Autonomous Electric Tractor - Future of Farming | John Deere
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- John Deere s new autonomous tractor concept is a very compact electric drive unit with integrated attachment. The tractor has a total output of 500kW and can be equipped with either wheels or tracks.
its a good thing nothing ever breaks or plugs up in the field
Oh yeah, NEVER
I'm a automation technician they break down all the time lmaoo
@@jimmypistolas7981 you missed the joke
@@rileycallahan341 totally missed it
@@jimmypistolas7981 but he's right you did
All i see is another software war coming up
Farmers vs John deere
Get your popcorn ready. John Deere headquarters about to become a war zone.
Something I'll never have to worry about. I'll be farming with 4020s until the day I die. There is a reason 20 through 60 series tractors are pulling record auction prices.
@@danw6014 see?! a lot of people just go with this but big companies have it in there heads that they'll have to get new equipment eventually right? those old machines arent going to run forever right? well no, they will, and its getting easier and easier by the day, you can 3d print new lever handles and dash parts (well for sound guard tractors, i guess thats no problem on a 4000 sires) and in recent years CNC machine tools like plasma cutting tables and milling machines are now well within financial reach of most farmers, so making new parts right down to transmission castings and engine blocks are easily remade, so no, they have no reason at all to update, so companies like john deere are practically trying to throw themselves into an inevitable downfall with all this parts and service monopoly there trying, not to mention even the law is on there side with new laws being passed that allows farmers to hack there tractors and use pirate software so they can fix the machines they payed for!
@@leosypher9993 there are plenty of aftermarket suppliers now.
@@electric7487 😂😂
What happens when a seed tube gets clogged, when a sheer pin breaks, when the anhydrous tank need to be switched, when a seed disk needs cleaned, when a nozzle gets clogged, when an opener bearing goes out, when a vacuum hose comes loose, when a hydraulic line starts leaking, when the line filter gets clogged, when residue drags up. This doesnt come close to covering all the things I do while just "sitting in the tractor" and I have yet to see how an autonomous tractor will work without someone sitting at the edge of the field to do these things. Which kinda takes away the point of it all.
I would assume you would get an error message and the tractor would automatically shut down and call for help. A lot like robotic milking machines. Log in on your phone and see if it's an issue that can be fixed remotely. If it's not a simple fix you dispatch a person to go fix the problem.
@@orange3203 If you've ran much modern equipment, you wouldn't be advocating for more sensors. Theres so many that half the time the tractors throw up a code, it's just a sensor that's crapped out or a wire connection to the sensor that's bad. The operator makes the call to override and theres no downtime. As far as the visual diagnosing, such as oil leaks, that would take some pretty clever programming and a million cameras around the implement/machine.
@@JohnDoe-zs6gj I'm not saying that we're just around the corner from this being a reality. Sensor issues on our new equipment make up more than half our down time. Getting reliable people to show up and work 16 hour days is also getting tough so I don't know what to tell you. I'm in favor of this type of R&D work continuing. Maybe with the advent of functional AI we'll get automated equipment that can start making informed decisions. It's a cool concept at the moment and I don't like to shoot down ideas in their infancy. Horse drawn farmers had the same skepticism when steam equipment started entering the fields.
@@orange3203 I agree, I believe it is coming eventually. I just dont agree with the people seeing this and DO think it's right around the corner...theres lots of issues that need to be figured out first. The first planes weren't very useful and were seen as just a novelty by most.
One alternate to this technology that I see possibly coming sooner is a team of small drones vs the one big machine. Less liability and easily scalable to all farm sizes(just by number of drones). Certain jobs will always need the horsepower of a big machine though.
I agree. One thing I hate about modern farming is all of the technology. What happened to sitting in a cab of and 4450 John Deere or a 1566 International looking down the furrow the row marker made? What happened to sitting in a cab and being able to think to yourself without having 500 things beeping at you? I know some of the new technology is good, like the the row sensors on a planter. Without them we wouldn't know if we had a row unit not dumping any seed. There is a lot of great technology for farming but this is taking it to far. I'm a John Deere guy and when I found out that Case IH was making an autonomous tractor a few years ago I thought they were so stupid. But now, I think I would rather have the Case IH version of an autonomous tractor rather than this hybrid thing. But still, it takes the fun out of farming. If a farmer wants to get one of these so he doesnt have to sit in the tractor he doesnt need to be farming. That is my opinion though.
Agco is striving for zero downtime for farmers. This kind of automation is also a key to this type of philosophy. Farmers work too hard and need everything that technology can give them to make their job easier.
Haha you're so funny
This just takes the fun out of farming
Yup trueee
So the farmers can play fecking Farming Simulator while this thing does the work (in the near future cheaper and better than they could).
nothing stopping you from driving another tractor while your crew of robot tractors follows you around
The fun died when it became a business..
@@MrFastFarmer What, since the start of agriculture?
Automation is good but how is this going to transfer 750HP into the ground?
And where is the trailer hauling the 30tonnes of batteries?
It’s called lithium ion batteries
@@floridamansgarage8629 we are nowhere close to battery technology to allow an electric tractor to run even close to a diesel one
750kw for the next 10 hours is 7500kwh or 100 tesla car batteries. You're not going to fit 100 tesla car batteries under that tractor bonnet.
@@Darndiddlyarn and if you did a lot of times the day isn’t done after 10 hrs. Need to be able to fill up and keep going
@@alexmuela92 oh exactly, but around 10 hours is how long I usually get from a tank of diesel, then you spend 30 min fueling up and greasing the implement and out she goes again.
lots of farmers actualy enjoy getting out in the field on a tractor .
Nathan Sparrow yes most aren’t lazy
I agree a lot. One reason because we have auto steer and we would have no need for a full autonomous vehicle
It's designed more or less for the larger farms having your auto tractor run the field allowing you as a farmer to get other tasks done. for instance you can have this follow your combine with a cart for harvest saving you money and time. In the long run. There are endless things you can have this do you can either look at is as taking your job or like I look at it it assists you with your job. The way I see it for small farm application where hiring several operators may not be an option this can take up for that taking that 2 man operation and turning into a one man operation.
Real farmers love the #soil more than tractors, and this concept is so important to preserve it
Yeah, I get that but most people also enjoy driving their car and yet we are on the brink of achieving fully autonomous driving. Big farming companies probably prefer autonomous tractors as they are cheaper to run and far more efficient. SMaller or even mid size farmers probably don't benefit that much from autonomous tractors and If they're having fun driving manually then that's even better.
For some reason I love getting in the cab of a tractor but I also love the new tractor
Imagine eating a peaceful meal with your family after a har day’s work and Otto (auto) here is prepping the ground for tomorrow’s planting, fertilizing a few hundred extra acres, or harvesting wheat until midnight so you can work on other projects around the farm.
Name an advance in technology that people didn’t say would be the downfall of an entire industry.
Farming is some of the hardest work I know and I haven’t lived on a farm since HS. I know the video is for Deere In Europe, but they face the same issues we are: old farmers are retiring, new farmers aren’t filling the gap as well, and corporate farms are the ones with the capital to afford a bad season or two.
I don’t know the cost of these autonomous tractors, but on a combine the cab is the most customizable part of the machine. Take out the driver safety features and creature comforts and you’ll have a more efficient platform.
It could really at least fill in where a human would otherwise require sleep or rest. Like you said, run later on into the night with a remote deactivation switch and monitoring tools A farmer could be working on something else, or step away to use the restroom, or eat while their crops were constantly maintained.
Forget the autonomous aspect for a moment. To electrify a more conventional combine for instance using 500 kW of power or 670 HP is practical. However the battery is not. A 500 kWH battery would appx 20,000 pounds and would only provide one hour of operation. You do the math for how any hours you want to combine for. 10 hours equals 200,000 pounds of battery. Then how to recharge them in a field that is miles from any electrical grid? After just 10 hours we need 5,000 kWH plus massive transformers and dc creation devices. All for one combine. What if we have 10 combines and 2 grain carts to now recharge? Now we need 600,000 kWH of power . To provide that much power over a few hours would exceed the entire capacity of most rural electrical distribution grids. The green washers want to make broad statements, but Diesel engines are a reality for far into the future.
I read through the comments on the robot tractor and and you were one of the few people that seem to understand why electric tractors won't work. We would have to upgrade the rural electric grid to provide 3 phase high amp power to virtually every square mile of farm ground. I would guess that it would cost $trillion dollars to do that. On top of that the grid would only be used at full capacity in the spring and the fall.
I love how electric vehicles/implements are touted as zero emissions. Where do you think all this clean electricity comes from? Mostly coal fired power plants, although they are pretty good at reducing pollution from them. There are still some.
Spot on. It's never "zero" emissions. It's always "zero emissions here today" or maybe "transferred emissions." Digging the lithium out of the ground in a mine to make batteries creates emissions, and I'll bet the battery factories create emissions. What about those factories that reprocess the very toxic contents of the dead batteries? Pulling oil, coal, and iron from the ground creates emissions, as do the factories that process it into plastic and steel to make this "zero emission" vehicle. There is nothing "zero emission" about this. They really should stop using this phrase. It's a lie that has been restated so many times people take it as truth. If you want to tell lies, nobody can stop you. It's your right to say what you want, but I really wish our policy makers would stop using this fallacy to make policy decisions. Wind, solar, hydro, none of it is ever "zero emissions." It's just "deferred" or "localized" or perhaps "reduced" emissions, although I'm not fully convinced of that either.
@@tomrobinson2914 Do they shut down the coal plants and re-start them? That isn't like throwing a switch and the magic happens. I didn't know it would be feasible to do that.
Tom Robinson it makes more pollution getting enough concrete for a single wind turbine than 3 or four of them will ever pay off...
That,s why they need eliminating. Also most the farm fields could benifit from wind and solar and be able tp produce and sell energy making money off two resources. Innovation is coming the steam engine had to die at one point too.
@@jedison2441 I don't disagree, things will always change. However, we are still using steam. All the large base plants , nukes included are just heating water to make steam to produce electricity. To say that steam is gone is not quite accurate.
Case IH did an autonomous tractor years ago. It's in their headquarters on display.
Far more useful to just have the autonomous functions on a normal tractor so it can go full auto or manually controlled when the need arises which will be a lot.
They already have auto steer
Interstellar all over again, I guess this means I'll have view the world from behind my bookshelf.
Now how will the farmer drink without hearing his wife nag?
robotic wife programed to nag
Don't drink so much that she has to nag.
Becarefull what you wish for. Remember Robocop?... anyone???????????
Don’t get your scientific projections from a movie 😂😂
RoboCrop, you mean?
Yet another attempt to eliminate the need for humans. Self destruct sequence activated
@PC Cop You couldn't be more wrong. Diesel manufacturers will be trained on manufacturing robo-tractors. Diesel mechanics will be trained on working on robo-tractors. No job creation here. After the training is done, the result is drivers losing their job to robots.
I mean, they make the food....for people.
if this happen you will only need one farmer to run your whole farm.
Then a lot of farmers will have no work, and I like driving tractors and combines.
Exactly, I think us farmers can agree that we are better off without these robot tractors doing our work
Well, western countries already went from 80% working in agriculture to less than 3%. In western Europe, at least. This will continue.
I don’t know if I would call it the future of farming
I see a lot of comments suggesting this is not a worthwhile replacement to a traditional diesel, and I have to agree, but you've got it all wrong. This isn't so one farmer can sit back and watch a robot farm 50 acres. This is so one farmer can work 200+ acres and still get to bed at a reasonable hour. This is a companion to your regular tractor, not a replacement. You still go out to manage to fields like always, but the headache and overtime aren't necessary anymore
That’s just ruining farmers joy of farming
And with the repair ban the money will be flying left and right and not in the pockets
Nobody said you had to buy one. Not many people could afford one
@@stricker-tc4vr at some point that may be all you can buy.
@@danw6014 you can still buy a horse and a plow cant you. How long ago did they use those
@@stricker-tc4vr I ment new. I'd get along great with horses.
My dad own a far with a lot of John Deere stuff but I think we are never going to get that bc I enjoy in the field working.
With that attitude you're probably not even going to be a farmer in a decade. These are going to drive prices down because manual labor is expensive, and most of the criticism here always happens with new technology. Add to this fact that diesel prices are going to go through the roof due to all the pollution & oil prices going up.
I know nothing about farming, but from a tech pov, i love this! Can see it now, a farmer sat with his family watching tv whilst this thing is out doing his job. Great idea!
Most farmers enjoy actually driving the tractors and doing stuff for themselves plus your not really a farmer if a machine is doing everything for you
That family won’t exist. This will be for giant corporate farms.
Spoken like a true liberal
And how long does the battery last? And how do you charge it when your fields are miles from your farm? And where is the power for these coming from? Coal? Nuclear? Solar? And how much will this cost a farmer? And what happens when you need to get a new battery? How is the old one going to be recycled or disposed of?
that thing looks derp
I wouldn’t trust that in the field
Farmers didnt trust the first tractors over horses either. This is the future no doubt about it.
They will get stuck
@@dixonhill1108 Good luck fixing it. The prices will be astronomical when back in the day you could fix on site with a toolbox. When a frost is forecast for the next day, you need to get your crop in or else you are in big financial trouble. One broken tractor that you have to pay thousands to have a guy drive 4 hours and plug in his laptop could cost more than just the loss of the tractor.
@@b2dmastersnipernope it isn't way different
How long before you need to recharge it? Not like there is a high voltage/speed charge station at the corner of every field.
How big is the weight difference between this and a normal tracktor with driver's cab?
It is exactly the type of automation needed by the agriculture now
Am I the only one who likes this one more than CASE IH's? This looks super cool.
It looks like something for a super lazy farmer
Auto steer has been used for years and John Deere also has prototypes that use 1km or more of cable for power, which works perfectly in combination with auto steer.
As for maintenance electric vehicles have lower maintenance cost. Electric agricultural machines don't need to connect several consumers to a single Motor with gears shaft and belts but can power everything with its own motor. You also don't need transmission because motors can run at a different speed. And shockingly every one of these smaller motor only weights a fraction of an engine capable of running all systems at once. All of this lower maintenance cost even further.
Of course, when the low quality control board that has a BOM of $500 blows up, Deere will be happy to charge you $15000 dollars in parts, towing, labor and accounted downtime. Because only Deere can repair it, and if they don't it's a giant paperweight.
Don't even get me started on the battery pack. A NiMH pack would make the tractor heavier with a lower energy density. A Lion pack would have only a certain usable lifetime with the kind of heavy duty this will be doing, probably 5-10 years, where Deere will be happy to sell you a new pack for the price of the entire tractor.
Are those headlights on the front? And if so, why?
So humans can see it coming
It is a concept, but it has cameras all over it so the operator can log into remotely and view each camera. Colored cameras require lighting at night to see.
Work at night maybe? One for a marker and two maybe the radar detector needs it? Idk
Y'all are smart. Thanks for the awesome answers!
You have to have weight to drag equipment.
Ill miss driving my tractor
I’ve heard about the headless horseman but never about the headless tractor. It looks like it’s been half eaten by something. But never the less, this is most likely the future.
Know couple farmers in ontario Canada where they have bought older whites, where they have proven to get well over 10,000 hrs on them with little going wrong besides normal maintenance, no def, saving hundreds of thousands over new and run up to 1000 acres. This is the future ironically. Stuff is just getting way out of control for price of anything new....
Agreed. At some point the government will pass legislation demanding emissions controls on tractors, to force out even more smaller farmers
But how will a guy work 10000 acres or more with two old whites that have 170 horsepower
After Tonk, here is the next innovation, Troctur!
Thank you for your contribution, I laughed
I have some questions. How do I charge these combines when they are 3 counties away from the shop in the middle of a cornfield, in the middle of nowhere?" "How do I run them 24 hours a day for 10 or 12 days straight when the harvest is ready, and the weather is coming in?" "How do I get a 50,000+ lb. combine that takes up the width of an entire road back to the shop 20 miles away when the battery goes dead?
When the corn is ready to harvest, it has to have the proper sugar and moisture content. If it is too wet, it has to be put in giant dryers that burn natural or propane gas, and lots of it. Harvest time is critical because if it degrades in sugar content or quality, it can drop the value of his crop by half a million dollars or more. It is analyzed at time of sale. It is standard procedure to run these machines 10 to 12 days straight, 24 hours a day at peak harvest time. When they need fuel, a tanker truck delivers it, and the machines keep going.
i love computer made tractors in the junkyard on a Sunday afternoon an this will be in there when it hits the show room i like older tractors that were meant to be fixed an not your new tractors
I wonder if these same comments would fit when horses 🐎 started getting to be replaced first with steam power then on to internal combustion engines? I think YES! It's called progress and development. Many farmers around the globe 🌎 use GPS assist to farm and have been since it first hit the market years ago.
Let's all go back to coal oil lanterns to light our homes...
@@markinsacramento it’s called taking the joy out of what you do, makin you lazy and John Deere tryin to get money out of farmers cause they gone have to charge them thousands of dollars to come clear a code.
This will be the future, although it won't come overnight. Many smaller farmers probably won't own tractors, just hire them by the hour. These machines could run day and night, without disturbing neighbours. We might not like it but it will happen, just as diesel tractors replaced steam powered traction on the farm.
Future farmers will sit in their comfy home and control the tractor remotely. If you’re a farmer who owns land. This is going to make your life a bit easier
How many hours can it run per charge, how long to charge, what are the options for charging? Do I lose an hour or more every day to drive it to and from a charging station? Do I have to set a diesel generator up to charge it when I'm not close to home? Our tractors today run a minimum of 12 hours per day non stop to cover the acres. How will electric be competitive under those required circumstances?
John deere of the future is gonna be something to see
Can it drive to the closest JD shop automatically too? Because that would be would be best JD feature ever!
So maybe you can get a few rows done before it needs to charge?
What happens if something or someone (human, deer) is in their way?
You find your son pressed in a cube next to the hay
This is the future if farming, it will save hundreds of thousands off the purchase price of one of these bad boys, and the industry will follow the money.
A hired hand who doesn't smoke, drink, show up tired, have a sore back, can't find his gloves and doesn't get covid.....human farmers can focus on seeding, managing and harvest - let this thing do tillage out of sight out of mind.
But that takes the fun out of farming?
Maybe vehicle don’t have any emissions, but question is. What is a source of this electricity. Even if it’s “green power” how many carbonate were used to produce power plant
At this point, why not have an electric track system like you have with trolleys to at least charge the batteries within certain parameters? I mean you could you could have a system of workers that move high voltage line from one side of the farm to the other and the machine leeches to it. Perhaps not contact, but every 25,40,50 yards or so in either direction depending on a variety of factors. It’s not going to be cheap, but it’s definitely an investment and you could pay for low skilled people to do that dirty work. Is this better than autonomous diesels? I don’t know, but this would be great in flat terrain that doesn’t need much maneuvering or crazy terrain navigation.
What happens when it gets stuck in the mud? Or the implement needs adjustment?
Common i loved Jhon deer until now
@@TFT-bp8zk I ment "come on"
Does it makes it's own electricity?
That's nice and all but is the owner of the machine allowesd to fix it themselves?
Add some water to that field, see how,it handles mud.
Anybody know anything about time machines? Take me back to the good ol days.
To solve some arguments, I am a farmer. I have a big family and a big corn farm in Texas. But, I love my robot tractor. I set it to work while I go ride my 1940 model B in the veggie garden. It's so cool. God gave us tools and knowledge and robotics we are going to use them. All you nuts should calm down about these they're fun.
and it will run over 32 minutes on a single charge
And you'll need to replace the non-recyclable battery every few years because of the environment.
Can be Modified to Be used for Extinguishing Forest fire..
Where does the material to make those rubber tracks and plastic parts come from? How is the minerals mined to make the Batteries? Fossil fuels will never disappear.
"Fossil fuels will never disappear.
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They will by their very nature, disappear
So this is what you get if you chop the cab off a skid steer and put a 3 point linkage on the back
It takes the fun out of farming 🚜🚜
Wonder what the electric bill looks like after charging that thing. Youd have to have three phase
Don't take the farmer out of farming!
Oh wow am I off!?! I was researching robotic tractors again, and wondered if tractors have AR windows yet, (with farming on screen hubs)?
It's adorable!
What is this tracked flat-iron
Das war eine Werbeeinschaltung der TV-Serie „Bauer sucht Frau“.
This would be fun to own
You could power up the tires on the disc also
Run time and charge time? Would like to see a weight system that allows you to add batteries instead of just dead weight too.
1 hour run time 20 hour charge time lol
Not seeing a wind mill or solar panel on top when you're to far from an extension cord.
This takes you to the next level
Is it self controlled or is it manually
Lol I had to check to see if this was posted on April fools day.
Here comes some dealer 'specialised' reaming for software faults for customers:-))
Helper one is stuck
All jokes aside you get people who want to farm as autonomous as possible and then you get people like me who loves being up on a tractor and want to farm the old school way one thing to remember is that a older tractor can be just as good as a new tractor and even better in some ways because you can reper them on site but you guys are welcome to let me know wat you think but my opinion is that older tractors are better than new ones
What are they gonna do about the weight issue?
It can only pull implements rated for the traction coefficients that is capable of applying. So you wouldn't pull a 40ft disc with this.
Make you buy smaller implements and more auto tractors to do the same work. So esentially the farmer is moved out of the tractor and into a pickup, cause your gonna be busy af responding to error codes...
How it stands up with just 2 wheels:)))
Ever heard of Segway'?
@@ITubeTooInc How would that gain enough traction? There are plenty of farms where the hill is on a +30 degreased incline. Good luck sending that down or across it.
There are so many small things that the farmer does to keep the machines going. The planter will get clogged and the rippers too. I think this might work as a concept but the ability for this to assist the farmer properly is slim. The farmer would have to track the machine down to just unclog it.
@@dixonhill1108 Im not a salesman. It's youtube comments.
please can i have the background sound
How long does one charge last?
nothing runs like a deer. ya but when you can hear it run
ya thats not going to work if your in a field that has wet spots and such. A computer cant detect which way to go if the tractor starts to get stuck. You have to see where its not wet (which side of where you are or even if not to continue forward) then decide on what course of action to take
What does it have a 20 min supply of electricity and then what?
Do they come in red colour?
I don't like the idea of integrated implements, because it's obviously a way to get customers to buy multiple units, when it would be cheaper to have 1 unit swap implements on its own.
One day barns are just gonna be full of attachments. It will go grab what it needs.
Amazing capture
The rise of the machines!
More like the fall.
Классный трактор! Автопилот не уйдет в запой
Will this lead to walmart and amazon farms?
Molto bello , però secondo me uno perde il gusto a usare un trattore quel john deere mi sembra un giocattolo !!!!
hoverboard tractor change my mind
Make one with a cab that I can drive it would be a handy little chore tractor.
So they made a version with a cab
Ah yes so when something breaks on the implement it's hauling like a disc falling off it just keep going without you knowing!
Those things are just creepy..............
Kind of unnatural, like driving a car in the 1890s, flying across the country in the 1920s, or going WWI in a tank. This is just the next logical step in large scale farming.
The science is sound and farming is a good real world testbed for fully autonomous vehicles. Deere already has satellite guided tractors/combines to reduce fuel consumption, over/under fertilization, and maximize yield.