Backpacks: Flat-open vs. Vertical Access, and why it matters

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  • @unknownriderinbound
    @unknownriderinbound 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You gotta pick your pack for the intended use. Learned the hard way on a motorcycle when my clamshell pack unzipped itself on I-5 halfway between LA and San Diego. Dodging traffic at midnight picking Disney souvenirs scattered all over the interstate really inspires one to reconsider their equipment choices.

  • @Brightside0208
    @Brightside0208 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is why I carry the outrageously tactical looking 5.11 rush 12, I couldn't find another quality clamshell style pack within my price range.

  • @Rommel1988111
    @Rommel1988111 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The more generally usted terms are clamshell vs toploading

  • @Sarrienne
    @Sarrienne 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Top loaders make a lot more sense when you're caught in a heavy downpour. The side zips on clamshell packs always leak if the rain is heavy enough.

    • @iamtoast3397
      @iamtoast3397 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Unless it rains frequently where I am, though, I'd rather pay for one decent clamshell and an occasional-use rain cover for it than buy two full packs.

    • @Sarrienne
      @Sarrienne 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iamtoast3397 That one time you don't, though... It's why military issue packs are always top loaders.

  • @ossilong
    @ossilong 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Would be interesting to see what you carry in your IFAK.

  • @slidetek
    @slidetek 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've got 2 that have both, but they're also camera/tech-centric. Another consideration is *which side does the flat open open on?* I prefer the opening side to be on the strap side. That way, you're laying the pack _outside down_ into the dirt/weeds/burs etc. and those things aren't going to get stuck to the straps or back-side up when you put it back on. Typically, top opening is for quick access (camera and long lens) and the flat open is to get to everything. Added advantage for forgetful old farts is even if you don't close it, once on it can't spill the contents.

  • @thegeneral123
    @thegeneral123 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    My Riutbag X25 is similar to the GR1 but without the molle crap, which I don't want on a low key greyman bag. It's also substantially cheaper. Love the flat open/suitcase opening. Makes life a lot easier when running a camera padded compartment in the bag.

  • @Jason_from_cal
    @Jason_from_cal 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your voice is perfect for TH-cam. It keeps people interested to keep watching. I can't watch low energy talkers..

  • @charmaine.s_EDC
    @charmaine.s_EDC 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Totally agree I've used a lot of backpacks over the years All top loaders. They were all good till I encountered a clam shell opening bag from Maxpedition, the Entity 23. It's lile the Go Rock (sorry if I mispelled it) but less tacticool, very office appropriate and tons of useful organizational pockets. I suggest you check it out.

  • @iamtoast3397
    @iamtoast3397 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Big agree with all of this, won't buy a big bag that can't open like that any more. I really appreciate when they add an SRB on either side just below the shoulders though, so you can still over-load it with stuff that sticks out the top without the zippers gradually sliding down the sides.

  • @Cuptow
    @Cuptow 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wow. That Gr1 costs damn near 400 bucks. I would love it if you started putting prices at the time of your videos in the descriptions just so I wouldn't have to do so many double takes when I then search Google out of interest.

  • @BootsWalken
    @BootsWalken 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another benefit of this type of pack as a daily carry pack is that you can throw it in the passenger seat of your car and have any of the gear you need easily accessible at all times. I carry the Oakley Extractor sling pack this way. It goes with me when I leave the house and stays in my vehicle while I'm out.

  • @ElijsDima
    @ElijsDima 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The more important issue is whether the backpack has a proper 5-point attachment harness for a full-size emergency parachute.

  • @AverageDE
    @AverageDE 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love flat access packs. I have a recycled firefighter battalion and it makes packaging/unpacking much easier.

  • @neverstoplearning2
    @neverstoplearning2 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Nick! I enjoyed that. I have fallen in love with the Peak Design Everyday Backpack....I would look into sending it to you for a review, but I can't part with it, even temporarily! :)

  • @mitchboysen8248
    @mitchboysen8248 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The topper for me is the gr1 is made in the USA and had a great warranty and supports a great cause

  • @jason5174
    @jason5174 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a GR1, and way too many other bags. My favorite is the Black Rock gear urban bugout bag. It is perfect for daily carry and worth checking out.

  • @joe_a_photo
    @joe_a_photo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The GR1 is totally amazing.

  • @FullyAdamatic
    @FullyAdamatic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like the clamshell, but only trust my (overpriced?) high end bags with it (GoRuck Rucker, and Tumi). I think zipper blow out is a real concern, with catastrophic consequences, in lesser bags.

  • @JustIn-op6oy
    @JustIn-op6oy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    For a laptop or electronics I'd definitely like clamshel with internal dividers. If I'm going camping/hiking/hunting I always go top loading.

  • @CopperMurdoch
    @CopperMurdoch 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would be interesting to know what MOLLE compatible accessories you are using.

  • @YanDoroshenko
    @YanDoroshenko 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    $395 for a backpack? Wow! I also like how they portray a tactical operator tactically operating with this backpack with it not having a quick drop option.

    • @drasiritzbir
      @drasiritzbir 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      3 Words: Arc'teryx LEAF Drypack.. You are welcome :-D

    • @YanDoroshenko
      @YanDoroshenko 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@drasiritzbir Yeah, apparently that's a better investment than either gold or Bitcoin.

  • @paulg1992
    @paulg1992 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Check out Mystery Ranch gear. Their 3-zip design gives great access and is virtually waterproof.

  • @TruckGuyHD92
    @TruckGuyHD92 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mr fashion blogger I'm curious when your going to start reviewing lunch boxes or do you not take lunch. I'm curious whether it fits in your bag vs carry in hand. Maybe you surprise us with some taticool 5.11 vs brown paper bag. So what is it batman??

  • @dude28405
    @dude28405 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The only downside to a flat open backpack that I could see is you have a lot more zipper real estate to fail. The vertical open like the Oakley will give you a better security but the other one gives you better access

    • @normrubio
      @normrubio 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Buy packs that use good YKK zippers. I've never had one fail.

    • @dude28405
      @dude28405 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@normrubio I have but I am a maniac I am super hard on everything

  • @Verus3
    @Verus3 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nick, do me a favor and get yourself a vanquest bag. It is worth the money. I have several and love them all. I have destroyed many backpacks in my time, but all my vanquest ones are still going strong.

  • @adamhaker7346
    @adamhaker7346 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe check out the Haglöfs Corker. Interesting in that it opens from the side, giving youa lerge opening without taking up all the space...

  • @mikep2609
    @mikep2609 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not only is the Oakley a vertical open backpack but the flap constantly closes when trying to load it. Basically you can only load with one hand as you use the other to hold the flap up. It’s my biggest issue with the bag and why it never gets used.

  • @Tennischamp450
    @Tennischamp450 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m super high speed so I need a ruck for everyday life and this fits the bill

  • @JasperSteve
    @JasperSteve 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The GR1 is great. Hard to find a decent bag. Wish they made on for everyday carry.

  • @ShellShock794
    @ShellShock794 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you're looking for a good backpack, look at motorcycling backpacks. Unlike "tactical" bags that just have a bunch of random bullshit added to them, they're designed with specific features/pockets for specific items.
    They're designed to distribute weight evenly and usually have padding for back supports. They're also waterproof and typically lightweight

  • @rustyknifelover4463
    @rustyknifelover4463 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like your old pack

  • @kalebbaker812
    @kalebbaker812 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just curious, do you or will you have a review of the goruck gr1?

    • @NickShabazz
      @NickShabazz  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I will! I’ve been using it for 4 years now, so I’m about ready. Just need to film.

  • @dude28405
    @dude28405 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Things that I've never considered everything I have is vertical access I may want to switch it makes sense

  • @ocomegashadowstacking5886
    @ocomegashadowstacking5886 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow really amazing reviews!!!! :D

  • @cowpow16
    @cowpow16 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nick have you tried the 5.11 rush 12 fantastic bag n superior to the gr

  • @michaelrast4263
    @michaelrast4263 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video Nick!!!! Thank you very much!!!

  • @angelonmeier9019
    @angelonmeier9019 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You got Tupak ? How did you get him condidering he is dead ?

  • @hapdiesel
    @hapdiesel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That Oakley backpack looks like the Predator.

  • @lobotomite9767
    @lobotomite9767 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I prefer vertical opening, I don’t like doing a horizontal dance with my backpack...

    • @NickShabazz
      @NickShabazz  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey, as long as the backpack consents, don't judge me.

    • @lobotomite9767
      @lobotomite9767 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nick Shabazz hey what happens on the knife disassembly table... stays on the knife disassembly table

  • @kyleburton7394
    @kyleburton7394 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should review tech and tech accessories youd be good at it

  • @FidelCashflow_YT
    @FidelCashflow_YT 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't carry enough stuff for a backpack. Plus they draw a lot of attention. I use a sling bag if I need to carry extra things. They're less noticeable, and less bulky.

    • @thomash4578
      @thomash4578 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree.
      To me, and this is of course just my opinion, backpacks look a little too " middle-schooly" to me.
      Other people like backpacks and that's great.

  • @tungstenivoxide2407
    @tungstenivoxide2407 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Jesus christ! The GR1 is $400!

    • @beanie0026
      @beanie0026 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing. They sell a ton of them also.

  • @EDC_Bond
    @EDC_Bond 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The goruck has so much room it can hold all these things, AND THE KITCHEN SINK

  • @clintonlewis1663
    @clintonlewis1663 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice pack, camo version would be cool.

  • @GustavoHernandez1
    @GustavoHernandez1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow ya casi llegas a los 100 mil, recuerdo cuando sólo tenías dos mil subs, muy buen análisis, jamás lo había pensado y mi edc fue la Rush 12 por 5 años y actualmente es la Rush 24 y lleva siendo así por dos años

  • @karlstevens7062
    @karlstevens7062 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kinda agree with what said but them double zipper bags are much easier to steal from plus how weather proof those zips are is hard to say.

    • @Rushil69420
      @Rushil69420 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Karl Stevens zippers from good companies will often be the most water proof/resistant part of a bag, whereas shitty stitching seams are more likely to let water/moisture in.

  • @katzsteel
    @katzsteel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Whaaaaaaaaat? Is this really a $400 bag? Does it come with a brick of gold? WT?

    • @beanie0026
      @beanie0026 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes it 400 dollars. No it doesn't come with gold.

    • @thomash4578
      @thomash4578 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      400 is a lot to spend on this type of backpack.
      If that works for some people, more power to them.
      I just don't think that a bag should cost more than the stuff I am carrying :)

    • @beanie0026
      @beanie0026 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The people that have this bag. All the important stuff in there costs more then the bag.

  • @nohcho84
    @nohcho84 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ouch, 400 hundo for goruck gr1. No thanks

  • @sheltermonkey6065
    @sheltermonkey6065 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ummm... I think the term you're looking for is "panel loading backpack".

  • @silentbob242789
    @silentbob242789 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where are Oakley bags made?
    Oakley is an American brand that's been designed and engineered in California since the company's inception in 1975. For a long time, Oakley manufactured all its products in the USA, many at the company's headquarters in Foothill Ranch, California, which is famous for its architecture. To answer your question in last part in the video. This is directly from their website.
    Bro you got maybe a pack that escapes the quality control but seriously. Some of the stuff you complain about is really minor. I would weather get Oakley over any other bag and that is saying a lot because the last back pack i had was an Eastpack Back pack which for ten years.

  • @johneli495
    @johneli495 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Top loading draw string packs are generally more reliable, though I don't enjoy using them as much as panel loaders

  • @PastorDr.MartinSsempa
    @PastorDr.MartinSsempa 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Top loading vs panel.

  • @gardenerman5734
    @gardenerman5734 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am a trucker.vertical is more practical

  • @grantcook5376
    @grantcook5376 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pack it in Nick ,

  • @coldhardtruth8518
    @coldhardtruth8518 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    eh jimmy hoffa

  • @jacknemo8021
    @jacknemo8021 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'll give ya a buck for the Oakley.

  • @jfnurod
    @jfnurod 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice but not $395 nice! Wtfffff

    • @joshuamacalanda3870
      @joshuamacalanda3870 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have one it used to be a lot cheaper. I hit mine new for 215ish

  • @rodsofgod6863
    @rodsofgod6863 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Clam shell opening is pure hipe, zipper fails?? Vertical you dont need a flat surface and worry all of your crap starts falling...

  • @kriztu
    @kriztu 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can do some Tetris 😁👍👍👍

  • @davidaxman
    @davidaxman 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh my the Oakley looks the Predators ugly cousin... I would NOT carry that thing.

  • @jamiejones8115
    @jamiejones8115 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    No shit!