What Happens When ATP & WTA Players Face Off In Tennis?
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- What Happens When ATP & WTA Players Face Off In Tennis?
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My former trainer as I was a teenager at the beginning of the 90thies was 39 years old lefthander, played regional league and Graf‘s sparings partner. As she was No. 1, she had no chance against him. Also when they played without serve, only points!
yep.. if someone has 1 ATP point and is listed in ATP ranking no women would beat him. it takes a hell of a work to get 1 ATP point...
Do you know his ranking, though? Was he ever ranked at one point? Many club players have once been ranked, and are better than they sound on paper.
@@dnisbet71 No. As active one he played regional (3rd) league.
@@Marc443 extraordinary, especially as this shows andreeva was getting close (but by no means equal, just competitive). I still have to trust this video, and the UTR, which suggests Iga would be about the same as Ghazouani.
@@Marc443 do you know his usta rating? (Where the women and men have separate ratings, so a 5.0 woman has no chance against a 5.0 man). The point is, i was just watching Winston Du, and he does matchups 4.5 (him) against women. He is similar to a 5.0 woman, not such a huge difference at mid-level play.
I love to watch WTA. And it's obvious they aren't on the same level physically, I mean you just have to watch one match of male tennis first and then female tennis to see a very noticeable difference. But it's more about the competition within their levels rather than the comparison between male and female.
Couldn’t agree more. I love the fact that women can have more sustained rallies and get into a nice rhythm more often than the men
At Wimbledon they tried having men's days and women's days and the attendance wasn't so good on the women's days so they've kept them mixed together.
There's always been a massive difference between the top 5 or so women and the rest so there's really no point in playing longer matches at least in the early rounds. That is, if the first two sets have gone 6:0, 6:1 then what is the point of playing any more? Besides, the question has been answered by the authorities who say there just isn't enough time in the slam tournaments to have everyone playing best of five.
I think women's tennis is in better shape than it's ever been though, and it's actually more interesting than the men's game at the moment.
"Would you like to apologize?" "No." Lmao mcenroe goated for that
People really need to understand the difference of athletic ability between different genders.
Take 100m sprint for example:
Female world record 10.49s by Florence Griffith
NSW (state in Australia) high school meet record 10.29s by Matt Shirvington.
This scaling is largely correct in terms of any professional sport. A world class female athlete’s level is usually around the level of a state/national level teenager.
This may sound harsh, but biology has nothing to do with gender equality.
People really need to understand this? Why? Also, you would lose to any of the top female players, so why does it matter so much to you if a top ranked teenage male beats a top ranked female? Either way, you are not any of those people. So, who cares? lol
Vid shows the truth. Women’s tennis is a different game in general. But I like how WTA developed. I make the overall level 5 times higher than 30 Years ago, where only the top 20 where watchable. I have sound reason to have been a threat to a few top 20 WTA back then and on the same basis I believe my old self at peak to have no real chance against a top 100 WTA today for at least over a decade now. They are complete players and earn their pay. I can enjoy watching lower women’s pro matches now. Back then it was too easy to get quite far in women’s professional tennis for my taste. Today women need all skills for tennis at good level and still train hard to earn money with it. Respect!
Statistics also prove the point. Big servers on the WTA would be about average on the ATP tour as they serve roughly 10% or more slower than the big ATP servers. The same would be true of groundstroke average speeds too. You can also look at speed on court and the men would be faster on average too.
@@CJZM7777 roughly true, i think similar on groundstrokes, but very different on court coverage. Not sure if the big servers are that comparable to the men - i think close but not quite. Seems about 20kph difference across the board - match the fastest man and woman, similarly match the second fastest (in the top 100 ranked for each) and seems about 20kph, maybe 25. Big serving female = just below mid-range male i *think*
We all know Bobby Riggs threw that match.
There is a lot of evidence to support this but it cannot be proven. Personally, I think it is more likely he threw the match than not. ESPN did a story about this years ago. There was a statement left by a deceased employee of the Vegas hotel and the employee stated he heard Riggs discussing throwing the match with the gangsters. Gardner Malloy was an ex-player and Riggs' friend and he said he thinks Riggs threw the match because Riggs wanted a rematch to make more money. Malloy said Riggs practiced hard for the match against Court but didn't practice for the King match. Malloy said he and Riggs drank and partied with the show girls every night before the Riggs match.
Only in Grand Slams, men definitely should be paid more because of the 5 sets and the training for it
A point for the the other view is that you need 2 weeks of 5 sets just to add the fitness drama to the men’s game. Often the player with the best fitness, by genetics, training, etc., holds out in that 5th set. The same thing happens in the women’s game in the 3rd set, whether they spend as much time training or not.
But about using physical difficulty in level of prize money in the first place: I wonder why should winners on the golf circuit get more than tennis players?
For me it’s about creating drama and competition, and what the most people want to watch. I like watching the women’s game as much as the men’s and prefer 3 set matches as 5 setters are often crazy long and unpredictable, could be 1 hour, could be 4. 🤷♂️
@@markoshun loco u loco dude
you should get paid what you bring in. Therefore in Tennis men should always get paid more. If one argues women in Tennis should get paid the same than by thatnlogic tabletennis-players should also get the same as tennis players and furthermore: every professional sport should paid the exact same
@@TopEveryThing-yi3py that isn't a rebuttal. learn to make a cogent argument, rather than ad hominem idiocy.
Men get paid more because they sell more. Female fashion models get paid more than men, because women buy more clothing and female models are used to advertise those clothing.
Regardless of anything, all I want is to see women have to also play best of 5 sets at Grand Slams.
The Grand Slams for men is special because they're the only tournaments with this format and you end up with some killer marathon matches that none of the other tournaments are capable of matching.
The Grand Slams for women may as well be just any other tournament.
Men's College Tennis Champ would beat any WTA player.
top college recruits could destroy any wta player
I saw the original video comparing wta 57 vs men's 1000+ a month or 2 ago. While obviously Mr 1000+ won, I'd say that Ms WTA 57 did reasonably well. The first set was no walk over. Also, she's really young. I think she was 15 or 16 at the time, possibly inexperienced.
It's a pity we can't get a proper match between, say, Iga and a series of men of various ranks, like 50/100/200/500/1000.
What do you expect to see ? 😂 seriously let's stop with this nonsense..can't fight nature
Has to be at least 1000 to be competitive.
Hate all the furore about M v F and prize money, but enjoyed your deep dive, particularly the timeline of M v F matches. Gonna watch the “business realities of playing pro tennis” vid you recommended (which has been on my watchlist) 👍🏻
This is so silly. For example, A pro male middle weight boxer would not stand a chance against a pro male heavy weight boxer. Strength , body size etc. matters, same in tennis. The video is great though to make a comparison, but I dont like when some people look down on women tennis and say that they should be paid less due to the fact that they would not beat the men.
Men play best of 5 women play best of 3. More people watch men's tennis, therefore generate more money. Of course they shouldn't be paid the same
@@DSN262 hmm, I wonder who decided woman should play best of 3. I wonder why less people watch women's tennis, can't be connected with less money put in advertising, right? I can assure you more people watched Serena than Medvedev but guess who gets more money.
I like it just fine if they are paid less as they aren't bringing in the fans, the WTA is a leach organization of the men's tour and I think marciano was probably capable of fighting as and beating middleweights and heavyweights
Look at the end of year price money list. Women players are not paid the same as men. They on average earn less than the guys per year except for joint products like the grandslams and big 1000 events. Tennis players are not paid per game or hour so the argument on best of 3 or 5 sounds so ridiculous to me. My opinion is to look at it purely revenue standpoint. When it's a joint event. It's a single product and they should be paid the same based on the revenue share. When it's a seperate event they should be paid differently according to revenue split. On average standalone Atp events of the similar level earn more than wta events, which is why the guys earn more than the girls combined. The argument to should instead focus on getting more revenue for both tours especially lower ranked players. Instead of this
women cant last 5 sets thats pretty easy to understand. serena is literally an icon and the only example that probably works lol@@Vescilla
Biology is a simple but crazy thing, women have weaker bones, muscles organs etc, and when height is added that sums it up.
On avg*
"weaker bones"..? um, pretty sure the bones are made of the same thing and don't contribute deferentially to hitting other than their size. maybe focus more on muscle mass guy😬
@@DanielBoonelightThey’re made of the same thing, but men have more of it. They have more mass on the bones and the bones are denser. Testosterone is a major difference that allows for this, especially in puberty.
@@flipwarrior gee thanks for repeating my exact point back to me. congrats, genius.
@@DanielBoonelight he didnt say repeat you at all? you were talking about muscle mass and he was talking about bones being denser in men than in women.
Very interesting video !
Great content and I agree
The solution is simple really: Understand UTR.
UTR (Universal Tennis Rating) is an algorithm based rating system that has taken all the guess work out of who would win.
When the UTRs are within 0.25-0.75 decimals of each other, the match will almost always be a toss up. Outside of that range, the higher UTR will win 99% of the time.
So, for example, a female player with a 7 UTR will beat a male player with a UTR of 6.25 or less 99 out of 100 times.
If we look at the current UTRs of ALL professional tennis players, the top men are usually between 14.5 -16.0 whereas the top women are generally between 12.0-13.0.
A better video would be the strength of the tours. Women cant seem to keep their stars playing for more than a few years. Osaka, Barty, Kerber, Mugarutha, all won multiple slams. Aside from Osakas comeback, its difficult to find any of them.
There's really nothing to debate about here. It's only a debate when someone decides to change the definition of some term. If women who want to be like a man and compete like a man they should be welcome to do so. Why even call this era the 'Open" era if we are not opening up the draw to all tennis players regardless of gender or mental state? To say that Serena Williams is the best tennis player, male or female is saying if both tours merged into one, she would be the best player on that tour. An obviously false statement. It only becomes true when you decide to change the definition of "tennis player" to something only you know and nobody else knows. You might as well invent your own language at that point.
Except that if Serena Williams had been born a man, she would be one of the best players. No one is inventing any definition, the reason why we are saying she is the best player is because if there was no physical difference in bodies, she would be one of the best players.
@@esbymaziwy7681 You living in some fantasy world? The fact is everyone is dealt a hand they must play with. Playing what-ifs does not make a good argument because someone can always make a better what-if scenario and you have endless debate over nothing.
@@twinwankel You live in a fantasy world where we can't compare people due to privilege and luck at birth, praising the great male players just for being born a man, like the cards dealt is some sort of achievement in itself.
Serena's hitting partner who said he couldn't make it on the men's pro tour wrote on a good day she could have gotten two games off him max. This was around 2010. Also, Evert's brother played D1 at Vanderbilt on a tennis scholarship and was state champion in Florida. All of the Everts were Florida State Champions-Quite impressive legacy from their quiet, non assuming father who taught them all.
I'm a 6.0 (usta rankings, with zero world ranking points) and I beat easily women ranked around 50 in the world. Male and female tennis are 2 different sports.
We will never know but I think Riggs threw the King match. There's an ESPN article about this and a deceased employee of the Vegas hotel where King worked left a statement saying he overheard King and 2 "gangsters" discussing throwing the match. Anyhow, I am male and love tennis. I play singles, doubles and mixed doubles in leagues. I love to watch ATP and WTA matches. But, the best WTA players in the world cannot compete with the best ATP players. I have played in USTA and local leagues and find there's about a .5 to 1 difference between men and women amateur players too. The women needs to be .5 or more higher than the male to be competitive with the male in singles on average.
Serena is honest
I appreciated her comments
In that particular interview she was, for once.
Age is one thing but I'm a decade older than he was at the time of that match and I can move at least twice as fast as he did during that match. Something doesn't add up.
you are a legend in your own mind
That Mcenroe reaction to apology request is crazily crazy!
did it make you feel powerful, kid? lolol
Keep up the good content mate!
Imagine if Tennys Sandgren had married Margaret Court. Clearly, Tennys would've assumed Court as his last name.
I’m a former 90’s satellite player between the years of 1992-1995. Coached at both Hopman and IMG. I travel and train budding tour players now. This is why we need women’s and men’s tennis. Women are excellent against each other. It’s a game of chess. Against the men, they would only be defending themselves and redlining. We used to have top male juniors train with Hingis and Capriati. The #1 15 year old in the country was beating them both. The power of the male forearm begins to dominate that of females once the testosterone kicks in. That’s also why the larger framed women dominate the smaller framed women much of the time in clashes. If they would kill the racquet and string power in the game, tennis would get really exciting again. People of all sizes and different games would be able to get involved in the game. It’s the reason the pickle ball explosion happened. Power of the racquets and strings…
Mix dubs is under-rated, can be fun to watch.
I coached male Juniors 15-18yrs ranked around 10-20 at state level and they could easy beat WTA ranked players inside top300. those guys never had a chance for 1ATP point at all. i seen the braasch/williams encounter also. it was funny cos braasch was half drunk, just played 4hours golf in 90F heat.. he smoked a ziggy and started to thrash them. he played 50% capacity .
Maybe do a video on Renee Richards?
He was a complete failure and too old. LOL
I kind of tend to enjoy watching the WTA because the rallies end up being more strategic and the playstyles are less homogenous and more distinguishable
Put men's #1 vs women's #1 and see how it goes. The girl might not score a point.
Why? What’s the point? we know the men would win. So? Doesn’t change the fact the female players are world class and have built a tour that brings in millions annually
novak wud beat swiatek 6-0 6-0 lol ..but she prolly wins a few pts on joker errors
Happy you remember Braasch.
Loved that guy in the past.
The thing with the andreeva match is that she Acc could have won it. Watched the whole match. In the first set she showed she hit the ball with more skill. But yeah the fact she’s 16 plus the extra power from the guy made her slip and lose
Nah, not a chance. As the game went on and the inexperienced male player grew comfortable with the camera's and spotlight, he found his zone and she was screwed.
Huge difference between 1145th and 57th wrt experience playing in front of crowds, cameras and all the pressure and intensity that comes with it.
She could have won the first set maybe cuz dude was sandbaggin but he prob would have won in 3 even if she got the 1st aet
I'm all in favor of equal pay for both women and men if they play the same amount of games and sets in a match. I find it very strange that the women play at a grand slam event a match of the best of three sets and men the best of five. But they both receive the same amount of prize money. That doesn't sound that equal to me, does it. Seems like favoritism or compensation for all the years of inequality. I would think that the women would comment on this questionable equal playing field. But I haven't heard any women tennis players bring this up. I heard many years ago the reason why women play the best of three and the men the best of five is that it was too strenuous for the women to play all those sets certainly at a two week event. Which are the rules at the grand slams. Strange. Is that true equality? Hmmm.
Equal pay in tennis for generating vastly different revenue amounts, means unequal pay disadvantaging the men
Ironic, isn’t it? When the goal is equality.
Why didn't you include Helen Wills in the video?
There’s no point pitting men against women. Why would we even want to?
i' am an amateur tennis player and the first time i was kinda shocked about the difference of level between male and female at the same classement.
Today my tennis Coatch who is a female is ranked to division above me, its represent 6 rankings above mine, that's a lot in tennis. And i beat her.
Fun fact in the French tennis league you can play friendly match and they can count for your official classement.
if a female beat a male she gain the points even if she is ranking higher than the men.
But if a male beat a female who's raking way higher than him like me and my Coatch he gain nothing!
End of the debate! 😂
Women only play 2/3 sets while men have to gruel out best of 5 sets in slams, and they get equal prize money!???!? That’s crazy.
Equal pay for equal play LMAO
The tickets for the men's GS finals may be up to double that of the women's final. The finalists should get a bonus as a percentage of gate takings which would give the men more with the same formula.
It's about time that women play 5 sets like the men in Grand Slams. They have almost equal endurance I would imagine.
As a woman, I agree. I would like to see the man’s matches be 2 out of 3 since some 5 set matches go on way too long. Those who promote women getting equal prize money say it has to do with the amount of revenue brought in. It does seem unfair that men should not get more pay when they are on the court longer.
Please don’t suggest we watch 5 sets of women’s tennis.
You forgot to mention Thomas Muster vs. Sybille Bammer. Muster won 6:3 6:2.
Professional male players are tough. Almost everyone is 6 foot and first serves are 110mph constantly.
i hate the argument about equal pay bc it’s not for us to decide. how much a player gets paid doesn’t impact our viewing experience, and also equal pay isn’t even really for the top players on the men’s and women’s side (most of their revenue comes from sponsorships), it’s mainly about the players ranked around 150-200 that need the higher wages to afford to play as a career. to say “men deserve more money bc xyz” does nothing but limit the opportunity for wta players outside the top 100.
we have to reason for categories. Also inside men´s sports there are categories. Boxe for example, a middle weight Canelo Alavarez or Floyd Mayweather despite they are puound for pound among the greatest they would have never competed against a heavy weight. Women and Men are two categories in Sports full stop. And there is not exclusion of talents in these assumptions.
I wouldn't be trying that hard if it was my career and income stream, obviously for him it isn't.
And the elephant in the room.. same pay?
Just about every other sport separates men and women, even Golf. I don't get why I never hear about such a debate in other sports. What makes people think Tennis would be different?
Do people not remember Renee Richards? She/He played as a pro in the 80s or 90s.
Tennis Plus after this video: 🤑🤑💰💰💰💰
Women's tennis is the only female sport that is exciting. Go to almost any random person on the street and ask them to name the top player in any other female sport. Who are the top 5 WNBA players, or soccer, or golf, or softball, or... I just love women's tennis.
Just compare the UTRs of men and women players, we can get a fair idea of the level difference 🙂
Women playing only best of 3 at Slams just seems patronising to me. Imagine suggesting that women should only run 25km for the marathon?? If it's understood that the physicality of the women's game is lower, why should it be shorter as well? And getting paid the same for less work is just wrong
they don't want to play 5 sets.... a boycott was led by Graf in 1995
Golf had the same question now and again, but since golf is a non-combative game, and you are playing yourself, you figure a woman migtht have a better chance, and some LPGA players got exemptions to play in PGA events. In the end, only one woman ever made the cut I believe at a PGA event and that was years ago.
Yeah there's no question about how competitive a match would be between professional men and women. The problem I have is that the question was is Serena the greatest tennis player, not is Serena the best tennis play. She's definitely not the best, no questions. But to ask for a definition on greatness, I think she ticks a lot of the boxes in the greatness category.
Graf ticks quite a few more actually. There's a lot of woke crap flying around the sports world, if Graf were black they'd be saying how she's still the modern era women's goat, she won a lot more tournaments matches and major tournaments per year on tour. We follow reality to some extent but the rest of the hype spewed is all agenda
I have to give credit to Serena Williams for admitting to facts. I was never a star player for my schools and college but I have played younger female players who were star players for their colleges and bagel/breadstick/pretzels them
I agree that players should be compensated according to the revenue that they generate, which is a basic principle of economics. I believe that, the moment that you start advocating for equal pay without economic justification, you are a just making a political argument. Even female players like Pegula have said that they need to grow the female audience, so equal pay can be justify. Just remember that female players play less sets in Grand slams and bring less audiences but get equal pay.
A man playing against a pro woman is like a pro woman playing against a child.
Are people not aware of swimming and track and field - we can see the difference in times between men and women there. So what? Women’s track and field and swimmigg by is far more exciting than the men’s at the moment.
Only because of drama, not actual competitiveness.
ATP needs to ditch the WTA in GS as the WTA is leeching off the men.
As far as prize money, I prefer equal prize money at joint events. I would pick seeing the top ATP players over the top WTA players but other fans may pick the WTA players so equal prize money may the best option. I also like the precedent of equal pay for men and women.
You do realize that at joint events each individual match has their own ticket sales. When twelve people pay to see a third round women's match and 1,200 pay to see a third round men's match, just because it's a "joint" event doesn't mean the revenues are made equally.
You must be a liberal.
I've been to joint events at Indian Wells and US Open and never saw a ticket for an individual match. You could buy reserved seats in a stadium of grounds pass and both types of tickets had a variety of men's and women's matches.@@stupidas9466
I have been to the USOpen and Indian Wells and you did not purchase individual tickets to the men's and women's matches. I bought a reserved stadium ticket and saw both ATP and WTA matches for that single ticket.@@stupidas9466
Newsflash, men are physically stronger and faster than women. I don’t agree that they are more skilled though. Plus, it is about the competition and rivalries other than comparison. Male spiders are far smaller than female spiders. It wouldn’t be fun to watch them fight because of the female spider’s advantage physically. A fight between 2 male spiders would be far more entertaining.
I never understood why people in the tennis game were so hell bent on trying to get women’s to beat men. It’s just not biologically possible, if you look at statistics, men’s serve on average is 10-15 mph faster then the women, and ground strokes also about 5-10 mph faster on average. The men also hit much more RPMs: it’s not fair to compare the 2. Their isn’t another sport where men ever face off against women so why would tennis be any different. Ofc Serena is a GOAT of tennis but everyone knows that Rafa or Federer would likely beat her 6-0. Doesn’t mean she’s not great. The sports are separate for a reason.
we have to keep the trans from destroying women's tennis
yes the fake argument about trans athletes. how many trans players are there in the WTA top 200?
Good, let's keep it that way
@@kenelder9615 because it has never been an issue… it’s a straw man argument
@@belladonnagwynett1763 Lia Thomas is a strawman
@@kenelder9615 yes, she began competing in 2017 as a man and had many achievements as a cisgender male (6th fastest man nationally for the 1000yd freestyle, finished 2nd for the men’s 500, 1000, and 1650yd freestyle).
When she began competing as a woman around 2019 she was significantly slower than pre transitioning (around 20 seconds slower), and despite being transitioned since 2019 she didn’t win any women’s event until March 2022
Even then she was still 10 seconds behind the world record held by Katie Ledecky.
Not only should men get paid more because they generate more revenue, but also because they have to work much harder in Grand Slams.
Logic is frowned upon today.
what
@@isthatatrickquestion1632
Men have to win 3/5 sets in slams, but women only have to win 2/3.
@@jonathanrandall4140 .
If women play 5 sets as men side, and they generate same amount of money, I won’t have any issue for women to get the same prizes.
Riggs tanked!
i much prefer to watch women's tennis over men's, women engage and actually hit balls back and forth, with the exception of Andre Agassi, men with their ballistic serves just take turns blowing aces by each other.......
Williams men
Have one question, men's play best of 5 and women's play best of 3. It means that the men have to do more work and play for more more hrs than women, still women's get the same prize as women. It seem ridiculous. Aryna Sabalenka played 1hr 20 mins, and took the same prize money as Jannik Sinner who was in the court for more than 4 hrs. Where is the equality here?
If women's want equal prize money, they should also play best of 5.
What's your thoughts?
I'm actually curious why not just best of 3 and the finals or perhaps semi-finals and finals be best of 5 for both men and women.
They want superiority not equality
I don't think the men's tournaments stay Bo5 forever tbh. They already changed the Master's finals down to Bo3 and every major has limited sets down with tie-breaks. I think within the next ten years, either the Australian Open of US Open eliminates Bo5, with the French third, and Wimbledon changing last.
won't happen unless the sport drops in popularity so far that literally no one gives a damn about it, and everyone sucks up any and all pride for desperate shot at sports relevancy, what you suggest would break with history and makes even modern day grand slam comparisons meaningless @@chrisf9156
There are no guarantees in any sport or b/n women vs mens atp players but if its a best of 3 matches or 5 matches then men will win more often than not. I am not saying best of 3 sets or 5 sets. If they play 3 or 5 matches, then the results will be different.
The ATP & WTA Canadian Opens are both 1000s, held at the same facilities and same cities, yet the men's prize money total is almost $7 million whereas the women-@ only $2.9 million. But for combined events (like the Slams, IW, Miami, etc.) presto! change-o! The women suddenly "deserve" equal prize money. Equal prize money is a steaming pile of cow plop.
Yeah Mac! No stupid woke shit. Just truth.
Don't understand why, there are no more battle of sexes matches happening, it seems the interest is good.
Have you watched any WTA tour events? I'm not talking about the majors (but even then, the fan support is much lower than the men's). At the other events, there are hardly any one in the stands. They are like challenger events. The ATP vs WTA tours are a lot like the NBA vs WNBA leagues. The revenues and interests are so far apart that giving women equal pay is like charity. And it's not fair to the men and it's not fair to the women cos many will never feel like they are deserving. The fairest thing to do is to separate all of the events like the PGA and LPGA and let the WTA see what they can really pay their players.
At pro level, there's a massive different. But at amateur level, they shouldn't have separate gender leagues.
This is mostly about mediocre men trying to feel superior because other men can beat women at tennis. Dudes can live vicariously, even though none of them could actually beat anyone at tennis. lolol Feel better, bros?
As of 2024….. any woman player can never beat Novak in a tennis match
Yeah really, the only thing if you want to create tennis equality… just make women play best of 5 with the men? Part of the reason I dislike watching Women’s tennis. Too short and comebacks are few.
What’s the point of a peak atp player taking on a peak era - we know the era player would lose love and love. It does nothing but diminish women’s tennis which has done so much for women’s sports
If the WTA tour disappeared tomorrow, I’d probably not even notice!
IDK, I love watching Sabalenka, Ostapenko, Rybakina, Sakkari, and others.
And? If the NBA or NFL. disappeared tomorrow I wouldn’t notice either. But that’s irrelevant.
@@michaeldrake3454 I would love if the NBA and NFL disappeared forever.
@@michaeldrake3454Irrelevant enough to yank your chain that you replied. Did my comment hurt your delicate sensitivities?
Women only play best of 3 sets in every tournament. #weaksauce
Guess who decided about that. Women wouldn't have a problem with playing best of 5, biologically they have better endurance than men. They don't play best of 5 because the establishment doesn't want women to take up too much time in the schedule.
@@Vescilla Woman do not have better endurance than men lol
@@Vescilla Then lower the pay lol
I think if a player grunts while playing there should be a mandatory 50% reduction in winnings. There are men who do it but many more women do it. If Azerenka or Sabelenka play I just watch the highlights because the matches are unbearable.
Are you too young to remember Monica Seles? She started it all... and I love her. Sharapova was the loudest.
@@networth00 Yes. Of course I remember her . She did start it for the most part but at least her's was more of a yelp. Lol
no women player can beat any guy who is listed in atp ranking !!! not even ATP ranking 2000. PERIOD !
You mean no girl!
The player UTR is a good indication of who can beat who. Iga has a UTR similar to an ATP # 900.
I would take that bet. The best woman can beat a ATP 1500 player but it wouldn't be a given.
@@gab_ale no women ranked in wta can beat anyone who is ranked in atp. what u not understand here?
@@danielboomers Whatever you say. You must be an "expert".
You can only be beaten from a woman if you re not profesional but she is. Girls can start beating good recreative tennis player from 12 already for sure. Thats time after playing from 5, 6 yr age she is getting stronger. SO i dont understand how Roddick lost to Serena. At 11 when she was 12. He probably was awful at this age. She was probably very good. I cant explain otherwise.
i don't know if you saw Roddick just coming on tour versus that bald eastern european player who used to be on federer's coaching staff...he was lanky skinny awkward not fully coordinated, he may or may not have been faking cramping, he was certainly exaggerating any problems he was having though and it was a disgrace, he was rightly called out for his ridiculous tv drama by his opponent, he was not mentally ready to perform on the world stage in any way. I've always viewed that guy as a total clown due to that match
I need a transwoman to play women’s tennis now!!!! Be woke