This should be a recall item, Ford is really starting to piss me off, this is ridiculous to ask the owners to pay for this! Great video as always Brian, thanks for making.
I agree...As a matter of fact, my 12 Fusion lit up an Evap related CEL that was diagnosed as a broken/defective fuel filler door (Plastic crap) which of course the dealership said I broke. Now that causes an Evap leak and should be covered under the emissions warranty... Nope, it's a user item and cost me $100.
The entire engine should be recalled! What kinda dip shi* engineer builds a water pump into the inside of the timing cover?!? If any of you don't know your engine will be trash by the time you know the water pump failed! If you have the duratec don't take a chance,have that water pump swapped and everything around it! Ruin what i hear it likes to happen before 100k, bought my edge at 126k and had it done the same week..had i known i would have passed! Pos has one prob after another..hence why I'm here!
The Engineers are genius. They tricked us into buying a made in China POS that basically needs thrown away after half a dozen yrs, making you go buy a new one
Thanks to this video I was able to work on my wife explorer. Listen to the video carefully, before you screw in the cover. BE SURE NO LINE IS CAUGHT UNDER IT. I pinched the alternator cable to the battery, and sparks were flying, smoke and burning rubber smell. I got to look my wife in the eye and tell her about a little incident. I tought I fried all the electronics. Anyway a friend of mine help me to fix the cable a day later. At the end my wife was happy. I also replaced the spark plugs and saved about $700. Great video
I bought the rocker cover and installed it while changing the spark plugs and PCV valve… Ours use to puddle in the area between the throttle body and the air filter… Since changing the parts, drove round trip from Anaheim and Monterey and back… after another trip over Thanksgiving too. I finally peeked into the hose that usually was wet! It was dry as a bone and the car ran great and no burnt oil smell out of the exhaust with the 3.5 six Edge Limited 2011… Glad I finally did the job…. Well worth the effort at 88000 miles! Thanks for the heads up on the updated rocker cover!
thanks for putting this video together.... we opened up the airbox tonight and saw oil on the air filter.. and looked up on google and found this video.. certainly made me feel a lot better knowing there's a fix... we're going to change out the valve cover this upcoming weekend..
Did this a couple of days ago, after watching this video a couple of times I could basically do this job very straight forward, took me a little over 1 hour, thanks!!!
From reading all the comments, it's best to buy the last model before they go to the new design. Look like it take 4 years to figure out all the possible problems, then they start all over again with the new model. I am just thinking outside the box.
Thank you for this video. I was able to get all the parts necessary and completed this repair today on my 2011 Edge. Mine was actually leaking oil out where the intake tube connects to the throttle body and had collected in the valley below there. I appreciate your video which made this job much easier!
Great video, as usual. Would have liked to see the old cover to compare it with the new "baffled" cover (for curiosities sake). Also might be a good idea to clean the throttle valve since it got a lot of oil on it and could be coated with "baked on" deposits and a good cleaning could help with good idle quality.
@@FordTechMakuloco I agree. I'm almost positive this is what just rendered my car unsuable. I replaced the Rear one (PITA let me tell you!) Definitely gonna tackle the front now.
@@FordTechMakuloco ok so this is very strange i must say. I have a 07 Expedition and the same thing. Mustve been 1/3 QT. That came out. I took off whole intake and used simple green and dawn soap warm water to flush out as much as i could. But still feels asif i sprayed it with silicone spray. So strange....
I thank you so much for your videos, your intake manifold one taught me that i can do it and fixed my truck! I even cleared all codes and the ecm to clear out the fuel trims.
I have the same issue on my 2013 Explorer. Not nearly as bad though. I pulled the breather tube and installed a transparent fuel filter between the valve cover and the main intake tube with 3/8" tubing. I'm catching roughly 1 tablespoon of oil per oil change (5k miles). and I can keep an eye on it. No oil is going into the intake now. I may have one of the newer design valve covers already, seeing as it's a very little amount of oil.
Thanks for the video. I have a 2011 Explorer with what appears to be a bad VCT Solenoid. I have looked everywhere for information, pics, videos, etc showing the VCT's and how to change them. I can't find ANYTHING. This is first video I have found that at least shows them, and how they are mounted in the engine. I know that was not what the video was about, but it helped me anyways.... Unfortunately, the one I suspect is bad is on the other bank (closest to firewall). Hopefully it won't be too much of a bear to get that valve cover off. You made front bank look easy!!!
I just did this swap to the new part number on my 2013 3.5l Edge. With both valve covers off, I couldn't tell the difference from this revised part number to the factory original in appearance inside. While I observed a little minor oil on the throttle body, upper intake tube and tube running from valve cover to intake, but not nearly enough to pool up like in the vehicle in this video. In my case i just saw signs of light sprinkles. The bolt torque sequence link you included is not working.
I am going to be doing this repair for my friend's Edge. I did a tune up last time and her intake and plugs were all so oily. I will be doing a PCV valve and I will check the intake again.
This oil problem seems to be quite common on the Ford engines. I have a 2012 Edge 2.0L Ecoboost that seems to have the same issue. Is there a new valve cover for it as well? I have seen other videos where an oil catch can is installed between the PCV and fresh air intake to catch the blow by oil. Is that something you've done before or even recommend? I really like to see you do a video fixing the oil issue on the 2.0 L EB engine. Get video and explanation of the process.
I'm slightly confused, I need to do this on a 2011 Edge. The guy at the Ford dealer said BR3Z-6582-G was the " Front" valve cover, but the link in your description says -R, not -G. I really don't wanna order the wrong one, so if you could clear that up for me, that'd be cool.
FordTechMakuloco that's what I was thinking cause R is the left valve cover, so if you turned the engine straight like a V8 would be, left would be drivers side. I didn't believe that dude at the dealer, I just asked him that after I picked up the intake gasket since I was doing spark plugs on this 11 Edge the other day. Your video was a big help with that too, wasn't as hard as it looks. Thanks a lot man.
That hose you took off the intake, you kept calling it the fresh air inlet. What is the part number I need it and I can't find one anywhere, not even ford knows! Thanks
I have a 12 edge. Should I change valve cover even if i dont experience this problem? Will I eventually have this issue? Or how do I know if the cover was already changed? My car has 106k miles on it and I'm not the original owner, but it has been dealer serviced (I see a lot of new OEM parts on the car).. Thanks for the video, awesome work.
Unfortunately the part number for the cover is printed on the baffle on the underside of the cover. If you don't have this pooling or a trail heading to the throttle body I would not be worried about it.
I put an oil catch can under my hood for my 2014 Mustang V6 3.7L. I catch oil and I love the catch can. For the first 13k miles, the car didn't have an oil catch can.
What is the actual name of the fresh air inlet nipple at 23.19 ? Is it the same thing with PCV valve? The actual PCV valve is far back near the firewall. Thanks
I was going to do that but I looked and there isn't much to see they look almost the same it is the baffling on the inside that has change which is all molded into the valve cover itself and hidden by the shield.
I have a 2011 Ford Taurus I bought used a few months back. It's a fast car, amazing daily driver and lots of fun but I will say I'm kinda disappointed in Ford. There are a few problems with it that I would have expected be fixed with a recall.. I'll definitely take my time to see what issues people are running into before purchasing a Ford vehicle again.
The fix on my 2013 Impala with the 3.6L motor was to slightly increase the orifice openings on the PCV valve. That completely solved this same issue. This issue is due to a poorly designed PCV system that doesn't pull enough vacuum to keep a positive flow through the system.
FordTechMakuloco I noticed you broke one of the red tabs for the coil. I did the same thing on my car when doing the plugs, I saw at the end of the video you had a new one installed. Where can I find new locking red tabs?
The last one was a success for sure no problems helped allot of people I did a small one in 2016 locally and across a few states but that's about it. No plans for a full blown tour right now.
Hmmm, no doubt that's a problem. The vent side of the PCV system should be oil free. Nice inexpensive fix though, but I wonder if a new line with a check valve in it would also work?
Yes, it works. I installed a transparent fuel filter with 3/8" hose in place of the breather tube and it's catching all of the oil. Just change out the fuel filter at every oil change. $5 or so.
thanks for the great video. plan on fixing mine this weekend. this was brought to my attention during my last oil change. cant help but wonder if mayby this is some kind of issue . mayby a vacuum pressure issue...didn't have this problem until later. currently at about 80000 miles....always checked my air filter at oil changes and it was always clean. thanks again
At times I believe there are built in issues for return repairs. Hyundai V6 with leaking front valve cover at the timing cover t-joint edge, that leaks down onto the alternator to fail but the same design on the back cover doesn't leak.
I have a 2011 ford Taurus that is showing this very issue. Problem is, the valve cover on my car has only one VCT port not two like the one shown. Is there an updated valve cover for this model of engine? Can I pull the cover and clean the vent plate channels to prevent the oil from venting up the tube? A standard PCV valve fits in the same hole as the fresh air nipple, would replacing that with a PCV and using a standard rubber hose back to the air intake prevent the oil? I have also inspected the PCV valve on the rear valve cover with no change in the situation.
Re removing the old Permatex black -- sure a blade works and Scotchbright. If you get a chance try some pure cyclohexane on a small cloth. It cleans off (dissolves) silicon rubber very well. Also good for removing glue from bathtub stickers and side window stick-on frost shields that used to be used up north back in the day. Very flammable so no smoking or open flames.
I have a 2012 ford edge 3.5 I noticed oil was filled in the crash air lined leading to the intake tube prior to the throttle body and you could see oil pooling in the tb. Is this the problem the new cover fixes? It just seemed like a very excessive amount of oil being brought into the intake.. I didn't know if something worse was going on.. I replaced my pcv but that's on bank 1 and the bank 2 fresh air line is were the oil was getting into the intake.
does 2015 explore still have same problem or they comes now with new covers? ?? so u don't have to change it . meant the issue only on 2012 and older???
Do you have any idea why my 05 f150 4x4 jerks in four wheel drive w/all wheels on snow? feels like back and forward jerking,speeds up when I go faster,gets worst! please make a video on this. thanks,love your teachings!
I've got an 06 150 when I start it and park it on a slight incline and start it up again it will smoke just a little and it's done it since it was new is this the same thing that's going on like what was on the explorer.
most likely the oil puddles around the valve stem seal on downhill side and soaking through overnight. Probably not worth changing because under normal flat driving it's not worn enough to let oil through. Just when it sits and soaks.
Curious if you have found any issues with the 2014 models I found oil coming down the front of the engine and collecting around the oil filter and front of the oil pan area only 28,000 miles...
I appreciate you taking time to answer my question. Although there is no such thing as a perfect automobile I love my Fords. 19 years now. Thanks for all of your videos.
Apparently, the 2011-2014 Mustang 3.7 V6 is different? Also, most of your videos are truck and SUV. Any chance you will do some Mustang videos? I used your 6r80 fluid change video for my Mustang. Thanks.
On reassembly. Why not install the coils first, along with the oil fill cap and oil dip stick. This would further prevent debris from falling into the spark plug holes.
It is best to no disturb the gasket and sealant so I would say at least do the first step and snug down the bolts before touching any of those items. At this point your engine should be ultra clean around these holes and debris should not be a problem just tools.
I got a 2012 Ford Fusion 6 cylinders with the same problem..oil all over air filter and inside the intake..do you think changing valve cover will fix the problem??
This is going a little of the topic Bryan but, the new 2018 Ford F-150 will have a 3.0 V6 power stroke diesel option. Any chance you will be trading in that Ram 1500 for a Ford F-150? They probably saw your video on why you bought the Ram instead of a F-150 lol.
I've had this issue on my 2009 ford taurus just changed the PCV valve , it was soaked with oil, I found oil in my intake, and around intake gasket as well as the throttle body. So hopefully that fixes it for a moment
My valve cover got replaced but oil is still accumulating in my engine. As in the dealer replaced it right before my 60K miles 5 year warranty ended. My filter is filled with oil lol...
Well another Fubar from ford. I own a 1994 f 150 with the 300 inline /4.9 200.000 + miles and never any issues. this is good for the Tech but crap for the owner ! Another case of the new ford mentality, you buy it and pay and pay for mistakes they knew about or heaven forbid created . No new ford for me this was what Five years old. Thank you for sharing. Sorry for the rant.
There is a big difference,between a part wearing out normally and a part that's made to fail or parts that are not tested to see when and how they fail. And also just how much money do you think Ford and company's like them make off of replacement parts to fix their mistakes which I believe they do on purpose,IMHO. I get sick of working on cars and trucks that anyone should see is half A$$ed or made to fail after the warranty expires. If I did my job the way these company's build cars, I wouldn't a job ! Of course a lot of people change to the new model before the thing starts to fall to pieces. Even Subaru has gotten slack with what had became a bullet proof design. Now the drive by wire is a nightmare !
For the 3.5L Ecoboost: For 2010-2014 Flex, Taurus, MKS, MKT and 2013-2014 Explorer: 3.5 GTDI excessive Oil Consumption and/or smoke from the exhaust at idle during normal engine operating temperature - aluminum valve cover: TSB 14-0113 that was replaced by TSB 14-0196 that was replaced by TSB 15-0082.
Thanks Brian. I have had this issue on my 2013 (very early production) Taurus 3.5 normally aspirated since day 1. Now I know what I can do to resolve it. I'm assuming this latest version of the valve cover came far after the one I have so it's likely to fix it. My intake snorkel and air filter look just like the one in the Explorer you are working on.
I am not convince of this, I change my valve cover two weeks ago and still have the problem. The old cover did not have any cracks or leaks. so after I see this video I place an on order for a new valve cover, now the new valve cover it didn’t come with the pcv valve so I use the old one, but sadly it didn’t solve my problem. I highly recommend to change the pcv valve before you buy the valve cover and go from there that’s my next project.
Hello I have been following your videos for a while now.: I can’t thank you enough for your time an expertise!! I know this is an older post but I hope you will some how read this an be able to respond.. I changed the spark plugs on my 2012 explorer and went to put everything back together I was about to install the air intake housing and seen oil everywhere.. So I cleaned it out changed the air filter and the pcv valve.. and put everything back together drove it for about 900 miles an got a P0430 (engine light came on) And before I did the spark plug change had the cylinder 5 misfire the dealer change the coil and plug.. A lil while later got a cylinder misfire 3 that’s when I decided to change plugs.. So I’m guessing all this oil going through the system like that was the culprit the whole time!!?? It just turned 100 thou. And I’m guessing the cat could possibly be destroyed.. I did find the TSB on this and that said to change the Rh valve cover.. So my question is do I change the one you recommend or the one the TSB says.. Any help would be greatly appreciated.. Thank you again for the service you provide for all us DIYER’S..
Hi, great video. I saw another video where you recommend for an F150 using oil 5w30 instead of the 5w20 indicated in the cap. What oil do you recommend for a 2016 Explorer the cap says 5w20 it has 30k miles?
He does recommend 5w30 for these engines. My roomate has a 2010 CX9 with the 3.7 that burns oil badly,switched to 5w30 per Brian's,recommendation and the burning had slowed, stopped.
I am working on a 2010 Flex 3.5l Ecoboost. I see the same issue. Wondering if the aluminum covers have been updated too? I have also seen your video on oil separators. Was going to install that, but should I replace the valve cover too?
I replaced the valve cover 2 months ago on my 2011 Explorer following your video and so far no more oil in the air filter. Worked like a charm. Also I noticed a lot less burning smell under harder acceleration now. Thank you! Do you have a video for the gear shifter problem? The vehicle definitely goes into park but the "P" doesn't light up. I have to lightly tap the button for the "P" to light up on the shifter. Any recommendations? I'm out of warranty.
Hi there I have a Lincoln MKT 2010 and found that I had no power, found that the drivers side turbo and exhaust were full of oil, I replaced the turbo all cats and all o2 sensors but issue still persists. I am wondering if you could suggest other avenues to the is?
Don't these manufacturers learn anything from one another?? My 2007 GMC 5.3 AFM had an oil consumption issue that also required an updated valve cover. The dead give away for anyone interested in buying a used one on the TSB list was a lit up CEL pointing to an O2 sensor...I don't remember all the details but this is so familiar.
Look how much money they make on replacement parts,after they sell these cars and trucks to the public. They learn aright. how to make even more money ! Just think how much they make from oil and transmission changes at the dealer due to the fact they have removed ways to check and add fluids on more and more models.
Is that air inlet valvle also called PCV Valve ? On my ford flex I have replaced the PCV valve which is located on the lower intake valve cover. Are those two valves the same ? As they both look identical
This indeed became a problem on my 2011 explorer... As much as I cleaned the oil in the snorkel, it kept going into the intake. I replaced spark plugs and coils today and it is full of oil. Just got the new cover, let's see how it goes.
@@JoshuaWhitesinger You're very welcome! and the process it's pretty easy to do, you might be a bit intimidated at first, just make sure you don't drop any dirt inside the engine when you open the cover.
warranty pays only an hour so customer pay you would expect around 2 hours no more... Thats what i would charge if you walked into my dealer... so JUST for LABOR you're looking around $250 plus the valve cover $57 plus tax so your looking around 320-330 ish
no?? we charge 125 an hour so thats 2 hours labor plus the parts and than tax..... i get what you mean.... not really sure how that works out to be honest... i just fix cars!! :D company makes a dollar i make a dime :/
This should be a recall item, Ford is really starting to piss me off, this is ridiculous to ask the owners to pay for this! Great video as always Brian, thanks for making.
I agree...As a matter of fact, my 12 Fusion lit up an Evap related CEL that was diagnosed as a broken/defective fuel filler door (Plastic crap) which of course the dealership said I broke. Now that causes an Evap leak and should be covered under the emissions warranty... Nope, it's a user item and cost me $100.
The entire engine should be recalled! What kinda dip shi* engineer builds a water pump into the inside of the timing cover?!? If any of you don't know your engine will be trash by the time you know the water pump failed! If you have the duratec don't take a chance,have that water pump swapped and everything around it! Ruin what i hear it likes to happen before 100k, bought my edge at 126k and had it done the same week..had i known i would have passed! Pos has one prob after another..hence why I'm here!
The Engineers are genius. They tricked us into buying a made in China POS that basically needs thrown away after half a dozen yrs, making you go buy a new one
I agree, this should be a Ford recall! 😡
I just replaced the valve cover on my wife's 2012 Explorer. This video was very useful and helped a lot. Great detail. It saved me $400, thanks.
What's the part number ? I'm having the same problem.
I do all my own work, but I'd totally let FordTechMakuloco work on my vehicles. Superb job as always sir, love the fine attention to detail.
Thanks to this video I was able to work on my wife explorer. Listen to the video carefully, before you screw in the cover. BE SURE NO LINE IS
CAUGHT UNDER IT. I pinched the alternator cable to the battery, and sparks were flying, smoke and burning rubber smell. I got to look my wife in the eye and tell her about a little incident. I tought I fried all the electronics. Anyway a friend of mine help me to fix the cable a day later.
At the end my wife was happy. I also replaced the spark plugs and saved about $700. Great video
I bought the rocker cover and installed it while changing the spark plugs and PCV valve… Ours use to puddle in the area between the throttle body and
the air filter… Since changing the parts, drove round trip from Anaheim and Monterey and back… after another trip over Thanksgiving too. I finally peeked into the hose that usually was wet! It was dry as a bone and the car ran great and no burnt oil smell out of the exhaust with the 3.5 six Edge Limited 2011… Glad I finally did the job…. Well worth the effort at 88000 miles! Thanks for the heads up on the updated rocker cover!
thanks for putting this video together.... we opened up the airbox tonight and saw oil on the air filter.. and looked up on google and found this video.. certainly made me feel a lot better knowing there's a fix... we're going to change out the valve cover this upcoming weekend..
Did this a couple of days ago, after watching this video a couple of times I could basically do this job very straight forward, took me a little over 1 hour, thanks!!!
From reading all the comments, it's best to buy the last model before they go to the new design. Look like it take 4 years to figure out all the possible problems, then they start all over again with the new model. I am just thinking outside the box.
Thank you for this video. I was able to get all the parts necessary and completed this repair today on my 2011 Edge. Mine was actually leaking oil out where the intake tube connects to the throttle body and had collected in the valley below there. I appreciate your video which made this job much easier!
You found the red tang that went flying when blowing the dirt off the valve cover lol.Great info as always!
Yup you have to be careful pulling them off for sure.
Great video, as usual. Would have liked to see the old cover to compare it with the new "baffled" cover (for curiosities sake). Also might be a good idea to clean the throttle valve since it got a lot of oil on it and could be coated with "baked on" deposits and a good cleaning could help with good idle quality.
Yeah I forgot to mention that I performed a throttle body cleaning and MAF cleaning as part of this repair to be extra cautious.
FordTechMakuloco .. replacing the cover fixes the oil leaking
@@FordTechMakuloco I agree. I'm almost positive this is what just rendered my car unsuable. I replaced the Rear one (PITA let me tell you!)
Definitely gonna tackle the front now.
@@FordTechMakuloco ok so this is very strange i must say. I have a 07 Expedition and the same thing.
Mustve been 1/3 QT. That came out.
I took off whole intake and used simple green and dawn soap warm water to flush out as much as i could. But still feels asif i sprayed it with silicone spray.
So strange....
Awesome sauce as usual!!! Ive learned so much about fords from your channel
Cool!
I thank you so much for your videos, your intake manifold one taught me that i can do it and fixed my truck! I even cleared all codes and the ecm to clear out the fuel trims.
I have the same issue on my 2013 Explorer. Not nearly as bad though. I pulled the breather tube and installed a transparent fuel filter between the valve cover and the main intake tube with 3/8" tubing. I'm catching roughly 1 tablespoon of oil per oil change (5k miles). and I can keep an eye on it. No oil is going into the intake now.
I may have one of the newer design valve covers already, seeing as it's a very little amount of oil.
Does this hinder the air flow? Do you have information on this ? i would like to try this as well.
Thanks for the video. I have a 2011 Explorer with what appears to be a bad VCT Solenoid. I have looked everywhere for information, pics, videos, etc showing the VCT's and how to change them. I can't find ANYTHING. This is first video I have found that at least shows them, and how they are mounted in the engine. I know that was not what the video was about, but it helped me anyways.... Unfortunately, the one I suspect is bad is on the other bank (closest to firewall). Hopefully it won't be too much of a bear to get that valve cover off. You made front bank look easy!!!
I just did this swap to the new part number on my 2013 3.5l Edge.
With both valve covers off, I couldn't tell the difference from this revised part number to the factory original in appearance inside. While I observed a little minor oil on the throttle body, upper intake tube and tube running from valve cover to intake, but not nearly enough to pool up like in the vehicle in this video. In my case i just saw signs of light sprinkles.
The bolt torque sequence link you included is not working.
Hmm. I wonder if this may coincide with the heap of misfire issues I am seeing on this motor in our fleet
The surfaces on that engine look amazingly clean.
I am going to be doing this repair for my friend's Edge. I did a tune up last time and her intake and plugs were all so oily. I will be doing a PCV valve and I will check the intake again.
I want to thank you for an awesome video! You're very thorough and concise. Looking forward to future videos. THANK YOU!
I did a video on this problem last year-2011 explorer- ford never mentioned cover.
This oil problem seems to be quite common on the Ford engines. I have a 2012 Edge 2.0L Ecoboost that seems to have the same issue. Is there a new valve cover for it as well? I have seen other videos where an oil catch can is installed between the PCV and fresh air intake to catch the blow by oil. Is that something you've done before or even recommend? I really like to see you do a video fixing the oil issue on the 2.0 L EB engine. Get video and explanation of the process.
I'm slightly confused, I need to do this on a 2011 Edge. The guy at the Ford dealer said BR3Z-6582-G was the " Front" valve cover, but the link in your description says -R, not -G. I really don't wanna order the wrong one, so if you could clear that up for me, that'd be cool.
I just checked the Ford parts catalog my number is right. I have access to the same online catalog the dealers do.
FordTechMakuloco that's what I was thinking cause R is the left valve cover, so if you turned the engine straight like a V8 would be, left would be drivers side. I didn't believe that dude at the dealer, I just asked him that after I picked up the intake gasket since I was doing spark plugs on this 11 Edge the other day. Your video was a big help with that too, wasn't as hard as it looks. Thanks a lot man.
I love your attention to detail! Thanks!
Thanks I want to make it as easy as possible for even a first timer to make these repairs.
That hose you took off the intake, you kept calling it the fresh air inlet. What is the part number I need it and I can't find one anywhere, not even ford knows! Thanks
did you ever find out what its called
I have a 12 edge. Should I change valve cover even if i dont experience this problem? Will I eventually have this issue? Or how do I know if the cover was already changed? My car has 106k miles on it and I'm not the original owner, but it has been dealer serviced (I see a lot of new OEM parts on the car).. Thanks for the video, awesome work.
Unfortunately the part number for the cover is printed on the baffle on the underside of the cover. If you don't have this pooling or a trail heading to the throttle body I would not be worried about it.
I put an oil catch can under my hood for my 2014 Mustang V6 3.7L. I catch oil and I love the catch can. For the first 13k miles, the car didn't have an oil catch can.
2022 after getting a hold of ford and their pricing I’m thinking of dropping a catch can in the explorer.
What is the actual name of the fresh air inlet nipple at 23.19 ? Is it the same thing with PCV valve? The actual PCV valve is far back near the firewall. Thanks
great question, i asked this as well
I would have liked to see a side by side comparison of the old and new valve covers.
I was going to do that but I looked and there isn't much to see they look almost the same it is the baffling on the inside that has change which is all molded into the valve cover itself and hidden by the shield.
Michael Stoliker I have a couple of photos.....let me know if you're still interested in seeing a side by side.
FordTechMakuloco is there a way to post them here?
FordTechMakuloco I was wondering because other than part number, I could tell any difference between the 2, looking inside each valve cover.
I just did mine and side by side no difference i even called ford to make sure they sold me the updated cover and they did
I have a 2011 Ford Taurus I bought used a few months back. It's a fast car, amazing daily driver and lots of fun but I will say I'm kinda disappointed in Ford. There are a few problems with it that I would have expected be fixed with a recall.. I'll definitely take my time to see what issues people are running into before purchasing a Ford vehicle again.
GM has had this problem to and had to come out with a updated valve cover.
CamperMike my 2002 s10 2.2 does it a bit too
The fix on my 2013 Impala with the 3.6L motor was to slightly increase the orifice openings on the PCV valve. That completely solved this same issue. This issue is due to a poorly designed PCV system that doesn't pull enough vacuum to keep a positive flow through the system.
FordTechMakuloco I noticed you broke one of the red tabs for the coil. I did the same thing on my car when doing the plugs, I saw at the end of the video you had a new one installed. Where can I find new locking red tabs?
As of now you must buy the entire connector pigtail from Ford. Lucking I keep old harnesses I replace so I have spares.
When did ford start putting in the new updated vavle covers? I just got a 2019 Taurus should i be worried about this issue?
dude me too, wondering if the issue was fixed after 2014 models. my 2019 Taurus goig strong
are you planning on doing another tour to help folks out
The last one was a success for sure no problems helped allot of people I did a small one in 2016 locally and across a few states but that's about it. No plans for a full blown tour right now.
Hello! Thank you for another good and informative video! Respect your subscriber from Russia.
+alex badalov Thanks glad to have you here!
The Permatex "ULTRA" black, grey, copper are ALL O2 safe.
Must say ULTRA.
Plus it's a good product.
Hmmm, no doubt that's a problem. The vent side of the PCV system should be oil free. Nice inexpensive fix though, but I wonder if a new line with a check valve in it would also work?
Yes, it works. I installed a transparent fuel filter with 3/8" hose in place of the breather tube and it's catching all of the oil. Just change out the fuel filter at every oil change. $5 or so.
Creative solution! Good job!
Mahmood Sayed That would make a great video if you want to make one.
So to be clear, 2015 explorer comes with the undated valve cover from the factory?
thanks for the great video. plan on fixing mine this weekend. this was brought to my attention during my last oil change. cant help but wonder if mayby this is some kind of issue . mayby a vacuum pressure issue...didn't have this problem until later. currently at about 80000 miles....always checked my air filter at oil changes and it was always clean. thanks again
Once again this makes me question the level of testing before putting into production. How can this not have happened then to be corrected?
At times I believe there are built in issues for return repairs. Hyundai V6 with leaking front valve cover at the timing cover t-joint edge, that leaks down onto the alternator to fail but the same design on the back cover doesn't leak.
Exactly.
I have 37 years in this field and I would say it started noticeably in the 2000s on all makes.
I have a 2011 ford Taurus that is showing this very issue. Problem is, the valve cover on my car has only one VCT port not two like the one shown. Is there an updated valve cover for this model of engine? Can I pull the cover and clean the vent plate channels to prevent the oil from venting up the tube? A standard PCV valve fits in the same hole as the fresh air nipple, would replacing that with a PCV and using a standard rubber hose back to the air intake prevent the oil? I have also inspected the PCV valve on the rear valve cover with no change in the situation.
Does the cover have a part no.?
Why is there oil in my 2005 Ford Explorer intake manifold with the 4.0L V6?
Re removing the old Permatex black -- sure a blade works and Scotchbright. If you get a chance try some pure cyclohexane on a small cloth. It cleans off (dissolves) silicon rubber very well. Also good for removing glue from bathtub stickers and side window stick-on frost shields that used to be used up north back in the day. Very flammable so no smoking or open flames.
I have a 2012 ford edge 3.5 I noticed oil was filled in the crash air lined leading to the intake tube prior to the throttle body and you could see oil pooling in the tb. Is this the problem the new cover fixes? It just seemed like a very excessive amount of oil being brought into the intake.. I didn't know if something worse was going on.. I replaced my pcv but that's on bank 1 and the bank 2 fresh air line is were the oil was getting into the intake.
does 2015 explore still have same problem or they comes now with new covers? ?? so u don't have to change it . meant the issue only on 2012 and older???
2011-2013 models only.
Do you have any idea why my 05 f150 4x4 jerks in four wheel drive w/all wheels on snow? feels like back and forward jerking,speeds up when I go faster,gets worst! please make a video on this. thanks,love your teachings!
I've got an 06 150 when I start it and park it on a slight incline and start it up again it will smoke just a little and it's done it since it was new is this the same thing that's going on like what was on the explorer.
most likely the oil puddles around the valve stem seal on downhill side and soaking through overnight. Probably not worth changing because under normal flat driving it's not worn enough to let oil through. Just when it sits and soaks.
Curious if you have found any issues with the 2014 models I found oil coming down the front of the engine and collecting around the oil filter and front of the oil pan area only 28,000 miles...
Brian, what do you think about using 5w30 in this engine instead of 5w20?
yes
Would a 2016 Taurus with the 3.5 already have this new valve cover?
Yes
I appreciate you taking time to answer my question. Although there is no such thing as a perfect automobile I love my Fords. 19 years now. Thanks for all of your videos.
Would a 2013 taurus SHO with the 3.5l twin turbo have this need?
no but there is an updated valve cover and vent oil separator for the rh cover if excessive oil consumption is noted.
Apparently, the 2011-2014 Mustang 3.7 V6 is different? Also, most of your videos are truck and SUV. Any chance you will do some Mustang videos? I used your 6r80 fluid change video for my Mustang. Thanks.
Yes, YES. 4.6 modular V8 vids please. 2001 Mustang GT.
Is there a certain mileage range you see this problem on the edge.
It can happen anytime as it was a design flaw from the beginning.
Nice work..Would recommend to change the PCV valve as well..
So I take it this has been addressed in the 2014's and newer?
+Anthony Lopez yes
I have a 2013 taurus sho, the valve cover had that problems?
Excellent demonstration.
Is there a production date cutoff for this condition? My dad has a 2014 Taurus with the 3.5.
This is only through 2013 models made before 3/31/2012
On reassembly. Why not install the coils first, along with the oil fill cap and oil dip stick. This would further prevent debris from falling into the spark plug holes.
It is best to no disturb the gasket and sealant so I would say at least do the first step and snug down the bolts before touching any of those items. At this point your engine should be ultra clean around these holes and debris should not be a problem just tools.
Good point, well taken.
I have a 2012 Ford Taurus with a 3.5L. I'm not having this trouble. Should I be on the outlook for it?
I got a 2012 Ford Fusion 6 cylinders with the same problem..oil all over air filter and inside the intake..do you think changing valve cover will fix the problem??
Is there a fix on 2000-2003 Taurus OHV 3.0 oil getting into the intake?
Oil coming into the intake due to the pcv system is totally normal every intake I have pulled looks the same way.
would this be valid in a 2010 ford taurus 3.5 turbo, mine is blowing the oil at tailpipes burns oil
Yours sound like a blow turbo shaft seal.
I have a 2015 Explorer does the valve cover have the same issues?
It already has the updated part.
FordTechMakuloco. I also have a 2015 mustang 3.7. Does it have a dual water pump? The schematics show it has both internal and external. I'm confused😳
This is going a little of the topic Bryan but, the new 2018 Ford F-150 will have a 3.0 V6 power stroke diesel option. Any chance you will be trading in that Ram 1500 for a Ford F-150? They probably saw your video on why you bought the Ram instead of a F-150 lol.
It’s the valve core listed in amazon OEM from amazon.? It’s that the right side cover.? On a 2012 Ford Edge limited 3.5L
Oem left hand
FordTechMakuloco thanks you I really enjoyed your videos. Very informative and professionally
How did you clean the oil out of the intake tube?
Brake cleaner and compressed air
won't brake clean damage the rubber tube?
+Delmer Larson nope you will find under hood automotive plastic and rubber components are very durable and made for these kinds of chemicals.
Awesome. Ty. Your videos are very helpful. Thanks for what you do.
I've had this issue on my 2009 ford taurus just changed the PCV valve , it was soaked with oil, I found oil in my intake, and around intake gasket as well as the throttle body.
So hopefully that fixes it for a moment
No oil on the air in from the breather box, but air out of the pcv was covered
good stuff. 3.7 in Mustang . Any issues. Mine was an early one and it had a valve-train recall regarding oil scavaging.
My valve cover got replaced but oil is still accumulating in my engine. As in the dealer replaced it right before my 60K miles 5 year warranty ended. My filter is filled with oil lol...
do you think my 2010 MKZ will experience this? I haven't seen it... yet.
No only second gen 2011-2013 models.
Phew... tanks!
Well another Fubar from ford. I own a 1994 f 150 with the 300 inline /4.9 200.000 + miles and never any issues. this is good for the Tech but crap for the owner ! Another case of the new ford mentality, you buy it and pay and pay for mistakes they knew about or heaven forbid created . No new ford for me this was what Five years old. Thank you for sharing. Sorry for the rant.
Your "rant" makes perfect sense to me.
Bobby Tectalabyss the reality is all cars have problems whether it's new or old. it's unavoidable.
There is a big difference,between a part wearing out normally and a part that's made to fail or parts that are not tested to see when and how they fail. And also just how much money do you think Ford and company's like them make off of replacement parts to fix their mistakes which I believe they do on purpose,IMHO. I get sick of working on cars and trucks that anyone should see is half A$$ed or made to fail after the warranty expires. If I did my job the way these company's build cars, I wouldn't a job ! Of course a lot of people change to the new model before the thing starts to fall to pieces. Even Subaru has gotten slack with what had became a bullet proof design. Now the drive by wire is a nightmare !
Is there an official Ford TSB number I can refer to when discussing this with the dealer?
For the 3.5L Ecoboost: For 2010-2014 Flex, Taurus, MKS, MKT and 2013-2014 Explorer: 3.5 GTDI excessive Oil Consumption and/or smoke from the exhaust at idle during normal engine operating temperature - aluminum valve cover: TSB 14-0113 that was replaced by TSB 14-0196 that was replaced by TSB 15-0082.
Does this job also replace the PCV valve? Is that something you'd recommend? Thanks.
Thanks Brian. I have had this issue on my 2013 (very early production) Taurus 3.5 normally aspirated since day 1. Now I know what I can do to resolve it. I'm assuming this latest version of the valve cover came far after the one I have so it's likely to fix it. My intake snorkel and air filter look just like the one in the Explorer you are working on.
Just reread your title of the video. Looks like it applies to 2011-2013 3.5 Normally aspirated.
I am not convince of this, I change my valve cover two weeks ago and still have the problem. The old cover did not have any cracks or leaks. so after I see this video I place an on order for a new valve cover, now the new valve cover it didn’t come with the pcv valve so I use the old one, but sadly it didn’t solve my problem. I highly recommend to change the pcv valve before you buy the valve cover and go from there that’s my next project.
great video i have a 2012 edge so i will be checking for this!!
OMG you are so good.
Nicely shown and explained.
👍
Hello I have been following your videos for a while now.: I can’t thank you enough for your time an expertise!! I know this is an older post but I hope you will some how read this an be able to respond.. I changed the spark plugs on my 2012 explorer and went to put everything back together I was about to install the air intake housing and seen oil everywhere.. So I cleaned it out changed the air filter and the pcv valve.. and put everything back together drove it for about 900 miles an got a P0430 (engine light came on) And before I did the spark plug change had the cylinder 5 misfire the dealer change the coil and plug.. A lil while later got a cylinder misfire 3 that’s when I decided to change plugs.. So I’m guessing all this oil going through the system like that was the culprit the whole time!!?? It just turned 100 thou. And I’m guessing the cat could possibly be destroyed.. I did find the TSB on this and that said to change the Rh valve cover.. So my question is do I change the one you recommend or the one the TSB says.. Any help would be greatly appreciated.. Thank you again for the service you provide for all us DIYER’S..
I have 2000 F150 4.6.. I just removed my intake and the is oil in the bottom.
Could you help!
I have the same issue on my ford 2011 explorer , I noticed the vvt selenoid are leaking oil from the outside as well
I am the same symptom.
What happens if I leave it alone?
Nothing much just some maf contamination, excessive oil burning and potentially soaked restricted air filter.
will this be covered by ford under warranty? i have a 2013 explorer.
If the concern presents itself yes
Hi, great video. I saw another video where you recommend for an F150 using oil 5w30 instead of the 5w20 indicated in the cap. What oil do you recommend for a 2016 Explorer the cap says 5w20 it has 30k miles?
He does recommend 5w30 for these engines. My roomate has a 2010 CX9 with the 3.7 that burns oil badly,switched to 5w30 per Brian's,recommendation and the burning had slowed, stopped.
Have you even seen this issue to cause the burning oil smell?
I have this issue with my '12. Is part number BR3Z-6582-R the latest revision?
Cheers from Los Angeles!!
I am working on a 2010 Flex 3.5l Ecoboost. I see the same issue. Wondering if the aluminum covers have been updated too? I have also seen your video on oil separators. Was going to install that, but should I replace the valve cover too?
How and what can I use to clean the excess oil from inside the intake tubes?
I assume this doesn't apply to the SHO?
Correct
I replaced the valve cover 2 months ago on my 2011 Explorer following your video and so far no more oil in the air filter. Worked like a charm. Also I noticed a lot less burning smell under harder acceleration now. Thank you!
Do you have a video for the gear shifter problem? The vehicle definitely goes into park but the "P" doesn't light up. I have to lightly tap the button for the "P" to light up on the shifter. Any recommendations? I'm out of warranty.
Hi there I have a Lincoln MKT 2010 and found that I had no power, found that the drivers side turbo and exhaust were full of oil, I replaced the turbo all cats and all o2 sensors but issue still persists. I am wondering if you could suggest other avenues to the is?
Is this a universal problem or just case by case?
Only certain years you can also get this concern on any vehicle if the pcv valve on the other bank plugs up.
Don't these manufacturers learn anything from one another?? My 2007 GMC 5.3 AFM had an oil consumption issue that also required an updated valve cover. The dead give away for anyone interested in buying a used one on the TSB list was a lit up CEL pointing to an O2 sensor...I don't remember all the details but this is so familiar.
Look how much money they make on replacement parts,after they sell these cars and trucks to the public. They learn aright. how to make even more money ! Just think how much they make from oil and transmission changes at the dealer due to the fact they have removed ways to check and add fluids on more and more models.
They don't care about that it is all about the money 💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵
also how much would the dealer charge for this service? anyone know?
Will this issue cause a recall?
No it is not a safety issue.
So basically since it's a design flaw, it's only covered under warranty or a TSB?
Bumper to bumper and Powertrain.
Is that air inlet valvle also called PCV Valve ? On my ford flex I have replaced the PCV valve which is located on the lower intake valve cover. Are those two valves the same ? As they both look identical
The front valve cover is an air inlet and the rear valve cover is the pcv valve.
How much should I pay a shop for this valve cover replacement job? How many hours?
This indeed became a problem on my 2011 explorer... As much as I cleaned the oil in the snorkel, it kept going into the intake. I replaced spark plugs and coils today and it is full of oil. Just got the new cover, let's see how it goes.
So did it work?
@@JoshuaWhitesinger 100%! No more nasty oil
@@daviddipasquale586 Nice!! Thanks for the update!! 🤙
@@JoshuaWhitesinger You're very welcome! and the process it's pretty easy to do, you might be a bit intimidated at first, just make sure you don't drop any dirt inside the engine when you open the cover.
@@daviddipasquale586 alrighty. Will do. ,,👍
How much would I expect a dealer to charge for this?
I would say $300 easy.
warranty pays only an hour so customer pay you would expect around 2 hours no more... Thats what i would charge if you walked into my dealer... so JUST for LABOR you're looking around $250 plus the valve cover $57 plus tax so your looking around 320-330 ish
Gatorsrok Are you charging tax on labor as well? I was under the impression you couldn't charge tax on labor.
no?? we charge 125 an hour so thats 2 hours labor plus the parts and than tax..... i get what you mean.... not really sure how that works out to be honest... i just fix cars!! :D company makes a dollar i make a dime :/