Have watched 3 of your reviews for this bike. Just outstanding, and so helpful The prices are even cheaper now and for me it's between this and the Poseidon Redwood, which is 6160. I prefer steel and am a roadie by background, so I'm looking for something i can comfortably chew up gravel and longer trails/tours. (The GAP/C&O - Pittsburgh to DC). Sounds like this might be the ticket...was hoping I could do it with 650B but sounds like it's worth getting the two sets upfront. Appreciate your great work!
I would definitely choose this over the Poseidon simply because of the thru axles and SRAM drivetrain compatibility. So upgrading is entirely possible. I can switch wheels from my much more expensive All City Cosmic Stallion to this am if I wanted and everything would work, including the 11 speed cassette.
I have looked into it. I was thinking about an Esker Lorax Ti but they haven't been available for awhile. I also don't know if I ride road/gravel enough to justify spending that kind of money.
@@ShadLife I get it. Is it worth the cost. I live in Colorado and would LOVE to order a Moots but the six grand price tag for a frame and fork is just too high for what I need. Not that I don’t think they’re worth it I just couldn’t justify it. Have you considered a “Litespeed” frame and fork. I think they’re having a fall sale. There are also some really nice steel options too. There’s a German company that bought “All City” bikes and builds all their frames and house. I think they’re called “Saur”(?)
@@Daniel-yf9iy The thing I like about the State 4130 All-Road is the higher stack height. A lot of these frames you mentioned are more of a road geometry and pretty low in the front. I don't want to ride in a low tucked position and this is why I like my current bike and my Salsa Fargo. For me it's about comfort as well as ride quality.
I don't think they purchased All-City, which is a QBP brand. All-City is going to continue through 2024 and then will be shutting down from what I understand. The German company is making very similar bikes, although not Taiwan made like All-City, and thus I think that is why there is a comparison there. Unless you know of somewhere there they announced buying All-City that I haven't seen...🤷♂️ I know Jeff who started All-City when he worked for QPB, I also worked there at the time. He now runs Wilde and works at a local shop here called Angry Catfish.
@@ShadLife Yeah, there was an episode on “Path Less Pedaled” and he interviewed a lady who sells their bikes in a Portland bike shop. Whatever they are they’re German and beautifully made. They’re paint jobs are exquisite and customizable too.
It would depend on which Surly you are referring to. This bike has very modern geometry and sloping top tube with a taller stack height making it more comfortable than most Surly's I have ridden which have a traditional lower front end and almost parallel top tube. That would be compared to a Midnight or Straggler. A Bridge Club on the other hand is a bit more modern and would be similar to this State Alll-Road. In that case, I would take the Surly Bridge Club over the State 4130 All-Road although it will cost quite a bit more.
Yes. I do this for the channel and to show how different upgrades are possible. I also do it, specifically for this bike, because you can literally upgrade one part at a time because of the SRAM compatibility. I didn't keep track of all the costs. If I was to rough estimate it I would say I have about $1400 into it, especially now because I added the carbon fork. What is even more interesting is that I purchased this bike as a review bike and I like how it rides so much that I kept it.
I hated those terreno zero tires the bike came with :/ the flat design is nice but i got so many punctures all the time just from tiny plant thorns Just bought 2 Schwalbe Marathon Almotion tires and probably gonna run those tubeless
I have been running the Terreno Zero tires since day one and I still use them. I set them up tubeless right away and haven't had a single flat. Although I don't have an area where there are plant thorns....🤷♂️
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Great review! This review demonstrates that you don't NEED to buy a $2,000-$3,500+ bike to enjoy cycling and ride events.
I was keeping an eye out for you, but there were too many people. Much better weather than last year. Great work!
Yeah, it's pretty tough to find other people. Even the group I was riding with was tough to keep track of...lol
Shad, thanks for supporting Multiple Sclerosis Foundation. it is a great charity.
Wondering what the "as spec'd" weight of your bike is?
It's about 28 lbs stock. I don't recall the exact weight, but right about there.
Have watched 3 of your reviews for this bike. Just outstanding, and so helpful The prices are even cheaper now and for me it's between this and the Poseidon Redwood, which is 6160. I prefer steel and am a roadie by background, so I'm looking for something i can comfortably chew up gravel and longer trails/tours. (The GAP/C&O - Pittsburgh to DC). Sounds like this might be the ticket...was hoping I could do it with 650B but sounds like it's worth getting the two sets upfront. Appreciate your great work!
I would definitely choose this over the Poseidon simply because of the thru axles and SRAM drivetrain compatibility. So upgrading is entirely possible. I can switch wheels from my much more expensive All City Cosmic Stallion to this am if I wanted and everything would work, including the 11 speed cassette.
You might want to look into a titanium frame. It’s expensive but I think worth the money.
I have looked into it. I was thinking about an Esker Lorax Ti but they haven't been available for awhile. I also don't know if I ride road/gravel enough to justify spending that kind of money.
@@ShadLife
I get it. Is it worth the cost. I live in Colorado and would LOVE to order a Moots but the six grand price tag for a frame and fork is just too high for what I need. Not that I don’t think they’re worth it I just couldn’t justify it. Have you considered a “Litespeed” frame and fork. I think they’re having a fall sale. There are also some really nice steel options too. There’s a German company that bought “All City” bikes and builds all their frames and house. I think they’re called “Saur”(?)
@@Daniel-yf9iy The thing I like about the State 4130 All-Road is the higher stack height. A lot of these frames you mentioned are more of a road geometry and pretty low in the front. I don't want to ride in a low tucked position and this is why I like my current bike and my Salsa Fargo. For me it's about comfort as well as ride quality.
I don't think they purchased All-City, which is a QBP brand. All-City is going to continue through 2024 and then will be shutting down from what I understand.
The German company is making very similar bikes, although not Taiwan made like All-City, and thus I think that is why there is a comparison there. Unless you know of somewhere there they announced buying All-City that I haven't seen...🤷♂️
I know Jeff who started All-City when he worked for QPB, I also worked there at the time. He now runs Wilde and works at a local shop here called Angry Catfish.
@@ShadLife
Yeah, there was an episode on “Path Less Pedaled” and he interviewed a lady who sells their bikes in a Portland bike shop. Whatever they are they’re German and beautifully made. They’re paint jobs are exquisite and customizable too.
What do you think about this frame vs a steel surly ?
It would depend on which Surly you are referring to. This bike has very modern geometry and sloping top tube with a taller stack height making it more comfortable than most Surly's I have ridden which have a traditional lower front end and almost parallel top tube. That would be compared to a Midnight or Straggler. A Bridge Club on the other hand is a bit more modern and would be similar to this State Alll-Road. In that case, I would take the Surly Bridge Club over the State 4130 All-Road although it will cost quite a bit more.
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upgraded to rival ? Is that the brand or model thanks 👍
SRAM is the brand, Rival is the component group level.
So, you bought an $899 bike and upgraded components, tires, handlebars, etc.; what's your cost for the bike with the upgrades?
Yes. I do this for the channel and to show how different upgrades are possible. I also do it, specifically for this bike, because you can literally upgrade one part at a time because of the SRAM compatibility.
I didn't keep track of all the costs. If I was to rough estimate it I would say I have about $1400 into it, especially now because I added the carbon fork.
What is even more interesting is that I purchased this bike as a review bike and I like how it rides so much that I kept it.
Add in the $350 carbon fork and you're pretty close to the cost of a Surly Straggler or similar; have you compared the Surly or others?
Hey Shad what size bike is this? I notice on their website it only offers XS, S, M, L
The small.
Thanks and Happy New Year@@ShadLife
I hated those terreno zero tires the bike came with :/ the flat design is nice but i got so many punctures all the time just from tiny plant thorns
Just bought 2 Schwalbe Marathon Almotion tires and probably gonna run those tubeless
I have been running the Terreno Zero tires since day one and I still use them. I set them up tubeless right away and haven't had a single flat. Although I don't have an area where there are plant thorns....🤷♂️