History Of The Ultimate Symbiote Killer - Anti-Venom (Spider-man 2 Ps5)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ต.ค. 2023
- Anti-Venom is definitely one of the least known Symbiotes in the marvel universe, So take this short journey with me as we discuss the ultimate healer!
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Insomniac’s adaptation of anti venom and making Peter the host is actually a really interesting take
Insomniac adapted very good the Anti-Venom as just a "safe to use" symbiote, and I remember in the comics and Edge of Time whem Anti-Venom touched Peter he would try to "cure" him, which means get rid of his powers
i mean sure since it makes peter actually good to play instead of just being worse than miles (ingame), but i still feel like having no downsides to using the symbiote is kinda lame
Fun fact, that's actually not the first time Peter was unaffected by Anti-Venom's touch. The first was in the Ultimate Spider-Man show, and there wasn't a specific reason given for it or anything but in that show Anti-Venom is genetically related to him so maybe that has something to do with it
@@mugitude They missed out on an oppourtunity storywise (because the story was rushed or because they just didn't think of it) and that's having a mission where you play with Pete and he starts going a bit into his black suit ways even without the symbiote corrupting him but he at the end fully beats his addiction.
@@mugitudedoes everyone think spider-man was getting weaker? I thought the kravon and venom where just stronger and spider-man was getting to old to quickly grow to their level like he’s younger self or miles would
Even thought anti venom is made to destroy other symbiotes, Venom carnage and toxin would overwhelm and beat him ngl
I guess it depends on who’s anti venoms host is
@@admiralalbion2279exactly! Spidey is already pretty damn overpowered WITHOUT a Symbiote, now give him an ANTI Symbiote? I think he stands a pretty good chance.
Toxin is better but carnage is not you didt watch who is stronger or what and with peter having it its even better than the toxin
Also that version of carnage from the death of venomverse Idk if he has a name to differentiate him from other versions (he was just called carnage in the comic)
@lonestarwolfentertainment7184 yep he was so weak in the game
Not having Eddie be part of the PS4/5 storyline may have been the best decision they made. It resulted in not only Harry becoming Venom (Which is just more interesting in my opinion) but also Peter becoming Anti-Venom, so he now has his own permanent (Presumably) Symbiote powers that are completely under his control.
yup especially since it gives Pete a subset of powers to keep him interesting and as versatile as Miles
cuz it would suck if Miles gets this cool bonus powers like electricity and invisibility AND tech on top of all that while Pete only gets tech
@@boshlovely2002 Right. The Spider arms are cool, but Peter definitely needed something else to keep up with Miles. That's why the Symbiote powers are important.
Peter could somehow give the anti venom symbiote to Harry in the third game to keep him alive??
@@jacksondavis3355 Probably.
@@jacksondavis3355unless the symbiote is bonded with him like venom was and wont leave him. But if they carry over rhe whole "can cure any disease" power of anti venom then he wouldn't need to.
Damn so There’s literally no downsides to having a anti venom Symbiote.
Also for the versus question I actually don’t know, anti venom should logically win but all 3 symbiotes working together would be deadly
It's possible to drain his antibodies if he uses too much in a short period of time
@@BSM-vw6cf yeah got let it recharge every now and then.
@crimsonrayquaza46 plus the Carnage symbiote is immune to Anti-Venom's touch now, it's evolved to purge itself of all weaknesses.
@@BSM-vw6cfis that actually canon to 616 tho? And even so, it still isn’t canon to insomniacs universe
@hackerman2552 yep it's 616 Carnage. After the events of King In Black Cletus was dead but his contiousness existed within the Carnage symbiote and it allowed him to have control due to their perfect symbiosis. After taking the Extrembiote from Tony Stark Cletus was happy with the power he had but Carnage wanted to become a god killer which was their original plan so Cletus expelled Carnage from the Extrembiote. The Carnage symbiote went on to steal Hydro-Man's and Spot's powers to take form without a host and travel the multiverse. On it's journey Carnage forged a god killing weapon called All-Blood and fused itself with uru metal before traveling the multiverse and killing Venoms from various realities to gain the powers of their hosts and hone its skills. It gained abilities such as a Hell-Mark and electricity and became immune to fire, sound and Anti-Venom's touch. Once it was strong enough and purged of weakness it traveled to a reality where Knull was invading and killed him, taking his power and was now ready to take on Eddie Brock and take the throne of King In Black for itself. While this was going on Cletus was doing his own thing with the Extrembiote just killing people and eventually took over the city but was defeated, after realizing Carnage's power surpassed his own he wanted to bond with him again and add his power to Carnage's. If they do become one again and Cletus with his Extrembiote is added to Carnage's vast power I think the only thing that can stop him is Eddie Brock or Codex.
This is the true definition of
“I use the Symbiote to kill the Symbiote”
It is confusing that he is in the new Spider-man game...sort of?
You see the anti venom suit or anti symbiote suit being able to burn away symbiotes, but in terms of strength, it doesn't seem superior to Venom.
It took the combined strength of Miles and Peter to defeat Venom.
And even afterwards they aren't really talking about it.
Peter legit says that its all the power minus the voices. So strength wise its same as what he had with the black suit. But venom is more powerful due to bonding with peter, feeding on harry’s intense negative emotions, as well as being empowered by the meteorite
Yeah the Venom was juiced up on the meteorite.
And it has to do on how much peter had to hold back to hopefully reason harry out of the situation he can easily take the symbiote with his anti venom abilities during cutscenes
@spider-man5544 I chalk it up half to yeah. Peter is holding back to save Harry since Conners said if they remove Venom, Harry will die. And Peter doesn't want that. But also game play wise if they kept it true to the comics Symbiotes would take damage just from hitting you making Peter the far superior choice over Miles for any post game city missions.
I think its just Venom being more powerful this time around.
If anti venom was created from the bits left over in his body, then I wonder what would happen if Mr negative touched a already whole symbiote
I doubt the results would be different. I think what happened is that Martin turned that last piece of Venom into Anti-Venom and then it started to regenerate itself into its complete version.
Something like that did happened. In the comic a symbiote dragon was created and mix with anti venom 2 creating anti venom 3 and it have animalistic personality.
Silence aka (anti scream) was created from a piece of scream symbiote and it also have a mind
Well there's Anti-Carnage an alternate version of Cletus Kasady who was Carnage for a while but after somehow becoming Anti-Carnage he became good and wanted to make amends for his evil deeds as Carnage.
Probably not the strongest symbiote but definitely the best to have seeing as you have full control over it and it is not trying to make you eat everybody
Most actually don’t know that venom came as a hero, but became a villain because of Peter Parker rejecting him when he helped him out and saved countless lives including his best friends.
eddie got cancer because venom convinced eddie a lie that he had cancer and venom was the only thing keeping him alive so that eddie wouldnt lose or break his bond with him. but after venom decided to leave him eddie was so convinced he has cancer now that his body was convinced actually giving him cancer.
comics !!
so Eddie was gaslighted into cancer? peak comic moment
I have a feeling Harry will probably get the anti venom in Spiderman 3.
And cure his father of the goblin serum
Hope not
i hope will not
I hope Harry can wield the Agent Venom symbiote again. That was sick.
@Ultimate_Omni_10yeah Peter already goes through too much, atleast let him keep a Symbiote to make his life easier.
I still don't understand why can't Insomniac's Peter just give Harry the Anti-Venom symbiote after their final battle since it can literally cure him. And also it's not like Peter needs it, since he's considering retiring.
I think he can't take it of because is fused to him
Plus i dont think peter knows the anti venom suit has healing powers, just really effective against other symbiotes, have we actually seen him heal?, Cause if did, my bad i didnt know.
True
The anti-venom symbiote is a bond of the symbiote and Peter's white blood cells, so it's connected to him and will almost immediately die if taken off Peter from what I've heard. Also, this symbiote functions similarly to a white blood cell, it can kill diseases, pathogens, and foreign body substances such as venom and radiation, but cannot heal injuries or body malfunctions, and considering that Harry got brain damage, the anti-venom healing powers cannot restore him.
@@janmarcouy7629we haven’t
now do a video about uncle venom, i love him! Best marble character!
whenever venom 3 comes out, i hope hes one of the symbiotes
You forgot about Silence after Scream got badly injured by Carnage Andi used Anti Venom to bonded with rest parts of Scream she became Silence and Scream was no more she didn't have mind on her own anymore
anti-venom is generally depicted as less physically strong then venom, it also can be killed by venom (or supposedly another symbiote) covering the anti-venom host (spider island). I wouldn't say its stronger then standard Venom, its probably on-parr. calling anti-venom "him" makes little sense as its literally mindless (unlike venom), it can't think for itself at all, in most depictions i'm pretty sure it just turns to goo when separated from a host unlike normal symbiotes which can still move. also the anti-venom bonded to flash was a different one then Eddie's (it was made from the Eddie's though), they had the same general powers.
I love antivenom. Tbh, my favorite symbiote, even if it lacks personality.
I love how they decided to call it “anti-venom” instead of the more fitting “antidote”
Maybe carnage and goblin will fuse to become red goblin near the end of the next game.
That would definitely be interesting and hype to play, but I think most people wouldn’t want the third (and probably final game) to be another symbiote story. So we’ll see
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Me, an Informed Intellectual: "Not in Insomniac's universe, it ain't."
I think it sounds kind of cool. It sounds a lot more better than regular venom. But I doubt he will ever come out. That would be cool if he actually next was Spider-Man. Why would you ever want to give up that power? There are no drawbacks to that power whatsoever. It would just make him 10 times better.
Toxin is so strong that both Venom and Carnage fear him anything that that psychopath Carnage fears must be deadly as hell. Anti venom would eventually die unless Spiderman joined in to help him.
Nice video man it is pretty cool they introduced anti venom into the Spiderman game
Anti venom is me favourite symbiote ngl brilliant video 👍🏻
Very interesting bro thanks for the vid
Anti Venom took out a herd of Carnage by himself on ultimate spider man so yes anti venom would win
I think, the one who is going to win.. is the one the WRITER WANTS TO WIN
-Stan Lee
Oh, that's really cool, tbh. I didn't know anything about Anti-Venom, so when I saw Martin Li put his power inside Peter, I just assumed that this was a completely different origin for Anti-Venom.
Well it depends
In strength, Anti-Venom is relative to Venom, as Anti-Venom is a hybrid between the Venom Symbiote and white blood cells brought together by Martin Li’s light energy
It’s true that Anti-Venom could weaken and harm Symbiote’s to the touch, even if they employ Symbiote weapons in their attacks
However it’s weakness that using its antibodies for healing depletes its substance
Overusing it’s heal/purge ability would leave the host vulnerable to attack, as it happens to Flash Thompson vs Red Goblin
In addition Carnage has a high regeneration factor among Symbiotes, making Carnage hard to kill
In right circumstances Anti-Venom may beat Carnage, but Carnage with their high regeneration may outlast Anti-Venom if their substance depletes
Still Anti-Venom does have an advantage to most Symbiotes
To make it clear, when there negative then theres positive
So theres Anti-Venom, Agent Anti-Venom, Silence, Anti-Carnage and Misery. I'm pretty sure that all the "Anti-Symbiotes" as i call them but there can possibly be more, endless possibilities with the Anti-Venom serum fused to any other symbiote.
I think misery is anti carnage
@user-zd1ww9kf6n well Anti-Carnage was the unofficial nickname given to Rascal before his origins were revealed. The true Anti-Carnage is an alternate reality of Cletus Kasady turning good and the Carnage symbiote turning into Anti-Carnage most likely the same way Anti-Venom was created. Misery is more of a hybrid of Carnage and Anti-Venom with the two symbiotes bonded to one host constantly killing each other and regenerating themselves.
It's awesome to know Insomniac Peter now has additional power boost which is the anti-venom where he now equivalent or better than Miles in terms of power boost just don't know how insomniac is gonna make Cindy Moon be equal to Peter and Miles in terms of power in Spider Man 3.
Anti venom is my favourite hands down brilliant video👍🏻
He is my fav symbiotie
For my own spider man that I will create a official spider man, he will wear the anti venom symbiote as his new suit like Peter wearing the venom suit
I really wish for the symbiote surge on the anti venom suit, it got its own alternate style.
There’s so much that is left to speculate about the symbiote after the ending like I want to know if the anti venom suit that Peter wears in the game is a symbiote because we don’t see it with a mind of its own and try to speak to Peter.
Now with venom it seems like he’s dead in the game but people have seen that when venoms tongue gets chopped off by kraven it’s still writhing and very much alive so there could be a chance that before the venom attached to harry dies that the tongue found another host maybe Eddie Brock and learns how to control it since it would be weaker than the one on harry.
Lastly with harry in a coma he technically should still have a piece of venom still left in his body somewhere unless Peter got rid of it all.
All in all the ending to the game was awesome they really wanted to leave so many open plot points to continue with in the next game or dlc which it might be carnage or chameleon or both, really hoping that somehow they make venom playable in the dlc as we only got a snippet of his gameplay near the end of the game.
Agent Anti Venom is very cool
symbiotes are marvels super saiyan lol
The strongest Symbiote is actually just a sword
Said sword was used to cut a Celestial's head off and later used to kill Gods.
I know what you talking about but all symbiotes actually have the capability of becoming necro swords.
Carnage in the current story: “Are you sure about that?!”
It met Anti Venom for the first time through the game SpiderMan Edge of Time
If you are wondering why Peter couldn't take Venom alone even with antivenom,its like pokemon,its not because level 50 Blastoise is a water type that he can beat a level 100 Charizard
Hey bro you misspelled symbiote on your thumbnail, just a heads up
Man the symbiote is op it heals illnesses gets rid of powers and is even op if it wasn’t for the limits of the symbiote it could have went toe to toe with knull
Yes in the end plot killed Anti-Venom
Eddie lost his Anti-Venom, sacrificing his power to save New York from the Spider Island Epidemic
Flash died as Anti-Venom, because Red Goblin took advantage of his compassion
Physically Flash should have easily defeat Red Goblin
But Red Goblin kept hurting Miles Molares, Silk and others, making Flash spread out his Anti-Venom thin healing others, making not enough Anti-Venom for Flash to fight back or heal himself when Red Goblin attacks him
By the time Red Goblin finished Flash off later, there wasn’t enough Anti-Venom to save him
So yah otherwise Anti-Venom could have easily take on any Symbiote, including Knull’s Necrosword and maybe Knull himself
Confirmed we getting red goblin on spiderman 3
Guys whats the strongest symbiote
I made Quiz on who the OG host is
U made a little error in ur tumbnail, u wrote ''symboite'' but it should have been ''symbiote''. I just wanted to inform u, don't take this the wrong way.
People who've seen marvels ultimate Spider-Man and Anti-Venom vs Agent Venom
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My only problem with anti-venom is his design I mean it looks great but for what anti-venom is I just don’t think it fits him. Like if I have to choose between Dr. venom and Dr. antivenom I would choose Dr. venom. Yeah he looks like he’s about to bite my head off but Dr. antivenom looks like he’s gonna cut me open eat my organs suck my soul my body to eat my soul then bite my head off. It’s still a cool design though.
The Anti-vemon suit is the best
I think ur audio is a lil low, nice vid tho
Honestly harry might be agent anti venom in the next game-I haven’t watched the full video btw
So in the game, Peter could heal Harry without giving up the suit right?
cause Spiderman being in possession of the antivenom suit is probably his best upgrade ever
Possibly. But i dont know if peter knows that it can heals just yet.
@marktime7692 maybe in this game its not the exact same as the one in the comics, cause anti venom usually seeks out diseases to heal, like its a snack. Well gotta wait now for the DLCs 😔
In theory. Honestly he could have probably just given Harry the suit and it would have had the same effect. Harry would be healed, have his powers, and everything would be cool
@fist-of-doom487 yeah i guess that can work too, but then we might not see him on that "G serum".
I dunno the thought that spidey has a symbiote that he can fully control and give him a big power boost is awesome, its nice to see him have a more organic upgrade then some high tech suit and gadgets imo
@@Lord_Xenothat could be a possibility because after all Insomniac Venom is fire proof.
eddie did hot take spidermans power but he removed all the venom symbiotes because spiderman was also a host of venom
True but while he was doing that he sensed the radiation in his blood due to the spider bite and tried to erase that too. But Spider-Man was able to get out in time
Anti venom vs King of symbiotes
That even a question?
Well ir depends in hoat obviously
I propose that we name him Avenom now, cuze it's too long to say "Anti-Venom" or "Agent Anti-Venom". Let's say like Rhulk for Red Hulk, it's better to use !
And even if Avenom is strong as fuck, I think Toxin is strong enough to take him down, never forget that Toxin is the strongest known symbiote out there
The main protagonist?
Anit-Venom underused and weak in the Spiderman 2 I mean i havent read much comics of it but I have seen Ultimate Spider-Man where Anti Venom Fought Harry (Venom) and just scratched him and he was in coma for days.
Sorry but venom doesn’t feed off there host, why would they kill off what they need to survive
I believe toxin would win that fight. He’s the child of carnage, and the spawn of a symbiot is stronger than the parent and is more resistant to previous weaknesses, so although antivenon has the anti-symbiote edge, he’s about as strong as venom sense he’s technically apart of venom, so carnage would be stronger and a little resistant to antivenom, which would make toxin even more powerful than carnage
But isn't toxin a good guy?
As much as I like anti venom I really hate his design, not only does it manage to look too evil for what it is, but it’s kinda just plain ugly
I think the reason why spider man 2 anti venom was weak cause if he had actually tried to cleanse venom harry would have probably gotten completely decimated
Toxin, Carnage and Venom would most probably win. Venom would probably die in this fight, Carnage would be left very weak and Toxin would be kinda ok. Anti-Venom would unfortunately die because of the power of three symbiotes together, especially the power of the most powerful symbiote Toxin (leaving all black and King in Black Venom outside of the list) being against him.
My biggest annoyance with Spiderman PS5 is that Peter doesn't even try to give the Anti-Venom symbiote to Harry
Very good point tbh. I just think honestly Peter didn’t think of it because his suit doesn’t have a mind on it’s on. And I wonder in the next game I wonder what they’re do. I’m sure Peter will try to help him next game but honestly he probably didn’t think of it because the anti venom suit is different.
@@amgweboz7690 considering Peter didn’t give it up I wonder if he’s going to keep it moving into the next game because that’s going to have interesting story implications especially since Norman is on his villain arc after the events of this game
@@fist-of-doom487 I hope he keeps the suit tbh. Lmao I mean they don’t want to make the characters op. But no reason to take it away from him. And honestly that be awesome if the suit changes to a different suit design. But actually remember he is taking a break so they might find a way to take it from him. I just want him to keep it. If he doesn’t I be like they killing him off 😭😭
I don't think he can give it to him?
@@amgweboz7690 I thought of this recently but since theirs some surviving Symbiotes I hope they make a return in a following game. Especially the Carnage Symbiote because Red Goblin would be a very thematic final boss
Venom ez claps anti venom
his mouth and eyes should be blue instead of red or yellow
agent anti venom sounds better
And is more powerful than regular Anti-Venom
@@BSM-vw6cfis he?
No
No bro it isn’t Symbiote it’s symbeit
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your talking voice is NOT always clear, dude. not all what you're saying, that i can hear...some sounds like you're whispering, some you talk like too fast, others, not clear....
Thanks for the feedback, yeah i definitely have to work and get better on my recording/speaking voice. But i appreciate the criticism!