I know right? I think this is some kind of small boutique company that only make pedal when someone request it. I only got one information on Japanese shop. www.soundhouse.co.jp/en/search/index?i_type=a&search_all=beyond+Tube+Preamp&rwordb=y
talkin bout the pre-amp, OMG, when you first start with the level at min, it boosted everything so cleanly with a beautiful tone, excellent!!!! Finally a video with fantastic tone to begin with, then check the pedal on and off, great job wow Your playing is immaculate of course, thanks for this Obviously you know how to setup the gain of your recording interface, no static'y crackles like 90% of youtub vids
They come with 12au7s for the general "clean tube sound" but if you wanna make em scream, 12ax7's use the same pin pattern and will slide right in. I recommend the sovtek high bass or the high gain 12ax7
I have an ART MPA II in my signal chain. I record all of my DI trax through it. I also use it on overheads an vocals sometimes. I hot rodded it with Dr.Js. it makes a difference. A very noticeable difference. No one likes it dry...use a tube preamp. On the art preamp there is a knob for microphone impedance as well. This allows you to look up the impedance of the microphone that you have hooked to the unit, and dial that in. This makes a huge difference as well. Most audio interfaces are set to a maximum impedance so that all microphones are acceptable. But when you dial in the impedance for a particular microphone and give it some tube preamp it sounds completely different than just plugging into the front of your interface. I have a fairly cheap art tube compressor that has an auto setting on it and it makes a huge difference as well. The recorded signal is being controlled way better than trying to do it later in the DAW. Love the videos. Peace out!
Awesome video, Trey! For the sake of transparency and in being objective, I'd love to see you get a hold of a Behringer Vintage Tube Monster VT999 and slap a 12AU7 in it and do the same test. That unit is more than half the price, thus us poor buggers out there would love to see how it compares!
What escapes many, regarding sims is the possibility of running many amps simultaneously and panned all over the place....Running through a stereo FRFR rig is a whole different world 👍😎
This sounds really cool. Just curious, have you done a review of the Xotic Soul Driven Effect Pedal on here before? I'm really interested in buying that one. I didn't see it in your list of vids.
I kind of disagree... The only difference I heard is when this guy started to mess around with the knobs... That being said, the improvements on the tone are not that significant but then again, that would be me having an untrained ear.
On the Pre-Amp, I thought the EQ adjustments translated authentically into intuitive useable responses, with the maxed-out effects tipping into the spirt of rock-n-roll rebelliousness, and boundary-pushing edginess. In addition, increasing the tube parameter produced an audibly characteristic and desirable “tubey” effect. I liked it, and thought it noticeably improved the digital signal.
Question / opinion : I typically run into my daw for amo Sims with a neve 1073 500 series module, sounds fantastic. What do you feel about running this pedal into the 1073 before it hits the Amp Sim.
What would be the effects chain with one of these? Would it be guitar - tube preamp - overdrives - amp SIM Or Guitar - overdrives - tube preamp - amp Sims?
Can either of these pedals add a "Tube Feel" to my setup? ISP Theta Preamp Pedal into loop 1 of a Boss MS-3 multi effects switcher, into Seymour Duncan Power-stage 170. Avatar 4x12 with 2 v30's - 2 G12T75's. My setup sounds great, but I've always wondered if there is a way to add a "Tube Feel" to my sound since my setup is pedals into a solid state amp. Thanks
I am not real sure if I agree that the harmonic overtones and undertones are all distortion per se, is there anything like clean distortion? A few years back I tried running a guitar through my UA Solo 610 mic pre, and since then I have been looking for a smaller, cheaper substitute, but pretty much can't bear to play unless at least one amplifier is running that tasty, rich tone in the mix. YMMV
Excellent demo! The pedal definitely makes the amp sim sound better to me. I have a couple UAD amp sims and might try using my UAD V76 (unison) into an amp sim like Buxom Betty to see if it behaves similarly, but I'll likely need this preamp pedal to get that tube sound.
Glad to see your still boosting out videos w everything that’s going on. Cali & MI be so strict w rules Catch u on your live show so u can toast one of our new tracks. Much love the Cult
Could you demonstrate just using the buffer (boosted) to enhance the tone of amp Sims? I currently do that with my Ibanez & Maxon overdrives (just by leaving them off) but wondered if the tube with a boost knob makes a big difference. Seems like it does for those cleans. Also, what is the effect of using the buffer into the preamp? Because it seems like this is what he’s selling us on is that we need both;)
@@treyxaviermusic Trey-What’s up brother , see even with all the information, there’s little understanding. I had to laugh at those comments , your a good man not losing it. Maybe you should do a video w comments from past videos. Boost that , lol . I’ll have a song for you right around Xmas to review n toast on your live show. Much love from the Cult
@@treyxaviermusic I'm sure he didn't mean like that, also I still don't get if it's sarcasm or just you being smart. Language barrier at play here I guess (non-native speaker).
Maybe psychological since it seems to bump output or slight sound change , and I hear tube and I think better (yrs of indoctrination lol) but I could see using in front modeler to serve that maybe real or psych need!
I like it I have a similar pedal that also comes with a special effect where its triggering Gearslutz audiophiles it’s called the BBE Sonic Maximizer hehe xD
The vacuum tube products of this manufacturer are driven at 9V. There is also no voltage booster circuit. Are you attracted to vacuum tubes that are not driven by high voltage? Beyond is also known in Japan as a smelly company. You should not buy this product. This is just a toy. (※warning)
Does anyone know if this is only for amp sims or if you could use it in Conjunction with and od and a solid state or modeling amp to get that tube sounds.
I’m really not sure if you’re joking tbh so maybe I’ll be whooshed, but yes and no. Of course, playing a tube amp directly is easier, but it’s more difficult to record or play quietly which is exactly what a lot of people want. Cheers!
DAW? Just get a old 30 watt Cube and mic it :) What!!!!!! Telling yea great amp amp sim??? Tone to mic, if that makes sense. Throw a emulate old compressor on it threw mic. LoL I don't know. I've been testing that rout. Works good. Just tests so far.
"Marty is not really known for playing clean tones"
Me who likes his Scenes album : "Ok great"
Great demo
Probably my favorite album by him
Scenes, introduction, true obsessions...
Sounds really cool but the fact that you can't find out how much it costs without giving them your email adress is kind of a shitty move tbh.
With that said.. How much is it?
@@ericventimiglia6482 the non-marty friedman pedal (just beyond tube preamp) around $300 ..probably cost more, because of the signature label.
I know right? I think this is some kind of small boutique company that only make pedal when someone request it. I only got one information on Japanese shop. www.soundhouse.co.jp/en/search/index?i_type=a&search_all=beyond+Tube+Preamp&rwordb=y
It's a small company. That's why.
Cool pedal but it sounds like a really subtle compressor to me not a preamp. Maybe tube compression is the mojo we all seek.
That's exactly what a tube does: compression is a huge part of what we experience as "warmth".
Mean, aren't preamps just glorified clean boosts in practice? A tube compressor would be denk tho
Real tube preamp/power amps are not replicated by simple compression though. I think you know that. I
Perfect. Imma wrap a slice of bacon around that tube and by the end of the set I have myself a tasty snack. ;D
Lol
talkin bout the pre-amp,
OMG, when you first start with the level at min, it boosted everything so cleanly with a beautiful tone, excellent!!!!
Finally a video with fantastic tone to begin with, then check the pedal on and off, great job wow
Your playing is immaculate of course, thanks for this
Obviously you know how to setup the gain of your recording interface, no static'y crackles like 90% of youtub vids
They come with 12au7s for the general "clean tube sound" but if you wanna make em scream, 12ax7's use the same pin pattern and will slide right in. I recommend the sovtek high bass or the high gain 12ax7
I have an ART MPA II in my signal chain. I record all of my DI trax through it. I also use it on overheads an vocals sometimes. I hot rodded it with Dr.Js. it makes a difference. A very noticeable difference. No one likes it dry...use a tube preamp. On the art preamp there is a knob for microphone impedance as well. This allows you to look up the impedance of the microphone that you have hooked to the unit, and dial that in. This makes a huge difference as well. Most audio interfaces are set to a maximum impedance so that all microphones are acceptable. But when you dial in the impedance for a particular microphone and give it some tube preamp it sounds completely different than just plugging into the front of your interface. I have a fairly cheap art tube compressor that has an auto setting on it and it makes a huge difference as well. The recorded signal is being controlled way better than trying to do it later in the DAW. Love the videos. Peace out!
Listen to Marty Friedman "Scenes" album and then speak about his clean tone ;). He's a brilliant musician. One of kind.
Awesome video, Trey! For the sake of transparency and in being objective, I'd love to see you get a hold of a Behringer Vintage Tube Monster VT999 and slap a 12AU7 in it and do the same test. That unit is more than half the price, thus us poor buggers out there would love to see how it compares!
Not sure what that clean tone riff is but I can totally hear it in the background of Ren & Stimpy
*What kind of lead modes are those you are playing? It reminds me of Slaughter.*
What escapes many, regarding sims is the possibility of running many amps simultaneously and panned all over the place....Running through a stereo FRFR rig is a whole different world 👍😎
Sounds cool, will you use it in front of amp sims from now on?
This sounds really cool. Just curious, have you done a review of the Xotic Soul Driven Effect Pedal on here before? I'm really interested in buying that one. I didn't see it in your list of vids.
Very cool. I'm such a fan of Cory's archetype. Great tones and playing.
Those pedals just look sick.
I just picked up the new, bass version of this. Beyond Bass Wired 2S. It's fantastic.
its definitely doing something. and i gotta say, i like that something.
The exact words!
I kind of disagree... The only difference I heard is when this guy started to mess around with the knobs... That being said, the improvements on the tone are not that significant but then again, that would be me having an untrained ear.
On the Pre-Amp, I thought the EQ adjustments translated authentically into intuitive useable responses, with the maxed-out effects tipping into the spirt of rock-n-roll rebelliousness, and boundary-pushing edginess. In addition, increasing the tube parameter produced an audibly characteristic and desirable “tubey” effect. I liked it, and thought it noticeably improved the digital signal.
Siskel...ebert Is that you????
I actually thought the same..
@@mattz0rr Cool! Cheers~
Yeah . some good old real tube 'compression' for the digital natives! Good.
Question / opinion : I typically run into my daw for amo Sims with a neve 1073 500 series module, sounds fantastic. What do you feel about running this pedal into the 1073 before it hits the Amp Sim.
What would be the effects chain with one of these?
Would it be guitar - tube preamp - overdrives - amp SIM
Or
Guitar - overdrives - tube preamp - amp Sims?
Can either of these pedals add a "Tube Feel" to my setup? ISP Theta Preamp Pedal into loop 1 of a Boss MS-3 multi effects switcher, into Seymour Duncan Power-stage 170. Avatar 4x12 with 2 v30's - 2 G12T75's. My setup sounds great, but I've always wondered if there is a way to add a "Tube Feel" to my sound since my setup is pedals into a solid state amp. Thanks
I mean it’s a starved tube so it’s doing a LITTLE something but nothing like what a tube being run at correct voltage would do
Tubes in an amp are only getting 6.5 volts in most cases
So it's a tube boost. Gotcha!
I am not real sure if I agree that the harmonic overtones and undertones are all distortion per se, is there anything like clean distortion?
A few years back I tried running a guitar through my UA Solo 610 mic pre, and since then I have been looking for a smaller, cheaper substitute, but pretty much can't bear to play unless at least one amplifier is running that tasty, rich tone in the mix. YMMV
Would the Beyond tube preamp pedal be better than the torpedo cabm+ preamp sim? I'm running the cab m+ with the EVH mxr 5150
Nice video. Could this improve HX stomp somehow?
Excellent demo! The pedal definitely makes the amp sim sound better to me. I have a couple UAD amp sims and might try using my UAD V76 (unison) into an amp sim like Buxom Betty to see if it behaves similarly, but I'll likely need this preamp pedal to get that tube sound.
is there any point in getting this if you already have a tube amp?
5 star demo !!!
I hear compression and sag
heck yes, I've needed a buffer pedal for a long time.
Could you use it with a fractal aax8 and headrush speakers? Help. I'm close to my old tube amp tone.
Glad to see your still boosting out videos w everything that’s going on. Cali & MI be so strict w rules
Catch u on your live show so u can toast one of our new tracks.
Much love the Cult
Could you demonstrate just using the buffer (boosted) to enhance the tone of amp Sims? I currently do that with my Ibanez & Maxon overdrives (just by leaving them off) but wondered if the tube with a boost knob makes a big difference. Seems like it does for those cleans. Also, what is the effect of using the buffer into the preamp? Because it seems like this is what he’s selling us on is that we need both;)
Did you see Marty Friedman share this video on Facebook???
Hi, is the Beyond Tube Preamp pre or post your plugin? Thanks
Pre
@@treyxaviermusic Thanks!
Where do you get replacement tubes for that little thing?
Hey so you’re like a shredder now. So Ike what have you been doing to get better at the guitar?
Lol he is a Berkeley graduate..so like yeah like he’s like always been like ...a shredder duh LIKE
are these just for plug in's or are they made for modeling units aswell ?
Modeling units also for sure
Sounds good for harmoies
I was keen to hear some chugging
All it needs is a blend/mix knob
It seems like it would make more sense to have this at the end of the chain
mmmm I don't think so, tubes go in the preamp section of the amp, not somehow after the cab
@@treyxaviermusic I mean he has a point, would have loved to hear the preamp straight into i.e. a 6L6 power amp, maybe some distortion before
@@Toolleeow that's not what he's asking for, he said put the pedal at the end of the chain, which is A. not really possible and B. doesn't make sense
@@treyxaviermusic Trey-What’s up brother , see even with all the information, there’s little understanding.
I had to laugh at those comments , your a good man not losing it. Maybe you should do a video w comments from past videos.
Boost that , lol . I’ll have a song for you right around Xmas to review n toast on your live show.
Much love from the Cult
@@treyxaviermusic I'm sure he didn't mean like that, also I still don't get if it's sarcasm or just you being smart. Language barrier at play here I guess (non-native speaker).
Maybe psychological since it seems to bump output or slight sound change , and I hear tube and I think better (yrs of indoctrination lol) but I could see using in front modeler to serve that maybe real or psych need!
Could this be used with a fractal ax8
It would look sick next to a MXR Custom Badass 78' Distortion.
boost it!
I like it I have a similar pedal that also comes with a special effect where its triggering Gearslutz audiophiles it’s called the BBE Sonic Maximizer hehe xD
Best pedal nobody knows about!
He has two tube pedals are they not supposed to be used in combination with each other?
You can definitely use them together if you want.
So where is that tube from? Russia Sovtek? 😄 or China 😢
Cool pedal!
The vacuum tube products of this manufacturer are driven at 9V.
There is also no voltage booster circuit.
Are you attracted to vacuum tubes that are not driven by high voltage?
Beyond is also known in Japan as a smelly company.
You should not buy this product.
This is just a toy. (※warning)
Does anyone know if this is only for amp sims or if you could use it in Conjunction with and od and a solid state or modeling amp to get that tube sounds.
what amp sim is that i need it
Neural DSP Archetype Cory Wong, it's dope
This is the Right way to test it, not pluging into a soldado 🙄
Yes!
so this is the everything sounds better pedal haha
So this is a real tube that you put in front of your fake tubes to make your fake tubes sound real. Seems like there’s an easier way.
I’m really not sure if you’re joking tbh so maybe I’ll be whooshed, but yes and no. Of course, playing a tube amp directly is easier, but it’s more difficult to record or play quietly which is exactly what a lot of people want. Cheers!
Playing fake tubes also is lighter on your back, don't forget about that
@@scacchomattho and wallet
Someone turned my buff knob wayyy down.
Yup sounds tubeeeebeee
you're sure its on dude...
With my toes! 🤣
The word you're looking for is "clipping". YW
No price and that website looks shady AF. I'm good, thanks.
More 🎁
Hey GG
DAW? Just get a old 30 watt Cube and mic it :) What!!!!!! Telling yea great amp amp sim??? Tone to mic, if that makes sense. Throw a emulate old compressor on it threw mic. LoL I don't know. I've been testing that rout. Works good. Just tests so far.
right into my Tascam portastudio for that tape sound
TC Tube Pilots going for $55 on Reverb rn
I want that guitar ! And I want to sound like Marty ! Or at least play like him.. :)
yo where that tomado of dark souls at?
I could buy a real tube amp at that price
With how bad is the ENGL Friedman Inferno this is shit for sure. I love Friedman, I love ENGL but I hate that head.
Many men with beards playing guitar these days.
A tube in a pedal won't do shit.
This guy is wearing a beanie hat over his ears.. and is judging tones?