Thanks for you comments! We appreciate your insights and have been following your channel for some time now. Just a couple of things we thought should be clarified though. This is not a recruitment video. This is actually just a small part of an educational package for the FDF conscripts aimed to give them a glimpse about what it COULD look like if Finland would be drawn to war. No Hollywood here, just pretty realistic shots of the action. Recruitment is not an issue in the Finnish Defence Forces since we have a conscription based system. That system actually provides the FDF with first grade, professional level personnel for peace and war time service. The war time personnel is highly educated (including the officers, NCO’s and rank and file): practically everyone in the war time roster has a higher or vocational training. The reserve troops are getting refreshment training in a constant cycle to keep the FDF ready at all times. This creates a fighting force that is highly versatile and cohesive, with every member being able to take the initiative if necessary. A force comprised of real, intelligent and capable citizen soldiers who are defending their homes and families and take this responsibility seriously. That ”Home Depo” scene is pretty accurate. Those guys are actually trained reservist who are getting back to military setting. After they get their gear sorted out they set it up and start the refresher training with their unit. No need to yell at their faces either: They’re grown up men and women who know what they are doing and what’s at stake here. It is definitely not an insult to be called a conscript. The case is quite the contrary with the conscript readiness units: the members of the units are volunteers. The units are equipped and trained to be rapidly deployed to counter ”rapid changes in the security environment”. The fact that they are mentioned means that stuff just got serious. The Defence Forces also traditionally has a high approval rating within the population, 82% in the last poll in 2019. Part of this is very likely because of the conscription system. Roughly 75% of the male population and a constantly rising number of volunteer women complete their military service. This means that practically every family has had their members serve in the military at some point in time. There’s really no need to argue about the taxes spend for the national defence as everyone basically understands why it is necessary. That also means that there are no stolen valor village idiots, as you called them, in Finland 😄 You see people in military uniform on public places daily. You’re spot on with the hurry up and wait phase being missing from this movie. We’re trying to address that element as well as other not so sexy parts of the military in our channel videos. In this case it wouldn’t been practical: Wouldn’t want the the film to be 4 hours long. Oh yeah, about the Day-Night thing: It actually doesn’t get dark during the summer here in the north. During the winter months on the other hand, it’s pretty dark no matter what time of the day it is, so we got some experience on fighting in the dark too 😎
IIRC Finland has mandatory conscription, and so those scenes in the "home depot" weren't random untrained civilians being given rifles and kevlar, they were reservists or people who had been through military training and were attached to a unit, and they were simply being issued their gear. Also conscript doesn't really seem like an insult in Finland, just a neutral term to describe people completing mandatory military service (which is the definition of conscription, so kudos for honesty, and not hiding behind some softer term, like other countries with a draft or mandatory service often do).
At the end of the day, videos like these are morale boosters for people who are being forced into military service. When I hear the term conscript, I think, a few steps above being a slave. Rough, but if you live in a small country that borders the largest country on Earth and have also been hostile to you in the past, then you don't really have much of a choice.
I have a lot of respect for the Finish People and their military. They are the modern day Sparta of of Europe. These people are fighting for their homes and families.
Finnish conscript here. Definitely not an insult for me, rather an honor. Love to serve my country, be it mandatory or not. Will certainly apply for a job in the FDF.
"I would expect air support"....yeah well when you serve in the US military which has about 13000 manned aircraft compared to Finlands 200, you would expect but be left wanting! We have 130 helicopters which are mainly used for troop transport and 55 fighters that will mainly be taking care of air to air threats. We do it old school, greetings from Finland.
I agree with you. And the Finish know how to do defend themselves without a big air support. The americans don't know how to do that... that was why it's so difficult to James understood! But he will understand if he will study how you guys deffended your country against russians and germans in the II World War.
@@RicardoMartins67 actually we fought Winter War 1939-40 alone against the Soviets (apart from very few volunteers mainly from Sweden and Denmark; thx to the Swedish F19 fighter squadron in Lapland!) and a second war WITH the Germans 1941-44 (this is called the Continuation War in Finland) against the Soviets. We were forced by the USSR to fight the German forces out of the country due to separate peace with the Soviets. This resulted in Lapland War 1944-45 against Germany. Bottom line is that without the immense supply of fighter aircraft, tanks, munitions and other supplies from the Germans we might be speaking Finnish in Siberia...
Addition to this is that the Finnish coast has a lot of people living there and they are expected to continue living there later on :D Would the marine expect heavy air support bombing the shit out of manhattan if it was occupied by foreign green men :D I don't think that would be the case..
Finland has mandatory conscription, all these people in this video are real soldiers and people in reserve. Also the news anchors are real and well known too.
@@ristuksenvittu not really. It's the only reason a huge country with a small population, like Finland, can keep their defense budget low. Have you been in the military? I'm pretty sure this is one of the first thing they teach conscripts, why they are there at all.
It's more like an "introduction" video for Finnish conscripts and people in general. We have a conscription system and about 80-90 % of Finnish males in every age group serve in the military for 6-12 months. Being called a conscript is not an insult to most people, as it is simply what most our war time military would be. I'm serving as a profession and it's my personal calling, but not everyone is like this (which is most certainly not a negative thing lol). Greetings from Finland!
@Iain Bailey I also think it does most people good. Not everyone is gonna become a soldier, but everyone learns or atleast sees some basic discipline, group work and how to get over hardships. It's a very maturing experience for those who choose it to be that. And I'm old fashioned in the sense that I see defending the homeland and your people as a basic duty of every healthy full grown male. You gotta atleast know the basics.
Tbh the only thing i don't like about conscript is that you have a big change that the moral will be very low with some people. Like most of them don't want to fight. Good example is Germany WW2 Allot of them didn't want to fight and that defiantly happend at the end of the war with Germany. But i like that you can have peace time that you can have mandatory service. So like with Finland and Isreal if war breaks out they will have army that is trained really well. So you have reserves that already discipline
In northern Finland sun does not set at all from May to August, while further south the sun can be visible for nearly around the clock during June and July. So no matter what time of the day they attack.
My grandfather moved from Finland to the United States in the early 1900s. So more than likely some of my distant relatives fought in the winter war. Glory to Finland!
professional recruitment of high caliber brains can be hard for them. but yeah the dude commenting doesn't seem to know that you get conscripted so for that level it's not a problem to recruit.
@@FJ24. Same here...From a country that have only a mandatory army...It is what it is...Everyone who serves in the military is basically a conscript...
1234 • ? What, I don’t get it. Pretty sure we have a massive military and bases all over the world and export an insane amount of military technology. But I might be wrong :) greetings from U.S
Burnt waffle 55 it was just a light diss but ik that the US military helps out with a lot and I appreciate that but what I meant was for the past 20 years they have been in the Middle East for unnecessary amount of time
@@RCShufty In my experience, Finnish conscripts tend to be exactly that nowadays. My squad was severely dysfunctional with almost everyone slacking off and being selfish dicks.
@@RCShufty Definitely not, but I wouldn't change the system either. I had a lot of shitty times out there and a lot of good ones too, but the take-home, the sum of it all is simply priceless.
16:45 On attacks happening at night. You do understand that in Finland at summer, it is only minor difference between night and day. There is sunlight on nights too.
An interesting note you might enjoy: Finnish Lapland is the only area in the European Union which is cleared for live artillery fire, and the Finnish military has one of the most experienced and large artillery corps as a direct result.
So lucky. I attended an event from the German Army/Airforce and they showed us basically all around helicopters. Sad thing being: there are so many idiots who live in the villages etc around bases and complain about the noise even going as far as filing complaints at the police. We can't even train our pilots or what? There is I think one range in Germany they are allowed to train with life ammunition. We really need conscription/civil services back like we had about 20 years ago. And look at what the German military has become. Really jeaouls at Finland still having it
Finland has conscription so every male above the age of 18 has to join the army unless they have medical or moral reasons to not join. These kinda videos are a boost of morale for fins who are currently doing or are about to start their military experience. It's not that we have difficulty getting the numbers as high as wanted, but the videos idea is to show the people what they are training for. I was in the army when this came out and it felt good to see this kinda propaganda video that showed aspects of things I have learned in my time in the army.
@@Vollification you did everything short of going into war yourselves, which we Finns need to respect. You have my thanks for all the material, volunteers and taking in refugees.
Finland has EUROPES BIGGEST ARTILLERY, AND SECOND LARGEST MANPOWER BY ALMOST 1MILLION TRAINED MEN. Finlands military is in best shape of all the nordic countries. And those command centres are located in reality too, somewhere in Finland. Maybe next time old school marine can do fact checking before watching? (=
Lol. Hey he’s used to wrestling bears with his own bare hands after they stole his crayons. He doesn’t need to research anything, Unless it has crayons.
+ over 1,5million small arms owned by civilians. Many train with AR-15 and AK type weapons too in their free time and participate in military courses in reserve. We got guns and no one is going to take them away.
Do you think the USA has time to put their "best" into a training exercise, when they are busy over seas kicking ass? The US will send guys who could use the exercise.
@eddie money only paper tiger is China. And the correct term is paper dragon after they got bitch slapped on the border by India. America has some of the best Naval and Aviation in the world. There is a reason only select allies are allowed the F35 and no one is allowed our F22s. We also have the most aircraft carriers in the world bar none. We spend the most money in the world for a reason.
here's translation about this video: "Battlefield 2020 is an instructional video specifically for conscript training. The video is part of the combat training instructional material given in the beginner period and in the non-commissioned and reserve officer courses. The video is also used in the training of reservists and staff. The purpose of the battlefield is to give trainees a realistic picture of the Defense Forces as a whole, the circumstances and operating environment of exceptional circumstances, as well as threat models and readiness regulation. The Defense Forces Service Center has produced an educational film commissioned by the General Staff Training Department during 2016-2020. The film replaces the previous Battlefield film released in 1998. According to Major Ville Kostian, the project manager of the battlefield learning material, the instructional videos aim to illustrate phenomena that are difficult to highlight in other ways. - Videos often show problem situations, but above all solutions to solve them. In a contact teaching situation, the discussion with the trainer about the topic or phenomenon presented in the teaching video is central, Kostian says. - The battlefield is the view of Finnish experts in the field of what war could be like today. Our goal has been to describe it to the trainees as realistically as possible."
This is not a recruitment video as we have a mandatory military service. Taistelukenttä movies are usually shown to new conscripts during their basic training.
Yea that was then. Russia may be a declining nation but it's still in the top 5 biggest Militaries. If they decided to hit the Finns today. it will be over very fast. Especially if they out right hit them with the thought of winning before the UN cries about it and helps them.
I think you’re being unfair. This programme is made as information about how Finland would react to an invasion attempt. For European countries there is no such thing as an overseas war. The fight would be at our doorstep and the first to take the brunt would be currently serving conscripts and career military personnel, ie. navy, airforce and a few tier one SF ready for direct action stuff. It would be their job to give the mobilization of conscript trained soldiers enough time to equip and organize into fighting units. What you see as the home depot scene is actually conscript defence force being done right!
@@Aurinkohirvi a few units are sent as peace keeping troops but european countries are mainly prepared for an attack right at their doorstep. We are not surrounded by 2 oceans on either side and have peaceful neighbours we have to be prepared for anything.
@@reptile_loki Right now there's conflicts with European troops in Afghanistan and Mali (or wider, Maghreb area really). The war in Afghanistan is fought by NATO, and the war was declared by the USA, it was the first time article 5 was invoked and a NATO country claimed it was attacked. It's an attacking war and other European NATO countries joined it. That UN sent later troops to protect Kabul, does not change it. There's also European special forces troops operating in Syria, but those work under secrecy, like they did in Libya. A bit earlier there was a major war in Iraq with many European countries. None of these peace keeping operations.
@@montanaf2286 We have news about the Finnish troops in Afghanistan too. But our medias suck. News coverage from Syria was very biased, and news from Yemen or the Maghreb conflict are really thin.
Living in Finland. Finnish fear a Russian invasion as they have bad memories (only force to resist and to Soviet Union during WWII, better than German Army). The country is small (5 millions people) but entirely organised to mobilise the whole population. Almost everyone know what do do. Infrastructure are very well thought and organised and Finns are very well organised and serious people. They have very modern equipment.
@@Leo_Dzen when theres nothing to be ashamed, that we (finns) don't give our rights. we sided with nazi germany, because no one else came to help us after winter war. and survived the war, unlike many germanys allies who got puppeted by ruskies.
@@Leo_Dzen Braindead lies? I bet you swallow RT lies that said Putin wasn't invading Georgia, or Ukraine in 2014, or that Chechnya was justified, or Ukraine in 2022.
Hey, the film is mainly about entertainment and how we would react to attacks coming at Finland. Army is mandatory for us so it's not about recruiment. Greetings from Finland!
I remember their war against the USSR. Finland is not a walk-over. The people there have big hearts and are tough. I have a few buddies over there with hunting licenses. I always joke that they send me pics of road kills. Moral of the story: They know how to live outdoors in harsh conditions. They have incredible marksmanship. They are loyal. They are tough. And I love their accent!
@@kolekole6017 To win a war you do not have to have a big air force, or tank battalions, or.... you need heart. A purpose. Good leaders. Good strategists. Be willing to kill. Be willing to die. You can go underground and fight a guerrilla war that will eventually defeat the enemy. The Fins have all of those traits.
Just Skip Sweden supported Finland immensly during WW2. Not a whole lot of Soldiers, but Sweden is one of the biggest weapon transporters in the world, so the Fins had gear.
@@danielg2294 Sweden also took care of many of the children that had to flee from Finland. Many of them never returned to home and stayed in Sweden after the war.
Tossing your issue gear in a cart actually seems more efficient than lugging it in your arms and dropping it everywhere. Tell you what, after leaving the Corps after 10 years, going ANG and then active AF, I learned there's a lot of stuff that can be accomplished without screaming at people. Now there are knuckleheads everywhere that need a good yell, but sometimes calm and planned out procedures work just fine.
For me as a Finnish soldier, it's a motivational video. Like it probably was meant to be. I'm an old man, but I know I have a place if there's a war on Finland.
@@miikapaananen1363 maybe 20 years ago but today they are just sad. Have you been there resently. Meteos 95 % of them. They can't protect their own women.
@@michaelpetrovich5353 we had to become tough with war skills and attitude during WW1 and WW2. Sweden has had peaceful times more than 200 years. This is very long time. Norwegians have also more recent WW2 experiences.
As a Finn, Now that the Ukrainian War has emerged, I have GOT to laugh on the sarcasm presented here on your comments! And no pun intended! Your comments are brilliant =) No enemy is that stupid, unless they underestimate their enemy 50x! But now.... After following what is going on in Ukraine, I think differently. Not to undermine the mighty Ukrainian defence, but boy are the Russians really underestimating everyone and everything.. or at least Putler is! But yea... all my prayers to the mighty Ukrainians, so that they would preserve their independence and live as a free nation!
Ukraine essentially did at the start what Finland did but much less well equipped and without such a long tradition of training and readiness, with reforms in training and individual initiative only since 2014. For example, the Russians took Hostomel Airport much as the airport in the early stages of the video was taken (surprised attack of helicopter-dropped VDV rather than faking a mayday landing - but essentially the same concept). Because Finland could react fast as simulated, they blocked the runway with trucks. Ukraine did it by cratering the runway.
Identifying the enemy: there is a saying that the enemy always attacks from the east, and if they happen to attack from the west, then it is a flanking maneuver ;-)
Yes, due historical reasons Finland has decided to not name the enemy during any training but the officers may use the example you provided in practice.
Glad you enjoyed it here. But actually you do need a fishing license if you're going to fish with a reel rod. For normal worm-hook-rod thingy or ice fishing, you don't need a license :) by bunch of lakes you mean around 188,000 lakes ;D
Jonski so many lakes yes. Wow i was told by our stewardess that we didnt need a license if we fished from the shore because i love fishing but maybe she wasnt sure because she doesnt fish. Anyways i immidately fell in love with Finland. The city was so clean!! There was no trash lying around, no run down buildings, no graffiti. We were in Helsinki and wow was it so cool. The day we were there (9 hour layover on our way back from Greece) we got to go by the docks close to train station and they had a little market/ arts and crafts fair and we had for our very first time moose pie and rain deer pies. Oh man it was so good!!! I would love to go back and my wife shares the same feeling too! What a great country and a great people everyone was so nice and very very cool
And many times in Last 10 years, us soldiers have been training in finland with finnish troops and all the time they are surprised by finlands military and professionalism
Especially in winter conditions, us soldiers have been the guys Who are most tired compared to finnish or swedish soldiers, they cant take the Hard weather conditions as well
It’s quite surprising that what is considered such a minor nation in today’s standards was able to hold off such a terrible force as the Soviet Union. Yet when you hear of legends such as Simo OHaya and Lauri Torni, it doesn’t seem as far fetched. Greetings from the UK brother!
We once were, but when I look at my nation today, not so sure... People all over the west are getting soft. Not all the progress we've had is bad, but it's clearly making us softer and weaker as a people. Greetings from Finland to UK anyway!
@@paulamelville8439 Lmao. They lost that war...) I don't want to underestimate Fins, but the "fair" battles were held in 1944, when Soviets had to push them away from their territory.
Another important fact of history about Finnish soldiers / people. In World War II we showed the Soviet Union twice, and Germany once (the Lapland War) what kind of nation we are.
I did my 12 months of Finnish military service, they paid for my flight from Australia and back. I loved it. I think this video is more about getting prople to make the defence forces a long term career. Aftwe 6-12 months (depending which service and job you sign for) you get stood down from active duty. You become the readiness force when called upon. Not sure if the U.S.A has the same but pretty close to the national guard.
I'm reserve sniper in the Finnish army, aslo I do hunt moose, elk deer, etc. You have mistaken to take this as a recuinment advertice... This is a real simulation shortage, for which us finns must prepare. Please understand which is a professional(money worshipp) army and people-defending their civ. army.
And the answer to the why dont the bad guys attack at night is that in finland sun never sets in summertime so it's daylight 24/7 you can read the newspaper outside all day long. And when its winter you cant see anything because it is pitch black everywhere and you cant see the topography from the air because the whole country is covered in 4 feet of snow and its 68 to 86 farenheit.
Dear Jameson, First of all I would like to state that I have not read through the comments and I am also an officer in Estonian Defence Forces. I do really appreciate the content that you provide, but one thing caught my mind from this video, about the nature of conscription. I may be wrong, but in countries such as Finland and Estonia, this is the only way we can survive. Yes, for some, the service might be involuntary, but nowadays we are trying to provide the mindset that, it is rather your right than a duty to serve your country. Looking forward to Your reply LT Tammets
Our biggest weapon is high living standard, low corruption especially in military and pulling together spirit. All these will produce very high defence spirit. These are the things our enemy does not have and you can see it in Ukraine.
I would like to comment as a French guy who has been living in Finland for 46 years. By the way, my son served in the Finnish military. I don’t live with the fear Russians might some day invade Finland..... as long as Putin is president in Russia. But I don’t know what could happen after Putin. Maybe an ultra-nationalistic guy could reach to power and anything is possible. Don’t forget Finland was part of the Russian empire before 1917. But for the moment Finns can sleep their night peacefully. Greetings from the beautiful Helsinki.
This is what ive been saying all the time the good thing with Putin is that he doesent have any intrest in attacking Finland for some trees. Putin is way more of a devious person who wouldent start an open conflict.
This is a "what if Russia attacked" episode and showing how Finland would defend itself from the Military to the Civilians becoming militiamen (possible Reserves). They're also showing their FPCON plans in handling the situations as it escalates. Finland has one if the most unique defense plans. Look at Switzerland's hidden fortresses.
I missed the part they said it is Russia. When I served in the military, our mission was to defend Finland against anyone. Of course, since that day, our politicians have been giving away our independence like there was no tomorrow.
I think reason why Finnish defence forces release these videos, is to have something to show for new conscripts and to raise willingness to defend homeland. Which I think is one of the highest in the world., if I may add as an old conscript, this does hit the the sweet spot.
Yeah according to the latest study almost 80% of Finnish men would be willing to take up arms to defend their country against overwhelming enemy. What I've read in most European countries the numbers are between 20-60% if I remember correctly.
Seems like this guy has no idea how the Finnish army works and is build. Maybe do some basic research first before looking and commenting videos and what the video actually is about.
Every military works different, he is an ex USA Marine which means that he know how USA military works. I think he is making reactions on these videos so he can learn about other countries military and also share USA Marine point of view and make some comparisons with us. Also i think that if any military would make such a video(recruiting, show of power etc.) they should make it so it will cover everything(means that you don’t need special researches before watch the video)
@@thetalkingjshow8797 Because it's actually polite to know some basic stuff before you start laughing at something. "That takes away from the whole reaction concept." Why it takes something away? So basically what you are saying that if you know some basic stuff about something you can't have a reaction to that anymore??? No, think again.
@@operator2356 " they should make it so it will cover everything(means that you don’t need special researches before watch the video)" Dont' put words in my mouth! I didn't say you should do some special researches before watching the video. "Maybe do some basic research". You should read and think before you comment.
"Finnish defence Forces also commented over here. So, like I said before, DO SOME BASIC RESEARCH and you can actually learn some shit and not be one of the ignorant 'Muricans, like so many people see them as one. I wonder why... "Thanks for you comments! We appreciate your insights and have been following your channel for some time now. Just a couple of things we thought should be clarified though. This is not a recruitment video. This is actually just a small part of an educational package for the FDF conscripts aimed to give them a glimpse about what it COULD look like if Finland would be drawn to war. No Hollywood here, just pretty realistic shots of the action. Recruitment is not an issue in the Finnish Defence Forces since we have a conscription based system. That system actually provides the FDF with first grade, professional level personnel for peace and war time service. The war time personnel is highly educated (including the officers, NCO’s and rank and file): practically everyone in the war time roster has a higher or vocational training. The reserve troops are getting refreshment training in a constant cycle to keep the FDF ready at all times. This creates a fighting force that is highly versatile and cohesive, with every member being able to take the initiative if necessary. A force comprised of real, intelligent and capable citizen soldiers who are defending their homes and families and take this responsibility seriously. That ”Home Depo” scene is pretty accurate. Those guys are actually trained reservist who are getting back to military setting. After they get their gear sorted out they set it up and start the refresher training with their unit. No need to yell at their faces either: They’re grown up men and women who know what they are doing and what’s at stake here. It is definitely not an insult to be called a conscript. The case is quite the contrary with the conscript readiness units: the members of the units are volunteers. The units are equipped and trained to be rapidly deployed to counter ”rapid changes in the security environment”. The fact that they are mentioned means that stuff just got serious. The Defence Forces also traditionally has a high approval rating within the population, 82% in the last poll in 2019. Part of this is very likely because of the conscription system. Roughly 75% of the male population and a constantly rising number of volunteer women complete their military service. This means that practically every family has had their members serve in the military at some point in time. There’s really no need to argue about the taxes spend for the national defence as everyone basically understands why it is necessary. That also means that there are no stolen valor village idiots, as you called them, in Finland 😄 You see people in military uniform on public places daily. You’re spot on with the hurry up and wait phase being missing from this movie. We’re trying to address that element as well as other not so sexy parts of the military in our channel videos. In this case it wouldn’t been practical: Wouldn’t want the the film to be 4 hours long. Oh yeah, about the Day-Night thing: It actually doesn’t get dark during the summer here in the north. During the winter months on the other hand, it’s pretty dark no matter what time of the day it is, so we got some experience on fighting in the dark too 😎""
I think what it demonstrates is that the Finns have a modern fighting force and are prepared on all fronts. For the taxpayers their money is being well spent!
Greetings from Finland. As others have told I can confirm that we have a mandatory conscript system for all male aged 18-30 and they server from 6 to 12 months and after that move to reserves. Being conscript is duty, obligation and honor for all conscripts and not taken as an insult.
In WWII Finland held off MASSIVE Soviet forces for months with a MUCH smaller force and inflicted heavy casualties. They eventually negotiated a peace, being heavily outnumbered...they're fighters for sure...and good videographers too.
On a per capita basis, Finland and Israel are the two most armed countries in the world. I THINK Switzerland is third. Don't know who's fourth. The USA is back in fifth place.
If you just count by the amount of various equipment then North Korea is first with its ridiculous piles of old gear. But Finland definitely is quite high on the list
It’s not a recruitment video it’s a video showing how Finland would defend itself. An Estonian soldier did a video on this and talked about how the reserve soldiers would be called up and they use shopping carts to grab all their gear
7:00 the conscript readiness unit is literally conscripts in process of completing their mandatory military training who have been assigned on alert in case something like a major industrial accident happens, where they would be expected to assist in search, rescue, and cordoning the area. Or, as in this case, when the police are dealing with an incident heavier in scope and firepower involved than the civilian authorities are prepared for.
"Seems like these bad guys are pretty stupid" Well, seems like the FDF Intelligence was pretty spot on about the Russ... Ahem I meant the K2 yellow forces.
Being a conscript is not an insult in any nordic country or Finland. It's the primary way to get into the military and the conscripts are the backbone of invasion defence. It was conscripts and volunteers who gave Russia a beating in the Winter war. The second way to get into military is to volunteer for service. Also, proffessional officers start as either conscripts or volunteers.
The Finns fought back both the German and the Soviets during WWII. This video is a message (to the Russians in my opinion) not to mess with them. Great upload!
Well, the problem is that if Russia ever really wanted to attack Finland, they would just send 3 nuclear bombs per city: Helsinki, Turku, Tampere, Oulu and Rovaniemi, and that would be it :D They might not even notice the difference in their nuclear stockpile. It would be foolish for them to attack by traditional means.
bombing Helsinki would mean fallout to st.petersburg, Ruskies own city. bombing Turku and oulu would anger lots of swedes, since swedish capital stockholm is near Turku
@@Leo_Dzen So wrong .... That video is not a frippin' propaganda. It's a very realistic description, how the possible conflict against a country would be starting ... especially that so called "gray phase". The gray phase, in it's many faces, is pure "capitalism" ... minimum effort -> maximum result. To prevent that kind of scenario happening / escalating .... as the old phase states ... "to catch a thief, set a thief". Aina valmiina, Isänmaan puolesta ... Semper Paratus, Pro Patria.
The "home depot" was the supply clerks that's pretty much what the supply depots looks like in the largest bases, you load your shit into a shopping cart and get out of the way to dress up and pack it into back bags.
Re: night activities of military etc... Midnight sun and polar night In Finnish Lapland, the sun sets in late November and generally does not rise until mid-January. This can last as long as 50 days in northern Finland. ... During summer there are equally long days with no real "dark" nights.
I guess what would explain a lot is that the Finnish army is conscription based. Nearly the whole male Finnish population and a part of the female population will serve at least 6 months and thus there is no recruitment aspect to these videos. Im pretty sure the main goal is to simulate scenarios where an unspecified enemy (lets just assume Russia) starts a modern war against Finland, and these simulations are to more easily point out flaws in the Finnish m.o. in order to improve them. I guess some scenes look a bit dramatized or too scripted but as a non Finnish European I got to say that Finland has probably one of the strongest armies in Europe, along with the Swiss, Ukraine and Russia. Also what I think is pretty cool about the Finnish army structure, is that almost every higher educated Fin will also either assume an officer training or special training in coms, logistics, engineering, or something along those lines, which is quite a relevant portion of the Finnish army.
The finnish guys have proven their will to win in the recent history... you have alot more morale to defend a country than invading one. As a simple Estonian im always willing to support them! after all they have helped us
I feel bad that people of Tallin have to see the drunken Finnish tourists all the timexD We love your country and would never let it slip to the russians again. Together we are stronger.
For the people wondering how it is to be a neighbour of Russia, wether we exagerate the russian threat. I’m also bordering the Russian space. I’m from Romania. i will tell you just why romanians don’t view russia positively. Firstly they Invaded us 13 times in last 200 years. In 1812 they incorporated a chunk of our Romanian historical land with 100% Romanian speakers into the russian empire called Basserabia (Republic of moldova today). They starved the romanians and brought tens of thousands of Russians with suitcases to live in their houses to make the area russian speaking. (That is why you find today russian speakers in moldova although they are separated by ukrainians 1000km from the russian mainland) In ww1 we were allies with the russians and sent our gold to Russia for safe keeping because our capital got overran and the russians never gave it gold back. 100 tonnes. In ww2 1939 they invaded Basserabia again and deported up to 40k-200k romanians to Kazachstan most of them still live there. Many were executed for political reasons by the NKVD resembling the violence of you know who. They conscripted Romanian soldiers into the Soviet army and put them to fight the Romanian army. Like brother against brother fight. After 1944 we switched sides and soviets stripped us of heavy weapons and sent romanians where there was the biggest carnage without support in order to run the army to the ground as revenge. Suffered in last 1 year of war alongide Soviets same killed and wounded as in 4 years sided with Germany including disaster at Stalingrad. Cold war: Together with enforcing communism and killing our intelectuals in prisons, Russians took food from conquered territories years after the war leading to deaths due to starvation. They created colonial enterprieses called SovRom that mined all our gold, uranium, oil and shipped for free to the ussr till 1970. We paid more war reparations than Germany in nominal terms, although russia invaded us first in 1939 and spent the last year of war fighting alongside the russians. Present day russia brainwashes the romanians in the Basserabia (Republic of moldova) and pro russian politicians hold them captive in their own country and try to create fear against Romania saying that we are evil and so... like we were the ones deporting them to kazachstan. So you now have an ideea i hope so, why certain countries feel they way about russia: because they had many negative experiences with it. And the russian history teacher or media won’t tell the people of russia that. They would say that romania has gone insane and is a puppet of america... no is not, it’s protecting herself from what i said above.
@@georgyzhukov6409 And the allies saved Europe from the Nazis, the Russians only came to force annexation on smaller weaker countries. The Fins evicted the Nazis AND the Russians from their country all by themselves. That is respectable.
@@blueduck9409 just like the latvian and ukraniam nazis that gave jews away. It bothers me how many people hate russia. Yea their government is dirty but their people are amazing
As a Finnish conscript, I can confirm this is not really "hollywood". The only part I can't say about, is the command room part, where the higher ranking officers are in one room in front of computers. The conversations would likely be the same, but I suspect the actual meetings would not take place from one room. But for the sake of filming and making the situation understandable for a viewer, the officers are in one room (for all I know, that might be an actual command HQ setup for wartime, or simplified to be in one room). The action is mainly the sort of exercises we do in the army every week. I suspect that they just filmed a lot of the normal training missions for most of the action footage. The "news segments" are obviously acted out for the narrative. The conscript term isn't really an insult for us. We are proud to be well trained and professional about defending our country. The career soldiers here in Finland mostly focus around training and guiding us conscripts. We conscripts show lots of respect to them for dedicating their career to be the very best at protecting our land, family, democracy, and values. They respect the conscripts a lot, for giving 6-12 months of their lives, and a vow to defend the same things with our lives. The backbone of the Finnish army, are the conscripts. If we were poorly trained, unmotivated, and feeling inferior or insignificant, the performance of the entire army would collapse. The army also doesn't work like conscripts working in different forces than the career soldiers. The career soldiers are in every unit. Their role is to guide the conscripts and lead by example. The conscripts are very well trained. They have done thousands of drills on their specific roles, and the basic soldier's skills. They are very competent soldiers, who respect and follow the orders of the career soldiers, as well as reservist officers.
To be fair, that "Home Depot Shopping Cart" scenario is how gear is issued in the US as well. At least from my experience in the Army. They give you a lot of gear, so it does help to expedite the process of "Get your shit and get gone."
You are filling the niche for all the young guys who just want to sit down and watch some TV with their dads after a long day but cant due to whatever reasons. Keep it up :)
Well ... Simo Hayha was the most famous, but he wasn't "the only one", there were many more, who fullfilled their task in the front. Now a days, here in Finland, lies a vast amount of suitable hunting/competition rifles w high quality optics ... :-)
That was cool. So the Finnish people can see how their Active Military and Reserves/Conscripts work together and any potential enemies can easily see they're committed and ready to defend themselves. Well done, Finland!
If I remember correctly, Finland is one of the few countries that still uses 7.62x39mm instead of 5.45x39mm in their AK pattern rifles due to the forests and the superior barrier penetration of 7.62x39mm.
True. Also because of the dense forests the combat would be mostly on very short range so we really wouldn't benefit from the improved accuracy and range that you get with smaller calibers. One other reason we still use the 7.62x39 AK pattern rifles is money. There might be more modern weapon systems available but I guess the Defense Forces have concluded that the benefit of more modern rifle wouldn't outweigh the cost and have decided to spend their very limited budget on more important stuff.
Don't mistake the RK series for a mere AK pattern rifle. There's a reason American gun enthusiasts would love to get their hands on a Valmet. It's like a mix between an AK and AR pattern (The Israelis copied it for the Galil) with some AK mechanics and ergonomics, and some AR-like ergonomics such as better sights and on the modernized rifles, rails for optics and the like. The gas system is also original if I'm not mistaken. Reportedly better average performance than either platform, and the ammo used is extremely high grade stuff, not like that horrid surplus comblock ammo. From a bench I think they're around 1MOA at 100m which is unheard of for a service rifle, only really matched by the Swiss rifles. Most rifles are 3MOA or so. Of course, as reliable as any good AK or AR, although due to age, there are some faulty examples still in the armory, hence the modernization program. Frontline troops get the best rifles I imagine.
As many have said, this is not a drafting video since our defence forces (yes, it's actually called Finnish Defence Forces to indicate it's only purpose) are conscription based. Military service is mandatory for all men (with a few exceptions) and a voluntary for women. Historically we have had a very large active reserve. However it's size has been reduced in the last 15 years, mainly to reduce costs. One argument has been that the whole consept on modern warfare has changed and a full scale whole border wide attack is less likely. After the WWII the idea was that we need a big army to be able to man the whole length of our borders. Nowadays the more likely threat would be a hybrid attack against infrastructure by "smaller unmarked forces". This video gives one example of how that might happen if some nation would decide to start an invasion against us.
Finland has pretty impressive war time strength (280 000) and the whole reserve (900 000). With only a population of 5,5 million that would mean the same as the US having a war time strength of 17 million and a reserve of 53,7 million. Also during WW2 Finland lost 97 000 soldiers & civilians making up 2,62% of her population at the time. That doesn't sound that bad but if we do a comparison like before it would mean the same as us losing 8,6 million. Pretty useless information but I find it rather fascinating so I thought to share it.
exactly. on the end the news broadcaster says "Finland is at war". so the war starts after this gray timeline. The other "taistelukenttä" video tells about the after this.
Haha yeah, they never lost their independence, which is impressive considering who their enemy was and is, cuz lets be honest norwegians are friends and swedes are too soft, so who else would be the enemy.
...The Soviets learned that the hard way...the military band that Stalin sent to lead the victory parade down the main street of Helsinki lost all their instruments...and most of their lives...the Finns did to them what they did to the Germans at Stalingrad...
@@Alexandros.Mograine Am Swedish and if Willy Wonka wants to invade our country with his ompa lompas he could. All forgiving Sweden has broken down this country
This basically a quasi instructional video for the recruits. When I was in a few years ago, we were shown a similar video but made in the 90s. It's a little motivational push shown in the first few days of the one's service if I remember correctly.
I'm off to the conscript service in the Estonian army in 2 months, you should react to one of their videos !! They have many including a special forces training video also 👊
Every male Finnish citizen aged 18-60 is liable for military service and usually undergo their conscription service after junior high so no recruitment material is needed. This film is more of a public service announcement what to expect if things go sideways. By that i mean that when there's a large disruption in society supporting institutions & systems, you should expect it to be foul play and that more is on the way. This is exactly what happened in Ukraine.
Looking this after Ukraine war starting. They tried to take Hostel Aiport beginning of campaign. Also russian army did attack day since they have no night capabilties. Also tried to use ambhiphous vessels to get shore- And they did not have good airsup port either. Seems oddly accurate.
yes Finland has mandatory conscription for all men, this video isn't for recruitment and more to show that finland is ready and able to defend their country from threats.
The Finns have a limited conscription in place and have excellent forces. They are taking the threat seriously and the Uk should be doing the same especially regarding manpower and industry being geared up before we are too far behind the curve. The Scandis and the Baltic’s and Poles take this current situation very very very seriously. People should be aware like in the Cold War that this may escalate and preparation is the best way to minimise this happening.
4:33 shows how they do it in the Netherlands. For me it's not that strange. My first day in the army was the day we had to go to the depot to get our BDU (pgu we call it). We had a cart just like that and got a list wich showed al the equipment we would receive. Except the gun, we got that later.
Every able bodied Fin has to go into military service for a while. That is how they roll. I believe everything is filmed on site. They have a big military and they are well equiped maybe the best in europe, or even the world. Real big stockpiles and resources. They could handle COVID 19 right away with the stockpiles they have. Also a lot of bunkers to house people when there is trouble. Remember they need to counter Russia if it invades. They will have a hard time with the Fins! The video is probably made so its a deterrent to an invading force. This is the most EPIC, thing ive seen military video wise! Greetings, Jeff
Hello Jeff, and thank you for your comments! Here in Finland we have such an idea, that Russia is never ever anymore conquering our country. Now we have so much armament, ammunition, tanks, Hornet airplanes, well trained infantry of hundreds of thousand men and one of the most powerful artillery in the world. We know that Russian infantry respects strong artillery. In the summer 1944 Finland's army's artillery was best in the world. (it is true!) You don't believe this, but if you find english pages in Google about Tali-Ihantala fight in June 1944, you may find it. Finnish artillery destroyed then Russian divisions in the vast fight of hundreds of thousands men, Soviet Union (Stalin) thought they will capture our country, but we did´nt agree.
Thanks for you comments! We appreciate your insights and have been following your channel for some time now. Just a couple of things we thought should be clarified though. This is not a recruitment video. This is actually just a small part of an educational package for the FDF conscripts aimed to give them a glimpse about what it COULD look like if Finland would be drawn to war. No Hollywood here, just pretty realistic shots of the action.
Recruitment is not an issue in the Finnish Defence Forces since we have a conscription based system. That system actually provides the FDF with first grade, professional level personnel for peace and war time service. The war time personnel is highly educated (including the officers, NCO’s and rank and file): practically everyone in the war time roster has a higher or vocational training. The reserve troops are getting refreshment training in a constant cycle to keep the FDF ready at all times. This creates a fighting force that is highly versatile and cohesive, with every member being able to take the initiative if necessary. A force comprised of real, intelligent and capable citizen soldiers who are defending their homes and families and take this responsibility seriously.
That ”Home Depo” scene is pretty accurate. Those guys are actually trained reservist who are getting back to military setting. After they get their gear sorted out they set it up and start the refresher training with their unit. No need to yell at their faces either: They’re grown up men and women who know what they are doing and what’s at stake here.
It is definitely not an insult to be called a conscript. The case is quite the contrary with the conscript readiness units: the members of the units are volunteers. The units are equipped and trained to be rapidly deployed to counter ”rapid changes in the security environment”. The fact that they are mentioned means that stuff just got serious.
The Defence Forces also traditionally has a high approval rating within the population, 82% in the last poll in 2019. Part of this is very likely because of the conscription system. Roughly 75% of the male population and a constantly rising number of volunteer women complete their military service. This means that practically every family has had their members serve in the military at some point in time. There’s really no need to argue about the taxes spend for the national defence as everyone basically understands why it is necessary.
That also means that there are no stolen valor village idiots, as you called them, in Finland 😄 You see people in military uniform on public places daily. You’re spot on with the hurry up and wait phase being missing from this movie. We’re trying to address that element as well as other not so sexy parts of the military in our channel videos. In this case it wouldn’t been practical: Wouldn’t want the the film to be 4 hours long.
Oh yeah, about the Day-Night thing: It actually doesn’t get dark during the summer here in the north. During the winter months on the other hand, it’s pretty dark no matter what time of the day it is, so we got some experience on fighting in the dark too 😎
Ni följer många kanaler om militär ☺️🇸🇪
@@buttegaming4872 Always watching mate, always watching.
spot on. hope that märinä guy would have done his homework before commenting. it is easy to shout from a country that no one hasnt try to invade...
The most underrated comment here. Been really enjoying these reactionvideos you do, but some actual research before saying anything never hurt nobody.
Well said!
"Guestions?"
"No"
"Execute"
That's the Finnish spirit right there, no nonsense screaming or useless chatter.
@dimapez What we need is a disable power...
is there any of them?
IIRC Finland has mandatory conscription, and so those scenes in the "home depot" weren't random untrained civilians being given rifles and kevlar, they were reservists or people who had been through military training and were attached to a unit, and they were simply being issued their gear. Also conscript doesn't really seem like an insult in Finland, just a neutral term to describe people completing mandatory military service (which is the definition of conscription, so kudos for honesty, and not hiding behind some softer term, like other countries with a draft or mandatory service often do).
Aamen
At the end of the day, videos like these are morale boosters for people who are being forced into military service. When I hear the term conscript, I think, a few steps above being a slave. Rough, but if you live in a small country that borders the largest country on Earth and have also been hostile to you in the past, then you don't really have much of a choice.
I have a lot of respect for the Finish People and their military. They are the modern day Sparta of of Europe. These people are fighting for their homes and families.
@@daleshirley1207 Now you are getting bit off track. We aren´t like Sparta.
@@Taistelukalkkuna yeah we are better
Finnish conscript here. Definitely not an insult for me, rather an honor. Love to serve my country, be it mandatory or not. Will certainly apply for a job in the FDF.
"I would expect air support"....yeah well when you serve in the US military which has about 13000 manned aircraft compared to Finlands 200, you would expect but be left wanting! We have 130 helicopters which are mainly used for troop transport and 55 fighters that will mainly be taking care of air to air threats. We do it old school, greetings from Finland.
I agree with you. And the Finish know how to do defend themselves without a big air support. The americans don't know how to do that... that was why it's so difficult to James understood! But he will understand if he will study how you guys deffended your country against russians and germans in the II World War.
@@RicardoMartins67 Guerrilla warfare. ; )
@@RicardoMartins67 actually we fought Winter War 1939-40 alone against the Soviets (apart from very few volunteers mainly from Sweden and Denmark; thx to the Swedish F19 fighter squadron in Lapland!) and a second war WITH the Germans 1941-44 (this is called the Continuation War in Finland) against the Soviets. We were forced by the USSR to fight the German forces out of the country due to separate peace with the Soviets. This resulted in Lapland War 1944-45 against Germany.
Bottom line is that without the immense supply of fighter aircraft, tanks, munitions and other supplies from the Germans we might be speaking Finnish in Siberia...
...as an invaded, deported and fading people
Addition to this is that the Finnish coast has a lot of people living there and they are expected to continue living there later on :D Would the marine expect heavy air support bombing the shit out of manhattan if it was occupied by foreign green men :D I don't think that would be the case..
Finland has mandatory conscription, all these people in this video are real soldiers and people in reserve. Also the news anchors are real and well known too.
And news anchors are also reservist 😅
@Gibson 36 No problem man, we love you guys anyway.
Where ever military service is mandatory, conscripts man the bulk of the forces so it's not insulting. Respect from Greece 👍
Hell yeah
Greeks don't fight like heroes. Heroes fight like Greeks.
Greetings to Greece from Finland. From Sparta of the North to the Sparta of the South ;)
Μακάρι να κάναμε κι εμείς ένα τέτοιο παρόμοιο. Ειδικά τώρα τον τελευταίο καιρό δεν έβλαπτε.
@@ristuksenvittu not really. It's the only reason a huge country with a small population, like Finland, can keep their defense budget low. Have you been in the military? I'm pretty sure this is one of the first thing they teach conscripts, why they are there at all.
It's more like an "introduction" video for Finnish conscripts and people in general. We have a conscription system and about 80-90 % of Finnish males in every age group serve in the military for 6-12 months. Being called a conscript is not an insult to most people, as it is simply what most our war time military would be. I'm serving as a profession and it's my personal calling, but not everyone is like this (which is most certainly not a negative thing lol). Greetings from Finland!
@Iain Bailey I also think it does most people good. Not everyone is gonna become a soldier, but everyone learns or atleast sees some basic discipline, group work and how to get over hardships. It's a very maturing experience for those who choose it to be that. And I'm old fashioned in the sense that I see defending the homeland and your people as a basic duty of every healthy full grown male. You gotta atleast know the basics.
The only reason I know this is because of SleepyCast
Tbh the only thing i don't like about conscript is that you have a big change that the moral will be very low with some people. Like most of them don't want to fight. Good example is Germany WW2 Allot of them didn't want to fight and that defiantly happend at the end of the war with Germany. But i like that you can have peace time that you can have mandatory service. So like with Finland and Isreal if war breaks out they will have army that is trained really well. So you have reserves that already discipline
Respect from Denmark to our friends in Finland. Any enemy will get beaten and disaper forever in your many lakes 👍😊🇩🇰
@Iain Bailey I think that's financially not possible for the US with all the equipment one soldier has and with a population of over 300 million
In northern Finland sun does not set at all from May to August, while further south the sun can be visible for nearly around the clock during June and July. So no matter what time of the day they attack.
And during Wintertime they don't get any more light on 12 am than 12 pm... =)
Recruitment is NOT difficult in Finland. It is an honour!!!
My grandfather moved from Finland to the United States in the early 1900s. So more than likely some of my distant relatives fought in the winter war. Glory to Finland!
It is mandatory...
professional recruitment of high caliber brains can be hard for them.
but yeah the dude commenting doesn't seem to know that you get conscripted so for that level it's not a problem to recruit.
@@papamanatee1975 You can do civil service or go to jail too here :) But as a Finn, it is certainly an honor for me too :)
@@papamanatee1975 It is not mandatory, 74 percent of Finns see this as SISU.
Well, they want to defend their territory. Not a bad thing.
Unlike the US lol
@@FJ24. Same here...From a country that have only a mandatory army...It is what it is...Everyone who serves in the military is basically a conscript...
They defended there country against Russia 80 years ago and done good mean fighters and loved there small arms bet they still can kick arse be aware.
1234 • ? What, I don’t get it. Pretty sure we have a massive military and bases all over the world and export an insane amount of military technology. But I might be wrong :) greetings from U.S
Burnt waffle 55 it was just a light diss but ik that the US military helps out with a lot and I appreciate that but what I meant was for the past 20 years they have been in the Middle East for unnecessary amount of time
Why on earth would a conscript readiness unit be insulted for fulfilling their role? I'm not following your logic here.
Because historically conscripts are under trained, under equipped and don't want to be there compared to professional soldiers.
@@RCShufty In my experience, Finnish conscripts tend to be exactly that nowadays. My squad was severely dysfunctional with almost everyone slacking off and being selfish dicks.
@@jharju2352 That's the problem with conscription, not everyone is cut out to be a soldier.
@@RCShufty Definitely not, but I wouldn't change the system either. I had a lot of shitty times out there and a lot of good ones too, but the take-home, the sum of it all is simply priceless.
The name is funny
16:45 On attacks happening at night. You do understand that in Finland at summer, it is only minor difference between night and day. There is sunlight on nights too.
Above the center of the country there is no real difference at all between night and day. The sun stays up 24/7 for a few months.
An interesting note you might enjoy: Finnish Lapland is the only area in the European Union which is cleared for live artillery fire, and the Finnish military has one of the most experienced and large artillery corps as a direct result.
So lucky. I attended an event from the German Army/Airforce and they showed us basically all around helicopters. Sad thing being: there are so many idiots who live in the villages etc around bases and complain about the noise even going as far as filing complaints at the police. We can't even train our pilots or what? There is I think one range in Germany they are allowed to train with life ammunition.
We really need conscription/civil services back like we had about 20 years ago. And look at what the German military has become.
Really jeaouls at Finland still having it
Finland has conscription so every male above the age of 18 has to join the army unless they have medical or moral reasons to not join. These kinda videos are a boost of morale for fins who are currently doing or are about to start their military experience. It's not that we have difficulty getting the numbers as high as wanted, but the videos idea is to show the people what they are training for. I was in the army when this came out and it felt good to see this kinda propaganda video that showed aspects of things I have learned in my time in the army.
I love Finland. Dads girlfriend is from Finland. Pirkko!
@@blueduck9409 Say hello to Pirkko from here.
@@jukkakarna7810 Thank you, I will. I never met anybody from Finland that I did not like.
You dondt met all of us. Welcome.
@@blueduck9409 Well thank you! Oh and Pirkko is a very Finnish girl name, a bit old though.
Being an conscript in Finnish military is an honor. Pretty much we all finnish men take conscription as a civil right.
huutista lambille t. Alonzo C. Babers :D
Thank you for keeping the east safe for Sweden.
(Wish we did more to help)
@@Vollification you did everything short of going into war yourselves, which we Finns need to respect. You have my thanks for all the material, volunteers and taking in refugees.
“Bad guys” thank you Finland for being an ally! Go NATO!
@@Vollification Send your nice Anti Air and Tank systems to Finland ;)
Finland has EUROPES BIGGEST ARTILLERY, AND SECOND LARGEST MANPOWER BY ALMOST 1MILLION TRAINED MEN. Finlands military is in best shape of all the nordic countries. And those command centres are located in reality too, somewhere in Finland.
Maybe next time old school marine can do fact checking before watching? (=
Lol. Hey he’s used to wrestling bears with his own bare hands after they stole his crayons. He doesn’t need to research anything, Unless it has crayons.
wait huh so Russia doesn't lie in Europa?
@Lua Dipa wut lol since when xD Because you know russia is in both continents xD
Of the European countries, Russia has the most artillery
@Lua Dipa Go back to school and learn geography
They got arms for 80% of the male population. That home depo thing is no joke, if the Russians come they'll be facing a lot of guys with guns.
Yolo Swaggins An enemy will never succeed n Finland.
+ over 1,5million small arms owned by civilians. Many train with AR-15 and AK type weapons too in their free time and participate in military courses in reserve. We got guns and no one is going to take them away.
@@dinoXAs2 Wait for EU to think of something..
@@n00blamer They are and have tried... Lead bullet ban is their next move, but we have to stop that.
@@dinoXAs2 Lead bullets have already been banned... before WWI?
If you only knew how much the Nordic countries kicked Americas ass in Nato exercises couple years ago, then you wouldn’t be laughing.
Do you think the USA has time to put their "best" into a training exercise, when they are busy over seas kicking ass?
The US will send guys who could use the exercise.
@eddie money Stop watching lame stream media. Work 'in" or "for" govt and you would know.
@eddie money Satan runs this system of things. Sometimes you need to infiltrate the enemy to know what he's up too.
@eddie money If the US is a paper tiger, how pathetic are all the other nations to bow down to them?
@eddie money only paper tiger is China. And the correct term is paper dragon after they got bitch slapped on the border by India. America has some of the best Naval and Aviation in the world. There is a reason only select allies are allowed the F35 and no one is allowed our F22s. We also have the most aircraft carriers in the world bar none. We spend the most money in the world for a reason.
here's translation about this video: "Battlefield 2020 is an instructional video specifically for conscript training. The video is part of the combat training instructional material given in the beginner period and in the non-commissioned and reserve officer courses. The video is also used in the training of reservists and staff.
The purpose of the battlefield is to give trainees a realistic picture of the Defense Forces as a whole, the circumstances and operating environment of exceptional circumstances, as well as threat models and readiness regulation. The Defense Forces Service Center has produced an educational film commissioned by the General Staff Training Department during 2016-2020. The film replaces the previous Battlefield film released in 1998.
According to Major Ville Kostian, the project manager of the battlefield learning material, the instructional videos aim to illustrate phenomena that are difficult to highlight in other ways.
- Videos often show problem situations, but above all solutions to solve them. In a contact teaching situation, the discussion with the trainer about the topic or phenomenon presented in the teaching video is central, Kostian says.
- The battlefield is the view of Finnish experts in the field of what war could be like today. Our goal has been to describe it to the trainees as realistically as possible."
This is not a recruitment video as we have a mandatory military service. Taistelukenttä movies are usually shown to new conscripts during their basic training.
They held to the Soviet Army at bay during WWII. The Finns will defend their nation with pride.
and lost two times
Yea that was then. Russia may be a declining nation but it's still in the top 5 biggest Militaries. If they decided to hit the Finns today. it will be over very fast. Especially if they out right hit them with the thought of winning before the UN cries about it and helps them.
@@lastwolflord: they couldn't beat chechnya for 10 years! russians only fight with meat
@@gnolkenstein5527 Finland's losses were victories in comparison what happened to the annexed countries.
@@ilmarsbelevics To be fair they had to deal with the west supplying the rebels and sanctions being put on Russia for attacking them.
I think you’re being unfair. This programme is made as information about how Finland would react to an invasion attempt. For European countries there is no such thing as an overseas war. The fight would be at our doorstep and the first to take the brunt would be currently serving conscripts and career military personnel, ie. navy, airforce and a few tier one SF ready for direct action stuff. It would be their job to give the mobilization of conscript trained soldiers enough time to equip and organize into fighting units. What you see as the home depot scene is actually conscript defence force being done right!
Plenty of European countries do overseas wars, where is your education?
@@Aurinkohirvi a few units are sent as peace keeping troops but european countries are mainly prepared for an attack right at their doorstep. We are not surrounded by 2 oceans on either side and have peaceful neighbours we have to be prepared for anything.
@@reptile_loki Right now there's conflicts with European troops in Afghanistan and Mali (or wider, Maghreb area really). The war in Afghanistan is fought by NATO, and the war was declared by the USA, it was the first time article 5 was invoked and a NATO country claimed it was attacked. It's an attacking war and other European NATO countries joined it. That UN sent later troops to protect Kabul, does not change it. There's also European special forces troops operating in Syria, but those work under secrecy, like they did in Libya. A bit earlier there was a major war in Iraq with many European countries. None of these peace keeping operations.
@@Aurinkohirvi yeah but you dont really here about European troops other than French and British in Afghanistan
@@montanaf2286 We have news about the Finnish troops in Afghanistan too. But our medias suck. News coverage from Syria was very biased, and news from Yemen or the Maghreb conflict are really thin.
Living in Finland. Finnish fear a Russian invasion as they have bad memories (only force to resist and to Soviet Union during WWII, better than German Army).
The country is small (5 millions people) but entirely organised to mobilise the whole population. Almost everyone know what do do. Infrastructure are very well thought and organised and Finns are very well organised and serious people. They have very modern equipment.
@@Leo_Dzen when theres nothing to be ashamed, that we (finns) don't give our rights.
we sided with nazi germany, because no one else came to help us after winter war. and survived the war, unlike many germanys allies who got puppeted by ruskies.
@@Leo_Dzen
Braindead lies? I bet you swallow RT lies that said Putin wasn't invading Georgia, or Ukraine in 2014, or that Chechnya was justified, or Ukraine in 2022.
Not fear but prepare
Hey, the film is mainly about entertainment and how we would react to attacks coming at Finland. Army is mandatory for us so it's not about recruiment.
Greetings from Finland!
I remember their war against the USSR. Finland is not a walk-over. The people there have big hearts and are tough. I have a few buddies over there with hunting licenses. I always joke that they send me pics of road kills. Moral of the story: They know how to live outdoors in harsh conditions. They have incredible marksmanship. They are loyal. They are tough. And I love their accent!
Also the terrain in Finland is ideal for defensive warfare. Lots of lakes, swamps and dense forests.
@@kolekole6017 To win a war you do not have to have a big air force, or tank battalions, or.... you need heart. A purpose. Good leaders. Good strategists. Be willing to kill. Be willing to die. You can go underground and fight a guerrilla war that will eventually defeat the enemy. The Fins have all of those traits.
Their accent sucks
Our history... so far 50 times past thousand years the Russians have invaded Finland
One thing that the video made clear at least: Finland has a lot of artillery.
More than any other European country except for Russia
Makes sense for them to have it considering which countries they neigbour. In an Armed conflict, Nordic countries most likely will support each other.
@@danielg2294 I would rather expect a backstab over a support unless we talk about very light support and not from the governments.
Just Skip Sweden supported Finland immensly during WW2. Not a whole lot of Soldiers, but Sweden is one of the biggest weapon transporters in the world, so the Fins had gear.
@@danielg2294 Sweden also took care of many of the children that had to flee from Finland. Many of them never returned to home and stayed in Sweden after the war.
Tossing your issue gear in a cart actually seems more efficient than lugging it in your arms and dropping it everywhere. Tell you what, after leaving the Corps after 10 years, going ANG and then active AF, I learned there's a lot of stuff that can be accomplished without screaming at people. Now there are knuckleheads everywhere that need a good yell, but sometimes calm and planned out procedures work just fine.
For me as a Finnish soldier, it's a motivational video. Like it probably was meant to be. I'm an old man, but I know I have a place if there's a war on Finland.
The finns are one of the bravest soldiers in world. The soviets knows well
Tough and brave. To bad their neighbors the Sweds can't learn anything from that.
Michael Petrovich what?
@@michaelpetrovich5353 Swedes can relax ;) but many Swedes will volunteer
@@miikapaananen1363 maybe 20 years ago but today they are just sad.
Have you been there resently. Meteos 95 % of them. They can't protect their own women.
@@michaelpetrovich5353 we had to become tough with war skills and attitude during WW1 and WW2. Sweden has had peaceful times more than 200 years. This is very long time. Norwegians have also more recent WW2 experiences.
As a Finn, Now that the Ukrainian War has emerged, I have GOT to laugh on the sarcasm presented here on your comments! And no pun intended! Your comments are brilliant =) No enemy is that stupid, unless they underestimate their enemy 50x! But now.... After following what is going on in Ukraine, I think differently. Not to undermine the mighty Ukrainian defence, but boy are the Russians really underestimating everyone and everything.. or at least Putler is! But yea... all my prayers to the mighty Ukrainians, so that they would preserve their independence and live as a free nation!
Never underestimate your enemy and you won't get disappointed
Ukraine essentially did at the start what Finland did but much less well equipped and without such a long tradition of training and readiness, with reforms in training and individual initiative only since 2014. For example, the Russians took Hostomel Airport much as the airport in the early stages of the video was taken (surprised attack of helicopter-dropped VDV rather than faking a mayday landing - but essentially the same concept). Because Finland could react fast as simulated, they blocked the runway with trucks. Ukraine did it by cratering the runway.
Just another stupid Mcamerican.
The Ukrainians even use one of our Finnish war songs such as njet molotoff they switched it around and turned it into njet Vladimir lol
Identifying the enemy: there is a saying that the enemy always attacks from the east, and if they happen to attack from the west, then it is a flanking maneuver ;-)
Yes, due historical reasons Finland has decided to not name the enemy during any training but the officers may use the example you provided in practice.
I remember going to Finland. Man what a cool place. No fishing license needed and a bunch of lakes. They also speak perfect english
Glad you enjoyed it here. But actually you do need a fishing license if you're going to fish with a reel rod. For normal worm-hook-rod thingy or ice fishing, you don't need a license :) by bunch of lakes you mean around 188,000 lakes ;D
Jonski so many lakes yes. Wow i was told by our stewardess that we didnt need a license if we fished from the shore because i love fishing but maybe she wasnt sure because she doesnt fish. Anyways i immidately fell in love with Finland. The city was so clean!! There was no trash lying around, no run down buildings, no graffiti. We were in Helsinki and wow was it so cool. The day we were there (9 hour layover on our way back from Greece) we got to go by the docks close to train station and they had a little market/ arts and crafts fair and we had for our very first time moose pie and rain deer pies. Oh man it was so good!!! I would love to go back and my wife shares the same feeling too! What a great country and a great people everyone was so nice and very very cool
@@rickybobby5907 no one cares in Finland if you have a license or not I've fished without a license a bunch of times
@@rickybobby5907Next time go to lapland in winter if you allready have been in Helsinki.
And many times in Last 10 years, us soldiers have been training in finland with finnish troops and all the time they are surprised by finlands military and professionalism
Especially in winter conditions, us soldiers have been the guys Who are most tired compared to finnish or swedish soldiers, they cant take the Hard weather conditions as well
It’s quite surprising that what is considered such a minor nation in today’s standards was able to hold off such a terrible force as the Soviet Union. Yet when you hear of legends such as Simo OHaya and Lauri Torni, it doesn’t seem as far fetched. Greetings from the UK brother!
Warrior people definatley
Damn right 😎
We once were, but when I look at my nation today, not so sure... People all over the west are getting soft. Not all the progress we've had is bad, but it's clearly making us softer and weaker as a people. Greetings from Finland to UK anyway!
K V the real people of Finland never changed. The legends remain
@@paulamelville8439 Lmao. They lost that war...) I don't want to underestimate Fins, but the "fair" battles were held in 1944, when Soviets had to push them away from their territory.
Another important fact of history about Finnish soldiers / people. In World War II we showed the Soviet Union twice, and Germany once (the Lapland War) what kind of nation we are.
Yes, next time you take Russia at one week! :)
I did my 12 months of Finnish military service, they paid for my flight from Australia and back. I loved it. I think this video is more about getting prople to make the defence forces a long term career.
Aftwe 6-12 months (depending which service and job you sign for) you get stood down from active duty. You become the readiness force when called upon.
Not sure if the U.S.A has the same but pretty close to the national guard.
I'm reserve sniper in the Finnish army, aslo I do hunt moose, elk deer, etc. You have mistaken to take this as a recuinment advertice... This is a real simulation shortage, for which us finns must prepare. Please understand which is a professional(money worshipp) army and people-defending their civ. army.
It's filmed in the summer so it never gets really dark during that time of year in Finland.
16:47 in finlad we don't really have night at summer, and at winter we really don't have day.
I think Finns are ready to fight for their LAND!
If you mean Karelia... I hope so.
And the answer to the why dont the bad guys attack at night is that in finland sun never sets in summertime so it's daylight 24/7 you can read the newspaper outside all day long. And when its winter you cant see anything because it is pitch black everywhere and you cant see the topography from the air because the whole country is covered in 4 feet of snow and its 68 to 86 farenheit.
Yeah, we can’t turn the sun on or off here up north :)
Dear Jameson,
First of all I would like to state that I have not read through the comments and I am also an officer in Estonian Defence Forces.
I do really appreciate the content that you provide, but one thing caught my mind from this video, about the nature of conscription.
I may be wrong, but in countries such as Finland and Estonia, this is the only way we can survive. Yes, for some, the service might be involuntary, but nowadays we are trying to provide the mindset that, it is rather your right than a duty to serve your country.
Looking forward to Your reply
LT Tammets
This is one of the best movies I’ve seen in awhile.
Our biggest weapon is high living standard, low corruption especially in military and pulling together spirit. All these will produce very high defence spirit. These are the things our enemy does not have and you can see it in Ukraine.
I would like to comment as a French guy who has been living in Finland for 46 years. By the way, my son served in the Finnish military.
I don’t live with the fear Russians might some day invade Finland..... as long as Putin is president in Russia. But I don’t know what could happen after Putin. Maybe an ultra-nationalistic guy could reach to power and anything is possible. Don’t forget Finland was part of the Russian empire before 1917.
But for the moment Finns can sleep their night peacefully.
Greetings from the beautiful Helsinki.
This is what ive been saying all the time the good thing with Putin is that he doesent have any intrest in attacking Finland for some trees. Putin is way more of a devious person who wouldent start an open conflict.
These comments did not age well :(
This is a "what if Russia attacked" episode and showing how Finland would defend itself from the Military to the Civilians becoming militiamen (possible Reserves). They're also showing their FPCON plans in handling the situations as it escalates.
Finland has one if the most unique defense plans. Look at Switzerland's hidden fortresses.
I missed the part they said it is Russia.
When I served in the military, our mission was to defend Finland against anyone.
Of course, since that day, our politicians have been giving away our independence like there was no tomorrow.
I think reason why Finnish defence forces release these videos, is to have something to show for new conscripts and to raise willingness to defend homeland. Which I think is one of the highest in the world., if I may add as an old conscript, this does hit the the sweet spot.
Yeah according to the latest study almost 80% of Finnish men would be willing to take up arms to defend their country against overwhelming enemy.
What I've read in most European countries the numbers are between 20-60% if I remember correctly.
Seems like this guy has no idea how the Finnish army works and is build. Maybe do some basic research first before looking and commenting videos and what the video actually is about.
Why would he do research first? Then he forms an opinion on the subject. That takes away from the whole reaction concept.
Every military works different, he is an ex USA Marine which means that he know how USA military works. I think he is making reactions on these videos so he can learn about other countries military and also share USA Marine point of view and make some comparisons with us.
Also i think that if any military would make such a video(recruiting, show of power etc.) they should make it so it will cover everything(means that you don’t need special researches before watch the video)
@@thetalkingjshow8797 Because it's actually polite to know some basic stuff before you start laughing at something.
"That takes away from the whole reaction concept."
Why it takes something away? So basically what you are saying that if you know some basic stuff about something you can't have a reaction to that anymore??? No, think again.
@@operator2356 " they should make it so it will cover everything(means that you don’t need special researches before watch the video)"
Dont' put words in my mouth! I didn't say you should do some special researches before watching the video. "Maybe do some basic research". You should read and think before you comment.
"Finnish defence Forces also commented over here. So, like I said before, DO SOME BASIC RESEARCH and you can actually learn some shit and not be one of the ignorant 'Muricans, like so many people see them as one. I wonder why...
"Thanks for you comments! We appreciate your insights and have been following your channel for some time now. Just a couple of things we thought should be clarified though. This is not a recruitment video. This is actually just a small part of an educational package for the FDF conscripts aimed to give them a glimpse about what it COULD look like if Finland would be drawn to war. No Hollywood here, just pretty realistic shots of the action.
Recruitment is not an issue in the Finnish Defence Forces since we have a conscription based system. That system actually provides the FDF with first grade, professional level personnel for peace and war time service. The war time personnel is highly educated (including the officers, NCO’s and rank and file): practically everyone in the war time roster has a higher or vocational training. The reserve troops are getting refreshment training in a constant cycle to keep the FDF ready at all times. This creates a fighting force that is highly versatile and cohesive, with every member being able to take the initiative if necessary. A force comprised of real, intelligent and capable citizen soldiers who are defending their homes and families and take this responsibility seriously.
That ”Home Depo” scene is pretty accurate. Those guys are actually trained reservist who are getting back to military setting. After they get their gear sorted out they set it up and start the refresher training with their unit. No need to yell at their faces either: They’re grown up men and women who know what they are doing and what’s at stake here.
It is definitely not an insult to be called a conscript. The case is quite the contrary with the conscript readiness units: the members of the units are volunteers. The units are equipped and trained to be rapidly deployed to counter ”rapid changes in the security environment”. The fact that they are mentioned means that stuff just got serious.
The Defence Forces also traditionally has a high approval rating within the population, 82% in the last poll in 2019. Part of this is very likely because of the conscription system. Roughly 75% of the male population and a constantly rising number of volunteer women complete their military service. This means that practically every family has had their members serve in the military at some point in time. There’s really no need to argue about the taxes spend for the national defence as everyone basically understands why it is necessary.
That also means that there are no stolen valor village idiots, as you called them, in Finland 😄 You see people in military uniform on public places daily. You’re spot on with the hurry up and wait phase being missing from this movie. We’re trying to address that element as well as other not so sexy parts of the military in our channel videos. In this case it wouldn’t been practical: Wouldn’t want the the film to be 4 hours long.
Oh yeah, about the Day-Night thing: It actually doesn’t get dark during the summer here in the north. During the winter months on the other hand, it’s pretty dark no matter what time of the day it is, so we got some experience on fighting in the dark too 😎""
I think what it demonstrates is that the Finns have a modern fighting force and are prepared on all fronts. For the taxpayers their money is being well spent!
Greetings from Finland. As others have told I can confirm that we have a mandatory conscript system for all male aged 18-30 and they server from 6 to 12 months and after that move to reserves. Being conscript is duty, obligation and honor for all conscripts and not taken as an insult.
In WWII Finland held off MASSIVE Soviet forces for months with a MUCH smaller force and inflicted heavy casualties. They eventually negotiated a peace, being heavily outnumbered...they're fighters for sure...and good videographers too.
And then the second war started which lasted years...
On a per capita basis, Finland and Israel are the two most armed countries in the world. I THINK Switzerland is third. Don't know who's fourth. The USA is back in fifth place.
I remember being very similar to Finland expect they have greater military budget.
If you just count by the amount of various equipment then North Korea is first with its ridiculous piles of old gear. But Finland definitely is quite high on the list
Much respect for you Finns .
Thank you friend
It’s not a recruitment video it’s a video showing how Finland would defend itself. An Estonian soldier did a video on this and talked about how the reserve soldiers would be called up and they use shopping carts to grab all their gear
7:00 the conscript readiness unit is literally conscripts in process of completing their mandatory military training who have been assigned on alert in case something like a major industrial accident happens, where they would be expected to assist in search, rescue, and cordoning the area. Or, as in this case, when the police are dealing with an incident heavier in scope and firepower involved than the civilian authorities are prepared for.
"Seems like these bad guys are pretty stupid"
Well, seems like the FDF Intelligence was pretty spot on about the Russ... Ahem I meant the K2 yellow forces.
4:45 That's basically how you get your gear in the army. Then you haul it to the barracks. Then the training starts.
Being a conscript is not an insult in any nordic country or Finland. It's the primary way to get into the military and the conscripts are the backbone of invasion defence. It was conscripts and volunteers who gave Russia a beating in the Winter war.
The second way to get into military is to volunteer for service. Also, proffessional officers start as either conscripts or volunteers.
The Finns fought back both the German and the Soviets during WWII. This video is a message (to the Russians in my opinion) not to mess with them. Great upload!
But the Russia in 1940 are not the same in 2020! In St Peterburg only there is 25000 speznaz solidiers!
Well, the problem is that if Russia ever really wanted to attack Finland, they would just send 3 nuclear bombs per city: Helsinki, Turku, Tampere, Oulu and Rovaniemi, and that would be it :D They might not even notice the difference in their nuclear stockpile. It would be foolish for them to attack by traditional means.
bombing Helsinki would mean fallout to st.petersburg, Ruskies own city. bombing Turku and oulu would anger lots of swedes, since swedish capital stockholm is near Turku
@@Leo_Dzen So wrong .... That video is not a frippin' propaganda. It's a very realistic description, how the possible conflict against a country would be starting ... especially that so called "gray phase". The gray phase, in it's many faces, is pure "capitalism" ... minimum effort -> maximum result.
To prevent that kind of scenario happening / escalating .... as the old phase states ... "to catch a thief, set a thief".
Aina valmiina, Isänmaan puolesta ... Semper Paratus, Pro Patria.
The "home depot" was the supply clerks that's pretty much what the supply depots looks like in the largest bases, you load your shit into a shopping cart and get out of the way to dress up and pack it into back bags.
"It looks like the enemy is pretty stupid" You got that right. Even goes back to WW2, wearing dark green against white snow haha
invading finland during dark a.k.a winter. well ruskies learn that in hard way in WW2.
Re: night activities of military etc...
Midnight sun and polar night
In Finnish Lapland, the sun sets in late November and generally does not rise until mid-January. This can last as long as 50 days in northern Finland. ... During summer there are equally long days with no real "dark" nights.
I guess what would explain a lot is that the Finnish army is conscription based. Nearly the whole male Finnish population and a part of the female population will serve at least 6 months and thus there is no recruitment aspect to these videos.
Im pretty sure the main goal is to simulate scenarios where an unspecified enemy (lets just assume Russia) starts a modern war against Finland, and these simulations are to more easily point out flaws in the Finnish m.o. in order to improve them.
I guess some scenes look a bit dramatized or too scripted but as a non Finnish European I got to say that Finland has probably one of the strongest armies in Europe, along with the Swiss, Ukraine and Russia.
Also what I think is pretty cool about the Finnish army structure, is that almost every higher educated Fin will also either assume an officer training or special training in coms, logistics, engineering, or something along those lines, which is quite a relevant portion of the Finnish army.
I did not think it was good or bad, just interesting. USA has hollywood to recruit when they don't shite on the military.
@@JamesonsTravels Didn't mean it as critisism. I really like your videos by the way!
The finnish guys have proven their will to win in the recent history... you have alot more morale to defend a country than invading one.
As a simple Estonian im always willing to support them! after all they have helped us
I feel bad that people of Tallin have to see the drunken Finnish tourists all the timexD
We love your country and would never let it slip to the russians again.
Together we are stronger.
Finns and Estonians helped each other a lot in WW2
For the people wondering how it is to be a neighbour of Russia, wether we exagerate the russian threat.
I’m also bordering the Russian space.
I’m from Romania.
i will tell you just why romanians don’t view russia positively.
Firstly they Invaded us 13 times in last 200 years.
In 1812 they incorporated a chunk of our Romanian historical land with 100% Romanian speakers into the russian empire called Basserabia (Republic of moldova today).
They starved the romanians and brought tens of thousands of Russians with suitcases to live in their houses to make the area russian speaking.
(That is why you find today russian speakers in moldova although they are separated by ukrainians 1000km from the russian mainland)
In ww1 we were allies with the russians and sent our gold to Russia for safe keeping because our capital got overran and the russians never gave it gold back. 100 tonnes.
In ww2 1939 they invaded Basserabia again and deported up to 40k-200k romanians to Kazachstan most of them still live there. Many were executed for political reasons by the NKVD resembling the violence of you know who.
They conscripted Romanian soldiers into the Soviet army and put them to fight the Romanian army. Like brother against brother fight.
After 1944 we switched sides and soviets stripped us of heavy weapons and sent romanians where there was the biggest carnage without support in order to run the army to the ground as revenge.
Suffered in last 1 year of war alongide Soviets same killed and wounded as in 4 years sided with Germany including disaster at Stalingrad.
Cold war: Together with enforcing communism and killing our intelectuals in prisons, Russians took food from conquered territories years after the war leading to deaths due to starvation. They created colonial enterprieses called SovRom that mined all our gold, uranium, oil and shipped for free to the ussr till 1970.
We paid more war reparations than Germany in nominal terms, although russia invaded us first in 1939 and spent the last year of war fighting alongside the russians.
Present day russia brainwashes the romanians in the Basserabia (Republic of moldova) and pro russian politicians hold them captive in their own country and try to create fear against Romania saying that we are evil and so... like we were the ones deporting them to kazachstan.
So you now have an ideea i hope so, why certain countries feel they way about russia: because they had many negative experiences with it.
And the russian history teacher or media won’t tell the people of russia that.
They would say that romania has gone insane and is a puppet of america... no is not, it’s protecting herself from what i said above.
No body views Russia positively. Many respect Finland, and view Finland positively!
@@blueduck9409 aton of people view them positively like me and peo0le like you are ruining the world
@@blueduck9409 they saved Europe from the nazis and their finish helpers
@@georgyzhukov6409 And the allies saved Europe from the Nazis, the Russians only came to force annexation on smaller weaker countries. The Fins evicted the Nazis AND the Russians from their country all by themselves. That is respectable.
@@blueduck9409 just like the latvian and ukraniam nazis that gave jews away. It bothers me how many people hate russia. Yea their government is dirty but their people are amazing
As a Finnish conscript, I can confirm this is not really "hollywood".
The only part I can't say about, is the command room part, where the higher ranking officers are in one room in front of computers. The conversations would likely be the same, but I suspect the actual meetings would not take place from one room. But for the sake of filming and making the situation understandable for a viewer, the officers are in one room (for all I know, that might be an actual command HQ setup for wartime, or simplified to be in one room).
The action is mainly the sort of exercises we do in the army every week. I suspect that they just filmed a lot of the normal training missions for most of the action footage. The "news segments" are obviously acted out for the narrative.
The conscript term isn't really an insult for us. We are proud to be well trained and professional about defending our country. The career soldiers here in Finland mostly focus around training and guiding us conscripts. We conscripts show lots of respect to them for dedicating their career to be the very best at protecting our land, family, democracy, and values. They respect the conscripts a lot, for giving 6-12 months of their lives, and a vow to defend the same things with our lives. The backbone of the Finnish army, are the conscripts. If we were poorly trained, unmotivated, and feeling inferior or insignificant, the performance of the entire army would collapse.
The army also doesn't work like conscripts working in different forces than the career soldiers. The career soldiers are in every unit. Their role is to guide the conscripts and lead by example. The conscripts are very well trained. They have done thousands of drills on their specific roles, and the basic soldier's skills. They are very competent soldiers, who respect and follow the orders of the career soldiers, as well as reservist officers.
the funny walmart thing is accurate though. That is how finnish reserves are handed out equipment
To be fair, that "Home Depot Shopping Cart" scenario is how gear is issued in the US as well. At least from my experience in the Army. They give you a lot of gear, so it does help to expedite the process of "Get your shit and get gone."
The shopping cart makes it to go fast. 20 minutes, and you have the gear.
with well prepared "Wall Mart" staff. In our situation, with reserve army, the time for gearing up is quite crucial.
You are filling the niche for all the young guys who just want to sit down and watch some TV with their dads after a long day but cant due to whatever reasons. Keep it up :)
Finland's snipers are legendary.
Well ... Simo Hayha was the most famous, but he wasn't "the only one", there were many more, who fullfilled their task in the front.
Now a days, here in Finland, lies a vast amount of suitable hunting/competition rifles w high quality optics ... :-)
That was cool. So the Finnish people can see how their Active Military and Reserves/Conscripts work together and any potential enemies can easily see they're committed and ready to defend themselves. Well done, Finland!
Good thing you kept a sizeable army Finland./ Greetings from across the pond
If I remember correctly, Finland is one of the few countries that still uses 7.62x39mm instead of 5.45x39mm in their AK pattern rifles due to the forests and the superior barrier penetration of 7.62x39mm.
True. Also because of the dense forests the combat would be mostly on very short range so we really wouldn't benefit from the improved accuracy and range that you get with smaller calibers.
One other reason we still use the 7.62x39 AK pattern rifles is money. There might be more modern weapon systems available but I guess the Defense Forces have concluded that the benefit of more modern rifle wouldn't outweigh the cost and have decided to spend their very limited budget on more important stuff.
Money is the issue.
Newest rifles are 25 years old.
Don't mistake the RK series for a mere AK pattern rifle. There's a reason American gun enthusiasts would love to get their hands on a Valmet.
It's like a mix between an AK and AR pattern (The Israelis copied it for the Galil) with some AK mechanics and ergonomics, and some AR-like ergonomics such as better sights and on the modernized rifles, rails for optics and the like. The gas system is also original if I'm not mistaken.
Reportedly better average performance than either platform, and the ammo used is extremely high grade stuff, not like that horrid surplus comblock ammo. From a bench I think they're around 1MOA at 100m which is unheard of for a service rifle, only really matched by the Swiss rifles. Most rifles are 3MOA or so.
Of course, as reliable as any good AK or AR, although due to age, there are some faulty examples still in the armory, hence the modernization program. Frontline troops get the best rifles I imagine.
Arch RK and AR are both black... that's about it.
You can also put an AK magazine to it and it works, you know... from the dead enemy :D
PROUD to be a conscript in FIN army, its not an insult.
Woah was the training hard
@@gocommitdie7359 Depends on what you're doing. I'd say scout training is the hardest and artillery is the easiest.
I think you should have used like 3 minutes to check what this video is about before starting to watch it.
I'm just glad there is English subtitles.
As many have said, this is not a drafting video since our defence forces (yes, it's actually called Finnish Defence Forces to indicate it's only purpose) are conscription based. Military service is mandatory for all men (with a few exceptions) and a voluntary for women. Historically we have had a very large active reserve. However it's size has been reduced in the last 15 years, mainly to reduce costs. One argument has been that the whole consept on modern warfare has changed and a full scale whole border wide attack is less likely. After the WWII the idea was that we need a big army to be able to man the whole length of our borders. Nowadays the more likely threat would be a hybrid attack against infrastructure by "smaller unmarked forces". This video gives one example of how that might happen if some nation would decide to start an invasion against us.
Finland has pretty impressive war time strength (280 000) and the whole reserve (900 000). With only a population of 5,5 million that would mean the same as the US having a war time strength of 17 million and a reserve of 53,7 million.
Also during WW2 Finland lost 97 000 soldiers & civilians making up 2,62% of her population at the time. That doesn't sound that bad but if we do a comparison like before it would mean the same as us losing 8,6 million.
Pretty useless information but I find it rather fascinating so I thought to share it.
True. Europa should prepare and arm fast because of Russia
Awesome work Finland, from down under
I think this represent a pre-war attack. As in the Crimean invasion where they used unmarked soldiers and units.
exactly. on the end the news broadcaster says "Finland is at war". so the war starts after this gray timeline. The other "taistelukenttä" video tells about the after this.
Why not night? Well in Finland at summer timere there us no night, its just as bright.
Rule number 1 is that you dont never ever try to invade Finland. History tells you that.
Haha yeah, they never lost their independence, which is impressive considering who their enemy was and is, cuz lets be honest norwegians are friends and swedes are too soft, so who else would be the enemy.
...The Soviets learned that the hard way...the military band that Stalin sent to lead the victory parade down the main street of Helsinki lost all their instruments...and most of their lives...the Finns did to them what they did to the Germans at Stalingrad...
@@Alexandros.Mograine Am Swedish and if Willy Wonka wants to invade our country with his ompa lompas he could. All forgiving Sweden has broken down this country
This basically a quasi instructional video for the recruits. When I was in a few years ago, we were shown a similar video but made in the 90s. It's a little motivational push shown in the first few days of the one's service if I remember correctly.
I'm off to the conscript service in the Estonian army in 2 months, you should react to one of their videos !! They have many including a special forces training video also 👊
Good luck buddy, gonna be a great trip for you!
Hope u have a great time neighbour!
I was a conscript and it is the greatest honor of my life. There is nothing greater than protecting your native land.
Every male Finnish citizen aged 18-60 is liable for military service and usually undergo their conscription service after junior high so no recruitment material is needed. This film is more of a public service announcement what to expect if things go sideways. By that i mean that when there's a large disruption in society supporting institutions & systems, you should expect it to be foul play and that more is on the way. This is exactly what happened in Ukraine.
Looking this after Ukraine war starting. They tried to take Hostel Aiport beginning of campaign. Also russian army did attack day since they have no night capabilties. Also tried to use ambhiphous vessels to get shore- And they did not have good airsup port either. Seems oddly accurate.
I guess they are showing possible forms of hybrid war and how they would react to it.
I think this is pretty smart. Gets your troops prepared for all scenarios and they get to have a little bit of fun doing so.
Finns are tough, they gave Soviet forces (who far outnumbered them) more than a bloody nose during the 1939 - 40 "Winter War".
@@Leo_Dzen but it's true 🤔 Just look at the statistics😂
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Finland still has mandatory military service if I recall. Maybe this video is more for retention?
yes Finland has mandatory conscription for all men, this video isn't for recruitment and more to show that finland is ready and able to defend their country from threats.
The Finns have a limited conscription in place and have excellent forces.
They are taking the threat seriously and the Uk should be doing the same especially regarding manpower and industry being geared up before we are too far behind the curve.
The Scandis and the Baltic’s and Poles take this current situation very very very seriously.
People should be aware like in the Cold War that this may escalate and preparation is the best way to minimise this happening.
4:33 shows how they do it in the Netherlands. For me it's not that strange. My first day in the army was the day we had to go to the depot to get our BDU (pgu we call it). We had a cart just like that and got a list wich showed al the equipment we would receive. Except the gun, we got that later.
Beats having to carry all of it with your arms.
I think conscript readyness unit is not a correct term for it, its more like a rapid deployment unit that is made up of conscripts
This is an educational video. It's light day and night in Finland in summer. No darkness.
We are ready.
Every able bodied Fin has to go into military service for a while. That is how they roll.
I believe everything is filmed on site. They have a big military and they are well equiped maybe the best in europe, or even the world. Real big stockpiles and resources. They could handle COVID 19 right away with the stockpiles they have. Also a lot of bunkers to house people when there is trouble. Remember they need to counter Russia if it invades. They will have a hard time with the Fins!
The video is probably made so its a deterrent to an invading force.
This is the most EPIC, thing ive seen military video wise!
Greetings,
Jeff
Hello Jeff, and thank you for your comments! Here in Finland we have such an idea, that Russia is never ever anymore conquering our country. Now we have so much armament, ammunition, tanks, Hornet airplanes, well trained infantry of hundreds of thousand men and one of the most powerful artillery in the world. We know that Russian infantry respects strong artillery. In the summer 1944 Finland's army's artillery was best in the world. (it is true!) You don't believe this, but if you find english pages in Google about Tali-Ihantala fight in June 1944, you may find it. Finnish artillery destroyed then Russian divisions in the vast fight of hundreds of thousands men, Soviet Union (Stalin) thought they will capture our country, but we did´nt agree.
I like it when you manage to sound at the same time like a youtuber but also still like a Marine. And i like how polite you are.