Regarding the seventh gate. I found going for the delirium map crafting option to be strictly better. It is obviously 2c cheaper, but more importantly there are way more nodes affecting the chance for a sacred grove to spawn compared to a mirror of delirium of up to 35% vs 12% respectively.
Basically there are more nodes on the atlas skill tree that increase the chance to spawn a sacred grove compared to spawning a delirium mirror. Therefore, its more beneficial to force a delirium mirror spawn via the 7th gate than a harvest. @@mortiferozgaming2281
This is great! Especially for those who are on the more casual side and don't have the gear requirements to do the crazy juicing everyone is hyping up! Great vid, liked and subscribed! Looking forward to more awesome content!
ppl usually dont sit through longer videos these days but they are doing themselves disfavor, cus i learnt alot from you in one vid that i havnt learnt in playing POE on & off since 2013! thank you. ❤
thanks for being so thorough in your guide!! i find that a lot of guides on youtube are hard to follow for a newbie like myself, so i really appreciate you taking the time to spell things out! keep up the great work, i look forward to your future videos!
Thx bro, for the great content you are providing. The strategy works perfect! You're are absolutely right with the juicy streamers making people overdoing and overthinkinh things. Happened to me too :D
I’m going to try this for a while. I’ve been trying the typical magic find wandering path cannot afford all the extra juice. Or, at least, I feel like I can’t. Therefore, I have just been spitting my wheels not really gaining much wealth. This looks like a solid constant progression for somebody who is too new and risk adverse to be spending one to two divines per map.
I've always taken the block mechanic nodes, but I've been basically exclusively running memories this league and honestly I don't the random untargeted mechanics showing up, but I would probably at least block the time consuming ones like expedition, but random breaches, rituals, and abysses just add so many mobs your map
Hey, I like the video I decided to go with the seventh gate option. Are you supposed to force the harvest? We have the points in deli mirror chance so I assume yes? Also do you chisel your maps and alch them?
I would say blocking other league mechs would be worth it if you don't spend the 10c for deli on the map device, making it way more likely to hit. If you're paying 10c a map there's really no reason to block stuff imo, unless you can't walk past it for some compulsive reason.
Well without using sextants you can only force one thing and with stream of consciousness it would raise the odds even higher of the 2nd non-forced thing to spawn, since the “other content” would almost solely be delirium/harvest. It really is kind of up in the air if its worth it or not. If i was ONLY running harvest and delirium it would be, but if I wanted to spend the pts on something like essence i would skip it and spend it there
I've played POE for years but only as the filthyiest of casuals. This is the first farming "strategy" I've ever tried. It really friggin works, and it's easy enough for my lazy ass to succeed with... Neat, thanks for your help, and for making me a pro gamer...
It is stated by nearly everyone who makes content that harvest in red maps with the increased chance for bosses to spawn gives 500-600 essence per, so harvest is explicitly worse in early maps. Also, juicing quant (except for wisps) explicitly increases the amount of seeds they drop. Literally the opposite of "no juice"
Literally the difference between having to juice and not having to juice for a strategy to be profitable . In the video I plainly state that running the wildwood will help quantity on the harvest but the strategy is very profitable without it
Should i make the changes to my atlas tree before having unlocked all the maps? Is there any advantage to actually unlocking all maps if im just le a rning this gane still?
When it comes to horicrafting the orbs, are you doing them in stacks or singles ? I've been trying both and singles seems to be better. You can get lucky and get 2-3 skittering or diviners with 500-600 juice. But waste 500 juice with one stack....
i been doing destructive play keystone to farm boss maps + harvest. i wonder if i can mix it with this strategy, i have all the atlas points available so i will definitely try because i had no idea deli orbs were this expensive. im actually using crop rotation just because is hella fun and the dopamine injection when you hit big is great. i actually learned it from a past video of yours and now i learn about deli orbs. thank you so much man, i wish you the best and keep it up!
Is having the void stones unlocked a hard requirement? It did not sound like it is necessary unless you want to use the compasses is that correct? Thank you so much for this awesome guide!
I would suggest getting at least 1 voidstone and using the harvest lifeforce compass, but its not mandatory. You unlock voidstones 1 at a time from boss kills. (eater of worlds, and searing exarch are the easiest to get to. You will get a quest for them soon after doing maps you can follow)
@@safeontalk OK sounds good! I am about halfway through the Atlas right now and I’m just farming essence and strong boxes as I clear the atlas. But I think once I clear the atlas I’m going to follow your guide here looks like a really fun way to farm and a good strategy to follow for endgame, thank you so much for the quick response!
Descent into Madness and the surrounding small nodes can brick some maps by going to 100% delirious around the boss, and by that point it takes forever to kill anything, definitely not worth it. If you're running very short map though this might be good.
Just a quick note. There is no need right now to try and swap to Diviner orbs using harvest. All deli orbs, outside of skittering, are selling for over 30c a pop. I just sold 56 random deli orbs for 8 div!
Lookin like other orbs are going for 16-20c Per, Diviners goes for about 30-32. So I think re-rolling it is still the play unless maybe you are selling them in crazy bulk, which is also an option. I dont like including TFT unless I REEEEALLY have to haha.
@@safeontalk Do not use POEninja prices as they have not caught up to the market yet. If you go on to TFT every orb, no matter the type, is over 30c. I understand not wanting to deal with them but there are so many buyers they sell INSTANTLY. And you don't need crazy bulk either, as I said I just sold 56 for 8d. The market is crazy right now, but I don't know how long it will last.
@@safeontalkI was in the situation yesterday and honestly on trade no one responded for less than 30c for the cheapest orb in bulk. I don't argument that others are selling for even more tho
@@safeontalk Totally understand not including TFT, however it 100% will make you more money when you are selling these orbs. As someone who is buying them to fuel my maps, I and many other players will buy them at 130% - 180% of their poe ninja price. Any any all orbs all done in 1 big trade. They are in such high demand right now and they will continue to rise in price until they are the same cost as the mirror compass. Probably still worth rerolling for diviners just because they cost more and so have a higher base price. Juicers won't care what orb they are though so can either re-roll the orbs or just sell the harvest juice.
Hey Safe, why didn't you include Compulsive Hoarder and Delusions of Persecution on the non-7th gate tree? The extra rewards one seems like it'd be worthwhile
Not sure why you recommend taking the Pathological node and the small passive next to it. It doesn't make your map harder, it just gives you a small chance to drop maps that's already have a random deli orb applied to them (eg map drops with 20% deli on it). The drop rate is low and what's the point in running 20% random deli maps that most likely don't have the layout you want? I'd unspec those, save 2 points and put somewhere else... For fast, low investment, I very much recommend blocking all league mechanics, except the ones you're running. Also, consider Stream of Consciousness because combined with blocking, it makes the league mechs you want to appear really, really frequent. Don't waste 10-12c on map device deli/harvest, rather run Essences with 7gate for 2c in addition... incredibly profitable (use elevated essemce sextant later, once you can afford it).
Clarification (typing on the phone, early in the morning is haaaard): Use the elevated essence sextant in addition to the 2c you spend on the map device for extra essence. If your build is reasonably fast (even 2-3 min per map), you'll make 7-9 div / hour just on the essences alone... I know because that's how i farmed over 250 div, my HH this league (deli + essence + exarch on t16 scoured Strand maps with only 20% quality - aka chiseled).
* without intreacting with the league mech at all (so you can very reliability reproduce it next league ; even if overall prices are less, you'll still easily get ~7div / hour from the combined start... very likely more and excluding the bunch of additional lucky drops might get... div cards and rare cluster jewels that sell for 1-9div)
Maybe a noob question (but hey, I'm a noob so it makes sense). You said quantity and all was impactful, does that mean i should always alchemy + vaal my maps, even if Im doing them on lower tiers ? (currently farming strand 6 here). Thanks for the video, this community is so helpful to clarify the most complex game I've ever played.
This is my 2nd league in and i love the game but i also hate it 😂 For atlas... Im running legion, strong box and harbinger (might drop harbinger not sure). Legion emblems is decent money if you do it and sell since for me map tier has nothing on legion to me. Strong boxes is nice as well, i had a few cases i get the explosion thingy woth scarabs. Oh I also run ambush thats 4 chaos for the extra strong boxes i typically make my 4 chaos or more like 1 divine if lucky. Harbinger tho... I like it but it drops a shyt ton of useless shards. You gwt at minimum 4 chaos shards at least for me so far.. 😅 im chasing mirror shard dream to sell. As for the juicing bit, from what I've seen and what i personally test as a casual who isnt online for extreme hours. Always do woodland if you can at least 2-3k wisps. (wont always get that much or sometimes more). Anything below 4k wispnos doable for most builds and in my case i can manage 5k tho oll burn a few portals anything above that you need a expensive build... I got 8k and a basic mob 1 shot me with 3.5k es and it had life regen. Thats my experience for the 3 or 4 weeks now I'm into this new league
I just use neversinks semi-strict filter when I do this strat. If you google filterblade youll find the site and its pretty easy to sync with your account
This league has sucked for me, bullet sponge league, dump damage into things and nothing dies. No league mechanic, bam, everything dies. Going to try out this strategy. Thanks, you make great videos.
This is the league for delirium, selling all the deli orbs to the juicers for 10-15x the price in past leagues is probably one of the more profitable things you can do now. Be smart, don't be the meta, but sell to the meta slaves.
This has to be one of the worst league designs they have ever done. I am not talking about rewards. I am talking about the actual interaction with the mechanic. It is so wildly inconsistent. With the margin between being able to get enough wisps in maps and not being able to massive. So it really skews the reward curve for a lot of people. Whereas at least with ToTa and Sanctum if you put in the time you will end up near the average output. Nothing like watching a div get flushed because it loaded you into a dead end with only one way to go and less than 1000 wisps on the way. I really hope they don't make this core in any way other than the rucksack and maybe the jewels. Though I have to admit it's nice get suppression on the charms to free up some skill points.
The charms would be great if they stayed, even in a nerfed state (like maybe 1 charm), but no theres not a chance wisps go core, or if they do in any way it will be nerfed i to the ground haha
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Regarding the seventh gate. I found going for the delirium map crafting option to be strictly better. It is obviously 2c cheaper, but more importantly there are way more nodes affecting the chance for a sacred grove to spawn compared to a mirror of delirium of up to 35% vs 12% respectively.
Can u explain your strat a bit better ? Didn’t really get what you mean.
Basically there are more nodes on the atlas skill tree that increase the chance to spawn a sacred grove compared to spawning a delirium mirror. Therefore, its more beneficial to force a delirium mirror spawn via the 7th gate than a harvest. @@mortiferozgaming2281
@@mortiferozgaming2281 He is using The Seventh Gate in the Atlas passive skill tree to get the delirium map option in the Map Receptacle
As a newish player overwhelmed by the whole 'juicing' I greatly appreciate this!
Easy juicing! Then proceeds to show the most convoluted thing ever
Just don't worry too much about juicing maps. Get a decent atlas tree with Abyss and just colect whisps and run the maps.
This is great! Especially for those who are on the more casual side and don't have the gear requirements to do the crazy juicing everyone is hyping up! Great vid, liked and subscribed! Looking forward to more awesome content!
ppl usually dont sit through longer videos these days but they are doing themselves disfavor, cus i learnt alot from you in one vid that i havnt learnt in playing POE on & off since 2013! thank you. ❤
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thanks for being so thorough in your guide!! i find that a lot of guides on youtube are hard to follow for a newbie like myself, so i really appreciate you taking the time to spell things out! keep up the great work, i look forward to your future videos!
Really enjoy your guides. Especially as a new player, cos you explain small details that a lot of other creators gloss over sometimes.
changed my atlas to this yesterday morning and have gotten 5 raw divines drops in addition to everything else. thanks my dude. :)
Thx bro, for the great content you are providing. The strategy works perfect! You're are absolutely right with the juicy streamers making people overdoing and overthinkinh things. Happened to me too :D
I watch a lot of POE videos but yours seem like the best to me. Thank you so much, I learn a lot with you fam.
I’m going to try this for a while. I’ve been trying the typical magic find wandering path cannot afford all the extra juice. Or, at least, I feel like I can’t. Therefore, I have just been spitting my wheels not really gaining much wealth. This looks like a solid constant progression for somebody who is too new and risk adverse to be spending one to two divines per map.
Dude, I've been watching your guides since I returned back playing. It is the most in depth and newbie friendly at the same time.
I've always taken the block mechanic nodes, but I've been basically exclusively running memories this league and honestly I don't the random untargeted mechanics showing up, but I would probably at least block the time consuming ones like expedition, but random breaches, rituals, and abysses just add so many mobs your map
very well explained. ty sir.
For anyone playing any of the Chaos/Poison DOT builds, you dont want exarch, though. Downsides are really hard on us. Better to grab eater.
I only played poisen for thr last 3 leagues and i had no problems. Whats it that about them that you find hard dealing with?
How are you sustaining your maps with this atlas tree?
Hey, I like the video I decided to go with the seventh gate option. Are you supposed to force the harvest? We have the points in deli mirror chance so I assume yes? Also do you chisel your maps and alch them?
I would say blocking other league mechs would be worth it if you don't spend the 10c for deli on the map device, making it way more likely to hit.
If you're paying 10c a map there's really no reason to block stuff imo, unless you can't walk past it for some compulsive reason.
Well without using sextants you can only force one thing and with stream of consciousness it would raise the odds even higher of the 2nd non-forced thing to spawn, since the “other content” would almost solely be delirium/harvest. It really is kind of up in the air if its worth it or not.
If i was ONLY running harvest and delirium it would be, but if I wanted to spend the pts on something like essence i would skip it and spend it there
I've played POE for years but only as the filthyiest of casuals. This is the first farming "strategy" I've ever tried. It really friggin works, and it's easy enough for my lazy ass to succeed with... Neat, thanks for your help, and for making me a pro gamer...
I have some spare point, what should I invent in Atlas tree? I got tired of juiced abyss maps
It is stated by nearly everyone who makes content that harvest in red maps with the increased chance for bosses to spawn gives 500-600 essence per, so harvest is explicitly worse in early maps. Also, juicing quant (except for wisps) explicitly increases the amount of seeds they drop.
Literally the opposite of "no juice"
Literally the difference between having to juice and not having to juice for a strategy to be profitable . In the video I plainly state that running the wildwood will help quantity on the harvest but the strategy is very profitable without it
Are we getting the money from deli orbs (skittering) and harvest lifeforce right?
Now if there's something I waited was this. No fucking juicing.
Should i make the changes to my atlas tree before having unlocked all the maps? Is there any advantage to actually unlocking all maps if im just le a rning this gane still?
Unending nightmare can be profitable if you care about cluster jewels you get way more of them / map if you allocate the keystone.
This late in the league, jewels aren't anywhere near as profitable as deli orbs. Not even close.
First few days they'd probably be somewhat similar
When it comes to horicrafting the orbs, are you doing them in stacks or singles ?
I've been trying both and singles seems to be better. You can get lucky and get 2-3 skittering or diviners with 500-600 juice. But waste 500 juice with one stack....
I usually do em in stacks of 2. Seems to work well.
@@safeontalkthanks!!! And keep up the great work!
i been doing destructive play keystone to farm boss maps + harvest. i wonder if i can mix it with this strategy, i have all the atlas points available so i will definitely try because i had no idea deli orbs were this expensive. im actually using crop rotation just because is hella fun and the dopamine injection when you hit big is great. i actually learned it from a past video of yours and now i learn about deli orbs. thank you so much man, i wish you the best and keep it up!
Is having the void stones unlocked a hard requirement? It did not sound like it is necessary unless you want to use the compasses is that correct? Thank you so much for this awesome guide!
I would suggest getting at least 1 voidstone and using the harvest lifeforce compass, but its not mandatory. You unlock voidstones 1 at a time from boss kills. (eater of worlds, and searing exarch are the easiest to get to. You will get a quest for them soon after doing maps you can follow)
@@safeontalk OK sounds good! I am about halfway through the Atlas right now and I’m just farming essence and strong boxes as I clear the atlas. But I think once I clear the atlas I’m going to follow your guide here looks like a really fun way to farm and a good strategy to follow for endgame, thank you so much for the quick response!
If have 6 favor slots for maps is that enough?
Fast build recommendation to rush some Deliriums?
Descent into Madness and the surrounding small nodes can brick some maps by going to 100% delirious around the boss, and by that point it takes forever to kill anything, definitely not worth it. If you're running very short map though this might be good.
Yea basically. Not worth the time and deaths haha
Just a quick note. There is no need right now to try and swap to Diviner orbs using harvest. All deli orbs, outside of skittering, are selling for over 30c a pop. I just sold 56 random deli orbs for 8 div!
Lookin like other orbs are going for 16-20c Per, Diviners goes for about 30-32. So I think re-rolling it is still the play unless maybe you are selling them in crazy bulk, which is also an option. I dont like including TFT unless I REEEEALLY have to haha.
@@safeontalk Do not use POEninja prices as they have not caught up to the market yet. If you go on to TFT every orb, no matter the type, is over 30c. I understand not wanting to deal with them but there are so many buyers they sell INSTANTLY. And you don't need crazy bulk either, as I said I just sold 56 for 8d. The market is crazy right now, but I don't know how long it will last.
@@safeontalkI was in the situation yesterday and honestly on trade no one responded for less than 30c for the cheapest orb in bulk. I don't argument that others are selling for even more tho
@@safeontalk Totally understand not including TFT, however it 100% will make you more money when you are selling these orbs. As someone who is buying them to fuel my maps, I and many other players will buy them at 130% - 180% of their poe ninja price. Any any all orbs all done in 1 big trade. They are in such high demand right now and they will continue to rise in price until they are the same cost as the mirror compass.
Probably still worth rerolling for diviners just because they cost more and so have a higher base price. Juicers won't care what orb they are though so can either re-roll the orbs or just sell the harvest juice.
@@safeontalk yup. and also we have our own farmed juice to switch so good to have it like that :)
Hey Safe, why didn't you include Compulsive Hoarder and Delusions of Persecution on the non-7th gate tree? The extra rewards one seems like it'd be worthwhile
What do you mean by blue number? There is no visual difference between the two harvest nodes from what I can tell. THanks.
If you have guaranteed monsters that will drop lifeforce they will be at the bottom and have a blue’ish tint to then instead of white
Is the additional reward types delirium wheel not worth it?? (compulsive hoarder)
Not sure why you recommend taking the Pathological node and the small passive next to it. It doesn't make your map harder, it just gives you a small chance to drop maps that's already have a random deli orb applied to them (eg map drops with 20% deli on it). The drop rate is low and what's the point in running 20% random deli maps that most likely don't have the layout you want? I'd unspec those, save 2 points and put somewhere else...
For fast, low investment, I very much recommend blocking all league mechanics, except the ones you're running. Also, consider Stream of Consciousness because combined with blocking, it makes the league mechs you want to appear really, really frequent. Don't waste 10-12c on map device deli/harvest, rather run Essences with 7gate for 2c in addition... incredibly profitable (use elevated essemce sextant later, once you can afford it).
Clarification (typing on the phone, early in the morning is haaaard): Use the elevated essence sextant in addition to the 2c you spend on the map device for extra essence. If your build is reasonably fast (even 2-3 min per map), you'll make 7-9 div / hour just on the essences alone... I know because that's how i farmed over 250 div, my HH this league (deli + essence + exarch on t16 scoured Strand maps with only 20% quality - aka chiseled).
* without intreacting with the league mech at all (so you can very reliability reproduce it next league ; even if overall prices are less, you'll still easily get ~7div / hour from the combined start... very likely more and excluding the bunch of additional lucky drops might get... div cards and rare cluster jewels that sell for 1-9div)
I do recommend stream of consciousness. I say that in the video and have it in both trees in the atlas links haha.
@khathuluu can you share your atlas tree? Thinking about adding essence since I want to start to craft my gear.
Do I use white strand or am I gone alch it and run them rare ?
Bro, you just made my league with that sextant strategy, thank you so much!
Maybe a noob question (but hey, I'm a noob so it makes sense). You said quantity and all was impactful, does that mean i should always alchemy + vaal my maps, even if Im doing them on lower tiers ? (currently farming strand 6 here).
Thanks for the video, this community is so helpful to clarify the most complex game I've ever played.
Alch is always good.However I personally wouldn't corrupt non-red maps, you'll go through your orbs in 2 hours
@@AwesomeNuke Thanks, I did indeed run out of reds :')
Love your content
Is delirium farming worthwhile on low tier maps? Tier
Yep you can do it on lower tier maps :)
@@safeontalk Thanks! I've found ~10 del orbs running T
idk if i miss it, but what about the profit? your video is very thorough but without knowing the returns its kinda pointless
If I had to ballpark it I would say 4-7Div an hour depending on drops. Maybe closer to 6-8 because of skittering deli. orb prices
@@safeontalk thank you! but for this kind of vids the profit is really important, or like showing your loot after x amount of runs
This is my 2nd league in and i love the game but i also hate it 😂
For atlas... Im running legion, strong box and harbinger (might drop harbinger not sure).
Legion emblems is decent money if you do it and sell since for me map tier has nothing on legion to me.
Strong boxes is nice as well, i had a few cases i get the explosion thingy woth scarabs. Oh I also run ambush thats 4 chaos for the extra strong boxes i typically make my 4 chaos or more like 1 divine if lucky.
Harbinger tho... I like it but it drops a shyt ton of useless shards. You gwt at minimum 4 chaos shards at least for me so far.. 😅 im chasing mirror shard dream to sell.
As for the juicing bit, from what I've seen and what i personally test as a casual who isnt online for extreme hours. Always do woodland if you can at least 2-3k wisps. (wont always get that much or sometimes more).
Anything below 4k wispnos doable for most builds and in my case i can manage 5k tho oll burn a few portals anything above that you need a expensive build... I got 8k and a basic mob 1 shot me with 3.5k es and it had life regen.
Thats my experience for the 3 or 4 weeks now I'm into this new league
Would there be a chance to share the loot filter?
For this I usually just use the “strict” default filter at filterblade
can you add your filter to your strat videos? I would really appreciate that
I just use neversinks semi-strict filter when I do this strat. If you google filterblade youll find the site and its pretty easy to sync with your account
GoodJob!
how do you map sustain , can we use singular focus ?
I've put strand in all favourites except of 1 slot. 1 slot is fields. Get maps somehow
@@ТимофейЛобков i know but without singular focus , maps drop are not as frequent
What's the atlas tree for MF with this strat?
Both of em are in the description
Ah, another league another long awaited video lol :D
Is the only way to reset your atlas tree using the orbs? there's no reset the entire tree button? lol
unfortunately no thats your only option :-/
Uh oh you have to grind for and use something in a grinding game who'd have thought
finally a video that we desperately needed
This league has sucked for me, bullet sponge league, dump damage into things and nothing dies. No league mechanic, bam, everything dies. Going to try out this strategy. Thanks, you make great videos.
Yo!!! Already making $$$. Thank you!
League mech is busted with MF
The background music is really scary and ominous D:
It was too quiet during my videos months ago and i googled free ambient cave sounds and ive been using it ever since hahaha
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This is the league for delirium, selling all the deli orbs to the juicers for 10-15x the price in past leagues is probably one of the more profitable things you can do now. Be smart, don't be the meta, but sell to the meta slaves.
They have to throw at us from time to time this type of juicing league..If Affliction was another off map league people would go nuts on Reddit lol
The best kind od League 😎
This has to be one of the worst league designs they have ever done. I am not talking about rewards. I am talking about the actual interaction with the mechanic. It is so wildly inconsistent. With the margin between being able to get enough wisps in maps and not being able to massive. So it really skews the reward curve for a lot of people. Whereas at least with ToTa and Sanctum if you put in the time you will end up near the average output. Nothing like watching a div get flushed because it loaded you into a dead end with only one way to go and less than 1000 wisps on the way.
I really hope they don't make this core in any way other than the rucksack and maybe the jewels. Though I have to admit it's nice get suppression on the charms to free up some skill points.
The charms would be great if they stayed, even in a nerfed state (like maybe 1 charm), but no theres not a chance wisps go core, or if they do in any way it will be nerfed i to the ground haha