the house shoes reference was a word in itself. sometimes we hold on to things because we are used to them, we are comfortable with them. we think that thing is good for us because they have been around for so long but that is because we’re blinded by comfort. applies to people too
In friendship I do struggle with how people really feel about me and if they like me for me which is why I’m so awkward and hold back in fear of revealing too much me 🫢 rejection and lack of confidence
Same and for me i dont feel seen because I'm afraid to show up as myself to avoid rejection and bc I'm not showing up authentically the "bond" that I have with people really isn't the true bond I desire. Protecting myself so much that its hurting relationships that could've been built on authenticity.
YALL... Every time I watch this couple I learn and expand my vocabulary. I love learning new words and strengthening my knowledge. God making us saints smart out here lol!
Not me avoiding this video for a week then getting smacked with most serious words of truth in the first 30 seconds...I knew I wasn't ready! The Perrys be Preaching lol
OMG! Me toooo‼️ The preview for this video popped up on my feed about a week ago and I have been avoiding it. That opener smacked me straight in my face❣😏🤣
Bro, I am so happy I'm not the only one! I've been avoiding this video for months, and it felt like the Holy Spirit just smacked me right in the face 😂.
Crazy thing is I just processed this exact topic with the Lord. And then I click onto TH-cam to see y'all posted this video 59 minutes ago. LOL thank you Lord.
I really needed this. The spirit of rejection caused me to (unwittingly) choose friends that were going to reject or abandon me. It left me so hurt that I didn’t want friends at all anymore nor did I even believe it was possible to have real friends, and it was to the point where I couldn’t even pray about it. Now Im realizing I really need to just seek the Lord with all new people that come into my life and pray for wisdom and discernment with everyone, allowing HIM to be the one to choose instead of me just choosing whoever “seems” cool.
The thing you said about therapy and also needing to focus on worship and sanctification is why I love biblical counseling. You learn about yourself and you also learn about God and how to heal through Him.
36:14 Made me tear up.🥺 Deep analyzer of human behavior here!! Everybody doesnt get that its not by choice, but its by design; And we have to WORK to let others in or WORK to at least be ok to experience ppl for a moment of friendship even if its not meant to be for a long time. Preston saying that really was a shot to the heart bc its where I am now with socializing. Preston just upset me and my homegirls😂
Man oh man, I love listening to this podcast. A lot of times, what Jackie says goes right over my head and when she says, “Does that make sense?” I say out loud, “Absolutely not 😂” but Preston comes in and reiterates what she said and I’m like…..oooohhhh now I get it 😂. Jokes aside, we need more Godly conversations around this topic.
I spend a massive amount of time protecting myself from potential hurt…from so many different angles. Just the idea of not doing that and just trusting God for my protection scares me to my core but that’s what faith and trust in God looks like. Thank you Perry’s for opening my eyes. It’s not going to be easy but it’s necessary work.
I truly appreciate your delivery. You allow the word to speak. There are too many with a ‘platform’ who believes that speaking the truth, according to God’s word, requires believers to use the word as an assault weapon. Thank you for your transparency, vulnerability, and willingness to use Godly wisdom. Many blessings ❤.
Yes!!! Or when she throws a book at him cause he's talking GOOD, and so spirit filled.😂😂😂 Prime example: The episode talking about relationships and Kevin Samuels, with Ezekiel Azonwu. Lol
Thank you touching on how men are traumatized by their male leadership in ministry & women he began to fall into this feminist- diva mindset. My husband was one of those men that experienced this years before meeting me. Your word as a brother was so on time, edifying & bought hope for his complete healing & restoration from this. Thank you Lord!
“What if that analytical mind, thought about God more than anything” 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Girllllllllllllllllll, a whole word for me! Praise Jesus 🙏🏽💗💗💗 Glory be to God❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
This is EXACTLY WHAT I’ve been talking to the Lord about, being kind to people, the being hurt when they turn out to be the opposite of what I expected etc. God has definitely been teaching me to still be kind and continue to set healthy boundaries! When you see others with ill intention the kindly walking away works,God bless you. Building friendships that’s God ordained! Amen 🙏
Yes!!!! The Lord spoke to me last year, and encouraged me to come out of isolation and seek community amongst believers. I am so blessed to have immediately experienced a wonderful community of Godly ladies in February, by being in a small group. I absolutely love and cherish my Godly lady friends. 😊
10 years of marriage and Jackie still blushing 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 I love you two allow me to point out your growth as individuals and as a couple. Thank you so much for sharing your life with us.
No seriously, there really is something going on with friends falling away from the lord. I pray about this everyday. I like to be observant because I know everybody don’t have good agendas. Sometimes god will bring you to a season to where you’re supposed to be alone…that’s our time to really lean into him🙏💜
That's so true! My prayer has been that God will use my friendship to bring them back to Him, and if that's not His will, to instruct me how and when to pull away! It's ROUGH out here!
My trust is so bad with people that even ones I consider associates especially clingy ones I get agitated before even reading their texts or seeing exactly what they’re reaching out about Sometimes I feel bad because it’s not even as deep as I make it when I find out what their reaching out about and once I evaluate I realize because I’ve been in positions where I’ve over extended myself and for most people they took advantage of that so now I feel everyone wants something from me all the time even though that’s not always their intentions and I’m not gonna dive into where my trusts is with men and the pain/trauma I’ve experienced from my choices in the relationship and theirs! Some trauma is self inflicted which can be just as worse Thank you Perry’s for this transparent convo and not only talking about it but helping people come to solution if they choose❤🙏🏾
one thing i learned about myself being in deliverance of codependency is that I talk alot because I need to feel heard and understood and that I depend on my strength of spiritual awareness, the only time i can be fully quiet is when someone is speaking an awesome word that edifies me but when they aren't I tend to cut them off alot with childlike outburst, i get anxious or excited and can never let them finish their thought. God has definitely been showing me myself through other people.
After decades of crying, fighting, and cursing my own mind , it wasn't until I began to submit to God fully and faithfully, that, I too, realized my very busy mind is truly a gift from our Father God. It has been an incredible blessing to love that part of me again, even during the hard times.
@@heliTg I pray this season you are in will soon pass. Like many, I used to lean on my autism and curse my brain. It wasn't until I gave myself fully to God, read His word and, truly began to know who Jesus is, that I began to lean on Him. Once I was able to do that (because it isn't easy) was I able to recognize that this busy mind of mine is a true gift and, I thank God every day for it now. I pray the same for you and with Him at your side, you will be free. See yourself as He sees you and love yourself as He loves you and, know you are worthy. Blessings to you.
It is so amazing how The Loving FATHER confirms publicly what HE has said to me privately. Just this morning HE told me to trust HIM about this exact thing. AMAZING GOD!!! I just love HIM!♥️♥️♥️
That will be a new prayer to entrust relationships to Him. I am finding my relationships very unfulfilling and there are clearly ways I need to be stretched but also trust His goodness for right connections.
How am I already half way through this episode and dreading for the end of it to come :( Preston and Jackie, please make your podcast episodes longer. This is good stuff and I don't want it to end!!!!! God bless you!
OH my goodness, this is talking straight to my heart. I understand Jackie sooo much in the incessant thinking and the self loathing, and needing to just trust God to protect us, instead of using fear as a shield
“I might have better relationships but my relationship with The Lord is not substantial…” That Part! And there it is. Because at the end of our lives, all that is really going to matter is our relationship with TMH and Living G-d. 👏🏽
My mind is a lot like Jackie's..highly analytical, highly philosophical (considered becoming a philosophy major in college) quickly calculating and overthinking. That part about setting my analytical mind on God..wow. I have to tell myself, bro, just relax lol. The only person i can control is myself and i should focus more on serving others and not defending and "protecting" myself. And also thankfulness and looking at the friends i DO have. I have like six friends who have walked with me through some tough stuff.
"How dare you say such a thing. Are you saying that we should be free?" Haha! Jackie, I could understand and relate completely to what you were saying. Your testimony and the blood of the Lamb is helping people overcome the lies the enemy told them about how they can trust themselves more than God in the areas of relationships. I definitely felt that. So, thank you both for this conversation and perspective. God bless your ministry.
A conversation we ALL needed, because we ALL need people! God designed us to be in relationships with others in this fallen world and we must learn how to navigate according to God’s will and plan! 🙌🏽 So good!
Phew! I’m on this table yall are shaking. This was meant for me. I was also bullied as a child so I’m super vigilant around people and I always need to know who is safe.
I'm so scared and excited at the same time to listen to this !! Chile I KNOW I need to hear this. Interested also if they will touch on boundaries and guarding your heart too, sometimes your observations are God speaking through you and to you by giving you discernment that says, "nahh, get away from them."
They did sis towards the end! Don’t be scared…Watch it ! 😂 I low key was too because I knew it was coming for me but that’s apart of the humility that we should seek it takes for relatable and transparent convos like this to get us to open up, see things about ourselves and others to make us become more aware and better in the end! Hope you enjoy it as much as I did ❤
I so so needed this! I’ve been praying to the Lord to reveal things to me that I wasn’t aware of that needed surrendering to Him. And Oooffff, he REVEALED some things 😅 it made me realize that I need to go back to therapy. But before I do that. I gave it to God. And had an honest conversation with him.
I wasn’t going to say anything this time, until I watched “One Flesh” and “The Fall” for the first time. I don’t pretend to know how repentance became a reality for you both, but thank you for your obedience.
“To love at all is to be vulnerable. Love anything and your heart will be wrung and possibly broken. If you want to make sure of keeping it intact you must give it to no one, not even an animal. Wrap it carefully round with hobbies and little luxuries; avoid all entanglements. Lock it up safe in the casket or coffin of your selfishness. But in that casket, safe, dark, motionless, airless, it will change. It will not be broken; it will become unbreakable, impenetrable, irredeemable. To love is to be vulnerable.”- C.S. Lewis
About the house shoes “It’s just something you’re use to. So you’re think that they’re comfortable but they’re not”. I heard that slick word, Jackie!!!! 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
This podcast really helped me! I stay away from people due to friendship trauma. I always think people want to be around me for my gifts! I will pray that God tells me who to befriend and lower my wall of protection.
Oooh 😯 y’all came for me on this one… I know it was 4 months ago but daaang, the constant thinking and analyzing everything. “What if the thinking was mostly about God?” Ya got me ❤
This is very insightful y’all. I noticed myself going through these types of situations for a few years now. You’re right, since Covid. Crazy how Covid made everyone scatter and we started connecting with people in a different way. People became more guarded and polarized. Thanks for this episode. ❤
This is a timely, what? MESSAGE🗣🗣🗣 nahhh this WHOLE conversation is lit-er-rally EVERYTHING I have been going through and processing with The Lord in my quiet time with Him, over the past year and a half. All the topics you both touched upon, HIT b2b. Thank you Lord for the anointing on The Perrys.
Thiiiiis!!! Both of yall said some powerful stuff. Preston one thing you said I'm chewing on bro. The part you said about embracing suffering with other fallen human beings. My goodness. So so true. We all are fallen and in need of CHRIST. Which means we all will be bringing some form of baggage in our friendships.
This is INSANE to me. I've had a lot of trauma, and let me tell you this night I felt all the unsafety coming back. And I was just sick to my stomach from all the people I've misread, or let in that now feel so unsafe. But at the time they felt safe enough for me. This is crazy crazy crazy accurate. I was beating myself up over it also. Wow God is amazing
This confirmation what God told me that exact thing about myself… I struggle with trusting.. I have that same issue using my discernment with people and God told me I’m leaning on my own understanding and deciding of how I’m going to show up depending on people’s actions instead of just being me .. there is no way of being safe and avoiding getting hurt
Man, me and Jackie have so much in common it's crazy... my level of awareness brings me to God, and his word quickens me or prunes me, and I learned to willing stay in His presence to experience what greater work He wants to do in my life. Father, you are worthy of it all❤
Listen ! Linda ! All last week I been feeling a heavy feeling of God saying I need your “full surrender” just to see Megan title is called just that then on top of that this whole week I been praying on my trauma with a certain friendship we agreed to let go of it and I been feeling such a peace and able to fully forgive. Neither was at fault the friendship no longer compatible the more we heal. Thank y’all for obedience ❤️
Thank you for this episode! I feel like it was meant for me for sure. I've had friendship trauma which started back in 2019 going into 2020. when the pandemic hit and throughout the years been a struggle to keep a friend. God has been my rock in these years and helped me heal those traumas. It's still a journey but i've come a long way!
Literally me and Jackie are very much aligned in our gift of seeing through the world’s facades. That it creates a “wise” barrier that very often paralyzes us in fear to give or to receive love. Because the one thing that enemy is good at is lying and that’s something I loath. It really comes down to not thinking so highly of the gift that God has given me and focusing more on the giver. Which is ANOTHER layer of trust and humility that I need to give through self sacrifice. Which brings me back to I’m afraid lol. BUT SANCTIFICATION IS A WORK OF A LIFE TIME AND JESUS WILL NEVER LEAVE US ! PERIODDDDDDT lol
I love this, there's so much to say, but how Jackie ended this was powerful. I've never prayed that God shows me who to be Friends with. Request prayer that God with surround me with people and love ones who loves Christ and truly here to elevate, Care, and support me and vice versa. I have no friends yall lol but know God is the Friend of All Friends, but I still would like just a few GODLY FRIENDS. AMEN 🙏🏽
I love watching your podcast because y’all both are different but and so good because instead of agreeing with each other you help build each other and see if in a different perspective and it has help me a lot to acknowledge my wrongs And how I want to be a better friend as we are looking for that friend Lord help me be that too
Lord, you reveal to me who I should journey with, who I should cut off, who I should just be hanging out with from time to time, where do I pour God! Reveal to me it all. I completely entrust my social circle to you, God! That was a word!
When he said, “Embrace the suffering of living with other fallen human beings”
He preached a whole sermon with that one! Powerful stuff
Right! 🙌🏾
I was like WHAT
I'm still tryna wrap my head around this line let alone the principle....like Jackie said, I don't like it
Yoh!!!
the house shoes reference was a word in itself. sometimes we hold on to things because we are used to them, we are comfortable with them. we think that thing is good for us because they have been around for so long but that is because we’re blinded by comfort. applies to people too
I was thinking the same -kind of thought they'd use it as a Segway into the topic lol.
RIGHT!!!!!! 👏🏾
“Even stuff being revealed to you, is a mercy from God” SHEESH.
In friendship I do struggle with how people really feel about me and if they like me for me which is why I’m so awkward and hold back in fear of revealing too much me 🫢 rejection and lack of confidence
You're not alone, sis! I struggle with the same thing! God will heal and sanctify us both!
Me too
Same and for me i dont feel seen because I'm afraid to show up as myself to avoid rejection and bc I'm not showing up authentically the "bond" that I have with people really isn't the true bond I desire. Protecting myself so much that its hurting relationships that could've been built on authenticity.
Sameeeeee
I truly suffer with this. I literally got real honest with God about this, this morning and clicked on this… 🤯🤯🤯
“You become so introspective you actually loath yourself” too real
Yep that's me, when I really just need to chill lol. And certain churches that are always like "sin, sin, sin," do not help lol
@@Deanna974 no for real 😂
@@Deanna974ikr i’m out here trying to perfectionize myself. and for what 😑
@@Deanna974me. This is sooooooooooo me.
🙋🏾♀️🙋🏾♀️🙋🏾♀️🙋🏾♀️🙋🏾♀️🙋🏾♀️
YALL... Every time I watch this couple I learn and expand my vocabulary. I love learning new words and strengthening my knowledge. God making us saints smart out here lol!
Same! I've never used the word "antithetical"....but I am about to LOL
Right we’re gonna be some Christ saving geniuses by the end of it all 😂😂😂
Same here!!!😂
Not me avoiding this video for a week then getting smacked with most serious words of truth in the first 30 seconds...I knew I wasn't ready! The Perrys be Preaching lol
OMG! Me toooo‼️ The preview for this video popped up on my feed about a week ago and I have been avoiding it. That opener smacked me straight in my face❣😏🤣
Bro, I am so happy I'm not the only one! I've been avoiding this video for months, and it felt like the Holy Spirit just smacked me right in the face 😂.
Crazy thing is I just processed this exact topic with the Lord. And then I click onto TH-cam to see y'all posted this video 59 minutes ago. LOL thank you Lord.
I was processing this like two weeks ago and couldn’t quite fully process it or explain it and boom there go the Lord doing his thing!! I love Jesus
Me too ❤
God is Goooood yall!!
GOD IS GOOD YALL!!!
That's confirmation Right?!!!😮❤
I really needed this. The spirit of rejection caused me to (unwittingly) choose friends that were going to reject or abandon me. It left me so hurt that I didn’t want friends at all anymore nor did I even believe it was possible to have real friends, and it was to the point where I couldn’t even pray about it. Now Im realizing I really need to just seek the Lord with all new people that come into my life and pray for wisdom and discernment with everyone, allowing HIM to be the one to choose instead of me just choosing whoever “seems” cool.
The thing you said about therapy and also needing to focus on worship and sanctification is why I love biblical counseling. You learn about yourself and you also learn about God and how to heal through Him.
I really need to look into a Bible centered counselor / therapist
@@andreajackson9906 I actually just graduated with my master's in biblical counseling and am taking on new counselees😁
36:14 Made me tear up.🥺
Deep analyzer of human behavior here!! Everybody doesnt get that its not by choice, but its by design; And we have to WORK to let others in or WORK to at least be ok to experience ppl for a moment of friendship even if its not meant to be for a long time.
Preston saying that really was a shot to the heart bc its where I am now with socializing.
Preston just upset me and my homegirls😂
This is the most intelligent, spirit-filled, Christ centered podcast in the WORLD,,,PERIODTT!
pe-re-iodt!
Amen
I never want your episodes to end. You guys bless me so much and I’m eternally grateful to God to have found you. Thank you for allowing God use you.
Man oh man, I love listening to this podcast. A lot of times, what Jackie says goes right over my head and when she says, “Does that make sense?” I say out loud, “Absolutely not 😂” but Preston comes in and reiterates what she said and I’m like…..oooohhhh now I get it 😂.
Jokes aside, we need more Godly conversations around this topic.
I feel the same, but opposite. I always understand Jackie, but a bit confused with Preston. 😂
Love them both though!! ❤
@@e.jackson9443 😂😂😂….They are awesome!
I'm the opposite. I understand Jackie more
I spend a massive amount of time protecting myself from potential hurt…from so many different angles. Just the idea of not doing that and just trusting God for my protection scares me to my core but that’s what faith and trust in God looks like. Thank you Perry’s for opening my eyes. It’s not going to be easy but it’s necessary work.
I truly appreciate your delivery. You allow the word to speak. There are too many with a ‘platform’ who believes that speaking the truth, according to God’s word, requires believers to use the word as an assault weapon. Thank you for your transparency, vulnerability, and willingness to use Godly wisdom. Many blessings ❤.
Also, I love when Jackie gets happy when Preston is speaking and she get the holy hands out with the random speaking in tongues🤣
Yes!!! Or when she throws a book at him cause he's talking GOOD, and so spirit filled.😂😂😂
Prime example: The episode talking about relationships and Kevin Samuels, with Ezekiel Azonwu. Lol
Yesssss
I encourage y'all to research more about speaking in tongues according to scripture. Jackie doesn't speak in tongues according to scripture.
Thank you touching on how men are traumatized by their male leadership in ministry & women he began to fall into this feminist- diva mindset. My husband was one of those men that experienced this years before meeting me. Your word as a brother was so on time, edifying & bought hope for his complete healing & restoration from this. Thank you Lord!
“What if that analytical mind, thought about God more than anything” 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Girllllllllllllllllll, a whole word for me! Praise Jesus 🙏🏽💗💗💗 Glory be to God❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
This is EXACTLY WHAT I’ve been talking to the Lord about, being kind to people, the being hurt when they turn out to be the opposite of what I expected etc. God has definitely been teaching me to still be kind and continue to set healthy boundaries! When you see others with ill intention the kindly walking away works,God bless you. Building friendships that’s God ordained! Amen 🙏
34:10."Not to despise how the Lord has made me to think but to submit and surrender the way the Lord has made me think" ❤
I wrote this down as well 🙌🏾
Yes!!!! The Lord spoke to me last year, and encouraged me to come out of isolation and seek community amongst believers.
I am so blessed to have immediately experienced a wonderful community of Godly ladies in February, by being in a small group.
I absolutely love and cherish my Godly lady friends. 😊
Happy for you! 🤗
@@KintaDienguele Thank you
10 years of marriage and Jackie still blushing 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 I love you two allow me to point out your growth as individuals and as a couple. Thank you so much for sharing your life with us.
No seriously, there really is something going on with friends falling away from the lord. I pray about this everyday. I like to be observant because I know everybody don’t have good agendas. Sometimes god will bring you to a season to where you’re supposed to be alone…that’s our time to really lean into him🙏💜
That's so true! My prayer has been that God will use my friendship to bring them back to Him, and if that's not His will, to instruct me how and when to pull away! It's ROUGH out here!
“I’ve bonded with these shoes” 😂 Preston cracks me up!!
And how Jackie responds to him is even more hilarious!
The gum…. I can’t 🤣🤣🤣🤣
My trust is so bad with people that even ones I consider associates especially clingy ones I get agitated before even reading their texts or seeing exactly what they’re reaching out about Sometimes I feel bad because it’s not even as deep as I make it when I find out what their reaching out about and once I evaluate I realize because I’ve been in positions where I’ve over extended myself and for most people they took advantage of that so now I feel everyone wants something from me all the time even though that’s not always their intentions and I’m not gonna dive into where my trusts is with men and the pain/trauma I’ve experienced from my choices in the relationship and theirs! Some trauma is self inflicted which can be just as worse Thank you Perry’s for this transparent convo and not only talking about it but helping people come to solution if they choose❤🙏🏾
Thanks again guys for reminding me God will only grow me when I am uncomfortable
one thing i learned about myself being in deliverance of codependency is that I talk alot because I need to feel heard and understood and that I depend on my strength of spiritual awareness, the only time i can be fully quiet is when someone is speaking an awesome word that edifies me but when they aren't I tend to cut them off alot with childlike outburst, i get anxious or excited and can never let them finish their thought. God has definitely been showing me myself through other people.
After decades of crying, fighting, and cursing my own mind , it wasn't until I began to submit to God fully and faithfully, that, I too, realized my very busy mind is truly a gift from our Father God. It has been an incredible blessing to love that part of me again, even during the hard times.
I'm in a place rn where its hard to accept this truth about myself. May His everlasting mercy be my refuge to accept & love my busy mind
@@heliTg I pray this season you are in will soon pass. Like many, I used to lean on my autism and curse my brain. It wasn't until I gave myself fully to God, read His word and, truly began to know who Jesus is, that I began to lean on Him. Once I was able to do that (because it isn't easy) was I able to recognize that this busy mind of mine is a true gift and, I thank God every day for it now. I pray the same for you and with Him at your side, you will be free. See yourself as He sees you and love yourself as He loves you and, know you are worthy. Blessings to you.
It is so amazing how The Loving FATHER confirms publicly what HE has said to me privately. Just this morning HE told me to trust HIM about this exact thing. AMAZING GOD!!! I just love HIM!♥️♥️♥️
That will be a new prayer to entrust relationships to Him. I am finding my relationships very unfulfilling and there are clearly ways I need to be stretched but also trust His goodness for right connections.
How am I already half way through this episode and dreading for the end of it to come :( Preston and Jackie, please make your podcast episodes longer. This is good stuff and I don't want it to end!!!!! God bless you!
OH my goodness, this is talking straight to my heart. I understand Jackie sooo much in the incessant thinking and the self loathing, and needing to just trust God to protect us, instead of using fear as a shield
Lawwwwwwwdddd, y'all be coming for my whole life. Lawd have mercy.
Right lol
Forreals
Help lord😂
Okaaaaaaay!!😅
Chile I was read right at the half way mark
I’m a simple gal…I see a Perry Podcast and I click that like button before it even begins💅
“I might have better relationships but my relationship with The Lord is not substantial…” That Part!
And there it is. Because at the end of our lives, all that is really going to matter is our relationship with TMH and Living G-d. 👏🏽
It’s always hilarious when Jackie asks “does it make sense” …. Girl! You know be speaking facts. Now keep going so I can keep taking these notes 🤭🤭🤭
I need you guys to start posting twice a week
They got 8 kids, 13 books & a tour Leslie 😭
I know 😔 they’re just THAT good. Wish them blessings after blessings
@@WilliamsPinch😂😂😂😂😂
1900 books😂
no fr... and yes we want both vids to be 45minutes lol!!!!!
My mind is a lot like Jackie's..highly analytical, highly philosophical (considered becoming a philosophy major in college) quickly calculating and overthinking. That part about setting my analytical mind on God..wow.
I have to tell myself, bro, just relax lol. The only person i can control is myself and i should focus more on serving others and not defending and "protecting" myself.
And also thankfulness and looking at the friends i DO have. I have like six friends who have walked with me through some tough stuff.
Preston is so wise.
"How dare you say such a thing. Are you saying that we should be free?" Haha! Jackie, I could understand and relate completely to what you were saying. Your testimony and the blood of the Lamb is helping people overcome the lies the enemy told them about how they can trust themselves more than God in the areas of relationships. I definitely felt that. So, thank you both for this conversation and perspective. God bless your ministry.
A conversation we ALL needed, because we ALL need people! God designed us to be in relationships with others in this fallen world and we must learn how to navigate according to God’s will and plan! 🙌🏽 So good!
Phew! I’m on this table yall are shaking. This was meant for me.
I was also bullied as a child so I’m super vigilant around people and I always need to know who is safe.
I'm so scared and excited at the same time to listen to this !! Chile I KNOW I need to hear this.
Interested also if they will touch on boundaries and guarding your heart too, sometimes your observations are God speaking through you and to you by giving you discernment that says, "nahh, get away from them."
They did sis towards the end! Don’t be scared…Watch it ! 😂 I low key was too because I knew it was coming for me but that’s apart of the humility that we should seek it takes for relatable and transparent convos like this to get us to open up, see things about ourselves and others to make us become more aware and better in the end! Hope you enjoy it as much as I did ❤
This topic though 🫣😬🫣😬🫣 Seriously prophetic ‼️
I so so needed this! I’ve been praying to the Lord to reveal things to me that I wasn’t aware of that needed surrendering to Him. And Oooffff, he REVEALED some things 😅 it made me realize that I need to go back to therapy. But before I do that. I gave it to God. And had an honest conversation with him.
Whoa! Not even a minute in. I have a friend and I asked her something and I know she lied to me. I'm now praying
You haven’t got this difficulty on your own Jackie …the perceiving eye and busy mind. God is faithful.
From the opening clip, Colossians 3:13 came to mind when Preston talked about God calling us to be in a community with people who are not perfect.
This union is so powerful, God knew what He was doing when He put you two together 🤍🫶🏽 Praise God
I wasn’t going to say anything this time, until I watched “One Flesh” and “The Fall” for the first time. I don’t pretend to know how repentance became a reality for you both, but thank you for your obedience.
Don’t stop the “it’s the saints and the ain’ts” song, please. 😭😭😭 cause some of us really like it and actually sing along to it. 🥲
I love listening to you discuss thr truth and have fun while you do it! God bless you and keep you close the Him. ❤🎉
“To love at all is to be vulnerable. Love anything and your heart will be wrung and possibly broken. If you want to make sure of keeping it intact you must give it to no one, not even an animal. Wrap it carefully round with hobbies and little luxuries; avoid all entanglements. Lock it up safe in the casket or coffin of your selfishness. But in that casket, safe, dark, motionless, airless, it will change. It will not be broken; it will become unbreakable, impenetrable, irredeemable. To love is to be vulnerable.”- C.S. Lewis
Haven’t even heard this whole thing yet but the title and the intro had me. Thanking you in advance for this conversation!
Was low-key expecting Jackie to start with hello saints and aints 😂😂
Jackie's so funny. 😂😂😂 I love it. "Are you saying we are just supposed to be free?"😭🤣💀
Praise God for such a spirit filled conversation! Thank you both for sharing!
About the house shoes “It’s just something you’re use to. So you’re think that they’re comfortable but they’re not”. I heard that slick word, Jackie!!!! 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
"how dare you say such a thing?" Jackie felt that one 😂😂😂😂
As someone whose personality is similar with Jackie's, I felt it too 🙄
I really enjoyed myself at the podcast tour in Dallas this past Monday……. You two are amazing people and hilarious as well!!!!
"If you judge people you have no time to love them ." Mother Teresa
Do you believe that statement to be true?
This podcast really helped me! I stay away from people due to friendship trauma. I always think people want to be around me for my gifts! I will pray that God tells me who to befriend and lower my wall of protection.
You guys are soo precious. We thank God for you 🙏🏽 In Christ Jesus
Oooh 😯 y’all came for me on this one… I know it was 4 months ago but daaang, the constant thinking and analyzing everything. “What if the thinking was mostly about God?” Ya got me ❤
This is very insightful y’all. I noticed myself going through these types of situations for a few years now. You’re right, since Covid. Crazy how Covid made everyone scatter and we started connecting with people in a different way. People became more guarded and polarized. Thanks for this episode. ❤
I love you both and your family. Thank you for listening to the voice of God 🙏🏼❤ and following his purposes and plans for you lives..
This is a timely, what? MESSAGE🗣🗣🗣 nahhh this WHOLE conversation is lit-er-rally EVERYTHING I have been going through and processing with The Lord in my quiet time with Him, over the past year and a half. All the topics you both touched upon, HIT b2b. Thank you Lord for the anointing on The Perrys.
Even the last part of surrendering making friends was so real.
Thiiiiis!!! Both of yall said some powerful stuff. Preston one thing you said I'm chewing on bro. The part you said about embracing suffering with other fallen human beings. My goodness. So so true. We all are fallen and in need of CHRIST. Which means we all will be bringing some form of baggage in our friendships.
Oh my goodness…I’m clutching my pearls with sis Jackie!!!
I love how both of you talk about life and the Word. Blessings💚💚
This is INSANE to me. I've had a lot of trauma, and let me tell you this night I felt all the unsafety coming back. And I was just sick to my stomach from all the people I've misread, or let in that now feel so unsafe. But at the time they felt safe enough for me. This is crazy crazy crazy accurate. I was beating myself up over it also. Wow God is amazing
This confirmation what God told me that exact thing about myself… I struggle with trusting.. I have that same issue using my discernment with people and God told me I’m leaning on my own understanding and deciding of how I’m going to show up depending on people’s actions instead of just being me .. there is no way of being safe and avoiding getting hurt
The wisdom here can only have come from The LORD!
GOD bless you!
Amen I'm gonna entrust my social circle to the Lord
I can definitely relate to Jackie. I love what she said at the end. We put it in God’s hands. Whoever should be in our lives ❤️🩹🙏🏼
Man, me and Jackie have so much in common it's crazy... my level of awareness brings me to God, and his word quickens me or prunes me, and I learned to willing stay in His presence to experience what greater work He wants to do in my life. Father, you are worthy of it all❤
Jackie is so funny. Self-preservation. I love ur transparency.
Listening to this one multiple times because I want these truths to stick. So beautifully worded, thank you
Listen ! Linda ! All last week I been feeling a heavy feeling of God saying I need your “full surrender” just to see Megan title is called just that then on top of that this whole week I been praying on my trauma with a certain friendship we agreed to let go of it and I been feeling such a peace and able to fully forgive. Neither was at fault the friendship no longer compatible the more we heal.
Thank y’all for obedience ❤️
Preston done preached a whole sermon. 🙌🏾
This message right here!!!! Blessing! Period!!
Thank you for this episode! I feel like it was meant for me for sure. I've had friendship trauma which started back in 2019 going into 2020. when the pandemic hit and throughout the years been a struggle to keep a friend. God has been my rock in these years and helped me heal those traumas. It's still a journey but i've come a long way!
Literally me and Jackie are very much aligned in our gift of seeing through the world’s facades. That it creates a “wise” barrier that very often paralyzes us in fear to give or to receive love. Because the one thing that enemy is good at is lying and that’s something I loath. It really comes down to not thinking so highly of the gift that God has given me and focusing more on the giver. Which is ANOTHER layer of trust and humility that I need to give through self sacrifice. Which brings me back to I’m afraid lol. BUT SANCTIFICATION IS A WORK OF A LIFE TIME AND JESUS WILL NEVER LEAVE US ! PERIODDDDDDT lol
THANK YOU for explaining the benefit of therapy! It may be sin, but there are things in between it and repentance to deal with!
Everything that Mrs.Jackie said at the end was exactly the words I needed to hear today.
Thank you Two for this. This is exactly how I feel and what I am going through. I did not want to trust anyone right now but God.
I really enjoy Preston and he redirects back to scripture continually no matter what 😊 blessings Perry family ❤
I love this, there's so much to say, but how Jackie ended this was powerful. I've never prayed that God shows me who to be Friends with. Request prayer that God with surround me with people and love ones who loves Christ and truly here to elevate, Care, and support me and vice versa. I have no friends yall lol but know God is the Friend of All Friends, but I still would like just a few GODLY FRIENDS. AMEN 🙏🏽
This conversation is soooo needed! 20:41
Knowing that you serve a God that knows your heart. Woooooo
It's all about observing and discernment.
The level of healing this is giving me
This is emotional intelligence and I love it!!
I love watching your podcast because y’all both are different but and so good because instead of agreeing with each other you help build each other and see if in a different perspective and it has help me a lot to acknowledge my wrongs
And how I want to be a better friend as we are looking for that friend Lord help me be that too
I am EXACTLY like Jackie so I completely understood and learnt a lot from this .. 🎉
What a gift yall are!
Lord, you reveal to me who I should journey with, who I should cut off, who I should just be hanging out with from time to time, where do I pour God! Reveal to me it all. I completely entrust my social circle to you, God! That was a word!
Thank y’all for advocating for therapy in the kingdom instead of villainizing people for seeking it out