New Tesla Autopark & Vision Park Assist (Hardware 3)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 เม.ย. 2024
- We take a look at Tesla's newest Autopark Interface as well as The Vision Only Park Assist for Hardware 3.0 cars.
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Really great explanation of how the system works, its rules, and limits. Thank you for a great informative video.
I think the coolest thing about using the visual method is the overhead view that it gives of your surroundings....trees, other cars... parking lot lines, etc.
I have a Nov 21 refresh S. After no update for 2 months, I finally got update with auto park today.
The overhead view has been in other cars for a few years.
@@henrylee8510 I hear that many older model S and X were on a different code branch and that had to be updated first. Unlike other OEMs, who would wait until they could release it to everyone all at once, Tesla releases updates to who they can when they can. OEMs would therefore take years to do so sometimes.
However it is frustrating for Tesla owners at the end of the queue.
Interestingly model S and X had the ability to shift into drive or reverse automatically on detecting what it thought you wanted to do. No other cars had that until recently. I think that feature may have been on a different code line and that might have played a part in the delay for some folks depending on the specific code branch they were on.
Tesla, going forward, may decide to simplify and give everyone the same feature sets at the same time going forward. I think they found they had too many code branches and this was slowing down the push out of FSD features to many.
@@nickmcconnell1291 is mine an older model? They started delivering refresh models in June or July of 2021, i got mine a few months later. I wouldn't consider that old but I could be wrong. When I think of older models I think of the pre-refresh ones.
I hear about different HW versions like HW4. Not sure what I have or what version I have
@@henrylee8510 They started shipping HW4 in model S at the beginning of 2023. Your car is not old but may have been on a software level that took awhile for Tesla to get upgraded. I think they are making great efforts to reduce the number of software levels that they have out there.
Just got 12.3.6 last night. Will check this out.
You have one of the best videos actually showing how to do this. Thank you.
❤ I’m so impressed with the V12 updates that we have been receiving. Thank you so much for doing this parking video! I just received the same software on my Model S and I was wondering about the difference between the options.
One thing that I have noticed is that the car has much more difficulty in parking garages with a lot of support pillars… in my trial so far, it doesn’t ever choose a spot if it is between pillars, which we have a lot of in our condo. Speaking of this, do you think that it will ever be able to drive up several floors of underground parking? My only accident in about 45 years of driving was hitting a post in the very constrained underground parking of our building. I really wish it could do maneuver in and out of our parking spot, which is 4 floors underground.😂
Got the update yesterday. Little slow but I found the parking has improved. Nice being able to choose location. Car pulls ahead, and is better able to position itself to back up and park in on one try. Previously the car never pulled forward before trying to park.
OMG! Thank you…have been trying to figure out how to activate the auto park in my Model S with the new update.😂
I think it's a shame the MS and MX don't have an option to extend the visualizations to the center console screen. That would allow you to view the visualizations (FSD and Park Assist) on a larger screen as well as adjust the camera angle. If you're paying for a higher end model, it should include all of the functionality of the lower end models.
Off topic, but I also think you should have greater control over the FSD visualization camera angle including full zoom out, bird's eye view, and ability to lock the camera setting in place instead of timed auto snap-back.
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I could not agree more! Wonder if I submit that as FSD disengagement feedback if they’ll listen 😂
Can’t wait for this update! Hope it’ll all be available in the spring update man, been looking forward to all of this for a while now. The park assist visualizations are really cool, hope the FSD one gets a makeover using a similar design.
Great explanation and demonstration of Autopark and Vision assist features. I appreciate your review!
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i tested this out today for the first time, works ok but takes a little bit of time. It's pretty good but if I compare it to my S580 you can tell they got a little bit of work to do. Mercedes will get into seriously challenging spots but I think that's due to 10 degree rear steering. 12.3.6 is working pretty good also, however, it seems a bit timid a bunch of times I'm testing it. I still stand by 12.3 has been the best version yet. Can't wait for 12.4 as this apparently will be another huge jump and all this V12 data should be compiled by then
Man I think the new Tesla vision auto park is better than my auto park with a USS sensors but now that I got that update I got the new auto part and I love it I purposely pulled up to make it hard for The car to get into a parking spot and the car did it
Thanks!
I am still in my 2014 Model S so I can see what has improved over the last 10 years. Ok: Autopark for perpendicular now allows parking between lines, rather than only between two cars. But that’s the only improvement. In crowded Hong Kong I find autopark between two cars is plenty fast.
Well done and great analysis. Work well on hardware 4 as well.
Yes its been out for HW4 for a couple months
Was hard for me to see, on my cell phone screen, the differences between ulta sound sensors and vision only. Maybe I should project up to a TV for better understanding. I have vision only and I park with vision only, and from my persective it works great.
Sorry was a very sunny day hard to record the IC. Visually, there is no difference except for the USS arcs with measurement readout vs heat map for Vision Only.
2:08 One slight correction: the vision park assist works even on intel atom, they just don’t get the 3D visualization (as shown in the release notes you are showing). Atom gives only top down view with no ability to see all the different angles.
The 3D visualization (being able to move it around) is what Vision Park Assist is. Autopark with Vision Assist on just turns the USS off and uses Vision only which is where you get the top down heat map. Being able to render the 3d space in real-time is the limiting factor for the processor.
@@BlackTesla Vision in this context has to do with the systems perception stack - not the visualization we see - they are completely decoupled and the vision stack handles everything regardless of what is threaded to the MCU/gpu for us to see.
The reason the atom has to use the top down method (with no 3D volumes) is because the volumetric rendering is very GPU intensive, and when moving away from levelset conversion of the volumes, they couldn’t get the intel HD 505 to hold an acceptable frame rate. Ryzen systems have no issue since the Navi gfx1032 is significantly faster.
The FSD computer handles everything under the hood regardless of the visuals, And vision park assist refers to the computer using cameras to perceive and navigate its surroundings using depth and feed-forward planning. You may be correct though on the USS going offline if the toggle is flipped (for newer Ryzen’s) but vision doesn’t seem to use the USS regardless of the wavy noodle rendering (the heat map seems to be preferred or translated when vpa is enabled)
Keep up the great content!
I thought folks said Atom doesn't have HAVE the menu option to enable Vision Park Assist? Does it still render cars/objects/lines, if you don't have FSD but do have HW3, on Atom cars?
or just the USS range lines?
Can you do some parallel parking in some tight spots around the city
Great video bro! Can wait until I get the update. Liked and subscribed!
My model 3 2019 has auto pilot. How do get the autopark update?
Similar experience with my HW3 MX. Have you heard anything about extending the visuals to the touch screen? Or were you just hoping? 🙂
Both 😉
You sound like a TH-camr “Soldier Knows Best “ :)
Ryzen bros, we keep winning
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I wonder if the new model S will come with the same steering and steer by wire?. It will make perfect sense you know. 👍🤷♂️💯
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So if I bought an AMD infotainment screen on eBay and upgraded from the Intel Adam infotainment, could I get the Tesla vision??
You'd need Tesla's specific AMD Ryzen processor and the knowledge on how to install it
Does anyone know if the tap to park feature will be available on legacy Model X or S (pre-2022)? The right scroll wheel on the legacy vehicles has other different features assigned to it.
It should be available for legacy cars as well
wish we could use tesla vision with the USS indications
Questions: 1, are you going to stay with Tesla Vision or standard? Personally, I’ll definitely stay with Tesla Vision once I receive it, especially considering I’m on a 3 and can actually see the visualizations.
2. If you have Tesla Vision enabled, does it affect Summon/Smart Summon in any way, or do those still use the USS?
1) standard until there is more value for vision on S/X
2) No summon has not been updated in this build. Using vision or USS has no bearing on the functionality of summon its still broken lol
Have you looked into the mod to bypass the steering wheel nag while in FSD? I have a 2024 S and thinking of buying it and installing it in my S, thoughts?
Not interested in it. Sometimes, the nag is purposeful and not just on a timer. The mod will make you miss certain instances where it may need help. I'd advise against using it.
@@BlackTesla from my experience it’s like every 30 seconds or so even when I’m paying full attention. It’s not bypassing the interior camera monitor, touching the wheel that often just becomes tiresome but appreciate your thoughts. Love the videos by the way.
@@jvmendoza1972 according to Tesla, update 12.4 will remove the steering wheel nag.
Surprised that it took more than one attempt to park in what was a really big space.
Does Tesla allow you to use the vision based autopark, but keep using the standard uss setting for park assist?
I don't believe so you have to do one or the other
@@BlackTeslaI think auto park has been entirely replaced. The setting you were toggling was only changing the park assist visuals, whereas the display for auto park was unchanged between them, and it seemed to be using the new auto park system for decision making
What about PARALLEL PARKING? I don't know of anyone who has an issue parking like this but parallel parking on a street can be difficult. Having said that, I love your channel since I have a 22 MS with a yoke, too.
It can parallel park effectively as well, however with it hitting curbs on v12 I was too scared to try it out
Thanks. Good explanations. But the only thing I’m interested in is PARALLEL parking. If you can’t quickly and easily put your car in a vertical slot car park then you really shouldn’t be driving. 😁 But for some reason nearly all the vids I can find are not parallel. Weird.
It can parallel park but with the issues I've been seeing with proximity to curbs I don't trust it not to hit a curb 😥
@@BlackTesla yeah I get that concern. As against that…. all the ones I’ve seen so far have not kerbed a wheel. Quite accurate in fact. Half tyre on road half in gutter. Perfect. But yeah…. it would be concerning until it’s a proven system.
I've tried using it like 5 times and only got one success. It's just far too slow to where people around you get annoyed and/or get to close to the car and it just stops. And I've even got it into the perfect spot where it just has to reverse and yet it decides to creep forward and turn the wheel, long pause, flip into reverse, and go 1mph into the spot. there is no scenario where using it is easier, better, or faster than me doing it myself.
That's been the issue for a long time
I have the intel atom on my 21 model 3, and have the new auto park visualization.
Yes the visualization everyone gets. The ability to move the view around and see the 3D space is the Vision Park Assist. Do you have that? Or is it just top down view?
Why isn’t there an option to auto park forward into a parking space instead of backing into one? Sometimes you want the trunk to face the rear for easy grocery drop off.
I suspect because there's no front bumper camera, whereas the rear has a camera to see better than the front
How good is it when parallel parking?
Good just be careful of curbs 🫣
Can the autopark feature do parallel parking?
Yes
I have the amd ryzen model s auto park not available on my screen
If you don't have FSD 12.3.6 you might need to wait for an update on the main branch to get this
@@BlackTesla ok thanks great job on the video!
What happens if a pedestrian just stand there and does not walk onto the crosswalk? Will the Tesla just stop and then move on, or will it wait forever?
It will wait to see what the pedestrian does and move around the pedestrian
Do you have to pay $99/month to get auto parking?
Yes
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Why did they take out the Ultrasonic Sensors? For cost?
Because USS are definitely relevant and *helpful* for parking.
I think this shows that USS aren’t needed. But what they do need is front bumper cameras and a front radar. Both I think are coming, though that’d mean everyone would need to go pay to get them installed for full FSD functionality
@@zachb1706 _Both I think are coming_
What happens with the millions of Tesla owners that did not get these essential sensors and cameras?
@@DerekDavis213 I just said, they’d have to get them installed, just like people below Hardware 3 had to get the new hardware installed.
There’s already room for a Radar and places to install the front bumper cameras.
@@zachb1706 How much will millions of Tesla owners have to pay for the new camera and sensors?
@@DerekDavis213 whatever it comes to? Upgrading to Hardware 3 cost $1000 I believe.
I’ll add won’t be necessary, but you’ll just have reduced functionality
No smart summon?
No sadly summon is still broken
"Autopark , Summon, and smart summon will be temporarily restricted....." this is what is currently listed in my Tesla app. I have HW4 - 24 Model Y Long Range
Do you have the latest update?
@@BlackTesla HI . BTW I have 3/24 2024 Y long range I downloaded it last night. I'll give it a try today. That blurb was taken from my app after the update. 12.3.6 was installed successfully. I've having trouble finding a combination of variables that I feel happy/safe with. Even in chill modes with FSD it seems overally aggressive at times. . I know if I was the car behind my Tesla, I would have certainly made my displeasure known, Then there are other times when an easy entry into a lane setting up for an exit ramp could be made, but, the AI tries to gain a couple of car lengths and again squeeze into a space and try to make an exit. I'm the one paying for the insurance, so I always have that in mind when I "protest" what the AI "thinks" is possible.
@@BlackTeslaHi - I did a bit of testing this evening. Autopark worked with mixed results. The Tesla maneuvered to a parking place and parked itself, but the parking place I selected, Tesla acknowledged, and the spot that the Tesla parked in were distinctly different. That same behavior was repeatable. My testing might also explain why the Tesla makes lane changes the way it does, even when I've selected the mildest of response settings. I'm becoming convinced that what is displayed on the center screen, and what the Tesla can respond to is problematic. The "Y" has a blind spot that I can't address. The side view mirrors don't pivot enough to see that blind spot, and I don't think the cameras can "see and respond to it either. I honestly hope there is a camera issue, and not an AI issue, because there's been more than one lane change that has been executed by the Tesla with a car approaching rapidly, and in pretty close proximity to my car, yet the Tesla made the change anyway. I'm going to recalibrate the camera at my home and let the cameras recalibrate which I believe takes upwards of 100 miles to accomplish. Tesla Vision seems to have problems, and if the recal doesn't resolve the issue, I'm making an appointment with Telsa If Tesla says everything is functioning ok, That's good to know, but I won't subscribe to FSD regardless of the price. Right now my confidence level is pretty low.
Costs!
The crooked steering wheel turn position after finished parking is triggering me
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Kinda useless on the S since we can’t move the image around like you can on the 3. I left my car back on USS and not Tesla vision after using it for a few days.
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Can't understand why such a feature would be needed when there are no parks cars, unless alcohol is a factor.
Buy your parents FSD.
Are you saying when your parents are really old and can't do things for themselves. You would buy them FSD and abandon them. 😂
It's to keep everyone safe. Older people have slower reactions. So this will keep more people safe on the road.
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That’s what he said