"Palestine will be liberated in Arabic" w/ Fady Joudah
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- The brothers welcome National Book Award for Poetry Finalist Fady Joudah for a searing and intimate discussion of Palestine in English versus Palestine in Arabic, about writing poetry in a time of genocide, about the limits and hubris of solidarity, about the necessity of common decency in the face of horror, and about the meaning of Palestinian love confronting the Israeli inferno of annihilation. Featuring a powerful reading of "Dedication" from his latest book [...] published by Milkweed Editions in 2024.
Date of recording: November 6, 2024.
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Thank you for this. I watch all your episodes but found this one to be one of the most insightful and most moving. Your guest was outstanding, I will be searching out his writing in the days to come.
Amazing episode, and yes, very poetic. It's what our souls need right now. Thank you.
Melissa make sure you don't turn into a Karen. 😏
Much appreciated interview. Thank you for this. Now I have to get his book
thank you for this gift. i am a poet too. that poem “dedication” was extraordinary. i deeply appreciate Fady’s refusal to make nice and not “ afflict the comfortable”. aka all of us in the belly of empire. OMAR AL AKAD has a book coming out soon, “ One Day Everyone will always have been against this”. get him on too please
OMG I love that new book’s title. So pointed and so resonant. While MLK was still living most Americans considered him a troublesome agitator. Likewise most Afrikaners right up to the end supported their country’s legal system of segregation; after the fact most claimed they had been part of the white minority who always opposed it.
May I live to see the day when everyone I have been in discussion with this past year adjusts their memories and believes they always supported Pal liberation. 🍉💚🖤❤️
I recently found out that these guys are Edward Said’s nephews. Carrying on the legacy of their uncle well! ❤
Same handsome faces. Can’t believe I didn’t see it.
Me too!
did you also watch the bad hasbara episode?
@ no I just watch their own podcast called Makdisi street on TH-cam
@@beadmecreative9485 Najla Said was recently on an episode of the „Bad Hasbara“ Podcast, where she mentioned her cousins who do a podcast called Makdisi Street. So that is how I found out they are related.
I love his words.Saludos from South America
I get what the Fady is saying about ‘common decency’. Some people in the west sees the movement as transactional, that’s why they went to Starbucks etc post the election. On the other hand there ARE genuine people that are not Palestinian and wholeheartedly support the cause.
Only poetry can properly and deeply express the inexpressible
Only? 🤔
Born in Germany, I grew up as a perpetrator. My mother was five years old and refugee during WWII, traumatized by hunger, dying relatives and the sound of falling bombs, her family from Poland lost everything. With a conscience, Fady, it is even harder to live on when you are -- the perpetrator. To acknowledge guilt, however, doesn't mean one is not capable to feel pain and suffering of a victim, you know. I was born after the war, and I will never be able to feel the same horror my mother went through - but as a photo journo I had to cope with my own fate's pictures of victims of war, and that's why I do understand, that an outsider's pain is on a different level than what the people in Palestine must process. It is important for the victims, to not confuse compassion and sympathy with the pain of the collective suffering of the people. But I don't think, these young people on a campus are protesting to improve their standing. It's simply a core question of a woman's or a man's identity as a human being to stand up against injustice. Like the officials of South Africa today. Colleagues of mine suffer from PTSD reporting from frontlines, trying their best to change the political message. This is something we have to appreciate, even if we are not the ones experiencing hell in Gaza, or the West Bank. It's a different experience indeed, and there is no comparison. There is no comparison. -- Thank you for this discussion. Respect and regards from Heidelberg -- Susan Ville
@@villebooks thank you for an exemplary explanation of how some none Palestinians view the G’cide. Some of us are suffering albeit not as Palestinians are in Gaza. I will never stop boycotting companies that do business with the G’cidal entity, I also do not buy goods coming from the G’cidal entity.
Deep and uniquely painful episode 😢, seared my soul. Thank you Fady
Thank you, Makdisi Street. I remember feeling amazement at his first book of poems and have ordered [Ellipsis]. Joudah's comments about Western narcissism set off an avalanche of thoughts as I believe it has had such an alienating effect on American culture. I also see it as linked to the choseness hubris of taking other peoples' land and lives. These are not values that have had a good effect on America IMHO.
What an outstanding and interesting man Fady is....great talk, thank you for it!
From Ireland
This emphasis on how a language is so important within withstanding settler colonialism is so important. It's the soul, the heart, it connects you to a past that a language imposed on you can never do.
Thanks, great interview
Go raibh maith agaibh
Finally a poet! More poets please!
Uffff! Thank you Fady Joudah. 🤲🌹🤲❤️🖤🤍💚🇵🇸
Thank you, one of the best
Absolutely agree with Fady. I'm reminded of the discomfort we felt with the participation of White liberals in the Black liberation struggle in South Africa in the 1960s and 70s, some of whom were trained in Western universities. The natives who are rooted in the land, from which the colonial oppressor seeks to uproot them, should lead the struggle.
Beautiful.
Thank You to the Magnificent Maqdisi Brothers & Poet Fady Joudah 🌺💐🦋
as a non-arab fighting in the empire i completely agree with fady. we should never settle for what small movement we have going here, and we have to acknowledge that palestine must and will free itself. god bless you all
In a political struggle and activism those involved and those who suffer are forced to create strategically simple and sanitised messages to (briefly) capture distracted allies and patrons. I value this episode as Fady raged against that process, making visible his raw anger and pain, and the manner he uses words and language to stay alive and empathic in the horror. His account made me aware of my complicity in these simplistic narratives and shallow empathy, but I cant say I like the painful place he takes us to. Thank you for this very valuable opportunity to listen and change, and deepest respect to Fady and his poetry.
Great and intelligent conversations
Another hopeful episode ✊ super appreciate the brothers’ position on the larger solidarity movement ♥️ I find that not every Tankie podcast agrees and sometimes that is unproductive
Such a powerful interview
Thanks
incredible episode. i will be thinking about ways to reorient myself away from US-centric language and POV for a very long time
I fear I may have lost the guest pretty early on but that's how it is with me and poetry.
Extraordinary
He's right
The whole situation from outside should be viewed as common decency at the minimum, what's happening is absolutely horrific and the future for the Palestinians should be left in their hands, with support from all those organisations, groups etc that want a just solution.
They don't deserve a pat on the back. They should be operating and thinking from a concept of total decency.
Great guest 👍
Re a movement
I think Rashid Khalidi has the right perspective.
The movement should be a concentration on the pattern of colonisation and settler colonialism.
Make people see the bigger picture and the patterns they used and still use to maintain that superiority.
Re mainstreamed
I've learned so much anyways, people learning is always good I think.
✌🏼🇵🇸🇱🇧🇮🇷🇸🇾🇮🇶🇾🇪❤️🙏🕉
Somood!
Theres nothing to say thats enough. Except love maybe.
From Ireland again
Once you're viewed as a 'question' or a problem when you're not, it's what's imposed on you and how you react is the question or the problem, and those who describe you as a question or a problem do that from a place of viewing you as a problem towards their aims, you're just a problem for them sadly
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He is speaking poetically..metaphorically
Whenever the topic of slavery is brought up it's used to negate western values but you never talk about the sub-saharan slave trade which was far larger, much more brutal and lasted longer than the Atlantic slave trade.
Does that negate slavery elsewhee?
To those who engage in never-ending, deep level whining.
@@CS.anette Like yourself and other Hasbara
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best wishes from Valencia Spain, We support Palestine We stand with Palestine Nation