Soldering Fume Extractor / Third hand Combo - How To (Electronics) | I Like To Make Stuff
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- Check out my combo third hand/fume extractor for soldering!
TOOLS LIST:
(some are better than the versions I own)
amzn.to/2oDC9dB - Googly eyes
amzn.to/2oklM6d - PC fan
amzn.to/2nsbTz8 - Aligator Clips
amzn.to/2okxUnN - Flexible Arms
amzn.to/2ns6V5N - 12V Power Supply
amzn.to/2noeidk - Switch
amzn.to/2nnYszw - Power Plug (female)
amzn.to/2nEXFMv - Silicone Mat (better than what I used)
amzn.to/2nrQPci - Activated Carbon Filter
amzn.to/2aCJYGu - SawStop cabinet saw
amzn.to/2aofRls - 8" Dado stack
amzn.to/2axOLvq - Dewalt 20v drill driver combo
amzn.to/2da9fOJ - Evolution miter saw (cuts wood, alum, steel, etc)
amzn.to/2akFubx - Orbital Sander
amzn.to/2aCK6pu - Grizzly Drill Press (WAAAAY overpriced (3x) on Amazon, buy from Grizzly directly.)
amzn.to/2awLSaO - Shop Fox Hanging Air Filter
amzn.to/2akFN6c - 2HP Dust Collector
amzn.to/2axPmNA - 1 Micron bag
amzn.to/2axFGW9 - Speed square
amzn.to/2akGcWk - Classic steel ruler (cork backed)
amzn.to/2akGJYa - 90˚ corner clamp (4 pack)
amzn.to/2aXHswm - Spray lacquer
amzn.to/2ay9XRX - CA Glue (medium)
amzn.to/2ay9T4v - CA Activator
amzn.to/2anW7yq - Wire
amzn.to/2awMqgO - jumpers (Male to Female)
amzn.to/2aCLdp7 - Soldering iron
amzn.to/2aXbVud - Wire strippers (not the ones I have, but good ones)
amzn.to/2axQ4dP - Thin solder
amzn.to/2aXc3dy - Fiskars cutting mat
amzn.to/2al6w2q - Heat Gun
amzn.to/2ayihkF - Quikclot clotting sponge
amzn.to/2aLCCCN - First aid kit
amzn.to/2aovz06 - Respirator
amzn.to/2aW3nHn - Filters
amzn.to/2aY182W - Eye protection
amzn.to/2axUZ0X - Ear protection
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Soldering Fume Extractor / Third hand Combo - How To (Electronics) | I Like To Make Stuff
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I chose to put the filter behind the fans because it's fairly dense and I was worried that the fans wouldn't draw enough air to pull the fumes through it from the back side. The way it is now, the fans force the fumes onto the filter. Your mileage may vary, feel free to experiment with where you put the filter.
Pull or push through the filter medium matters not I guess other than getting the fans dirty. Certainly is more attractive to look at with spiny things! Should have added a windsock too!
Fair enough :)
I Like To Make Stuff could you use the carbon activated filter for welding fumes too?
I'm honestly not sure if that would be enough but I suppose it certainly would be better than nothing.
Another one hit out of the park Bob!!!
Does solder fumes have a lot of particles in it? Like how smoke from a charcoal or wood grill has soot. I guess Im asking how dirty/destroyed should you expect the fans to be after x amount of soldering?
And now we see the use of googly eyes! Great project!
love the design. Possible upgrade idea: throwing a small USB light on there + a magnifying glass.
Again, love the channel, Bob.
Thanks Ben!
also another possible upgrade, a potentiometer so you can change the speed
Also an arduino for controlling said lights, and fan speed. Heck why not add wheels and some kind of homing system so it follows you.... All kidding aside great build again Bob. Probably kicked me into gear for making my own electronics workstation! :)
i was thinking the same thing about the lights. Good add with the magnifying glass though!
Something I surely need! I am going to build myself one!
Hey, can you make a video showing how we can solder? It could be on your 2nd channel. It would be really helpful for a lot of people, including me!!!!!
I might do that! Thanks for the idea!
I Like To Make Stuff that would be a good idea
I agree
but also there are plenty videos about that already on TH-cam ;)
i think its more that he explains everything really well and has everything in detail os its easy to follow along and understand what your doing instead of being told something and then going and googling what it means
Great video ! Keep going !
Btw I'm trying to enter into the DIY world :)
Did you end up with spray lacquer on the fans and filter? I would be worried it would hinder the function of them.
The flexible tubing for the arms is genius!
I did, it's not very thick so it didn't interfere.
I'm sure that the natural level of dust, never mind solder products, that will end up on the fans will be a much greater concern. :P
I was more thinking if the lacquer sealed up the filter, rendering it nonfunctional. I just try to finish the components before I install other hardware.
A vote for Bob is a vote for our future! (and robots, Bob supports robots)
NOTIFICATION SQUAD BABYYYY!!!!
AWESOME VID BTW!!!! THIS IS GOING TO HELP ME A LOT!!!
Great to hear it! Thanks!
Having had experience with knockoff soldering iron/stations, the extra airflow might affect the iron's temperature. I've had two burn out on me because the outside was being cooled too much while the inside was probably glowing red hot to try and keep up with the heat loss. I added a potentiometer to my exhaust to reduce it and that's worked okay.
You must buy CA Glue by the case HAHAHAHA!
What kind of power supply was used here?
Links to everything in the description.
I don't know why I missed that, my bad! Thanks for the great content Bob!
Cool project and Love the ending.
Thanks for the "flexible coolant hose" tip... nice build! 🤓👍🏼
I made almost the same exact thing for a school engineering fair earlier this year! Love the channel
Awesome! Thanks Davis!
The eyes are what made it a successful project. Good call, Bob.
But the fumes make me feel like Tony Stark :(
Same
legend says if you're early enough Bob will reply...
Some legends are true... some are not.
Just Made My Night... thx Bob
I Like To Make Stuff love it
Im bob
Legend has it Bob does not like to build stuff, he likes to make stuff.
"Hey Bob! How are you doing? Wait what are you doing?" *turns on switch* "QWERTYUIOPASDFGHJKLZXCVBNM"
You forgot your end screens dude! Awesome project, simple and effective. The googly eyes were a nice touch, hah.
DOH! Thanks!
Crafted Workshop What do you mean end screen?
The videos and links that show up at the end so you can click through to more content. I'd forgotten to add them but they're in now.
its probably way too late, but I'd recommend chiseling or CNC'ing a groove / trough either all the way around, or just on an edge. that'd give you a way to not only store the parts you are currently soldering, but to catch any parts that roll off or fall off of your workspace.
I may have missed it but how do you plan on changing the filter? just hit it with a hammer till the glue breaks?
The filter easily bends, you can pinch it with your finger and pull it out. Do the opposite to add a new one.
I so want to get more into electronics! Great little project.
Considering there's clearly smoke coming out the back of the filter, I'd be concerned as to how well it's filtering, especially since it seems to be a water filter designed for recirculating fish systems. Now, I'm no physiwutsit, but water and air aren't the same, and one-pass vs. recirculating systems are different problem domains. Especially when it's probably designed with the fact fish waste is going to clog it up in mind.
BOB THE BUILDER!!!! Has that joke been done before?
Aydin Kilic haha, I haven't heard that one yet. XD
Once or twice (on every video) :)
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LOL
since i waited to see when eyes rolling.. bob turns on in last min.. thanks..
4:38 smoke going right through and out the back....
Love your videos Bob! I know this is an old one but I have a serious question:
You said that you need an activated charcoal filter, as oppose to a HEPA filter. Could you expand on that? I'd like to build one of these, but the research I'm doing indicates that solder off-gasses consist mostly of particulates in the 0.1-1 micron range, and carbon filters (though good for catching gasses) can only catch particles in the 50+ micron range. Since the particulates are what you don't want in your lungs or eyes, am I missing something?
I've been doing my best to find clear and reliable sources on the subject, but a lot of the information I'm finding is anecdotal or companies trying to differentiate their filter offerings, so I'm a little lost and could use some guidance :)
Lol, did you ever get an answer?
@@Handlebrake2 I didn't 😕
@@ZachFejes I think it might be best to secure a fan to an exhaust pipe, just make sure it has a good seal! And then have the other side of the exhaust out the window.
Really great work. One tip: use a piece of ceramics instead of the silicone. Works better. :)
It came out awesome! Soldering fumes are annoying and bad for health! Did you made some changes to the color correction of the video? If yes I like it! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks! We're constantly working on improving the color. I think we've got it pretty well dialed in at this point.
Extra video this week? Sweet!
Extra? Nope, just normal schedule :)
Sure enough! Wow, where has my week gone?!😱
But next week, there might be extra ;)
I aspire to make things as regularly as you, Bob haha! Thanks for the video!
Thanks Drew!
I'm off school currently, so it always feels like a weekend. I completely forgot it was a Thursday, and thought we were getting a bonus video! But woooo, new video!
Notification Squad! Hi Bob!
Hey!
you can put a flexible arm with a magnifying lense in the "front" of the work area, or another flexible with a small lamp? and instead of glueing with epoxy, removable arms can also be usefull depending on the needs ( please forgive my english im french ^^)
add some led lamps and that becomes perfect
Awesome Video BOB! I love how your projects are just hard enough to make them interesting but you it easy enough to make everyone feel like they can do it!
Show meus parabéns Maker kkkjjtop.......
Have you ever badly injured yourself?
I've just started electronics and soldering stuffs. Been trying to look for a ventilator but couldn't find any. Got some old PC fan I can use. Thanks for the idea. Gonna make some now.
I just subbed with all six of my email accounts! Awesome work, Bob! I love it and tried a couple of your projects. They turned out great.
The eyes at the end... I kept waiting and waiting... not disapointed, lol. Good build!
this is such a great idea, bob! i haven't soldered in a while, but may make something similar for a mini laser i got recently. thanks for sharing!
I was waiting to see that eyes spinning. You got me in the end
Added to the queue of Things To Do!
And of course, the oogly eyes are mandatory, yes?
Definitely! It won't work otherwise! :)
love the new music
Looks like one of Hawksrobots . I wish I had a system like this when I was in school. 4 years of fumes on my face.
As I said on the Twitch stream, Transformer sounds needed. Follow up video required.
Bob, please make a pod chair.
Hey, that's pretty good. I don't solder much but making something like this makes me want to.
Does it make sense to put filter in front of workspace to keep fans clean?
Possibly, but I was worried that the fans wouldn't draw enough to pull air through the filter as it's pretty thick and dense. I figured this way it was forcing the fumes to be pushed towards the filter.
I've been meaning to make a soldering fume extractor for so long now... I picked up a CASE of Sanyo 120mm PWM fans from some Amazon seller for pennies on the dollar! (Shame I didn't have a chance to get another case or two before the price DOUBLED!) You can get activated carbon filter foam for real cheap if you buy fish tank or air purifier/dehumidifier filter material in bulk or by-the-foot from Amazon. (Also good for the VOCs in a paintbooth, when combined with a furnace filter to catch particulates first!)
I've been asking over and over again for Peter Brown to make a led strip lightsaber. Maybe you can do it?
I really wanted to "borrow" the design of the filter for my 3D printer (for printing ABS specifically), but I couldn't justify the cost the Dado blade set. So, I decided to 3D print the frame. It worked great! I hope to get it posted soon.
As an Electronic engineer I've used third hands and I can safely say, they are the most terrible thing you can get if you want to learn to solder... It just keeps your work impractical off the workbench, floating and not stable. What's easier, cheaper and keeps your work on the bench (so you can keep your wrist steady on the bench!) is Blu-tack or PlayDough. :)
Wouldn't the fil.... *looks at top comment* oh.
Looks great Bob! I probably would have used one or two of the tubes for a bright LED or a magnifying glass, as per standard soldering kits, but I don't actually own one so I don't know how often people use them.
I want to buy some parts, like those hoses and aligator clamps.
It's not clear from your links which parts i need. Did you use the 1/4 hose and 50mm clamps?
This is a great project but just so you kow, these activated carbon filters do very little more than diffuse the fumes into the air. Most commercial commercial products like this are called fume extractors or fume diffusers because they don't filter the air, you are still filling the room with fumes.
You can even see in the video around 04:35 the fumes are visibly blowing out the back.
Having a tip extractor is the best option, a vacuum pump attached via a flexible host to a metal pipe about 10cm from the tip of the iron will work best, and ensures you are always in the capture zone of the iron, that extracted air could be blown outside, or a pre-filter and box-filter.
For most projects this kind of diffuser unit is probably fine, but for regular use there are risks associated with the flux which can cause occupational asthma, or trigger asthma. If you are doing soldering regularly, either switch to a rosin free solder, consult a LEV specialist, or blow the fumes outside.
Cool project, only thing missing IMHO is a small LED task light. Maybe on another one of those coolant arms so it could be positioned? And, as I am old and frail, an arm with a magnifying glass would be stellar, too.
Very cool project. Will definitely have to make one of these!
maybe someone already asked this, but.... have you tried the fans since you put the googly eyes on them? I'd worry about the extra mass causing premature fan burn out, especially with the impact of the black dots creating lateral that of the bearings.
Hi, I'm zakzor and I like to make stuff. (I just don't have the hardware and physical space)
?hi bob, i'm constantly watching your videos and i was wondering if you could possibly make a video entirely about soldering
thanks.
how long you needed to record this video? Looks like much
Nice build. It looks like the smoke was making it past the filter. Do you think two fans with two filters might give enough time in the activated carbon to be captured? I checked using a laser particle counter and soldering produces very high particle counts so a HEPA filter would also be beneficial.
Thanks for sharing.
Omg this is by far the best project you have made...... and sooooooo cheap to!!!!! Keep up the good work love ur videos!!!!
Great build, the only change I would make is to put the filter before the fan so the fans are kept clean.. Amazing how fast they dust up.
Great work!
sorry but i dont get why you should use a filter, can somebody explain it to me please ?!
You could just use fans to draw the fumes away from you, but the filter should help some with removing particulates from the air so they don't get into your lungs.
The fans draw the fumes away from you, but the stuff is still in the air, just more diluted, so you're still breathing it in, especially if you work in a small space. The filter helps absorb the fumes, so less gets mixed in with the surrounding air, so that less gets breathed in.
Depends on where your safety threshold is I guess?
Is this fume extractor safe to use inside, or would it still be better in a garage or something? (Asking for a friend who lives in MN where it is winter 9/12 months.)
I just had an idea. What if you add another arm with an even smaller fan (w/ filter) so you can get up even closer to your work area? I wanna build one of these and I'm sure the 4 larger fans are sufficient but sometimes I like to get really close to my soldering and i still get some breathed in lol. Maybe I should just use a magnifying glass instead...
All those tools are u kidding me.
U r just making these videos to make us jealous.
If those smaller PC fans are too noisy, you could make the box a bit bigger and use 120mm case fans. they are larger and spin quieter. Alternatively you could add in a speed controller.
A tip would be to apply some heat shrink to like 2 of the 4 alligator clips you have there for tinning wires, as with normal alligator clips, you could risk damaging the wire insulation. If you even plan to use the clips to hold wires to tin them easier.
Very nice job Bob. Was looking for something like this to buy but this is way cooler (because of the fans :P)!
A activated carbon filter is not the proper filter for soldering fumes, the only thing it gets out of the smoke is the smell. Thats also the point why industrial solder fume extractors cost a lot more. It won't protect you from the fumes and you could just use the fans and it would give you the same results.
Notification Squad
YES!
The ending was awesome!!!
bob can you pls make a diy drawer organizer from veneer please.😊😊 and pls reply cause i think your awesome
try to make a guitar wall mount that is collapsable
He looks like hedonism bot from futurama :)
Hi Bob
That's a very nice design, l really like the way you have made it to fold away that's great for all of us that only have a small maker space.
Thanks for all the great videos and the podcasts .
Nice very useful project! Great for Arduino & Raspberry Pi builds.
Like the idea, beats inhaling all them fumes like I've been doing since I was a little kid..
i like the design verry much and i will surely copy it ;)
but it might be good to ad a power supply box for the solderiron and the fans cause it is portable and you might use it somewhere you don't have two power supply ore the only one you have is that far away that you can't use the solderingiron freely
and it would be perfect if you ad a box to store the soldier equipment
I don't solder...yet...but that's really handy. Good job as always.
You should put some Heatshrink over the clamps so they don't bite into stuff. Edit: On the "teeth" on both sides to be clear :)
Woww nice project bob, like malaysian say "kemas bohh"
Nice idea,,
Like your electronic project..
Your tools is very usefull..
ITS A ROBOT!! Does Hawk know? Great tinkerer project Bob. I like the compact design.
Yeah, he really likes the look of this one :)
Great idea Bob.....and your reaction to the rolling eyeballs at the end......priceless.
You could use Grant Thompsons recipe for homemade silicone for the mat, that might work
hey bob, silicone backing mats are really cheap and it would work pretty well for that. cheers!
i noticed your fan choice were airflow optimised fans, youd be better off getting static pressure optimised fans, theyd help push more air through the filter meaning better filtration
Hey could you do some more cool woodworking stuff?
Kipp Kay from Make Magazine made on of these fume extractors many years ago, it was cool back when i was in school and doing a lot of soldering.
You should have added one of those USB soldering irons and a stand, and a rechargeable battery to power everything. Then it would be extremely easy to go solder wherever you need to.
Would this extract other "fumes"? Asking for a friend...
Just getting the fumes out of breathing range is good enough. Doesn,t need filtering unless your building a big project.
What does the activated carbon do? I always thought the soldering fume was particulate?
Im currently using those coolant hoses to hold underwater cameras on an ROV they work pretty well👍