What RUINED VeggieTales? - The Tragic Fall of Bob and Larry
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- Whatever happened to VeggieTales? Well some REALLY awful stuff...you're about to hear one of the saddest stories in animation history. Back in the day, VeggieTales was one of the most popular animated franchises in the world but it all came to a sudden end. Why did it fail? What exactly ruined VeggieTales?
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*RULE NUMBER ONE: **_DO NOT, ON ANY OCCASION, PORTRAY JESUS AS A VEGETABLE._*
Hed be a cucumber
@@AngelWingsYT Jesus is definitively a fruit
@@plasticballs GASP! BLASPHEMY!!
Definitely not a fig...
@@beipiaosaurus Oh no, you didn't go there. That's funny, I don't know how sacrilegious it is, but it's funny.
Honestly, if I had to pick a type of produce to portray Jesus as, I'd go with an olive, given how important olives and olive trees are in the New Testament as metaphors for peace and such.
My spirit is a pirate who doesn't do anything.
🎵we are the piraaaates! Who dont do anythiiiiing! We just staaay home! And lie arooound!and if you aaask us, to do anythiiiing! We'll just teeeell you.... we dont do anythiiiing!🎵
Veggietales metal covers when?
I just came to say hi 👋
@@xlawxc You wouldn't happen to have Alestorm's phone number, would you?
@@xlawxc Skillet's Stand cover from Veggie Rocks: "Allow us to introduce ourselves..."
“Remember: God made you special, and He loves you very much!” Those words got me through my religiously traumatic childhood and upbringing and they still comfort me today. I absolutely adore Veggietales and I’m so grateful to Sabrespark for giving it the respect and time it deserves!
Religiously Traumatic? Did you have one of “Those” households?
24:08 AHHHHHHHHHHH 🗿
Except for the fact that it isn't true at all if you observe the basic facts of reality, lmao. All anything can hope for is a swift transfer into the state of permanent entropy, most species have been added to the fossil record and have not been remembered since. Billions of "special" humans, forgotten thousands of years ago, pulverized to dust, their faces never to be reimagined even. And ever still unfathomable eons lay before us in which we will sleep dreamless within.
@@kilderok th-cam.com/video/9ZjLxk0djyE/w-d-xo.html
@@kilderok dude...
I actually met Phil while attending a Christian university in 2016, and he told us the story about the rise and fall of veggie tales and he pretty much blamed himself for the fall of VT because he got selfish and stopped putting God first. He was a pretty cool guy and I even got a selfie with him
"because he got selfish and stopped putting God first." Wait, really? Can you tell me more, please?
He seems nice ,i feel bad for him
DID YOU MEET COLIN SLATER
HES A PRETTY NICE MAN
Dang that's sad 😔
At least he knew what happened
God is really amazing when you want to share his word, he will really help you❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ Hopefully everyone will be reminded about putting God first through Phils story.
Confession: When I was a kid watching this, whenever Larry the Cucumber said "They'd better not laugh" in the opening sequence I would go out of my way to laugh at him.
Glad to know I'm not the only one that did that! ^^
Oof
You monster.
Guilty
You absolute mad lad 😱
Atheists Christians
🤝
Agreeing that removing god from veggietales was a bad idea
Who else remembers the shelves full with vhs tapes of veggietales in church
@@Dude_bruh maybe
I’ve never seen someone recreate a meme in a TH-cam so well
Yes
Nice pfp
I watched Veggie Tales growing up. I'm 34 now and songs like "Barbara Manatee" and "His Cheeseburger" still pop into my head unbidden quite often. Fond memories, man.
I think Saberspark forgot to mention that there was a 2nd movie made in 2008.
Pizza Angel went so hard.
@@jamesa.7549 Do you remember "sport utility vehicle" or the water buffalo song??? All my childhood memories of this series are flooding back!
@chzybean Sport Utility Vehicle was so good. I think there was another one he did about a chocolate that melted while he was on the bus? That was nice, too.
@@jamesa.7549 was it the one about his hat at the bus stop? Something something "Oh golly, Mr. Arpagatti, tell me whaddya think of that?" Or something. That's the only part I can remember. Oh and, "A GREAT BIG SQUASH JUST SAT UPON MY HAT. A GREAT BIG SQUASH JUST SQUISHED MY HAT REAL FLAT."
Not gonna lie, going through this video was very interesting, but I definitely got emotional hearing that Bob the Tomato, in the most recent reboot, took time to apologize to the veggies for letting them down, especially given he’s voiced by Phil. I’m glad he got a chance to return to form after everything he went through.
VEGGIETALES MAY BE DEAD BUT ATLEAST ESO STILL LIVES ON!
VeggieTales felt like the funny and chill friend who just so happened to be Christian
Lol you described me in a nutshell
....I think I know how people see me now
Exactly!
Literally my friend
That's me, my friend can confirm
Im so glad he and his wife had a successful marriage. I was afraid the whole video you were just gunna drop their divorce on us.
His omen left me so afraid the whole video, I was so relived that nothing that bad happened.
Bro me too
Deadass same
I was waiting for it non stop. She's a great woman to stay through that. Most don't in these kind of stories
Oh thank God!!! I’m almost done and I worried a divorce was coming!
With how much of a pioneer Phil was, it shocks me no big animation studio has never hired him to direct for them
PHIL BASICALLY LOST CUZ ESO (Elder Scrolls Online) is a better game and sold tons of copies so yeah he lost boyah we win
@@NigerianCrusaderhow does elder scrolls have anything to don with an animated tv series?
He never got picked up cause of his Christian beliefs, most companies shy away from it cause they see Christianity as bad baggage and bad marketing which isn’t true it’s just stigma created to make Christian’s look bad
@@c0ldyloxproductions324 CUZ ITS A BETTER GAME
@@NigerianCrusaderbut a tv show is not a game, stop losing your time trying to seek attention
Whether you were atheist, agnostic or Christian. VeggieTales was enjoyable for all kids. In a day an age where Christian songs and media bored me to death as a kid. VeggieTales was something I very much enjoyed. I still remember the songs with fondness. Sad to see that they changed so much they fell. Should have stuck with what works.
Not really didnt kniw anyone the like veggie tales
@@wisdomfox857 Well, okay. Everyone has their own tastes.
I still watch VeggieTales sometimes and I'm no longer religious. They were a big part of my upbringing so it was comforting
Or Satanist.
I'm a Satanist, and even I like it! Veggietales was great. Fully agree.
@Jellybeanhater18 i wasn't talking to you
IDC if you don't like us or not, just respect us.
I try to respect catholics, up until they start attempting to convert us and tell us what we can And cannot do.
I like how one of the rules of the show is just GOD IS NOT A VEGETABLE
*attempts to hold back joke*
Im pretty sure they broke that rule down the line, I vividly remember something VeggieTales related showing him as a carrot
@@nocaps Matthew 12:36 (KJV) But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
@@thehighflyer7288 that was a character within the series Playing The Role of jesus
Technically he became one when he was crucified
He predicted that humor will be randomly generated in the future, Larry is a cucumber prophet of God.
Dear God why do I see you EVERYWHERE
Found you again
Hello there
Hola
V e g g i e t a l e s
As of now, Phil is no longer working on the Veggietales show because he and Mike were refused to have more creative control. The show is currently looking to recast the characters. Regardless, I'm glad that veggietales had one more season with the band back together, and it went out on a high note. That's more than can be said for other kids shows like Thomas the tank engine.
The amount of mysterious faceless entities that gave Phil help and little nudges of encouragement when he was starting out really feels like acts of angels.
Fitting thing, considering the subject don’t you think?
Better joke: "in this corner, weighing in at $1.29 per pound, Larry"
Best comment XD
*laughs in british*
Stroke?
Where in the US is tomatoes that expensive?
@@EmpressOfDestruction larry is the cucumber
Veggie Tales : One of the few Christian franchise that had actual effort put into it .
Sadly.
Idk, Adventures in Odyssey had some effort put into it
bro have you even heard about the crusades
@@Hornheart22 Well there is a couple of exceptions anyway.
*ganther’s pond intensifies*
I’m Jewish, but I had a very Christian physical therapist (I’m disabled)
Whenever I went to see her, she put in a VeggieTales tape for me
I loved it so much, and I distinctly remember some Old Testament stuff in there
Yeah they definitely did a lot of Old Testament (probably bc of rule #1💀)
I think the biggest strength about VeggieTales was that it taught morals more so than religion. Sure, the stories were mostly based on or inspired by Bible stories, and they quoted scripture and had their "God made you special" send-off, but the morals were "don't lie," "be kind to everyone," or "material possessions won't make you happy," and I think that's what really made it a show that everyone, even non-Christians, could enjoy.
Everybody's got a water buffalo.
Yours is pink but mine is blue
You were the last person I was expecting Skul
Yours is fast but mine is slow
Where you get them, I don’t know
@@danielevans7439 but everybody's got a water buffalooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Veggietales: the only Christian show where the characters actually had character and didn't just talk about god
Edit: and no I'm going to the shitty "OMg THx FOr THe LIkes GUys"
I wish more Christian media was like this.
@@silverwizardess7921 Have you watched The Prince of Egypt?
Grammar
@@customerservice1565
That’s more so just a retelling of story from Abrahamic mythology rather than just a Christian film
Tad Strange Mythology? I think the correct term is Biblical.
You forgot that Pixar called them and asked how they did the cheek puffing animation.
I'm extremely religious but I know you have a primarily secular audience. I love your critique on Christian media because it can be so poor quality we really need more content like OG Veggietales and The Chosen they are good shows and that's what Christian media should strive to be so good that even secular audiences will enjoy it.
Oh, I don't think I've heard of The Chosen! What's that about?
It’s a show about Jesus and his disciples. Even as an atheist, I liked the few episodes I watched.
" In the future , humor will be randomly generated "
- Larry the Cucumber (2003)
WEED EATER
W E E D E A T E R
Did some one say W E E D E A T E R...
"weed eater"
Phil viscer and hideo kojima were ahead of their time
Other Christian Shows: Atheists bad, Christians Good
Vedggetales: Woah, will don't do that here
Vemgiitail just vibes ngl
Thats why I still enjoy veggietales but slightly ruined by the netflix series
@@callmeanon307 congrats on being the only one here who knows how to spell the name of the show, despite us all being fans lol
@@stevenbrown5246 thanks lol
I watched this as a kid and only remember it being semi Christian, I think that's a big reason why it blew up.
It's really cool to see how many people were fans of Veggie Tales. I'm impressed that there's still a fandom of it. And it's really sweet of Phil to apologize in show. I'm just honestly glad to find a Christian TH-camr that isn't hateful or trying to force religion down others' throats, and also acknowledge that
I have read the book several times. As a devoted Christian who discovered Veggie Tales in her teens, thanks for giving the show the time it deserves as one of the few modern Christian media pieces that has effort in it.
ESO IS A BETTER GAME
I HOPE YOUR KIDS GROW UP WITH ESO THEY WILL GROW UP TO BE TOUGH
I got into "VeggieTales" when my son was little. I still enjoyed it even after he outgrew it.
Phil failed for one main reason: he just wasn't a great businessman. He's a dreamer and an artist. He needed someone savvy to run the business side who believed in him and his vision. Many of his choices were just poorly thought out. That said, he did make something unique and exceptional that touched a lot of people and in the end that's the best an artist can hope for.
Honestly, this. You have to be humble enough to know where you need help
In that sense, he really wasn't a failure.
That's what he said: Beware of your dreams. If you want to make your dreams come true, you should be careful what you wished for. Phil might be the most creative Christian has to offer, but businesses can be rather complicated for him.
How do you know Larry touched me? That was like 4 years ago.
Agreed!
They straight up removed Christianity from veggie tales and that was literally the main reason why it exists
Islamic veggietales wheb
WHAT? That's like...removing Johnny Depp from Edward Scissorhands! Which actually happened in today's Super Bowl commercial. Timothee Chalamet played his son, Edgar Scissorhands. I was very sad when they removed Johnny Depp from this new Scissorhands content. February 7, 2021, 7:24pm
Why can’t it be secular?
@@nettieharris it was based on telling biblical tales I think
Veggie tales was based on bible stories, learning basic memory verses, and moral lessons for children (share, don't lie, be kind-things you get from other children or preschool shows) being secular removes half of the content that made it what it was, but if done right may work. But really, it was what is who are no longer practicing or left the church remember. Many remember it fondly from what i know. And even if we don't believe anymore or have different views from the church we grew up in, remember this show as a joy. Personally, I wouldn't want to take God or christianity out of this show as it always did it fairly well.
Granted, I have not seen it in years, so I may be misremembering it. But I do recall it being a happy part of Sunday school.
My family was actually Christian (if only because of my grandmother) and we really liked veggietales. Glad it gets recognition and I can see it’s history.
This is the literal greatest documentary that I have ever seen on not only Veggie Tales, but Phil himself as well on TH-cam. I grew up with Veggie Tales literally from my earliest days as the youngest child, but I never knew the full story behind it's fall and holy crap is it truly devastating, I nearly got emotional over it all, now knowing everything Phil went through. Every bit of time and effort shows throughout this video and I watched it from start to finish. Also, just subscribed as well, so happy I came across your channel!
It’s amazing when you don’t have to be Christian to enjoy something aimed at Christians. That’s the mark of a good storyteller.
You got that right!
I'm an atheist/anti-theist and yet I regularly listen to Christian metal bands like Becoming the Archetype, With Blood Comes Cleansing, The Devil Wears Prada, Blood of the Martyrs, and I the Breather. Can't deny well-written music even when the lyrics are kinda cringe :)
@@katyungodly sadly a lot of Christian bands that us Christians listen too aren't very good and are usually like "Oh we're christian and we sing about God what do you not like us singing about God?" Whenever there's any criticism. It sucks that there are better ones out there who don't get recognized.
I grew up raised in church and im agnostic and 28 now but I still catch myself looking up "his cheeseburger" at least once a month
you pretty much just summed up christian rock and metal for me lol
My sister wrote a letter to Big Idea when she was like 10 asking if the French peas were inspired by Monty Python and the Holy Grail and they responded and said yes!
I mean....that makes sense. The first time that Jean-Claude and Philippe are seen are on the walls of Jericho, making fun of Joshua Asparagus.
Omg now that makes sense 😂
In Jonah there is an Easter Egg where the French Peas are trying to bootleg the movie. They go full Monty Python when the usher tells them to stop.
@@andrewollmann304 Joshua is played by Larry who is a cucumber NOT an asparagus
There's one in "Where's God When I'm Scared?" as well.
"Look out the window, Junior. What do you see?"
"My curtains!"
I grew up with Veggie Tales and 321 Penguins in the early 2000s and I still hold these shows in high regard because they were quality, had a good message, and were ultimately entertaining to watch. Despite problems with my faith in my mid to late teens, I will never forget the message in Veggie Tales because it reminds me that I am loved. Me and my sisters still quote lines and sing songs from Veggie Tales to this day. Phil's story is very bittersweet, but serves as a good reminder to not be prideful, even if with good intent.
Fun fact: both Larry and Cucumber both aren’t even vegetables.. they’re both fruits 🍅🥒
Fruittales
Too bad fruitytales has a different meaning, lol
vegitable is a culinary term not a biological term, they are both fruits and vegitables
@@agent_star good point, they are vegetables from a culinary sense and fruits from a botanical view
I feel betrayed 😢
You wanna know what ruined them? They got Eyebrows.
It's the fact that they gave them eye colors
They got rid of Mr Nezzer.
It's all three!
the animation is too smooth and they now have no texture, larry does not have any cucumber marks or any others
The show just isn’t the same anymore.
Netflix: removes Religious content from
Veggietales
Literally everyone: *”What you have done has made God very unhappy”*
And the few times they made it religious, it seemed so forced
@@nxbula7540 It felt like they remembered "Oh yeah, veggietales was for christians. uh, we gotta throw something in so they don't click off!" Then pulled up a random bible verse generator and based it on that
GOD IS BIGGER THEN THE BOOGY MAN-
I mean, its a mainstream company.
Hahah 🤣
Veggietales can inspire me as a Christian to really love acting
It really warms my heart seeing that new veggietales show!
The only thing I ever knew about my brother was that he loved the cheeseburger song. He passed away before I was born from cancer. I’m just happy to know that Phil made something that made my brother happy, even if I never knew him.
when you realize both the main characters in veggie tales are fruits
Cucumber? You mad
Eavy Eavy
It has a seed. Anything that has a seed in it is a fruit.
SILENCE HERETIC!!!
ok *Victor Ryan*
I don't think Fruity Tales would have worked for a Christian show.
I respect him. He made what he loved. And he stuck to his principles. Even as a non Christian I wish more people were like him.
I agree, 100%
I agree!!
I agree, not many people are like that.
I'm an hardcore atheist who grew up in a hardcore evangelical church I see religion as a cult but as a kid veggie tales was the only good memory I have of church and I have to completely agree with you.
Oh, don't worry, I'm sure there is a TON of idiots who get lucky with good ideas, rely on handouts to keep barely afloat and then screw everything up for everybody else while somehow keeping the fake persona of 'poor wittle huwt genius uWu'. Quite a lot of them get to milk it for money when people forget they're screw-ups too!
I absolutely *adored* VeggieTales. I grew up with it from as early as I could remember. I would rewatch the three Larry Boy videos I have with my little sister, rewatch Sweetpea Beauty as often as I wanted, and would buy more VeggieTales shorts as soon as my mom found them and that I really wanted to watch. I especially loved the Christmas shorts and would watch them year-round. Sad to see that the show's gone downhill in recent years. I'm proud of Mr. Vischer, though.
I’m not religious anymore, but I grew up in the LDS church and we watched Veggietales all the time. Even though I’m not in the church anymore, I gladly go back and revisit Veggietales for good old nostalgia sake. ❤
Jesus still loves you and wants to be in a relationship with you :D
@@faby_babyCan you do OP and all of us a favour and go away? Leave them alone. It’s their decision if they don’t want to be religious anymore.
Veggie tales appealed to a secular audience because it wasn’t just a show about religion, it was a really good show, that happened to be about religion. Most religious shows put the religion first, and then the show, and just come off feeling like a weird propaganda. Veggie tales takes religion as a part of their show, but not the whole thing. They added a substance to their show that went beyond the religious aspects. Veggie tales wouldn’t be the same show if it wasn’t about religion, but there is so, so much more to it than religion that it can still stand on its own. That is a rare thing in Christian media.
Like the Prince of Egypt? Hell yeah
@@viyaGyudon Prince of Egypt was the shit, it's still amazing till today.
To put it short, the show was about Christianity, but it wasn't ALL about Christianity
Mewtube Riverwood that’s a good way to put it
@@nerobiblios4086 in fairness, Prince of Egypt would appeal to any of the Abrahamic religions, not just Christians. Moses is kind of a big deal in all of it.
Ah yes, the show that always made me laugh whenever Bob got mad, because his face would always squish down like this:
(눈‸눈)
CrimsonRaider XV when bob gets mad it is funny
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
this is the most creative use of korean characters ive seen yet lol
Growing up in a religious household Veggie Tales was the most watched VHS in my home. I'm no longer religious but I still deeply love Veggie Tales and quote it all the time. The humor, kindness, music, and life lessons were just too good. I also had the Veggie Tales computer game and played that all the time. Barbara Manatee forever.
I was one of those college kids who loved Veggie Tales back in the day. back in the 90s (and even today) solid Christian entertainment that was clever, creative, and cared about telling a good story was rare. The fact that there were references to Monty Python and Airplane in the videos was what made me love the series back then. Good times.
Remember that episode that went like:
"Why did the chicken cross the road?"
"I don't know, why?"
" W E E D E A T E R"
In the future entertainment will be randomly generated.
"Whatever happened to 'it's funny because it's true?'"
"2+2=4 is true, but not funny. Guys?"
"What is the solution to the equation 2 plus 2?"
"I dunno. What does 2 plus 2 equal?"
Whir... DING!
"Weedeater."
i love that the episode predicted today's meme culture
It took me way longer to get that joke than I'd care to admit. But it works several ways: 1) random and nonsensical; 2) chicken was literally scared by a weed eater; 3) "we'd eat her."
@@HistoricHeroine OH JAJCJDJX
My mom wouldn't let me watch veggietales when i was younger because she said it was "bad for kids". I asked her why did the church let us watch it and just sent me to my room.
…Wow😯
Loool
@Johnny Steve That's not true
@Johnny Steve every church in existense?
@@isakayyik966 he is joking
25:10 The simplistic-yet-expressive designs for all the characters are so brilliant from both an animation perspective and a marketing perspective. I once saw an interview with the creators of Phineas and Ferb where they said their design philosophy for the characters was to focus on one distinct shape any kid could draw as the baseline, because if a kid can't draw your character they won't feel connected to it and might feel bad about themselves, but making a character that's recognizable even in a three-year-old's crayon adaptation means that kid will draw your character over and over again. I can't even begin to count the number of times between the ages of 2 and 5 where I would draw a red circle and green oval on any sheet of paper, give them some big eyes and a smile, and imagine myself one day making my own VeggieTales show.
Hearing Big Idea losing lots of money over one of my childhood favorite shows really pulls on my soul
Yea
The most popular Christian show predicted the future of comedy
“In the future comedy will be randomly generated”
Think about that
A CHRISTIAN CUCUMBER predicted E
I saw that video too
Weed eater
They predicted shitpostbot 5000.
WEED EATER
“Furry man talks about sentient Christian vegetables for an hour.” Circa 2020 (Colorized)
OwO
UwU
UWO
OWU
ÒwÓ
i'm french so i never watched Veggietales like AT ALL as a child, i even doubt my mother knew about this show anyway lmao, but reading everyone talking abt it and how it helped them with religious trauma or stuff like this makes me very happy, like i'm glad this show existed even though i discovered its existent via internet and never watched a single episode, anyway everyone be blessed, i'm going to actually watch this video and edit it to post my opinion (yes i'm very late but anyway)
Over an hour-long documentary and worth watching to the end. Just encountered your channel when it started showing up in my feed today (technically yesterday), and I'm already a fan and have subscribed.
I’m Christian, and I’m pretty sure watching an episode of Bibleman would land me in hell for blasphemy.
Same. Well, that along with Jesus Christ Vampire Hunter. I don’t even believe in hell, but I’m sure I’d go regardless lmfao
@@carrot7911 with fucking what
@@h0lodm0966 bible man
@@carrot7911 same
?
Veggytails preached love, never hate. That is what made it a ground breaking Christian show because it didn't discriminate it simply told about love.
It’s interesting and a little sad that this show is notable for having those traits. Isn’t that what Christianity is supposed to be all about? Amazing how rare those kind of messages and a general loving message with lack of judgement are in the rest of Christian media.
@@AlbinoAxolotl to me God's words are subjective. God told the people to love everyone. The people who hate are not following God's rules.
@@Rubber_duckie_floating jesus said to love as I have loved you, to his disciples. That kind of love is crazy powerful, he died for people that he created, some that didn't even accept him. But also remember he said there is no other way into heaven but through me, so not only do you have to love people, you also have to let them know how to be saved.
@@Rubber_duckie_floating I wouldn't say his words are subjective, there very objective, just people take it out of context or misinterpreted them. But I do agree that alot of churches want to call people sinners, knowing their righteousness is like filthy rags, and not focus on getting the word of God and all his teachings in them.
@@Spearmint22425 yeah
Literally didn’t even know veggietales was Christian. I just enjoyed it as a kid and it was something my parents didn’t mind. Honestly, veggietales was ahead of its time
I like how veggie tales is supposed to be about talking vegetables yet the two main characters are fruits
"Phil had a policy in mind: to make a christian show that wasn't just good for christians, but for all viewers"
Pure Flix: wait, that's illegal
El Pretender what’s Pure Flix
@@IcyDiamond a all christian netflix
Call me Anon never heard of it lol
@@IcyDiamond it's the studio responsable for the God's not Dead franchise....yes it's a franchise.....
Veggietales also only tells old testament stories, because phil made a promise to his mom to never portray jesus as a vegetable
Man... I’m not even Christian anymore, but VeggieTales still holds up. Mostly because it focused on being a good show before being a Christian show. The show just feels warm and wholesome in the way that Christianity should, without all the “I’m better than you” pretentiousness, fear-mongering, and preaching against certain types of people that really soured me on religion in general. VeggieTales makes me feel nostalgia for a much less cynical time in my life.
Those type of people you describe don’t represent their religion
@@jj2059 I very much agree
@@jj2059 I very much disagree. My whole life I've mostly encountered this exact type of pretentious, "better than you", superior mindset. The exceptions are rare.
Simple Bitch even if most of the people you encountered were like that it doesn’t change my statement. Unfortunately it’s often that these types of people are the most outspoken whereas I would say most normal people belonging to the religion are quiet about their beliefs and faith. There are 2.4 billion Christians in the world. And billions belonging to other religions. Don’t let a couple bad dozen people you see dictate how you view a religion that billions belong to, however I can understand your position
I'm not gonna lie, I'm Catholic (it's basically the same thing as Christianity just with a few changes here and there), and yeah, I really am starting to notice some of the hypocrisies in religion. My parents are really devout Catholic (never going a day without mentioning the big Guy in the sky) and when I was little, I didn't really believe them when they said Catholics are NOT always perfect, and have done really messed up stuff in the past. Again, I was really little at the time.
Obviously nowadays, I've grown up a little and I now understand what they meant. And I gotta say, I have mad respect for the religious people out there who actually try to give the religion a good name. To not think that they own the world or whatever because of their beliefs. They don't abuse the power of religion to do whatever they want. And as a Catholic, I sometimes wonder to myself, isn't the entire point of believing in God loving everyone else, regardless of their background. You can be friends with an atheist, jew, Buddhist, etc. and it would be totally cool. If everyone truly felt the love and compassion Christianity is supposed to exhibit rather than be super toxic about it?
In short, I may not be the biggest fan of my being Catholic, but maybe down the road something will work out in the end. And watching this video kind of gives me some hope that maybe no matter bad things get, you might get something out of it. It may not be bad or even good. It could be terrible. But as long as it leaves an impact on you, and you try to own up to it, all I have to say to that is: God, you sir definitely have a weird but interesting way of making things work.
Sorry for the rambling, but I just wanted to get that off my chest. I really should start re watching Veggietales. Saber wasn't kidding when he said this video would be big. Worth the wait!
As a parent, I loved VeggieTales. A lot of Christian kids' "entertainment" is just ... bad. The people making it may have had good intentions, but the moral is about as subtle as a chainsaw, and it's almost like they regard humor as detracting from the message. VeggieTales, in contrast, wasn't afraid of being funny, so it was genuinely enjoyable for kids and adults both; the moral was still there, but it wasn't sledgehammered into your skull. The beginning of the end, I think, was when they allowed the No Fun Brigade to bully them into changing one of the songs (The Bunny Song) because the NFB thought some of the lyrics were disrespectful (it was sung by the guy playing Nebuchadnezzar, so being disrespectful was kind of the point; he wasn't supposed to be a good guy, he just had a great song).
Video sales going down, the other shows failing, the movie bombing for the company, the lawsuit with HIT Entertainment, all played a part in Big Idea's bankruptcy. Jonah should've saved Big Idea, it was such a good movie.
Fun fact: when I was younger, I went to the live VeggieTales show, and they did a giveaway for a full collection of every episode. On the stage they announced the winner, and it happened to be my mom. I still have the box 👌
Nice for you
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thats cool
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AMAZING!
tropxcana :3 DUDE
Phil's life sounds like an actual Bible story.
It sounds an awful lot like the book of Job now that I think about it...
Yeah god sent him $400
@@nonymouswisp8176 but seriously who sent him the money?
Definitely a bible story
Lukedawoop oppdawoop god
During the video the mention of divorce was something in the show business called “foreshadowing”
Can't believe its been 3 years since this masterpiece was released
So Phil was a good honest Christian doing God's work. Was corrupted by greed and pride. Lost everything. Then after repenting and admitting his sins got a second chance from Trinity Broadcasting Network.
This sounds like a VeggieTales episode on its own.
Little do you know, we're all in a veggie tales episode
@@shoelessbandit1581 I guess Christianity IS the truth
Even if people weren't Christian they could still enjoy veggietales for the siliy songs,side movies or shows & because it was in general good.
Yup
Well even if you take the God/Christian stuff out the morals themselves aren't bad either. "Don't spread rumors," "Be kind to those who are different from you", "Stand up for what right."
@@SoulMetalAlchemist15 those are some good messages for anyone
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I do like the morals it teaches kids, I never actually paid attention to the biblical parts
Thank you for this. We watched these so much with the kids and the Songs are still stuck in our heads!
The intro admittedly brought back so much nostalgia. I miss this show, kinda. I miss watching it at my grandparents house off of vhs and dvds
In one of the Christmas silly songs, Larry slams the door on the IRS.
This made 8 year old me think the IRS was a group of scammers and you should always hang up if they called or slam the door if they came.
_And I've come to tax your-_
Well.. if you are called by the phone by the IRS telling you that you owe them with a strange accent, that's a good idea.
Recipient of a few phone calls from them... their website said (at that time) the first way they contact you is by mail. No email, call or visit should be taken seriously.
This is the IRS! And we've come to tax your-
*DOOR SLAM*
I love that Silly Song With Larry, I’ve memorized a ton of them
The redesign's for the characters aren't bad but there a definite down grade. I don't like how they gave them eyebrows.
Sure they can be more expressive but like with these designs they don't work at all. But still that wont change how I view phill. He is a hardworking man no matter what
When you add detail to something that was basically a stretched circle with eyes and a mouth, it tends to look off-putting
They, look like they're friggin high.
Eyebrows do give more expression, but yeah, it looks off on these guys. XD
The color in their eyes *Shiver*
Uncanny as hell
50:43 A little fun fact I should mention, SaberSpark:
The animators on “Robots” who worked at Big Idea Productions before weren’t the only animators who worked on “Robots”. In fact, there are some animators that worked at DNA Productions (behind the Jimmy Timmy Power Hour) who also joined Blue Sky Studios to work on “Robots”.
18:08 Remember, it's not witchcraft if you can justify it being a miracle.
VEGGIE TALES: The Christian South Park
I can’t. I died at this comment.
Now that you mention it, yeah it kinda is.
I hate that you said that and I hate that I agree.
Tires to find argument but can't
Huh, never expected to see you guys comment here
Saberspark: *Makes a video about Veggietales*
The Religious and Non- Religious kids who watched Veggietales: Allow us to introduce ourselves.
Edit: screw you all this is my final edit if you have a problem with it too bad XD
We're neighbors! We've been living down the street THIS WHOLE TIME!!!
I’m pretty sure that meme even came from Veggie tales, which is pretty sad to me. Cause it’s gone.
"Christian kids and kids"
You know, that that is like saying" I saw red cars and cars."
@@cascas9656 true, but they are still two different things, are they not?
*I burst through the door*
I am here!
31:02 it’s like the original bluey, yes the cartoon with the blue dog and how even adults would watch the show and they don’t have children
Original Bluey?
So much work, effort, and generosity was put into this show from the beginning!
"I only ate meat for 5 months to be safe!" He's confused but has the right spirit
I can sense the scurvy.
thatveganteacher: 👁👄👁
Filthyfrank: *Yes, my child*
what was the joke
"Remember, as long as a vegetable is not talking to you, it's okay to eat it."
Mike Nawrocki, 2004.
I guess Larry didn't like introverts.
Tragic story, but brilliantly researched! You've created a lovely eulogy to the VeggieTales franchise and shared a story with the world that may have never been told...
Thank you for providing closure to a story that I didn't even know needed it.
Roomie vs black gryph0n who will win?
Who knew there was a deeper backstory behind some veggies that use the force as their hands.
@@theholydingo8694 Roomie
Pray to the canis lupus dingo
Hey, it's u!
@5:39 - I love that you found this and included it. Oh my word, what a trip.
Something about a show called “veggietales” having two fruits as the MCs is beautiful
6 year old me: “B-but tomatoes and cucumbers are technically fruits!”
Veggietales: *well yes but actually no*
Yo this comment deserves more hype ❤️
Hear me out.
Larry looks like a pickle in the reboot.
I mean there's also Madame Blueberry
@@boopsdoops he isn’t a pickle in the reboot??
@@real_magixrex1252 larry's normally a cucumber, right?
I always liked veggietales because their lessons for kids weren't "god will make everything okay" they had actual lessons important for kids like treating others the way you want to be treated, and doing what's right even when it's hard. Really incredible
They taught the Bible, in a simple way for kids. I loved the show growing up, I think it really did put the God is always with you in my heart.
WOLF TRACER TEACHES BETTER LEASONS FOR KIDS
@@icemanfreezezing BUT WOLF TRACER IS UNDOUBTEDLY THE BETTER COMPANY HERE DUDE
Ironically, it seems that around the worst times in the company's run, it was Phil telling himself that God would make everything okay.
Tbh I'm not religious nor did I grow up religious but I adored this show when I was little
I really enjoyed that video, thank you for telling the story what happened to VeggieTales. I had always wondered!
I'm new to this channel. I started this vid with the intent of watching it for a bit before bed and saving the rest for later. Instead I ended up watching the whole thing despite having to get up early for work tomorrow. Not only was the story interesting, but your interest in the story along with all the hard work you put into this video, really showed and kept my interest. I'd give multiple likes if I could.
broke: Becoming a Christian because you believe in God and Jesus.
WOKE: Becoming a Christian just because a tomato and cucumber told you to.
You're actually ironically not wrong.
Hey, whatever it takes to get to know Christ. :)
Amen?
Hallelujah
Best Christian cartoon. Hands down. Even if you don’t believe in that stuff its still great, has funny jokes and can hold out on its own. Animation is not bad either. 10/10
Omg Larry’s Silly Songs were GREAT
I wouldn't of minded if they kept the original animation style. The new one gets under my skin.
it's not hands down they never had any hands
I agree. My favorite character was the asparagus with the monocle. I don't care for religion but I found Veggietales enjoyable.
@@GlitchCityMissingNo excuse me what
As someone who watched VeggieTales ever since "A Very Silly Sing-Along" (which was the first VeggieTales tape I ever watched), this was absolutely amazing! So much time and effort put into this documentary! I had all the tapes except for some of the newer stuff from the 2010s, but I still love the show tbh! Never gets old!😁👌
There's a line from Bob the Tomato that fits this story surprisingly well...
"I'm depressed."
Phil Vischer: "I lost because I let my own ambition cloud my mission from God. That was my fault."
Butch Hartman: "It's not my fault, you're all just weak. God loves me, and mental disorders are fake!"
Pop Quiz: who's the REAL Christian here?
Trick answer: Both are.
Just because someone claims to be Christian doesn't mean they can't be an asshole. While I don't agree with some actions both men have made throughout their public careers, it's not my position to judge them based on a decision they made to believe in God.
Some atheists are nice while some religious people can be absolute zealots.
@@ForcedHandleName I notice the biggest "zealots" tend to be the Born-Agains. I don't wanna shit-talk born-again Christians too much because, hey, they found Christ. I'm not gonna be the asshole who takes the wind out of their sails just because they're riding the faith high, but I'm gonna be honest: every born-again I've ever met turned into a massive dick later down the line. My younger brother (a Catholic) helped a friend out of a bad breakup which resulted in said friend finding Christ. We were happy for him at first, but a few days later he starts preaching to my brother about how his beliefs are all false, that he's worshipping a false church, and that he must renounce his faith and turn to "the True Christian church" before he's doomed to burn in hell for eternity. You can't even talk to the guy anymore without first sitting through a rambling lecture about how worshipping Mary and the Saints is idolatry or how the Pope is the Antichrist here to lead the church astray and other weird nonsense the instant there's an idle moment in the conversation.
That said, in Hartman's case, I'm dubious about how "faithful" he is in the first place. Like I get that Christians can be greedy/ignorant too, the Bible itself warns us so, but Hartman comes off more like a pseudo-religious grifter than a obnoxious born-again. No man of the faith charges people money for salvation.
Being Christian means trying not to be an asshole, the ones that can't stop that just take the name.
Phil
@@ForcedHandleName but just cuz someone claims to be a christian doesnt mean they are. Unless you've accepted jesus into your heart, you arent gettin into heaven. There are blood bought ppl that are a-holes, though.
I still sing "god is bigger than the boogey man" when I have panic attacks to calm myself down.
That makes my Christian heart very happy. I believe that's for a reason my friend. He must using that to put on your conciounce. 💖
@@gabetalks9275 Aw, thanks. I think so too.
@@itsthatonechickagaincallth7843 Then repent and come to Him before His return. He died and rose again for you because He loves you more than you could ever imagine. Live forever with Him my friend. 💖
*What Are You Gonna Do*
@Mike - _ - Litoris I thought Hitler did the Holocaust... Maybe I'm reading the history book wrong.
Great job on this vid, you're an excellent journalist!
"What have you done except make my childhood?" Facts 🤣💯
The beginning where you had Bob and Larry's banter before their intro song is so nostalgic, almost like seeing old friends again after a long time.
I'm not even Christian anymore but will always claim Jonah as one of my favorite movies period. "Oh where is my hairbrush" and "Barbara Manatee" are songs I quote regularly. And my gosh, the facial expressions on these veggies will never cease to make me laugh. I'm lucky to have had veggie tales in my childhood because even if it didn't have the fully desired effect, it inspired a lifelong love for animation and taught some damn good lessons that anyone can latch onto for a lifetime. Like love, honesty, friendship and family.
(Also want to add despite my personal secular beliefs, I 100% agree with that comment. VeggieTales became successful in part because of its religious tones. It wouldn't be VeggieTales without those Christian tones. Imo the OG episodes and movie struck just the right balance between Biblical stories and lessons and telling a downright good story that was actually fun for kids and adults. My parents watched it with me as a kid and I'll probably show it to my kids regardless if/when I have any because it's just good.. I feel so terrible for the creator Phil, he really put his heart into his creation and company and had the best of intentions. It's awful it was ripped away from him so cruelly and imo it was disrespectful of the new owners of the IP to take out the religious tones because that was a huge part of what made the show memorable and iconic. Not the only part but, I couldn't imagine the series without iconic scenes like in the Wall of Jericho episode and especially the David and Goliath one when Goliath comes out with the boxing gloves. Like come on.)
You can tell that Phil is an extremely good person, while he may have his flaws, he never did anything that he did in malice, and his whole motivation behind the show was to spread his own Christian beliefs in an incredibly respectful way.
Nice gorrilaz pic
I wholeheartedly agree with that, he had to sell Big Idea Productions, they were out of money from making Jonah, I remember being a member of the Super Fantastic VeggieTales Fan Club back in 2002-2003 maybe 4, they sent letters telling the club members they just didn't have money keep it going, they still honored the memberships and sent goodies including VHS tapes of the series, even though they were running out of tapes they could give away.
*Then it all went to ruin after the dichead nation came*
It’s kind of inspirational to me. I want to be an animator someday and tell stories like Phil wanted to, but I’ve always been doubtful about it. Phil had so much determination and faith that it kind of makes me a little confident too.
“The Veggie Tales Fandom” is such an intimidating sentence
We don't talk about the.... veggie tales fandom
*Hears a tuba in the distance*
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But we're all a part of it
I'm scared to google it, but my morbid curiosity is k i l l i n g me.
Edit:
It's mainly gay Archibald fanart.
The Barney Fandom: Pathetic
Crystal sf Goddammit.
this video was a good in depth look How veggie tales started off as a small project between two friends that Grew into a media giant but then fizzled out like a star, I can tell this meant a lot to you, thank you for Sharing this bit of your childhood with you.