Howard saw the people who ruined his lives being threatened and his first instinct was to deescalate the situation. Howard really was the only person in this show with a moral backbone.
@@davestuddaman8127not self preservation, Vince confirmed that he was gonna say “there’s really no need to hurt them”. He was gonna stand up for them despite everything
Ah yeah, nothing screams moral backbone like a rich owner of a giant law firm ripping off hundreds of elderly folks out of their retirement so he can make a few hundred thousand more. These corporate folks are even worse than cartels.
It was so surreal seeing Howard and Lalo on screen together. It felt like two worlds colliding and it ended in the most brutal way possible, poor Howard.
That’s why Lalo is the perfect character to help the two stories come together. Because even tho I enjoy seeing Mike’s and Jimmy’s journeys into becoming what we see them as in BB. It was kinda boring because we know how their stories end. But that changes when Lalo enters the story.
Lalo’s introduction is straight out of a horror movie. That flickering candle, the music swelling, how he appears out of focus behind Howard. Everyone believed him to be dead, and here he returns like a vengeful spirit come to wreak havoc.
Yeah, I think the best TV villains have that Satanic aura without being actually supernatural. Another good one is the David Thewlis's terrifying character from Fargo.
As tragic as Howard's character is, I'm so glad he was able to convey what kind of terrible people Jimmy and Kim are right into their faces in his final moments.
In some twisted way, Howard did get revenge for Jimmy shattering his reputation. It wasn't the way he envisioned it, but his death did lead to Kim leaving Jimmy, which wound up torturing Jimmy mentally for years and years until he even preferred jail over being a free man.
@@saintroddyand tormented Kim as well leading her to live with her constant guilt eating her alive unable to make decisions on her own. Both of them do deserve it though for what happened to Howard
@@saintroddy I never quite picked up on the double meaning of "I'm gonna dedicate my life to make sure everyone knows the truth" until I read this comment. Chills!
Apart from what the other comments mention, unless I'm not remembering right wasn't Howard essentially keeping the case going on forever and the old people were never gonna get their money? Scummy as it was, Jimmy gets the old people their money, in their lifetime
I started liking Howard when I found out he stood up for Jimmy when he passed the NM BAR. His death was the saddest because he was a genuinely solid dude.
I liked him since day 1. Sure, he seemed like he could be one of those "rich, arrogant bosses", but he quickly proved he is actually a nice guy. Even when he was rejecting Jimmy, he still did it in the most polite way possible.
This was the moment I lost all sympathy and empathy for those two and I turned against them whole heartedly and completely. I love the show but if the intention was to get us to relate to jimmy/saul/kim/whoever it didnt work cause i hated them so much for having this happen to howard. it all went out the window and i said yall mfs can burn in prison or dead 6 ft under for all i care
@@Fredrickthe2nd No, hes not a wild animal. Hes a cold, calculating killer who uses his human intellect to wreak as much havoc and suffering as possible, arguably far worse than an animal
I got spoiled the day the episode aired and sat on that spoiler for three months until I got to that episode. Still, when it happened, it absolutely rocked me and left my heart POUNDING in my chest. and I MEAN it when I say POUNDING...
Lalo and Howard meeting felt like a crossover episode of characters from two different universes, even though they are from the same show! Amazing how the show could carry two very different, highly detailed and intricate storylines in parallel so well for over five seasons, and yet when the two come together it all makes so much sense.
For the record: Howard did NOT deserve this. Howard didn't deserve anything that Jimmy did to him tbh. He was the voice of reason while Chuck was the one who actually hated Jimmy.
@@aidabenrabiaa569 Damn, you know nothing. Did you watch this show and how it progressed. Howard was actually one of the best "people" on the show. His not hiring Jimmy as a lawyer was not Howard's choice, it was Chuck's. Howard took the blame for it to protect the relationship between Chuck and Jimmy. All through the series Howard was proven to be the better person and repeatedly tried to help others. He was made to look like an antagonist early as some silver spoon spoiled brat but we see something very different over time.
@@recht_voor_zijn_raap5506and I mean, they could have just, you know, walked away and carry on with their lives and be rich lawyers. Oh no what a tragedy, this is what happens to mentally broken people
it’s not bad cinematography, but if that is some of the best cinematography you have ever seen then i feel sorry for you, doesn’t seem like you have seen many great movies
This episode literally takes the "Be kind to others because you don't know the battles they're going through" seriously. Howard's life is falling apart but Jimmy and Kim managed to make it even worse, despite everything he still hoped he would be okay. He's a fighter. Definitely the most tragic character in the Gilliverse.
Well so were Jimmy, Kim and Chuck to a degree. These four all could have done different approaches and tried to understand each other. Especially Howard.
I can't over state how awful Jimmy and Kim treated Howard. They ruined his life just because he was Chuck's business partner, and Jimmy had a toxic relationship with Chuck.
It seems like they were trying to gaslight him and make him think he really was an unhinged addict with how they were talking to him. But Howard believed in himself so much and knew how strong he was that he didn’t fall for it for even a second.
@@NukeSonyzhe wouldn't even be in there if it weren't for Jimmy and kim trying to smear his image and ruin his career for no reason he believed if he didn't say anything soon they will actually do it
Howard's voice is so chilling in this scene. The perfect amount of growl to show his pure disdain, but at the same time it has his classic smooth mannerisms that make him who he is. I'd absolutely love to see him do some voice work
I love how Howard summarized Kim & Saul’s relationship to a perfect T. Literally throughout the whole show we see how they kept pushing their limits, Howard was the line.
@ChaosLord5129i dont think its bad writing, she was guilty that it was her idea, which is why she admitted not only that Saul did it to Howard’s wife, but that she was also involved. After Howard died she snapped back and realized what she had done, which is also why she didnt take the Sandpiper money too
What’s even more tragic is that apparently the full line on the script that Howard would’ve said was, "there’s really no need to hurt them." Even after everything, he still stood there and was willing to reason for the sake of Jimmy and Kim’s lives. Easily the most tragic moment of the BB/BCS universe in my opinion. Also thanks for not blatantly titling the episode with the death and risking spoiling new viewers unlike some people.
I just realized Jimmy & Kim aren’t just playing dumb, they’re treating Howard like he actually was an alcoholic/addict on a binge and they’re awkwardly teying to get him home safe. The unbelievable gall of it, all three know exactly what’s going on, but they play along *even now*!
rewatching it on a binge, I noticed that too, although not alcoholic/addict and just the usual shove away with words that Jimmy and Kim always did, what would drive Howard away and alive from the execution? it seems impossible due to the nature of the characters we've seen and shown in the show, if Jimmy admit he did it for fun before Howard saying 'Phony compassion', would Howard just passed Lalo at the door and live? I now felt the awfulness of the scene to be reminded that people can often be Jim and Kim because they felt so natural to shove off any honesty others show or demand, for their own(Jimmy & Kim's) selfishness
Thank you for pointing this out I never realised, makes it EVEN WORSE. I don't think I've ever felt more hatred for any character than I do for Saul and Kim watching this scene. The absolute nerve of them, every word Howard says is right.
You know, for a prequel, a world where future characters are technically immortal and those who don't appear in the future carry a big death flag over their heads I gotta say, Better Call Saul excelled at keeping predictable deaths memorable, tragic, and heartbreaking.
I thought Kim was dead and that Lalo would still be alive. Someone told me once that Lalo fakes his death and hunts down Saul Goodman in the future when he's Gene and I thought that would happen lol
@@M.JWitteveen The Lalo death scene is weird imo. Why did Lalo follow Gus to the hidden basement. Knowing Gus, I would have expected hidden traps. Gus always thinks ahead. Lalo just doesn't seem that stupid to me. And wouldn't it be more Salamanca style to dominate Gus f.e. by beating him up or tieing him up? At the end of the day he betrayed the Salamancas and this is his revenge on the chicken man. It just seems weird to me. Even with plot armour they could have done it better. Lalo's death wasn't as great a Nacho's and Howard's.
@@irvinmorales1409 No, I don't accept that. Saying it was because of his pride or arrogance seems like bad writing. There must be another explanation, because Lalo reacted way smarter on previous encounters and also made some ballsy moves against attackers. Why would he suddenly change his own character? Because of pride? Why not before? He didn't have some unreal feud with Gus like Don Hector. Gus was a traitor and he knows how to deal with traitors.
Howard's death is the most tragic in the entire saga. I love how he's made to be the villain at the start of BCS but you eventually realize that he was the most genuine and selfless character in the whole show. Weak enough to be manipulated by his mentor, Chuck, but strong enough to see the potential in Jimmy and Kim. Paid Chuck out of his own pocket so his employees could be paid. Smart enough to see through Jimmy's entire scheme but always 5 seconds behind foiling it. Even in his last seconds, I feel like he was worried for Kim and Jimmy, didn't expect any harm to come to himself but feared for their safety. Then during his memorial, the scene where Kim gaslights Howard's wife into believing the drug use. That's the most awkward and cold hearted moment out of both shows imo
@@Adriana-eu6ty Yeah, I really felt nothing for her at the end of it. Both her and Jimmy. Couldn’t just put in the bare minimum and leave it alone. She had to really seal the deal on his reputation when there was nothing left to gain. It’s not like Howard’s wife having doubts really endangered them; she’d never find out the truth, there simply was not enough evidence.
I normally don't get shocked when characters die but this one shook me to my core, he was one of those side characters that you thought were impossible to get involved in this business. And yet here we are, the most innocent and honorable man murdered, buried beside his killer and remembered as a drug addict. Probably the most tragic character in TV history.
@@nguyenquockhanh3781 And the worst part is you know he's right but you might dislike the way he's saying those things. But he refused to leave when Lalo came in because he saw Jimmy and Kim were scared, so despite hating them at that moment he still wanted to protect them.
This was one of the most devastating moments in TV show history 😭 From the start, we believe Howard to be this snooty antagonist for Jimmy only to find out he's Chuck's fall guy and we slowly see his true self come out. An honest, sincere and emotionally vulnerable person with flaws for sure, but overall decent. Twas a hell of a roller coaster ride to see all that.
@@Illier1And he always tried to see the best in Jimmy even though Chuck told him that he could never change. Sad thing is he did change in the end, but neither of them were there to see it.
Well said! I didn't much care for Howard as he was presented in the first few seasons, as expected. But slowly we start to see his home life, and how much of his facade is just that; a facade, and we start to feel for the guy. We knew he was far smarter than Kim or Jimmy (even though they would never admit it), so we knew he would figure it out. But the timing...
Up until now the HHM storyline and the cartel storyline were completely separate. Suddenly seeing Howard and Lalo in the same room, interacting (albeit briefly) was a mindfuck
The most poignant part to me will always be him saying “what’s this about” after Lalo told him to take his time. Despite how much he hated them, and what they did to ruin his life he was still genuinely concerned for their safety. He was probably the most morally upright character of the entire series
yeah feeling guilty doesn't excuse anything. Jesse was a living, breathing, walking liability through and through and if he died earlier, everything would've moved swifter @@romanpattysstuff
I felt like it was the lawyer and criminal sides of the show clashing together after 5 seasons. The reason why it feels like a crossover is those two aspects of the show were mainly separated from each other before the last season. Brilliant storytelling
I think the realisation that Howard actually didn't have the perfect life after all made the scheming of Jimmy and Kim all the more cruel and sickening. He went to work each day and displayed a perfect Hollywood smile, dressed to the nines, etc, yet went home to a wife that didn't love him and was sleeping in the guest room, then repeated it day after day.
And if they had bothered to actually act maturely and talk to Howard instead of conspiring against him and justifying their illogical hatred of him to keep their relationship going, they'd have known it a long time ago. The look they give each other, and Howard's "oh" like he's just realizing that they didn't even bother to find out and he's completely unfazed by it like, "yeah that tracks"... Really says it all.
They hit a rough patch but probably would have worked it out, and Howard and Jimmy could have probably been pretty good friends if Jimmy actually dealt with his problems and grew as a person instead of turning into saul
4:37 I like how Lalo looks slightly panicked when Jimmy and Kim start shrieking in distress like any normal person would, as if they are just being stupid and naive by risking alerting the neighbors. The guy doesn't even acknowledge the fact he just murdered an innocent person. Goes to show what a soulless psychopath he is.
It's so sad that after all, nobody knows about what really happened to Howard and where his body is. This is something Jimmy and Kim would never forget.
@@cristobalsapiain2709Nah, I think he still blamed himself for a lot deep-down, it seemed like an intrinsic flaw of his. But he was definitely building better, the opposite of breaking bad.
To me, Better Call Saul was like two shows in one, the cartel and the lawyers were like two different worlds with occasional small crossovers in-between, but nothing too farfetched. And seeing such a "Cartel death" in the lawyer world literally felt unreal. It's no exaggerations when I say that I was never so shocked, scared, and wordless when this scene hit. I ended the episode with my mouth open, I literally did not expect it at all
You took the words right out of my mouth.. during the earlier seasons I never expected Kim or Howard (who are in the “lawyer world”) to come across the cartel world.
This is one of the few times I was literally frozen. My mouth was wide open and I didn't blink as the ending credits rolled by. It was such a powerful scene that really sold me on this being one of the best shows of all time. Never had I expected for Howard to die, and especially in those circumstances.
4:06 - ‘What’s this about?’ He sensed something was wrong, After all that showed affection towards both of them. Such a traumatic scene, literally the saddest one in the Breaking Bad universe.
4:16 the tone shift FINALLY reaches Howard's face. Everyone, including the audience, knows how dangerous it is that he is standing there and he is the very last one to know.
It's incredible how dispicable, how revolting both Jimmy and Kim are here. When she does this little affected grunt picking up the glasses, it just makes my skin crawl.
I like Jimmy and Kim, and don't think theyre revolting at all. They are no worse humans than your average folks, they just get put in a position of power as lawyers which always tends to corrupt. If I was a lawyer I probably would be similar to those two
@@-andreiDNA If average people were like them the world would be destroyed...Jimmy became a monster after this and caused who knows how much suffering and death. At least Kim regretted it all but this doesn't change the fact that they destroyed a person's life just for fun.
3:26 “Believe it, can’t hide who you really are forever…” These words came right before Jimmy’s hidden secret life masquerade as Saul Goodman clashed with his persona of Jimmy McGill. Lalo, and Howard, two characters who were never supposed to meet, because Jimmy knew one, and Saul knew the other, finally share the screen in a scene that still to this day feels weird to see. Worlds clashing, should have never happened. And exemplifies the cataclysmic destruction of multiple lives being led by one person, crumbling when they all converge. Shockingly gut dropping, and a warning from the show runners to the audience, no matter how smart you think you are, how good a liar/manipulator/criminal lawyer, you can’t hide who you really are forever….
The most shocking part of it all is when you go back and watch Breaking Bad, knowing that Howard and Lalo are BOTH buried next to each-other under the lab.
Lalo does not deserve to be buried next to Howard. A monster next to a man that did his best to right his wrongs. As Nacho described him, Lalo really was a soulless pig.
lol that's so sick and twisted, they're two MASSIVELY different characters, one an evil psychopath druglord and the other a suave lawyer whose a good person, both placed under gus' operations in a brutal fashion. So dark to be reminded of that. Especially since Howard didn't deserve ANY of this.
@@iNoodl3santagonist is not the same that villain, antagonists can be good guys too like Hank, Hank in certain moment in bb is the antagonist number 1 of Walter
4:29 Right after Howard said “I think I’m in the middle of something,” Lalo who playfully was preparing for his gun, slightly raised his left eyebrow. It suggested that Lalo was pleased that Howard realizing that something is going on, and he can’t wait to see what Jimmy and Kim’s reactions would be. That was a good detail to further reveal that he treated everything like a game. Even if that involved murdering someone like a psychopath.
@@wdaniel891I get that, I can't stand people like Howard, whose success and mediocrity are interchangeable. But he's the only decent human being in the room. Hank, Mike, Andrea, Howard...game was rigged from the start.
People in 10 years are never gonna understand how shocking this was. This single scene makes you rethink 7 years of a characters journey, knowing it all ends here. I was in shock for like a minute after this episode.
@@rr2637He means that, for the future generations, the impact of the scene would be less because they can watch the next episode right away but for us, who watched the episodes weekly, the impact and the emptyness were bigger because we have to wait a month to watch the next, leaving us in a extreme cliffhanger
@@hannercardonapena7408 That doesn't change the impact of it imo. The scene is still just as shocking if you don't spoil it for yourself even now. Same with the second half of Breaking Bad's final season, the wait isn't necessary for the gravity to hit you
I kinda feel Howard think Lalo is a disgruntled client/ another victim of Jimmy and Kim Edit: well... Lalo kinda is, but Howard misjudge Lalo's real intention
On rewatch, the nail in the coffin for Howard was him saying he’s going to dedicate his life to finding out that everybody knows the truth, and Lalo only heard that part. There might’ve been a SLIGHT chance he could’ve walked away. Not high but still there.
Nah, Lalo would kill any random guy who might be telling anyone what he's doing and what he looks like as if he's Anton Chigurh. Didn't have to kill the clerk at all to get what he wanted but he did.
That’s a very good point. I also think Lalo was going to kill him no matter what just because of the way the last meeting in their apartment went. When Kim stood up to him and didn’t back down and this time Lalo was making the point that it wasn’t going to go down that way again. He was in charge.
@@thepaintingbanjo8894 you might be right but I can't help think that if Howard hadn't spent so much time in there, he could have walked away sooner and been spared. It's tragic because it was Howard's only indulgent tirade- where he had every right to be angry and cut loose- and he ends up dead for it.
Considering Lalo likely knew Howard had some kind of connection to the law and that the Jorge de Guzman identity was cracked, there was absolutely no way Howard was walking away alive.
As much as Howard despised Saul and Kim, apparently his last line was going to be that there was no need to hurt -them-. Only way Howard could have survived would have been if Saul and Kim played off Lalo walking in without showing they were obviously terrified. Once Howard realized something worse was going on than a client visiting, he wasn't going to leave them to whatever came next. At that point, he was dead. But, he probably would have been killed either way. At this point, Lalo had been betrayed by one of the only people he came to trust, lost the people he considered family, had to kill people he had known for years to cover his tracks, and he knows this was somehow related to Saul keeping secrets. Anyone in that room that he didn't need alive would serve to show just how serious of a situation they were in.
Howard’s character arc is one of the most superb in the breaking bad universe. From being demonised in the early seasons (mainly due to Chuck’s influence over him) to suffering one of, if not the most tragic deaths in the series.
“In their last moments, people show you who they really are.” In Howard’s last moments, he was trying to say “There’s really no need to hurt them”. He was concerned about the safety of the people who had spent months ruining his life. He was dealt a dirty hand.
I love the little detail that there's a shift in the air current in the room caused by Lalo walking in, and that Jimmy notices the air making the candle flicker just before realizing Lalo himself is there. For just a moment, that shot of the candle looks like something out of a ghost movie, and then in walks Lalo, moving silently, and back from the "dead"
Kim noticed the candle flicker when Howard walked in too, which is why she instantly feels like something is off when it flickers again. A non-moment used to foreshadow a defining moment. Unbelievable stuff
Fun fact: Howard was meant to say "you really don't need to.... hurt them", showing how despite all the crap Jimmy and Kim put him through, he is still a compassionate being towards them.
It's not about the pain he feels it's the pain we viewers get after watching this Howard is one of the most good guy in the entire bb saga and now he'll be remembered as someone who was a drug addict and engaging with street prostitutes. And noone's there to change that image of Howard
When you actually realize it, Howard and Lalo were pretty similar with regards to their situations. They both wanted to expose their enemies and they both died trying to do that.
The death of Howard Hamlin has affected me like no other character's death has before. Even after all this time I still think about him, his amazing character arc, what kind of person he was and how he always tried his best to better himself and right his wrongs with others. The Breaking Bad series has been an amazing ride and character's like Howard and Nacho will forever change the way we see the events that happen. RIP 🙏🏽👔 Namast3 Almost a whole year later and it's still so uncomfortable to wacth Howard's death scene. Really makes you think how impactful and how real Better Call Saul felt when you watched it on those Sunday nights. RIP Howard Hamlin🙏🏽
This. Even today, Plan and Execution is still really uncomfortable and painful to watch, at least for me. Howard's death is the most tragic and undeserved.
I just finished the show for the first time yesterday. Watched this episode and needed a considerable amount of time afterward. Everything was perfectly executed, loved every second of this and the reveal of Lalo with Jimmy and Kim reacting alongside the audience is something that will continue to give me chills every watch. Truly astounding work.
Howard shared the same type of tragedy as Hank. From finding out that someone close to you was your worst enemy all along, then they end up getting killed in the event where they confront and reveal them for the atrocious human-beings they turn out to be. Both of them were heroes in a world of anti-heroes and villains that devoured them in the end.
@@darksideofevil13 Not in the slightest. That was the resolution. The entire sixth season was basically a play in 5 acts à la Lessing, with Howards execution and the fight against him serving as climax, Jimmy in hideout as the retarding moment, and Jimmy in court as resolution.
Even though the ending was phenomenal for Saul’s character and I loved that he did the right thing, Howard didn’t deserve any of the crap Saul put him through. He was just in the wrong place at the wrong time
I would hate to be Patrick Fabian's family watching this. That was one of the most brutally realistic death scenes I've ever seen. Amazing acting and directing
Yeah, I always wonder how actors smooth over scenes like this with their families.. imagine Krysten Ritter's or Michael Mando's mother watching Jane or Nacho die. Most likely, they simply warn their families before watching the episode in question.
Lalo really felt like a slasher villian in this scene, with the candle flickering and him slowly coming into frame while still being blurred out. Giving him a sorta disfigured look momentarily. But even after that you can feel the danger his presence has. Just being there was scary.
Yes, Lalo is evil, in the background of darkness, hiding, part of the criminal underworld. Howard is honest and forefront, forward, standing in the light. Honest with Lalo even, "Find better lawyers", confronting. Nice spot. Love this kind of stuff. Even at the end he was trying to negotiate with Lalo but didnt think he'd get shot like that. Lalo on the other hand.. Evil, simple, but evil. It's ironic but expected he died later on. You reap what you sow, Lalo, lol. Howard was going to go the long road, Lalo took the cheap and fast road and it got him killed still.
I've never felt so shocked, watching a character die. It was so sudden and fast, I felt like a real person died This showed me even more how great this series is and how convincing these characters are
Howard wasn't a bad person. He seemed to always try to do the right thing. The shame is he cared enough about Kim and Jimmy to confront them like it would resolve anything and then thinking it would even really matter. RIP to one of the real ones.
@@burgerkingmyers9391 Yeah, Tuco has the unpredictability factor about him. Really, *all* the Salamancas are scary in their own ways except Hecter after he became paralyzed. Todd I'd say is more "unsettling" than scary because there's something so off about him mentally. Gus is intimidating, but he's at least reasonable to a certain point.
What I can respect with how much Howard endured unlike Jimmy and Kim he handles it healthfully while planning to keep moving forward. He and Jesse are the most resilient in the shows.
This might be the most powerful death in TV. Because Howard was without a doubt one of the few characters in Better Call Saul who was genuinely a good dude. He didn’t deserve this fate.
It worked so well because we went on the entire journey of hating the guy to liking him for all the flaws he had, and realising that he was really the good guy in the series. If he was portrayed as good from the very start the death wouldn't have been as effective. It's why his death was a lot more of a shock than Hank's
Lalo and Howard met on the same day for the first time, stood side by side, died the same day, and were buried side by side in the shape of a heart, Man the direction is just beyond words!!!!
The worst part is that this is what it took for Jimmy and Kim to feel bad about what they'd done. Howard explaining how his life was in bits didn't mean a thing to them. Only when he was dead on the floor did they care.
It's amazing how both plotlines of Jimmy and Kim terrorising Howard and Lalo's return to Albuquerque crossover. Howard is an extremely important character in the show. Jimmy and Kim have known him for years, but to Lalo he's just another random guy to kill. There's zero emotion from him, but it's absolutely devastating for everyone else, the audience included.
I legitimately thought after chuck's death that Howard would sort of fade into obscurity and maybe make an occasional return every now and then (kinda like badger and skinny pete as bb progressed). He didn't seem to have much of an obvious purpose in the show anymore. Wow was I wrong
Plan and Execution was seriously insane, I haven't been on the edge of my seat like that since Game of Thrones. Such rare moments that the viewer has to earn! Brilliant.
I think they knew he'd show up looking for a fight, so they just let him rant and get it out of his system, and were waiting patiently for him to gas himself out and leave. They never intended on defending or justifying themselves, their plan was to remain silent the whole time.
@@murphsmurf87 that makes me hate them even more. It sucks that Howard had to die like that but at least his death ruined their relationship and put a burden of intense guilt on them for the rest of their lives. It would have been incredibly unsatisfying to see them get away with it. They're just awful.
I especially hated Kim here because she look incredibly smug. Like how did they think they were in the right for half this season. I hated watching their side of the show because of them trying to ruin Howard’s life.
@@coolguy_42 nah y’all so naive lol just because howard looks so vulnerable last season he’s such a good guy lol also let’s not act like his kim and saul planned his death also howard kinda deserve the scamming by jimmy like jimmy said howard could’ve got back to his feet just fine it’s just things got out of hand because of lalo
Notice how Howard when he falls hits his head on the edge of the table, it’s reminiscent of how Chuck hit his head in a previous episode. This was a nice touch demonstrating how Jimmy’s actions lead to people dying even when he didn’t plan on it.
The candle, the eeriness, Jimmy & Kim being straight up terrified & Lalo entering with almost no sound in stealthy Batman fashion, makes this like a horror show & Lalo being the demon
From all the media I've consumed, other shows, movies, games, anime, there hasn't been something in MANY years that has turned my stomach as much as Howard's execution, it legitimately had me shook for a few hours or days afterwards. Even Nacho, one of my favorite characters in the series, didn't leave me as distraught as this, and you arguably weren't supposed to like Howard for more than half of the series, it's absolutely insane. And all for one simple reason: he wasn't in the game and he didn't deserve it. I bet most of us can relate to Mike's disgust to not only Jimmy and Kim's actions leading to this (albeit perhaps a bit hypocritically), but all the prior deaths that he helped cause to people who weren't involved. Brilliant writing and acting all around, still miss this show and universe. also sidenote that completely breaks the mood: Lalo's "me? nobody" reminds me of that Beetlejuice meme that's been going around recently and it was very distracting, was fully expecting him to say "just hangin' around"
Unfortunately it was spoiled for me by a TH-cam reaction video title "Howard's death scene". Doh. Don't go on the internet AT ALL if you want to avoid spoilers for something current/popular, they will find you even if you try to avoid them.
@@BrianDemong it sucks, but its something always good to learn. When youre watching a show you really like, you'll search for interviews, commentaries, music trailers, anything. You train the search engine algorithm to tell it you are VERY interested in that show, and the internet will only know to feed you any spoilers immediately. There is no fighting against it either. The only thing you can do is completely disconnect yourself from the internet until you watch the show.
In those last seconds Howard had, from the look on his face, turning to Kim and Saul and saying "there's really no need to" I think he really did feel they were both capable at this point of anything, including murdering him and felt Lalo was in on it with Kim and Saul. His expression showed these people are monsters and he just needed to get out fearing for his life rather than further antagonising anyone. Makes the whole thing much more tragic and sad. Still best moment in the whole series, possibly including BB too
Howard saw the people who ruined his lives being threatened and his first instinct was to deescalate the situation. Howard really was the only person in this show with a moral backbone.
Nah Nacho's dad easily
Bullsht. Complete self preservation
@@davestuddaman8127not self preservation, Vince confirmed that he was gonna say “there’s really no need to hurt them”. He was gonna stand up for them despite everything
Ah yeah, nothing screams moral backbone like a rich owner of a giant law firm ripping off hundreds of elderly folks out of their retirement so he can make a few hundred thousand more. These corporate folks are even worse than cartels.
Howard always acted in the interest of the firm. He always tried to preserve his father’s legacy.
It was so surreal seeing Howard and Lalo on screen together. It felt like two worlds colliding and it ended in the most brutal way possible, poor Howard.
Your use of the word surreal ,as if these characters weren’t literally fake, testifies to how real they were made to appear. Ironic.
That’s why Lalo is the perfect character to help the two stories come together. Because even tho I enjoy seeing Mike’s and Jimmy’s journeys into becoming what we see them as in BB. It was kinda boring because we know how their stories end. But that changes when Lalo enters the story.
I find Lalo the most frightening villain in the series; worse, even, than Tuco or Hector.
@@ighdesigns your understanding of the word surreal is not right
Yes, I need to be more precise. @@vixenofthedead
Even after being humiliated and having his reputation ruined Howard still handled it like a gentleman.
Very true, most people would lash out in anger, not that I would blame anyone for it. Howard was truly decent and good 😢
Even in his final moment the professional side came out as he felt the gravity of the situation
I hated him, but gained a lot of respect for him. Terrible that he had to go down like that.
@@drakZes Why'd you hate him? Howard was probably the closest thing to altruistic good in the show.
@@mee091000 Because in the beginning it potraid Howard as a d*ck and made it look like he hated Jimmy.
Lalo’s introduction is straight out of a horror movie. That flickering candle, the music swelling, how he appears out of focus behind Howard. Everyone believed him to be dead, and here he returns like a vengeful spirit come to wreak havoc.
Better than what you see in horror movies these days
Yeah, I think the best TV villains have that Satanic aura without being actually supernatural. Another good one is the David Thewlis's terrifying character from Fargo.
exactly this - it was beautiful
Not to mention Jimmy and Kim's faces look genuinely hoorifeid
Why we thought he was dead?
Howard: “you guys ruined my life”
Lalo outside the front door: “man they are gonna LOVE this”
I read it with lalo's voice XD
What do you mean?
Lalo literally sent Howard on a trip to Belize. He made Howard’s life better.
@@nont18411I mean, Lalo ruined Jimmy and Kim's life as well.
Same tone as when he said to Nacho "You are going to LOVE this" talking about his taco
Howard: "You guys ruined my carreer!"
Lalo: 'I'm about to END this man's whole carreer!"
As tragic as Howard's character is, I'm so glad he was able to convey what kind of terrible people Jimmy and Kim are right into their faces in his final moments.
In some twisted way, Howard did get revenge for Jimmy shattering his reputation. It wasn't the way he envisioned it, but his death did lead to Kim leaving Jimmy, which wound up torturing Jimmy mentally for years and years until he even preferred jail over being a free man.
@@saintroddyand tormented Kim as well leading her to live with her constant guilt eating her alive unable to make decisions on her own. Both of them do deserve it though for what happened to Howard
@@saintroddy I never quite picked up on the double meaning of "I'm gonna dedicate my life to make sure everyone knows the truth" until I read this comment. Chills!
@@saintroddyaa. Aaq
Apart from what the other comments mention, unless I'm not remembering right wasn't Howard essentially keeping the case going on forever and the old people were never gonna get their money? Scummy as it was, Jimmy gets the old people their money, in their lifetime
I started liking Howard when I found out he stood up for Jimmy when he passed the NM BAR. His death was the saddest because he was a genuinely solid dude.
Totally agree.
I liked him since day 1. Sure, he seemed like he could be one of those "rich, arrogant bosses", but he quickly proved he is actually a nice guy. Even when he was rejecting Jimmy, he still did it in the most polite way possible.
Not only he died, but never to be found for proper burial and his legacy tainted forever. For some fun 🙄
Also he put good word about Jimmy at Davis and Main and got him hired there.
he was the only character that was completely innocent and was killed by someone else
The most curious part about this scene is I don't even feel angry at Lalo, just at Jimmy and Kim.
He just does what he does, I don't think anyone would expect anything different from him. Kim and JIMMY are the reason that he's here
@@SorchaSublimeI would expect different he's not a wild animal he's a man who does horrible things
This was the moment I lost all sympathy and empathy for those two and I turned against them whole heartedly and completely. I love the show but if the intention was to get us to relate to jimmy/saul/kim/whoever it didnt work cause i hated them so much for having this happen to howard. it all went out the window and i said yall mfs can burn in prison or dead 6 ft under for all i care
@@Fredrickthe2nd No, hes not a wild animal. Hes a cold, calculating killer who uses his human intellect to wreak as much havoc and suffering as possible, arguably far worse than an animal
@@krypticunlimited6925 that's what I'm saying
Even being spoiled that Howard dies in this episode, it was still the most shocking death in the series, and probably hit the hardest
Same, knew he was gonna get shot but had no idea how it would happen so this still genuinely shocked me
@@tuscan4174do you have a link to it?
I got spoiled the day the episode aired and sat on that spoiler for three months until I got to that episode. Still, when it happened, it absolutely rocked me and left my heart POUNDING in my chest.
and I MEAN it when I say POUNDING...
The way i got spoiled: i was shocked after Nacho died, looked his death up on youtube, the video right below it was howards death
Exactly cuz they did him dirty and he didn’t deserve it
"I seem to be in the middle of something..."
The moment Howard realised he was a character in the Breaking Bad universe.
The sad part is that his actually line was "There is no need to hurt anybody" when Lalo shot him.
The exact moment when Howard became a Breaking Bad character
@@spbspb2413 or, or, or.... the exact moment he realized he was not in Breaking Bad.
@@spbspb2413 If Howard was a Breaking Bad character he'd be Ted Beneke. Probably better off dead tbh.
@@marcarvalho86 or or or yes this is the breaking bad universe which might be connected to the Office and malcolm in the middle universe possibly....
Lalo and Howard meeting felt like a crossover episode of characters from two different universes, even though they are from the same show! Amazing how the show could carry two very different, highly detailed and intricate storylines in parallel so well for over five seasons, and yet when the two come together it all makes so much sense.
Same as the GTA IV story
I could’ve sworn I saw this comment in another video with this scene and someone typing that comment word for word a couple of months ago.
Or Phineas and Ferb
@@themastersmadface8241 bruh 💀
And they got burried together, messed up
Howard: "You guys ruined my life"
Lalo: "Allow me to introduce myself"
He unruined Howard’s life.
Howard : "You guys ruined my life"
Lalo: "Let me help you with that"
To be fair, Lalo ended Howard's life. Some would call it merciful in comparison to other deaths. Most, however, call it a dick move
@@imhungryletseat2303 i agree with both, there´s a little bit of truth in each one of them.
In other words, it´s a merciful dick move.
Considering Howards Marriage, Lalo did him a huge favour.
For the record:
Howard did NOT deserve this.
Howard didn't deserve anything that Jimmy did to him tbh.
He was the voice of reason while Chuck was the one who actually hated Jimmy.
Yes even us Walt supporters agree. Howard was like Piggy from Lord of the Flies
Yes i hate saul and wexler for that !
@@aidabenrabiaa569Have you not watched pass season 1 lmao?
@@aidabenrabiaa569 Damn, you know nothing. Did you watch this show and how it progressed. Howard was actually one of the best "people" on the show. His not hiring Jimmy as a lawyer was not Howard's choice, it was Chuck's. Howard took the blame for it to protect the relationship between Chuck and Jimmy. All through the series Howard was proven to be the better person and repeatedly tried to help others. He was made to look like an antagonist early as some silver spoon spoiled brat but we see something very different over time.
@@recht_voor_zijn_raap5506and I mean, they could have just, you know, walked away and carry on with their lives and be rich lawyers.
Oh no what a tragedy, this is what happens to mentally broken people
“But you one of the smartest and most promising human beings I’ve ever known and this is the life you choose” Is such a heartbreaking line
This reminds of Hank's line to Walt before he gets killed.
@@felipwild You're the smartest man I've ever met. And you're too stupid to see he made up his mind 10 minutes ago.
A very polite way of calling Kim a waste of talent which tbf, she is.
@@madgavin7568someday a woman may love you, keep your head up 😊
@@EnjoySackLunch I cant tell if your actually giving him advice or roasting him lamo
The thumbnail makes it look like Lalo is patiently waiting for Howard to finish his speech like a gentleman
fr😭😭
"Lalo, loyal henchman of the crime lord Howard"
Lmfaoo facts.
He's right behind me isn't he
@@zenleek2129 Just like how Walt was the unwilling cook for the drug kingpin Hank Schrader
The candle flicker to Lalo's entrance has to be some of the best cinematography I've ever seen.
Like he was soo evil, his very presence disrupted the natural order 🕯️ 💨
it’s not bad cinematography, but if that is some of the best cinematography you have ever seen then i feel sorry for you, doesn’t seem like you have seen many great movies
@@ripomarlittleitsallinthega3143 lol yeah
@@ripomarlittleitsallinthega3143 what a sick joke
A little exaggerated but yes, once again, the writers attention to details is truly impeccable.
This episode literally takes the "Be kind to others because you don't know the battles they're going through" seriously. Howard's life is falling apart but Jimmy and Kim managed to make it even worse, despite everything he still hoped he would be okay. He's a fighter. Definitely the most tragic character in the Gilliverse.
Gillanman across the gillanverse when
The what verse
Well so were Jimmy, Kim and Chuck to a degree. These four all could have done different approaches and tried to understand each other. Especially Howard.
@@4SyorhaExactly
Goat comment
I can't over state how awful Jimmy and Kim treated Howard.
They ruined his life just because he was Chuck's business partner, and Jimmy had a toxic relationship with Chuck.
Jimmy infact didn't hate Howard Kim did she pushed him
@@vincentmugendi9803tell that to those bowling balls
I never understood the vendetta against Howard. He was a nice guy, unlike Charles mcgill. He's even into New age namaste stuff
Howard's only mistake was he got too involved with three McGill.
didnt kim actually love howard?
Bro Howard didn't deserve that. He was one of the best character imo. I never expected this crossover between him and Lalo.
If you want to know more about Chaos, try No country for Old men.
Hate Howard and Chuck.
@@benfrank9622 boring movie
@@Phriffo Why?
@@facundogoiriz7323 Wdym, it's a masterpiece?
It seems like they were trying to gaslight him and make him think he really was an unhinged addict with how they were talking to him. But Howard believed in himself so much and knew how strong he was that he didn’t fall for it for even a second.
He still walked into a room and was shot when he should've been home.
@@NukeSonyzShould've been? You're not putting any blame on Kim and Jimmy?
@@NukeSonyzhe wouldn't even be in there if it weren't for Jimmy and kim trying to smear his image and ruin his career for no reason he believed if he didn't say anything soon they will actually do it
Howard's voice is so chilling in this scene. The perfect amount of growl to show his pure disdain, but at the same time it has his classic smooth mannerisms that make him who he is.
I'd absolutely love to see him do some voice work
Yeah he has a great voice, he’d really excel at voice acting!
I thought he voiced Unalock in LoK
@@cooliostarstache5474He also voiced Hank Henshaw in Death of Superman and Rise of the Supermen!
He's literally a clone of Matthew McConaughey and I'm here for all of it🎉
Me too
I love how Howard summarized Kim & Saul’s relationship to a perfect T. Literally throughout the whole show we see how they kept pushing their limits, Howard was the line.
For Saul the line was much farther
@ChaosLord5129i dont think its bad writing, she was guilty that it was her idea, which is why she admitted not only that Saul did it to Howard’s wife, but that she was also involved. After Howard died she snapped back and realized what she had done, which is also why she didnt take the Sandpiper money too
What’s even more tragic is that apparently the full line on the script that Howard would’ve said was, "there’s really no need to hurt them." Even after everything, he still stood there and was willing to reason for the sake of Jimmy and Kim’s lives. Easily the most tragic moment of the BB/BCS universe in my opinion. Also thanks for not blatantly titling the episode with the death and risking spoiling new viewers unlike some people.
Damn, that's brutal. Thanks for bringing that up. I wonder why they didn't include it. That would have made it even more impactful.
Is there proof of this? Poor Howard...
They should have had him say that line and then immediately be executed
@@SamArChir probably because it would of been more realistic to cut him off
The title is "Howard's Last Speech - Plan and Execution", how is that not a major spoiler for his death?
I just realized Jimmy & Kim aren’t just playing dumb, they’re treating Howard like he actually was an alcoholic/addict on a binge and they’re awkwardly teying to get him home safe.
The unbelievable gall of it, all three know exactly what’s going on, but they play along *even now*!
rewatching it on a binge, I noticed that too, although not alcoholic/addict and just the usual shove away with words that Jimmy and Kim always did, what would drive Howard away and alive from the execution? it seems impossible due to the nature of the characters we've seen and shown in the show, if Jimmy admit he did it for fun before Howard saying 'Phony compassion', would Howard just passed Lalo at the door and live?
I now felt the awfulness of the scene to be reminded that people can often be Jim and Kim because they felt so natural to shove off any honesty others show or demand, for their own(Jimmy & Kim's) selfishness
I think they figured howard might have had a recording device or something and didn't want to incriminate themselves
Thank you for pointing this out I never realised, makes it EVEN WORSE. I don't think I've ever felt more hatred for any character than I do for Saul and Kim watching this scene. The absolute nerve of them, every word Howard says is right.
@@monan8038 They must've learned from Chuck
sure that could be part of it, but i believe Howard is drunk during this scene. Jimmy offering a cab isn't entirely an act here
Howard giving unbilled legal advice to the man that killed him, what a swell guy.
You know, for a prequel, a world where future characters are technically immortal and those who don't appear in the future carry a big death flag over their heads I gotta say, Better Call Saul excelled at keeping predictable deaths memorable, tragic, and heartbreaking.
I was sure Kim was going to die in the last episode
I thought Kim was dead and that Lalo would still be alive. Someone told me once that Lalo fakes his death and hunts down Saul Goodman in the future when he's Gene and I thought that would happen lol
@@M.JWitteveen The Lalo death scene is weird imo.
Why did Lalo follow Gus to the hidden basement. Knowing Gus, I would have expected hidden traps. Gus always thinks ahead.
Lalo just doesn't seem that stupid to me.
And wouldn't it be more Salamanca style to dominate Gus f.e. by beating him up or tieing him up?
At the end of the day he betrayed the Salamancas and this is his revenge on the chicken man.
It just seems weird to me. Even with plot armour they could have done it better. Lalo's death wasn't as great a Nacho's and Howard's.
@@wombatZ
Much like every main character in the show, Lalo's main flaw is his pride and arrogance.
@@irvinmorales1409 No, I don't accept that. Saying it was because of his pride or arrogance seems like bad writing. There must be another explanation, because Lalo reacted way smarter on previous encounters and also made some ballsy moves against attackers.
Why would he suddenly change his own character? Because of pride? Why not before?
He didn't have some unreal feud with Gus like Don Hector. Gus was a traitor and he knows how to deal with traitors.
Howard's death is the most tragic in the entire saga. I love how he's made to be the villain at the start of BCS but you eventually realize that he was the most genuine and selfless character in the whole show. Weak enough to be manipulated by his mentor, Chuck, but strong enough to see the potential in Jimmy and Kim. Paid Chuck out of his own pocket so his employees could be paid. Smart enough to see through Jimmy's entire scheme but always 5 seconds behind foiling it. Even in his last seconds, I feel like he was worried for Kim and Jimmy, didn't expect any harm to come to himself but feared for their safety.
Then during his memorial, the scene where Kim gaslights Howard's wife into believing the drug use. That's the most awkward and cold hearted moment out of both shows imo
Kim is a disgusting person. It is interesting how little hate (so to speak) her character got in comparison to skyler.
@@Adriana-eu6tywdym it's obvious why
Skyler simply refused to show her feet in a dedicated sene
@@Adriana-eu6ty Yeah, I really felt nothing for her at the end of it. Both her and Jimmy. Couldn’t just put in the bare minimum and leave it alone. She had to really seal the deal on his reputation when there was nothing left to gain. It’s not like Howard’s wife having doubts really endangered them; she’d never find out the truth, there simply was not enough evidence.
@@jacqirius what refused to show her feet?
@@bigbluebuttonman1137tbh they were way wayy too deep in it they just had to fully commit by that point or else they could get caught
The real reason Lalo killed him was because he couldn't stand Howard insulting the two best lawyers west of the Mississippi.
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I had an extra 7 million,but I decided to spend it on the two best lawyers west of the Mississippi
He was listening to Howard brag about landing on his feet. Lalo tested that theory.
@@howdareyou41 Bro, you have a grim sense of humour 😂
i think it’s west of the rockies
I normally don't get shocked when characters die but this one shook me to my core, he was one of those side characters that you thought were impossible to get involved in this business. And yet here we are, the most innocent and honorable man murdered, buried beside his killer and remembered as a drug addict. Probably the most tragic character in TV history.
Totally agree. This is the exact moment when we stop rooting for the main character, just like we did with Walt after the horrible things he did.
@@nguyenquockhanh3781 And the worst part is you know he's right but you might dislike the way he's saying those things. But he refused to leave when Lalo came in because he saw Jimmy and Kim were scared, so despite hating them at that moment he still wanted to protect them.
Goes to show how much people judge drug addiction.. maybe don’t judge as much?
well said
@@pabloc8808he was dead anyway. Lalo wasn't let him go.
This was one of the most devastating moments in TV show history 😭 From the start, we believe Howard to be this snooty antagonist for Jimmy only to find out he's Chuck's fall guy and we slowly see his true self come out. An honest, sincere and emotionally vulnerable person with flaws for sure, but overall decent. Twas a hell of a roller coaster ride to see all that.
yee both Jimmy and Howard are Chuck victims
Howard did his best to shield Jimmy from Chuck's worst impulses and Jimmy repaid him by ruining his life.
@@Illier1And he always tried to see the best in Jimmy even though Chuck told him that he could never change. Sad thing is he did change in the end, but neither of them were there to see it.
Well said! I didn't much care for Howard as he was presented in the first few seasons, as expected. But slowly we start to see his home life, and how much of his facade is just that; a facade, and we start to feel for the guy. We knew he was far smarter than Kim or Jimmy (even though they would never admit it), so we knew he would figure it out. But the timing...
Most devastating moment, followed up by a cheerful "Lets talk!"
Up until now the HHM storyline and the cartel storyline were completely separate. Suddenly seeing Howard and Lalo in the same room, interacting (albeit briefly) was a mindfuck
Then seeing them buried together. Both halves of the show united in death.....for Walter to step all over.
@@cartywilliams2198it's tragic but also beautiful honestly
@@cartywilliams2198who the hell is Walter?? I see his name in almost every comment section
@@zxrytags9344 buahhhahah u must be joking
You're goddamn right
When you realize Howard spend his last breath trying to save the two people who ruined his life 😢
yeah :(
okay but "want some advice? find better lawyers" was SO FUNNY
I love how he was still putting them down even after Lalo came in. 😂
@@shadowwyldeWell, he did say he was far from done.
"want forgiveness? Get religion"
I half expected him to pull out a business card lol
Lalo actually took this advice to the grave though
The way Lalo smiles at the end as if he hadn't killed someone in cold blood a mere seconds ago is just peak acting...
I was thinking the same. Not everyone can pull it off
this is the moment Lalo Salamanca became Lalo Smiles
Well the actor didn't actually kill anybody lol, its not that he is Lalo, the character. But regardless, Tony Dalton is a hell of an actor.
@@rakusko33 yes I imagine it was easy to act like he didn't just kill someone when irl he didn't just kill someone 😂
@@justice_1337exactly my first thought when i read the comment lol
The most poignant part to me will always be him saying “what’s this about” after Lalo told him to take his time. Despite how much he hated them, and what they did to ruin his life he was still genuinely concerned for their safety. He was probably the most morally upright character of the entire series
probably the most moral in the whole breaking bad universe, aside from jesse of course
@@zachgossett8790the guy who tried to sell men in a rehabilitation center lol
@@zachgossett8790ik he is a smaller character but Nachos dad.
@@kinghades3356he felt guilty about it later in the series
yeah feeling guilty doesn't excuse anything. Jesse was a living, breathing, walking liability through and through and if he died earlier, everything would've moved swifter @@romanpattysstuff
"you two are soulless" four words that cut deep because they're true
Howard and Lalo's meet literally feels like a crossover of two different tv shows
You're right. It did.
I felt like it was the lawyer and criminal sides of the show clashing together after 5 seasons. The reason why it feels like a crossover is those two aspects of the show were mainly separated from each other before the last season. Brilliant storytelling
It was set up perfectly. It’s like the two separate sides of jimmy’s life crossing over just as Howard says “you can’t hide who you are forever.”
I think the realisation that Howard actually didn't have the perfect life after all made the scheming of Jimmy and Kim all the more cruel and sickening. He went to work each day and displayed a perfect Hollywood smile, dressed to the nines, etc, yet went home to a wife that didn't love him and was sleeping in the guest room, then repeated it day after day.
And if they had bothered to actually act maturely and talk to Howard instead of conspiring against him and justifying their illogical hatred of him to keep their relationship going, they'd have known it a long time ago. The look they give each other, and Howard's "oh" like he's just realizing that they didn't even bother to find out and he's completely unfazed by it like, "yeah that tracks"... Really says it all.
I think Cherryl loved him, she just didn't try to make the marriage work again
They hit a rough patch but probably would have worked it out, and Howard and Jimmy could have probably been pretty good friends if Jimmy actually dealt with his problems and grew as a person instead of turning into saul
4:37 I like how Lalo looks slightly panicked when Jimmy and Kim start shrieking in distress like any normal person would, as if they are just being stupid and naive by risking alerting the neighbors. The guy doesn't even acknowledge the fact he just murdered an innocent person. Goes to show what a soulless psychopath he is.
Small details like that shows how well crafted this show was
Correct.
@@LutherusPXCsAlso correct.
sociopath
And somehow he’s less hateful than Todd
It's so sad that after all, nobody knows about what really happened to Howard and where his body is. This is something Jimmy and Kim would never forget.
And the ones who do know are all dead by that point.
Lalo's so kind, after hearing that Howard was going to ruin Jimmy and Kim's lives, he killed Howard to get it off their chests. So heartwarming
Jesus H Christ, you think that might have been his actual motivation for doing that?
@@MichaelTheRead yeah of course lalos such a kind soul
@@MichaelTheRead Scarcasim dude lemaw
@@MichaelTheReadyeah man Lalo is such a kind soul who genuinely cares about his family and friends a pure angel
Howard wasn’t threatening to do anything malicious to Saul, he was above such nonsense. He only meant that he would clear his reputation.
Howard's 'namaste' on his car wasn't for show. His heart was pure.
Yes
And he died with a clean conscience, unlike other characters in BB/BCS universe
@@cristobalsapiain2709Nah, I think he still blamed himself for a lot deep-down, it seemed like an intrinsic flaw of his. But he was definitely building better, the opposite of breaking bad.
To me, Better Call Saul was like two shows in one, the cartel and the lawyers were like two different worlds with occasional small crossovers in-between, but nothing too farfetched. And seeing such a "Cartel death" in the lawyer world literally felt unreal. It's no exaggerations when I say that I was never so shocked, scared, and wordless when this scene hit. I ended the episode with my mouth open, I literally did not expect it at all
You took the words right out of my mouth.. during the earlier seasons I never expected Kim or Howard (who are in the “lawyer world”) to come across the cartel world.
Yeah, and i was also baited by a fake spoiler that "kim dies" so it struck me like a truck when Lalo killed Howard.
Yup. This is like Oberyn's death in GoT. Unexpected, undesired, unfair and absolutely horrifying.
@@rayres1074
Game of Thrones doesn't even deserve a comparison to this masterpiece of a series.
This is one of the few times I was literally frozen. My mouth was wide open and I didn't blink as the ending credits rolled by. It was such a powerful scene that really sold me on this being one of the best shows of all time. Never had I expected for Howard to die, and especially in those circumstances.
4:06 - ‘What’s this about?’ He sensed something was wrong, After all that showed affection towards both of them. Such a traumatic scene, literally the saddest one in the Breaking Bad universe.
4:16 the tone shift FINALLY reaches Howard's face. Everyone, including the audience, knows how dangerous it is that he is standing there and he is the very last one to know.
It's incredible how dispicable, how revolting both Jimmy and Kim are here. When she does this little affected grunt picking up the glasses, it just makes my skin crawl.
Nah, Jimmy, Kim and Howard are all sympathetic characters, tbh
y?😭
I like Jimmy and Kim, and don't think theyre revolting at all. They are no worse humans than your average folks, they just get put in a position of power as lawyers which always tends to corrupt. If I was a lawyer I probably would be similar to those two
@@-andreiDNA If average people were like them the world would be destroyed...Jimmy became a monster after this and caused who knows how much suffering and death. At least Kim regretted it all but this doesn't change the fact that they destroyed a person's life just for fun.
@@jocatorejenerico They get off on it
3:26 “Believe it, can’t hide who you really are forever…” These words came right before Jimmy’s hidden secret life masquerade as Saul Goodman clashed with his persona of Jimmy McGill. Lalo, and Howard, two characters who were never supposed to meet, because Jimmy knew one, and Saul knew the other, finally share the screen in a scene that still to this day feels weird to see. Worlds clashing, should have never happened. And exemplifies the cataclysmic destruction of multiple lives being led by one person, crumbling when they all converge. Shockingly gut dropping, and a warning from the show runners to the audience, no matter how smart you think you are, how good a liar/manipulator/criminal lawyer, you can’t hide who you really are forever….
WORLD ARE COLLIDING... GEORGE IS GETTIN UPSET
Beautifully put.
"It's just a prank bro"
The prank:
BRO💀
Do you just cut/paste this same comment on every video from this series?
@@RamblinManMoto maybe, it's accurate tho
@@gourry47 I have no idea what it means and find it an odd comment.
@@gourry47 bro it's not even accurate ☠
The most shocking part of it all is when you go back and watch Breaking Bad, knowing that Howard and Lalo are BOTH buried next to each-other under the lab.
Lalo does not deserve to be buried next to Howard. A monster next to a man that did his best to right his wrongs. As Nacho described him, Lalo really was a soulless pig.
@@lelouchvibritannia4028 So sad that nobody ever finds Howard ever again and has his reputation ruined.
Shimmy Yeah Shimmy Yeah
@@MrSpeedyAcereputation wasnt ruined. STUPID kim fessed up in writing. Only good she did
lol that's so sick and twisted, they're two MASSIVELY different characters, one an evil psychopath druglord and the other a suave lawyer whose a good person, both placed under gus' operations in a brutal fashion. So dark to be reminded of that. Especially since Howard didn't deserve ANY of this.
Lalo is a big shot drug lord, but he is humble and says "I am nobody". He is such a polite guy. We need more humble leaders like Lalo in our politics.
I'd argue that the problem is we already have them lol
I will become one just for you brother 🫡
Murderers in politics
@@JKBDTSwell at least he doesn’t hide or lie about who he is which ranks him a hair fiber above real politicians.
Hah, big shot 🎉
Even as one of the antagonists early on, Howard was a really good guy from beginning to end.
Character analysis skills: 0/10 🤦♂
He never was an antagonist
@@iNoodl3santagonist is not the same that villain, antagonists can be good guys too like Hank, Hank in certain moment in bb is the antagonist number 1 of Walter
@@cristobalsapiain2709 Exactly. Antagonist =/= villain.
Howard was more of a neutral character. Don't forget that he recommended Jimmy to Davis and Main.
4:29 Right after Howard said “I think I’m in the middle of something,” Lalo who playfully was preparing for his gun, slightly raised his left eyebrow. It suggested that Lalo was pleased that Howard realizing that something is going on, and he can’t wait to see what Jimmy and Kim’s reactions would be. That was a good detail to further reveal that he treated everything like a game. Even if that involved murdering someone like a psychopath.
The moment that broke us all internally.
😢😢
Don't pretend you weren't already broken from breaking bad. I still remember Andrea's death as one of the most intense scenes I've seen
I hated Howard so this wasn’t too bad for me
@@wdaniel891I get that, I can't stand people like Howard, whose success and mediocrity are interchangeable. But he's the only decent human being in the room. Hank, Mike, Andrea, Howard...game was rigged from the start.
Game was rigged in favor of Howard types from the beginning that's why many related to Jimmy and Kim's struggles @@AnarchyintheTerranFederation
People in 10 years are never gonna understand how shocking this was. This single scene makes you rethink 7 years of a characters journey, knowing it all ends here. I was in shock for like a minute after this episode.
Do you think this show isn't going to be available in 10 years or something? That doesn't make sense.
@@rr2637He means that, for the future generations, the impact of the scene would be less because they can watch the next episode right away but for us, who watched the episodes weekly, the impact and the emptyness were bigger because we have to wait a month to watch the next, leaving us in a extreme cliffhanger
@@hannercardonapena7408 That doesn't change the impact of it imo. The scene is still just as shocking if you don't spoil it for yourself even now. Same with the second half of Breaking Bad's final season, the wait isn't necessary for the gravity to hit you
@@rr2637 Well, maybe. But for the new people that feeling of dread or wait wouldn't be there 🤷♂️
@@hannercardonapena7408 It is if they only watch one episode a week or something. My point is that it's kinda nonsensical
This has to be the most stunning and shocking scene in any TV show I’ve ever seen
💯💯💯💯
Yes this and in breaking bad' with Hank.
Same 😂
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You had to be around for the Season 4 finale in Breaking Bad when it was live. Gus's death was huge. Howard's still tops it, personally, though.
It almost sounded like Howard was going to plead for Jimmy and Kim's lives before he was shot
He does in the script
I kinda feel Howard think Lalo is a disgruntled client/ another victim of Jimmy and Kim
Edit: well... Lalo kinda is, but Howard misjudge Lalo's real intention
"Theres really no need to hurt them" is what he was going to say in the script
On rewatch, the nail in the coffin for Howard was him saying he’s going to dedicate his life to finding out that everybody knows the truth, and Lalo only heard that part. There might’ve been a SLIGHT chance he could’ve walked away. Not high but still there.
Nah, Lalo would kill any random guy who might be telling anyone what he's doing and what he looks like as if he's Anton Chigurh. Didn't have to kill the clerk at all to get what he wanted but he did.
That’s a very good point. I also think Lalo was going to kill him no matter what just because of the way the last meeting in their apartment went. When Kim stood up to him and didn’t back down and this time Lalo was making the point that it wasn’t going to go down that way again. He was in charge.
@@thepaintingbanjo8894 you might be right but I can't help think that if Howard hadn't spent so much time in there, he could have walked away sooner and been spared. It's tragic because it was Howard's only indulgent tirade- where he had every right to be angry and cut loose- and he ends up dead for it.
Considering Lalo likely knew Howard had some kind of connection to the law and that the Jorge de Guzman identity was cracked, there was absolutely no way Howard was walking away alive.
As much as Howard despised Saul and Kim, apparently his last line was going to be that there was no need to hurt -them-. Only way Howard could have survived would have been if Saul and Kim played off Lalo walking in without showing they were obviously terrified. Once Howard realized something worse was going on than a client visiting, he wasn't going to leave them to whatever came next. At that point, he was dead. But, he probably would have been killed either way. At this point, Lalo had been betrayed by one of the only people he came to trust, lost the people he considered family, had to kill people he had known for years to cover his tracks, and he knows this was somehow related to Saul keeping secrets. Anyone in that room that he didn't need alive would serve to show just how serious of a situation they were in.
Howard’s character arc is one of the most superb in the breaking bad universe. From being demonised in the early seasons (mainly due to Chuck’s influence over him) to suffering one of, if not the most tragic deaths in the series.
So Howard’s entire arc is him constantly getting demolished by everyone😢
3:46 :
-"Who are you?"
-"Your resting mate for the rest of eternity".
Then they proceed to sleep next to each other for the rest of time, oblivious to all the commotion of Waltuh White cooking above them.
Pretty sure the police would find the bodies of both of them after Walt and Jesse blew up the underground lab.
@@gengeros330 did they ever bring that up in the timeskip episodes?
God bless y’all
@@gengeros330 nah they found bodyguards, not lalo and howard
“In their last moments, people show you who they really are.”
In Howard’s last moments, he was trying to say “There’s really no need to hurt them”. He was concerned about the safety of the people who had spent months ruining his life. He was dealt a dirty hand.
Howard's trip to Belize is the most shocking moment in the whole BB universe.
Bravo Vince
Where Mike went to
I love the fact that "sending someone to Belize" is a known synonym for BB/BCS fans.
Ohh that moment, so truly among the moments
Maybe, but for me, it was the second-most satisfying.
Too bad there wasn't much series left afterwards...
I love the little detail that there's a shift in the air current in the room caused by Lalo walking in, and that Jimmy notices the air making the candle flicker just before realizing Lalo himself is there. For just a moment, that shot of the candle looks like something out of a ghost movie, and then in walks Lalo, moving silently, and back from the "dead"
Good observation.
Kim noticed the candle flicker when Howard walked in too, which is why she instantly feels like something is off when it flickers again. A non-moment used to foreshadow a defining moment. Unbelievable stuff
@@calebsankey6945 You're right! I tell people that watching BCS is like watching a novel.
Yeah, the camera showed everyone.
BB/BCS fans When Vincent does something very common: 🤯
Fun fact: Howard was meant to say "you really don't need to.... hurt them", showing how despite all the crap Jimmy and Kim put him through, he is still a compassionate being towards them.
Source?
@@nakobu2725"trust me bro"
Fun facts are never fun
That's as fun a punch to the gut 🥲
@@sartbimpson4519 The script for the episode, nimrod
Not a terrible way to die:
1) Fast, you feel no pain.
2) You get to make one final badass speech.
3) Buzzed on Macallan. Again, no pain.
It's not about the pain he feels it's the pain we viewers get after watching this Howard is one of the most good guy in the entire bb saga and now he'll be remembered as someone who was a drug addict and engaging with street prostitutes. And noone's there to change that image of Howard
@@spinash7864 Good
@@SLKibara What's good about it? That bad guys won?
@@spinash7864 And his weird death will confirm all of this. "see ! I'm not surprised..." Kim gets a fireback with his wife after that tough.
@@spinash7864We are suffering for nothing. Many here will have a worse death than this character💀
When you actually realize it, Howard and Lalo were pretty similar with regards to their situations. They both wanted to expose their enemies and they both died trying to do that.
except Jimmy and Kim wasn't enemies to Howard. Yeah,i mean, they did a lot, but...Lalo had real enemies of his entire family to expose.
@@ПавелКаратыгин-у9п well, Jimmy and Kim sabotaged Howard's peace. He was doing fine without them.
Im sorry lalo exposing gus? How is that?
@@GXprogamer what I meant to say is, Lalo wanted to expose Gus and Howard wanted to expose Jimmy and Kim. Hence, their enemies respectively.
@@ПавелКаратыгин-у9пthey WERE enemies dude what Show you watched?
The death of Howard Hamlin has affected me like no other character's death has before. Even after all this time I still think about him, his amazing character arc, what kind of person he was and how he always tried his best to better himself and right his wrongs with others. The Breaking Bad series has been an amazing ride and character's like Howard and Nacho will forever change the way we see the events that happen. RIP 🙏🏽👔 Namast3
Almost a whole year later and it's still so uncomfortable to wacth Howard's death scene. Really makes you think how impactful and how real Better Call Saul felt when you watched it on those Sunday nights. RIP Howard Hamlin🙏🏽
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@@all_mesa_man922 cuck?
This. Even today, Plan and Execution is still really uncomfortable and painful to watch, at least for me. Howard's death is the most tragic and undeserved.
@@hibick3 very true, very true
@@all_mesa_man922🤡
I just finished the show for the first time yesterday. Watched this episode and needed a considerable amount of time afterward. Everything was perfectly executed, loved every second of this and the reveal of Lalo with Jimmy and Kim reacting alongside the audience is something that will continue to give me chills every watch. Truly astounding work.
"Everything was perfectly executed" very poor choice of words
Howard shared the same type of tragedy as Hank. From finding out that someone close to you was your worst enemy all along, then they end up getting killed in the event where they confront and reveal them for the atrocious human-beings they turn out to be. Both of them were heroes in a world of anti-heroes and villains that devoured them in the end.
I love how confident they are until they actually have to deal with the consequences of their actions and lalo walks in lmao
This scene would have been so much better if Howard said, “he’s behind me, isn’t he”
🤣
unbravo vince
"Snap"
hi im saul goodman did you know you have five nights?
Would’ve been even better if there was an awkward pause of silence after Howard hit the ground and then Jimmy exclaimed “Well that just happened!”
This scene was it. The climax that the entire show built towards. Everyone involved played it perfectly. This show was something else
I mean, I think that's more so Jimmy in court?
@@darksideofevil13 Not in the slightest. That was the resolution. The entire sixth season was basically a play in 5 acts à la Lessing, with Howards execution and the fight against him serving as climax, Jimmy in hideout as the retarding moment, and Jimmy in court as resolution.
Your‘re right. It connected two worlds. And we were waiting for it the entire time
Even though the ending was phenomenal for Saul’s character and I loved that he did the right thing, Howard didn’t deserve any of the crap Saul put him through. He was just in the wrong place at the wrong time
I would hate to be Patrick Fabian's family watching this. That was one of the most brutally realistic death scenes I've ever seen. Amazing acting and directing
Im sure he warned them not to watch it.
he came between zack and kelly in 1993, he deserves this
"brutally realistic" is correct, but the most realistic will always be Combo's
@@penske_materialyea because grown men get shot by kids being used by the cartel soo often right? 🤦♂️ think before you type
Yeah, I always wonder how actors smooth over scenes like this with their families.. imagine Krysten Ritter's or Michael Mando's mother watching Jane or Nacho die. Most likely, they simply warn their families before watching the episode in question.
I can't understand how this scene didn't win an Emmy.
Do scenes win Emmys?
Writers and actors do. Everyone deserved an Emmy for this episode!
Howard was a moral man in the whole BB and BCS universe. His death truly shocked me...
Lalo really felt like a slasher villian in this scene, with the candle flickering and him slowly coming into frame while still being blurred out. Giving him a sorta disfigured look momentarily. But even after that you can feel the danger his presence has. Just being there was scary.
3:57 man it was so weird seeing them side by side like that...
Two completely different people, diametrically opposed
Yes, Lalo is evil, in the background of darkness, hiding, part of the criminal underworld. Howard is honest and forefront, forward, standing in the light. Honest with Lalo even, "Find better lawyers", confronting. Nice spot. Love this kind of stuff. Even at the end he was trying to negotiate with Lalo but didnt think he'd get shot like that. Lalo on the other hand.. Evil, simple, but evil. It's ironic but expected he died later on. You reap what you sow, Lalo, lol. Howard was going to go the long road, Lalo took the cheap and fast road and it got him killed still.
Lalo's gentle smile is always charismatic
Gentle?
@@StringerBell92 I mean minimal
@@Sunnyking77 lol I was about to say there was nothing gentle about Lalo 🤣
@@StringerBell92 😄😄
I've never felt so shocked, watching a character die. It was so sudden and fast, I felt like a real person died
This showed me even more how great this series is and how convincing these characters are
Howard had them pegged 100%, but he still didn't know the half of it.
I wanna get pegged by Howard
The acting when they see Lalo and the perfect candle flame being disturbed by the change in air pressure was so well done.
Same thing happens last season when lalo enters
Howard wasn't a bad person. He seemed to always try to do the right thing. The shame is he cared enough about Kim and Jimmy to confront them like it would resolve anything and then thinking it would even really matter. RIP to one of the real ones.
Lalo is by far, the most terrifying character, more than Todd or Gus.
Easily agreed on
I always thought Tuco was the scariest
@@burgerkingmyers9391 Yeah, Tuco has the unpredictability factor about him. Really, *all* the Salamancas are scary in their own ways except Hecter after he became paralyzed.
Todd I'd say is more "unsettling" than scary because there's something so off about him mentally. Gus is intimidating, but he's at least reasonable to a certain point.
Gus feared Lalo
Nuff said
@Logan912 idk if wheelchair bound Hector stared at me, scrunched up his face and started hitting his bell only for it to make dull clanking noises 😳
This scene will never get old. The acting and direction is just so perfect.
What I can respect with how much Howard endured unlike Jimmy and Kim he handles it healthfully while planning to keep moving forward. He and Jesse are the most resilient in the shows.
And hank
This might be the most powerful death in TV. Because Howard was without a doubt one of the few characters in Better Call Saul who was genuinely a good dude. He didn’t deserve this fate.
He didn’t deserve death but he’s wasn’t perfect good guy he kinda deserved to get scammed if you really think about it
Most powerful death in TV is Mark Greene in ER to me.
It worked so well because we went on the entire journey of hating the guy to liking him for all the flaws he had, and realising that he was really the good guy in the series. If he was portrayed as good from the very start the death wouldn't have been as effective. It's why his death was a lot more of a shock than Hank's
@@smartwater598What did he even do to deserve being scammed
@@smartwater598 people like you will watch a show about murderers and say a character like Howard is bad because he didn’t pay a parking ticket.
Lalo and Howard met on the same day for the first time, stood side by side, died the same day, and were buried side by side in the shape of a heart, Man the direction is just beyond words!!!!
The worst part is that this is what it took for Jimmy and Kim to feel bad about what they'd done. Howard explaining how his life was in bits didn't mean a thing to them. Only when he was dead on the floor did they care.
It's amazing how both plotlines of Jimmy and Kim terrorising Howard and Lalo's return to Albuquerque crossover.
Howard is an extremely important character in the show. Jimmy and Kim have known him for years, but to Lalo he's just another random guy to kill. There's zero emotion from him, but it's absolutely devastating for everyone else, the audience included.
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I legitimately thought after chuck's death that Howard would sort of fade into obscurity and maybe make an occasional return every now and then (kinda like badger and skinny pete as bb progressed). He didn't seem to have much of an obvious purpose in the show anymore. Wow was I wrong
Devastated? lol
Howard was an absolute POS human, through-and-though.
If you feel sorry for a guy like that, you suck at judging character.
Plan and Execution was seriously insane, I haven't been on the edge of my seat like that since Game of Thrones. Such rare moments that the viewer has to earn! Brilliant.
BCS's writing is much better than GoT's
@@omegajrz1269 absolutely no comparison . GoT after S6(maybe even s4) is hot garbage
@@rivireshmishra8214 I never saw the series.
I love how Howard exposed them and they knew he was absolutely right.
They couldn't even make an attempt to justify themselves
I think they knew he'd show up looking for a fight, so they just let him rant and get it out of his system, and were waiting patiently for him to gas himself out and leave. They never intended on defending or justifying themselves, their plan was to remain silent the whole time.
@@murphsmurf87 that makes me hate them even more. It sucks that Howard had to die like that but at least his death ruined their relationship and put a burden of intense guilt on them for the rest of their lives. It would have been incredibly unsatisfying to see them get away with it. They're just awful.
That's true.
I especially hated Kim here because she look incredibly smug. Like how did they think they were in the right for half this season. I hated watching their side of the show because of them trying to ruin Howard’s life.
@@coolguy_42 nah y’all so naive lol just because howard looks so vulnerable last season he’s such a good guy lol also let’s not act like his kim and saul planned his death also howard kinda deserve the scamming by jimmy like jimmy said howard could’ve got back to his feet just fine it’s just things got out of hand because of lalo
Can't believe they decided to bury him with lalo, he deserved so much better
I think what I loved most about this scene is that the music cuts out as soon as Howard dies. It sucks that he dies😢 4:26
Notice how Howard when he falls hits his head on the edge of the table, it’s reminiscent of how Chuck hit his head in a previous episode. This was a nice touch demonstrating how Jimmy’s actions lead to people dying even when he didn’t plan on it.
2:18 Love Howard's speech. It's like a judging God pointing out Jimmy and Kim, at last.
4:38 Lalo seems so genuinely surprised when they’re being so loud after witnessing that
The candle, the eeriness, Jimmy & Kim being straight up terrified & Lalo entering with almost no sound in stealthy Batman fashion, makes this like a horror show & Lalo being the demon
From all the media I've consumed, other shows, movies, games, anime, there hasn't been something in MANY years that has turned my stomach as much as Howard's execution, it legitimately had me shook for a few hours or days afterwards. Even Nacho, one of my favorite characters in the series, didn't leave me as distraught as this, and you arguably weren't supposed to like Howard for more than half of the series, it's absolutely insane. And all for one simple reason: he wasn't in the game and he didn't deserve it. I bet most of us can relate to Mike's disgust to not only Jimmy and Kim's actions leading to this (albeit perhaps a bit hypocritically), but all the prior deaths that he helped cause to people who weren't involved. Brilliant writing and acting all around, still miss this show and universe.
also sidenote that completely breaks the mood: Lalo's "me? nobody" reminds me of that Beetlejuice meme that's been going around recently and it was very distracting, was fully expecting him to say "just hangin' around"
Nothing can replicate the shock by watching this scene for the first time.This show is pure gold
Unfortunately it was spoiled for me by a TH-cam reaction video title "Howard's death scene". Doh. Don't go on the internet AT ALL if you want to avoid spoilers for something current/popular, they will find you even if you try to avoid them.
@@BrianDemong that sucks.Internet can really ruin so many experiences
@@BrianDemong it sucks, but its something always good to learn. When youre watching a show you really like, you'll search for interviews, commentaries, music trailers, anything. You train the search engine algorithm to tell it you are VERY interested in that show, and the internet will only know to feed you any spoilers immediately.
There is no fighting against it either. The only thing you can do is completely disconnect yourself from the internet until you watch the show.
@@noatiendoboludos It's specifically spoilers in titles/headlines/thumbnails that I mean, but yeah, you're right
In those last seconds Howard had, from the look on his face, turning to Kim and Saul and saying "there's really no need to" I think he really did feel they were both capable at this point of anything, including murdering him and felt Lalo was in on it with Kim and Saul. His expression showed these people are monsters and he just needed to get out fearing for his life rather than further antagonising anyone.
Makes the whole thing much more tragic and sad. Still best moment in the whole series, possibly including BB too