⬇️🔶 LINKS TO PRODUCTS MENTIONED IN THIS VIDEO ⬇️⬇️ 🇺🇸 For people in USA: IK pump sprayer: amzn.to/3edqbzv Optimum No Rinse (ONR rinseless wash): amzn.to/2RCP3ZF McKee’s 37 N-914 Rinseless Wash: bit.ly/3F7ntYL Pro Blend bottle proportioner: bit.ly/3GAcMyA The Rag Company Ultra Black Sponge: amzn.to/3tzHPDN McKee's 37 Big Gold Sponge: amzn.to/3brnEkx 🇨🇦 For people in Canada: IK pump sprayer: bit.ly/2ROCF9a Optimum No Rinse (ONR rinseless wash): bit.ly/3v2Hb1Z McKee’s 37 N-914 Rinseless Wash: bit.ly/2QGt3fT The Rag Company Ultra Black Sponge: amzn.to/2QBOG1d Optimum Big Red Sponge: bit.ly/3uOnLOJ ✅ My rinseless wash tutorial: th-cam.com/video/RP_BZ-jZBnY/w-d-xo.html ✅ Detailers Business Academy with Yvan Lacroix (TH-cam channel): th-cam.com/channels/iAirridYXEt5iQIZ4K9RmA.html
@@tobyvincent6162 They have been selling a lot. I don't have any other places where to get them at the moment. But you can get the Big Red Sponge which works just as well (and was designed by Yvan Lacroix as well) here: amzn.to/34zkS95
Since I just bought myself a new foam cannon, foam, soap, and a box filled of microfiber mitts and towels I’m gonna just keep doing the old school method. The wife might lose it if I switch it up already 😂😂
From the first time My MaxShine foam cannon and Adam’s Mega Foam arrived, I’ve been hooked. I love that process! Watching and listening to the foam hit the driveway. It works! No doubt.
@BR-P-2001 // hes actually got a point. Tis the same process as traditional wash, but with a high tech sponge and you dont rinse after. Rinselss dont mean water less
A rinseless wash doesn't mean you don't rinse the car at the beginning, it simply means you don't need to rinse it at the end. Obviously on heavily soiled vehicles you would start with a thorough pre-treat and pre-rinse. Let me first start by saying that conversations in the world of detailing are an important thing to have. We always learn new things as we go, and we need to keep pushing the boundaries of what is possible. Each person has their own methods they like to use, based on their experience and knowledge, and that is fine. Sometimes, you can incorporate a new tip or trick in your routine or regimen and that’s also fine. The traditional wash method vs rinseless car wash method has always been controversial. And I understand why. It’s hard to wrap your mind around a new method that basically takes away everything you were used to and throws that out the window, and uses new products and techniques that can seem “coming from left field” to many people. I have been using the traditional two bucket method for so long and it works for me. I know how to do it properly and my cars have never had scratches, swirls or marring. I also have a water softener system and can work in my garage, and have a great pressure washer and access to free flowing water, so my setup is perfect for that method. I wash my car twice weekly so the rinseless wash method does also work well in my case, as my car is never super dirty, but I don’t feel the need to switch to this method, as I already have a tried and true process. But the rinseless wash method does work well for those who use it often and use it properly. Many professional detailers use this method with great success. And with many cities and towns with heavy water restrictions, or no access to free flowing water, a rinseless wash can sometimes be the only solution. I get it. And I’m ok with that, as long as it’s done well and it works in that person’s world. Are there good points to the rinseless wash method? Yes absolutely. I love the idea of the pre-treatment on the vehicle using a rinseless wash in a pump sprayer, to help with encapsulating dirt and lubricating the surface before rinsing the car. At the end, Yvan said it best: There is no right or wrong way. If your method yields good results and it makes you happy, by all means, keep doing what you’re doing. There’s nothing wrong with that. Let’s just keep enjoying detailing our cars, as driving a clean car is so much better!
@@PanTheOrganizer wow! I just have no words, what a way to explain something, and its true what you say about incorporating new thing and leaving other. Great reflection
@@PanTheOrganizer For those of us who can't wash twice a week, what's a good way to deal with the pollen/dust that tends to collect on your finish? I would guess you'd recommend a rinseless but are there other options? I've sealed the paint using Turtle Wax Ice and Shine but I'm not sure what to do for instances like this. Thanks in advance for your advice!
@@hypecentric well if it’s too dirty for a regular rinseless wash you kind of have no choice but to pre rinse. If you watch tutorials they never pre rinse it’s just an option if the car is way too dirty
First off, Pan and Yvan both have wonderful personalities and I appreciate the help y’all provide (especially to a newbie). I’m an apartment dweller looking to get into detailing so rinseless tech is a God send for me! I think the beauty here is (although it seems comment sections and forums often forget) is Yvan isn’t saying this is the only way to wash- rather a new way! At the end of the day you need to enjoy washing your vehicle and if you find it more fun to have 7 chemicals, 3-4 buckets, grit guards, multiple mitts, foam, pressure washer and so on do it! I see it much like electric vs gas car. Electric is the new tech and can do things skeptics don’t like but if you like gas buy a gas car! Just understand eventually rinseless may be the standard much like foam became the standard! Thanks pan!
Correct. As long as you use safe washing and drying methods, the most important is to pick what works best for you and have fun doing it! I want to spread my passion for detailing and make people actually enjoy taking care of their cars. :)
ONR is my go-to because my situation is different. My homeowner's association doesn't allow for car washing in my neighborhood (boo). So my routine is 1) go to self car wash w/ pressure washer just for tire wheel treatment. 2) apply P&S brake buster to wheel and tire, scrub, rinse off 3) come home & apply ONR presoak in a pump spray , then ONR rinseless wash w/ big red sponge , then dry with turtle wax flex wax as a drying aid 4) finally, Chemical Guys VRP for my tires. Using tips and techniques that Pan has taught me. Thanks, Pan! Having fun and joy here in San Diego.
Thanks for sharing your experience Richard! And yes I agree, there are circumstances where a rinseless wash might be the only alternative so wash a person's car. As long as it's done right, no worries there.
I'm not convinced... I'll personally continue to use my foam canon for a pre-wash, rinse, then refoam with soap and use the 2 buckets method. To dry the car I'll use my leaf blower.
Let me first start by saying that conversations in the world of detailing are an important thing to have. We always learn new things as we go, and we need to keep pushing the boundaries of what is possible. Each person has their own methods they like to use, based on their experience and knowledge, and that is fine. Sometimes, you can incorporate a new tip or trick in your routine or regimen and that’s also fine. The traditional wash method vs rinseless car wash method has always been controversial. And I understand why. It’s hard to wrap your mind around a new method that basically takes away everything you were used to and throws that out the window, and uses new products and techniques that can seem “coming from left field” to many people. I have been using the traditional two bucket method for so long and it works for me. I know how to do it properly and my cars have never had scratches, swirls or marring. I also have a water softener system and can work in my garage, and have a great pressure washer and access to free flowing water, so my setup is perfect for that method. I wash my car twice weekly so the rinseless wash method does also work well in my case, as my car is never super dirty, but I don’t feel the need to switch to this method, as I already have a tried and true process. But the rinseless wash method does work well for those who use it often and use it properly. Many professional detailers use this method with great success. And with many cities and towns with heavy water restrictions, or no access to free flowing water, a rinseless wash can sometimes be the only solution. I get it. And I’m ok with that, as long as it’s done well and it works in that person’s world. Are there good points to the rinseless wash method? Yes absolutely. I love the idea of the pre-treatment on the vehicle using a rinseless wash in a pump sprayer, to help with encapsulating dirt and lubricating the surface before rinsing the car. At the end, Yvan said it best: There is no right or wrong way. If your method yields good results and it makes you happy, by all means, keep doing what you’re doing. There’s nothing wrong with that. Let’s just keep enjoying detailing our cars, as driving a clean car is so much better!
Please be careful about what you say. Yvan has over 40 years of experience in the detailing world and is well respected in the detailing community. He retired from Optimum a while ago, and has since been a freelance consultant for many different brands. He currently has no affiliations with any brand, so is brand independent. He has used his experience and knowledge to help many companies develop new tools and products, and that’s quite awesome in my opinion. But he isn’t selling anything here. Just proud to talk about things he is passionate for, and helped to develop. Any creator would be happy to do the same. No company paid him to talk about these products. It was simply a conversation to get people thinking. And it’s always a fun time when I get to spend a day with Yvan. I constantly learn new things.
@@PanTheOrganizer Thank you for clarifying Pan. I just shared my method (which I think that many of us share). Respect for your job and for bringing up great discussions 👍🏻👍🏻 Keep up the great content 😎👍🏻
I can only go off experience. My first coated vehicle 4 years ago was an F250 truck and my detailer introduced me to ONR and rinseless washing. It has served me well for the last 4 years and my truck, which gets heavily soiled, and has minimal scratching over 4 years. I cannot pre-rinse the entire car with ONR because of the climate (heat & sun) will cause it to dry quickly. I go panel to panel and spray ONR on each panel, and let it dwell for a period relative to the amount of soil on my truck, then start with my bucket & sponge. I will also say the big red sponge, or whichever color sponge you choose that is designed for rinseless washing is critical. I still prefer a designated “soap” for tire and rims due to the degreaser properties. I will also add, ONR has been one of the most effective window cleaners without leaving residue. Lastly, rinseless wash does lack the gloss, slickness & hydrophobic properties I prefer. Therefore, I do use spray toppers like bead maker & every so often I like to snow foam with Car Pro Lift to remove any of those toppers or to get ready for any decontamination. Go with works for you. I am simply acknowledging that regular rinseless washing has served me well for an extended period. One question for Yvan: If polymers are supreme over soap, why do manufacturers add fragrance (I.e. Apple by McKee’s) to their chemistry? Before you say to add pleasantries for the user, isn’t the ultimate goal to take care of car paint and seems fragrances would introduce unnecessary residue into the polymer. Just an honest curious question.
In the last few years I have been using ONR Wash and Wax and the Big Red Sponge as my way of doing maintenance washes for my family's daily drivers. I like that it in my situation I don't have to drag out all of the tools (buckets. pressure washer etc) to do a maintenance wash. I also apply some topper such as Opti-Seal every other wash or so.
I went to one of Yvans training classes over a year ago and it changed my life and business for the better. I was doing so many unnecessary steps and wasting so much time. Now I'm able to detail a car in a fraction of the time while using far less products and get better results. I'm alot more profitable and at the end of the day I have alot more energy.
Dallas paint correction ahas a great video o this, If youre just rinsing the paint, and not contact washing, foaming indeed doesnt work any better. But if you are going to contact wash, it softens the dirt, reducing the risk of scratches.
I also will continue to use my traditional two bucket wash method with snow foam as a pre-wash too. I enjoy it and it has always worked for me. But it's nice to see other alternatives that when done right, can be useful for some people.
I will keep using my method. Which I show here: th-cam.com/video/xaQmB_qje_4/w-d-xo.html But I will add a pre-treat step with a rinseless wash before pre-rinsing from now on. I like the idea of encapsulating dirt before rinsing.
Rinsless will most definitely not work on an heavily soiled car with bugs etc, but im not cancelling it out as they can be very good for light soiled vehicles. Personally i would still use a proper shampoo, pre washes and the two bucket method just as its been my go to way for over 20years. Great vid once again Paaaan keep it up.👍🏼
Let me first start by saying that conversations in the world of detailing are an important thing to have. We always learn new things as we go, and we need to keep pushing the boundaries of what is possible. Each person has their own methods they like to use, based on their experience and knowledge, and that is fine. Sometimes, you can incorporate a new tip or trick in your routine or regimen and that’s also fine. The traditional wash method vs rinseless car wash method has always been controversial. And I understand why. It’s hard to wrap your mind around a new method that basically takes away everything you were used to and throws that out the window, and uses new products and techniques that can seem “coming from left field” to many people. I have been using the traditional two bucket method for so long and it works for me. I know how to do it properly and my cars have never had scratches, swirls or marring. I also have a water softener system and can work in my garage, and have a great pressure washer and access to free flowing water, so my setup is perfect for that method. I wash my car twice weekly so the rinseless wash method does also work well in my case, as my car is never super dirty, but I don’t feel the need to switch to this method, as I already have a tried and true process. But the rinseless wash method does work well for those who use it often and use it properly. Many professional detailers use this method with great success. And with many cities and towns with heavy water restrictions, or no access to free flowing water, a rinseless wash can sometimes be the only solution. I get it. And I’m ok with that, as long as it’s done well and it works in that person’s world. Are there good points to the rinseless wash method? Yes absolutely. I love the idea of the pre-treatment on the vehicle using a rinseless wash in a pump sprayer, to help with encapsulating dirt and lubricating the surface before rinsing the car. At the end, Yvan said it best: There is no right or wrong way. If your method yields good results and it makes you happy, by all means, keep doing what you’re doing. There’s nothing wrong with that. Let’s just keep enjoying detailing our cars, as driving a clean car is so much better!
Please be careful about what you say. Yvan has over 40 years of experience in the detailing world and is well respected in the detailing community. He retired from Optimum a while ago, and has since been a freelance consultant for many different brands. He currently has no affiliations with any brand, so is brand independent. He has used his experience and knowledge to help many companies develop new tools and products, and that’s quite awesome in my opinion. But he isn’t selling anything here. Just proud to talk about things he is passionate for, and helped to develop. Any creator would be happy to do the same. No company paid him to talk about these products. It was simply a conversation to get people thinking. And it’s always a fun time when I get to spend a day with Yvan. I constantly learn new things.
I clicked expecting to relax and listen. My brain is going 100 mph and I love it. I think this may be my answer! Thanks Pan! This channel just keeps getting better.
It's nice to see positivity in listening to alternative methods and perhaps learning a thing or two, so thank you for that! I myself will continue to use my traditional wash method, as it has always worked well for me, but I understand that the rinseless wash if done properly is a great alternative for many people including many detailing professionals. I will incorporate the pre-treatment with a rinseless wash sprayed on the vehicle before the first rinse. I like that.
I kind of agree with Ivan regarding the probability of scratching the car with the 2 bucket method. I ceramic coated both my cars and I’ve been washing them using two bucket methods and applying Carpro Reload every month. However, I still notice very slight scratches even though I polished the paint on both cars to perfection before applying the ceramic coating. It seems even though the 2 bucket method is still the best way to properly wash a car and prevent scratches to the paint, there is still the possibility of slight dirt getting stuck on the wash mitt that still cause the scratches in the paint. I don’t think there is a “perfect method” of washing a car without leaving very minor scratches to the paint. I would like to see a video of your thoughts on using the sponge and a waterless wash compared to your current method of washing a vehicle. I still prefer the foam cannon and 2 buckets and in the winter time, if the car is not too dirty, I take my car through a touchless carwash to get the dirt off and then use the Ammo waterless wash system which works amazingly .
For anyone that has/uses a Worx Hydroshot for pre/Di rinse they now have a mist nozzle thats freaking AWESOME. Havnt used as a pre rinse yet but cant wait to try it out.
There goes the income for promoting selling soaps. LOL. I love his first point that soaps are soaked, they're all about the same. Which I'm finding. Interesting video
Let me first start by saying that conversations in the world of detailing are an important thing to have. We always learn new things as we go, and we need to keep pushing the boundaries of what is possible. Each person has their own methods they like to use, based on their experience and knowledge, and that is fine. Sometimes, you can incorporate a new tip or trick in your routine or regimen and that’s also fine. The traditional wash method vs rinseless car wash method has always been controversial. And I understand why. It’s hard to wrap your mind around a new method that basically takes away everything you were used to and throws that out the window, and uses new products and techniques that can seem “coming from left field” to many people. I have been using the traditional two bucket method for so long and it works for me. I know how to do it properly and my cars have never had scratches, swirls or marring. I also have a water softener system and can work in my garage, and have a great pressure washer and access to free flowing water, so my setup is perfect for that method. I wash my car twice weekly so the rinseless wash method does also work well in my case, as my car is never super dirty, but I don’t feel the need to switch to this method, as I already have a tried and true process. But the rinseless wash method does work well for those who use it often and use it properly. Many professional detailers use this method with great success. And with many cities and towns with heavy water restrictions, or no access to free flowing water, a rinseless wash can sometimes be the only solution. I get it. And I’m ok with that, as long as it’s done well and it works in that person’s world. Are there good points to the rinseless wash method? Yes absolutely. I love the idea of the pre-treatment on the vehicle using a rinseless wash in a pump sprayer, to help with encapsulating dirt and lubricating the surface before rinsing the car. At the end, Yvan said it best: There is no right or wrong way. If your method yields good results and it makes you happy, by all means, keep doing what you’re doing. There’s nothing wrong with that. Let’s just keep enjoying detailing our cars, as driving a clean car is so much better!
I don’t have a garage so I need to always flood the panel with water, pressure wash all the leaves and crud off car, contact wash (bugs), and dry with leaf blower. Ceramic coating my car has made the washing process much easier and less marring because nothing really sticks to surface anymore. Maybe the sponge/ONR in the winter months but rest of the year no way that will ever work in my situation.
Really, really great video. When I first started detailing just a wee bit ago in 2018, I was looking to learn, and turned to TH-cam, and by chance the first video I stumbled on was a TRC video with Levi and Yvan , and of all things they were doing this crazy thing called a rinsless wash with this three letter product. I was huh???? Who on the heck who are these guys. I didn't dismiss it, but I didn't embrace it. I watch all kinds of washing videos. It took about a year of taking in Yvan's videos, taking in everything in, and I started doing rinseless washes. I'm a fan of McK's N-914 and SiO2 rinseless. Next step is to get a steamer to assist with winter rinsless washes. Thanks Yvan and Pan for laying it out on easy to understand terms.
It's not a new process. I already have a tutorial on a rinseless wash here: th-cam.com/video/RP_BZ-jZBnY/w-d-xo.html Let me first start by saying that conversations in the world of detailing are an important thing to have. We always learn new things as we go, and we need to keep pushing the boundaries of what is possible. Each person has their own methods they like to use, based on their experience and knowledge, and that is fine. Sometimes, you can incorporate a new tip or trick in your routine or regimen and that’s also fine. The traditional wash method vs rinseless car wash method has always been controversial. And I understand why. It’s hard to wrap your mind around a new method that basically takes away everything you were used to and throws that out the window, and uses new products and techniques that can seem “coming from left field” to many people. I have been using the traditional two bucket method for so long and it works for me. I know how to do it properly and my cars have never had scratches, swirls or marring. I also have a water softener system and can work in my garage, and have a great pressure washer and access to free flowing water, so my setup is perfect for that method. I wash my car twice weekly so the rinseless wash method does also work well in my case, as my car is never super dirty, but I don’t feel the need to switch to this method, as I already have a tried and true process. But the rinseless wash method does work well for those who use it often and use it properly. Many professional detailers use this method with great success. And with many cities and towns with heavy water restrictions, or no access to free flowing water, a rinseless wash can sometimes be the only solution. I get it. And I’m ok with that, as long as it’s done well and it works in that person’s world. Are there good points to the rinseless wash method? Yes absolutely. I love the idea of the pre-treatment on the vehicle using a rinseless wash in a pump sprayer, to help with encapsulating dirt and lubricating the surface before rinsing the car. At the end, Yvan said it best: There is no right or wrong way. If your method yields good results and it makes you happy, by all means, keep doing what you’re doing. There’s nothing wrong with that. Let’s just keep enjoying detailing our cars, as driving a clean car is so much better!
@@PanTheOrganizer I never saw that video, thanks! I guess because it was 3 x years ago, it would not have existed since foam canon is old technology in 2021!
Regardless of your choice of chemicals as the lubricating interface between your wash media and surfaces to be cleaned, the Gary Dean method is the only one that uses very little water and doesn't introduce the wash media back to your source bucket, nor does it dilute your solution. The GDWM can also be applied to traditional soaps, you just have to rinse off.
Thanks! The intro was filmed using my new Sony A7S III high end 4K camera, and the rest of the video filmed with my new DJI Pocket 2 (4K handheld gimbal camera).
Never understood why people use the 2 bucket method. As mentioned, not only does it dilute - but it’s twice the work with twice the buckets & twice the water. I put 8-10 of TRC Eaglet 500’s in a 2 gallon soap mixture. Each rag does 2 panels as they are 2 sided. Once each side is used, grab a new rag from the bucket. There is 0 chance of contamination, uses less water and I just find it much, much easier. Once done, they all go in the wash and ready for next time. I am also glad to see someone finally mention that foam cannons are a waste of time. Work smarter, not harder people lol This rinseless has me intrigued however, always interested in a more efficient (easier) way. The old saying may be true here however. The last days of old technology can sometimes be better than the first days of new technology.
Rinseless washes such as ONR have been around for over 15 years now. It is far from new technology. It’s widely used by professional detailers, and slowly being adopted by enthusiasts.
love the video... I would love to see a full video with the whole process on a lightly soiled car vs a heavy dirty car and compare. i do not use a 2 bucket method, but I use 6 wash mitts/pads and never have wash induced scratch issues.
I think the social media driven detailing industry majorly overstates the possibility of scratching or marring your paint by simply washing and/or drying it. You dry your car with a microfiber drying towel? Heaven forbid, that will scratch up your car. You need to make sure you're using a drying aid and an air drying method!
New concepts, new ideas, new techniques, new technology all for the betterment of our cars... Why not? Everything evolves and that is the reason we do things nowadays. All for the betterment of everything and everyone! Pan and Ivan, I appreciate this a lot!
Thanks Mark! That's the spirit. Open mind to at least hear of new alternatives. I still will continue to use my traditional 2 bucket wash method, as it has always worked for me, but we know that rinseless washes work well if done correctly and many people can find the use for them as well.
I live in an apartment building and my car is parked underground. so a rinseless wash works for me. However I find it harder to keep the car clean and do a rinseless wash during our Canadian winters because of the road salt and grime.
This is a very interesting methodology. I am sure there are workarounds to still using the traditional method (I personally like Larry Cosilla's way of having multiple towels on a bucket and discarding after every panel) but this seems so much easier. Time to pick up some ONR!
I love how open to different perspectives you are, Pan! Great vid by you and Yvan. I like washing with thick foam and two buckets as I learned from your videos Pan. In Pan we trust! So as you continue to learn and share with us I will continue to learn. Thanks for this video!
I guess that method is good, for garage kept cars that don’t get really dirty. I still prefer the rinse, foam, rinse, hand wash and leaf blower method then multiple towels to full dry. But every one is different, just like he said what ever you enjoy 🙂.
Exactly. Let me first start by saying that conversations in the world of detailing are an important thing to have. We always learn new things as we go, and we need to keep pushing the boundaries of what is possible. Each person has their own methods they like to use, based on their experience and knowledge, and that is fine. Sometimes, you can incorporate a new tip or trick in your routine or regimen and that’s also fine. The traditional wash method vs rinseless car wash method has always been controversial. And I understand why. It’s hard to wrap your mind around a new method that basically takes away everything you were used to and throws that out the window, and uses new products and techniques that can seem “coming from left field” to many people. I have been using the traditional two bucket method for so long and it works for me. I know how to do it properly and my cars have never had scratches, swirls or marring. I also have a water softener system and can work in my garage, and have a great pressure washer and access to free flowing water, so my setup is perfect for that method. I wash my car twice weekly so the rinseless wash method does also work well in my case, as my car is never super dirty, but I don’t feel the need to switch to this method, as I already have a tried and true process. But the rinseless wash method does work well for those who use it often and use it properly. Many professional detailers use this method with great success. And with many cities and towns with heavy water restrictions, or no access to free flowing water, a rinseless wash can sometimes be the only solution. I get it. And I’m ok with that, as long as it’s done well and it works in that person’s world. Are there good points to the rinseless wash method? Yes absolutely. I love the idea of the pre-treatment on the vehicle using a rinseless wash in a pump sprayer, to help with encapsulating dirt and lubricating the surface before rinsing the car. At the end, Yvan said it best: There is no right or wrong way. If your method yields good results and it makes you happy, by all means, keep doing what you’re doing. There’s nothing wrong with that. Let’s just keep enjoying detailing our cars, as driving a clean car is so much better!
@@PanTheOrganizer Well stated, it’s always good to learn about new technologies in car care, that’s why I’m here 🙂. But I do enjoy foaming up my car 😂.
This is one of your very best shows yet. Your guest gives a most excellent presentation, and I really appreciate this Pan. I like his detailing of the actual chemical mechanisms that underly the reasons for the different methods. You're my favorite on this subject.
Thanks for the feedback feedback James! I appreciate it. I like sharing all sorts of different topics with my viewers as some people need good alternative choices sometimes. Cheers!
QUESTION: What about using a LEAF BLOWER for touchless drying? I'll be posting on my channel, my detailing routine soon. And I use a very high powered cordless leaf blower.
@@johnhoey4605 I originally used the California Water blade WAYYYYY In the days but then discovered it scratched.. Then went to the drying towels and eventually, they caused scratches... Then went to leaf blower drying and never went back... Dry the car in literally 5 minutes or so completely dry with no waterspots and no touching of the surface
Well, I'm not a spring chicken anymore, and I have me and the wife's car to wash so, I really like the rinse less wash method. Its super versatile, effective, and it saves a lot of time.
I've got a ton of respect for Yvan. While I'm not fully on board with rinseless washing, I have incorporated some of his methods into my wash routine. I first clean the wheels, then pre-soak all the paint & glass with an iK Sprayer with ONR before my initial pressure washing step. After jet washing all the ONR off I then foam the car and follow with a 2 bucket method with TRC's other great wash media, the Cyclone. I do find that pre-saturating and soaking the paint with ONR does get off more embedded contaminants with my first initial jet wash.
Exactly! It's all about hearing what else is out there and perhaps incorporating new tips and tricks to our tried and tested methods. I for one, also incorporated the pre-treat with a rinseless wash now. Helps encapsulate the dirt before rinsing the car.
I have a car dryer but I find that while removing the water it also transforms the drops intro spray that dry a lot faster on the surfaces. So I get micro water spots, or spray spots.
Hi Greg. Let me first start by saying that conversations in the world of detailing are an important thing to have. We always learn new things as we go, and we need to keep pushing the boundaries of what is possible. Each person has their own methods they like to use, based on their experience and knowledge, and that is fine. Sometimes, you can incorporate a new tip or trick in your routine or regimen and that’s also fine. The traditional wash method vs rinseless car wash method has always been controversial. And I understand why. It’s hard to wrap your mind around a new method that basically takes away everything you were used to and throws that out the window, and uses new products and techniques that can seem “coming from left field” to many people. I have been using the traditional two bucket method for so long and it works for me. I know how to do it properly and my cars have never had scratches, swirls or marring. I also have a water softener system and can work in my garage, and have a great pressure washer and access to free flowing water, so my setup is perfect for that method. I wash my car twice weekly so the rinseless wash method does also work well in my case, as my car is never super dirty, but I don’t feel the need to switch to this method, as I already have a tried and true process. But the rinseless wash method does work well for those who use it often and use it properly. Many professional detailers use this method with great success. And with many cities and towns with heavy water restrictions, or no access to free flowing water, a rinseless wash can sometimes be the only solution. I get it. And I’m ok with that, as long as it’s done well and it works in that person’s world. Are there good points to the rinseless wash method? Yes absolutely. I love the idea of the pre-treatment on the vehicle using a rinseless wash in a pump sprayer, to help with encapsulating dirt and lubricating the surface before rinsing the car. At the end, Yvan said it best: There is no right or wrong way. If your method yields good results and it makes you happy, by all means, keep doing what you’re doing. There’s nothing wrong with that. Let’s just keep enjoying detailing our cars, as driving a clean car is so much better!
I've been rinseless washing my car about 90% of the time with ONR the past year or so and find it very fast and convenient. It is particularly helpful in the winter where I can wash both of my cars in my unheated garage in about an hour or so.
Do you pre-rinse? I don't have a water source in my garage and in Michigan winter, my external faucet and house will freeze in minutes. Will I scratch my paint with all the road salt, dirty snow/ice if I don't pre-rinse?
@@TheEnder82 Yes, I definitely pre-rinse, using ONR (I also have no heat in my garage and no running water either, but my garage temp is usually above freezing as it is well insulated and attached to the house). I make a 4-gallon bucket using warm water. Fill about half into an inexpensive sprayer I purchased from a big box store and generously spray down the car. Then I rinseless wash from the bucket using the multiple mitt method (about 5-6 per car). If there are areas with especially heavy salt I will make two buckets and fill the sprayer twice, using two gallons in the sprayer and two in a bucket. My garage floor is a mess until I get a warm enough day to haul out a hose and spray it down.
I do rinseless on my coated vehicles and vehicles I have coated in my detailing business. For really dirty vehicles, I will do a decon wash with the pressure washer and follow up with rinseless.
The idea with a waterless wash no rinse that he is not dragging any dirt with his black sponge is ridiculous!!! If you don't want to scratch your car don't wash it!! Seriously there is no way to not drag any dirt when you are washing your car!!! But, by using your favorite way and rinse the car first and foam it and then after the final rinse blow dry it the scratches will be microscope!!! He's just trying to sell his ideas and I respect that!! We all have our own ways but, I am always looking for new ways to care for my cars!!! Nothing wrong with listening to a different way of doing things and then deciding if that might be good for me!!! Hope all that put this video together are all safe and well!! Thanks for the video!!! Appreciate it!!!
He isn't selling anything William, just to be clear. Let me first start by saying that conversations in the world of detailing are an important thing to have. We always learn new things as we go, and we need to keep pushing the boundaries of what is possible. Each person has their own methods they like to use, based on their experience and knowledge, and that is fine. Sometimes, you can incorporate a new tip or trick in your routine or regimen and that’s also fine. The traditional wash method vs rinseless car wash method has always been controversial. And I understand why. It’s hard to wrap your mind around a new method that basically takes away everything you were used to and throws that out the window, and uses new products and techniques that can seem “coming from left field” to many people. I have been using the traditional two bucket method for so long and it works for me. I know how to do it properly and my cars have never had scratches, swirls or marring. I also have a water softener system and can work in my garage, and have a great pressure washer and access to free flowing water, so my setup is perfect for that method. I wash my car twice weekly so the rinseless wash method does also work well in my case, as my car is never super dirty, but I don’t feel the need to switch to this method, as I already have a tried and true process. But the rinseless wash method does work well for those who use it often and use it properly. Many professional detailers use this method with great success. And with many cities and towns with heavy water restrictions, or no access to free flowing water, a rinseless wash can sometimes be the only solution. I get it. And I’m ok with that, as long as it’s done well and it works in that person’s world. Are there good points to the rinseless wash method? Yes absolutely. I love the idea of the pre-treatment on the vehicle using a rinseless wash in a pump sprayer, to help with encapsulating dirt and lubricating the surface before rinsing the car. At the end, Yvan said it best: There is no right or wrong way. If your method yields good results and it makes you happy, by all means, keep doing what you’re doing. There’s nothing wrong with that. Let’s just keep enjoying detailing our cars, as driving a clean car is so much better!
Great video pan and Yvan!! I’ve been doing rinseless wash or waterless wash for quite sometime now since I live in an apartment, I had to find a way to clean our cars the safest way possible. A lot of people shy away from it because the potential of scratching the paint. It will if it’s not done properly even on a 2 bucket wash it could still scratch. I Really find rinseless or waterless wash to be time saver and conserve a lot of water. Less water, less mess. Thanks to both of you for bringing this up and to enlighten detailers out there. PS I think I cracked the code on this on how to properly do it without scratching the paint. Haha
This was an incredibly educational and informative video and very well explained. The facts are the facts. I’ve continued to use the same methods (old school) for over 30 years. Think I need to change it up and toss my chamois, absorber, sponge, and SOAP! Very well done video !
Yesterday I was waiting in a shopping plaza for my son to be finished with karate and I used n914 rinseless and washed my car. So easy and nice. Big red sponge and a drying towel too.
I used Optimum several times per label directions. I did not like the scratching sound made while washing. I went back to the method somewhat criticized in this video.
Let me first start by saying that conversations in the world of detailing are an important thing to have. We always learn new things as we go, and we need to keep pushing the boundaries of what is possible. Each person has their own methods they like to use, based on their experience and knowledge, and that is fine. Sometimes, you can incorporate a new tip or trick in your routine or regimen and that’s also fine. The traditional wash method vs rinseless car wash method has always been controversial. And I understand why. It’s hard to wrap your mind around a new method that basically takes away everything you were used to and throws that out the window, and uses new products and techniques that can seem “coming from left field” to many people. I have been using the traditional two bucket method for so long and it works for me. I know how to do it properly and my cars have never had scratches, swirls or marring. I also have a water softener system and can work in my garage, and have a great pressure washer and access to free flowing water, so my setup is perfect for that method. I wash my car twice weekly so the rinseless wash method does also work well in my case, as my car is never super dirty, but I don’t feel the need to switch to this method, as I already have a tried and true process. But the rinseless wash method does work well for those who use it often and use it properly. Many professional detailers use this method with great success. And with many cities and towns with heavy water restrictions, or no access to free flowing water, a rinseless wash can sometimes be the only solution. I get it. And I’m ok with that, as long as it’s done well and it works in that person’s world. Are there good points to the rinseless wash method? Yes absolutely. I love the idea of the pre-treatment on the vehicle using a rinseless wash in a pump sprayer, to help with encapsulating dirt and lubricating the surface before rinsing the car. At the end, Yvan said it best: There is no right or wrong way. If your method yields good results and it makes you happy, by all means, keep doing what you’re doing. There’s nothing wrong with that. Let’s just keep enjoying detailing our cars, as driving a clean car is so much better!
Pas dutout. Hehe. Je vais continuer à utiliser ma méthode de lavage traditionnelle car ça l'a toujours fonctionné pour moi. Le lavage sans rinçage est une bonne alternative (si bien faite) pour certaines personnes n'ayant peut-être pas accès à l'eau aussi facilement.
@@PanTheOrganizer I totally agree, new methods and technology are being founded quickly and I am very open minded to new products and methods but for me spending an hour and a half cleaning my car is like, to some, watching a movie and escaping the world for a brief moment. This cuts the time in half so as I am a professional detailer I totally agree this will help my business but on a personal level it doesn't suit me or my needs. Like you said it works differently for different situations and personal requirements 😁
I was trying really hard to focus but that Porsche. Anyway, I really appreciate the scientific approach broken down and made easy. Good informative video.
This is fascinating. I have more foam cannons, soaps, snow foams, buckets, etc. than I can count, but I'm enormously interested in completely replacing the methods I've used for years with this rinseless wash process. Yvan is extremely convincing.
Of course, use common sense. If the vehicle is caked in layers of thick mud and dirt, you would pre-rinse the vehicle first. Rinseless wash doesn't mean you never rinse. It just means you don't need to rinse at the end of the process.
OK, I feel like I read the book and now I want to see the movie. No doubt you have a guest in Ivan who is an expert, but we only got to see about 30 seconds of actual washing, and 99% of the clip was a (mostly helpful) lecture. Just not as engaging or helpful as doing the job and talking through it. I know you have a rinseless tutorial with some actual demo, but it's a different narrative from Yvan's. I feel as though this should be re-shot in the style of most of your videos, with the dialog and hands-on at the same time. This is an important and universal issue (not everyone waxes or coats, but everyone washes) and his thoughts are way different than conventional. Maybe rinseless is simple, but I for one would like to see a real-world, average-dirty car get done. The only other thing left unsaid in the video is what about rinseless and an air cannon? That's all I ever use to dry. Thanks for playing.
That's because I already have a rinseless wash tutorial here: th-cam.com/video/RP_BZ-jZBnY/w-d-xo.html This video was meant more as a discussion on the topic. A fun one to have as well.
Thankyou Pan and Ivan for taking the time to make this video. As you said at the very beginning “it may cause controversy” but that’s good. It gets people talking about it. Products and Techniques evolve, and it’s great to see a fellow TH-camr breaking down the boundaries with new ideas. I bet you both sat down and thought “should we upload this?” Well done and thanks again for some great thought provoking content. 👏
I like to have different discussions on many topics. Talking about rinseless washes always seems to stir up controversy. I mean I get it, as many people just aren't used to throwing away everything they knew about a method and having to adopt new products, techniques, etc. Let me first start by saying that conversations in the world of detailing are an important thing to have. We always learn new things as we go, and we need to keep pushing the boundaries of what is possible. Each person has their own methods they like to use, based on their experience and knowledge, and that is fine. Sometimes, you can incorporate a new tip or trick in your routine or regimen and that’s also fine. The traditional wash method vs rinseless car wash method has always been controversial. And I understand why. It’s hard to wrap your mind around a new method that basically takes away everything you were used to and throws that out the window, and uses new products and techniques that can seem “coming from left field” to many people. I have been using the traditional two bucket method for so long and it works for me. I know how to do it properly and my cars have never had scratches, swirls or marring. I also have a water softener system and can work in my garage, and have a great pressure washer and access to free flowing water, so my setup is perfect for that method. I wash my car twice weekly so the rinseless wash method does also work well in my case, as my car is never super dirty, but I don’t feel the need to switch to this method, as I already have a tried and true process. But the rinseless wash method does work well for those who use it often and use it properly. Many professional detailers use this method with great success. And with many cities and towns with heavy water restrictions, or no access to free flowing water, a rinseless wash can sometimes be the only solution. I get it. And I’m ok with that, as long as it’s done well and it works in that person’s world. Are there good points to the rinseless wash method? Yes absolutely. I love the idea of the pre-treatment on the vehicle using a rinseless wash in a pump sprayer, to help with encapsulating dirt and lubricating the surface before rinsing the car. At the end, Yvan said it best: There is no right or wrong way. If your method yields good results and it makes you happy, by all means, keep doing what you’re doing. There’s nothing wrong with that. Let’s just keep enjoying detailing our cars, as driving a clean car is so much better!
As someone with a degree in chemistry he is absolutely right. That being said don’t just chuck your soaps you can mix your process up, which gyeon wet coat would allow you to use soap rinse while wet spray protection/rinse and blow, also if you have multiple mitts use one side the other side per panel and that mitt is done. He’s absolutely correct microfiber holds onto dirt and honestly I have tried to get them clean by hand without a machine and couldn’t accomplish it. This guy knows his stuff but with enough practice and thought behind your process, you can make almost any “product” safe, but not every method is safe 👍
Correct. There are many good ways to get a good wash (or any other detailing step) but it's all in the technique and how you do things. Safe washing and drying methods are key. Thanks for watching!
I’ve used the Chemical Guys waterless car wash for years and they recommend using microfiber cloths to wipe down the dirt. Works well on rims and tires I use it in the winter in the garage & for me I like it. But I agree with Ivan about the scratches when you dry the vehicle.
I made the switch to rinseless about five years ago and it was the best detailing related decision I've ever made. Foam cannons are now just for therapy.
There's just no arguing with the godfather of detailing lol recently started using my onr as a rinseless wash (main purpose of buying was for clay lube) and I'm impressed how much time it saves! Thank you gentlemen!!
I had good success with rinseless wash. I actually do a slight different method. I would put a some of the product in a spray bottle. Spray the section first let it dwell then use my Mitt that is in the rinseless soap. After using both sides I will plug it to the rinse and rub it against the grates. Squeeze out water then back in the other bucket. But I found it a great substitute when I dont feel pulling out the garden hoose. Two rinseless washes I have used are Chemical guys and Opti coat one. I have used the rinseless on our work vehicles as well as my mustang.
Yes good point Tony. I had also tried a variant of the rinseless wash on my previous BMW in this video: th-cam.com/video/DxBdWQ2k9Tw/w-d-xo.html But I do the majority of my washes using my tried and tested 2 bucket wash as in this video: th-cam.com/video/9QWk0ZFb6_I/w-d-xo.html
honestly a hybrid is always the way to go. there's no absolutes in this world. If car is very dirty, i will prerinse with rinseless wash, then hose/pressure wash off, then do rinseless wash. I also live in an apartment so I don't have the luxury of a hose. Rinseless wash is also eco-friendly! give mother earth some love
Good points Jolie! I will continue to use my traditional two bucket wash method as it has always worked well for me, but I understand the need for some to have an alternative method. If done right, the rinseless wash is a good method too. I will incorporate the pre-treatment using the rinseless wash though. I love the idea of encapsulating dirt before pressure washing the surface to pre-rinse. This was more a fun discussion to get people thinking about alternatives when needed.
Additional thought-provoking comments as to whether or not foaming your car is worth it. Reminds me of the never-ending discussion on the Dodge forum about catch cans. Do they do anything... probably. Are they necessary... probably not. That said, I use CG Honeydew through a foam cannon and have a Billet Tech catch can. I *think* both are a net plus, so I'm happy. Thanks for another great post, Pan. Always love the scientific angle from Ivan!
Thanks Ken! Yeah there are always heated topics in any field, and detailing is no exception. I think discussions are important to be had and we need to keep trying and testing new things. I know I love it. As long as discussions stay civilized, it's always nice to share opinions. I will continue to use my traditional two bucket wash method, but I understand that if done well, the rinseless wash is a great alternative for people who might need such a method especially in a world where many cities are going nuts with water bans and restrictions.
Thanks , it’s always fun to look at alternatives, and try new things. Rinseless washing is far from new for professional detailers, and making inroads with enthusiasts.
I concur with a lot of the comments. I would like to see a demo of a rinseless wash. Seeing how the process is done would be great. Otherwise thank you for this video. Your site is very informative.
I call BS until they actually present facts from scientist to back up this claim. We all know Yvan promotes ONR and other products so it sounds to me like a sales pitch to use those products.
Let me first start by saying that conversations in the world of detailing are an important thing to have. We always learn new things as we go, and we need to keep pushing the boundaries of what is possible. Each person has their own methods they like to use, based on their experience and knowledge, and that is fine. Sometimes, you can incorporate a new tip or trick in your routine or regimen and that’s also fine. The traditional wash method vs rinseless car wash method has always been controversial. And I understand why. It’s hard to wrap your mind around a new method that basically takes away everything you were used to and throws that out the window, and uses new products and techniques that can seem “coming from left field” to many people. I have been using the traditional two bucket method for so long and it works for me. I know how to do it properly and my cars have never had scratches, swirls or marring. I also have a water softener system and can work in my garage, and have a great pressure washer and access to free flowing water, so my setup is perfect for that method. I wash my car twice weekly so the rinseless wash method does also work well in my case, as my car is never super dirty, but I don’t feel the need to switch to this method, as I already have a tried and true process. But the rinseless wash method does work well for those who use it often and use it properly. Many professional detailers use this method with great success. And with many cities and towns with heavy water restrictions, or no access to free flowing water, a rinseless wash can sometimes be the only solution. I get it. And I’m ok with that, as long as it’s done well and it works in that person’s world. Are there good points to the rinseless wash method? Yes absolutely. I love the idea of the pre-treatment on the vehicle using a rinseless wash in a pump sprayer, to help with encapsulating dirt and lubricating the surface before rinsing the car. At the end, Yvan said it best: There is no right or wrong way. If your method yields good results and it makes you happy, by all means, keep doing what you’re doing. There’s nothing wrong with that. Let’s just keep enjoying detailing our cars, as driving a clean car is so much better!
@@PanTheOrganizer I think for a lightly soiled car it would be great, not so convinced on winter road film , Canada and Scotland are quite similar in weather 😂, Pan ,you and Jon from forensic detailing are my go to guys and both of you have cost me £hundreds over the years ( not telling my wife) By the way I’m loving the new Porsche, I got one of my dream cars last year Mercedes E400 convertible and have CarPro Finest Reserve on it Keep up the great work my friend
I'm intrigued by this new technology and I'm excited to give it a try. I ordered some supplies mentioned and will try it out on my two vehicles and see how it goes. In the winter time, the weather is not great in the Pacific Northwest and getting out a hose with running water isn't the best solution. My garage has no floor drain nor does it have finished mold resistant paint. This should give me more options and accomplish a wash in less time.
If you have access to water, I would still recommend the traditional two bucket wash method. But if you have no easy access to water or live in areas with water bans/restrictions, and the vehicle isn’t too dirty, a rinseless wash is a good alternative assuming you do it well. I have a recent rinseless wash tutorial here: th-cam.com/video/p58Y5qRd3OU/w-d-xo.html
Yeah I'm still figuring out the new gear and multiple people type videos. As this was all done the same day, I couldn't readjust until I saw the footage during editing. It seems the DJI Pocket 2 won't pick up voices of many people as well when I connect the wireless lav mic kit to it for the main talking person. If I hadn't used that wireless mic, and just used the onboard microphones of the DJI, it would have picked up both people better. Live and learn.
I love ONR and use it all winter long on the cars in the garage. I do use soap and foam on my coated car, just because I use that companies products that match the coating. They are both fun and enjoyable to use, but ONR is really impressive for its chemistry and ability to clean for sure.
Sounds nice, but too extreme for all of us who bought a car to use it. I’ll look forward to analyze this proposed method, time and dollar wise. Thanks Pan, as always.
Let me first start by saying that conversations in the world of detailing are an important thing to have. We always learn new things as we go, and we need to keep pushing the boundaries of what is possible. Each person has their own methods they like to use, based on their experience and knowledge, and that is fine. Sometimes, you can incorporate a new tip or trick in your routine or regimen and that’s also fine. The traditional wash method vs rinseless car wash method has always been controversial. And I understand why. It’s hard to wrap your mind around a new method that basically takes away everything you were used to and throws that out the window, and uses new products and techniques that can seem “coming from left field” to many people. I have been using the traditional two bucket method for so long and it works for me. I know how to do it properly and my cars have never had scratches, swirls or marring. I also have a water softener system and can work in my garage, and have a great pressure washer and access to free flowing water, so my setup is perfect for that method. I wash my car twice weekly so the rinseless wash method does also work well in my case, as my car is never super dirty, but I don’t feel the need to switch to this method, as I already have a tried and true process. But the rinseless wash method does work well for those who use it often and use it properly. Many professional detailers use this method with great success. And with many cities and towns with heavy water restrictions, or no access to free flowing water, a rinseless wash can sometimes be the only solution. I get it. And I’m ok with that, as long as it’s done well and it works in that person’s world. Are there good points to the rinseless wash method? Yes absolutely. I love the idea of the pre-treatment on the vehicle using a rinseless wash in a pump sprayer, to help with encapsulating dirt and lubricating the surface before rinsing the car. At the end, Yvan said it best: There is no right or wrong way. If your method yields good results and it makes you happy, by all means, keep doing what you’re doing. There’s nothing wrong with that. Let’s just keep enjoying detailing our cars, as driving a clean car is so much better!
Pan that guy is a pro hands down and to me that method is awesome 👏 because you saving on time electricity and water 💧big time so much words of wisdom give it up to your mate and his wife much love ❤️👍👍👍👍👍👍👌👌👌👌🙏🙏🙏🙏👏👏👊👊👊👊✊✊🤘🤘💪💪💪💪💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
I used McKee’s 37 N-914 and did a Rinseless wash on my black car. It worked well. I went one panel at a time and used fluffy microfiber towels and turtle wax graphene flex wax as a drying aide. It did save me time, but It took me a hour to do everything. I did the wheels first with tire and wheel cleaner, then did the car. I think I will do this a few more times to get the hang of it.
First time I used ONR the initial scraping feel as the mitt hit the dirt as it were, freaked me out. I now always do a pre soak with the solution and that gets round that. I think I would always do a pre rinse on a heavily soiled car but my low mileage on reasonably decent surfaces means it is rare I need to do that. Great video as always.
I love these controversial subjects. I’m thinking about using making a video on with one rinse bucket and just using the foam lance to apply the soap/foam solution. I understand the the principle of the rinseless wash method, but the product doesn’t feel lubricated enough. I really like using it as a quick detailer though. I’m not sure about the snowfoam 50/50 as it definitely removes more than just standard rinse. I also use a citrus degreaser before hand which removes a surprising amount of dirt Yours and Yvan’s knowledge on the subject is great. Keep it up gents 👊🏼👍🏼
On one of my cars, I applied Turtle Wax Hybrid Solutions Pro Graphene Flex Spray Wax. It looks great, and is hydrophobic for months. What caught me by surprise is that when I dry the car after a wash with an air cannon, the heat of the air melts the wax, at which point it preserves small water spots and smudges. I have stopped using the air cannon as long as that product is my top coat. This forces me to use a microfiber towel to dry the car, when air would be preferable for being touchless and scratchless.
That's what I told you in your last tips & tricks french video . I'm happy you invited Yvan once again. I'm a rinseless fan because of Yvan, but I like bubble too, so, I go with the feeling. During summer, sometime 2 buckets, sometime rinseless. Winter, rinseless inside the garage
It's hard to not enjoy your video, you put time, hard work and you make me upgrade my techniques. You do a great job, and you take time to reply if we have question. We can see it's not only a work for you, it's a passion, just like Yvan :)
I use autoglym polar blast without pre rinse, then autoglym polar wash with foam gun, I then use a wash mitt on the foam but rinse the mitt between panels, then dry the car using show room shine which drys and enhances the car colour, then foam on autobrite ceramic foam sealer. A bit long winded but produces a beautiful finishes hopefully not scratching the car too much.
Appreciate the commentary. But at the end of the day, everyone has an opinion. I’ve been using a foam cannon and two bucket method for years with zero scratches and/or swirl marks. Nobody ever said the soaps main purpose was to clean the car, it’s designed to lubricate during the wash process. Matt from obsessed says it best...”this isn’t the only way to do it, it’s just the way that I found works best for me.”
Exactly Archie. And Yvan said it right at the end of this video: At the end of the day, there isn't really a right or wrong method. You use the method that works for you and which ever one makes you happy. I will continue to use my two bucket wash method as it has always worked for me. But I will start to incorporate the rinseless wash as a pre-treatment before rinsing the car at the very beginning. Let me first start by saying that conversations in the world of detailing are an important thing to have. We always learn new things as we go, and we need to keep pushing the boundaries of what is possible. Each person has their own methods they like to use, based on their experience and knowledge, and that is fine. Sometimes, you can incorporate a new tip or trick in your routine or regimen and that’s also fine. The traditional wash method vs rinseless car wash method has always been controversial. And I understand why. It’s hard to wrap your mind around a new method that basically takes away everything you were used to and throws that out the window, and uses new products and techniques that can seem “coming from left field” to many people. I have been using the traditional two bucket method for so long and it works for me. I know how to do it properly and my cars have never had scratches, swirls or marring. I also have a water softener system and can work in my garage, and have a great pressure washer and access to free flowing water, so my setup is perfect for that method. I wash my car twice weekly so the rinseless wash method does also work well in my case, as my car is never super dirty, but I don’t feel the need to switch to this method, as I already have a tried and true process. But the rinseless wash method does work well for those who use it often and use it properly. Many professional detailers use this method with great success. And with many cities and towns with heavy water restrictions, or no access to free flowing water, a rinseless wash can sometimes be the only solution. I get it. And I’m ok with that, as long as it’s done well and it works in that person’s world. Are there good points to the rinseless wash method? Yes absolutely. I love the idea of the pre-treatment on the vehicle using a rinseless wash in a pump sprayer, to help with encapsulating dirt and lubricating the surface before rinsing the car. At the end, Yvan said it best: There is no right or wrong way. If your method yields good results and it makes you happy, by all means, keep doing what you’re doing. There’s nothing wrong with that. Let’s just keep enjoying detailing our cars, as driving a clean car is so much better!
WOW he certainly had me watching the video. It really is an interesting topic. I could look into the waterless ranch for sure and Ian makes a valid point with it. Thanks for this Pan and Ian.
this feels like one of them occasions like in school, where you've been taught something for so many years, and a day before the exam you learn that it was bullshit and you were taught wrong ! haha, respect to Pan and the Dr for this amazing insight, will defo be trying this method out!
love ONR and the BRS and the shine achieved at the end of process -?undoubtedly saves a lot of effort - ( keep the 2 buckets for one either side of car each with 1 gal of ONR ! saves running around !! ( this was a useful tip from Yvan...). Bill Kerr in UK. 2003 Volvo XC 70 SE Lux 2.4 T
⬇️🔶 LINKS TO PRODUCTS MENTIONED IN THIS VIDEO ⬇️⬇️
🇺🇸 For people in USA:
IK pump sprayer: amzn.to/3edqbzv
Optimum No Rinse (ONR rinseless wash): amzn.to/2RCP3ZF
McKee’s 37 N-914 Rinseless Wash: bit.ly/3F7ntYL
Pro Blend bottle proportioner: bit.ly/3GAcMyA
The Rag Company Ultra Black Sponge: amzn.to/3tzHPDN
McKee's 37 Big Gold Sponge: amzn.to/3brnEkx
🇨🇦 For people in Canada:
IK pump sprayer: bit.ly/2ROCF9a
Optimum No Rinse (ONR rinseless wash): bit.ly/3v2Hb1Z
McKee’s 37 N-914 Rinseless Wash: bit.ly/2QGt3fT
The Rag Company Ultra Black Sponge: amzn.to/2QBOG1d
Optimum Big Red Sponge: bit.ly/3uOnLOJ
✅ My rinseless wash tutorial: th-cam.com/video/RP_BZ-jZBnY/w-d-xo.html
✅ Detailers Business Academy with Yvan Lacroix (TH-cam channel): th-cam.com/channels/iAirridYXEt5iQIZ4K9RmA.html
No ultra sponges available on Amazon in Canada . Do you know where else to get them?
@@tobyvincent6162 They have been selling a lot. I don't have any other places where to get them at the moment. But you can get the Big Red Sponge which works just as well (and was designed by Yvan Lacroix as well) here: amzn.to/34zkS95
Thank you Pan. I appreciate your help and enjoy your videos. I am learning a lot from you.
Since I just bought myself a new foam cannon, foam, soap, and a box filled of microfiber mitts and towels I’m gonna just keep doing the old school method. The wife might lose it if I switch it up already 😂😂
From the first time My MaxShine foam cannon and Adam’s Mega Foam arrived, I’ve been hooked. I love that process! Watching and listening to the foam hit the driveway. It works! No doubt.
I'm right there with you on this
Ya im going to just keep the same old method
Probably not bad idea to start with rinseless spray then wash regularly.
SAME LMAO
I would now like to see a video of this process on a dirty car
@BR-P-2001 // hes actually got a point. Tis the same process as traditional wash, but with a high tech sponge and you dont rinse after. Rinselss dont mean water less
A rinseless wash doesn't mean you don't rinse the car at the beginning, it simply means you don't need to rinse it at the end. Obviously on heavily soiled vehicles you would start with a thorough pre-treat and pre-rinse.
Let me first start by saying that conversations in the world of detailing are an important thing to have. We always learn new things as we go, and we need to keep pushing the boundaries of what is possible. Each person has their own methods they like to use, based on their experience and knowledge, and that is fine. Sometimes, you can incorporate a new tip or trick in your routine or regimen and that’s also fine.
The traditional wash method vs rinseless car wash method has always been controversial. And I understand why. It’s hard to wrap your mind around a new method that basically takes away everything you were used to and throws that out the window, and uses new products and techniques that can seem “coming from left field” to many people.
I have been using the traditional two bucket method for so long and it works for me. I know how to do it properly and my cars have never had scratches, swirls or marring. I also have a water softener system and can work in my garage, and have a great pressure washer and access to free flowing water, so my setup is perfect for that method. I wash my car twice weekly so the rinseless wash method does also work well in my case, as my car is never super dirty, but I don’t feel the need to switch to this method, as I already have a tried and true process.
But the rinseless wash method does work well for those who use it often and use it properly. Many professional detailers use this method with great success. And with many cities and towns with heavy water restrictions, or no access to free flowing water, a rinseless wash can sometimes be the only solution. I get it. And I’m ok with that, as long as it’s done well and it works in that person’s world.
Are there good points to the rinseless wash method? Yes absolutely. I love the idea of the pre-treatment on the vehicle using a rinseless wash in a pump sprayer, to help with encapsulating dirt and lubricating the surface before rinsing the car.
At the end, Yvan said it best: There is no right or wrong way. If your method yields good results and it makes you happy, by all means, keep doing what you’re doing. There’s nothing wrong with that.
Let’s just keep enjoying detailing our cars, as driving a clean car is so much better!
@@PanTheOrganizer wow! I just have no words, what a way to explain something, and its true what you say about incorporating new thing and leaving other. Great reflection
@@PanTheOrganizer For those of us who can't wash twice a week, what's a good way to deal with the pollen/dust that tends to collect on your finish? I would guess you'd recommend a rinseless but are there other options? I've sealed the paint using Turtle Wax Ice and Shine but I'm not sure what to do for instances like this. Thanks in advance for your advice!
Works fantastic.
Would love a rinseless wash walk through
There’s plenty of videos here on the Tube that’ll show you how to correctly do a rinseless wash.
I have a tutorial here: th-cam.com/video/RP_BZ-jZBnY/w-d-xo.html
Pan does that Tutorial that’s from 3yrs ago use this method
This is kinda confusing, he literally said pre rinse will scratch the car with the pressure washer , but towards the end he says to pre rinse?
@@hypecentric well if it’s too dirty for a regular rinseless wash you kind of have no choice but to pre rinse. If you watch tutorials they never pre rinse it’s just an option if the car is way too dirty
First off, Pan and Yvan both have wonderful personalities and I appreciate the help y’all provide (especially to a newbie). I’m an apartment dweller looking to get into detailing so rinseless tech is a God send for me! I think the beauty here is (although it seems comment sections and forums often forget) is Yvan isn’t saying this is the only way to wash- rather a new way! At the end of the day you need to enjoy washing your vehicle and if you find it more fun to have 7 chemicals, 3-4 buckets, grit guards, multiple mitts, foam, pressure washer and so on do it! I see it much like electric vs gas car. Electric is the new tech and can do things skeptics don’t like but if you like gas buy a gas car! Just understand eventually rinseless may be the standard much like foam became the standard! Thanks pan!
Correct. As long as you use safe washing and drying methods, the most important is to pick what works best for you and have fun doing it! I want to spread my passion for detailing and make people actually enjoy taking care of their cars. :)
Would like Pan to do a video on this suggested wash process.
I already have a popular tutorial on a rinseless car wash method here: th-cam.com/video/RP_BZ-jZBnY/w-d-xo.html
ONR is my go-to because my situation is different. My homeowner's association doesn't allow for car washing in my neighborhood (boo).
So my routine is 1) go to self car wash w/ pressure washer just for tire wheel treatment. 2) apply P&S brake buster to wheel and tire, scrub, rinse off 3) come home & apply ONR presoak in a pump spray , then ONR rinseless wash w/ big red sponge , then dry with turtle wax flex wax as a drying aid 4) finally, Chemical Guys VRP for my tires. Using tips and techniques that Pan has taught me. Thanks, Pan! Having fun and joy here in San Diego.
Thanks for sharing your experience Richard! And yes I agree, there are circumstances where a rinseless wash might be the only alternative so wash a person's car. As long as it's done right, no worries there.
I'm not convinced...
I'll personally continue to use my foam canon for a pre-wash, rinse, then refoam with soap and use the 2 buckets method.
To dry the car I'll use my leaf blower.
I do the same but use multiple chenille microfiber noodle pads so that a dirty pad never gets reused, until after it gets cleaned.
Let me first start by saying that conversations in the world of detailing are an important thing to have. We always learn new things as we go, and we need to keep pushing the boundaries of what is possible. Each person has their own methods they like to use, based on their experience and knowledge, and that is fine. Sometimes, you can incorporate a new tip or trick in your routine or regimen and that’s also fine.
The traditional wash method vs rinseless car wash method has always been controversial. And I understand why. It’s hard to wrap your mind around a new method that basically takes away everything you were used to and throws that out the window, and uses new products and techniques that can seem “coming from left field” to many people.
I have been using the traditional two bucket method for so long and it works for me. I know how to do it properly and my cars have never had scratches, swirls or marring. I also have a water softener system and can work in my garage, and have a great pressure washer and access to free flowing water, so my setup is perfect for that method. I wash my car twice weekly so the rinseless wash method does also work well in my case, as my car is never super dirty, but I don’t feel the need to switch to this method, as I already have a tried and true process.
But the rinseless wash method does work well for those who use it often and use it properly. Many professional detailers use this method with great success. And with many cities and towns with heavy water restrictions, or no access to free flowing water, a rinseless wash can sometimes be the only solution. I get it. And I’m ok with that, as long as it’s done well and it works in that person’s world.
Are there good points to the rinseless wash method? Yes absolutely. I love the idea of the pre-treatment on the vehicle using a rinseless wash in a pump sprayer, to help with encapsulating dirt and lubricating the surface before rinsing the car.
At the end, Yvan said it best: There is no right or wrong way. If your method yields good results and it makes you happy, by all means, keep doing what you’re doing. There’s nothing wrong with that.
Let’s just keep enjoying detailing our cars, as driving a clean car is so much better!
Please be careful about what you say. Yvan has over 40 years of experience in the detailing world and is well respected in the detailing community. He retired from Optimum a while ago, and has since been a freelance consultant for many different brands. He currently has no affiliations with any brand, so is brand independent. He has used his experience and knowledge to help many companies develop new tools and products, and that’s quite awesome in my opinion. But he isn’t selling anything here. Just proud to talk about things he is passionate for, and helped to develop. Any creator would be happy to do the same. No company paid him to talk about these products. It was simply a conversation to get people thinking. And it’s always a fun time when I get to spend a day with Yvan. I constantly learn new things.
@BR-P-2001 // 100% right 👍🏻
@@PanTheOrganizer Thank you for clarifying Pan. I just shared my method (which I think that many of us share).
Respect for your job and for bringing up great discussions 👍🏻👍🏻
Keep up the great content 😎👍🏻
I can only go off experience. My first coated vehicle 4 years ago was an F250 truck and my detailer introduced me to ONR and rinseless washing. It has served me well for the last 4 years and my truck, which gets heavily soiled, and has minimal scratching over 4 years. I cannot pre-rinse the entire car with ONR because of the climate (heat & sun) will cause it to dry quickly. I go panel to panel and spray ONR on each panel, and let it dwell for a period relative to the amount of soil on my truck, then start with my bucket & sponge. I will also say the big red sponge, or whichever color sponge you choose that is designed for rinseless washing is critical. I still prefer a designated “soap” for tire and rims due to the degreaser properties. I will also add, ONR has been one of the most effective window cleaners without leaving residue. Lastly, rinseless wash does lack the gloss, slickness & hydrophobic properties I prefer. Therefore, I do use spray toppers like bead maker & every so often I like to snow foam with Car Pro Lift to remove any of those toppers or to get ready for any decontamination. Go with works for you. I am simply acknowledging that regular rinseless washing has served me well for an extended period.
One question for Yvan: If polymers are supreme over soap, why do manufacturers add fragrance (I.e. Apple by McKee’s) to their chemistry? Before you say to add pleasantries for the user, isn’t the ultimate goal to take care of car paint and seems fragrances would introduce unnecessary residue into the polymer. Just an honest curious question.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
In the last few years I have been using ONR Wash and Wax and the Big Red Sponge as my way of doing maintenance washes for my family's daily drivers. I like that it in my situation I don't have to drag out all of the tools (buckets. pressure washer etc) to do a maintenance wash. I also apply some topper such as Opti-Seal every other wash or so.
I went to one of Yvans training classes over a year ago and it changed my life and business for the better. I was doing so many unnecessary steps and wasting so much time. Now I'm able to detail a car in a fraction of the time while using far less products and get better results. I'm alot more profitable and at the end of the day I have alot more energy.
Yes I would love to hear what are some things you changed?
I would also want to know...
Should make a video on that, sounds very interesting!
Thanks Nick
Dallas paint correction ahas a great video o this, If youre just rinsing the paint, and not contact washing, foaming indeed doesnt work any better. But if you are going to contact wash, it softens the dirt, reducing the risk of scratches.
Yess. Touch less washes don’t do anything but remove light dust but you’ll still need to do your normal contact wash.
I also will continue to use my traditional two bucket wash method with snow foam as a pre-wash too. I enjoy it and it has always worked for me. But it's nice to see other alternatives that when done right, can be useful for some people.
@@PanTheOrganizer so do you just foam first, no prerinse of the paint?
I will keep using my method. Which I show here: th-cam.com/video/xaQmB_qje_4/w-d-xo.html
But I will add a pre-treat step with a rinseless wash before pre-rinsing from now on. I like the idea of encapsulating dirt before rinsing.
Rinsless will most definitely not work on an heavily soiled car with bugs etc, but im not cancelling it out as they can be very good for light soiled vehicles. Personally i would still use a proper shampoo, pre washes and the two bucket method just as its been my go to way for over 20years. Great vid once again Paaaan keep it up.👍🏼
I'm with you on this!
I agree. This won't work on my Jeep after a day of offroading in mud.
@@timothybracken1728 actually I’m retired and don’t work for any company.
Let me first start by saying that conversations in the world of detailing are an important thing to have. We always learn new things as we go, and we need to keep pushing the boundaries of what is possible. Each person has their own methods they like to use, based on their experience and knowledge, and that is fine. Sometimes, you can incorporate a new tip or trick in your routine or regimen and that’s also fine.
The traditional wash method vs rinseless car wash method has always been controversial. And I understand why. It’s hard to wrap your mind around a new method that basically takes away everything you were used to and throws that out the window, and uses new products and techniques that can seem “coming from left field” to many people.
I have been using the traditional two bucket method for so long and it works for me. I know how to do it properly and my cars have never had scratches, swirls or marring. I also have a water softener system and can work in my garage, and have a great pressure washer and access to free flowing water, so my setup is perfect for that method. I wash my car twice weekly so the rinseless wash method does also work well in my case, as my car is never super dirty, but I don’t feel the need to switch to this method, as I already have a tried and true process.
But the rinseless wash method does work well for those who use it often and use it properly. Many professional detailers use this method with great success. And with many cities and towns with heavy water restrictions, or no access to free flowing water, a rinseless wash can sometimes be the only solution. I get it. And I’m ok with that, as long as it’s done well and it works in that person’s world.
Are there good points to the rinseless wash method? Yes absolutely. I love the idea of the pre-treatment on the vehicle using a rinseless wash in a pump sprayer, to help with encapsulating dirt and lubricating the surface before rinsing the car.
At the end, Yvan said it best: There is no right or wrong way. If your method yields good results and it makes you happy, by all means, keep doing what you’re doing. There’s nothing wrong with that.
Let’s just keep enjoying detailing our cars, as driving a clean car is so much better!
Please be careful about what you say. Yvan has over 40 years of experience in the detailing world and is well respected in the detailing community. He retired from Optimum a while ago, and has since been a freelance consultant for many different brands. He currently has no affiliations with any brand, so is brand independent. He has used his experience and knowledge to help many companies develop new tools and products, and that’s quite awesome in my opinion. But he isn’t selling anything here. Just proud to talk about things he is passionate for, and helped to develop. Any creator would be happy to do the same. No company paid him to talk about these products. It was simply a conversation to get people thinking. And it’s always a fun time when I get to spend a day with Yvan. I constantly learn new things.
I don’t think I’ve ever been this early. Gonna watch carefully, picking up my first car in an hour😍
congrats Man
Congrats 🎉🎊
congrats, what car is it?
@@anaikgill2937 it’s a 2013 volvo v40!
@@MadkillsYT 😂😂
I clicked expecting to relax and listen. My brain is going 100 mph and I love it. I think this may be my answer! Thanks Pan! This channel just keeps getting better.
It's nice to see positivity in listening to alternative methods and perhaps learning a thing or two, so thank you for that! I myself will continue to use my traditional wash method, as it has always worked well for me, but I understand that the rinseless wash if done properly is a great alternative for many people including many detailing professionals. I will incorporate the pre-treatment with a rinseless wash sprayed on the vehicle before the first rinse. I like that.
I kind of agree with Ivan regarding the probability of scratching the car with the 2 bucket method. I ceramic coated both my cars and I’ve been washing them using two bucket methods and applying Carpro Reload every month. However, I still notice very slight scratches even though I polished the paint on both cars to perfection before applying the ceramic coating. It seems even though the 2 bucket method is still the best way to properly wash a car and prevent scratches to the paint, there is still the possibility of slight dirt getting stuck on the wash mitt that still cause the scratches in the paint. I don’t think there is a “perfect method” of washing a car without leaving very minor scratches to the paint. I would like to see a video of your thoughts on using the sponge and a waterless wash compared to your current method of washing a vehicle. I still prefer the foam cannon and 2 buckets and in the winter time, if the car is not too dirty, I take my car through a touchless carwash to get the dirt off and then use the Ammo waterless wash system which works amazingly .
For anyone that has/uses a Worx Hydroshot for pre/Di rinse they now have a mist nozzle thats freaking AWESOME. Havnt used as a pre rinse yet but cant wait to try it out.
There goes the income for promoting selling soaps. LOL. I love his first point that soaps are soaked, they're all about the same. Which I'm finding. Interesting video
Let me first start by saying that conversations in the world of detailing are an important thing to have. We always learn new things as we go, and we need to keep pushing the boundaries of what is possible. Each person has their own methods they like to use, based on their experience and knowledge, and that is fine. Sometimes, you can incorporate a new tip or trick in your routine or regimen and that’s also fine.
The traditional wash method vs rinseless car wash method has always been controversial. And I understand why. It’s hard to wrap your mind around a new method that basically takes away everything you were used to and throws that out the window, and uses new products and techniques that can seem “coming from left field” to many people.
I have been using the traditional two bucket method for so long and it works for me. I know how to do it properly and my cars have never had scratches, swirls or marring. I also have a water softener system and can work in my garage, and have a great pressure washer and access to free flowing water, so my setup is perfect for that method. I wash my car twice weekly so the rinseless wash method does also work well in my case, as my car is never super dirty, but I don’t feel the need to switch to this method, as I already have a tried and true process.
But the rinseless wash method does work well for those who use it often and use it properly. Many professional detailers use this method with great success. And with many cities and towns with heavy water restrictions, or no access to free flowing water, a rinseless wash can sometimes be the only solution. I get it. And I’m ok with that, as long as it’s done well and it works in that person’s world.
Are there good points to the rinseless wash method? Yes absolutely. I love the idea of the pre-treatment on the vehicle using a rinseless wash in a pump sprayer, to help with encapsulating dirt and lubricating the surface before rinsing the car.
At the end, Yvan said it best: There is no right or wrong way. If your method yields good results and it makes you happy, by all means, keep doing what you’re doing. There’s nothing wrong with that.
Let’s just keep enjoying detailing our cars, as driving a clean car is so much better!
I blew at least $5000 last summer on supplies, pads, compounds etc. I don’t think My card is going to be reduced. Heheh.
Heheh you need to increase the limit! More videos are coming. :)
I don’t have a garage so I need to always flood the panel with water, pressure wash all the leaves and crud off car, contact wash (bugs), and dry with leaf blower. Ceramic coating my car has made the washing process much easier and less marring because nothing really sticks to surface anymore. Maybe the sponge/ONR in the winter months but rest of the year no way that will ever work in my situation.
I love P&S Pearl due to its versatility, lots of lubrication, and for the price its amazing!
Really, really great video. When I first started detailing just a wee bit ago in 2018, I was looking to learn, and turned to TH-cam, and by chance the first video I stumbled on was a TRC video with Levi and Yvan , and of all things they were doing this crazy thing called a rinsless wash with this three letter product. I was huh???? Who on the heck who are these guys. I didn't dismiss it, but I didn't embrace it. I watch all kinds of washing videos. It took about a year of taking in Yvan's videos, taking in everything in, and I started doing rinseless washes. I'm a fan of McK's N-914 and SiO2 rinseless. Next step is to get a steamer to assist with winter rinsless washes.
Thanks Yvan and Pan for laying it out on easy to understand terms.
Thanks Jay!
As mentioned, would love to see either the "new" steps written down in your description or now a new video highlighting the new process.
It's not a new process. I already have a tutorial on a rinseless wash here: th-cam.com/video/RP_BZ-jZBnY/w-d-xo.html
Let me first start by saying that conversations in the world of detailing are an important thing to have. We always learn new things as we go, and we need to keep pushing the boundaries of what is possible. Each person has their own methods they like to use, based on their experience and knowledge, and that is fine. Sometimes, you can incorporate a new tip or trick in your routine or regimen and that’s also fine.
The traditional wash method vs rinseless car wash method has always been controversial. And I understand why. It’s hard to wrap your mind around a new method that basically takes away everything you were used to and throws that out the window, and uses new products and techniques that can seem “coming from left field” to many people.
I have been using the traditional two bucket method for so long and it works for me. I know how to do it properly and my cars have never had scratches, swirls or marring. I also have a water softener system and can work in my garage, and have a great pressure washer and access to free flowing water, so my setup is perfect for that method. I wash my car twice weekly so the rinseless wash method does also work well in my case, as my car is never super dirty, but I don’t feel the need to switch to this method, as I already have a tried and true process.
But the rinseless wash method does work well for those who use it often and use it properly. Many professional detailers use this method with great success. And with many cities and towns with heavy water restrictions, or no access to free flowing water, a rinseless wash can sometimes be the only solution. I get it. And I’m ok with that, as long as it’s done well and it works in that person’s world.
Are there good points to the rinseless wash method? Yes absolutely. I love the idea of the pre-treatment on the vehicle using a rinseless wash in a pump sprayer, to help with encapsulating dirt and lubricating the surface before rinsing the car.
At the end, Yvan said it best: There is no right or wrong way. If your method yields good results and it makes you happy, by all means, keep doing what you’re doing. There’s nothing wrong with that.
Let’s just keep enjoying detailing our cars, as driving a clean car is so much better!
@@PanTheOrganizer I never saw that video, thanks! I guess because it was 3 x years ago, it would not have existed since foam canon is old technology in 2021!
Regardless of your choice of chemicals as the lubricating interface between your wash media and surfaces to be cleaned, the Gary Dean method is the only one that uses very little water and doesn't introduce the wash media back to your source bucket, nor does it dilute your solution. The GDWM can also be applied to traditional soaps, you just have to rinse off.
I can see from the screen, you are investing a lot of money in to your camera. really hard works PAN. 👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks! The intro was filmed using my new Sony A7S III high end 4K camera, and the rest of the video filmed with my new DJI Pocket 2 (4K handheld gimbal camera).
Never understood why people use the 2 bucket method. As mentioned, not only does it dilute - but it’s twice the work with twice the buckets & twice the water. I put 8-10 of TRC Eaglet 500’s in a 2 gallon soap mixture. Each rag does 2 panels as they are 2 sided. Once each side is used, grab a new rag from the bucket. There is 0 chance of contamination, uses less water and I just find it much, much easier. Once done, they all go in the wash and ready for next time.
I am also glad to see someone finally mention that foam cannons are a waste of time. Work smarter, not harder people lol
This rinseless has me intrigued however, always interested in a more efficient (easier) way. The old saying may be true here however. The last days of old technology can sometimes be better than the first days of new technology.
Rinseless washes such as ONR have been around for over 15 years now. It is far from new technology. It’s widely used by professional detailers, and slowly being adopted by enthusiasts.
@@Detailers-Business-Academy awesome, I’m going to try it out 👍🏻
love the video...
I would love to see a full video with the whole process on a lightly soiled car vs a heavy dirty car and compare. i do not use a 2 bucket method, but I use 6 wash mitts/pads and never have wash induced scratch issues.
I think the social media driven detailing industry majorly overstates the possibility of scratching or marring your paint by simply washing and/or drying it. You dry your car with a microfiber drying towel? Heaven forbid, that will scratch up your car. You need to make sure you're using a drying aid and an air drying method!
@@fillflashdetailer8838 hahaha 100% true
New concepts, new ideas, new techniques, new technology all for the betterment of our cars... Why not? Everything evolves and that is the reason we do things nowadays. All for the betterment of everything and everyone! Pan and Ivan, I appreciate this a lot!
Thanks Mark! That's the spirit. Open mind to at least hear of new alternatives. I still will continue to use my traditional 2 bucket wash method, as it has always worked for me, but we know that rinseless washes work well if done correctly and many people can find the use for them as well.
Please do a demo of this! I'm a learn by seeing kind of person unfortunately. Awesome channel sir
Here's my rinseless wash tutorial: th-cam.com/video/RP_BZ-jZBnY/w-d-xo.html
I live in an apartment building and my car is parked underground. so a rinseless wash works for me. However I find it harder to keep the car clean and do a rinseless wash during our Canadian winters because of the road salt and grime.
This is a very interesting methodology. I am sure there are workarounds to still using the traditional method (I personally like Larry Cosilla's way of having multiple towels on a bucket and discarding after every panel) but this seems so much easier. Time to pick up some ONR!
I love how open to different perspectives you are, Pan! Great vid by you and Yvan. I like washing with thick foam and two buckets as I learned from your videos Pan. In Pan we trust! So as you continue to learn and share with us I will continue to learn. Thanks for this video!
Thanks for the kind words! I appreciate it!
I guess that method is good, for garage kept cars that don’t get really dirty. I still prefer the rinse, foam, rinse, hand wash and leaf blower method then multiple towels to full dry. But every one is different, just like he said what ever you enjoy 🙂.
Exactly. Let me first start by saying that conversations in the world of detailing are an important thing to have. We always learn new things as we go, and we need to keep pushing the boundaries of what is possible. Each person has their own methods they like to use, based on their experience and knowledge, and that is fine. Sometimes, you can incorporate a new tip or trick in your routine or regimen and that’s also fine.
The traditional wash method vs rinseless car wash method has always been controversial. And I understand why. It’s hard to wrap your mind around a new method that basically takes away everything you were used to and throws that out the window, and uses new products and techniques that can seem “coming from left field” to many people.
I have been using the traditional two bucket method for so long and it works for me. I know how to do it properly and my cars have never had scratches, swirls or marring. I also have a water softener system and can work in my garage, and have a great pressure washer and access to free flowing water, so my setup is perfect for that method. I wash my car twice weekly so the rinseless wash method does also work well in my case, as my car is never super dirty, but I don’t feel the need to switch to this method, as I already have a tried and true process.
But the rinseless wash method does work well for those who use it often and use it properly. Many professional detailers use this method with great success. And with many cities and towns with heavy water restrictions, or no access to free flowing water, a rinseless wash can sometimes be the only solution. I get it. And I’m ok with that, as long as it’s done well and it works in that person’s world.
Are there good points to the rinseless wash method? Yes absolutely. I love the idea of the pre-treatment on the vehicle using a rinseless wash in a pump sprayer, to help with encapsulating dirt and lubricating the surface before rinsing the car.
At the end, Yvan said it best: There is no right or wrong way. If your method yields good results and it makes you happy, by all means, keep doing what you’re doing. There’s nothing wrong with that.
Let’s just keep enjoying detailing our cars, as driving a clean car is so much better!
@@PanTheOrganizer Well stated, it’s always good to learn about new technologies in car care, that’s why I’m here 🙂.
But I do enjoy foaming up my car 😂.
I also enjoy foaming and will continue to do so! Heck it's in all my videos! Even Yvan says I'm the foam master! :)
This is one of your very best shows yet. Your guest gives a most excellent presentation, and I really appreciate this Pan. I like his detailing of the actual chemical mechanisms that underly the reasons for the different methods. You're my favorite on this subject.
Thanks for the feedback feedback James! I appreciate it. I like sharing all sorts of different topics with my viewers as some people need good alternative choices sometimes.
Cheers!
QUESTION: What about using a LEAF BLOWER for touchless drying?
I'll be posting on my channel, my detailing routine soon. And I use a very high powered cordless leaf blower.
My best investment yet! What a difference it makes. Pan has some great videos on them.
@@johnhoey4605 I originally used the California Water blade WAYYYYY In the days but then discovered it scratched.. Then went to the drying towels and eventually, they caused scratches... Then went to leaf blower drying and never went back...
Dry the car in literally 5 minutes or so completely dry with no waterspots and no touching of the surface
@@thecamarogarage not sure why it took me so long to land on the leaf blower thing; oh wait, I know. Thanks, Pan.
I'm also using a leaf blower for many years.
With a good ceramic coating the water just slides away.
My wife allowed me🤣 to buy a Pro Master blower to dry my car, no drying towls anymore.
Well, I'm not a spring chicken anymore, and I have me and the wife's car to wash so, I really like the rinse less wash method. Its super versatile, effective, and it saves a lot of time.
Pan and Ivan Dropping knowledge BOMBS :)
Thanks for watching Rony!
I've got a ton of respect for Yvan. While I'm not fully on board with rinseless washing, I have incorporated some of his methods into my wash routine. I first clean the wheels, then pre-soak all the paint & glass with an iK Sprayer with ONR before my initial pressure washing step. After jet washing all the ONR off I then foam the car and follow with a 2 bucket method with TRC's other great wash media, the Cyclone. I do find that pre-saturating and soaking the paint with ONR does get off more embedded contaminants with my first initial jet wash.
Exactly! It's all about hearing what else is out there and perhaps incorporating new tips and tricks to our tried and tested methods. I for one, also incorporated the pre-treat with a rinseless wash now. Helps encapsulate the dirt before rinsing the car.
I use a leaf blower on high to dry my car. Works great.
Precisely. I like Pan, but this video is a bit ridiculous.
So do I. A contactless dry method.
I have a car dryer but I find that while removing the water it also transforms the drops intro spray that dry a lot faster on the surfaces. So I get micro water spots, or spray spots.
Hi Greg. Let me first start by saying that conversations in the world of detailing are an important thing to have. We always learn new things as we go, and we need to keep pushing the boundaries of what is possible. Each person has their own methods they like to use, based on their experience and knowledge, and that is fine. Sometimes, you can incorporate a new tip or trick in your routine or regimen and that’s also fine.
The traditional wash method vs rinseless car wash method has always been controversial. And I understand why. It’s hard to wrap your mind around a new method that basically takes away everything you were used to and throws that out the window, and uses new products and techniques that can seem “coming from left field” to many people.
I have been using the traditional two bucket method for so long and it works for me. I know how to do it properly and my cars have never had scratches, swirls or marring. I also have a water softener system and can work in my garage, and have a great pressure washer and access to free flowing water, so my setup is perfect for that method. I wash my car twice weekly so the rinseless wash method does also work well in my case, as my car is never super dirty, but I don’t feel the need to switch to this method, as I already have a tried and true process.
But the rinseless wash method does work well for those who use it often and use it properly. Many professional detailers use this method with great success. And with many cities and towns with heavy water restrictions, or no access to free flowing water, a rinseless wash can sometimes be the only solution. I get it. And I’m ok with that, as long as it’s done well and it works in that person’s world.
Are there good points to the rinseless wash method? Yes absolutely. I love the idea of the pre-treatment on the vehicle using a rinseless wash in a pump sprayer, to help with encapsulating dirt and lubricating the surface before rinsing the car.
At the end, Yvan said it best: There is no right or wrong way. If your method yields good results and it makes you happy, by all means, keep doing what you’re doing. There’s nothing wrong with that.
Let’s just keep enjoying detailing our cars, as driving a clean car is so much better!
@@shuycg I find that a "full" dry with my EGO580, followed by a quick application of bead maker works beautifully.
I've been rinseless washing my car about 90% of the time with ONR the past year or so and find it very fast and convenient. It is particularly helpful in the winter where I can wash both of my cars in my unheated garage in about an hour or so.
Do you pre-rinse? I don't have a water source in my garage and in Michigan winter, my external faucet and house will freeze in minutes. Will I scratch my paint with all the road salt, dirty snow/ice if I don't pre-rinse?
@@TheEnder82 Yes, I definitely pre-rinse, using ONR (I also have no heat in my garage and no running water either, but my garage temp is usually above freezing as it is well insulated and attached to the house). I make a 4-gallon bucket using warm water. Fill about half into an inexpensive sprayer I purchased from a big box store and generously spray down the car. Then I rinseless wash from the bucket using the multiple mitt method (about 5-6 per car). If there are areas with especially heavy salt I will make two buckets and fill the sprayer twice, using two gallons in the sprayer and two in a bucket. My garage floor is a mess until I get a warm enough day to haul out a hose and spray it down.
Thanks. I'll give this a try next winter.
I use beer as the foam, lime and salt after to get a good shine. My wifebeater to dry it.
I do rinseless on my coated vehicles and vehicles I have coated in my detailing business. For really dirty vehicles, I will do a decon wash with the pressure washer and follow up with rinseless.
I love washing the car in the rain. Soft water rinse with the help of the hose spray gun set to shower.
Stay safe guys.😄
The idea with a waterless wash no rinse that he is not dragging any dirt with his black sponge is ridiculous!!! If you don't want to scratch your car don't wash it!! Seriously there is no way to not drag any dirt when you are washing your car!!! But, by using your favorite way and rinse the car first and foam it and then after the final rinse blow dry it the scratches will be microscope!!! He's just trying to sell his ideas and I respect that!! We all have our own ways but, I am always looking for new ways to care for my cars!!! Nothing wrong with listening to a different way of doing things and then deciding if that might be good for me!!! Hope all that put this video together are all safe and well!! Thanks for the video!!! Appreciate it!!!
He isn't selling anything William, just to be clear. Let me first start by saying that conversations in the world of detailing are an important thing to have. We always learn new things as we go, and we need to keep pushing the boundaries of what is possible. Each person has their own methods they like to use, based on their experience and knowledge, and that is fine. Sometimes, you can incorporate a new tip or trick in your routine or regimen and that’s also fine.
The traditional wash method vs rinseless car wash method has always been controversial. And I understand why. It’s hard to wrap your mind around a new method that basically takes away everything you were used to and throws that out the window, and uses new products and techniques that can seem “coming from left field” to many people.
I have been using the traditional two bucket method for so long and it works for me. I know how to do it properly and my cars have never had scratches, swirls or marring. I also have a water softener system and can work in my garage, and have a great pressure washer and access to free flowing water, so my setup is perfect for that method. I wash my car twice weekly so the rinseless wash method does also work well in my case, as my car is never super dirty, but I don’t feel the need to switch to this method, as I already have a tried and true process.
But the rinseless wash method does work well for those who use it often and use it properly. Many professional detailers use this method with great success. And with many cities and towns with heavy water restrictions, or no access to free flowing water, a rinseless wash can sometimes be the only solution. I get it. And I’m ok with that, as long as it’s done well and it works in that person’s world.
Are there good points to the rinseless wash method? Yes absolutely. I love the idea of the pre-treatment on the vehicle using a rinseless wash in a pump sprayer, to help with encapsulating dirt and lubricating the surface before rinsing the car.
At the end, Yvan said it best: There is no right or wrong way. If your method yields good results and it makes you happy, by all means, keep doing what you’re doing. There’s nothing wrong with that.
Let’s just keep enjoying detailing our cars, as driving a clean car is so much better!
Great video pan and Yvan!!
I’ve been doing rinseless wash or waterless wash for quite sometime now since I live in an apartment, I had to find a way to clean our cars the safest way possible.
A lot of people shy away from it because the potential of scratching the paint. It will if it’s not done properly even on a 2 bucket wash it could still scratch.
I Really find rinseless or waterless wash to be time saver and conserve a lot of water. Less water, less mess.
Thanks to both of you for bringing this up and to enlighten detailers out there.
PS I think I cracked the code on this on how to properly do it without scratching the paint. Haha
Thanks for chiming in.
Thanks for watching!
This was an incredibly educational and informative video and very well explained. The facts are the facts. I’ve continued to use the same methods (old school) for over 30 years. Think I need to change it up and toss my chamois, absorber, sponge, and SOAP! Very well done video !
Glad you enjoyed it!
Pan this guy makes complete sense. I’ve been on the edge of going rinsless. Now I know for sure I’ll be going rinsless!!!
Yesterday I was waiting in a shopping plaza for my son to be finished with karate and I used n914 rinseless and washed my car. So easy and nice. Big red sponge and a drying towel too.
I just switched my whole mobile business to rinse less. 2 weeks in and I’m 100% sold
I used Optimum several times per label directions. I did not like the scratching sound made while washing. I went back to the method somewhat criticized in this video.
Would be interesting to see a durability test of a single product using different wash methods.
everything Ivan is saying I've been wondering for many years...I've questioned the 2 bucket method, the foam cannon thing too... he makes total sense.
This method takes the fun out of cleaning your car in my opinion I'll stick to what I'm doing now!
Let me first start by saying that conversations in the world of detailing are an important thing to have. We always learn new things as we go, and we need to keep pushing the boundaries of what is possible. Each person has their own methods they like to use, based on their experience and knowledge, and that is fine. Sometimes, you can incorporate a new tip or trick in your routine or regimen and that’s also fine.
The traditional wash method vs rinseless car wash method has always been controversial. And I understand why. It’s hard to wrap your mind around a new method that basically takes away everything you were used to and throws that out the window, and uses new products and techniques that can seem “coming from left field” to many people.
I have been using the traditional two bucket method for so long and it works for me. I know how to do it properly and my cars have never had scratches, swirls or marring. I also have a water softener system and can work in my garage, and have a great pressure washer and access to free flowing water, so my setup is perfect for that method. I wash my car twice weekly so the rinseless wash method does also work well in my case, as my car is never super dirty, but I don’t feel the need to switch to this method, as I already have a tried and true process.
But the rinseless wash method does work well for those who use it often and use it properly. Many professional detailers use this method with great success. And with many cities and towns with heavy water restrictions, or no access to free flowing water, a rinseless wash can sometimes be the only solution. I get it. And I’m ok with that, as long as it’s done well and it works in that person’s world.
Are there good points to the rinseless wash method? Yes absolutely. I love the idea of the pre-treatment on the vehicle using a rinseless wash in a pump sprayer, to help with encapsulating dirt and lubricating the surface before rinsing the car.
At the end, Yvan said it best: There is no right or wrong way. If your method yields good results and it makes you happy, by all means, keep doing what you’re doing. There’s nothing wrong with that.
Let’s just keep enjoying detailing our cars, as driving a clean car is so much better!
👍🏼
@@PanTheOrganizer fiou! Moi qui commence a m'équiper pour laver mes autos comme un pro, je pensais que j'avais tout acheté pour rien!
Pas dutout. Hehe. Je vais continuer à utiliser ma méthode de lavage traditionnelle car ça l'a toujours fonctionné pour moi. Le lavage sans rinçage est une bonne alternative (si bien faite) pour certaines personnes n'ayant peut-être pas accès à l'eau aussi facilement.
@@PanTheOrganizer I totally agree, new methods and technology are being founded quickly and I am very open minded to new products and methods but for me spending an hour and a half cleaning my car is like, to some, watching a movie and escaping the world for a brief moment. This cuts the time in half so as I am a professional detailer I totally agree this will help my business but on a personal level it doesn't suit me or my needs. Like you said it works differently for different situations and personal requirements 😁
I've been using onr on a 12 years old black BMW for the last couple years. It's never looked better!! The more you use it, the better it gets
Love when you spend time with Yvan. Awesome video Pan!!
Thanks!
I was trying really hard to focus but that Porsche. Anyway, I really appreciate the scientific approach broken down and made easy. Good informative video.
Thanks!
I hope I’m not the only one that says “Let’s go ahead and start the show” with Pan every time I watch his videos..
Lol I say it in my head 😂
Guilty
Only part of Pan's videos I don't like!
as for me, the iconic intro song stuck singing in my head. 😆😅
This is fascinating. I have more foam cannons, soaps, snow foams, buckets, etc. than I can count, but I'm enormously interested in completely replacing the methods I've used for years with this rinseless wash process. Yvan is extremely convincing.
Of course, use common sense. If the vehicle is caked in layers of thick mud and dirt, you would pre-rinse the vehicle first. Rinseless wash doesn't mean you never rinse. It just means you don't need to rinse at the end of the process.
All I can say is this blew my mind 🤯
My jaw was on the floor. I was like “F!, I just bought that pressure washer/foam cannon and mega foam!” Lol.
Just found this episode. First thing your intro is flawless, then you add the drama and you're music is really catchy. This was a great video
Hehe thanks Sam!
OK, I feel like I read the book and now I want to see the movie. No doubt you have a guest in Ivan who is an expert, but we only got to see about 30 seconds of actual washing, and 99% of the clip was a (mostly helpful) lecture. Just not as engaging or helpful as doing the job and talking through it. I know you have a rinseless tutorial with some actual demo, but it's a different narrative from Yvan's.
I feel as though this should be re-shot in the style of most of your videos, with the dialog and hands-on at the same time. This is an important and universal issue (not everyone waxes or coats, but everyone washes) and his thoughts are way different than conventional. Maybe rinseless is simple, but I for one would like to see a real-world, average-dirty car get done.
The only other thing left unsaid in the video is what about rinseless and an air cannon? That's all I ever use to dry. Thanks for playing.
That's because I already have a rinseless wash tutorial here: th-cam.com/video/RP_BZ-jZBnY/w-d-xo.html
This video was meant more as a discussion on the topic. A fun one to have as well.
Thankyou Pan and Ivan for taking the time to make this video. As you said at the very beginning “it may cause controversy” but that’s good. It gets people talking about it.
Products and Techniques evolve, and it’s great to see a fellow TH-camr breaking down the boundaries with new ideas.
I bet you both sat down and thought “should we upload this?”
Well done and thanks again for some great thought provoking content. 👏
I like to have different discussions on many topics. Talking about rinseless washes always seems to stir up controversy. I mean I get it, as many people just aren't used to throwing away everything they knew about a method and having to adopt new products, techniques, etc.
Let me first start by saying that conversations in the world of detailing are an important thing to have. We always learn new things as we go, and we need to keep pushing the boundaries of what is possible. Each person has their own methods they like to use, based on their experience and knowledge, and that is fine. Sometimes, you can incorporate a new tip or trick in your routine or regimen and that’s also fine.
The traditional wash method vs rinseless car wash method has always been controversial. And I understand why. It’s hard to wrap your mind around a new method that basically takes away everything you were used to and throws that out the window, and uses new products and techniques that can seem “coming from left field” to many people.
I have been using the traditional two bucket method for so long and it works for me. I know how to do it properly and my cars have never had scratches, swirls or marring. I also have a water softener system and can work in my garage, and have a great pressure washer and access to free flowing water, so my setup is perfect for that method. I wash my car twice weekly so the rinseless wash method does also work well in my case, as my car is never super dirty, but I don’t feel the need to switch to this method, as I already have a tried and true process.
But the rinseless wash method does work well for those who use it often and use it properly. Many professional detailers use this method with great success. And with many cities and towns with heavy water restrictions, or no access to free flowing water, a rinseless wash can sometimes be the only solution. I get it. And I’m ok with that, as long as it’s done well and it works in that person’s world.
Are there good points to the rinseless wash method? Yes absolutely. I love the idea of the pre-treatment on the vehicle using a rinseless wash in a pump sprayer, to help with encapsulating dirt and lubricating the surface before rinsing the car.
At the end, Yvan said it best: There is no right or wrong way. If your method yields good results and it makes you happy, by all means, keep doing what you’re doing. There’s nothing wrong with that.
Let’s just keep enjoying detailing our cars, as driving a clean car is so much better!
@@PanTheOrganizer Its the same stuff just evolved, dont try to make it better than it seems to be
Pan: Is that controversy knocking on the door? Is that drama entering the building?
Comment section: Hold my beer
:)
As someone with a degree in chemistry he is absolutely right. That being said don’t just chuck your soaps you can mix your process up, which gyeon wet coat would allow you to use soap rinse while wet spray protection/rinse and blow, also if you have multiple mitts use one side the other side per panel and that mitt is done. He’s absolutely correct microfiber holds onto dirt and honestly I have tried to get them clean by hand without a machine and couldn’t accomplish it. This guy knows his stuff but with enough practice and thought behind your process, you can make almost any “product” safe, but not every method is safe 👍
Correct. There are many good ways to get a good wash (or any other detailing step) but it's all in the technique and how you do things. Safe washing and drying methods are key.
Thanks for watching!
Loving these funny intros Pan. Laughing each time I open a video these days. Also LOVE seeing this car in your videos now. Gorgeous.
Glad you like them!
I’ve used the Chemical Guys waterless car wash for years and they recommend using microfiber cloths to wipe down the dirt. Works well on rims and tires I use it in the winter in the garage & for me I like it. But I agree with Ivan about the scratches when you dry the vehicle.
Thanks for sharing. Just don't confuse a rinseless wash with a waterless wash. Two different things.
@@PanTheOrganizer yup, I have recently switched to the ONR system. Excellent product and excellent results!
I made the switch to rinseless about five years ago and it was the best detailing related decision I've ever made. Foam cannons are now just for therapy.
"is that drama now entering the building ?" 😂
:)
There's just no arguing with the godfather of detailing lol recently started using my onr as a rinseless wash (main purpose of buying was for clay lube) and I'm impressed how much time it saves! Thank you gentlemen!!
Thanks for watching Stephen!
Is it weird that instead of podcasts or radio stations, I listen to your videos (not watch =P ) in the car while commuting? hm.. HI YVAN!
Hello Joseph
I had good success with rinseless wash. I actually do a slight different method. I would put a some of the product in a spray bottle. Spray the section first let it dwell then use my Mitt that is in the rinseless soap. After using both sides I will plug it to the rinse and rub it against the grates. Squeeze out water then back in the other bucket.
But I found it a great substitute when I dont feel pulling out the garden hoose.
Two rinseless washes I have used are Chemical guys and Opti coat one.
I have used the rinseless on our work vehicles as well as my mustang.
Yes good point Tony. I had also tried a variant of the rinseless wash on my previous BMW in this video: th-cam.com/video/DxBdWQ2k9Tw/w-d-xo.html
But I do the majority of my washes using my tried and tested 2 bucket wash as in this video: th-cam.com/video/9QWk0ZFb6_I/w-d-xo.html
Nothing better than being early to a 🖐️ PAAAN 🖐️ De Organizer Video
Pan thé man does it again!
I also like his "let's start de show"
Thanks guys!
@@PanTheOrganizerYou're Welcome Pan
That dude is too smart . I’ve been doing it Wrong , what Yvan say’s makes sense.
Looks amazing, possible you doing a demo sometime soon if the whole ‘rinse free’ wash and product reviews that would be up to date?? 😀
I have a rinseless wash tutorial here: th-cam.com/video/RP_BZ-jZBnY/w-d-xo.html
@@PanTheOrganizer 👍😀
Just using a waterless wash works for me when the car is not too dirty!! Sometimes I finish with a good spray on and wipe off detailer!
Your intro's are classic 😎👌🏽
Glad you like them!
honestly a hybrid is always the way to go. there's no absolutes in this world. If car is very dirty, i will prerinse with rinseless wash, then hose/pressure wash off, then do rinseless wash. I also live in an apartment so I don't have the luxury of a hose. Rinseless wash is also eco-friendly! give mother earth some love
Good points Jolie! I will continue to use my traditional two bucket wash method as it has always worked well for me, but I understand the need for some to have an alternative method. If done right, the rinseless wash is a good method too. I will incorporate the pre-treatment using the rinseless wash though. I love the idea of encapsulating dirt before pressure washing the surface to pre-rinse.
This was more a fun discussion to get people thinking about alternatives when needed.
@@PanTheOrganizer yea def there's no "right" way. The encapsulating of dirt definitely is awesome!
I NEVER dry my car with anything except a dedicated leaf blower.
Same!
Same
Same
@@shatz72 I needed cordless, so went with an Ego
EGO makes a 650 CFM blower that will practically jump out of one's hands in turbo mode - makes for some scary fast drying !
Additional thought-provoking comments as to whether or not foaming your car is worth it. Reminds me of the never-ending discussion on the Dodge forum about catch cans. Do they do anything... probably. Are they necessary... probably not. That said, I use CG Honeydew through a foam cannon and have a Billet Tech catch can. I *think* both are a net plus, so I'm happy. Thanks for another great post, Pan. Always love the scientific angle from Ivan!
Thanks Ken! Yeah there are always heated topics in any field, and detailing is no exception. I think discussions are important to be had and we need to keep trying and testing new things. I know I love it. As long as discussions stay civilized, it's always nice to share opinions.
I will continue to use my traditional two bucket wash method, but I understand that if done well, the rinseless wash is a great alternative for people who might need such a method especially in a world where many cities are going nuts with water bans and restrictions.
Thanks , it’s always fun to look at alternatives, and try new things. Rinseless washing is far from new for professional detailers, and making inroads with enthusiasts.
Pan,please make a video with that new technique 🙂❤️
I already did a rinseless tutorial here: th-cam.com/video/RP_BZ-jZBnY/w-d-xo.html
@@PanTheOrganizer Thank you ❤️
I concur with a lot of the comments. I would like to see a demo of a rinseless wash. Seeing how the process is done would be great. Otherwise thank you for this video. Your site is very informative.
I made a rinseless wash tutorial a few years ago here: th-cam.com/video/RP_BZ-jZBnY/w-d-xo.html
Don’t wash your car with microfibre cloth , just use this $30 sponge I helped design, yeah ok lol 😂
I call BS until they actually present facts from scientist to back up this claim. We all know Yvan promotes ONR and other products so it sounds to me like a sales pitch to use those products.
@@josejpadilla5928 I think it might work on a light dust , but the tried and tested prewash foam and 2 bucket method has great results for me
Let me first start by saying that conversations in the world of detailing are an important thing to have. We always learn new things as we go, and we need to keep pushing the boundaries of what is possible. Each person has their own methods they like to use, based on their experience and knowledge, and that is fine. Sometimes, you can incorporate a new tip or trick in your routine or regimen and that’s also fine.
The traditional wash method vs rinseless car wash method has always been controversial. And I understand why. It’s hard to wrap your mind around a new method that basically takes away everything you were used to and throws that out the window, and uses new products and techniques that can seem “coming from left field” to many people.
I have been using the traditional two bucket method for so long and it works for me. I know how to do it properly and my cars have never had scratches, swirls or marring. I also have a water softener system and can work in my garage, and have a great pressure washer and access to free flowing water, so my setup is perfect for that method. I wash my car twice weekly so the rinseless wash method does also work well in my case, as my car is never super dirty, but I don’t feel the need to switch to this method, as I already have a tried and true process.
But the rinseless wash method does work well for those who use it often and use it properly. Many professional detailers use this method with great success. And with many cities and towns with heavy water restrictions, or no access to free flowing water, a rinseless wash can sometimes be the only solution. I get it. And I’m ok with that, as long as it’s done well and it works in that person’s world.
Are there good points to the rinseless wash method? Yes absolutely. I love the idea of the pre-treatment on the vehicle using a rinseless wash in a pump sprayer, to help with encapsulating dirt and lubricating the surface before rinsing the car.
At the end, Yvan said it best: There is no right or wrong way. If your method yields good results and it makes you happy, by all means, keep doing what you’re doing. There’s nothing wrong with that.
Let’s just keep enjoying detailing our cars, as driving a clean car is so much better!
@@PanTheOrganizer I think for a lightly soiled car it would be great, not so convinced on winter road film , Canada and Scotland are quite similar in weather 😂, Pan ,you and Jon from forensic detailing are my go to guys and both of you have cost me £hundreds over the years ( not telling my wife)
By the way I’m loving the new Porsche, I got one of my dream cars last year Mercedes E400 convertible and have CarPro Finest Reserve on it
Keep up the great work my friend
Thank you Kenny! I appreciate it. :). Congrats on the Merk!! That's one great car as well! What color is yours?
I'm intrigued by this new technology and I'm excited to give it a try. I ordered some supplies mentioned and will try it out on my two vehicles and see how it goes. In the winter time, the weather is not great in the Pacific Northwest and getting out a hose with running water isn't the best solution. My garage has no floor drain nor does it have finished mold resistant paint. This should give me more options and accomplish a wash in less time.
If you have access to water, I would still recommend the traditional two bucket wash method.
But if you have no easy access to water or live in areas with water bans/restrictions, and the vehicle isn’t too dirty, a rinseless wash is a good alternative assuming you do it well. I have a recent rinseless wash tutorial here: th-cam.com/video/p58Y5qRd3OU/w-d-xo.html
Pan needs a second microphone so we can hear him like his guest
Yeah I'm still figuring out the new gear and multiple people type videos. As this was all done the same day, I couldn't readjust until I saw the footage during editing. It seems the DJI Pocket 2 won't pick up voices of many people as well when I connect the wireless lav mic kit to it for the main talking person. If I hadn't used that wireless mic, and just used the onboard microphones of the DJI, it would have picked up both people better. Live and learn.
I love ONR and use it all winter long on the cars in the garage. I do use soap and foam on my coated car, just because I use that companies products that match the coating. They are both fun and enjoyable to use, but ONR is really impressive for its chemistry and ability to clean for sure.
Keep it is mind never use car wash machine (automatic car wash)
Sounds nice, but too extreme for all of us who bought a car to use it.
I’ll look forward to analyze this proposed method, time and dollar wise. Thanks Pan, as always.
Let me first start by saying that conversations in the world of detailing are an important thing to have. We always learn new things as we go, and we need to keep pushing the boundaries of what is possible. Each person has their own methods they like to use, based on their experience and knowledge, and that is fine. Sometimes, you can incorporate a new tip or trick in your routine or regimen and that’s also fine.
The traditional wash method vs rinseless car wash method has always been controversial. And I understand why. It’s hard to wrap your mind around a new method that basically takes away everything you were used to and throws that out the window, and uses new products and techniques that can seem “coming from left field” to many people.
I have been using the traditional two bucket method for so long and it works for me. I know how to do it properly and my cars have never had scratches, swirls or marring. I also have a water softener system and can work in my garage, and have a great pressure washer and access to free flowing water, so my setup is perfect for that method. I wash my car twice weekly so the rinseless wash method does also work well in my case, as my car is never super dirty, but I don’t feel the need to switch to this method, as I already have a tried and true process.
But the rinseless wash method does work well for those who use it often and use it properly. Many professional detailers use this method with great success. And with many cities and towns with heavy water restrictions, or no access to free flowing water, a rinseless wash can sometimes be the only solution. I get it. And I’m ok with that, as long as it’s done well and it works in that person’s world.
Are there good points to the rinseless wash method? Yes absolutely. I love the idea of the pre-treatment on the vehicle using a rinseless wash in a pump sprayer, to help with encapsulating dirt and lubricating the surface before rinsing the car.
At the end, Yvan said it best: There is no right or wrong way. If your method yields good results and it makes you happy, by all means, keep doing what you’re doing. There’s nothing wrong with that.
Let’s just keep enjoying detailing our cars, as driving a clean car is so much better!
@@PanTheOrganizer That is the reason why I follow your channel. Thanks very much!!!
Pan that guy is a pro hands down and to me that method is awesome 👏 because you saving on time electricity and water 💧big time so much words of wisdom give it up to your mate and his wife much love ❤️👍👍👍👍👍👍👌👌👌👌🙏🙏🙏🙏👏👏👊👊👊👊✊✊🤘🤘💪💪💪💪💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Thanks 👍
IVAN SHOWS THAT THERE IS A SCIENCE TO EVERYTHING. TOP MARKS GUYS👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Thanks Harlem
These are getting better every time I watch. Bravo pan
Thanks Joseph! It's important and fun to have discussions on different detailing related topics.
I used McKee’s 37 N-914 and did a Rinseless wash on my black car. It worked well. I went one panel at a time and used fluffy microfiber towels and turtle wax graphene flex wax as a drying aide. It did save me time, but It took me a hour to do everything. I did the wheels first with tire and wheel cleaner, then did the car. I think I will do this a few more times to get the hang of it.
First time I used ONR the initial scraping feel as the mitt hit the dirt as it were, freaked me out. I now always do a pre soak with the solution and that gets round that. I think I would always do a pre rinse on a heavily soiled car but my low mileage on reasonably decent surfaces means it is rare I need to do that. Great video as always.
I love these controversial subjects.
I’m thinking about using making a video on with one rinse bucket and just using the foam lance to apply the soap/foam solution.
I understand the the principle of the rinseless wash method, but the product doesn’t feel lubricated enough.
I really like using it as a quick detailer though.
I’m not sure about the snowfoam 50/50 as it definitely removes more than just standard rinse. I also use a citrus degreaser before hand which removes a surprising amount of dirt
Yours and Yvan’s knowledge on the subject is great. Keep it up gents 👊🏼👍🏼
On one of my cars, I applied Turtle Wax Hybrid Solutions Pro Graphene Flex Spray Wax. It looks great, and is hydrophobic for months. What caught me by surprise is that when I dry the car after a wash with an air cannon, the heat of the air melts the wax, at which point it preserves small water spots and smudges. I have stopped using the air cannon as long as that product is my top coat. This forces me to use a microfiber towel to dry the car, when air would be preferable for being touchless and scratchless.
That's what I told you in your last tips & tricks french video . I'm happy you invited Yvan once again.
I'm a rinseless fan because of Yvan, but I like bubble too, so, I go with the feeling. During summer, sometime 2 buckets, sometime rinseless. Winter, rinseless inside the garage
Hope you enjoyed it!
It's hard to not enjoy your video, you put time, hard work and you make me upgrade my techniques.
You do a great job, and you take time to reply if we have question. We can see it's not only a work for you, it's a passion, just like Yvan :)
Thanks Martin!!
Just took delivery of my Ultra Black Sponge! Will be trying out this method asap!
I use autoglym polar blast without pre rinse, then autoglym polar wash with foam gun, I then use a wash mitt on the foam but rinse the mitt between panels, then dry the car using show room shine which drys and enhances the car colour, then foam on autobrite ceramic foam sealer. A bit long winded but produces a beautiful finishes hopefully not scratching the car too much.
Appreciate the commentary. But at the end of the day, everyone has an opinion. I’ve been using a foam cannon and two bucket method for years with zero scratches and/or swirl marks. Nobody ever said the soaps main purpose was to clean the car, it’s designed to lubricate during the wash process.
Matt from obsessed says it best...”this isn’t the only way to do it, it’s just the way that I found works best for me.”
Exactly Archie. And Yvan said it right at the end of this video: At the end of the day, there isn't really a right or wrong method. You use the method that works for you and which ever one makes you happy. I will continue to use my two bucket wash method as it has always worked for me. But I will start to incorporate the rinseless wash as a pre-treatment before rinsing the car at the very beginning.
Let me first start by saying that conversations in the world of detailing are an important thing to have. We always learn new things as we go, and we need to keep pushing the boundaries of what is possible. Each person has their own methods they like to use, based on their experience and knowledge, and that is fine. Sometimes, you can incorporate a new tip or trick in your routine or regimen and that’s also fine.
The traditional wash method vs rinseless car wash method has always been controversial. And I understand why. It’s hard to wrap your mind around a new method that basically takes away everything you were used to and throws that out the window, and uses new products and techniques that can seem “coming from left field” to many people.
I have been using the traditional two bucket method for so long and it works for me. I know how to do it properly and my cars have never had scratches, swirls or marring. I also have a water softener system and can work in my garage, and have a great pressure washer and access to free flowing water, so my setup is perfect for that method. I wash my car twice weekly so the rinseless wash method does also work well in my case, as my car is never super dirty, but I don’t feel the need to switch to this method, as I already have a tried and true process.
But the rinseless wash method does work well for those who use it often and use it properly. Many professional detailers use this method with great success. And with many cities and towns with heavy water restrictions, or no access to free flowing water, a rinseless wash can sometimes be the only solution. I get it. And I’m ok with that, as long as it’s done well and it works in that person’s world.
Are there good points to the rinseless wash method? Yes absolutely. I love the idea of the pre-treatment on the vehicle using a rinseless wash in a pump sprayer, to help with encapsulating dirt and lubricating the surface before rinsing the car.
At the end, Yvan said it best: There is no right or wrong way. If your method yields good results and it makes you happy, by all means, keep doing what you’re doing. There’s nothing wrong with that.
Let’s just keep enjoying detailing our cars, as driving a clean car is so much better!
WOW he certainly had me watching the video. It really is an interesting topic. I could look into the waterless ranch for sure and Ian makes a valid point with it. Thanks for this Pan and Ian.
this feels like one of them occasions like in school, where you've been taught something for so many years, and a day before the exam you learn that it was bullshit and you were taught wrong ! haha,
respect to Pan and the Dr for this amazing insight, will defo be trying this method out!
love ONR and the BRS and the shine achieved at the end of process -?undoubtedly saves a lot of effort - ( keep the 2 buckets for one either side of car each with 1 gal of ONR ! saves running around !! ( this was a useful tip from Yvan...). Bill Kerr in UK. 2003 Volvo XC 70 SE Lux 2.4 T