Not sure why some folks felt the need to try and poke more holes in The Cheese. He certainly did give us some good info. pertaining to something very relevant to the sport. I feel he said as much as he could at the moment without delving into speculation and he is right to say this situation should be investigated immediately. Disc Golf has reached a Break Out time in it's development and decisions made in the next few years will have a significant impact on a growing sport.
As a lonestar sponsored player i can say that this stuff is true. I believe that Terry should let his son take over. (Or somebody else) his attitude is just not good at all. However i will say that their marketing of posting items to the lonestar ranger team first is smart. While the Management team is not the best the plastic still is the best. And until another company makes plastic that durable i will not be throwing anything else. Mainly because its cheaper for me to buy just 1 disc.
i deleted my initial comment cause i noticed not a single person was talking about the lone star thing. i believe it should be talked about and also trying to search about it brings nothing, maybe you guys should do a follow up video on this so maybe it can show up on peoples feed
There are people in it for money to make a living, and then there are people in it to make money to make more money. Expecting those who are in it to make money for the sake of money to be reasonable in a moral or ethical context (where regular people predictably would) is a fatal fallacy. Their profit machine will ALWAYS come first, over morals, over ethics, over bad behavior. The only thing that may briefly sway them is a decision that would give them more power or more leverage which could then be used for making more money.
Swiss Cheese having a moment of self reflection and embarrassment at introducing himself as "Swiss Cheese" during Tournament Central was pretty funny. Maybe just use your first name if you ain't gonna say it with your chest.
There was a short secrion on the courses changing. I spoke with a PDGA official at Music City last year about how the Mill Creek course allows a general admission fan to watch a single player play/throw over 80% of the course from the GA areas. He said that's what they're going for. More open areas, more fans, more money. Yes, it's all about money, nobody wants to do this all for free.
I’ve played on a lot of different baskets, I’ve gotta say prodigy has taken over for Mach as my least favorite. The new MVP Black Hole Portals are worlds better!
Pretty hard to say hole #18 at Waco last round was a forgettable hole... I prefer the wooded OG bEast course but the other course didn't under perform!
For the people complaining that this is a clickbait title, did you even watch the video? They are spot-on. This type of threatening is not only uncalled for, but illegal. We aren't talking about someone dealing with a direct competitor, it would be one thing to say yeah if you're throwing for our disc company and we find you are throwing for another disc company, we are kicking you off the team. That's pretty standard contract. But to say you can't be associated with an online retailer just because we have a personal grudge against the owner, yeah that needs to be investigated and if they are threatening players, threatening potential income revenues and streams, and doing so in a way that does not negatively impact Lone Star at all but simply is associating with someone they don't like, then yeah they should be stripped of any influence in the league.
I agree with this what hey say and yes company and even sponsored players need to be held accountable even ban from playing wih Lone Star. However recap again of same stuff was kind of boring and a major reason why people are not subscribing. I did like current TD interview becuse video is good and somehing we have not seen in a few years back when Johnny Disc Golf was able to get video because we got actual guy being brought in to DGN becuse DGN/DGPT was trying to keep all disc golf related media for their own needs not even letting JomezPro do full Disc Golf Pro Tour events for 2021--2023 or keeping groups like the Disc Golf World held back because GGPT were not letting any media leak out from behind a paywall only relizing in mid 2023 this is hurting Disc Golf Pro Tour get held back as a sport when 2020 bubble finally slowed down in 2023 for disc golf in 2023 and agreeing to having events back on TH-cam in 2024.
@@neptun3189so you want everything talked about in the title? How long do you think the title should be? Do you have any formal experience writing headlines or is this some amateur back seating
11:42 - When you are taking a million dollars a year just from your main sponsor, I imagine it is pretty difficult to remain hungry. Even Ricky isn't playing tremendously well with his million bucks a year package.
I feel that McBeth's drop has less to do with "I got a million a year in a contract deal," and more to do with him expanding his foundation, playing in Europe for a while to try and help bring some attention to that series, and maybe... JUST MAYBE... being at home with his wife and recently born child. His contract is 3 years old now, and he played a phenomenal first season with his Discraft sponsorship. But to an extent, yes... why would they go out there and risk injury for some shots they risked in the past when it's no longer that serious for them to have to take in those wins for the big check? But for McBeth, at least, I think there is far more to it.
Wait... People throw Lonestar? I'm in Michigan, so it would obviously be less popular versus the southwestern united states, but I have legitimately never even seen a Lonestar disc. Not on the course, not in local stores, not anywhere lol The only place i've ever seen their discs is on coverage (wether it be an ad, or a Lonestar player featured on coverage.
If Disc Golf wants to really grow instead of taking short term cash they would broadcast all their tournaments in whole for free. They need long term visionaries.
He didn’t get fired, he left cause he saw the toxic nature from the inside. I know a bunch of former employees who have all said generally the same thing about LSD.
People say disc golfers are overly sensitive lol. Ball golfers love to refer to their preference as "real golf". Whether ball or disc, it's all still golf
Dgpt and pdga are trying to do the same thing with DG that guy claims lonestar is doing, trying to control the money I mean. What's new, that's what all companies do Bad putts cause spit outs, not baskets And why cuss if you're just going to bleep it? Just don't cuss and the video will be better
You do realize that people can not read and listen at the same time, right? Slow down son, my finger's getting tired pausing the video so I can read the billboards. I do like your content though.
Not sure why some folks felt the need to try and poke more holes in The Cheese. He certainly did give us some good info. pertaining to something very relevant to the sport. I feel he said as much as he could at the moment without delving into speculation and he is right to say this situation should be investigated immediately. Disc Golf has reached a Break Out time in it's development and decisions made in the next few years will have a significant impact on a growing sport.
As a lonestar sponsored player i can say that this stuff is true. I believe that Terry should let his son take over. (Or somebody else) his attitude is just not good at all.
However i will say that their marketing of posting items to the lonestar ranger team first is smart.
While the Management team is not the best the plastic still is the best. And until another company makes plastic that durable i will not be throwing anything else. Mainly because its cheaper for me to buy just 1 disc.
Always had the impression that Lonestar management is sus.
Did you, lol
i deleted my initial comment cause i noticed not a single person was talking about the lone star thing. i believe it should be talked about and also trying to search about it brings nothing, maybe you guys should do a follow up video on this so maybe it can show up on peoples feed
When Gannon went out of bounds, that drop spot was way off. I don't know how everyone agreed to that spot. Wild...
Sexton had an awful spot too, it was somewhere on the back 9 can’t remember the hole
Lone Star in it for the money. DGPT in it for the money. Expect lip service at best.
Every single company is in it for money, if they say otherwise they're just lying to everyone
lol everyone is in it for the money, so what’s your point?
There are people in it for money to make a living, and then there are people in it to make money to make more money. Expecting those who are in it to make money for the sake of money to be reasonable in a moral or ethical context (where regular people predictably would) is a fatal fallacy. Their profit machine will ALWAYS come first, over morals, over ethics, over bad behavior. The only thing that may briefly sway them is a decision that would give them more power or more leverage which could then be used for making more money.
@@anitabonghit266*only money
Good coverage
Swiss Cheese having a moment of self reflection and embarrassment at introducing himself as "Swiss Cheese" during Tournament Central was pretty funny. Maybe just use your first name if you ain't gonna say it with your chest.
Just love the style of these videos.
Man I love your guys content! Keep up the great work!! I hope I get to meet you guys this year at USDGC!!
Thanks for posting the medical update about Stacie rawnsley !
All the people claiming clickbait must not have finished the video lol
There was a short secrion on the courses changing. I spoke with a PDGA official at Music City last year about how the Mill Creek course allows a general admission fan to watch a single player play/throw over 80% of the course from the GA areas. He said that's what they're going for. More open areas, more fans, more money. Yes, it's all about money, nobody wants to do this all for free.
I've been to other events and you may be able to see a player for 30% of the course if you're lucky.
Those RPM baskets catch better and look WAY cooler. American baskets are all clunky and boring. RPM baskets look like intelligent people made them
I’ve played on a lot of different baskets, I’ve gotta say prodigy has taken over for Mach as my least favorite. The new MVP Black Hole Portals are worlds better!
Pretty hard to say hole #18 at Waco last round was a forgettable hole...
I prefer the wooded OG bEast course but the other course didn't under perform!
I really appreciate the shout out. It’s me the Jewel of Waco lol😂
For the people complaining that this is a clickbait title, did you even watch the video? They are spot-on. This type of threatening is not only uncalled for, but illegal. We aren't talking about someone dealing with a direct competitor, it would be one thing to say yeah if you're throwing for our disc company and we find you are throwing for another disc company, we are kicking you off the team. That's pretty standard contract. But to say you can't be associated with an online retailer just because we have a personal grudge against the owner, yeah that needs to be investigated and if they are threatening players, threatening potential income revenues and streams, and doing so in a way that does not negatively impact Lone Star at all but simply is associating with someone they don't like, then yeah they should be stripped of any influence in the league.
there was like maybe a minute talking about this. everything else is just rehashed info or complaining about the "new guard old guard" stuff
I agree with this what hey say and yes company and even sponsored players need to be held accountable even ban from playing wih Lone Star. However recap again of same stuff was kind of boring and a major reason why people are not subscribing. I did like current TD interview becuse video is good and somehing we have not seen in a few years back when Johnny Disc Golf was able to get video because we got actual guy being brought in to DGN becuse DGN/DGPT was trying to keep all disc golf related media for their own needs not even letting JomezPro do full Disc Golf Pro Tour events for 2021--2023 or keeping groups like the Disc Golf World held back because GGPT were not letting any media leak out from behind a paywall only relizing in mid 2023 this is hurting Disc Golf Pro Tour get held back as a sport when 2020 bubble finally slowed down in 2023 for disc golf in 2023 and agreeing to having events back on TH-cam in 2024.
@@neptun3189so you want everything talked about in the title? How long do you think the title should be? Do you have any formal experience writing headlines or is this some amateur back seating
@@laysdong lol. Half the video was complaining. And a lot more could’ve been elaborated about what the DGPT should do
Generally if there are a lot
Of people calling it click bait, that’s what it is…..
Sucks about Lone Star as ive thrown some of their discs with positive impressions and results. Maybe time for a buy out?
11:42 - When you are taking a million dollars a year just from your main sponsor, I imagine it is pretty difficult to remain hungry.
Even Ricky isn't playing tremendously well with his million bucks a year package.
I feel that McBeth's drop has less to do with "I got a million a year in a contract deal," and more to do with him expanding his foundation, playing in Europe for a while to try and help bring some attention to that series, and maybe... JUST MAYBE... being at home with his wife and recently born child. His contract is 3 years old now, and he played a phenomenal first season with his Discraft sponsorship. But to an extent, yes... why would they go out there and risk injury for some shots they risked in the past when it's no longer that serious for them to have to take in those wins for the big check? But for McBeth, at least, I think there is far more to it.
Definitely need to get with Barsby about some taco spots. And maybe some throw ins?
Love the kill Tony reference at the end when Luke likes rocks.
Wait... People throw Lonestar? I'm in Michigan, so it would obviously be less popular versus the southwestern united states, but I have legitimately never even seen a Lonestar disc. Not on the course, not in local stores, not anywhere lol The only place i've ever seen their discs is on coverage (wether it be an ad, or a Lonestar player featured on coverage.
If Disc Golf wants to really grow instead of taking short term cash they would broadcast all their tournaments in whole for free. They need long term visionaries.
Can you really be surprised about lone star? They are sponsoring Nikko after the european open debacle.
Buts it's the best plastic they told us
Just an angry employee who got fired. Move on
He didn’t get fired, he left cause he saw the toxic nature from the inside. I know a bunch of former employees who have all said generally the same thing about LSD.
More clickbait titles…cmon
Just because you disagree with something doesn't mean it's click bait
I think it's genius
They should rely on the quality of the content, not click bait titles to get views
@@andrewk.himmler4822 TH-cam literally doesn’t thrive on quality videos over catchy titles.
I'm not retarded but I like rocks...
You got me big guy. Subscribed!
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Josh is a tool, noone wanted him so he had to start his own stuff ( which will def fail).
Please give traditional golf its respect. Not ball golf. Traditional golf earns more money for charities than the nfl nba and nhl combined
It's golf. With a ball. Ball golf.
It’s to make the clear distinction between the two for the purpose of clarity. You know…language. Why are y’all like this 😂
People say disc golfers are overly sensitive lol. Ball golfers love to refer to their preference as "real golf". Whether ball or disc, it's all still golf
Dgpt and pdga are trying to do the same thing with DG that guy claims lonestar is doing, trying to control the money I mean. What's new, that's what all companies do
Bad putts cause spit outs, not baskets
And why cuss if you're just going to bleep it? Just don't cuss and the video will be better
Dude....clear your throat, FFS
You do realize that people can not read and listen at the same time, right? Slow down son, my finger's getting tired pausing the video so I can read the billboards. I do like your content though.
You still say ‘ball golf’😂😂😂 what a 🤡🤡….bruh it’s call Golf
Any disc golfer calls it ball golf.....
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@@shawnmanson6193that's not true at all
Travis, it's "their" page, muppet.