlueOvals24 I don't think you can know what they were going to do, and calling a group of people a "waste of space" is pretty bigoted, and technically racist too.
Magellan forced one of the mutineers to execute two of the others, one of whom was his foster-brother, then had their bodies dismembered and nailed to the rigging of his ships and left them there for months. The whole story is so insanely dark it absolutely defies belief that anyone would think it was suitable material for a kid's movie.
ElCano and Magellan has the animation quality of a mobile game ad
Sugarcoating real life brutality to make a children's film? Did they learn nothing from Pocahontas and Anastasia?
Ok, but historical liberties aside, I do still like Anastasia a lot. But I am aware it is definitely not an accurate representation of the actual real life character.
@@manuelalbertoromero9528 but at least for Anastasia, it's not like they were pretending to make it VERY accurate. I mean, you got magic and that talking bat creature. But yes, I do see where you are coming from and I have to agree.
Dude, even the fictional brutality of Hans Christian Andersson, Victor Hugo, Grimm brothers, and Greek mythology studios will gloss over or rewrite entirely for animated children’s programs.
b4byj3susm4n yes but those were stories not real people who were killed raped and stolen from
@@b4byj3susm4n Ngl, I enjoyed Hercules, but it's far from accurate. Hercules wasn't Hera's son. She's actually the one who sent him to earth and tried to kill him, even sided with some king. I don't like how the myth was reduced to a typical fairytale. Still it's interesting how they managed to censor the, uh... Milk thing...
When a movie is about a historic event but has a comically bad villain in it I assume it's propaganda and obviously not historically accurate.
-*flashbacks in Bolívar el héroe and tiránico *-
To be fair there are a lot of comically evil people in history
@@creed8712 yeah like most of the Roman emperors
AkumaDayo I was thinking more Hitler or someone like Rasputin but they work as well
@@creed8712 they aren't necessarily comically evil as they are stereotypically evil, the Roman emperors have done some weirdly messed up stuff just for fun. Like they were the kind of evil where you're like not sure if they're entirely there in the brain. That kind of mad scientist evil, ya know?
As a Spanish person, I want to say that Spain has never had a great history in film making (I think that a Spanish film called "Champions" won some international movie price but don't quote me on that). On another hand, we don't treat Magellan like a great man who did amazing things, most of us are aware of what he did.
I hope this movie doesn't represent us as a country.
4:01 the fact that I loved that movie when I was younger-
Magellan looks like a fanboy and chum chum character
He looks like budget Flynn Rider 😂
@@LacedWithOreos you're thinking of Elcano you idiot
True
Dont diss Fanboy and ChumChum like that
@@MemeProphet very sorry
This is a big oof for Spain
how come?
This is really misleading when infact magellan was a the bad guy her lapu² was just defending it's motherland from its potential danger
Magellan's translator was actually Malaccan slave who was rechristened as Enrique. No local girl stepped up and translated Cebuano to Spanish
Yeah the logic was mind boggling. The tribe never met with Spanish people and suddenly one girl can speak Spanish? Who wrote this movie? Drunk Spaniards?
Needed a cliche romantic interest
@@dakotaadams3418 True, but this is sloppy even with this movie's standards. I had to rewatch that part of the video because I thought I misunderstood something.
They needed to put a love interest somewhere
@@kos2919 you need moana bootleg in your movie bro
Just dropping my thoughts and criticism as a Filipino over here. The girl was a babaylan. So she's not just a girl that comes out of nowhere in the 3rd act of the film. She's an important character in pre-historic Philippines. Babaylans are the "messenger" to the spirits because in prehistoric Philippines, they believe in nature spirits and deities. So a babaylan sailing to Spain because of a man is very disrespectful on their move. Babaylans are very important to a tribe. Please for anyone who will be doing historic films, do proper research. And also regarding Lapu-Lapu looking like a villain is very bad thing on their part. They invaded our homeland and Lapu-Lapu and the tribe was only trying to protect the Philippines. Before these colonizers came we have our own culture and women were not looked down upon. Now look what they did? They destroyed a country's diverse culture, art and history because of gold and spices and more territory to flex to other countries.
Edit: Since this has gone (sort of) got a lot of likes, I hope this can be a conversation starter for people to talk about while being respectful to culture, history, and the communities involved.
FACTS KAIBIGAN KO
Tama Ka naman eh
Dapat Magresearch muna sila Bago gumawa ng History Movie....
Ayyy Naku po
Lmao not to mention a few decades later they basically made us slaves in our own country and called us indios (the n word for filipinos before)
And Magellan wasn't even just invading, he was trying to impress the other tribe which was essentially Lapu-Lapu's enemy and flex on him, Lapu-Lapu had every right to attack back lmfao
Babaylan : **exists**
Talim : _hi?_
FACTS. Salamat po dito
"Mummy, I'm a zombie" has unlocked a memory.
3:52 the movie Papa Soy Una Zombi i remember watching the English version all the time and have been trying to find it for ages
I'm portuguese and I can say we also dont look like green-skin vampires
Speak for yourself, mano!
thats exactly what a green skin vampire would say
The Portuguese might not be green vampires...
Now the french...
Lies.
on tumblr, everybody called him anti-semitic when they were calling out the poster (i know the character is portugese)
this looks like walmart version of Pocahontas
There are “Walmart” level Pocahontas movies- ones that make Disney’s version look like a documentary.
But the main character looks like Eugene from Tangled
Nah it’s the Walmart version of The Road to El Dorado. I mean Saber compares it to it a few times and it genuinely has similar vibes in ways.
More like palengke ver.
It's more of a Walmart version of El Dorado getting beat and slapped by the dollar store Pocahontas
This film is historically accurate, the Portuguese were actually goblins who evolved into humans.
Hello everyone, another Filipino here dropping by since I saw this video in my recommendations, I really like what SaberSpark has done in this video, to the pronounciations of our heroes to telling the history of what happened in 1521, hell we have a different movie showing the Philippine-American War called "General Luna", and it's free to watch here on TH-cam, just search it up, you won't regret it =)
I'm so tired of this Pocahontas/Sacagawea trope in movies where an indigenous/native girl shows up whose only purpose is to guide the colonizers and be a love interest to one of them. Also she always has to leave her home because of course she would leave her home to go off with some random dudes instead of stay with her "savage" family.
@Ophelia Tepes they were raped and killed, stop being so delusional
I mean ya that’s how it goes
I know! How terrible that one of the natives is curious, inquisitive, and wants to explore more of the world that these newcomers have just demonstrated existed! Native people should never want anything more than to live and die in the same village their ancestors did.
I want a story where a dude whose like an impressed sailor or indentured servant (basically kinds of temporary slavery) comes to some new land and just decids fuck it. Boy meets girl, boy realizes he loves girl more than he loves Jesus, boy defects and helps the natives kick out the other Europeans out in return for being able to stay.
It might not be super historically accurate, but it think it'd make for an interesting story. Give us a grungier view of the Europeans before they even interact with the natives. Show that the life of many people in europe sucked. I mean a lot of people came to the new world looking for a better life, free from oppressive European society. And show us more of the natives and their culture. Give us more indigenous food and religion. Have some situation where the defector is being taught how to do stuff by the natives.
I mean there was at least one entire english colony that straight up joined a local tribe. So it's not too far fetched.
@@pureevil6047 I believe that's called _Avatar._
As a filipino, I can confirm that the underwear part wasn't historically accurate.
I think you must have much nicer underwear in PH than standard heart-pattern boxers fresh off the stanky junk of a green man.
Yeah. Lapu Lapu wasn't even a villain at this point. He's just protecting his country since the time Spaniards had been colonized Philippines for 333 years.
@@poweroffriendship2.0 He attacked Magellan because he refused to give tribute. Why would he give tribute to a king he didn't knew? The Philippines as a state and political entity did not exist until the beginning of the Spanish period.
@@mmyr8ado.360 And the reason why Spaniard colonized the Philippines is because they wanted to seek some silver and gold as a treasure. Also, Spain established the country with Evangelism and Christianity. This is where things have changed when the Americans came to educate the Filipinos and civilized them. Americans saw those people as an influence and they're the reason why the Spanish retreated.
As a Mexican, same
2:43 Of course, it could not be different, the castilians representing the villain as portuguese
Spain: hey we have jesus!
lapu lapu: bullshit
is anyone else grossed out about the continual and blatant hypersexualization of native women? Of slave women? Of ethnic women in general in these *european meet foreigner* trope movies?
I think a lot of it comes from Pocahontas, which if you actually know anything about it is a much worse and gross story than disney made it out to be. I dont know if it's one of the bigger problems in these movies given they're oind of inherently problematic unless they're handled really well but it certainly isn't good
It's called "Ms. Fanservice", look it up. I'm mostly concerned with it being done to women in general.
@@theprimestskeletron676 Disney was originally gonna make Pochontas the right age.
@@parker-boy98 romanticizing the rape & sexualization of native & African women is fanservice....gotcha....
@@theprimestskeletron676 a lot of it even before the pocahontas film, comes from the fact that when Europeans landed in native lands (whether that's Africa, LatAm, or the Pacific Islands) saw women who largely wore clothing they considered to be unimaginably revealing (bared breasts were particularly shocking to colonizers) and because of this they assumed it meant that native women were simply morally deficit & extremely promiscuous (instead of using their brains & thinking the climate in these regions is hot and they have no need to cover up) .....this in turn lead to colonizers raping native women en masse and therefore the idea that native women (African, First Nations, LatAm indígnas, and Pacific Islanders) are inherently more sexual has bled into the general narrative. Look at Chel from road to el Dorado.
Spain: hey here's Jesus
Lapu Lapu: no
Lapu Lapu : Here's my spear
For the record, the Jesuit, Franciscan, and Dominican clergy that accompanied the Conquistadors were VERY vocally upset at the subhuman treatment of natives (there are letters of correspondence between them and the Vatican that go in depth about the matter) but since the church began to back out of politics during the renaissance they couldn't do much since the expeditions were commissioned by the crown.
On one hand people could get pissed that the church didn't do more in spite of this, and on the other people would complain about violating the separation of church and state. It's a lose lose situation, but the church saw Evangelism as the more worthwhile pursuit in the long run. They genuinely wanted to spread the faith, not conversion under threat of violence.
As such, unlike the conquistadors, the clergy STAYED in the colonies rather than coming back to Spain once they "got their spoils". In fact, that's not only a major factor that led not only to Catholicism being dominant in Hispanic countries, but also contributed to Spanish becoming the dominant language. After all, you can't teach the faith if they don't know what's being said or written. Likewise, there are a ton of Hispanic, Latino, and Mixed-Race Saints from said nations shortly afterwards who were readily canonized regardless of race or ethnic background.
It's exactly like the time I went with my friend to his sunday school one day when I was 10.
@@warbossgegguz679 in long term it's still doesn't bring good to the Christianity as a whole though. Younger generations saw what colonialists did to their ancestors and shy away from Christianity. That's also contributed to the raise of atheism in current era
Philippines now: JESUS
Im French Canadian and I remember seeing The Mummy I’m a zombie movie ! I was a kid and I kinda liked it ! But it’s true that it’s not a memorable movie like the Disney classics
after i watch the movie El Cano and Magellan, i cried.. they portray Magellan as a hero who sacrifice himself and left behind to save his men while Lapu Lapu cowardly throw a spear at him in the leg and he approach the dying magellan, ganging up on him while he was alone and they cowardly butchered him like a savage animal! in real life, Lapu Lapu protected his people and his families. without Lapu Lapu, many filipinos would not had been born and he did what he had to do so that our generation lives! Lapu Lapu is no coward who throws spear at your back, he was a national hero who protected his descendants, us filipinos!! 😡😡
*_Clash of Clans, Rapunzel, The Lord of the Rings, the Hunchback of Notre Dame, the Road to El Dorado, and Moana; THE CROSSOVER_*
@Nicolas wait till some one gets wooshed
And Pocahantis (I'll find the correct spelling later)
I (Spaniard) convinced my best friend (Filipina) to watch this movie together, we were both outraged but still had a good laugh. If this wreck of a movie didn't destroy our friendship, then nothing will.
Anime was right about friendship or something
good power to you, glad to hear some if not a lot of spanish who are in the filipino side in terms of justice
What an amazing friendship, I hope it lasts long!
In some weird way, maybe some of the animators and directors for this movie intended for some cross dialogue between two separate cultures to come about. It’s just…the way that’s panned out maybe wasn’t exactly how they intended. Oh, there’s gonna be a cross cultural dialogue about this movie alright.
What if one of you sleeps with the others significant other
6:26 I learned that the mutiny’s were because the crew thought Magellan was a little to ubseive
The "Christan" chief (in irl) was probably thinking of how to take care of two birds with one stick... Though he only hit one bird
Mom can we get el dorado
We have el dorado at home
The el dorado at home
Bargain bin of a bargain bin!
El Dorado was one of the things that defined my childhood
I like how most of that eras travel stories are like,
“I was travelling around the world and I thought I was going the right way... but we got lost... I think? There were natives... we didn’t know what to do about it. So we tried to bully them until they realised they had more people than our voyage crew.”
And was like, but I have guns I should win right? Then gets killed by 10 arrows while reloading
Ya pretty much lol
@@Revanbzn And then they did win.
@@damienthonk1506 not all
@@vf85200 Not all of the specific colonialists won, but colonialism itself won and destroyed many native populations.
I remember the Mummy, I’m a Zombie actually being on Netflix for a bit
3:08 it so funny that he apologized for kinda saying lapu-lapu wrong while at the same time saying "Mallelan" through the whole video lol
the entire movie looks like it was either made in Dreams, or is a really long cutscene in a unity game
True .
And even then I’ve seen better Dreams projects than this. I mean, just look at Elca.
This man is a POGCHAMP
Unity games are actually good
I... I now actually really want a dark HBO series on this where the Spanish scenes are directed and cast my a spanish director, and the Filipino scenes are directed an cast by a Filipino director. That would be cool as shit.
Now I really want that too :0
yoo that would be so cool
Make it happen dude 😌
I don't know if that would work, history is blood deep within us and it would be hard to depict history if the history don't match up or there's something the other party wants to hide.
As a Filipino, I would say we would be really spitting the facts and being shady all about the *shit* we’ve experienced for 333 years with all that injustice, abusiveness, slavery, racism we have experience that without a doubt they have sugarcoated.
Off brand Flyn made me think this was gonna be a Tangled clone- but no, it's even worse
While Filipino people have already spoken out about the movie better than I ever could, as a Spaniard I want to also make a quick note that Spanish media has had its fair share of problems dealing with our colonial legacy. A movie about the 1898 war between Spain and the US for control of the Philippines, Puerto Rico and Cuba was released a few years ago and got criticized for apparently portraying our country as weak. A lot of times, criticism of Spanish colonization and the Spanish empire is dismissed as a leyenda negra, AKA a lie that the British spread because they wanted to make us look bad while excusing their own colonization. Both empires were shit, but Spain in general still can’t wrap their head around its past, both concerning colonization and events like the civil war and posterior dictatorship.