Cooling the 9800X3D... what cooler do you need?

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  • @MachinesMore
    @MachinesMore  หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Had a typo in the chart at 9:11- the IS-30 is thermally throttling and the temp number should read 95.2, not 92.2.

    • @raminpro9765
      @raminpro9765 หลายเดือนก่อน

      in 3D cpu above 80* can damage cash

  • @TheMXinsidE
    @TheMXinsidE หลายเดือนก่อน +197

    I know this might not be the type of content that draws the most attention around embargo lifts but it is actually so valuable for people realistically looking into building with a processor. Thankful for some unique and relatable content on review drop that's not just blasting the chip with a 4090 in 1080p...

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Awesome, glad it’s helpful!

    • @Guar_gum
      @Guar_gum หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Absolutely agree with you. Thanks to the M&M for clearing things up. Now I could relax by choosing PH 120SE and not worry about temperatures

    • @stephancardenas-navarro127
      @stephancardenas-navarro127 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      For some of us... After knowing that the 9800X3D is worth for upgrading. This is the most useful and I have always ending coming back to this channel to see if my cooler fits in any given case, to check if a new cooler is compatible with the some socket or for today if the 120 watts that this cpu draws will be OK with my budget air cooler for full ATX or mini-itx builds

    • @Horstelin
      @Horstelin หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Have to say though testing with a 4090 in 1080p makes sense as you want to be as cpu limited as much for actually comparing performance between cpus.

    • @TheMXinsidE
      @TheMXinsidE หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Horstelin the comment is more regarding a refreshing difference in the topics of reviewing the product, not undermining the necessity of those benchmarks mentioned.

  • @pauloluis3960
    @pauloluis3960 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    This is the first video I've seen talking about this subject (9800x3D), good job!!!

  • @jjjjjut
    @jjjjjut หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    this channel is so underrated man. i appreciate the coverage for sff cases and coolers

  • @zblurth
    @zblurth หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    I was a little sad to not see a SFF cooler in the main review but colour me surprise you where cooking a dedicated video, love this channel

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      😀Cooling is a little more in depth, figured it would be better as it’s own little blurb!

  • @stedavid13
    @stedavid13 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    As someone who held out for this CPU and is building a SFF PC - thank you for making this video!

  • @zackw4941
    @zackw4941 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I managed to snag a 9800X3D this morning, before they sold out everywhere. I'm doing a new build with an Asrock Nova X870E, 64gb DDR5 6400 and a D15 G2 cooler with PTM 7950. I've had all the other parts sitting in a pile for a while, so I'm really exited to have the CPU ordered now.
    I tried out the PTM 7950 on my 5900X and it's performing a little bit better than MX-6 right out of the box! Hard to say how much it's improving over time, because I have to measure sound too, with my fan curves. Initial testing showed a 2-4c reduction, while also dropping 1-2db.
    I also setup a new Fractal North XL, with four Noctua 140mm G2 fans and have been running it with my existing 5900X system for several weeks now. I'm VERY happy with it!

    • @itsprod.472
      @itsprod.472 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is that the special thermal pad right? I myself want to try it out on a 5800x3d

    • @marchufnagel9068
      @marchufnagel9068 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I did an online reserve at microcenter this morning. It’s reserved for me and they still show 25+. Where did you get yours?

    • @_dark168
      @_dark168 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's pretty much what I'm getting, same cpu, case, cooler and fans. Can you tell me what temps are you getting, so I have an ideia

    • @djnes2k7
      @djnes2k7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s not going be sold out everywhere. CPUs in gaming as in demand as you may think. In fact the last gen isn’t max out, and unless you have a 4090….. this isn’t a must have day 1……. Not mention no big games, that are cpu heavy released around this time…..which is the entire point of all this…..the gam3s

    • @jabronilifestyle
      @jabronilifestyle หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@djnes2k7 A lot of people had failed Intel 13/14th gens and have been waiting for this chip, so if anything sells out, this will be it.

  • @awwwnold
    @awwwnold หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the content bro. 🙏🏼

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Oh man, thank you big time!

  • @Abcgum64
    @Abcgum64 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Love the content. Detailed info

  • @Kahlimer0
    @Kahlimer0 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Exactly the question i was asking me this morning 😁👍

  • @essenceofsias
    @essenceofsias หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was the exact set of questions I needed investigated, thank you so much for doing the work!

  • @Muppet-kz2nc
    @Muppet-kz2nc หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Such a good practical video. The insights with 120mm and single towers is helpful. Im helping my nephews build rigs for the holidays. These small differences make a big buying difference.

  • @otravoyadnoe
    @otravoyadnoe หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I'm really interested to know if 9800x3d's power efficiency can be further improved with PBO CO negative offset and power limiting. Cooling this thing while it's running in 65W Eco Mode shouldn't be a problem for the majority of low profile coolers out there it's just how much performance will one lose (if any) going this route.

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Yup! It sure can. I’ll be doing a demo for the PBO setup, timing wise trying to sync up to folks getting the CPU in hand.

    • @CVNTGETENOUGH
      @CVNTGETENOUGH หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@MachinesMore can you include 5800x3d in comparison

    • @otravoyadnoe
      @otravoyadnoe หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MachinesMore great to hear! looking forward to it!

    • @frati80
      @frati80 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That would be awesome. -20 CO is like default for sff.

    • @Atilolzz
      @Atilolzz หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@MachinesMore Dont forget to always verify undervolts (Cinebench etc.) to avoid "clock stretching"

  • @azurestrike3082
    @azurestrike3082 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Good, love these kind of review.... Not just bench but another info for us... Nice bro 🎉

  • @rcccc3548
    @rcccc3548 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm running a 9800x3d under a NH-D15 (but only a single fan due to RAM clearance unfortunately) in a Lian Li A3, by default the temps were easily hitting 95c. Undervolting the CPU in a curve optimiser to negative 30, and now my temps generally hit upto 85, but mostly below 70c, also runs slightly faster too. This chip is legendary at undervolting, highly recommend!

  • @calotron357
    @calotron357 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video! Informative and concise. GG!

  • @vishred
    @vishred หลายเดือนก่อน

    Needed this video and it came out. What a channel

  • @yonson_racing
    @yonson_racing หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have mine in a 6L case and I'm using a Thermalright AXP120-X67 with a 140mm thin Silverstone fan replacing the 120mm. I've got it setup to exhaust instead of intake since that worked best for my application. With a 7800X3D with PBO and CO -30, in a 30 minute Cinebench R23 test it scored 16597, swapping to the 9800X3D with PBO and CO -30 it improved to 22422. It doesn't show to ever thermal throttle in HWinfo, but it does run at the 95C limit the entire test and peaked at 146W.

  • @starofeden9277
    @starofeden9277 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    glad you did this
    but i was hoping you woukld show the othe coolers too
    ID-Cooling IS-67-XT BLACK 120mm
    ID-Cooling FROZN A610 BLACK 120mm
    DeepCool DC-AK620-DIGITAL-PRO AK620 Digital 120mm

  • @catbertz
    @catbertz หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was helpful as I plan my next build for Christmas!

  • @eman6784
    @eman6784 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man, the visuals have improved!

  • @ShrkBiT
    @ShrkBiT หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is very helpful, not many channels talk about minimum required cooling, especially not so quickly after launch, but cooling matters to actual consumers. Just a small asterisk: you mention requirements between heavy multi-core workloads and gaming scenario's are different, but there's a lot of games that hit the CPU hard at all cores while shader caching. It's not massively impactful as it would just clock down a bit on smaller coolers and take slightly longer, but it's also not non-existing for gaming scenario's in that sense. Massive nitpick though. Thanks for your work!

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sure thing and point well taken. It’s more of a broad recommendation, for most gaming uses I would expect somewhere around 65-75W, higher than that doesn’t change the calculus too much unless one is truly on the fringe with their cooling solution.

  • @frati80
    @frati80 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Exactly what I was looking for. Some like them small :)

  • @danielpresas6206
    @danielpresas6206 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish I could like this video more times. Itx building is my passion and I love that there is a video for this. Thank you!

  • @Y_Grim_R
    @Y_Grim_R 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I use the thermalright peerless assassin 120 (bequiet light wing fan swap), paired with the thermalright contact frame to cool my 9800x3d, paired with a 7900xtx at 4k. If i do a pure undervolt i see temps 45-50c during long gaming sessions. If i do an undervolt+5.4 overclock i see a small jump up to 55-60c. At undervolt+5.7 overclock i see 65-70c. I once seen it hit 80 during timespy, at 100% utilization, but its almost guaranteed you will never see that kind of utilization or temps during gaming.
    Edit, all of these temps were with my ambient temp around 75-80F.

  • @jabronilifestyle
    @jabronilifestyle หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The all-core blender render is imo the best choice for showing thermal performance. Again, well done.

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Cheers. Agreed, Blender is very consistent for that purpose and a good example of a typical heavy all core workload.

  • @samkremers8737
    @samkremers8737 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great, just the content i was looking for!!!

  • @JSwalas
    @JSwalas หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    any numbers whit Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 Mini ?

    • @jessiethedude
      @jessiethedude หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just run it in eco mode. I forgot which reviewer it was, but they saw very little difference in gaming performance using the 65tdp limit

  • @EnigmasityGG
    @EnigmasityGG หลายเดือนก่อน

    I‘m glad you recommended the Atmos 240. I’m running this exact cooler inside my Dan A4 H2O and can’t wait to throw the 9800X3D in there (if I can actually get my hands on one).

  • @Izanagi-Arsene
    @Izanagi-Arsene หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    not as interesting as the benchmarking results but honestly it is a nice change of pace to see how it'll stand against coolers that aren't the standard 360mm form factor, liquid freezer or nh d15 2nd gen.

  • @KevinMoses7
    @KevinMoses7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very useful info here! Thank you

  • @s13kuminachu
    @s13kuminachu หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thing is, this chip will be at 20-40% utilization during gaming. Cooling wont be an issue. I run a low pro scyth on my 5800x3d. Its between 60-70c gaming on a 1440p monitor with a 7900xtx. Max settings. This should run cooler with the cashe on the bottom.

  • @ciaranplunkett1395
    @ciaranplunkett1395 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Please test with Thermalright AXP90-X47/X53 Full Copper!

    • @wynochaidioto
      @wynochaidioto หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I would love that, it's basically the biggest you can go in the Terra if you go with a 4080 or a 4090 and the full copper version could maybe potentially just handle it?

    • @LaurensVandoorne
      @LaurensVandoorne หลายเดือนก่อน

      Curious about this too!

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      I added this to my homework list 🙏

  • @aquilarossa5191
    @aquilarossa5191 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Since I had a Ryzen 2700X thru to my 5900X my Noctua NH-U12A has been plenty of cooling. It's not now. I noticed my new 9950X is hitting 95C when I was testing it with Cinebench R23. I have nerfed it to a 90C limit while I look at cooling solutions that can dissipate a higher TDP. My old air cooler might be able to cool a 9800X3D though, but it would be marginal. I am not even sure a 360mm AIO will prevent it going over 90C when stress testing. Not a problem for normal use though. There are very few applications that push it that hard.

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  หลายเดือนก่อน

      U12A will be more than enough for the 9800X3D. I’m kind of curious about the performance with 9950X actually, I would think it would be better. Two questions- what’s your case/airflow setup and did you get the new offset mounting bars from Noctua?

    • @alihammad6318
      @alihammad6318 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The limitation isn't the radiator surface area. The main bottleneck for heat transfer currently on 7000/9000 series is the real thick IHS. Direct die cooled at stock settings the 9800X3D doesn't break 55C even in cinebench. At 5.6GHz overclocked, it maxes out at 65C.
      Check out Der8auer's video. If you really care about temps, consider at least a high performance heat spreader or direct die cooling.

  • @thegrimreaper7
    @thegrimreaper7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely fantastic video. Thank you.

  • @jamesb.walker9177
    @jamesb.walker9177 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Would have been very nice to have a comparation chart with 7800X3D specially on the Terra.

  • @nickjacobsss
    @nickjacobsss หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Damn that was fast, I was just about to grab one from microcenter and try it out myself.

  • @christenlanger
    @christenlanger หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for this. I'm planning to put it in the Fractal Ridge and I was worried about putting it under a 67mm cooler. Guess I had nothing to worry about since I will rarely be doing multicore workloads.

  • @pavelemelyanov1948
    @pavelemelyanov1948 หลายเดือนก่อน

    purchased full copper axp90-x53 and ordered deepcool FP9 slim with increased static pressure, cannot wait to see how much power it will be ready to draw :)

  • @FatheredPuma81
    @FatheredPuma81 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just went with an Arctic LF3 420mm and PBO undervolted my chip. If I loop Cinebench for 30 minutes it goes up to 85C. 5 year warranty means at least 1 CPU swap and who knows if 16 cores for gaming will be a thing in the future.

  • @wood6454
    @wood6454 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The CoolerMaster 212 doesn't have enough cooling due the gaps between the pipes on the plate and also the heatpipe count. I think a 90mm dual tower cooler with full copper plate will outperform it. For air cooling high power CPUs I use the Snowman BM6000.

  • @j_crust4582
    @j_crust4582 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How would thermalright full copper versions fair?

  • @sporadicentertainment9253
    @sporadicentertainment9253 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve got the the ROG Crosshair X870E Hero latest bios and the Ryzen 7 9800X3D, Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360 Black, G Skill Ultra Low Latency cl28 6000MHz 2x16gb with direct memory cooling, Samsung 990 Evo Pro 2TB M.2, Asus RTX 4080 Super, Corsair rm1000x 80 gold plus fully modular and for the PC case the Corsair 7000D and holy ish after delidding the CPU the temps dropped almost 20c no joke it also helps to have my AC at 69 degrees 24/7. This rig is strictly for gaming I’m so happy with it.

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is some fast RAM! Sounds like a nice build and enjoy it.

  • @charleyweinhardt
    @charleyweinhardt 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    So you can expect the exact same FPS playing cyberpunk with full retracing on a sff vs a tower and AIO?

  • @kierontse
    @kierontse หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you❤

  • @heliopkad
    @heliopkad หลายเดือนก่อน

    great content and infos. thx

  • @lemar8933
    @lemar8933 หลายเดือนก่อน

    im getting 9800x3d tomorrow, I will be running it with the peerless assassin 120 in a fish bowl case let's see how it goes.

  • @brianrobinson3961
    @brianrobinson3961 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interested to see how the 9800X3D does with a negative offset in Curve optimizer. -10, -15, -20, -30 if even possible. I wonder if it could hit full boost clocks at 88 watts.

  • @j00st91
    @j00st91 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not shopping for a new CPU since I just built a 7800X3D SFF rig, but it’s still fun to see the new chip design evolve.

    • @hornantuutti5157
      @hornantuutti5157 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I got 5800xd and playing on 1440p so this cpu would give me pretty much 5 more fps. So no rush at all. I bet this rock will serve fine for next 4-5 years.

  • @Katjajaja
    @Katjajaja หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im moving from a 5800X3D setup to a 9800X3D, I suppose I might as well just reuse the 240mm AIO I already have. Thanks for the info!

  • @shrinkled
    @shrinkled หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video definitely helps with my upcoming build! Kind of wish you show temps for a larger air cooler but you did mention that Peerless assassin which I did get so hopefully everything will be fine

  • @MarcParisTV
    @MarcParisTV หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks a lot for this very interesting study! Planning to check Noctua C14S and NH-D12L with the R7 9800X3D!

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Should be a good choice. You building in an M2?

    • @MarcParisTV
      @MarcParisTV หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MachinesMore Oh no...allmighty Cerberus-X..:D ATX MB SFF king with N-ATX..:D

    • @bobikong5147
      @bobikong5147 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I use the C14S + a lian Li TL 140mm.
      Works great in a Jonsbo TK-1

  • @Brunnen_Gee
    @Brunnen_Gee หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yesterday I had someone specifically ask how well this CPU might do in a mITX case with a low profile cooler. Then this popped in my feed so I immediately shared it.

  • @IamMotionMedia
    @IamMotionMedia หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ive got a 9800x3d still in the box, is it worth waiting for the b850 boards? Im looking to do an SFF/MSFF build in a dan a3 or Ncase M2.
    We dont have much choices with the b650 stock waning here in Australia, choices largely limited to the Msi Mag Mortar Matx, Gigabyte B650M AORUS ELITE AX, and Strix b650e-i

  • @Floodsye
    @Floodsye หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very good info to have, I'm a big fan of air cooling and by all metrics, an upgrade from my i7-12700KF actually wouldn't be that much of a problem at all. There's certain games that have annoying CPU bottlenecks at 1440p with my chip and my 4070 Ti is literally made for 1440p gaming, so I'd get excellent gains in many of my favorite games, not to mention future proofing and moving to DDR5. This info was one of the last data points I needed since my current cooler should easily be enough and IF i decide to start doing some crazy all core workloads...then I can always upgrade :D

  • @swlak516
    @swlak516 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Using L12s for my 9800x3d in a Fractal ridge. Haven’t hit above 80 degrees yet.

  • @LandsOfDespair
    @LandsOfDespair หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for a great test!
    How do you think, Deepcool AK500 Digital will be enough for 9800X3D? :) Don't want to cover RAM with bigger one and don't want an AIO :)

  • @user-wq9mw2xz3j
    @user-wq9mw2xz3j 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video. Test with some big air cooler, like TR PA would be fitting and maje it even better

    • @Y_Grim_R
      @Y_Grim_R 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I just posted my results with the pa here in the comments.

  • @privaatsak
    @privaatsak หลายเดือนก่อน

    Apparently the undervoting performance can be insane with this chip (if you get a good one) Would be interested to see how the L12S handles in an optimised setup.. 🤔

  • @grimfandango2006
    @grimfandango2006 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If wanting to build in a T1 and not leave any significant pwrformance on the table seems like the only way to go is aio 240mm

  • @thereaIdand
    @thereaIdand หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did you test the 9800x3d in the ncore 100 max? That's my exact case with the 120mm thick radiator aio. I'm planning on upgrading to the 9800x3d for gaming and wanted to know the max temps with it

  • @keviny7452
    @keviny7452 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How are temps on the IS55? I feel like most air cooled sff builds end up in that 40-60mm cpu cooler range instead of 30 or 70

  • @Hydra_X9K_Music
    @Hydra_X9K_Music หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So I have a Corsair 4000D Airflow and a Noctua NH-U12A, as well as 5 Noctua NFA12x25 Fans (3 Front, 1 Back, 1 Top). It currently cools the 5800x3D no problem whatsoever. If I ever get a 9800x3D, this setup should do fine right?

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah no doubt. Sorry I forgot to mention this one. The U12A is more like a dual tower in performance since it has a top in class heatsink plus two of the best 120mm fans on the market.

  • @exzacklyright
    @exzacklyright 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Do you think the NZXT Kraken X53 is fine?

  • @lomobster
    @lomobster หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am looking at this CPU for mainly gaming but also intensive audio production. Do you believe an aircooler is enough to get by? Something like a Peerless Assassin 120 or Frost Commander 140. Would love to hear your thoughts.

    • @Y_Grim_R
      @Y_Grim_R 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If your going to be doing and kind of work station and gaming you might want to wait for the 9950x3d. That being said, my peerless assassin keeps my 9800x3d nice and cool.

  • @s7r49
    @s7r49 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm really torn. my 5800x3d build was in an absolutely massive case with a custom loop and two 360 mm radiators. in all honesty. I kind of hate it. I am really thinking about doing a compact build on air this time around. I just don't know. i dont know what to do xD I suspect i have about 3 weeks to decide before my preorder gets filled given my past experience with amazons overly cautious backorder dates.

    • @s7r49
      @s7r49 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i wish i knew exactly the size the 5090 gpus will be.

  • @lucam8758
    @lucam8758 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very cool review! I'm going to build my first pc soon, I'd like to build it myself (following a tutorial of course) and I'd like to avoid liquid cooling because I'm a bit scared of the maintenance it requires. So, for mostly gaming air cooling is going to be enough? Is the CPU able to self regulate?
    Or if I'm going to use just air cooling, should I look for a 7800x3d? Or maybe I can stop fearing liquid cooling...

    • @Y_Grim_R
      @Y_Grim_R 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      "Water cooling is dead". Air coolers work great, pick up a peerless assassin 120, its cheap and works better than most aios on the market.

  • @jordan-mn6yy
    @jordan-mn6yy หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are dual tower coolers safe to use vertically upright in a tower or are they too heavy?

  • @weirdodude1173
    @weirdodude1173 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was wondering how much better this new 3D cache design is for keeping things cool, thanks!

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  หลายเดือนก่อน

      When drawing down full power (~55% more vs 7800X3D) it can maintain the same temps as it. So it is quite a big improvement.

  • @nelson5248
    @nelson5248 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How about thermalright's pa120mini?

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Should be a great fit, you will see higher fan speeds at full load since it’s a single fan cooler, but it will work well and will be very quiet for gaming.

    • @nelson5248
      @nelson5248 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @MachinesMore thanks for the reply!

  • @alessandrotrezzi3221
    @alessandrotrezzi3221 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    So I'll be more than good with my Phantom Spirit 120 SE?

    • @nhancao4790
      @nhancao4790 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, performance should be similar/slightly better than the 240 AIO in this video

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Indeed, the good dual towers such as what you have, and others like the PA120, D15 will all perform similarly to a 240, as will a good single tower like the Noctua U12A. I tested smaller air coolers for a little more value added to the discussion.

    • @kitsune0689
      @kitsune0689 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@MachinesMore Hey would you say peerless assassin would be enough or should i push for d15? (phantom spirit isnt avalible in my region)

  • @chibiribiri
    @chibiribiri 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Like I said before: If u play benchmarks the entire time uising a "gaming cpu". Yeah... Those small coolers will st ruggle hard. But If u just play ur games u will never struggle with these things. I'm using the 9800X3D with my 4070 Super in the Fractal Terra and the CPU temps in games never hiots the 70°C. Maybe the summer is coming here in europe. But there is enough headroom.
    I mean no suprise if u constantly hit 120 (without co more like 140) watts through such small coolers, that they get hot :)

  • @003Jetfire
    @003Jetfire หลายเดือนก่อน

    I heard somewhere the 9800X3D has an eco (65W) mode. Can you confirm this?
    That might be the sweet spot for SFF

  • @Nevertobebad
    @Nevertobebad 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just bought a razer hanbo chroma 240mm. Will that do the job for gaming or should i return it and invest in a better one

  • @firechikara
    @firechikara หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi, that was an interesting and would like your advice as I'm hesitating about the type of cooling.
    I'm planning to do a mini-ITX build with a Lian Li TU150 and if I go with a watercooling AIO, I have only space for a 120mm fan which if I remember it right, there was a manual saying it has to be placed in front.
    I have room to add two fans at the bottom and one fan at the rear.
    Do you think an AIO is good for this kind of case with 9800X3D CPU or is it better with a tower? And if you have specific models?

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you have the TU150 I would go for a big tower cooler, they also work well with the airflow setup for the case. The most cost effective are ones like Thermalright’s PA120 and Phantom Spirit 120, these will give you performance closer to a 240mm AIO without the form factor restrictions. The TU150 is more geared towards air cooler clearance so you might as well take advantage of that!

    • @firechikara
      @firechikara หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MachinesMore Thank you so much for your advice.
      Just to be sure, an AIO 120 is not ideal then? I was thinking about the Asus ROG Ryuo 120 at first, with the screen for displaying temperatures and stuff.
      For tower fan, I heard Noctua had the best fan but you think Thermalright's models are better?

  • @ThePhenom9x
    @ThePhenom9x 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No dual towers?

  • @scottshaffer5205
    @scottshaffer5205 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ASUS ProArt LC 420 might just do the trick.

  • @justdeebs
    @justdeebs หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! Is it still recommended to offset coolers like with the 7000 series?

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! Yes, the CCD placement is the same as 7000.

  • @phillippatryndal4255
    @phillippatryndal4255 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm planning on getting a Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE cooler for my 9800X3D (whenever that happens - sometime this month). Since I won't be OC'ing it, and I won't use it for anything beyond games, (so no apps that'll push all core workloads to max), it should be fine?

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You’d be fine even doing all core workloads with that. PA 120 series is a beast.

    • @phillippatryndal4255
      @phillippatryndal4255 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MachinesMore Good to know my initial research still checks out, then.

    • @dkindig
      @dkindig หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Additional data point for you: I'm running a Scythe Fuma 3 air cooler with 3 fans, idle is 42*, 88* in Cinebench at 165W (throttles at 95*), 22* (72F) ambient. Gaming load is super-light in comparison.

  • @mikekanakakis918
    @mikekanakakis918 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you add to your homework as well this combo? Thermalright axp120 x67, with silverstone air slimmer 120 fan and noctua nt-h2 thermal paste? In a lot of posts I saw that this was the best performing combo for < 70mm cpu cooler height (best used to fractal design ridge). Thanks

  • @xescdelarosa3328
    @xescdelarosa3328 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How about a 47mm cooler and an undervolt?

  • @brobob52
    @brobob52 หลายเดือนก่อน

    U think we should wait for black friday for a potential deal or get it asap

  • @emiel255
    @emiel255 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you also review the Thorzone NanoQ S and R version case? I would love to see a build with this CPU in that case :)

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Looking into it!

    • @emiel255
      @emiel255 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ the great thing about that case is that it is able to house both 240/280mm AIO’S well also at the same time accommodate the biggest GPU’S possible (think 4090 Strix). There are currently not many ITX cases that are able to do that. It is very pricey though

  • @marcleroux3426
    @marcleroux3426 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    whats this story about having to undervolt this cpu?

  • @liberteus
    @liberteus หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wonder how the 9800x3d will fare with 140mm AIO? Eyeing the coolermaster core n100, it's not the best case, not the cheapest, but it's vertical, tiny desk footprint, room for huge gpu, very easy itx build.

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Ncore 100 max I assume? It uses a thick rad 120mm AIO which should be sufficient for the 9800X3D all full power but as mentioned you won’t have much headroom for higher ambient temps or simultaneous GPU usage during full CPU load. The case also prioritizes GPU cooling so the intake path for the rad is not as direct as it could be. I would expect temps closer to the 90-95 degree range at full load.

    • @liberteus
      @liberteus หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MachinesMore since I'm playing 3440*1440 and doing AI stuff on the side (mostly GPU), I guess it'll be ok. And the PC is in a basement room, it's always colder than ambient. I hope one day we have a case where the radiator and fans are OUTSIDE the case, protected with a dust filter.

  • @nephilimslayer
    @nephilimslayer หลายเดือนก่อน

    do u think this chip is good enough for cooling with the case for the cooler master nr 200p max?

  • @dkimmortal
    @dkimmortal 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    what about a big shurikan 3 with a 25mm 14cm arctic fan

  • @michaellopez112
    @michaellopez112 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey, I ordered the 240mm Atmos recently. Is replacing the fans necessary, useful at all? For both small cases like the h20 and bigger cases like the nr200.

    • @michaellopez112
      @michaellopez112 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Really love your channel btw thank u

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not necessary at all, the stock fans are quite good. If you are chasing every last degree then yes you can upgrade, I have used NF-A12x25 and Phanteks T30 on that rad with great results.

    • @michaellopez112
      @michaellopez112 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MachinesMore thank you!

  • @metalmaggot673
    @metalmaggot673 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is an awesome video!! Super exactly what I was looking for. I have a the NCASE T1. Loved your review on it, and im glad to hear the 9800x3d should be able to push gaming only work loads. Will you be willing to do a direct review of the 9800x3d in the T1?

  • @OverpricedCosmetics
    @OverpricedCosmetics หลายเดือนก่อน

    How about the peerless assassin mini? (Thinking about ncase M2 build)

  • @kuzzzzzzzzzzzz7511
    @kuzzzzzzzzzzzz7511 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did you think the thermalright axp90 x53 full copper without pbo??

  • @aj9156
    @aj9156 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is Dan A4 H2O a better choice for ITX build with 9800x3D vs all the other ones that use air cooling?

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Love the A4-H2O. If you want to do a 240 it’s great.

  • @LakerTriangle
    @LakerTriangle หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tried to order one this morning and it's sold out everywhere.

  • @PoisonedVG
    @PoisonedVG หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello, first time commenting (I think). I'm helping a friend put together a system and hes eyeing the 9800x3d, do you think it would work well with the A620I Lightning? Thanks for the video coverage!

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cheers! I believe Asrock's version of the A620I can support up to 120W TDP AM5 CPUs (unlike others that are 65W TDP only), so on spec it is fine, if you really really wanted to min/max then that could in fact be OK (assuming I'm remembering correctly on the TDP spec for the board). That being said, this is a $480 CPU, so personally I would recommend at minimum a B650I board here, you will get more granular control of PBO settings, better and more IO, and I think it would be money well spent to pair with at least something like Asrock's B650I (which is still light on IO however). My two typical recommendations for B650 ITX are MSI and Asus's, I think those are the most complete boards, even though more pricey, you get the IO you need, and those are the two BIOS implementations I prefer as well. We will have B850 rolling in very soon as well, so there will be more options.

  • @gogafogattv
    @gogafogattv 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why MSI MPG B650I EDGE WIFI instead of ASUS ROG STRIX B650E-I GAMING WIFI?

  • @vikhaxnz
    @vikhaxnz หลายเดือนก่อน

    In your opinion, what is the best 280 AIO? Anything you prefer over the Freezer III 280?

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not really, that is a tough one to beat and priced to win. If you really want to rock out add two NF-A14 G2s.

    • @vikhaxnz
      @vikhaxnz หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ actually already ordered some! Thanks!

  • @orion9k
    @orion9k หลายเดือนก่อน

    So you're saying a 9800x3d would work in a Mini itx case, losing just a tiny amount of Mhz.
    But how does this work for a 7800x3d in a Mini itx case using Noctua NH-L12S ?

  • @brandonbagaskara4119
    @brandonbagaskara4119 หลายเดือนก่อน

    no benchmarks for dual tower????

  • @nepo10ball
    @nepo10ball หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I already have thermalright pa 120 mini, will it handle this cpu?

    • @Y_Grim_R
      @Y_Grim_R 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      My pa 120 cools it just fine

    • @nepo10ball
      @nepo10ball 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Y_Grim_R is it mini version? What is the average temperatures ?

  • @FelixLora
    @FelixLora หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just picked a 9800x3D up from my local MC, but worried the ID cool IS 55 won't be good enough to cool this CPU, which then begs the question if I should just return and exchange for a 9700x instead.

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Depends on how you use it. Under gaming loads 9800X3D actually draws less power. For heavy all core loads for sure the IS-55 will be too little cooler for the 9800X3D, while it will work great for the stock (65W TDP) 9700X.