Mike saw a kid about to make a VERY risky gamble to save his father which is what earned Nacho some sympathy and advice. Even if Mike wanted to talk him out of it he knew Nacho wouldn’t let anything happen to his dad. The same Mike won’t let won’t let anything happen to his granddaughter and daughter in law.
Also, it reminds me of Mike's experience with his own son. Mike didn't want his son to be involved in corruption or any criminal behavior. And Nacho, doesn't want his dad to be involved in any criminal behavior.
Ironically listening to Mike is what made Nacho get caught by Gus. It was Mike's idea to switch the pills back and that's why Nacho picked them up from the floor. That was the thing that made Gus very suspicious of him.
Yeah, but a lot more people would have been a lot better off if Mike had just shut up and killed Tuco Salamanca like he was hired to do. Sure, Nacho probably still ends up dead, but then Hector never threatens Mike’s family to get Tuco’s sentence reduced, Mike never goes to war with Hector, Hector never tries to take Manny Varga’s business to replace his crippled distribution network, Nacho never tampers with Hector’s heart pills, Lalo never steps in to take Hector’s place, Jimmy McGill never makes his mark defending Lalo, Lalo never kills Howard, Kim sticks around and “Saul Goodman” never consumes Jimmy’s life.
It could have been anywhere though, why only check the gas cap and then stop looking? Not sure if there was further context for him looking there, I've never seen the show.
@@magetaaaaaa Mike found out he was being tracked by the Salamancas in an earlier episode, and suspected that the tracker was on his car, he took the car apart bit by bit eventually finding it was inside the gas cap. He made the assumption that if the Salamancas were tracking Nacho, they would hide it inside the gas cap.
Mike was given three (I include Jimmy) chances to tell these younger guys to not be crooked and do the right thing but even after losing his son and feeling remorseful that he made him debase himself right before his death, he stuck to his ways. He dug himself deep and showed he didn't learn from his son to try to be a good man. Sure he's not fully responsible for Jimmy, Nacho, or Jesse but it couldn't have been more obvious that these guys needed help like his son did and not to be given criminal advice or have their sins further enabled.
I'm gonna need one more thing from you ... convince your father to upholster my card with alligator leather! I don't care if it clashes with the car, I just like it!
Even sadder is that he has probably been on that path since he was a young teenager and didn't know better. Most people in that life get started very young. And just like Nacho learns it's hard to get out, especially if you have people you love.
Nacho’s father was like Matty (Mikes son) they both hesitated on taking the money, and just by doing that they were deemed untrustworthy and had to be killed. Nacho did the right thing, even though he brought it on himself by working with them, in the end fate plays it’s games and you gotta deal with the cards you got.
In theory, there is one other thing he could have done. Gone to the cops himself. He's got enough heavy material to get the cops to take him seriously enough to get his dad witness protection, and I doubt that killing the dad is even going to register on the Cartel's radar compared to going after Nacho. There's a good chance he wouldn't have survived (I mean, Lalo probably would have been called up for something like this), but his dad probably would have been fine.
It is possible, but Hector would have to get his hands on his dad while under police protection for a threat like that to be credible, which is darn tricky considering that they can't kill him in the process, or they lose their leverage. And if he worried about the police dragging their feet, Nacho could ask Mike to keep him safe in the meantime, who he knows full well is a sucker for a request like that. If Hector knew it was going to happen he could make a move, but if he knew that Nacho was out to get him he probably would have watched his pills better. @@raulbetancourt5795
Nacho was in too deep to walk away from this. He had no other option but to switch Hectors meds with paracetamol or ibuprofen or sugar pills whichever ones he switched them for.
Right before his death, Nacho confirms they were just sugar pills. That was smart because any other actual medication could've brought on symptoms/ side effects that doctors could have traced back to those pills as well as possibly still be circulating in his body after death to be found in an autopsy. Sugar pills will just make it appear he simply stopped taking them or wasn't taking them as often as he should have which doesn't really raise any red flags.
Mike said at some point that Hector was taking nitroglycerin, which is prescribed for chest pain caused by narrowed cardiac blood vessels (angina). It’s typically taken as needed to alleviate an angina attack, which would be why Hector had it with him all the time. But in reality it’s in little glass bottles since it easily loses potency. And also in reality it won’t prevent or help with a stroke; severe angina is more likely to lead to a heart attack than a stroke.
@@JayRamahi3810 Jesse would be dead if Walt didn't bend over backwards keeping him alive, and the funny thing is that if he had just let Jesse die things would have gone a lot smoother for him.
@@JayRamahi3810 The thing is though there was nothing Nacho could've done to prevent his death, Jesse on the other hand had endless opportunities to walk away
@@SuigaRou yeah. People treat Walt as this super abusive toxic figure for Jesse, which he was, but they ignore the parts where Walt has literally risked both his and his families lives to save Jesse. He cared about Jesse undoubtedly.
That’s the decision that alternated the whole nacho’s universe. If he didn’t crippled hector then gus couldn’t make him his mule, eventually died in a tragic way.
True. But if he didn't, then Hector would have kept butting heads with his dad until he got irritated enough to kill him (which would have happened). At least this way, his Dad lives which is ultimately all he wanted at the end.
Hector told nacho straight up he didn't trust his father.... And his father was too straight too be hector mule in the long term His father was gonna get killed
Mike and Nacho have respect for each other they both know none of them will say anything about business to anyone, they have both admitted many things like killing people and where they buried them alot of trust between them
As wise as it sounds, it was Mike's advice which screwed Nacho. It's when Nacho switched the pills back when Gus saw him and turned his into his slave and ultimately got him killed. It might have been better if he never switched them back, even if they found out it was the pills, they might not have known it was him.
Nah, You're SO wrong here. If Nacho DIDN'T switch the pills back, once the doctors would find out that Hector's bloodstream didn't have nitro pills for a week or so, they'd inquire about it to Hector's family, and they'd give the doctors the bottle, and once the doctors find out its sugar powder inside the capsules, it'd only be a matter of time before Hector's family investigates and Nacho has has to confess...which would lead to a more painful, torturous and brutal d*ath for Nacho AND his dad... What Nacho did, had he taken Mike's full advice and done it carefully so that he doesn't get caught... He would've been k*lled during the co*aine ceal qith gus...but his dad would've lived Either ways, he was dy*ng in every possible scenario
Nacho is a smart guy, but he really needed someone like Mike to remind him to think his plans through. Like switching the pills is a solid plan, but Nacho needed to be reminded that the plan doesn't just end when Hector is dead he needed to think about how to cover his tracks. Same when he was planning on killing Tuco, his plan just stopped at the kill, not thinking about the consequences of having him killed.
It's like all those time traveling plots about "if someone goes back in time and kills Hitler, they prevent WWII and save the world!" Except, no. Now you've got Himmler taking control, or the Soviets have a much easier time taking over Europe. Or any other number of things that could potentially be even worse. Taking out one bad guy without understanding how that bad guy got into power in the first place is a fatal mistake. That's exactly the problem Nacho faced. He didn't even know at the time that Lalo existed, and as we saw, Lalo was much worse than Hector.
The one bad pill idea MIGHT work but it is not as sure. Depending on the severity of his case and how fast he reacts. It could work but it is iffy. Most people on this planet take more than one if they feel like their first one ain’t getting it done. So maybe it works but you switch them all and your odds definitely go WAY up.
Wow, the line about needing to worry about more than just the Salamancas ended up being great foreshadowing. Hector wasn't Nacho's final problem - Gus is who ended up getting him killed.
Hector probably had a “Danny”running the ice cream shop for him, as Saul Goodman would put it, ready to take the fall. Hector’s name also probably wasn’t on the shop’s paperwork anyway because of his criminal record. For all their mistakes, the Salamancas generally seem to be good at avoiding paper trails.
Oh, that makes a lot of sense (though I wouldn’t have thought that any American law precluded business ownership after felony conviction?) . . . Makes one wonder if Fring had some casual ‘Danny’ in his Los Pollos warehouse distribution but I think that the size / scale of Fring’s business empire would have made plausible deniability via a Danny a distinctly _implausible_ prospect . . . Thanks for the response anyway! - _muy_ appreciated _mi amigo_ 👍
@@edwardcatt2399Gus was different!!! He owned all the Los Pollos Hemanos operations so he had his name over all the papers as it is… It’s why he became friends with the DEA as Hank said as it was a case of keeping your enemies close but the more Gus tried to hide his operation from Hank the more he exposed it! Gus hid by operating in plain sight being a member of the community as he was TOO big to stay hidden…
@@SuperJutah - I think that by the time he had the online schematics for the laundry’s industrial washing machine (i.e., the superlab’s concealed door), which didn’t correspond with its on-site photograph that Gomez almost casually snapped whilst walking by it in the two-man DEA inspection, Hank was basically going to get Fring now anyway even if Walt / Hector didn’t get him first in the ambush bombing. There was now too much suspicion coupled with actual hard evidence for suspicious activity centered on Lavandería Brillante . . .
the same way real Mexican cartels leaders basically are untouchable in real world. american laws dont apply to them and a fall guy is delivered once every so often as to satiate public backlash
Funny enough had he just dropped a single ricin pill in Hector’s pill bottle, the rest of the pills would’ve been legitimate and Hector would’ve been out of the picture.
I don't mind hypocrisy; all criminals might have it. I point at Hector's stupidity. He recklessly picked Nacho's father, his employee's dear father, to be his partner in crime assuming the old man will be more than willing to. Not only got humiliated by the rejection, but Hector also indirectly created his biggest enemy which led to his downfall. Nacho, his employee.
That would not work. Nitroglycerine dilates the blood vessels for cardiac trouble. The only way that Hector would die (or I guess in this case be crippled) was if he were taking nothing except sugar pills for a while.
I know this was writing after BB, but I wonder if Mike developed a soft spot for Jesse because he was unable to save Nacho who was also way in over his head but wasn't necessarily a bad person at heart. I actually kind of wonder at what point the writers began planning BCS.
Mike must be warning Nacho about Gus, albeit indirectly because he never mentioned Gus' name but he stated that the Salamancas are not the only threats to deal with in this scenario.
Mike just spoiling the end for Nacho. But how tight is the writing, this decision lead exactly to what Mike predicted. This was probably a throw away line for Mike but someone ran with it. If that's how it went down then it's similar to how Rogue One essentially came about.
I love how Nacho and Mike are talking about some of the most terrifying dangerous people out there while Pyrce is just sitting there like, who dafaq is Hector?
instead of replacing the pills with sugar pills wouldnt it make more sense to just make one of the pills an extremely powerful poison that cant be detected or makes it look like he had a heart attack? that way it becomes imposible to know the pills even did it because someone could assume that maybe his drink was poisoned or it was natural causes.
You can skip to Season 3, which is when Gus and most of the cartel plot takes center stage. Most of the legal stuff with Chuck was the earlier seasons, it gets less focus from S3 onward.
People seem to be saying the fake pills aren't poison, they're just empty pills (sugar or sg) so he needs to take a lot of non pills for his health to deteriorate, not just the one
To those that didn’t watch Better Call Saul: the “thing” he needs from Nacho is to take his pants down (except his underwear) and sit on a pie next to Pryce for a double pie sitting competition.
Late reply but it was to find out where they buried the body of that Samaritan that Hector killed (the civilian who found and helped Hector's truck driver from Mike's previous ambush).
I wonder why Nacho had to go to the trouble of switching back after Hector had consumed it. What instead if Nacho had simply just put 1 bad pill in to the box of regular pills and put it back. At some point, Hector would have eventually consumed the 1 bad pill after which there is no more trace of the bad pills.
Hector needed to take more than one bad pill for the stroke to occur; it wasn't poison, it was a different medication that would increase the chance of a stroke over time. Therefore the pill bottle needed multiple switched pills.
It isn't poison, it's sugar pills. His idea was he takes enough sugar pills instead of real medicine, his health gets worse gradually instead of him just dying overnight.
He could have switched 1. Then he wouldn't have to switch it back. Eventually he woild grab for the one it wouldn't work and he would die. Gus wouldn't see him pick up the pills and wouldn't go after him.
He didnt turn the heart meds into instant death poison pills. He swapped them for sugar pills, effectively turning hector's meds into placebos. 1 missed pill wouldnt have done it. On top of that, if hector didnt get pissed off and start screaming, it still might have taken months for his heart to start acting up
He could do that if time was on his side which he hasn't. Since his dad refused to work for Hector, it was a matter of time the latter would kill him for that
@@BacklTrack yeah exactly, his health was already on the line, which is where Nacho got the idea from. Nacho thought that if Hector stopped taking his pills for a while, it was only a matter of time before he died of a heart attack. But Hector needed to be taking fake pills for a good while before that happened, missing just a single pill wouldn't really affect his health much. The pills don't really stop a heart attack, they only prevent it.
Very few people notice this but: at the end, Nacho asks Mike "are you going to let us do this deal?" Which is a sign of extreme respect. It shows how much his view has changed of Mike vs when he came to his father's shop, and he called Mike an old man with a look on his face like he was ready to jump on him.
...I don't see how a small supporting character ruined an entire show for you when there are other great characters. Pryce is just an amateur guy to the crime scene, not meant to be taken that seriously.
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Mike saw a kid about to make a VERY risky gamble to save his father which is what earned Nacho some sympathy and advice. Even if Mike wanted to talk him out of it he knew Nacho wouldn’t let anything happen to his dad. The same Mike won’t let won’t let anything happen to his granddaughter and daughter in law.
Also, it reminds me of Mike's experience with his own son.
Mike didn't want his son to be involved in corruption or any criminal behavior.
And Nacho, doesn't want his dad to be involved in any criminal behavior.
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Walt probably at home eating meatloaf rn
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What Jesse doing then
@@SharkIeyChilli P, possibly
@@SharkIeymef probably 😃
@@SharkIey sexy neighbor
I like that Pryce learns a little bit about the business he called Mike knowing It was better than going alone. When in doubt call Ehrmantraut
Lol true. Though Nacho getting past his new home security system probably made him realize he wasn’t safe.
Better call Ehrmantraut.
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A lot of people in the _Breaking Bad_ universe would have been a lot better off if they had listened to Mike.
Imagine a world where Jimmy paid the 5 USD for parking or had enough stickers everytime.
Except Mike's son
@@Ghaltouniyou didn’t have to…
Ironically listening to Mike is what made Nacho get caught by Gus. It was Mike's idea to switch the pills back and that's why Nacho picked them up from the floor. That was the thing that made Gus very suspicious of him.
Yeah, but a lot more people would have been a lot better off if Mike had just shut up and killed Tuco Salamanca like he was hired to do. Sure, Nacho probably still ends up dead, but then Hector never threatens Mike’s family to get Tuco’s sentence reduced, Mike never goes to war with Hector, Hector never tries to take Manny Varga’s business to replace his crippled distribution network, Nacho never tampers with Hector’s heart pills, Lalo never steps in to take Hector’s place, Jimmy McGill never makes his mark defending Lalo, Lalo never kills Howard, Kim sticks around and “Saul Goodman” never consumes Jimmy’s life.
I love Nachos transformation over the show
Me too, I hope nothing bad happens to him.
@@MrZega000 Or Mike, I´m sure they all get happy endings :).
Nacho transformed A LOT
This is the exact moment Nacho became Ignacio
Absolute mind blowing transformation
I like how Mike checked for a tracker.
Which is eventually how Nacho got found out
It could have been anywhere though, why only check the gas cap and then stop looking? Not sure if there was further context for him looking there, I've never seen the show.
@@magetaaaaaa Mike found out he was being tracked by the Salamancas in an earlier episode, and suspected that the tracker was on his car, he took the car apart bit by bit eventually finding it was inside the gas cap. He made the assumption that if the Salamancas were tracking Nacho, they would hide it inside the gas cap.
@@MattystarX he was being tracked by gus not the Salamancas
@@iFROS7 Ah you're right bro I got mixed up!
How did that lead to nacho being found out?
Mike keeps being a dad to guys like Nacho and Jesse. They both gotta have aspects that remind him of his son he lost.
It's probably their age, could be that was how old Matty was when he died.
@@ILove-qr6ms Late teens/ early 20's. Seems about right, they said his son idolized him. Both Nacho & Jesse did a lot for mike unasked.
Mike was given three (I include Jimmy) chances to tell these younger guys to not be crooked and do the right thing but even after losing his son and feeling remorseful that he made him debase himself right before his death, he stuck to his ways. He dug himself deep and showed he didn't learn from his son to try to be a good man. Sure he's not fully responsible for Jimmy, Nacho, or Jesse but it couldn't have been more obvious that these guys needed help like his son did and not to be given criminal advice or have their sins further enabled.
@@Losojostristes I mean, 3rd time was the charm, Jesse lived, followed Mikes advice, lived in Alaska away from everyone.
@@nivekian Sure but definitely could have come as early as Jane's death.
Funny that Nacho perfectly fits Vaas' description of Insanity. Keeps getting rid of Salamancas expecting things change but another one appears.
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Holy shit u r right
Whack-A-Salamanca
Lalo: *TACA TACA TACA EN MI CABALLO*
To be fair Vaas' lifted that from, not Einstein but, wait for it... Alcoholics Anonymous.
I'm gonna need one more thing from you ... convince your father to upholster my card with alligator leather! I don't care if it clashes with the car, I just like it!
The seat too, it’s off its axis
@@AbdulGabagool83it’s askew
@@AbdulGabagool83 is this a sopranos reference???
@@deuslra3088 yes :)
like i said it has a sentimental value!
The ' im not getting into anythimg. Im in' line really breaks me. ' just a kid who knows he fucked with his choices in life and has accepted it
Even sadder is that he has probably been on that path since he was a young teenager and didn't know better. Most people in that life get started very young. And just like Nacho learns it's hard to get out, especially if you have people you love.
1:58 The answer to how did Mike find Jimmy in the desert
Has it ever been a mystery ? lol
"I'm going to need one more thing from you" Finger: *unzips*
Delete this cursed shit. Now.
Pryce: should I bring out the pies?
Pryce: "You're in my house fatso, and you didn't ask permission."
ayoooooooo. 💀💀💀
Nachuh...
Nacho’s father was like Matty (Mikes son) they both hesitated on taking the money, and just by doing that they were deemed untrustworthy and had to be killed.
Nacho did the right thing, even though he brought it on himself by working with them, in the end fate plays it’s games and you gotta deal with the cards you got.
Cringe
@@haerfgvbag7050 Take some magnesium for your muscle spasms.
In theory, there is one other thing he could have done.
Gone to the cops himself. He's got enough heavy material to get the cops to take him seriously enough to get his dad witness protection, and I doubt that killing the dad is even going to register on the Cartel's radar compared to going after Nacho. There's a good chance he wouldn't have survived (I mean, Lalo probably would have been called up for something like this), but his dad probably would have been fine.
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You think the salamanca wouldn't use Nacho's father to stop him from talking?
It is possible, but Hector would have to get his hands on his dad while under police protection for a threat like that to be credible, which is darn tricky considering that they can't kill him in the process, or they lose their leverage. And if he worried about the police dragging their feet, Nacho could ask Mike to keep him safe in the meantime, who he knows full well is a sucker for a request like that.
If Hector knew it was going to happen he could make a move, but if he knew that Nacho was out to get him he probably would have watched his pills better. @@raulbetancourt5795
Mike: "I'm not telling you anything." (proceeds to tell him lots of stuff)
Mike fell sorry for him because he caused the scenario with hector forcing nachos father to work for him.
True, seems getting rid of Tuco only causes worse problems in this series…
@@matthewriley7826 No it's cuz Mike kept sabotaging Hector's supply lines which made Hector want to take over Nacho's dad's business
Yup technically Nachos death is on Mikes hands because he couldn’t let his grudge against Hector go.
Nacho was in too deep to walk away from this.
He had no other option but to switch Hectors meds with paracetamol or ibuprofen or sugar pills whichever ones he switched them for.
Right before his death, Nacho confirms they were just sugar pills. That was smart because any other actual medication could've brought on symptoms/ side effects that doctors could have traced back to those pills as well as possibly still be circulating in his body after death to be found in an autopsy. Sugar pills will just make it appear he simply stopped taking them or wasn't taking them as often as he should have which doesn't really raise any red flags.
@@ArchilochusOfParos Hector wouldn't have had issues skipping a pill. He needed to switch the whole bottle
@@BlvxkByrdit was ibuprofen, but I guess "yeah, your heart meds? I swapped them for Ibuprofen 10mg" didn't sound as cool
@zekeiwa5837 No, it wasn't. At no point do any of them say it was ibuprofen and we have Nacho saying they were placebos. Go away.
Mike said at some point that Hector was taking nitroglycerin, which is prescribed for chest pain caused by narrowed cardiac blood vessels (angina). It’s typically taken as needed to alleviate an angina attack, which would be why Hector had it with him all the time. But in reality it’s in little glass bottles since it easily loses potency. And also in reality it won’t prevent or help with a stroke; severe angina is more likely to lead to a heart attack than a stroke.
Mike : So you switch the pills to kill Hector?
Nacho : No. I am actually a homeopath.
Lol
Funniest comment here 😂
plot twist: Pryce tipped Gus off on Nacho swapping the nitro pills
Maybe to get back at hi for being a dick!
If only Jesse had half the brains as Nacho
Not a very persuasive argument when you realize the former is the one who lived
@@JayRamahi3810Walt stood for Jesse in the end. No one tried to rescue Nacho.
@@JayRamahi3810 Jesse would be dead if Walt didn't bend over backwards keeping him alive, and the funny thing is that if he had just let Jesse die things would have gone a lot smoother for him.
@@JayRamahi3810 The thing is though there was nothing Nacho could've done to prevent his death, Jesse on the other hand had endless opportunities to walk away
@@SuigaRou yeah. People treat Walt as this super abusive toxic figure for Jesse, which he was, but they ignore the parts where Walt has literally risked both his and his families lives to save Jesse. He cared about Jesse undoubtedly.
Mike is the GOAT. Very meticulously methodical. Love him!!❤
He's an old school guy, very allegorical
Two actors at the top of their games.
This is the definition of “if you’re gonna be a criminal, do your homework.” I like how Pryce got to witness it.
Pryce would also respect his goal to protect his father!
That’s the decision that alternated the whole nacho’s universe. If he didn’t crippled hector then gus couldn’t make him his mule, eventually died in a tragic way.
True. But if he didn't, then Hector would have kept butting heads with his dad until he got irritated enough to kill him (which would have happened).
At least this way, his Dad lives which is ultimately all he wanted at the end.
Hector told nacho straight up he didn't trust his father....
And his father was too straight too be hector mule in the long term
His father was gonna get killed
Two excellent actors
And thank whoever developed Mike's character! Mike wasn't smart, the writer who created Mike was.
I love how much depth they added to Jesse and Mike's relationship through Nacho's storyline alone.
Crazy that they were talking about all this in front of Pryce, he is so obviously a loose end
I don’t think he cares, and can even sympathize
Mike and Nacho have respect for each other they both know none of them will say anything about business to anyone, they have both admitted many things like killing people and where they buried them alot of trust between them
As wise as it sounds, it was Mike's advice which screwed Nacho. It's when Nacho switched the pills back when Gus saw him and turned his into his slave and ultimately got him killed. It might have been better if he never switched them back, even if they found out it was the pills, they might not have known it was him.
The advice wasn't bad. It's that he should've done it without anyone seeing him, that was the problem.
Nah, You're SO wrong here.
If Nacho DIDN'T switch the pills back, once the doctors would find out that Hector's bloodstream didn't have nitro pills for a week or so, they'd inquire about it to Hector's family, and they'd give the doctors the bottle, and once the doctors find out its sugar powder inside the capsules, it'd only be a matter of time before Hector's family investigates and Nacho has has to confess...which would lead to a more painful, torturous and brutal d*ath for Nacho AND his dad...
What Nacho did, had he taken Mike's full advice and done it carefully so that he doesn't get caught... He would've been k*lled during the co*aine ceal qith gus...but his dad would've lived
Either ways, he was dy*ng in every possible scenario
Nacho is a smart guy, but he really needed someone like Mike to remind him to think his plans through.
Like switching the pills is a solid plan, but Nacho needed to be reminded that the plan doesn't just end when Hector is dead he needed to think about how to cover his tracks.
Same when he was planning on killing Tuco, his plan just stopped at the kill, not thinking about the consequences of having him killed.
It's like all those time traveling plots about "if someone goes back in time and kills Hitler, they prevent WWII and save the world!" Except, no. Now you've got Himmler taking control, or the Soviets have a much easier time taking over Europe. Or any other number of things that could potentially be even worse. Taking out one bad guy without understanding how that bad guy got into power in the first place is a fatal mistake. That's exactly the problem Nacho faced. He didn't even know at the time that Lalo existed, and as we saw, Lalo was much worse than Hector.
He's smart but very unexperienced
"I'm not getting into anything, I'm in it" 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
The one bad pill idea MIGHT work but it is not as sure. Depending on the severity of his case and how fast he reacts. It could work but it is iffy. Most people on this planet take more than one if they feel like their first one ain’t getting it done. So maybe it works but you switch them all and your odds definitely go WAY up.
Nacho was like "IM BREAKING GOOD"
I like how Mike points out that nacho didn’t think of anything after Hector‘s death or the consequences of the aftermath
This is probably the first time in history of drug deals with the muscle of one side. It was helping and giving advice to the other side.
"Bullet in your head" Amazing foreshadowing my Mike
Wow, the line about needing to worry about more than just the Salamancas ended up being great foreshadowing. Hector wasn't Nacho's final problem - Gus is who ended up getting him killed.
Truly the moment the kid named Finger needed one more thing from Nacho
I must know that one more thing!!!
Why was Hector never arrested in connection to the DEA raid and closure of his front ‘El Griego Guiñador’?
Hector probably had a “Danny”running the ice cream shop for him, as Saul Goodman would put it, ready to take the fall. Hector’s name also probably wasn’t on the shop’s paperwork anyway because of his criminal record. For all their mistakes, the Salamancas generally seem to be good at avoiding paper trails.
Oh, that makes a lot of sense (though I wouldn’t have thought that any American law precluded business ownership after felony conviction?) . . .
Makes one wonder if Fring had some casual ‘Danny’ in his Los Pollos warehouse distribution but I think that the size / scale of Fring’s business empire would have made plausible deniability via a Danny a distinctly _implausible_ prospect . . .
Thanks for the response anyway! - _muy_ appreciated _mi amigo_ 👍
@@edwardcatt2399Gus was different!!! He owned all the Los Pollos Hemanos operations so he had his name over all the papers as it is… It’s why he became friends with the DEA as Hank said as it was a case of keeping your enemies close but the more Gus tried to hide his operation from Hank the more he exposed it! Gus hid by operating in plain sight being a member of the community as he was TOO big to stay hidden…
@@SuperJutah - I think that by the time he had the online schematics for the laundry’s industrial washing machine (i.e., the superlab’s concealed door), which didn’t correspond with its on-site photograph that Gomez almost casually snapped whilst walking by it in the two-man DEA inspection, Hank was basically going to get Fring now anyway even if Walt / Hector didn’t get him first in the ambush bombing. There was now too much suspicion coupled with actual hard evidence for suspicious activity centered on Lavandería Brillante . . .
the same way real Mexican cartels leaders basically are untouchable in real world. american laws dont apply to them and a fall guy is delivered once every so often as to satiate public backlash
I can even hear stressful breathing using earphone. Damn
Nacho needed RICIN
Funny enough had he just dropped a single ricin pill in Hector’s pill bottle, the rest of the pills would’ve been legitimate and Hector would’ve been out of the picture.
@@ososrm92Yup. Could’ve easily just slipped it in when he offered more espresso to Hector.
Jesse probably doing his homework rn talking about some “yo im not doing this bullshit yo”
I wish both of these guys survived and didn't die the way they did 😮💨
Mike knew Nacho was heading into dangerous waters
Mike searching for tracker in the gas cap is the smartest move until we know Old Joe did find LoJack in the weirdest spot like a tuesday.
Hector the hypocrite, constantly talked about the value of family but had no problem threatening the family members of others like Mike and Nacho
the value of HIS family.
Not at all. He knows the value of family and that's why he knows the threats are effective.
I don't mind hypocrisy; all criminals might have it. I point at Hector's stupidity. He recklessly picked Nacho's father, his employee's dear father, to be his partner in crime assuming the old man will be more than willing to. Not only got humiliated by the rejection, but Hector also indirectly created his biggest enemy which led to his downfall. Nacho, his employee.
I would have just swapped the pills with the same medication but with one nitro pill. He takes it sooner or later and no need to swap the pills back.
That would not work. Nitroglycerine dilates the blood vessels for cardiac trouble. The only way that Hector would die (or I guess in this case be crippled) was if he were taking nothing except sugar pills for a while.
I know this was writing after BB, but I wonder if Mike developed a soft spot for Jesse because he was unable to save Nacho who was also way in over his head but wasn't necessarily a bad person at heart. I actually kind of wonder at what point the writers began planning BCS.
Theirs was my favorite relationship in Better Call Saul.
Mike must be warning Nacho about Gus, albeit indirectly because he never mentioned Gus' name but he stated that the Salamancas are not the only threats to deal with in this scenario.
Mike and nacho did such a good job together
What did Mike ask from Nacho at the end? I forgot
The location of a civilian, killed by Hector, at the site of an ambush Mike made on one of his trucks. I think.
His name and date of birth if my memory serves me well
@@bobsacemento1125 That was not it, it was in this scene which happened earlier: th-cam.com/video/badlSlsilfg/w-d-xo.html
@@bobsacemento1125 You know my friend can get Russian hats for forty bucks? They're not sable, but the difference is negligible.
@@Bout_TreeFiddy So Mike asked Nacho how to buy a Russian hat for forty bucks? Weird.
Mike really liked Nacho. And Jessee
If Nacho knew that Mike was responsible for his father being at risk, he might deal with him differently.
Kid named finger warns nacho about the pill swap plan
What was the one more thing he needed?
The bols?
Mike just spoiling the end for Nacho. But how tight is the writing, this decision lead exactly to what Mike predicted. This was probably a throw away line for Mike but someone ran with it. If that's how it went down then it's similar to how Rogue One essentially came about.
Even without Gus there’s a lot of variables that he didn’t consider
I love how Nacho and Mike are talking about some of the most terrifying dangerous people out there while Pyrce is just sitting there like, who dafaq is Hector?
Basic presentation between two cool dudes:
-Always wear a jacket
-Keep your hand in your pockets
And at the end, only because he Switches them a 2nd time, gus finds out what he did
So the plan was cursed anyway😂
The "sky" is a TV
instead of replacing the pills with sugar pills wouldnt it make more sense to just make one of the pills an extremely powerful poison that cant be detected or makes it look like he had a heart attack? that way it becomes imposible to know the pills even did it because someone could assume that maybe his drink was poisoned or it was natural causes.
Guts meets Skull knight alternative version
Is this how Hector wound up in his chair? Had a stroke or something due to not getting his meds?
Idk if it was a stroke but yeah the meds fucked him up and thats why he had to use the chair. The Lalo eventually gave him the bell
This is the moment when Pryce becomes Squat Cobbler
I don't get it. What would have Nacho had to gain if Hector became pregnant?
Then Nacho's dad could adopt the baby, which would make him family and thus safe from Hector.
The hell are these comments
Bravo Vince!
Nacho could make extra cash for babysitting.
Actually lol’d
old mexican ways not forgotten
Just realized when he switch them back after Hector collapsed that's when Gus saw it. Mike made more harm to him than good.
Hector only using this business because Mike got his previous one caught.
Mike already knew Jesse’s drug of choice. Swap at his own what the.
These are the moments when I want to rewatch BCS again but then I remember that Chuck and his nonsense is a HUGE part of that show😬
You can skip to Season 3, which is when Gus and most of the cartel plot takes center stage. Most of the legal stuff with Chuck was the earlier seasons, it gets less focus from S3 onward.
@@drygnfyre Good call. I already re watched the whole BCS and BB ofcourse😬For the next run then
mike was right about nacho ending with a bullet in his head
Why dont only put one pill inside hector’s bottle? Then they dont even need to switch them back😂
People seem to be saying the fake pills aren't poison, they're just empty pills (sugar or sg) so he needs to take a lot of non pills for his health to deteriorate, not just the one
What is the "one more thing"?
1:41 "You don't think I know who I'm dealing with?" Referring to Hector
"No, I don't" Referring to Gus.
Awesome double meaning and writing.
It would be a lot easier if he hired the two best hitmen west of the Mississippi.
How come when Nacho later sees that Mike is working for Gus, he doesn’t suspect that Mike might’ve told Gus about the pill swap?
Hey that’s a good point, never thought about that
*_What was the "one more thing" he needed??_*_ I dont remember!?_
🧐🤔🤨🤷🏼
The place ehere the Good Samaritan was buried
To those that didn’t watch Better Call Saul: the “thing” he needs from Nacho is to take his pants down (except his underwear) and sit on a pie next to Pryce for a double pie sitting competition.
free the guys
Mike probably did this one for free.
Mike Ermantrout is a bad influence for geriatrics.
I really thought pryce was going to get whacked in the show because of this.
Pryce may be dumb but he consistently made the smartest choice of anyone in the series calling and trusting Mike.
What does mike mean at 3:11 ?
The Good Samaritan that Hector killed, mike wanted to know where he was buried to which he then later called the police and told them anonymously
@@magna5703ahhh thankyou
Mike literally foreshadowed Nachos death 😔
what was the one more thing he needed
I forget. Anyone?
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@@winterhaydn Was it the baseball cards that Nacho had stolen from Pryce's apartment?
@@Jehannum2000 - That might be it. I wish I remembered.
Late reply but it was to find out where they buried the body of that Samaritan that Hector killed (the civilian who found and helped Hector's truck driver from Mike's previous ambush).
Mike was his demise. Should not switch pills after wards
I don't remember this scene, anyone knows the episode?
I think it’s “ Expenses”
I wonder why Nacho had to go to the trouble of switching back after Hector had consumed it. What instead if Nacho had simply just put 1 bad pill in to the box of regular pills and put it back. At some point, Hector would have eventually consumed the 1 bad pill after which there is no more trace of the bad pills.
Hector needed to take more than one bad pill for the stroke to occur; it wasn't poison, it was a different medication that would increase the chance of a stroke over time. Therefore the pill bottle needed multiple switched pills.
It isn't poison, it's sugar pills. His idea was he takes enough sugar pills instead of real medicine, his health gets worse gradually instead of him just dying overnight.
When Mike said I'm going to need one more thing from you! He should have pulled down his pants
Haha. Reacher. Nice.
@@ksrmk😅😅😅😅YES!!!
He could have switched 1. Then he wouldn't have to switch it back. Eventually he woild grab for the one it wouldn't work and he would die. Gus wouldn't see him pick up the pills and wouldn't go after him.
He didnt turn the heart meds into instant death poison pills. He swapped them for sugar pills, effectively turning hector's meds into placebos. 1 missed pill wouldnt have done it. On top of that, if hector didnt get pissed off and start screaming, it still might have taken months for his heart to start acting up
Was he checking the gas tank for a bomb?
A tracking device
Watch the show
He's checking for a tracker. Because Mike was tracked this way in an earlier episode, and thus he knows to look for them.
shit i just realized he could have just switched ONE of the pills and it eventually would have worked without gus finding out
He could do that if time was on his side which he hasn't.
Since his dad refused to work for Hector, it was a matter of time the latter would kill him for that
The pills weren't poisonous, they were just fake ones so Hector's heart condition wasn't being kept in check.
@@revonfyll oh I know. But it seemed like he had a lot of these almost heart attack moments
@@KobaLenk oh shit. Valid point
@@BacklTrack yeah exactly, his health was already on the line, which is where Nacho got the idea from. Nacho thought that if Hector stopped taking his pills for a while, it was only a matter of time before he died of a heart attack. But Hector needed to be taking fake pills for a good while before that happened, missing just a single pill wouldn't really affect his health much. The pills don't really stop a heart attack, they only prevent it.
Very few people notice this but: at the end, Nacho asks Mike "are you going to let us do this deal?" Which is a sign of extreme respect.
It shows how much his view has changed of Mike vs when he came to his father's shop, and he called Mike an old man with a look on his face like he was ready to jump on him.
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Pryce absolutely ruined this show for me. I didn't watch past season one.
Your loss, if you bother to try again he isn’t in much and it’s worth watching all the way through.
...I don't see how a small supporting character ruined an entire show for you when there are other great characters. Pryce is just an amateur guy to the crime scene, not meant to be taken that seriously.
@@phanindravaibhav3319 it’s too on the nose. I was hoping for something a bit more serious and not comedic.
Hm.
Heaven is probably above the sky TV, that's why we can't see it.