TOM BRADY THROUGH THE YEARS - MADDEN 03 THROUGH MADDEN 16
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- Welcome to another MilesDawkins247 production. today we are looking at Tom Brady through the years. from his year in Madden. Madden NFL 2003. as we work through his career he stop to look at Tom Brady's ratings in Madden 04, ESPN NFL 2k5 and madden 16.
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He's the Goat now! You can't even argue
after last night i cant say anything
MilesDawkins247 great vid man
MilesDawkins247 do Shane Lechler next.
Lucas Crane there hasn't been an argument since he beat the Seahawks
They cant argue, but the facts are undisputable. Like Science.
I feel like this video was just an excuse to gloat about Joe Montana.
When tom Brady has every playoff record and people still say that he isn't the goat
"Disect the stats" how about you do that yourself bub...
Regular Season Stats
Tom Career Passing Yards:
58,028
257.9 Yards/Game
Tom Career TD's:
428
1.9 TD/Game
Joe Career Passing Yards:
40,551
211.2 Yards/Game
Joe Career TD's:
273
1.4 TD's/Game
"disect the stats"
"Bub"
compare that to peyton tho
+Dubz yeah but Peyton isn't as good in the post season. That's what puts tom above him
Stats don't tell the whole story...Vinny testaverde and Drew Bledsoe have big numbers, but obviously they are not even in the discussion for the hall of fame
+joshua latortue Favre has the most interceptions ever
in my opinion making 6 and winning 4 is better than winning four and making four.
Cool vid man. I respect your opinion on Brady being the second best all time. I'd just like to point out a few things:
1. if Manning was more valuable to the Colts than Brady was to the Patriots in their seasons where they missed an entire year, then why is it that the Colts instantly went to the playoffs literally the year after going 2-14? Going from the basement to the playoffs isn't unheard of, but going from the basement to the playoffs with a rookie QB at helm? Many teams don't do that. Cassel goes 11-5 and misses the playoffs due to the tiebreaker one year after the team goes 18-1. Meanwhile the Colts go to the playoffs in Luck's first year as a pro with a 10-6 record after going 2-14 without Manning.
2. Yes Tom Brady had great defenses for the 3 SBs, but so did Montana. In fact, he had no worse than a top 7 defense in each and every SB year.
3. Tom Brady did not lose anything. He drove the team down the field for a TD in both SB losses. He sat on the bench having gotten his team the lead with not much time left. Up to the defense to stop Eli Manning and the Giants offense. Defense failed him, his game-leading drives went to waste and the Pats lose the SB.
4. "If the Seahawks ran the ball, we wouldn't be having this conversation." - If Marshawn Lynch punching in at the goal line was so guaranteed, then why was it that he was stuffed TWICE from one yard out by the Patriots on that very drive? Also if Kearse didn't have that miracle of a catch, the Seahawks wouldn't be anywhere NEAR the goal line.
I don't think he took in the suck for luck strategy
+YTUBE508 TOTALLY agree with number 4 everyone refuses to bring up how the Seahawks got to the goal line.
+YTUBE8 get off Brady's nuts... whole organization is full of frauds
The Seahawks would have made it to the Goal Line Anyway.
You can't say that because you don't know. The Patriots put up an amazing defensive stand that game and it was very likely that they would have stopped them from scoring.
Tom brady is no doubt the best Qb to play the game
Dude literally the whole time you were ranting about how Montana is #1 and how Brady isn't the best. I'm more than open for a debate but you seemed like you were trying to take away from Brady's accomplishments throughout his career. It was pretty funny to listen to considering he's broken nearly all of Montanas records.
Yeah this was extremely annoying to me lol
Yeah we get that he is a niner fan
Becoming the 2nd best qb of all time is a HUGE ASS accomplishment
Jack pepper
But he's the greatest..
+shoopdawhoop217 he's the second greatest
"I ain't talking shit about TB12" *Proceeds to shit on TB the whole video*
He's a dumb ass man. Contradicted himself throughout the whole video
Brady over Joe when it's all said and done. Moss over Rice because Moss didn't need Stickum.
+EclipzGT4K lol I feel you. The gloves they use are better then stickum
+MilesDawkins247 Is this dude serious!? Mannnn, Lester Hayes use to cover himself in that stuff head to toe thinking he could get an interception with his legs if the ball landed there back in the 70s. The gloves they use these days are bad but in the legal limits.
I don't get why Brady gets the blame for the two sb losses. In both games Brady had drove down the field and scored but left like two minutes on the clock and the defense let up a touchdown. So if anything id think those Ls would hinder that "monster defense's" legacy
If you compare Joe Montana's stats to tom Brady's, tom Brady kills Joe Montana in every category, tom Brady has more comeback wins in the fourth quarter, tom Brady has the best win ratio in super bowl history, all those things surpass his 2 loses in the Super Bowls and puts him over Joe Montana.
(By super bowl history I mean the super bowl era)
not trying to argue, but 4:0 > 4:2 lol do your math.
+parks true....but 4 rings are shared by both, that along with how Brady is superior in every single Stat rises him above Montana
+parks 4-2>4-0
Señor Sandwich De Mojon so 4-2, where 2 were won because of a ref and an opposing coach and the other 2 being off a field goal over 80 yard drives lol aight. and if you divide, tom brady's win ratio is a 2 compared to montana's 4, so i was right by saying 4-0>4-2.
lol literally everyone passed on brady.
"2nd greatest" *cough* *cough* you mean best?
In madden 2002 o the GameCube Tom Brady was in the game and he was 51 overall.
Probably one of those dudes whose team lost to tom brady numerous times 😂😂😂
Look man, I respect your opinion that Montana is better, but Brady did more with less. He did have Moss and Gronk, but after that it takes a massive drop. You keep on mentioning Montana's great achievements in the Super Bowl, and Montana is one of the greats, but not even Joe Montana was able to lead his team back from a 10 point deficit in the super bowl and win. Only one man has been able to do that, and he is Tom Brady. Every record Montana set, Brady beat it. Again, no disrespect to Montana, but I think Brady is the GOAT. Of course in a perfect world he'll win his fifth next year and end this debate
rings don't equate to how good a player is. From that logic, any qb to every win a superbowl is better than Dan Marino. It takes a TEAM to win. Is Devin McCourty the greatest safety of all time if he were to have 4 superbowls?
It does take a team to win, but a quarterback is different because he is the leader of the team. That's why people regard Brady and Montana over everyone else.
+Sketti n Butter I appreciate you helping me but plz calm down with using autisim as an insult... I am autistic
+Sketti n Butter So you pick only one point in his argument and ignore the rest? Cool
I like the way you said that "more with less"
yea Wes welker dropped a wide open pass to lose us the super bowl against the giants and the helmet catch is complete luck so know your football
I'll help you out bud *Tom Brady the greatest qb of all time**** there you go bud
ugh yes
yes
Nah, I disagree
Joe is better
Bruh I was playing madden 15 draft champs and got 99 tom Brady 😂
I know that Joe Montana might've been better in the Super Bowl but over the course of his career Brady was better
Completely Agree
agreed
Aaron Rodgers is better
Michael Moely ok cheese head keep dreaming 😂
Tom Brady led what would have been game winning drives in both those games, but both times the defense choked and the giants had two ridiculous catches (tyree, manningham) meanwhile the greatest slot receiver of all time(as you said) dropped a crucial 3rd down catch
+Fil H facts. But that's why I asked if the first three Super Bowls had more to do with Brady or the pats D
If the bengals corner didn't drop a easy pick in the redzone Joe Montana would be 3-1 in super bowls. Also Joe Montana never had a season where he threw for more then 4,000 yards, Brady has 7 times and threw over 5,000 1 season. Joe Montana was way more of a system QB because Steve Young won the super bowl with the same team after Montana was gone. I hate Brady but he is by far better then Montana was.
The Pats were 16-0 the year before Cassel went 11-5. That's a big difference.
+Shaggywolf34 thats true. 5 games is big, but 8 games is bigger.
***** Yep. But, I do think the Cots probably lost some games on purpose so they could get Luck.
L for saying Brady's 2nd all time
+LOUIS TRETOLA LOL ill take that L if you can tell me what makes him better the Montana
^^^
+MilesDawkins247 Brady has more regular season wins, better winning percentage in regular season, 1,000 more completions, 13,000 more yards,119 more TDS, better qb rating, better playoff record, more passing yards and tds in playoffs, more game winning drives in playoffs, the list keeps going fam Brady is the GOAT #numbersneverlie
+LOUIS TRETOLA statistics don't always proof things..💯..
+Ricardio Johnson yea they don't Brady is my favorite player but even ik that . that's like Kobe and lebron even though lebron has the edge statisticly Kobe is still better
Haha "his momma probably loves him" haha I'm weak
This is some of the dumbest reasoning I've ever heard. If you actually dissect their careers like you claim to have done, you'd realize a few things
1. Brady has more regular season and postseason wins, and a better win % than Montana.
2. Brady has more game winning drives and 4th quarter comebacks, postseason and regular seasons, than Montana.
3. The regular season stats are not close. Brady is better in every category
4. The AFC was a joke during montanas era. The NFC won 15 out of 16 Super Bowls after montanas first. His SB stats were great because those AFC teams were trash. People act like he was flawless in postseason but he was bounced in the first round three straight years with a total of zero TDs, 4 picks, and roughly 53% passing.
5. Brady plays in the salary cap era. I know this is seen as a nerdy argument but the fact is, without a salary cap, teams who hit in the draft can hang onto those players indefinitely. Brady had two seasons with Moss, and Gronk has been his most consistent receiver otherwise (albeit with a lot of injuries). I won't bore you with the list of players that the Pats have had to let walk each year but suffice to say, Brady has thrown to many many more irrelevant receivers than Montana.
6. I don't wanna hate on Joe Montana cuz he held the GOAT belt for 25 years so this one is just to show some respect lol
Deion Branch won MVP in super bowl 39 with this stat line
11 receptions for 239 yards and 2 touchdowns.
He might've been Bradys greatest weapon ever.
You say if the seahawks would have ran the ball Tom would be 3-3. The seahawks shouldn't have been at that position on the field, they had a lucky catch. Also both of the super bowls against the giants they had extremely lucky plays that allowed them to win. Also you said Wes Welker is the greatest slot receiver ever, he dropped a wide open pass that would have allowed that patriots to win another super bowl.
thank you
pats fans think everyone that's beats them is luck smh. Just take the loss. Tyree out jumped Harrison and caught the ball with 2 hands initially then he had to pin it to his head if that was any of the 3 WRs that were starting over him at the time it would have been a clean catch. Also how is Manning threading the ball to Manningham luck? Pats fan logic seems to be "any other team plays football correctly vs us is lucky"
He didn't say everything was luck, but you cannot deny the Kearse catch was all luck. It literally bounced perfectly into his hands and it took no skill.
GamingUltima yeah but I don't see how the helmet catch was luck Harrison got beat by Tyree for the 2nd time that game (once for a TD in his zone) or the Welker drop the pass was way behind him
+ihatetumblr dude Eli literally avoided 4 tackles on the play. plus he caught the ball on his helmet!! ON HIS HELMET! that's not luck??!? if that's not luck I don't even know what is luck. smh dude
He didn't even mention Tom's super bowl 49 performance because he knew that truly put Tom ahead of Montana as the GOAT
when you watch a 49ers fan, you have to hear this nonsense!
Im a 49ers fan but I think that Tom Brady is the best quarterback who ever played the ball game
In my book Tom Brady's at the bottom of all the qbs in history
And when you think about it Tom has been to 6 SBs and prolly going to more. He's already the GOAT but what'll happen when he adds another Ring ??
All you say for joe is how he was undefeated in super bowl but I believe the 49ers defense was better than the patriots and I also believe by far Brady is a much more accurate passer than joe was just my opinion
Pats never won a super bowl without a top 10 scoring defense. Those pats defenses were better than any that the niners had besides the 84 season.
Lets not forget how in the 2011-2012 season when they went to the Superbowl they had the 2nd worst defense in the league....
James X but in points allowed they were ranked 15th. Overall defense is irrelevant since the team with the most yards doesn't win the game
ihatetumblr They were still the worst defense to ever make a superbowl.
ihatetumblr I never said that. I am simply saying that they were the worst defense of all time to make a Superbowl.
Tom Brady has led his team to a lead changing drive in the 4th quarter ALL SIX TIMES. No one else has EVER done this, no one else has even come close, and as long as we live and breathe on this earth NO ONE WILL EVER DO IT AGAIN. EVAH!!!! Tom Brady=Greatest Of All Time. No one else is even close.
+Ari Carlat lol, well his the only one to start at qb in six SBs so your right. but with that logic Elway is second because he went to 5 Jim Kelly is 3rd because he went to 4 straight. and terry Bradshaw and Montana are tied for 4th because the both won 4 and have no Ls in the big game...... and we all know thats not true. so this argument is good but C'mon man.
+MilesDawkins247 What I'm saying is that in both SB's that he lost he put his team in front in the 4th quarter and it was our D that lost the game
Michael Bishop da best QB of all time tbqh
To be fair, many people across pro football believe the colts didn't go down accidently. The "suck for luck" campaign is believed to be a real thing.
Tom Brady is the goat! Repping Michigan for me!
That was a 92 Yard drive in Super Bowl XXIII when John Taylor made the catch lol #lovethechannel
I can love with second it is hard to judge before Brady's career is over
+Patriots For life /NM that's very true
In madden 11 they just didn't want to give Brady good throw on the run so then he wouldn't be a 99
It’s weird watching this in 2020 knowing he’s now went to 9 and won 6 Super Bowls
Who came back after he won his 7 ring 🐐
Every team me he says 2nd best it's like a mosquito flying around. You don't want it to irritate you but you know it does.
ELI MANNING JUST THE BEST PLAYOFFS QB OF ALL TIME
can you do a Steve Smith Senior through the years?
It seems this video was made before Super Bowl 51. What is your opinion of Brady now after watching the latest Super Bowl?
The reason he lost those two superbowls wasn't due to the offense it was because the defense let up two unbelivable plays.
When Brady lost those two Superbowls he didn't have a healthy Gronk and on BOTH occasions he brought them back and the defense choked! I still say to this day that if the "Calvin Johnson" rule had been in effect the Tyree catch would have been ruled a drop!
And by the way 4:2 just means that Brady win 3 more conference championships than montano wins so 6>4
When he said Montana was the best QB of all time i died laughing and when he said Brady was ass in his first years💀💀
+Tanner Winn and I laugh when people don't like what I say but can't prove me wrong.
Boi i can to prove you wrong
in his first five seasons he won 3 super bowls oh and has broken every record of Montana's so....i can go on if you want me too
what's the category oh that's song at madden 16 and what's it called on royalty free music
The only reason why the Patriots lost those 2 super bowls is because their defense sucked. He carried the team both those years
+TubbyTheodore that's true. And that's why a asked if the first 3 Super Bowls had more to do with the patriots defense and not so much with tom Brady. Not saying that they would win without Brady. But would Brady win without that defense
***** They definitely would've lost to the Rams if Belichick didn't decide to go for the win with almost no time. I think the major factor was the chemistry between The HC,OC, and DC in the first 3 super bowls and it took them a while to find that chemistry again
If Troy Brown Had played as a 2nd string or better in the 8 years till 2001, once he earned the starting position, he would be HOF caliber.
Thank you. "The Catch" wasn't THAT spectacular
You know Tom Brady was at that game when "The Catch" happened
Brady was in the PS1 version of Madden 01 and the XBOX version of Madden 02.
Tom Brady actually would have won 6/6, but the Giants made a clutch catch in both games, if anything it was he defences fault for not stopping those catches
Clutchest: Montana
Best Reg Season Player : Manning
Best Postseason Player : Brees
Winningest: Brady
Montana: 4-0 in Super bowls
Manning: 5 mvps, 539 TDs, 55 in 2013
Brees: 24-6 TD-Int ratio 295 ypg
Brady: 200 something wins
I hate when people try to compare Brady and Montana. They played in two different eras, why can't we just agree that they were the GOATs of their own generation. Quit comparing and enjoy Brady's career, until it's over and you realize you forgot to enjoy how great he was.
i agree...
how you gone hang that he lost two SB to Eli over his head when both times freak catches/plays the reason they lost, not him throwing a pic, but his defense getting mossed. Then you proceed to say if the seahawks woulda ran or any other excuse it'll be a different story. You are just bios and thats cool, but you cant be a hypocrite too.
Madden 06 on the 360 looks like it could be the graphics for madden 23 they look so good
the change in graphics from madden 2001 & madden 05 to present days Madden 16 is insane.
need a side by side to compare the graphical boost & leap in tech from a decade ago.
U gotta keep in mind that Brady put the pats in the lead in both super bowls vs giants and the defense let up the score at the last second. It wasn't Brady's fault
Tom Brady has more game winning drives
I agree with you about Brady. He's a system guy. Dan and Peyton and think are the best of all time
Espn football actually had great graphics and mechanics for its time holy shit
That's weird... I own the GameCube port and Tom Brady is in that version of Madden NFL 2002. His 2001 portrait, his info and his official attributes are in it. How he's missing on the PS2 version of that is mind-boggling.
99 overall in madden 15 was the end of year, I think at the begging he was 93 overall
Failed to mention that Brady was hurt the season they missed the playoffs. (Still went 11-5 without him.)
Going 4-2 in Super Bowls is better than going 4-0 unless you think losing conference championship games makes you better somehow
David patten has got to be the clutchiest receiver for the patriots in my opinion.
They won 10 games because the year before they had the best offense of all time. That team was so talented that they made Matt Casel look ok. They had the second best receiver of all time in moss and the best coach of all time. With out looking at the records, without Brady they lose 6 more games... seems like a huge difference to me.
+Vikings123456789 and this year jimmy g. Is undefeated and Brady has a lost. And I would beat that the D that year had a lot to do with the 5 more loses because that pays went 11-5 with casel
MilesDawkins247 jimmy only played in 2 games tho... and it's hard to game plan around a person who hasn't played a snap of football in the NFL. I do agree with you on the defense being a key component but they were no where near the level they were on in 03. That offense was lights out. It was 10-6 not 11-5. One last thing... you don't have moss at 2?!!? Defenses created cover 4 to stop that man! Also love the videos man, always entertaining.
Tom Brady had better stats than Montana. Wes being the "best" slot receiver dropped an open pass that would have gave them another SB win.
Oh ya and Tom is called "the comeback kid" for a reason
Before you read the rest hear this. I am a Pats fan but have done some research on my own about the times of the two players. Of Montana and of today and Brady, and if anyone want's to make corrections or suggestions in a civilized and intelligent manner, they will be appreciated and considered. But a ratio of Superbowl wins means nothing to me about a players skill, so please come up with another stat, as winning the SB is about the team not the individual player.
Well the thing is that Brady and Montana's situations were fairly different. Before Bill Walsh, the 49ers quarterback was one of the worst in the league with something like a 45% accuracy and 22 interceptions, but had a 60% accuracy and 12 interception season next year with Walsh. When Montana came he was put into Walsh's system which was very new and mostly untested, so a lot of teams just couldn't find a solution to both Montana's skill, and the offensive strategy put in place. But with Brady, the West Coast Offense is still highly effective if done right, but has been in the league for years and counters have been created, which makes Brady's job much harder. I'm not saying Montana was bad, he was great, but the achievements that Brady has accomplished, with the same general offensive strategy that has been seen for years and has been accounted for, is extremely impressive. I think Montana would have never gotten as far as he did without Bill Walsh. Also a 4-2 Superbowl ratio is still nothing to joke about as like I said earlier, Brady's performance could be the best in history and he could still lose the game because of the defense, and he could do nothing about it.
Jamal Charles through the years PLEASE!!!
You forgot. Welker is also the most unclutch. In the Super Bowl he had an awful drop. The year after in the afc championship against the Ravens he had 3 drops in one game in key situations.
+ghopghopp I didn't for get that. Where I'm coming from is this. The two SBs vs the Giants should have never been that close in the first place. But your right he should have made those catches. But if that's the case maybe Brady doesn't really make he's team mates better?
That is ridiculous. Edelman and amendola would never see the field if it was not for Brady. He made Branch into a superbowl MVP. Also by the way The patriots were 16-0 the year before Brady got hurt and Cassel went 11-5. So they got 5 games worse without him. The reason what happened with Manning getting hurt is that one the colts head coach is was terrible and two they lost players in free agency that year.
you've earn my subscription, keep this series up
3rd for me
1. Joe Montana
2. Aaron Rodgers
3. Tom Brady
4. Bretton Faroe
5. John Eleway
6. My Man! Matt Ryan! (I'm biased as a falcons fan)
I don't think it's fair to take away from what Tom Brady has done by saying things like "Viniateri got all those field goals".They didn't just call fair catch and told him to go out there and kick a 80 yarder. No. Someone had to go out there with less than 2 minutes left and drive them down into field goal range to win the games. And if you start taking away those field goals then why dont we take away other teams last minute field goals and little things that could change the outcome?
+Braverman9 Plays tom Brady is the man. I'll I was saying is that getting a TD is more impressive to me then getting in field goal range
Gronkowski was injured in the super bowl against the giants, and I'm guessing Welker was drunk on the last play
Champ Baily, Troy Polamalu (spelled wrong) and Brett Favre
what he says about how the Montana-led super bowl game winning drive against the bengals was more impressive than Brady's , leaves out that Montana had 3:10 left in the clock at their 8 yard line when Brady had 1:21 at the 17 yard line against rams and 1:08 at the 40 yard line. Im a huge fan of Joe Montana but a bigger Tom Brady fan since I go for the patriots but I believe brady's drives were better in my opinion due to the circumstances they consisted of.
i understand when joe montana played it wasn't a passing league but my boy tb12 has an insane TD-INT ratio. Brady is definitely one of the most accurate qbs to ever play the game if you look at the stats. brady is a winner and will find away no matter what obstacles are in the way. he's probably a top 2 if not #1 for qbs ever. i was listening to what you said about joe montana winning all of his super bowls in his prime which is great. but brady winning over the course of his career is great in a way. he's 38 and winning super bowls and same with manning. to me that's impressive. i'm a pats fan and i seem biased but we should really look at how accurate brady is which is insane.
Lmao every team passed on the GOAT
yeah, the tuck rule actually came in AGAINST the Patriots in week 6 that same year for the Jets.
+Eric Chester week 6 vs the jets.... Big difference then in the 4th quarter of a playoff game
MilesDawkins247 rules are rules, doesn't matter it is preseason. Don't get me wrong, I HATE the Pats, but not because of the tuck rule. they are simply all around cheaters themselves!
I love how when people bring up 49 it's all about not giving it to Lynch, let's ignore Brady made the most completions in super bowl history and had one of if not the best 4th quarter performances of all time, and also in the two giants games there's not much you can do when there front 7 played like they did, when you have pressure in your face most every play its hard to be productive and Eli was good to save his one mistake free game for when it counted cause let's face it when the defense plays amazing you just gotta be a game manager (2016 Broncos) but still even though Tom is my all time favorite player I do say he's #2 all time unless he gets his 5th, if he gets his 5th I don't care what anyone says he would go down as the greatest
People don't realize Brady is literally the most clutch man alive
+RRLetsPlays definitely, if Belichick calls a field goal on 4th and 6 in the AFC title game the Pats would've been playing the Panthers, the end off that AFC title game was all Brady and Gronk
Michael Bishop is one of the greatest collegiate players of all time. He lead KSU to their first NO. 1 ranking and he would have taken them to a National Championship if they hadn't dropped the last game to TAMU. So... Put some Respek on his name! Lol loved the vid though.
Damn right!
Your videos are well put together, consistently. you deserve a lot more subs man
Without a doubt he is the goat Brady is the best qb to ever play the sport
Well when Montana comes back from a 28-3 deficit to win and complete the greatest comeback in super bowl history and get his 5th ring call me
Oh Rex grossman was for sure the best qb. God how did he even make Super Bowl 41
It's crazy to think what would have happened had Oakland won that game
It's honestly really hard to compare 2 players from 2 different eras.
Not sure how the Vin. field goals have anything to do with his tarnishing his legacy. He led the drives to get the field goal into position with very little time on the clock.
Vin didn't get into field goal range himself.
+Myles Hejmanowski very true. but whats harder getting in to FG range or getting a TD. and saying that me call him the 2nd best qb of all time is tarnishing his legacy is pretty dumb
As of right now Tom Brady is the greatest of all-time!
Gotta fact check you. They won in 2001, missed the playoffs in 2002, then won the super bowl in 2003,2004
+Will Desperado what did I say?
he just forgets to say that in the 2 superbowls he lost he put there team in a position to win and the defense couldnt make a stop both times undone by miricle catches
I mean sure he had moss and welker. But he got robbed by the luckiest catch in NFL history. Calvin Johnson is the greatest WR of all time in my eyes.