Making Thumbscrews: Interrupted cutting and threading on the mini lathe

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  • Making thumbscrews for the rear cover of the mini lathe. Please like and subscribe if this was helpful! (MUCH) More information below!
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ความคิดเห็น • 109

  • @carmineriganti2333
    @carmineriganti2333 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    At first I didn't understand why the drilling, then I saw the genius in you.

  • @MachiningwithJoe
    @MachiningwithJoe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video dude. Really good idea in drilling and turning to make the grip of the thumb screw.

  • @danjohnson6292
    @danjohnson6292 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I enjoyed watching your thought process for laying out the screws. Fun lil project

    • @TimNummy
      @TimNummy  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! :)

  • @tattoos1988
    @tattoos1988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quality idea on making the thumb grip mate great little project thanks for sharing stay safe and healthy god bless

  • @flatheadronsgarage7345
    @flatheadronsgarage7345 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quick fun project. Thanks Tim. I’m a beginner so this is good to get some OJT experience and brain juices flowing.

  • @clydebalcom8252
    @clydebalcom8252 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My best advice is to write everything down. Keep a machine journal for all your projects.

  • @mcgam2000
    @mcgam2000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    About the first or second time I did this I knew the size by sight and by feel.... years of experience makes those jobs easier...

  • @thatguythatdoesstuff7448
    @thatguythatdoesstuff7448 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I like the project. Good learning experience. I think I would use a couple longer cap screws, machine the aluminum handles, and press fit the cap screws into the aluminum handles. Could be a non-issue, but if you're removing the cover often, aluminum threads aren't that durable and are a bit prone to galling.
    Either way, great work.

    • @TimNummy
      @TimNummy  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah for sure, there are definitely better options... I just wanted something to make :)

    • @TimNummy
      @TimNummy  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching!

  • @trevorsmales9303
    @trevorsmales9303 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice idea to make thumbscrews ;)
    Personally I would probably have made just the knobs and fitted them to threaded rod or if doing this way used a center as others have already said.

    • @iamtheomega
      @iamtheomega 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      was thinking same, as long as he's ginger with those threads they'll last (forever) though

  • @roleic7246
    @roleic7246 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    what you mentioned is called a "work holding" problem. 1. counter measure is to drill center holes in both ends. And then use the tail stock with a live centre to stabilize the end of the work. 2. If the thin middle part still bows under the cutting force then you would use the "follow rest" which is fixed to the carrige and supports the work directly behind and below the cutter. Probably a follow rest did not come with the small lathe. But you can make it your self. Search in youtube and you will find several DIY projects for that.
    Often you can recognize the beginner from the advanced or pro machinists in their work holding. It is less obvious for the beginner but by making experiences as you just did you will become more aware of it and learn and catch up to the pros.

  • @Mentartice2
    @Mentartice2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am a German and the lack of accuracy in this lathe disgusts me. Such a nice video series and even if it's not really accurate, it's fun to see you working with it.

    • @TimNummy
      @TimNummy  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha thank you - sorry to offend your German precision

    • @Mentartice2
      @Mentartice2 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wirklich jetzt? Sorry wollte dich nicht verletzten hab nur spaß machen wollen. Mich gleich Spinner zu nennen weil du meinen Joke nicht verstehst zeigt ja wer hier der Spinner ist...

    • @R3Cat
      @R3Cat 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mentartice2 what the fuck is a spinner? weird germans

    • @lolamann110
      @lolamann110 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mentartice2 ???????????????????????

  • @yt66228
    @yt66228 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    2 words LIVE CENTER! or you can machine the knob first then insert thinner rod into knob.

    • @TimNummy
      @TimNummy  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks! This was one of my first projects I ever did on a lathe - be sure to check out some of my later videos having since gotten a live center :)

    • @romiolover6852
      @romiolover6852 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      same that i was going to write

  • @PacoOtis
    @PacoOtis 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done! Thanks for the video and please carry on.

    • @TimNummy
      @TimNummy  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching!

  • @mikebarton3218
    @mikebarton3218 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video, thanks. Consider making a button to go in the hole and accept a tailstock centre for support while turning the thin sections. Possibly a travelling steady if the circumstances allow. Mike

  • @trahtrebor
    @trahtrebor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love these. Ill probably make a set for my mini. Check out Joe piezinsky on small diameter turning. Would not have helped you here but just for future ref.

  • @AndreBAnderson
    @AndreBAnderson 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Machine cuts so impressively when you speed it up like that...

  • @johnkanderson
    @johnkanderson 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    mesmerizing dude

  • @rayfalcone6897
    @rayfalcone6897 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice video ,enjoyed it very much.Tim

  • @gvet47
    @gvet47 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice but I 3D printed knurled knobs and epoxied them to the existing Allen head screws. Did the same to the change hear screws since some were different sizes.

  • @charleshanse8573
    @charleshanse8573 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    it might have been easier to make a knurled head to fit on end of original cap screw, long enough to grasp.

  • @humancattoy7767
    @humancattoy7767 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your frustration is palpable.

  • @richkellow1535
    @richkellow1535 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have exactly the same QCTP as do you, but I fitted the top two components the other way round.

    • @TimNummy
      @TimNummy  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah thanks! Someone else had pointed out that it was assembled backward too - It's since been switched around :)

  • @johntuffy5721
    @johntuffy5721 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    have you ever seen how an r.c. car body is held on? post and cross pin...so quick and holds very well.... nice vid :)

    • @TimNummy
      @TimNummy  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      That would have been a good idea too! Probably a much less interesting video/project though ha

  • @waynefitch990
    @waynefitch990 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great project, FYI wd-40 works well on aluminum

  • @jasonburns1407
    @jasonburns1407 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thats cool thanks for sharing

    • @TimNummy
      @TimNummy  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching!

  • @aga5897
    @aga5897 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice project.
    Personally i'd leave the cover off if the gears need accessing that often.
    Certainly that silly plastic floppy thing that goes over the chuck will be left off mine - easier to put a spring in the chuck key so you can't leave it in place.
    What is that lube you're using ? Last i knew, methanol was the only thing that really works for aluminium with steel tools.

  • @sacriptex5870
    @sacriptex5870 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    very cool! and smart way to do!

    • @TimNummy
      @TimNummy  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much!

  • @effyou128
    @effyou128 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just a tip that thread die is not a cutting die its a thread chaser! its not for making threads!!! Everyone is talking shit But your obviously learning so fuck em!! If the die is shaped for a wrench or socket its a thread chaser. A cutting die is a smooth circle ment only for a die wrench!!! just to help you out! keep it up bud!!

  • @ShuffleSk8Ter
    @ShuffleSk8Ter 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I fixed that problem years ago just leave off the cover :)

    • @XDslic
      @XDslic 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Until the gears break under pressure and blast your brains out

  • @briandodd9804
    @briandodd9804 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn that Allen key looked like hard work for you ha

  • @davidbawden6567
    @davidbawden6567 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would suggest you use steel instead of aluminium because its to soft and easy to strip the threads! But a nice video on making the parts.

  • @ArcAiN6
    @ArcAiN6 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Live centers :)

  • @letsgoBrandon204
    @letsgoBrandon204 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Going by the title, I thought this was machining thumbscrews the torture implement

  • @uran08
    @uran08 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video, but i have noticed that you have the tool post assembeled incorrectly. The centre tube is mounted upside down. That's why you have the handle soo far up from the tool post body.

    • @TimNummy
      @TimNummy  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh no! you're right - good thing I didn't do a video on how to install the tool post... thanks for watching and catching that!

  • @btrswt35
    @btrswt35 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wouldn't turning it between centers been better for rigidity?

    • @TimNummy
      @TimNummy  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Absolutely - and I should have.

  • @staginglightingsensation8505
    @staginglightingsensation8505 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hi . i have a simaler lathe like this one and the first thing i did was metal gears to replace the plastic ones. you dont want it to brake down and not being able to make anything untill you buy a new peace.

    • @TimNummy
      @TimNummy  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice! This one is actually a direct drive and doesn't have a transmission in the headstock. At first I was bummed but then realized I don't have any plastic gears to worry about :)

    • @staginglightingsensation8505
      @staginglightingsensation8505 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TimNummy thats awsome.

    • @chriskristopherson9594
      @chriskristopherson9594 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      TimNummy Or 3D print them which works great. Files are available on thingiverse.com

  • @koehlerrk1
    @koehlerrk1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wouldn't it have been easier to machine the grip portion as a nut, and then screw it onto a length of threaded rod? Add some green lock-tite and you won't worry about twisting those loose with finger pressure.

  • @someotherdude
    @someotherdude 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:37 your video shows the part deflection clearly. Might you leave an extra 0.25" on the end of the part to contain a center drilled hole to hold with tail stock? Funny how nearly all fellow machining addicts spend so much time modifying/improving the very machine they're using to make the part. True story: I got addicted to machining in 1990 and stupidly bought a cheap chinese copy of a ShopTask. It was so bad that I'm still working to improve it in 2021.

  • @hardwareful
    @hardwareful 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, I'm finally back on that side of youtube where people have below 1000 subscribers and the videos aren't an obvious product.
    As for the thumb screws... I'd have tried machine screw cut-offs with partial threads first, maybe turned them down and press fit them into the knobs... or ground a flat and put in a locking pin for good measure.
    Chris (Clickspring) used all-thread and tapped knobs with loctite.

    • @TimNummy
      @TimNummy  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I saw him do that! His work is incredible for sure.
      This was mostly something to try since the lathe is still pretty new and the thumbscrews gave me a goal to accomplish rather than just turning round stock into chips :)
      I appreciate you watching way over here on the three digit subscriber side of TH-cam!

  • @sirgibbsalot
    @sirgibbsalot 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    would it not have been easier to make caps that you press fit to the original bolts

    • @TimNummy
      @TimNummy  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably, this was my first project though.

  • @49537480
    @49537480 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi can you please tell me where you purchased the thread sizer from.

  • @hairanndo2002
    @hairanndo2002 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    3Dプリンター以外に自分で自分をアップグレードする機械があったとは。

  • @morkthebuilder9943
    @morkthebuilder9943 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great part. Please stop pushing the chips clear with your fingers. How you haven’t cut yourself or got a very painful metal splinter I never know. Use an old paintbrush.

  • @websurfer5150
    @websurfer5150 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You could have cheated! Others have made knurled or machined "Caps" to go on the stock bolts. Press fit or setscrew.
    If you have the need to do a similar project you could make use of the center support on dead center or a live center on the Tailstock. I have seen flex problems on 1" bar stock! I bought a ball bearing Steady Rest and a ball bearing Follow Rest. The little lathe needs the help!

    • @TimNummy
      @TimNummy  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I was thinking about that for next time. I'm going to order a live center as I tried the dead center and I don't think the tailstock is square and true enough for it to be as effective as it could be.
      I have an upcoming project that definitely needs to utilize some kind of support on the other end as it needs to be as consistent diameter as possible - so stay tuned, it will probably be a few videos before I get to it but it will be a really good test for a lot of things on this mini lathe!

    • @websurfer5150
      @websurfer5150 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      While you are looking into your new project make sure all the ways on the Saddle and Compound are adjusted well. They wear and break in over time. Mine had gotten pretty loose before I noticed it. They are tricky to adjust and the Saddle plates are cast iron and can crack if you do it wrong. There are several videos here on You Tube on the subject. Studs and lock nut on the Saddle is in my future.

    • @TimNummy
      @TimNummy  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, almost every bolt was loose when I got it and a lot of places didn't have grease that should have... Before I do the up coming big projects I'm going to strip it down and make sure everything is correct again.

  • @roleic7246
    @roleic7246 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What you tried to do with the juck key is called "indexing". Usually this is done on a mill using either a spin indexer for common division numbers. Or on a dividing head which can do almost any division number. Check out this link and its follow ups. www_youtube_com/watch?v=SzhLg121aZk
    But on some old lathes a spin indexer was built in in the shape of one or several hole circles on a pulley or gear wheel or chuck flange plate sitting on the main spindle. In your case check what the number of teeth on the timing pulley on the spindle. See if that number can be divided by 2, 3, 4, 6 etc. so you could use it for direct indexing. If not then check if you could drill a hole circle in the rear face of that timing pulley. Depending on the size desirable divisions would be 12 or 24 or 36 or 30 allowing multiples of 5. And to use the spindle as indexer you need to be able to lock the spindle. To do off-centre machining you would clamp a cordless hand drill on the cross slide either radially or axially to place your hole circle to be machined into your work.

  • @paulknight6377
    @paulknight6377 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just love your video’s....makes me very jealous of your skills....and just love the knurling, makes a huge difference. Nothing like this in the UK, keep it up. Have you thought about doing anything air guns, silencers etc?

  • @GtsAntoni1
    @GtsAntoni1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    My dude, get a low torque driver and some Allen head bits, will save you all the faff xD

    • @GtsAntoni1
      @GtsAntoni1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Never mind, posted too soon. Your solution was way, way better.

  • @JeanSenekal
    @JeanSenekal 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe use the dead Centre to keep your work peace from wobbleing. Whenever doing long thin peace's

    • @TimNummy
      @TimNummy  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! I have since picked up a live center that helps tremendously for stuff like this

    • @JeanSenekal
      @JeanSenekal 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      pleasure. thats good to hear. love the videos, keep up the good work. i also picked up in your newer videos that when you drill with big bore drill bits that they grab easy.(on the drill press) sometimes redusing the speed of the driĺl helps keep that from happening. hope it helps. have a great day.

  • @gheumann
    @gheumann 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is no need for the thumb grip to be 100% concentric with everything else. You'd get a better finish had you machined that surface much closer to the chuck. THEN move it out and reduce the shank diameter.

  • @lucianorusso6127
    @lucianorusso6127 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does is it possible to make threads on this mini lathe?

    • @TimNummy
      @TimNummy  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, but I haven't needed to cut large enough threads yet. And don't have a boring bar small enough to do the small ones.

  • @thomasneate1684
    @thomasneate1684 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Order of operation

  • @hyperhektor7733
    @hyperhektor7733 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    i would suggest you build a holder on the carriage so you can permanently use this Dial Gauge indicator (on the right/back side where space is aviable).it saves a lot of time, because you can measure while the lathe is running without the nee to turn it off and measure with the digital caliper if you diameter is on spot.
    www.amazon.com/0-40-0-0-01mm-Dovetail-Indicator-Precision/dp/B01MTN7ARZ

  • @RyanDrake67
    @RyanDrake67 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does this lathe have a through hole chuck!?

    • @TimNummy
      @TimNummy  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sure does! It's not too big but it does.

    • @RyanDrake67
      @RyanDrake67 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love your videos! My next lathe is probably going to be this lathe... especially since you did all the hard work! How big is the hole? Looking for a mini lathe that I could do 16 barrels and other stuff.

    • @TimNummy
      @TimNummy  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you very much! It's just over 3/4" i.imgur.com/zZ3HOHf.jpg

    • @RyanDrake67
      @RyanDrake67 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      IDK if you have seen the Harbor Freight Lathe 8x12... if you have what do you think of it vs the one you have?

    • @TimNummy
      @TimNummy  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's probably about the same. This one that I'm using is a 7x14 and I think on these small lathes, I'd much rather have the length over the diameter.

  • @zoranl8597
    @zoranl8597 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Until u finish customizing it, it will probably die out on u. ;)

  • @gary851
    @gary851 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    make metal gears when you get mill machine.

    • @TimNummy
      @TimNummy  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's quite the step up from thumb screws haha. Also other than the feed screw, this lathe doesn't have any other plastic gears.

    • @gary851
      @gary851 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you probably know there is a community for a mini lathe and you can buy a set of metal gears. But ye i think natural next step is milling machine.
      You can buy a combo - table drill/milling machine but these are crap.
      Problem is you can't buy mini milling machine, well you can but it won't mill a metal.

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    @philiperrendesign8362 6 ปีที่แล้ว

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      @TimNummy  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I appreciate that your video is well done and it's a pretty cool idea in general but is there a reason why it's relevant to this video and not just spam?

    • @philiperrendesign8362
      @philiperrendesign8362 6 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @TimNummy
      @TimNummy  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt this time... just know that there's a fine line between posting a relevant comment with a related video that could provide value to either me or the other watchers/subscribers and just spamming the comments of videos that have more views than yours to try to drive traffic to your channel. The former is appreciated, the latter is very much unappreciated. In fact, I even provided a video (which I'm surprised you haven't seen if you watch my videos) for others to promote themselves via my channel here: th-cam.com/video/iAX5Jod-ocM/w-d-xo.html which I would encourage you to post your channel on (one time, not by spamming it). Also, these are the kind of comments that I delete very quickly.... should I see you abusing the comment section again, I'll just delete the comment and report you. Thanks!

    • @philiperrendesign8362
      @philiperrendesign8362 6 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @janithnuwan666
    @janithnuwan666 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    hokka huko huko huko

  • @juanm6139
    @juanm6139 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry but your method is terribly inefficient. If you do that on a normal lathe with some 4140 steel... you destroy your carbide inserts, the workpiece and harm yourself with a flying pin. You need to have more rigidity on your setups.

    • @TimNummy
      @TimNummy  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed. These were literally the first thing I made that wasn't just a smaller piece of round stock :)

    • @juanm6139
      @juanm6139 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      TimNummy Man! you are polite. you really know how to take criticism. thank you for not being offended. So, here's an advice for the future: if the workpiece chatters or vibrates, you will snap your carbide inserts. I broke lots and lots, even the expensive insert holders, so never let your workpiece vibrate and you'll be fine. also, keep the stick out short to combat vibration, even if you have to do it in several sections. and be extremely careful when cutting off the workpiece, it can be thrown directly to your face. I wish you the best. cheers

    • @TimNummy
      @TimNummy  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! for both the kind words and the advice.. I definitely do some things that could cause bigger problems on harder materials. I really appreciate it.

    • @AbsorberofLight
      @AbsorberofLight 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@effyou128 I can tell by the way you talk, you have never been outside the US. AM I RIGHT??