Hey Everyone! Come check out my latest Tesla Turbine updates on the 10in diameter, 75disc aluminum and plastic prototype drive turbine dyno, 3.75horsepower and 6.22ft-lbs of torque to the shaft at only 4150rpm with a 150psi room temp compressed air supply from a regular piston compressor for now. I’m gearing it UP AT 1:3.6 to dual BLDC gens with a Kv rating of 2200rpm/volt. So for every 611 RPMs on the turbine the generators output 1volt. Tesla Turbine Generators With Usable Power and Torque th-cam.com/play/PL4XBGjR8Gu-Emu1QRPIwATKFuCZabqOh1.html Tesla Turbine Dyno Horsepower And Torque Outputs! + 300mph 3.75hp 6.22 ft-lbs 4150rpm th-cam.com/users/shortsZxy8mIVG6as?feature=share 1200watt continuous electrical load output with room temp compressed air all the way down to 65 psi too and with the turbine only at about 6700rpm. th-cam.com/video/BHPAQF8QNnw/w-d-xo.html This is a look through of the 10in disc stack of 75 discs, +10,000in^2 th-cam.com/users/shortsFU2LMZQ2_yA?feature=share These are the latest liquid fuel burner tests for the replication of GB 186,083. th-cam.com/video/gRqKowignac/w-d-xo.html These are the latest propane burner tests. Tesla Turbine Jet Engine Combustion System GB 186,083 Superheated Steam th-cam.com/video/KCyyiKnIarc/w-d-xo.html I haven’t gotten to my Tesla disc compressor tests finalized just yet but I have the setup to do them already just gotta do some upgrades to my bearing and gear hubs for the generators. 10in Tesla Compressor & Turbine w/ Built In Balancing Apparatus RC Car Dual 6s 3kW 2200kv BLDC Motor th-cam.com/video/fCQn7Q0rroI/w-d-xo.html
❤️ 🙏 thank you Raj! It’s been an honor just to be able to replicate Tesla’s works because people like you and everyone else on my patreon that have literally paved this path for us. I’m forever grateful for what you all do for me 🙏🙏🙏 thank you, raj. Thank you, thank you thank you. I don’t know if I can ever say it enough.
@@evandunn7403 ultimately I will be using my Tesla pump/compressor multi-fluid vortex mixer idea for EXTREME air fuel mixing, atomizing/aerosolization, AND compression. Check it out Tesla Compressor Multi-fluid Vortex Mixer & Steam Condenser - Air + Fuel Mixer Carburetor Atomizer th-cam.com/video/qLBqbBPikcc/w-d-xo.html I also have plans for it as a second stage pump steam condenser working in conjunction with my interstage heat exchanger idea of mine too. Tesla Turbine - InterStage Heat Exchanger (ISHE) - Heat Pump & Inverted Brayton Cycle & Improvements th-cam.com/video/pYSniitC8DM/w-d-xo.html
@@CharlieSolis this is where I had to get into talcum powder coal it was rough basically had to venture blow with pressurized air from huge intake fans into a tornado boiler. You may need to have a option for vertical positions so you can remove gravity from the nozzle deflection. I found a 63 to 80 deg x axis injection angle and 45 fixed degree z axis is ideal depending on the rate of burn and injection fuel mixture.
Pressurizing liquid fuel with air is...a bit sketchy. Generally in the oil industry nitrogen is used. you could use a fuel pump, but maybe that's adding trouble you don't want to deal with, you could use a weight, or a spring. Thinking outside the box, if you had the fuel in a flexible bladder and put it in a sealed water tank, you could pressurize the water tank which would squeeze the fuel bladder, you wouldn't need to worry about having a supply of inert gas, and leaks would only be a minor annoyance, as well you pressurizing and depressurizing it is relatively safe. It would be relatively easy to scale up as well.
All good ideas. I dabbled around with a few of them myself. There’s a bunch of ways to skin this cat. The bladder idea was what I wanted but the whole “making a gasoline proof bladder tank” was less than ideal at the moment.
If you are just pressurising you fuel tank with air and your fuel pickup is below your fuel level you should only get liquid fuel up until you run out off fuel then you have a fuel air mix. And if you don't have a positive valve you could get a blowback up your delivery tube. As I am using 12v fuel injector I have not had a problem.
Flashback arrester solves all of these issues with the back pressure spikes. While, I’m sure all of us here are all well aware of how they work, this animation is still 🔥🔥🔥🔥 AF th-cam.com/video/6pBBhtb8Ma0/w-d-xo.html I still don’t like the idea of a pressurized air and fuel filled tank
But that being said there might be something to taking the pressure to a high enough point with the compressed air that the gasoline isn’t able to be a vapor in those pressure and temp ranges ………🤔🤷♂️🤦♂️💨🤯 stillllll not worth it lol
holy, how did you build all of that, looks amazing! I try to understand it as a German but I keep learning. (From an American about engineering lol) but seriously, great job, keep it up, to interesting not to continue posting. U make me regret studying not engineering
Got to love more progress. I wonder if an ultrasonic atomizer might work well in this setup? A Venturi is great for simplicity / lack of moving parts though it likely makes the fuel/air mixing a bit challenging. Higher viscosity liquids/oils could be tricky without atomization. Any ideas here?
Yup yup! I’ve actually been trying to figure out how to use and oscillator engraver somewhere. Maybe even just sticking a piezo element onto the fuel misting tube in just the right place so the cantilever’s tip is an anti-node. But that being said, ultimately I will be using my Tesla pump/compressor multi-fluid vortex mixer idea for EXTREME air fuel mixing, aerosolization, AND compression. Check it out Tesla Compressor Multi-fluid Vortex Mixer & Steam Condenser - Air + Fuel Mixer Carburetor Atomizer th-cam.com/video/qLBqbBPikcc/w-d-xo.html I also have plans for it as a second stage pump steam condenser working in conjunction with my interstage heat exchanger idea of mine too. Tesla Turbine - InterStage Heat Exchanger (ISHE) - Heat Pump & Inverted Brayton Cycle & Improvements th-cam.com/video/pYSniitC8DM/w-d-xo.html
ultimately I will be using my Tesla pump/compressor multi-fluid vortex mixer idea for EXTREME air fuel mixing, atomizing/aerosolization, AND compression. Check it out Tesla Compressor Multi-fluid Vortex Mixer & Steam Condenser - Air + Fuel Mixer Carburetor Atomizer th-cam.com/video/qLBqbBPikcc/w-d-xo.html I also have plans for it as a second stage pump steam condenser working in conjunction with my interstage heat exchanger idea of mine too. Tesla Turbine - InterStage Heat Exchanger (ISHE) - Heat Pump & Inverted Brayton Cycle & Improvements th-cam.com/video/pYSniitC8DM/w-d-xo.html
@@CharlieSolis the multi fluid mixing is a pretty interesting concept. I'll take a look at the other video as well, thanks for sharing everything you do!
What kind of power could I get with 2000 ''PSI and does pulsing the air cause all kinds of anti-vortex air flow and lower efficiency? I am referring to your pneumatic only tesla turbine video...
Hey N Hanna! I can’t really say what kind of power it will have from 2000 psi as I’ve never really seen anywhere that would get a supply of 2000psi except for maybe HP CAES use. Can I ask where you plan to get a steady supply of 2000psi for powering the turbine? Can you elaborate on your anti vortex question? I’m not sure I’m fully following what you mean? 🙂
@@CharlieSolis Shee-it... You could percolate some coffee whilst boiling some taters, steaming veggies, pressure cooking rice, all while a brisket cooks itself.....
Hellz yeah!!! Literally could smoke some meat with some tree cuttings turned sawdust. Although it's not the intention, that machine is literally more wonderful than purported.
Fantastic!!! Though. I might have gone with another metal in the turbine and a different jet nozzle but then you would need a blast shield to start the engine. 😂🤣. Might be fun. 🤗... Either way, what you have there is beautiful.
Thanks Dan! ❤️🙏 Ohhhh this aluminum one is only the compressed air and low temp/cryogenic prototype. I’ve got all the stainless for making the high temp high pressure combustion prototype that I’ve been waiting until I’m satisfied with the aluminum one to cut out. It’s just rinse and repeat at this point with the cnc machines. Then soon we can just start stamping out the entire turbine 🤭🤓 just printing off whole turbines in 60 seconds in a rotor at stamping die 🤤
I would LOVE to make an all inconel 718 version for ultra high temps and RPMs but I honestly think they’ll be overkill for anything we’d need. With Tesla’s Improved combustion + steam turbine patent GB 186,083 the steam brings the combustion temps down to a much more adequate levels for the turbine while still containing all the same energy as a ultra high temp combustion jet that needs a MASSIVE compressor to supply all the cooling air for a turbine.
Hey Cole tool center! Right now it’s just going to atmospheric pressure. But once hooked up to the turbine there will be back pressure and a raise in pressure as the water jacket boiler comes up to temp. From there the input air and fuel pressure will be increased to keep the same pressure gradient across the burner so there’s the same fluid and flame propagation speed.
@@CharlieSolis do you have any figures on what pressure and volume you expect to achieve? When you tested your tesla turbine under load you were using 150PSI for 35 seconds. I have noted that as pressure is decreased the RPM achievable is reduced, eg 100psi may get 12000rpm on my turbo 40psi only get 4500rpm I assume also torque will also reduce.. it seems to get the tesla turbine to work it needs a constant pressure to accelerate the rotor. is this the case with your 10" Tesla Turbine.
@@Graemecns this is not the case. The max rpm for like has been different for each nozzle arrangement at the same Pressure. In any case you almost will NEVER be using max rpm anyway. You have the least power output at max rpm. Increased rpm gets an increased efficiency at the loss of power. Furthermore 150psi air was just a test fluid. We don’t need even half that for the steam + combustion version. The energy density in steam is SOOO much higher than for compressed air. I will be starting with 15 psi tests and go up from there. Most likely won’t ever go above 75 psi though.
@@Graemecns this is what Tesla says in the Aerial Apparatus for how to use the different nozzle arrangements. NIKOLA TESLA U.S. PATENT 1,655,114 - APPARATUS FOR AERIAL TRANSPORTATION “In order to secure the best results I have found it indispensable to depart, in some respects, from the usual design of my turbines and embody in them certain constructive features and means for varying the power developed from the minimum necessary in horizontal flight to an amount exceeding by far their rated performance, as may be required in the operations of ascent and descent, or spurts of speed, or in combating the fury of the elements. Furthermore, I so proportion and coordinate the fluid pressure generator supplying the primary energy, the propelling and the controlling means, that for any attitude or working condition of the machine the requisite thrust may be almost instantly produced and accurately adjusted. The understanding of these improvements will be facilitated by reference to Fig. 4 and Fig. 5. In the first named the turbines are intended to operate as rotary engines, expanding the gases in the rotor as well as the inlet nozzle or port 12, the depth of which can be varied by shifting a block 13, fitting freely in a milled channel of the casing, through the medium of lever 14 controlled by the aviator. The orifice for the passage of the elastic fluid is straight or slightly converging, so that a much smaller velocity is obtained than with an expanding nozzle, this enabling the best relation between the peripheral speed of the rotor and that of the fluid to be readily attained. The performance of such an engine at constant pressure of supply is, within wide limits, proportionate to the quantity of the working medium passed through the inlet port and it is practicable to carry, for indefinite intervals of time, an exceedingly great overload, by which I mean up to three or even four times the normal. Exceptional strength and ruggedness of the motors being imperative in view of centrifugal stresses and critical speed, their weight need not be appreciably increased as would be the case in other forms of prime movers in which, as a rule, the weight is in nearly direct proportion to the power developed. To accomplish my purpose I further provide commensurately larger inlet and outlet openings. No serious disadvantage is thereby incurred because windage and other losses are virtually absent and most of the rotary effort is due to the peripheral parts of the discs. As shown in the figure, block 13 is in the position corresponding to minimum effort, the section of the inlet channel being about one-fifth of the whole which is obtained when the block is pulled in its extreme position indicated by the dotted line. Owing to the increase of the coefficient of contraction and counterpressure attendant the enlargement of the inlet, the same should be made of ample section. Figure 5 shows a different means for attaining the same purpose. In this case the motors operate like true turbines, the working fluid being fully expanded, or nearly so, through divergent exchangeable nozzles as 15, having a throat of sufficient section for the passage of fluid required during maximum performance. The exhaust opening is also correspondingly enlarged, though not necessarily to the extent indicated in Figure 4. The power is varied by means of a throttle valve 16, as used in automobiles, located in the conduit supplying the air and carbureted fuel to the fluid pressure generator and mechanically connected to the controlling lever 14. This apparatus is of a capacity adequate to the maximum demand by which I do not mean that it is necessarily much larger than required for normal performances, but is merely designed to supply the working fluid or, broadly stated, energy-whenever desired, at a rate greatly exceeding the normal.” teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-1655114-apparatus-aerial-transportation
@@Graemecns in the 1200watt load tests I had the tanks at 150 psi. But I was throttling the supply with a valve. So the pressure going into the turbine from there was dropped. The 1200watt load was sustained all the way until the tanks were at 65psi. So at about 70psi the turbine would sustain 1200watts. Check out the efficiency and other calculations chart I made for that 1200 watt run. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxRukN0zoVbtfe1LmLUlXyIo0kdt1ExWZs
@@evandunn7403 😅 yeahhhhh lol I actually have a final valve at the bottom of the fuel tank that goes to a open fuel line that just dumps into a plastic gasoline fuel tank. So if I need to I can just dump the pressure and dump the whole volume of gasoline into a separate tank while it depressurizes. There’s also a valve at the top of the fuel tank to dump the gaseous pressure out of the tank too in case of an emergence. Otherwise you just cut the fuel throttle needle valve and everything shuts down.
@@evandunn7403 eventually I want these valves to be on a reduction stepper motosrs so I can use the offline controller of my cnc machine to fully automate combustion and air fuel mixing.
@@CharlieSolis there you go you need to get into plc valve controlers and it depends on the pressure but I definitely can help you with that. Belimo or specific variable controllers the make tones of types and I got a nice high temp boiler if you need.
Very cool. The thing I recall reading about these machines is they run best when the whole system in resonating. So it produces peak power at a narrow RPM range. How long will it run before it overheats/vibrates/self destructs? Please don't blow yourself up! Or burn down your shop!
Hey thanks for commenting Don! It really helps the algorithm! I’ve had this burner system running for hours non stop now. Just gotta keep feeding it water to the water jacket so nothing overheats. As for the Tesla turbine, I know there have been A LOT of things said about how it works. I’m working to prove a lot of them wrong. The biggest two I’ve already proven wrong is 1) that they have to be spun fast to even work or work efficiently, and 2) that they only get low torque. In my opinion, the rpm has little to do with the performance because you increase economy by reducing slip, not increasing rpm like everyone claims. When they are designed correctly to reduce slip they work well and effectively at a very wide range of RPMs. Yes efficiencies can go up with increasing rpm but doing it that way makes the efficiency go up at the cost of power. Because as you increase the rpm you increase the centrifugal back pressure on the nozzle, at a rate proportional to the the rpm squared ~(RPM^2), and thus reduce the mass flow rate of the incoming fluid for a given fluid supply. Reducing the mass flow rate reduces power available. Also, as centrifugal head increases the pressure gradient across the nozzle decreases. This reduces the final velocity of the fluid leaving the nozzle. Because the fluid is leaving slower and the discs are spinning faster, this reduces the torque on the disc. because the relative velocity of the fluid compared to the disc is even lower. 🤷♂️ What Tesla says to do is this.. “Owing to a number of causes affecting the performance, it is difficult to frame a precise rule which would be generally applicable, but it may be stated that within certain limits, and other conditions being the same, the torque is directly proportionate to the square of the velocity of the fluid relatively to the runner and to the effective area of the disks and, inversely, to the distance separating them. The machine will, generally, perform its maximum work when the effective speed of the runner is one-half of that of the fluid; but to attain the highest economy, the relative speed or slip, for any given performance, should be as small as possible. This condition may be to any desired degree approximated by increasing the active area of and reducing the space between the disks.” So now since I don’t need to run it at high RPMs, I don’t have to have outrageous balancing done on it because even the little vibrations there are aren’t very dangerous. Also since I’m not at high RPMs I can use more robust bearings. Furthermore what Tesla says about vibration with his improved turbine disc stack patent GB 186,082 (different than the combustion + steam one GB 186,083 or GB 186,084) which is the disc stack design I have… “This construction permits free expansion and contraction of each plate individually under the varying influence of heat and centrifugal force and possesses a number of other advantages which are of considerable practical moment. A larger active plate area and consequently more power is obtained for a given width, this improving efficiency. Warping is virtually eliminated and smaller side clearances may be used which results in diminished leakage and friction losses. The rotor is better adapted for dynamic balancing and through rubbing friction resists disturbing influences thereby insuring quieter running. For this reason and also because the discs are not rigidly joined it is safer against damage which might otherwise be caused by vibration or excessive speed.” (If you’re not familiar with this patent check out my video where I do a read aloud of the patent so you can view the pictures while hearing the text and not have to pan back and fourth to find what each part is about. Nikola Tesla's Upgraded Turbine Patent GB 186,082 th-cam.com/video/0IsgNUzc0pM/w-d-xo.html ) And lastly because I don’t have to worry about high RPMs because I’m getting plenty of torque at low RPMs to still output power I don’t have to gear the turbine down like every claims you have to. In fact, to smash that myth, and just to spite everyone who said that, I have my turbine geared UP to the generators at 3.6:1. Just so no one could be like “but the Tesla turbine doesn’t get any torque and you get too many losses gearing it down…” I can always just be like… “well mine works great AND it’s geared up and still works…..” Lastly because I don’t have to worry about high RPMs I don’t have to worry about the very hot motive fluid in the turbine making the discs spin outside their limits. I can go with even hotter motive fluids which, besides the viscosity increase in gasses as they get hotter decreasing the disc slip which increases efficiency, the thermodynamic efficiencies also go way up as you increase the temps. It’s a win win. 🤷♂️
I put a thermometer on the outlet of the burner and it’s coming out at a very nice 400°f (~204°c) which is just perfect for any stainless steel turbine to handle even at relatively high RPMs. th-cam.com/users/shortsHhl7D1OBzhs?feature=share As long as I can keep it powerful and competitively efficient between 3,000-15,000 rpm this 10in disc size is perfectly capable for even low grade stainless steels to be used. I have to double check but I’m pretty sure a majority aluminum casing could be used at these temps as well with even just a little bit of cooling water and maybe some steel inserts in certain places for strength.
This is the highest power and torque output dyno test recording. 2.75 kW and 6.22ft-lbs of torque at only 4150rpm th-cam.com/users/shortsZxy8mIVG6as?feature=share And then this video is a couple dyno spin ups with the variable nozzle I designed at different nozzle settings. Up to 2.25 kW Peak Power Output on Compressed Air th-cam.com/video/2aSbRT3tlUM/w-d-xo.html
Charlie, thanks, missed this one. You mentioned woodgas once. Right on my track. I would love to see/build a Tesla turbine on woodgas. Do you have one running so far? Top work man. Get the turbine running continously as CHP before you make the next step. Keep them coming, thanks
Hey much love Joe! I don’t have the full combustion + steam turbine up and running just yet. Still hammering out some of the design specs before committing the materials to a high temp/pressure one. Very soon though! These are the latest spin ups with the vacuum/low temp steam CHP system though check it out! Steam Tesla Turbine Micro Power Plant - 1st Start Up th-cam.com/video/aMYyBsjhBR4/w-d-xo.html instagram.com/reel/ClqGwiDDRSN/?igshid=ZmMyNmFmZTc=
Hey thanks for commenting! Great question! Honestly that’s only limited by the flame tube on the inside which can be changed out to go even bigger. But to be perfectly honest I’m not entirely sure yet with this build. I have to see the rate at which it uses fuel still to get a determination for about how much thermal power output it’s doing.
I’m assuming you have already seen them but just incase make sure to check out the latest updates on the combustion + steam Tesla turbine builds! Tesla Turbine 250 watt to 2.65 kW Power and Efficiency Test th-cam.com/video/K7qZvq1CMFg/w-d-xo.html +5 Horsepower Tesla Turbine Dyno Jet Turbo Power & Torque Curve 375 mph @ 125 00 rpm HIGH SCORE! th-cam.com/video/exF5Rn-L8gs/w-d-xo.html Solis Talks Tesla Turbines - Nikola Tesla’s Electrical Power Systems Patent GB 186,083 Walk Through th-cam.com/video/5Y3D13JmtcA/w-d-xo.html Tesla Turbine Jet Engine - gasoline fuel burner atomizer flame tube test 186,083 propane burner th-cam.com/video/gRqKowignac/w-d-xo.html
Oh also the latest vacuum steam system tests too! Steam Tesla Turbine Micro Power Plant - 1st Start Up th-cam.com/video/aMYyBsjhBR4/w-d-xo.html instagram.com/reel/ClqGwiDDRSN/?igshid=ZmMyNmFmZTc=
Thanks Future Sight! Honestly, this cost about the same as a decent sized new furnace and it’ll probably outlive any furnace you could buy on the market since it’s all stainless steel. And it also could be slimmed down to be the bare minimum, like without all the extra air and fuel preheating. I haven’t gotten as far yet as testing the max burn capabilities but I drained a good portion of that gasoline fuel tank doing just the 20 minute burn.
Yeah it’s definitely a function of how much air I can send in but I’m actually having trouble with the needle valves being sensitive enough for the needed changes. I can certainly flood the crap out of it but I don’t get a stable flame front inside the combustion chamber. A more important factor is the velocity of the fluids in the flame tube, it needs to be the same speed as the flame front, otherwise it’ll flame out. This makes the pressure gradient across the burner really important. Because the pressure drop across the burner will determine the fluid speed in the burner. So when it comes time to hooking up the Tesla turbine to it, the back pressure formed from the centrifugal head in the turbine will have to be counteracted by bringing up the burners initial pressure so that the fluids are moving through the burner at the same rate. This isn’t an issue though when being used as a generator because they spin at a constant rpm so the back pressure at the end of the flame tube will generally be about the same all the time. In the future I may even play around with doing an array of micro burners that all aim into the same steam mixing tube such that they always just operate at their peak point, if you want more power you just open and turn on more little burners.
@@futuresight218 yup! A fuel pump is another way to do it. I was just trying to replicate teslas GB 186,083 patent design where he uses a pressurized fuel tank. I had all the parts for this type of setup too. 🤷♂️ I’ll more than likely have a fuel pump and fuel rail style system in the future for the multi burner version
@@Jkauppa Yup! Quite literally a piston compressor “supercharged” combustion + steam rocket. 😈🔥😈🔥😈 I’ve got a pretty good air flow going through the garage with windows open. There’s a big ol’ fan that I have in the door blowing the air out.
@@Jkauppa once I’m happy with these burner tests it’ll be time for turbine Tests. And then after that I will be routing the exhaust through the keg vacuum condensers and from there to a large high vacua pump to whatever pipe I want to outside.
Hey Everyone! Come check out my latest Tesla Turbine updates on the 10in diameter, 75disc aluminum and plastic prototype drive turbine dyno, 3.75horsepower and 6.22ft-lbs of torque to the shaft at only 4150rpm with a 150psi room temp compressed air supply from a regular piston compressor for now. I’m gearing it UP AT 1:3.6 to dual BLDC gens with a Kv rating of 2200rpm/volt. So for every 611 RPMs on the turbine the generators output 1volt.
Tesla Turbine Generators With Usable Power and Torque
th-cam.com/play/PL4XBGjR8Gu-Emu1QRPIwATKFuCZabqOh1.html
Tesla Turbine Dyno Horsepower And Torque Outputs! + 300mph 3.75hp 6.22 ft-lbs 4150rpm
th-cam.com/users/shortsZxy8mIVG6as?feature=share
1200watt continuous electrical load output with room temp compressed air all the way down to 65 psi too and with the turbine only at about 6700rpm.
th-cam.com/video/BHPAQF8QNnw/w-d-xo.html
This is a look through of the 10in disc stack of 75 discs, +10,000in^2
th-cam.com/users/shortsFU2LMZQ2_yA?feature=share
These are the latest liquid fuel burner tests for the replication of GB 186,083.
th-cam.com/video/gRqKowignac/w-d-xo.html
These are the latest propane burner tests.
Tesla Turbine Jet Engine Combustion System GB 186,083 Superheated Steam
th-cam.com/video/KCyyiKnIarc/w-d-xo.html
I haven’t gotten to my Tesla disc compressor tests finalized just yet but I have the setup to do them already just gotta do some upgrades to my bearing and gear hubs for the generators.
10in Tesla Compressor & Turbine w/ Built In Balancing Apparatus RC Car Dual 6s 3kW 2200kv BLDC Motor
th-cam.com/video/fCQn7Q0rroI/w-d-xo.html
16.9K subscriber!
@@ivangoran4461 hey much love and gratitude my dood! ❤️🔥🙏🦾🤓👨🔬
Are you from Michigan?
@@effectentertainment7882 hey thanks! Yes!
@@CharlieSolis I live up in the U.P. that's awsome?
Liquid fuels are a go!!! Now we gotta get efficiency tests out so we can show how it compares to ICE’s. This is a great day, excellent work Charlie!
Thanks Andrew! Couldn’t have done this without you! Let’s take this to the next level!
whats the update on the efficiency?! We are looking at turbo diesel/ turbines for UAS stuff and would LOVE to get your numbers! @@CharlieSolis
love seeing your progress. I'm impressed you can look at a patent and replicate it like that. hats off to you my friend.
❤️ 🙏 thank you Raj! It’s been an honor just to be able to replicate Tesla’s works because people like you and everyone else on my patreon that have literally paved this path for us. I’m forever grateful for what you all do for me 🙏🙏🙏 thank you, raj. Thank you, thank you thank you. I don’t know if I can ever say it enough.
If you need use a 1 or 3 gal Firkin keg as as a fuel tank to get away from aluminum.
So with your liquid fuel this is where I was talking laminar flow through a nozzle and even dispersing of fuel. Yes so you don't blast yourself.
@@evandunn7403 ultimately I will be using my Tesla pump/compressor multi-fluid vortex mixer idea for EXTREME air fuel mixing, atomizing/aerosolization, AND compression.
Check it out
Tesla Compressor Multi-fluid Vortex Mixer & Steam Condenser - Air + Fuel Mixer Carburetor Atomizer
th-cam.com/video/qLBqbBPikcc/w-d-xo.html
I also have plans for it as a second stage pump steam condenser working in conjunction with my interstage heat exchanger idea of mine too.
Tesla Turbine - InterStage Heat Exchanger (ISHE) - Heat Pump & Inverted Brayton Cycle & Improvements
th-cam.com/video/pYSniitC8DM/w-d-xo.html
@@CharlieSolis this is where I had to get into talcum powder coal it was rough basically had to venture blow with pressurized air from huge intake fans into a tornado boiler. You may need to have a option for vertical positions so you can remove gravity from the nozzle deflection. I found a 63 to 80 deg x axis injection angle and 45 fixed degree z axis is ideal depending on the rate of burn and injection fuel mixture.
Pressurizing liquid fuel with air is...a bit sketchy. Generally in the oil industry nitrogen is used.
you could use a fuel pump, but maybe that's adding trouble you don't want to deal with, you could use a weight, or a spring.
Thinking outside the box, if you had the fuel in a flexible bladder and put it in a sealed water tank, you could pressurize the water tank which would squeeze the fuel bladder, you wouldn't need to worry about having a supply of inert gas, and leaks would only be a minor annoyance, as well you pressurizing and depressurizing it is relatively safe. It would be relatively easy to scale up as well.
All good ideas. I dabbled around with a few of them myself. There’s a bunch of ways to skin this cat. The bladder idea was what I wanted but the whole “making a gasoline proof bladder tank” was less than ideal at the moment.
If you are just pressurising you fuel tank with air and your fuel pickup is below your fuel level you should only get liquid fuel up until you run out off fuel then you have a fuel air mix. And if you don't have a positive valve you could get a blowback up your delivery tube. As I am using 12v fuel injector I have not had a problem.
@@Graemecns it is possible to do it and have nothing go wrong, it's just sketchy.
Flashback arrester solves all of these issues with the back pressure spikes.
While, I’m sure all of us here are all well aware of how they work, this animation is still 🔥🔥🔥🔥 AF
th-cam.com/video/6pBBhtb8Ma0/w-d-xo.html
I still don’t like the idea of a pressurized air and fuel filled tank
But that being said there might be something to taking the pressure to a high enough point with the compressed air that the gasoline isn’t able to be a vapor in those pressure and temp ranges ………🤔🤷♂️🤦♂️💨🤯 stillllll not worth it lol
Congratulation !
Thanks Luc!
Just released the latest update!
Tesla Turbine 250 watt to 2.65 kW Power and Efficiency Test
th-cam.com/video/XQl1DQgXVkQ/w-d-xo.html
More people need to look into all those patents from back then. Especially Tesla's...
Facts. Good sir. FACTS!
Apparently trumps uncle has something to do with the supposed missing trunks.
holy, how did you build all of that, looks amazing! I try to understand it as a German but I keep learning. (From an American about engineering lol) but seriously, great job, keep it up, to interesting not to continue posting. U make me regret studying not engineering
im really rooting for you
Much love and gratitude! 🙏❤️🔥🦾⚡️👨🔬🤓 very soon!
Hell yeah woodgas I definitely would like to help you with this and also buy some for my clients I do a sustainability
Hey thanks for the love! Let me know if you have any questions!
Got to love more progress. I wonder if an ultrasonic atomizer might work well in this setup? A Venturi is great for simplicity / lack of moving parts though it likely makes the fuel/air mixing a bit challenging. Higher viscosity liquids/oils could be tricky without atomization. Any ideas here?
Yup yup! I’ve actually been trying to figure out how to use and oscillator engraver somewhere. Maybe even just sticking a piezo element onto the fuel misting tube in just the right place so the cantilever’s tip is an anti-node.
But that being said, ultimately I will be using my Tesla pump/compressor multi-fluid vortex mixer idea for EXTREME air fuel mixing, aerosolization, AND compression.
Check it out
Tesla Compressor Multi-fluid Vortex Mixer & Steam Condenser - Air + Fuel Mixer Carburetor Atomizer
th-cam.com/video/qLBqbBPikcc/w-d-xo.html
I also have plans for it as a second stage pump steam condenser working in conjunction with my interstage heat exchanger idea of mine too.
Tesla Turbine - InterStage Heat Exchanger (ISHE) - Heat Pump & Inverted Brayton Cycle & Improvements
th-cam.com/video/pYSniitC8DM/w-d-xo.html
Sorry I edited and added a couple things to that first comment. If you didn’t see the edited version reload the comment 😇
ultimately I will be using my Tesla pump/compressor multi-fluid vortex mixer idea for EXTREME air fuel mixing, atomizing/aerosolization, AND compression.
Check it out
Tesla Compressor Multi-fluid Vortex Mixer & Steam Condenser - Air + Fuel Mixer Carburetor Atomizer
th-cam.com/video/qLBqbBPikcc/w-d-xo.html
I also have plans for it as a second stage pump steam condenser working in conjunction with my interstage heat exchanger idea of mine too.
Tesla Turbine - InterStage Heat Exchanger (ISHE) - Heat Pump & Inverted Brayton Cycle & Improvements
th-cam.com/video/pYSniitC8DM/w-d-xo.html
@@CharlieSolis the multi fluid mixing is a pretty interesting concept. I'll take a look at the other video as well, thanks for sharing everything you do!
Thanks for staying tuned in! Just trying to do some good in this crazy world we all live in now 😅
Congratulations!
Thanks Scott!
What kind of power could I get with 2000 ''PSI and does pulsing the air cause all kinds of anti-vortex air flow and lower efficiency? I am referring to your pneumatic only tesla turbine video...
Hey N Hanna! I can’t really say what kind of power it will have from 2000 psi as I’ve never really seen anywhere that would get a supply of 2000psi except for maybe HP CAES use. Can I ask where you plan to get a steady supply of 2000psi for powering the turbine?
Can you elaborate on your anti vortex question? I’m not sure I’m fully following what you mean? 🙂
Freakin Sweeeeeeeet! Definitely wanna see it running on rendered fat.... Hickory, or applewood though? Lolz
We could smoke meat with the exhaust lmao
@@CharlieSolis Shee-it... You could percolate some coffee whilst boiling some taters, steaming veggies, pressure cooking rice, all while a brisket cooks itself.....
@@jeffpatrick1864 we going ham in this mo’!
Hellz yeah!!!
Literally could smoke some meat with some tree cuttings turned sawdust.
Although it's not the intention, that machine is literally more wonderful than purported.
Fantastic!!! Though. I might have gone with another metal in the turbine and a different jet nozzle but then you would need a blast shield to start the engine. 😂🤣. Might be fun. 🤗... Either way, what you have there is beautiful.
Thanks Dan! ❤️🙏
Ohhhh this aluminum one is only the compressed air and low temp/cryogenic prototype. I’ve got all the stainless for making the high temp high pressure combustion prototype that I’ve been waiting until I’m satisfied with the aluminum one to cut out.
It’s just rinse and repeat at this point with the cnc machines.
Then soon we can just start stamping out the entire turbine 🤭🤓 just printing off whole turbines in 60 seconds in a rotor at stamping die 🤤
I would LOVE to make an all inconel 718 version for ultra high temps and RPMs but I honestly think they’ll be overkill for anything we’d need.
With Tesla’s Improved combustion + steam turbine patent GB 186,083 the steam brings the combustion temps down to a much more adequate levels for the turbine while still containing all the same energy as a ultra high temp combustion jet that needs a MASSIVE compressor to supply all the cooling air for a turbine.
Do you have a figure for the pressure coming out of your unit where it will drive your tesla turbine. And the volume output.
Hey Cole tool center! Right now it’s just going to atmospheric pressure. But once hooked up to the turbine there will be back pressure and a raise in pressure as the water jacket boiler comes up to temp. From there the input air and fuel pressure will be increased to keep the same pressure gradient across the burner so there’s the same fluid and flame propagation speed.
@@CharlieSolis do you have any figures on what pressure and volume you expect to achieve?
When you tested your tesla turbine under load you were using 150PSI for 35 seconds.
I have noted that as pressure is decreased the RPM achievable is reduced, eg 100psi may get 12000rpm on my turbo 40psi only get 4500rpm I assume also torque will also reduce.. it seems to get the tesla turbine to work it needs a constant pressure to accelerate the rotor. is this the case with your 10" Tesla Turbine.
@@Graemecns this is not the case. The max rpm for like has been different for each nozzle arrangement at the same Pressure. In any case you almost will NEVER be using max rpm anyway. You have the least power output at max rpm. Increased rpm gets an increased efficiency at the loss of power.
Furthermore 150psi air was just a test fluid. We don’t need even half that for the steam + combustion version. The energy density in steam is SOOO much higher than for compressed air. I will be starting with 15 psi tests and go up from there. Most likely won’t ever go above 75 psi though.
@@Graemecns this is what Tesla says in the Aerial Apparatus for how to use the different nozzle arrangements.
NIKOLA TESLA U.S. PATENT 1,655,114 - APPARATUS FOR AERIAL TRANSPORTATION
“In order to secure the best results I have found it indispensable to depart, in some respects, from the usual design of my turbines and embody in them certain constructive features and means for varying the power developed from the minimum necessary in horizontal flight to an amount exceeding by far their rated performance, as may be required in the operations of ascent and descent, or spurts of speed, or in combating the fury of the elements. Furthermore, I so proportion and coordinate the fluid pressure generator supplying the primary energy, the propelling and the controlling means, that for any attitude or working condition of the machine the requisite thrust may be almost instantly produced and accurately adjusted.
The understanding of these improvements will be facilitated by reference to Fig. 4 and Fig. 5. In the first named the turbines are intended to operate as rotary engines, expanding the gases in the rotor as well as the inlet nozzle or port 12, the depth of which can be varied by shifting a block 13, fitting freely in a milled channel of the casing, through the medium of lever 14 controlled by the aviator. The orifice for the passage of the elastic fluid is straight or slightly converging, so that a much smaller velocity is obtained than with an expanding nozzle, this enabling the best relation between the peripheral speed of the rotor and that of the fluid to be readily attained. The performance of such an engine at constant pressure of supply is, within wide limits, proportionate to the quantity of the working medium passed through the inlet port and it is practicable to carry, for indefinite intervals of time, an exceedingly great overload, by which I mean up to three or even four times the normal. Exceptional strength and ruggedness of the motors being imperative in view of centrifugal stresses and critical speed, their weight need not be appreciably increased as would be the case in other forms of prime movers in which, as a rule, the weight is in nearly direct proportion to the power developed. To accomplish my purpose I further provide commensurately larger inlet and outlet openings. No serious disadvantage is thereby incurred because windage and other losses are virtually absent and most of the rotary effort is due to the peripheral parts of the discs. As shown in the figure, block 13 is in the position corresponding to minimum effort, the section of the inlet channel being about one-fifth of the whole which is obtained when the block is pulled in its extreme position indicated by the dotted line. Owing to the increase of the coefficient of contraction and counterpressure attendant the enlargement of the inlet, the same should be made of ample section.
Figure 5 shows a different means for attaining the same purpose. In this case the motors operate like true turbines, the working fluid being fully expanded, or nearly so, through divergent exchangeable nozzles as 15, having a throat of sufficient section for the passage of fluid required during maximum performance. The exhaust opening is also correspondingly enlarged, though not necessarily to the extent indicated in Figure 4. The power is varied by means of a throttle valve 16, as used in automobiles, located in the conduit supplying the air and carbureted fuel to the fluid pressure generator and mechanically connected to the controlling lever 14. This apparatus is of a capacity adequate to the maximum demand by which I do not mean that it is necessarily much larger than required for normal performances, but is merely designed to supply the working fluid or, broadly stated, energy-whenever desired, at a rate greatly exceeding the normal.”
teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-1655114-apparatus-aerial-transportation
@@Graemecns in the 1200watt load tests I had the tanks at 150 psi. But I was throttling the supply with a valve. So the pressure going into the turbine from there was dropped. The 1200watt load was sustained all the way until the tanks were at 65psi. So at about 70psi the turbine would sustain 1200watts.
Check out the efficiency and other calculations chart I made for that 1200 watt run.
th-cam.com/users/postUgkxRukN0zoVbtfe1LmLUlXyIo0kdt1ExWZs
Going to have to install a emergency shut down 😂😂😂😂😂🧐
I would love to see EtoH or paraffin oil. Nice job
@@evandunn7403 😅 yeahhhhh lol I actually have a final valve at the bottom of the fuel tank that goes to a open fuel line that just dumps into a plastic gasoline fuel tank. So if I need to I can just dump the pressure and dump the whole volume of gasoline into a separate tank while it depressurizes. There’s also a valve at the top of the fuel tank to dump the gaseous pressure out of the tank too in case of an emergence. Otherwise you just cut the fuel throttle needle valve and everything shuts down.
@@evandunn7403 eventually I want these valves to be on a reduction stepper motosrs so I can use the offline controller of my cnc machine to fully automate combustion and air fuel mixing.
@@CharlieSolis there you go you need to get into plc valve controlers and it depends on the pressure but I definitely can help you with that. Belimo or specific variable controllers the make tones of types and I got a nice high temp boiler if you need.
What’s the efficiency?
Very cool. The thing I recall reading about these machines is they run best when the whole system in resonating. So it produces peak power at a narrow RPM range. How long will it run before it overheats/vibrates/self destructs? Please don't blow yourself up! Or burn down your shop!
Hey thanks for commenting Don! It really helps the algorithm! I’ve had this burner system running for hours non stop now. Just gotta keep feeding it water to the water jacket so nothing overheats.
As for the Tesla turbine, I know there have been A LOT of things said about how it works. I’m working to prove a lot of them wrong.
The biggest two I’ve already proven wrong is 1) that they have to be spun fast to even work or work efficiently, and 2) that they only get low torque.
In my opinion, the rpm has little to do with the performance because you increase economy by reducing slip, not increasing rpm like everyone claims.
When they are designed correctly to reduce slip they work well and effectively at a very wide range of RPMs.
Yes efficiencies can go up with increasing rpm but doing it that way makes the efficiency go up at the cost of power.
Because as you increase the rpm you increase the centrifugal back pressure on the nozzle, at a rate proportional to the the rpm squared ~(RPM^2), and thus reduce the mass flow rate of the incoming fluid for a given fluid supply. Reducing the mass flow rate reduces power available.
Also, as centrifugal head increases the pressure gradient across the nozzle decreases. This reduces the final velocity of the fluid leaving the nozzle.
Because the fluid is leaving slower and the discs are spinning faster, this reduces the torque on the disc. because the relative velocity of the fluid compared to the disc is even lower. 🤷♂️
What Tesla says to do is this..
“Owing to a number of causes affecting the performance, it is difficult to frame a precise rule which would be generally applicable, but it may be stated that within certain limits, and other conditions being the same, the torque is directly proportionate to the square of the velocity of the fluid relatively to the runner and to the effective area of the disks and, inversely, to the distance separating them. The machine will, generally, perform its maximum work when the effective speed of the runner is one-half of that of the fluid; but to attain the highest economy, the relative speed or slip, for any given performance, should be as small as possible. This condition may be to any desired degree approximated by increasing the active area of and reducing the space between the disks.”
So now since I don’t need to run it at high RPMs, I don’t have to have outrageous balancing done on it because even the little vibrations there are aren’t very dangerous.
Also since I’m not at high RPMs I can use more robust bearings.
Furthermore what Tesla says about vibration with his improved turbine disc stack patent GB 186,082 (different than the combustion + steam one GB 186,083 or GB 186,084) which is the disc stack design I have…
“This construction permits free expansion and contraction of each plate individually under the varying influence of heat and centrifugal force and possesses a number of other advantages which are of considerable practical moment. A larger active plate area and consequently more power is obtained for a given width, this improving efficiency. Warping is virtually eliminated and smaller side clearances may be used which results in diminished leakage and friction losses. The rotor is better adapted for dynamic balancing and through rubbing friction resists disturbing influences thereby insuring quieter running. For this reason and also because the discs are not rigidly joined it is safer against damage which might otherwise be caused by vibration or excessive speed.”
(If you’re not familiar with this patent check out my video where I do a read aloud of the patent so you can view the pictures while hearing the text and not have to pan back and fourth to find what each part is about.
Nikola Tesla's Upgraded Turbine Patent GB 186,082
th-cam.com/video/0IsgNUzc0pM/w-d-xo.html )
And lastly because I don’t have to worry about high RPMs because I’m getting plenty of torque at low RPMs to still output power I don’t have to gear the turbine down like every claims you have to.
In fact, to smash that myth, and just to spite everyone who said that, I have my turbine geared UP to the generators at 3.6:1.
Just so no one could be like “but the Tesla turbine doesn’t get any torque and you get too many losses gearing it down…”
I can always just be like… “well mine works great AND it’s geared up and still works…..”
Lastly because I don’t have to worry about high RPMs I don’t have to worry about the very hot motive fluid in the turbine making the discs spin outside their limits.
I can go with even hotter motive fluids which, besides the viscosity increase in gasses as they get hotter decreasing the disc slip which increases efficiency, the thermodynamic efficiencies also go way up as you increase the temps.
It’s a win win. 🤷♂️
I put a thermometer on the outlet of the burner and it’s coming out at a very nice 400°f (~204°c) which is just perfect for any stainless steel turbine to handle even at relatively high RPMs.
th-cam.com/users/shortsHhl7D1OBzhs?feature=share
As long as I can keep it powerful and competitively efficient between 3,000-15,000 rpm this 10in disc size is perfectly capable for even low grade stainless steels to be used.
I have to double check but I’m pretty sure a majority aluminum casing could be used at these temps as well with even just a little bit of cooling water and maybe some steel inserts in certain places for strength.
This is the highest power and torque output dyno test recording.
2.75 kW and 6.22ft-lbs of torque at only 4150rpm
th-cam.com/users/shortsZxy8mIVG6as?feature=share
And then this video is a couple dyno spin ups with the variable nozzle I designed at different nozzle settings.
Up to 2.25 kW Peak Power Output on Compressed Air
th-cam.com/video/2aSbRT3tlUM/w-d-xo.html
Just released the latest update!
Tesla Turbine 250 watt to 2.65 kW Power and Efficiency Test
th-cam.com/video/XQl1DQgXVkQ/w-d-xo.html
Charlie, thanks, missed this one. You mentioned woodgas once. Right on my track. I would love to see/build a Tesla turbine on woodgas. Do you have one running so far? Top work man. Get the turbine running continously as CHP before you make the next step.
Keep them coming, thanks
Hey much love Joe! I don’t have the full combustion + steam turbine up and running just yet. Still hammering out some of the design specs before committing the materials to a high temp/pressure one.
Very soon though!
These are the latest spin ups with the vacuum/low temp steam CHP system though check it out!
Steam Tesla Turbine Micro Power Plant - 1st Start Up th-cam.com/video/aMYyBsjhBR4/w-d-xo.html
instagram.com/reel/ClqGwiDDRSN/?igshid=ZmMyNmFmZTc=
What is the electrical output potential for this rig??
Hey thanks for commenting! Great question! Honestly that’s only limited by the flame tube on the inside which can be changed out to go even bigger. But to be perfectly honest I’m not entirely sure yet with this build. I have to see the rate at which it uses fuel still to get a determination for about how much thermal power output it’s doing.
@@CharlieSolis super impressive work man. I can't wait to see it hooked up to a voltmeter! 😂
I’m assuming you have already seen them but just incase make sure to check out the latest updates on the combustion + steam Tesla turbine builds!
Tesla Turbine 250 watt to 2.65 kW Power and Efficiency Test th-cam.com/video/K7qZvq1CMFg/w-d-xo.html
+5 Horsepower Tesla Turbine Dyno Jet Turbo Power & Torque Curve 375 mph @ 125 00 rpm HIGH SCORE! th-cam.com/video/exF5Rn-L8gs/w-d-xo.html
Solis Talks Tesla Turbines - Nikola Tesla’s Electrical Power Systems Patent GB 186,083 Walk Through th-cam.com/video/5Y3D13JmtcA/w-d-xo.html
Tesla Turbine Jet Engine - gasoline fuel burner atomizer flame tube test 186,083 propane burner th-cam.com/video/gRqKowignac/w-d-xo.html
Oh also the latest vacuum steam system tests too!
Steam Tesla Turbine Micro Power Plant - 1st Start Up
th-cam.com/video/aMYyBsjhBR4/w-d-xo.html
instagram.com/reel/ClqGwiDDRSN/?igshid=ZmMyNmFmZTc=
@@CharlieSolis fantastic! You should reach out to tech ingredients and do a collab! Scale it up!
Wowowow ! This is magnificent ☺️ It's probably expensive to 😜 it still will make Tesla proud I think , how much fuel can this thing burn per hour?
Thanks Future Sight! Honestly, this cost about the same as a decent sized new furnace and it’ll probably outlive any furnace you could buy on the market since it’s all stainless steel. And it also could be slimmed down to be the bare minimum, like without all the extra air and fuel preheating.
I haven’t gotten as far yet as testing the max burn capabilities but I drained a good portion of that gasoline fuel tank doing just the 20 minute burn.
@@CharlieSolis it probably depends on how much air you can supply to the burner I think ?
Yeah it’s definitely a function of how much air I can send in but I’m actually having trouble with the needle valves being sensitive enough for the needed changes.
I can certainly flood the crap out of it but I don’t get a stable flame front inside the combustion chamber.
A more important factor is the velocity of the fluids in the flame tube, it needs to be the same speed as the flame front, otherwise it’ll flame out.
This makes the pressure gradient across the burner really important.
Because the pressure drop across the burner will determine the fluid speed in the burner.
So when it comes time to hooking up the Tesla turbine to it, the back pressure formed from the centrifugal head in the turbine will have to be counteracted by bringing up the burners initial pressure so that the fluids are moving through the burner at the same rate.
This isn’t an issue though when being used as a generator because they spin at a constant rpm so the back pressure at the end of the flame tube will generally be about the same all the time.
In the future I may even play around with doing an array of micro burners that all aim into the same steam mixing tube such that they always just operate at their peak point, if you want more power you just open and turn on more little burners.
@@CharlieSolis way not using a fuel pump en direct injection whit a pwm ? This is proven to be a safe way right they use it in car's al the time
@@futuresight218 yup! A fuel pump is another way to do it. I was just trying to replicate teslas GB 186,083 patent design where he uses a pressurized fuel tank.
I had all the parts for this type of setup too. 🤷♂️ I’ll more than likely have a fuel pump and fuel rail style system in the future for the multi burner version
not very different from a turbo rocket system :)
how about pipe the co2 exhaust out of the building
@@Jkauppa Yup! Quite literally a piston compressor “supercharged” combustion + steam rocket. 😈🔥😈🔥😈 I’ve got a pretty good air flow going through the garage with windows open. There’s a big ol’ fan that I have in the door blowing the air out.
@@Jkauppa once I’m happy with these burner tests it’ll be time for turbine Tests. And then after that I will be routing the exhaust through the keg vacuum condensers and from there to a large high vacua pump to whatever pipe I want to outside.