One of the best tutorials for Great Battles I have ever seen!! Practically, well explained and a step into history. A lot of successful online and single player sorties depending on this video 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Fab video. Thanks. Before I saw this I had worked out a quick and dirty method. Get target elevation from Google Earth. For the bomb run just use the autopilot in the roll axis. Do the final line up with the rudder, making sure the final direction stabilises before drop. Fly the pitch manually. Even not using the contact altimeter and ignoring wind effects, as long as you were fairly low, say 1500 to 1000m the accuracy was excellent. Obviously flak was more of a problem but now I can do things properly from a better height. Subscribed!
Hey man, awesome tutorial! congratulations. I have a simple question for you, does this Glide Bombing tactic have a real advantage compared to the traditional Level Bombing ? the precision in both seems to be heavily dependent on planning and precise execution... so why bother to dive down towards the AAA range in order to use the Glide tactic ? thank you!
Hey Kampfgeschwader 76, great video! I'm making a cinematic mini-doco about the Remagen bridge attack and because you seem like an expert on the Ar 234 I wonder if you can help me. I need to know if the 14th March 1945, 1230 - 1530hrs attack took place at low level or at 2000m as you demonstrated. I'm also unsure if there was a pontoon bridge to the south of the bridge as you have placed with the mission editor which was supposedly the target of the 14th March attack. Can you confirm this? Thanks for your help Ill be sure to credit you!
First off, I appreciate you dramatizing this event and your pursuit for "getting it right" but I am not certain I can provide the tactical specificity you seek. Best description I could find is this: "the next day (14 Mar 45), the weather cleared, rendering the German aircraft more vulnerable to fighter attack. During the afternoon, 11 Arados from 6./KG 76 flew gliding attacks through heavy flak down to 500m on the bridge...Allied forces claimed 4xAr 234s...no further operations were flown until 17 Mar" - Arado 234 Blitz by Smith & Creek. Also, on the 14th, 19 234s were dispatched but only 11 hit the Remagen bridge. Some sources claim all 19 went there, this does not seem to be true. On that day, Allies claim 4 234s shot down and 1 wounded and this seems consistent with German records of that day. They recorded 4 losses and 1 damaged return. There is no indication, as far as I can tell, that EGON bombing was used for ALL 234 attacks on the bridge. Only 2 dates of such instance were the 12th and 17th. Bomb type should be discussed as well. The most common bombs used in the attack seem to have been variations of the 500kg bomb (SC, AB, SD), not the SC1000. This was the case throughout most of the AR 234s bomber sorties and throughout the war. The SC1000 was a rare bomb. Never to be used unless absolutely called for. Lastly, the glide attack was not always to terminate at 2000m, just as it did not always start at 4000m (or 6000m). At 01:25, the pictures show how bombs were released no lower than 500m and even above 2000m. In practice, this may have been dependent on the target. If it was a frontline target like a bridge, they could come in as low as 500m for precision. But since most targets (at least early on), were large industrial targets such as ports or railyards, a termination altitude of 2000m usually was warranted.
@@kampfgeschwader76 Thankyou soo much! This gives me good confirmation of the altitude of the attack which I didn't have. As you say, it is noted that 11 out of 19 Arados attacked the bridges and Egon was not used; Ar 234 Bomber and Reconnaissance Units by Robert Forsyth states that the other Arados attacked some other military targets. I have the correct bomb types aswell and the Arados will glide bomb in the video. Check it out next weekend!
Hi, the video is very instructive.thanks for your work.I've been flying for 3 days to get used to the ar 234.This system is difficult, but we are working with perseverance.yesterday i flew on dynamik server.it was cloudyheavy.cloud height was around 1500 meters.hedefı It is very difficult to determine the target location.How do we proceed in such situations?
If the target is obscured by clouds (and you are above it), there is very little you can do. This is a challenge for all "line of sight" bombsights like the Lotfe 7K and our BZA. If it is Overcast: 1) Lose altitude and bomb under the clouds. You have no choice, you must have line of sight of your target or try to rely on ground terrain cues still visible on the edges of the sights to aim at your target. The issue here is you may not have enough altitude to glide bomb. You may want to consider level bombing. If there are clouds (but it is not overcast), you have a few more options: 1) Lose altitude and bomb under the clouds 2) Maintain altitude and hope there is a small opening or "terrain" bomb. That means you rely on ground terrain cues visible on the periphery of your sights to do the aiming. 3) Abort and setup for a Second Pass from a different direction. But before you do this, note the wind direction and speeds and also note the position of clouds over the target. You want your second pass to come at an angle such that when you come back, the clouds have moved away and created an opening. This is tricky. In any case, if you have not maximized every effort to ensure your bomb will hit the target, do not commit. Missing your bombs is a bad feeling.
Affirmative. The Lotfe 7K bombsight can be equipped for level bombing. Like the BZA, the Lotfe 7K bombsight automatically aims for the heaviest bomb on the aircraft, regardless if it is currently selected or not.
how does the target elevation work/do? The linked video is just a mission editor and i dont understand what to do with/about it. can i ingore it and still hit targets?
If accuracy is your concern, target elevation will matter. The farther and/or higher you are from target, the greater that margin of error. Some maps like Rhineland have elevation varying from 0m MSL all the way up 600m MSL. That elevation data needs to be fed into the BZA prior to release so that it can calculate an accurate drop solution for you to use. If you neglect this, especially for a target on a elevated terrain such as a hill, your bombs may land just short enough of target to not destroy it.
Great video! Amazing that in 1944 there was CCIP!
In 1943, there was anti-submarine torpedoes and sonobuoys.
@@advorak8529 you are too boring there is no meaning to make a comparison
@@jackbob-ww4xy Is it not great that nobody forces you to read what I write?
Nor to reply?
A lot of work and research was done to produce this, really great job!
This is exactly what I've been looking for with the BZA. Great video Flyus! Very informative.
One of the best tutorials for Great Battles I have ever seen!! Practically, well explained and a step into history. A lot of successful online and single player sorties depending on this video 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I have been looking for this! Thank you!
Thank you for your work.pls more!
This video is fantastic - - - - -
Great turorial! Thank you!
Fab video. Thanks. Before I saw this I had worked out a quick and dirty method. Get target elevation from Google Earth. For the bomb run just use the autopilot in the roll axis. Do the final line up with the rudder, making sure the final direction stabilises before drop. Fly the pitch manually. Even not using the contact altimeter and ignoring wind effects, as long as you were fairly low, say 1500 to 1000m the accuracy was excellent. Obviously flak was more of a problem but now I can do things properly from a better height. Subscribed!
Excellent! Magnifico!
Great video
Killer video man,very well researched.
Awesome work! Thank you!
Fantastic tutorial! Thanks for this.
Dieter Lukesch was about to start training crews to fly the new four-engined Ar 234C-1 when Germany surrendered. Only about eight C-1s were completed.
Thanks for blessing us with this masterpiece. You should do Ace Combat next.
Hey man, awesome tutorial! congratulations.
I have a simple question for you, does this Glide Bombing tactic have a real advantage compared to the traditional Level Bombing ? the precision in both seems to be heavily dependent on planning and precise execution... so why bother to dive down towards the AAA range in order to use the Glide tactic ? thank you!
Hey Kampfgeschwader 76, great video! I'm making a cinematic mini-doco about the Remagen bridge attack and because you seem like an expert on the Ar 234 I wonder if you can help me. I need to know if the 14th March 1945, 1230 - 1530hrs attack took place at low level or at 2000m as you demonstrated. I'm also unsure if there was a pontoon bridge to the south of the bridge as you have placed with the mission editor which was supposedly the target of the 14th March attack. Can you confirm this? Thanks for your help Ill be sure to credit you!
First off, I appreciate you dramatizing this event and your pursuit for "getting it right" but I am not certain I can provide the tactical specificity you seek.
Best description I could find is this:
"the next day (14 Mar 45), the weather cleared, rendering the German aircraft more vulnerable to fighter attack. During the afternoon, 11 Arados from 6./KG 76 flew gliding attacks through heavy flak down to 500m on the bridge...Allied forces claimed 4xAr 234s...no further operations were flown until 17 Mar"
- Arado 234 Blitz by Smith & Creek.
Also, on the 14th, 19 234s were dispatched but only 11 hit the Remagen bridge. Some sources claim all 19 went there, this does not seem to be true.
On that day, Allies claim 4 234s shot down and 1 wounded and this seems consistent with German records of that day. They recorded 4 losses and 1 damaged return.
There is no indication, as far as I can tell, that EGON bombing was used for ALL 234 attacks on the bridge. Only 2 dates of such instance were the 12th and 17th.
Bomb type should be discussed as well. The most common bombs used in the attack seem to have been variations of the 500kg bomb (SC, AB, SD), not the SC1000. This was the case throughout most of the AR 234s bomber sorties and throughout the war. The SC1000 was a rare bomb. Never to be used unless absolutely called for.
Lastly, the glide attack was not always to terminate at 2000m, just as it did not always start at 4000m (or 6000m). At 01:25, the pictures show how bombs were released no lower than 500m and even above 2000m. In practice, this may have been dependent on the target. If it was a frontline target like a bridge, they could come in as low as 500m for precision. But since most targets (at least early on), were large industrial targets such as ports or railyards, a termination altitude of 2000m usually was warranted.
@@kampfgeschwader76 Thankyou soo much! This gives me good confirmation of the altitude of the attack which I didn't have. As you say, it is noted that 11 out of 19 Arados attacked the bridges and Egon was not used; Ar 234 Bomber and Reconnaissance Units by Robert Forsyth states that the other Arados attacked some other military targets. I have the correct bomb types aswell and the Arados will glide bomb in the video. Check it out next weekend!
Hi, the video is very instructive.thanks for your work.I've been flying for 3 days to get used to the ar 234.This system is difficult, but we are working with perseverance.yesterday i flew on dynamik server.it was cloudyheavy.cloud height was around 1500 meters.hedefı It is very difficult to determine the target location.How do we proceed in such situations?
If the target is obscured by clouds (and you are above it), there is very little you can do. This is a challenge for all "line of sight" bombsights like the Lotfe 7K and our BZA.
If it is Overcast:
1) Lose altitude and bomb under the clouds. You have no choice, you must have line of sight of your target or try to rely on ground terrain cues still visible on the edges of the sights to aim at your target.
The issue here is you may not have enough altitude to glide bomb. You may want to consider level bombing.
If there are clouds (but it is not overcast), you have a few more options:
1) Lose altitude and bomb under the clouds
2) Maintain altitude and hope there is a small opening or "terrain" bomb. That means you rely on ground terrain cues visible on the periphery of your sights to do the aiming.
3) Abort and setup for a Second Pass from a different direction. But before you do this, note the wind direction and speeds and also note the position of clouds over the target. You want your second pass to come at an angle such that when you come back, the clouds have moved away and created an opening. This is tricky.
In any case, if you have not maximized every effort to ensure your bomb will hit the target, do not commit. Missing your bombs is a bad feeling.
Is it possible to do level-bombing with that?
Thanks for your work :)
Affirmative.
The Lotfe 7K bombsight can be equipped for level bombing. Like the BZA, the Lotfe 7K bombsight automatically aims for the heaviest bomb on the aircraft, regardless if it is currently selected or not.
how does the target elevation work/do? The linked video is just a mission editor and i dont understand what to do with/about it. can i ingore it and still hit targets?
If accuracy is your concern, target elevation will matter. The farther and/or higher you are from target, the greater that margin of error.
Some maps like Rhineland have elevation varying from 0m MSL all the way up 600m MSL.
That elevation data needs to be fed into the BZA prior to release so that it can calculate an accurate drop solution for you to use.
If you neglect this, especially for a target on a elevated terrain such as a hill, your bombs may land just short enough of target to not destroy it.
@@kampfgeschwader76 Ah okey. Man so now i gotta do that entire process just for the elevation XD. Thank you tho, wish you the best