“Let us stand together. We may differ in color, but not in sentiment. Many things have been said about me which are wrong, and which white and black persons here, who stood by me through the war, can contradict.” - Nathan Bedford Forrest
Jim Hoobler is a good historian, but it was 30 horses shot out from him; he also personally killed 31 men during the war: he later commented that he came out of the war "a horse ahead." Love him or hate him, NBF had a way with words.
Tennessee wasn’t divided in its allegiance to the American Confederate government. Besides Union General Ulysses S Grant owned 4 slaves. Let’s eliminate that hypocrite from our history as well. Mrs. Grant wrote in, The Personal Memoirs of Mrs. Ulysses S. Grant: “We rented our pretty little home (in St. Louis) and hired out our four servants to persons whom we knew and who promised to be kind to them. Eliza, Dan, Julia and John belonged to me. When I visited the General during the war, I nearly always had Julia with me as nurse.” (Pages 82-83) So I guess General Grant was fighting to free his own slaves!!!
General Nathan Bedford Forrest was the best cavalry general North or South He was the only Confederate officer feared by both Grant and Sherman His raids are stuff of legend His brilliant tactics are still being studied in military academies all across America and beyond When asked who he thought the best general in the Confederate Army was General Robert E Lee replied He's a man I've never met and his name is Forrest Field Marshall Erwin Rommel of the German Afrika Corps used Forrests tactics to great success in World War II
They were six generals a year after they were generals in the confederacy. Nathan Bedford Forest was the foremost, he is the first grand wizard ever. The KKK say so. And since he left the Klan after two years and rallied against the murder of the black people, it seems what this man told me is true. according to him the Ku Klux Klan started out as a deffense vigilanty group, in case the black people threatenend the white us american civilisation, taking revenge. Since the gouvernement aproved them and they lost. The Klan alwayse talk about confederacy things and admire the confederate generals.
I have read several biographies of Nathan Bedford Forrest, and not once have I read of the man killing an unarmed man or a man after he surrendered. I would like a source for that.
@@oliver8921 That's not true. He was the first Wizard though, most historians agree. The structure of the first Klan isn't totally certain due to the whole part about it being a secret society.
It sure did take him a while to turn around. Longstreet and Beauregard became actual advocates for Civil Rights. Forrest only advocated for amicability and goodwill between races, he never believed blacks and whites ought to be equal. It's better than nothing, but it doesn't absolve him of being possibly the most evil and brutal of the southern generals.
The Forrest memorials, and all confederate memorials, are the only artifacts that remain to us, of the principle--- originating in St. Paul; mediated to us through Thomas Jefferson's political philosophy--- that any government which claims a right to invade, attack, and subjugate its own constituent people forfeits any claim to legitimacy in that very motion. Anyone who supposes that zeal to establish their peculiar concept of political justice can supply just cause for a war of invasion is possessed of a fanatical spirit.
Nathan Bedford Forest is among the greatest generals of all time. Along with Robert E Lee and Stonewall Jackson there were none greater in any war and they should always be remembered for not only their genius but also their humanity Stonewall and Lee both before and after the war and Bedford more so a few years after the war. But no general has been more influential in strategy used even today by our own military than Forest Bedford. He will forever be the strategist of American warfare.
@Ponian TH-cam Sorry but those men don't match up although they were great Generals I'm talking also as in life. Lee was not only a great General he was also a gentleman as was Jackson. Forest was probably single handed the best and most courageous General in American history. After the war become one of the most influential advocates for the equality of blacks in America and disbanded the kkk, when it was found out it had become something it was never suppose to be.
@@merleshand2442 I'm surprised nobody responded with "read a book for history, you don't learn anything from statues." I would have responded to the contrary, adding that statues add as markings of the past. It's a public symbol of those who lived and built the places people today live in.
One more thing , Forrest fought for the education of blacks after the war and spent his own money when no one else would. He was a great southerner who grew up in a bad time. He wasn't evil, and he evolved into one of the early great Civil rights leaders... Again , open up some real history books
Well he was a plantation owner, slave trader, confederate general, and a founder of the KKK. I have no doubts he was racist. I don't think we should be celebrating him with a statue. Put them in a museum. Leaving it in parks seems to be celebrating what he did.
Forrest became the primary caretaker of his family when he was 16. In 1841 Forrest went into business with his uncle Jonathan Forrest in Hernando, Mississippi. His uncle was killed there in 1845 during an argument with the Matlock brothers. In retaliation, Forrest shot and killed two of them with his two shot pistol and wounded two others with a knife which had been thrown to him. One of the wounded Matlock men survived and served under Forrest during the Civil War. Forrest wanted to be successful after living in a poor cabin. He had success as a businessman, planter and slaveholder. Historians describe him as fair and during the civil war he offered freedom to blacks who served in his regiment. 20% of his cavalry was black and he remembered as one of the greatest military leaders in history. After the war he joined the kkk because he thought it was just another militia at the time, when he found out it was evil, he disbanded it and helped the governor of Tennessee arrest and fight them and he advocated for black rights. Ignorance like yours is why men like him is hated. Read a history book
“Let us stand together. We may differ in color, but not in sentiment. Many things have been said about me which are wrong, and which white and black persons here, who stood by me through the war, can contradict.” - Nathan Bedford Forrest
These people make numerous mistakes on Nathan Bedford Forrest you’re more ignorant listening to them he killed 30 men and hand to hand combat and had 31 horses shot out from underneath him
I just look at the overall damage that Beford did, Overall he did some serious harm to the nation with the Civil War stuff, AND the KKK founding and nothing he tried to do after that can make up for it. If there is a day or statue honoring him in a state, take it down. The one in the museum can stay.
@@GCKing9598 he massacred a group of innocent African American soldiers even when they had surrendered to him meaning that he was a war criminal and a murderer.
@@stpat7614 he was against secession but when TN left the union he stayed loyal to his home, like many other soldiers did. You are just one more ignorant not caring about historical context.
This guy is 100% correct about him changing after the war and the Klan. He did more good for black men and women after he changed then he did bad during any other time of his life. People really need to get the whole story when it comes to history.
It's 2021 and the Historical Commission has decided that the bust should be moved from the Capitol to a museum and so how do Republicans want to handle this? They want to replace the commission members and do away with the requirement that they have a historical background. No doubt they know his full history. Seriously, are people looking at this bust and remembering what he did later? If that's not common knowledge, then why not etch it in stone under the bust so that that message of repentance / change of heart and positive action is delivered? I think what it is said he did (e.g., quitting the Klan and advocating for the rights of black people) is not the message anyone who is opposing the removal wants to get across. If so then put up or shut up and let it be moved.
Yes! We need more positive stories on the Ku Klux klan. Nathan Bedford was the first Grand Wizard of the Klan. When black Union soldiers tried to surrender, they were put like dogs! He was a great American! Make this video go viral!
“Let us stand together. We may differ in color, but not in sentiment. Many things have been said about me which are wrong, and which white and black persons here, who stood by me through the war, can contradict.” - Nathan Bedford Forrest
That's quite the quote. Perhaps you can share a source to us curious folks?
Arnold.O. I agree, but books.google.com/books/about/Nathan_Bedford_Forrest.html?id=1LIvYI_ER5kC
He also set all his slaves free because he feared he would be called to prison
Also he formed the KKK and slaughtered blacks and un armed men
Lol?
Krazy PotatoFiend Wrong! He disbanded the kkk with General Order One. 6 other men founded the kkk. Get an education
@@SouthernGentleman Thank you, my friend! It surprised me he became a better fella after his KKK days.
Jim Hoobler is a good historian, but it was 30 horses shot out from him; he also personally killed 31 men during the war: he later commented that he came out of the war "a horse ahead." Love him or hate him, NBF had a way with words.
a way with evil too.
The bestest and the mostest
He also had a way with the KKK, he was a clown and a disgrace to the human race
Run, Forrest run!
Make another Nathan Bedford Forrest statue and put up around the property somewhere.
Tennessee wasn’t divided in its allegiance to the American Confederate government.
Besides Union General
Ulysses S Grant owned 4 slaves.
Let’s eliminate that hypocrite from our history as well.
Mrs. Grant wrote in, The Personal Memoirs of Mrs. Ulysses S. Grant: “We rented our pretty little home (in St. Louis) and hired out our four
servants to persons whom we knew and
who promised to be kind to them. Eliza, Dan, Julia and John belonged to me. When I visited the General during
the war, I nearly always had Julia with me as nurse.” (Pages 82-83)
So I guess General Grant was fighting to free his own slaves!!!
General Nathan Bedford Forrest was the best cavalry general North or South He was the only Confederate officer feared by both Grant and Sherman His raids are stuff of legend His brilliant tactics are still being studied in military academies all across America and beyond When asked who he thought the best general in the Confederate Army was General Robert E Lee replied He's a man I've never met and his name is Forrest Field Marshall Erwin Rommel of the German Afrika Corps used Forrests tactics to great success in World War II
whats up with white people yo
@@whatalaffss we are sick and tired of Political InCorrect morons lying about American History and attacking our Confederate Heritage
@@travisbayles870 he make the kkk u is tripping tripping
@@whatalaffss Thats a lie He was never a part of the KKK
@@travisbayles870 no its not theres evidence literal museums u can go to
Forest was the best commander our country ever produced.
fucking racist.
You mean the one who lost? Sure
Stonewall Jackson was considered a better leader than napoleon
his side lost and also he founded the kkk
@@jotarobat no he didn’t. That’s just a lie.
A great soldier.3 more of him...different war
I'm Arthur Bhutic! I'm at 8902 Crazy Horse Trail, Houston, Texas 77064-7151! Luv 💘 Ya Nathan Bedford Forrest!
A traitor to the Union, a slave holder, a Klansman, and a racist POS.
He was not a founding member of the KKK. Please fact check. Founding members were six lawyers in Pulaski, TN.
They were six generals a year after they were generals in the confederacy. Nathan Bedford Forest was the foremost, he is the first grand wizard ever. The KKK say so. And since he left the Klan after two years and rallied against the murder of the black people, it seems what this man told me is true. according to him the Ku Klux Klan started out as a deffense vigilanty group, in case the black people threatenend the white us american civilisation, taking revenge. Since the gouvernement aproved them and they lost. The Klan alwayse talk about confederacy things and admire the confederate generals.
Plus he was a member of the controversial group of The Knights of the Golden Circle, along with other known people in the Civil War too.
I have read several biographies of Nathan Bedford Forrest, and not once have I read of the man killing an unarmed man or a man after he surrendered. I would like a source for that.
@Frederick Wells yup thats true
talk to his slaves, which he didn't even consider to be men...
Read about the Fort Pillow massacre. I can't imagine you reading biographies of Forrest and missing that.
ok, but he started the fucking kkk
@@oliver8921 That's not true. He was the first Wizard though, most historians agree. The structure of the first Klan isn't totally certain due to the whole part about it being a secret society.
As a young man of color this is a beautiful story. Anyone can change. Glad he got the chance 💛
Thank u that’s my granpa
@@jaceforrest3520 Based.
What they’ll Never say is that he left the klan and devoted the rest of his life to civil rights
Really he did that because if he did my view on him will change
Prove it.
@@oohweeoohwee9222 wym prove it lol thats a fact lol thats like saying prove dr king was a civil rights activist
@@braaxton1904 we have proof of Dr King. What do you have on Nothin Forrest?
It sure did take him a while to turn around. Longstreet and Beauregard became actual advocates for Civil Rights. Forrest only advocated for amicability and goodwill between races, he never believed blacks and whites ought to be equal. It's better than nothing, but it doesn't absolve him of being possibly the most evil and brutal of the southern generals.
He was not one of the six founding members
He got that damn statue because he’s forced Dunstan grandfather and put some goddamn respect on his name
W NATHAN BEDFORD FORREST, GREAT GENERAL
Hell no
How much money for the statue
Never judge a book by its cover.
Fort pillow massacre has long since been debunked
Who else seen the rat 0:57
Where
Woop it’s at 1:07 actually to the right in the background
If they have to discuss taking it down is really a problem
He was an American hero who fought in a revolution against a tyrannical government
He murdered hundreds of unarmed soldiers. Hes in hell
@@yessiricatchvibes351 nearly every other general in history has also war is nasty
he was a racist murderer who help you acummulate wealth,, power, and prestige through the subjugation and oppression of innocents.
@@debralegorreta1375 that just a ridiculous statement but revisionist history has to be simple I suppose to make it easier for lemmings to believe
Hes a traitor
The Forrest memorials, and all confederate memorials, are the only artifacts that remain to us, of the principle--- originating in St. Paul; mediated to us through Thomas Jefferson's political philosophy--- that any government which claims a right to invade, attack, and subjugate its own constituent people forfeits any claim to legitimacy in that very motion. Anyone who supposes that zeal to establish their peculiar concept of political justice can supply just cause for a war of invasion is possessed of a fanatical spirit.
Fck yo culture
Lol. Dude said "go through it again" lol... Hilarious Shiiiid
If it is true he changed his ways after two years of forming the Klan , then that is good, Its not how we start , its how we end up.
Nathan Bedford Forest is among the greatest generals of all time. Along with Robert E Lee and Stonewall Jackson there were none greater in any war and they should always be remembered for not only their genius but also their humanity Stonewall and Lee both before and after the war and Bedford more so a few years after the war. But no general has been more influential in strategy used even today by our own military than Forest Bedford. He will forever be the strategist of American warfare.
@Ponian TH-cam Sorry but those men don't match up although they were great Generals I'm talking also as in life. Lee was not only a great General he was also a gentleman as was Jackson. Forest was probably single handed the best and most courageous General in American history. After the war become one of the most influential advocates for the equality of blacks in America and disbanded the kkk, when it was found out it had become something it was never suppose to be.
So put it in a god damn museum, not at the state capital of Tennessee
Why though? History is important especially with guys like him he was a warrior defending his Homeland and Nashville was the capital of Tennessee
Museum? Should the marks of our culture and history be confined to the dungeons of the mausoleum?
@@merleshand2442 I'm surprised nobody responded with "read a book for history, you don't learn anything from statues." I would have responded to the contrary, adding that statues add as markings of the past. It's a public symbol of those who lived and built the places people today live in.
WHY,????
for the love of god almighty why???????
A GREAT HISTORICAL FIGURE
One more thing , Forrest fought for the education of blacks after the war and spent his own money when no one else would.
He was a great southerner who grew up in a bad time.
He wasn't evil, and he evolved into one of the early great Civil rights leaders...
Again , open up some real history books
Well he was a plantation owner, slave trader, confederate general, and a founder of the KKK. I have no doubts he was racist. I don't think we should be celebrating him with a statue. Put them in a museum. Leaving it in parks seems to be celebrating what he did.
Fck allat delete all the racist history
@@Zoroaster4 "Leaving it in parks seems to be celebrating what he did." What?
@@feudinggreeks3316 What exactly is so difficult to understand about that? Either you're dumb or being intentionally obtuse.
@@feudinggreeks3316 What exactly is so difficult to understand about that? Either you're dumb or being intentionally obtuse.
damn. get your facts straight. best cavalry soldier in the history of America had 30 horses shot from under him. I won't even watch the rest.
He was a black civil rights activist
as slave trade and owner???
@@rickzepeda4403 No. 1875, he advocated for the admission of blacks into law school
Forrest became the primary caretaker of his family when he was 16.
In 1841 Forrest went into business with his uncle Jonathan Forrest in Hernando, Mississippi. His uncle was killed there in 1845 during an argument with the Matlock brothers. In retaliation, Forrest shot and killed two of them with his two shot pistol and wounded two others with a knife which had been thrown to him. One of the wounded Matlock men survived and served under Forrest during the Civil War. Forrest wanted to be successful after living in a poor cabin. He had success as a businessman, planter and slaveholder.
Historians describe him as fair and during the civil war he offered freedom to blacks who served in his regiment. 20% of his cavalry was black and he remembered as one of the greatest military leaders in history.
After the war he joined the kkk because he thought it was just another militia at the time, when he found out it was evil, he disbanded it and helped the governor of Tennessee arrest and fight them and he advocated for black rights.
Ignorance like yours is why men like him is hated. Read a history book
“Let us stand together. We may differ in color, but not in sentiment. Many things have been said about me which are wrong, and which white and black persons here, who stood by me through the war, can contradict.” - Nathan Bedford Forrest
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One of america greatest calvery generals
A relative of Forrest Gump.
Excuses excuses
Statue is gone ❤️ as of yesterday
History, wether it's pretty or not must be remembered or else history will repeat it's self.
Shvtcho dmb @zz up if we remember it it will repeat
These people make numerous mistakes on Nathan Bedford Forrest you’re more ignorant listening to them he killed 30 men and hand to hand combat and had 31 horses shot out from underneath him
29 HORSES
I just look at the overall damage that Beford did, Overall he did some serious harm to the nation with the Civil War stuff, AND the KKK founding and nothing he tried to do after that can make up for it. If there is a day or statue honoring him in a state, take it down. The one in the museum can stay.
🖕🏻
He didn’t start the KKK that’s just a lie. And what did he do that was so bad during the civil war other than fight for the confederacy?
@@GCKing9598 he massacred a group of innocent African American soldiers even when they had surrendered to him meaning that he was a war criminal and a murderer.
will people ever grow up
Give it to me I will take care of it!!
Im pretty sure that evil beast is burning in hell fire 🔥🔥 forever by THE Most High God of justice!!!!
Is this another attempt to re-write history in order to justify our nation's reluctance to denounce Nathan Bedford Forrest?
No, it's a pretty good and nuanced look at a complicated historical figure and the arguments for and against memorializing him.
I love Forrest bitches!!
He was indeed a racist. However everyone was at the time. We must also look at how he was a great general.
For the wrong side. He was a traitor.
@@stpat7614 No he wasn't please crack open a book and read about it
@@imaginexd1871 Are you loyal to the USA or the CSA? If it's the former, then he was a traitor.
he was a racist piece of shit I I'll spit on his statue
@@stpat7614 he was against secession but when TN left the union he stayed loyal to his home, like many other soldiers did. You are just one more ignorant not caring about historical context.
This guy is 100% correct about him changing after the war and the Klan. He did more good for black men and women after he changed then he did bad during any other time of his life. People really need to get the whole story when it comes to history.
They chose the wrong guy to interview lol. He looks sick.
OK!.... 177
He was a hero
It's 2021 and the Historical Commission has decided that the bust should be moved from the Capitol to a museum and so how do Republicans want to handle this? They want to replace the commission members and do away with the requirement that they have a historical background. No doubt they know his full history. Seriously, are people looking at this bust and remembering what he did later? If that's not common knowledge, then why not etch it in stone under the bust so that that message of repentance / change of heart and positive action is delivered? I think what it is said he did (e.g., quitting the Klan and advocating for the rights of black people) is not the message anyone who is opposing the removal wants to get across. If so then put up or shut up and let it be moved.
Send the bust to me, I will display it!
Really was a relative of forest gump.
Now that's a well known democrat.
Yes! We need more positive stories on the Ku
Klux klan. Nathan Bedford was the first Grand Wizard of the Klan. When black Union soldiers tried to surrender, they were put like dogs! He was a great American! Make this video go viral!
My grandfather
Every historic figure has dark secrets, that doesn't mean they can't be honored.