@@TeamPandory You know speaking of thermal paste...I wonder if we can use thermal tape instead of paste for the CPU, you know have it sandwiched between the chip and heatsink. Have you tried something like that? I might try this when I get a chance.
@@darthslackus499 I haven't, but in the past thermal pads were not as good as paste in regards to heat transfer. There was a company that had a special design that didn't ever need to be switched out though. I can't for the love of me remember the name though.
Sometimes I wonder if ALL the mini PC and laptop manufacturers ever seriously test their computer designs. The number one reason to avoid mini PCs and laptops is the BS that comes with not the form factor, but the bad design which hurts performance and maintenance. Not saying there aren't exceptions. Good video, I am glad you found a solution.
@@TrusteftTech again it depends on system usage. If vsync had been on, and I wasn't going for speeds, then we wouldn't have seen any slowdown unless going to the handful of games that really needed to push the system. But yeah, laptops have always been wonky - I didn't enjoy either of the ones I had even with a geforce card. It's probably an inherited problem with shrinking down all the components into a small space. Similar to mini pcs.
@@TeamPandory There are solutions IMO. Make them thicker and stop cheaping out on the copper. I don't agree it is anything but stop gap solution to limit the performance of the pc to not over heat. Saying this as someone who suffered for a long time with overheating laptops. Some of these computers have ridiculously bad cooling solution. Yes I am very angry with them. (not you). It's like buying a car which you can't go over X amount of speed or highest gears or else it will over heat and slow down. It's absurd. Absurd as a solution, absurd as an example. WTF was I thinking?
How about replace default fan for some better? I think that there is one 4 pin fan... so maybe some "pro" fan can help a lot. Also maybe some better thermal paste...
@@MrBrudracz it won't make a difference. The fan is on the other side of the case and that deals with the CPU. It doesn't blow air anywhere near the memory which is where the problem lies.
@@MrBrudracz The K6 has a higher-than-spec TDP at default balanced mode anyways, so I'd choose either balanced or quiet settings in the BIOS. I'm sure using the v-sync or limiting frames would quieten down your system, but if you want some hardware style upgrades, check our other video regarding mini pc upgrades: th-cam.com/video/gPwotg5HUag/w-d-xo.html
@@user-yv2cz8oj1k Considering there are plenty of video reviews stating that some of these don't thermal throttle, that's a tough call. As we demonstrated in the "EASY WAY", having vsync set to on / 60fps limit pretty much eliminates the thermal throttle and keeps things cool. It really depends on what the mini pc is being used for, and what settings are used.
Interesting. Lots of these have the soldered on memory which would avoid it overheating right? Then I guess the throttling would have to be CPU or NVME/SSD?
We usually find the memory that's soldered onto the motherboard on the budget tier mini pcs, and those usually have other problems regarding slow GPUs. As to if they overheat or not, it really depends on the layout and design of the computer.
Thanks for the great content ! Do you think doing this for Reaton alloy 9 has an advantage too ? ( The thermal pads on heatsink and on top of memory chip )
@@kimandy4946 You're welcome! 🤗 The Reatan Alloy 9 has this heatsink to begin with - it also has a fan pointing at the memory, so from the bat it's much better regarding cooling.
@@TeamPandory Oh thanks for the info ! :) I ve been doing some research as I am buying a MiniPc soon, and I have heard Reaton alloy 9 has one of the best cooling solutions. Just wanted to know if there were methods to cool it even more to make it even more silent ! hahaha. Cheers ! :)
@@kimandy4946 Oh, um. Maybe lowering tdp, tbh it's not a bad pc at all. Best thing you could do to that is perhaps use wired lan rather than WiFi if you're having issues with it. Just don't bother changing cpu thermal paste - they use liquid metal
Ehhh. Good job but too much of a hassle. The manufacturer should take more time in testing all component temps and for extended periods of time to make sure they sell something that runs smoothly.
@@TeamPandory yes. I should have specified that I'm talking about the better solution which IMO is something that the manufacturers should consider and implement from the get go.
This is where Minisforum shines. Their thermal management is best in the business.
@@davefroman4700 not had a minisforum minipc in to test, but we've had some good reports from their users 😁
Nice video! Thank you for sharing this method on our product. Your creative thoughts on GEEKOM products are truly appreciated and help us improve.
omg they comented
Sometimes it is better to sacrifice size for function. Actively cooling the ram/ssd area with a fan would be a much better option.
It's nice to see you were not discouraged by each proceeding attempts. I might have changed tactics after the 3rd strips didn't work.
@@darthslackus499 it wasn't actually that difficult to change up the memory configuration. Compared to cleaning up thermal paste, this is easy peasy 😉
@@TeamPandory You know speaking of thermal paste...I wonder if we can use thermal tape instead of paste for the CPU, you know have it sandwiched between the chip and heatsink. Have you tried something like that? I might try this when I get a chance.
@@darthslackus499 I haven't, but in the past thermal pads were not as good as paste in regards to heat transfer.
There was a company that had a special design that didn't ever need to be switched out though. I can't for the love of me remember the name though.
Sometimes I wonder if ALL the mini PC and laptop manufacturers ever seriously test their computer designs.
The number one reason to avoid mini PCs and laptops is the BS that comes with not the form factor, but the bad design which hurts performance and maintenance.
Not saying there aren't exceptions.
Good video, I am glad you found a solution.
@@TrusteftTech again it depends on system usage. If vsync had been on, and I wasn't going for speeds, then we wouldn't have seen any slowdown unless going to the handful of games that really needed to push the system.
But yeah, laptops have always been wonky - I didn't enjoy either of the ones I had even with a geforce card. It's probably an inherited problem with shrinking down all the components into a small space. Similar to mini pcs.
@@TeamPandory There are solutions IMO. Make them thicker and stop cheaping out on the copper. I don't agree it is anything but stop gap solution to limit the performance of the pc to not over heat. Saying this as someone who suffered for a long time with overheating laptops. Some of these computers have ridiculously bad cooling solution.
Yes I am very angry with them. (not you).
It's like buying a car which you can't go over X amount of speed or highest gears or else it will over heat and slow down. It's absurd. Absurd as a solution, absurd as an example. WTF was I thinking?
@@TrusteftTech calm down. All is well. Rainbows. Mince pies. Chocolate digestives dunked in a cup of tea.
@@TeamPandory XD bro took it too personal
I think there would be room in the market for swap cases that would allow more space inside if anyone wanted to make them
THIS NEEDS MORE VIEWS
@@supwer22 thanks 👍 Like share and all that jazz 😂
Brilliant! Thanks!
You're welcome! 🤗
How about replace default fan for some better? I think that there is one 4 pin fan... so maybe some "pro" fan can help a lot. Also maybe some better thermal paste...
@@MrBrudracz it won't make a difference. The fan is on the other side of the case and that deals with the CPU. It doesn't blow air anywhere near the memory which is where the problem lies.
@@TeamPandory oh OK, I have K6 with 2 fans, sorry :)
Or don't buy one in the first place, and invest in something that won't thermal throttle.
@@MrBrudracz The K6 has a higher-than-spec TDP at default balanced mode anyways, so I'd choose either balanced or quiet settings in the BIOS. I'm sure using the v-sync or limiting frames would quieten down your system, but if you want some hardware style upgrades, check our other video regarding mini pc upgrades: th-cam.com/video/gPwotg5HUag/w-d-xo.html
@@user-yv2cz8oj1k Considering there are plenty of video reviews stating that some of these don't thermal throttle, that's a tough call.
As we demonstrated in the "EASY WAY", having vsync set to on / 60fps limit pretty much eliminates the thermal throttle and keeps things cool.
It really depends on what the mini pc is being used for, and what settings are used.
I could be seen yelling "turn off ambient occlusion"
@@brainfodder3233 yeah. That's another one that's a bugger. Had to keep things simple for "the easy way" though.
Interesting. Lots of these have the soldered on memory which would avoid it overheating right? Then I guess the throttling would have to be CPU or NVME/SSD?
We usually find the memory that's soldered onto the motherboard on the budget tier mini pcs, and those usually have other problems regarding slow GPUs. As to if they overheat or not, it really depends on the layout and design of the computer.
I'm wondering if a sideways orientation of it will allow heat to escape the vent ( keeping the vent on the lower side free to) more efficiently
Big like to your video! Just a quick question, what software do you use to see your temperatures while gaming? (like at 5:53, in upper right corner)
Hey there, thanks! That's the Performance Overlay in the AMD Adrenaline Driver software. Not additional software.
@@TeamPandory beautiful, thank you!
@adamtoth1425 no problem 👍
Thanks for the great content !
Do you think doing this for Reaton alloy 9 has an advantage too ? ( The thermal pads on heatsink and on top of memory chip )
@@kimandy4946 You're welcome! 🤗
The Reatan Alloy 9 has this heatsink to begin with - it also has a fan pointing at the memory, so from the bat it's much better regarding cooling.
@@TeamPandory Oh thanks for the info ! :) I ve been doing some research as I am buying a MiniPc soon, and I have heard Reaton alloy 9 has one of the best cooling solutions.
Just wanted to know if there were methods to cool it even more to make it even more silent ! hahaha.
Cheers ! :)
@@kimandy4946 Oh, um. Maybe lowering tdp, tbh it's not a bad pc at all. Best thing you could do to that is perhaps use wired lan rather than WiFi if you're having issues with it.
Just don't bother changing cpu thermal paste - they use liquid metal
Will this work on the GMK k8 Plus?
The vsync setting, sure, but the k8 plus has active cooling and AFAIK no issues regarding thermal throttling of the memory.
@TeamPandory I was referring to the thermal cooling of the ram, but if there is none of the problems that's better then :)
Thanks brother
Ehhh. Good job but too much of a hassle. The manufacturer should take more time in testing all component temps and for extended periods of time to make sure they sell something that runs smoothly.
@@commenter6441 did you skip the 'easy way'? You literally only need to tick one box.
@@TeamPandory yes. I should have specified that I'm talking about the better solution which IMO is something that the manufacturers should consider and implement from the get go.
Quite a bit of faffing about for even finding the best solution first time.
We love to faff. 😂