We lost our Drummer for tonight's rehearsal and so Percussion had to carry the beat. Even though rehearsal went well, I was told, I felt so inadequate so after the set I spoke with our Worship Pastor. He was encouraging and said, "Let's get rid of the Djembe and see what we can do with The Pad. Well, here I am now watching your tutorial and have to say your post is an answer to my prayer. In it for the long haul so I'll be checking out the rest of your videos. Thank you ever so much :)
Love the content man. Just jumped into electronic drums after resisting for years and this has been a great crash course for my new spd-sx. Keep these coming, much appreciated!
For sure, I appreciate it. May need to connect with you about a Skype lesson on running backing tracks. I want to start getting my band better organized
I was actually wondering how you implement the delay effect on your shaker. When you’re going from one song to the next do you tap your tempo out for each song or do you just give each song it’s own kit on the SPD? I’ve started implementing the SPD-SX on an acoustic gig I play frequently and I’m just wondering how I could implement those synchronized effects when I’m jumping from song to song on a 3 hour restaurant gig.
@@andrewtorresmusic Hey Andrew! If you pause the video when I'm talking about it (around the 9:16 mark ), there is a pop up that tells you how to assign it. I have each song programmed to a different kit with the tempo already set up on the kit. If you were having to change tempo on the fly, the tap tempo feature is great: th-cam.com/video/t0Hgc3R4Eak/w-d-xo.html That video has more on that.
Again - Awesome video! You really are an amazing inspiration! Since you know showed us the possibilities of the SPD-SX in slower songs could you please show us how you would use it in a acustic cover band scenerio where you have to play songs like Valerie. Thanks allot and greetings!
i love these things..i also have the octopad.i have the USB connected to my computer for midi and the audio goes into my pioneer DJS1000 along with my DJ set up the usb midi notes are taken into syphon and put into resolume to trigger video clips on my led video wall
How does it respond to hand hits and shuffles. Have been playing handsonic's, spd 20, and an spd6 along with my acoustic percussion set up since 1999. Have a love/hate relationship with them. I've modified my playing to work around some of their weaknesses with hand techniques. Finger rolls, attack, hand shuffles? It sensitive enough to use with hands?...Thanks for sharing!
I've never used the Yamaha version so I can't speak to the quality. BUT. I love this Roland unit, it has seen a lot of gigs/road and is still kicking. Haven't had any problems with it yet.
For sure, Roland's been the name in the game since the beginning with the original SPD stuff. I'm looking at the Yamaha cause it supposedly has some trigger sensitivity that the other's don't have. But hey, maybe that and the new Alesis unit will push Roland to make something new, these and the Octapad's have been out for a while now.
@@nj7627 the yamaha is very different from this. It has a lot of options and is does a lot of things very well including being a much better electric drum set (the yamaha is actually an electric percussion instrument). The one thing it does not do? Have the sample memory to play artist specific samples and backing tracks (although the ios app helps with backing tracks). What are you looking to do with your pad?
MalikEmmanuel I’m looking to have something to use for some acoustic shows (though in my case it might actually be unplugged which will negate all this) and add a little bit to my real set possibly. I might also use it to track some electronic stuff in my daw, more as a midi controller for that though
@@nj7627 the Yamaha does that VERY well. The samples on the Yamaha can be played dynamically, their quality is waaaaayyyy better than the roland sounds, it's far more expandable, and the layer function works so much better (which could allow for things like ghost notes, making it an actual high quality electric kit). I am only making this difference for you because the ~$300 price difference. Those are all things that the Yamaha does better, as long as you are not looking to load your own samples onto the pad you may prefer it....but that doesn't mean that you will not be looking to do that in the future, keep that in mind.
Hey! I haven't. At the end of the day, most of these pads are similar. I've just stuck with Roland because I've had so few issues in the 20 years I've been using their stuff.
Hey! Most of my samples are from different artists I've played with over the years (so I can't give those out). But the other samples I use I got from iwantthatsound.com - they make AWESOME samples and have a free pack you can download somewhere on their site.
Do you ever use it together with an acoustic kit to trigger electronic sounds (claps, snaps, 808s, movie line one-shots, etc.), and if so, in a loud band setting are there any issues with accidental triggers?
Great video. Question: How important/useful in this type of setting is it to use a separate kick drum foot trigger. Seems like it would free up a lot of playing options without over complicating things. Are you upgrading to the newly announced SPD-SX Pro?
Hey Glenn! Having a separate foot trigger definitely makes things easier (although I don’t use one). As for the new SPD-SX Pro - I just made a new video about my thoughts!
Hey Kevo! Thanks so much. I don't ever use a real bass drum trigger (although I guess I should try it! haha). But I have used external pads before for a few different set ups/occasions. It is rarely because I need extra sounds and typically because I want to set up a pad in a different area of the stage or something like that.
I have been thinking of getting an SX for myself as well for the purposes of an electronic mini-kit and also a sampler. Why not get the KT-10 or KD-7 so you could play the kick patterns with your foot instead?
I haven't looked into the KT-10 or KD-7 because I don't play a TON of stand-alone acoustic shows on the SPD so it isn't really worth the "investment". But it would be super nice to have that flexibility and if you are planning on using you 'mini-kit' set up I think it would be TOTALLY worth it. The other reason is simply that it adds quite a bit more gear to this simple set up. Right now I have the pad, stand, and a pair of sticks. Adding an additional pad means having to lug it around, and also adds needing to bring a kick pedal. Not the end of the world by any means, but if I can get by carrying less gear and not have any quality loss - I'll pick less gear any day! haha.
@@TimBuell Good point on the bringing less gear part... I agree! The shows I play are mostly acoustic (or stripped down as you say in part 1 of your video) and the SPD has to function as a mini-kit. The other drummers I know use an SPD-30 because of the ability to add HH control... which the SPD-SX doesn't have. I think there is a workaround however... using either a separate drum module to process the HH control or a standalone HH controller, if there is one in the market.
Great question. This all really really depends on the sample. Some are "mastered" and ready to go. Meaning they have been boosted and maxed out so you won't need to do anything. Other samples might have to be "mastered" before you export. Meaning you'll want to add compression and maybe some limiting and an EQ that will compensate for how the sample will need to sound in whatever venues you'll be playing in.
I'm looking to turn something like the Roland SPD-SX into a "full kit" with external kick + hihat pedals. Does the SPD-SX allow this expansion? I see you put a kick on one of the pads but wasn't sure if that could be triggered with the foot as well. Thanks in advance.
Hi Tony, would you say that the SPD30 sounds more realistic? Like for example when playing a hi hat groove, does it sound less robot machine gun like? Thanks :)
Glad you dig it! I've been a Roland user since I was about 14. Roland is also the "industry standard" in Nashville - which makes subbing on gigs easy as you can load an entire backup of all the settings/sounds onto a Flash drive and transfer it to whoever is subbing for you (or whoever you are subbing for). The spd-sx also has more physical outputs (I believe) than any other pad. Which gives you a lot more flexibility if you are using the pad for tracks and triggers, etc. Hope that helps!
I'm definitely going for that instead of Cajon (my back can't handle it anymore haha). But, do you think it fits with an acoustic guitar in a duo gig? Great tips here tho
Hey! Obviously, it is a matter of personal preference. So there is no 'right' answer. But...I FOR SURE think that it will fit in almost any setting. All comes down to what samples you use, and how you use them. And like any 'acoustic gig', you might have to really adopt the part and change it to fit the new set up. Cajon lends itself well to just kinda play what you would usually play on kit - but just with cajon. Using the SPD-SX might mean you have to get a little more specific about parts and make sure you find the right samples. Hope that helps!
You are right. I'm working on it right now. I already have Thatsound samples to help me. Thank you so much for the tips and reply. Great job on the video cheers @@TimBuell
JBL Eon. Can't remember what size. I've used it for YEARS. But that is mostly for home use. When I'm playing out there is almost always a sound system provided.
I am with you I can't stand CAJONS ! They sound like exactly what they are. A hollow box ane it looks stupid too , just my opinion. In my opinion just playing a snare drum with brushes is better than a Cajon. Love these pads.
Rich DeFazio hahaha that’s a good point. In Nashville most “acoustic gigs” are really just “low volume gigs” and there is pretty much always a sound system they put vocals and instruments like keys and acoustic through.
We lost our Drummer for tonight's rehearsal and so Percussion had to carry the beat. Even though rehearsal went well, I was told, I felt so inadequate so after the set I spoke with our Worship Pastor. He was encouraging and said, "Let's get rid of the Djembe and see what we can do with The Pad. Well, here I am now watching your tutorial and have to say your post is an answer to my prayer. In it for the long haul so I'll be checking out the rest of your videos. Thank you ever so much :)
So glad to hear that! Feel free to contact me over on my website timbuellmusic(dot)com/contact
I'm happy to answer whatever questions you might have!
Just bought me a Drum pad and your videos are helping me learn how to get this thing started!!
Gray Matter glad to hear it!!
Keep these coming man! Just started messing with hybrid drumming and these videos have been extremely helpful. Many thanks!
Awesome! Glad you dug it.
Love the content man. Just jumped into electronic drums after resisting for years and this has been a great crash course for my new spd-sx. Keep these coming, much appreciated!
Glad to hear it Anthony! Let me know if you have any specific questions and I'll see if I can help.
For sure, I appreciate it. May need to connect with you about a Skype lesson on running backing tracks. I want to start getting my band better organized
@@rllrlrrl89 Send me an email timbuellmusic(at)gmail(dot)com and let's chat!
Incredibly insightful! I’ve been dying for a video like this!
Awesome! Glad I could help out Andrew. Let me know if you have other questions. I'm happy to help.
I was actually wondering how you implement the delay effect on your shaker. When you’re going from one song to the next do you tap your tempo out for each song or do you just give each song it’s own kit on the SPD?
I’ve started implementing the SPD-SX on an acoustic gig I play frequently and I’m just wondering how I could implement those synchronized effects when I’m jumping from song to song on a 3 hour restaurant gig.
@@andrewtorresmusic Hey Andrew! If you pause the video when I'm talking about it (around the 9:16 mark ), there is a pop up that tells you how to assign it. I have each song programmed to a different kit with the tempo already set up on the kit.
If you were having to change tempo on the fly, the tap tempo feature is great:
th-cam.com/video/t0Hgc3R4Eak/w-d-xo.html
That video has more on that.
Tim Buell thanks so much Tim!
I found your channel and I subscribed immediately after listening to your opening video. So glad I found it.
Thanks enjoyed it. Please do more.
More to come!
Tim, such a great compilation of ideas here, exactly what I needed, thanks very much for making this vid!
Again - Awesome video! You really are an amazing inspiration!
Since you know showed us the possibilities of the SPD-SX in slower songs could you please show us how you would use it in a acustic cover band scenerio where you have to play songs like Valerie.
Thanks allot and greetings!
These are great! So helpful
Glad to hear it Sheri!
i love these things..i also have the octopad.i have the USB connected to my computer for midi and the audio goes into my pioneer DJS1000 along with my DJ set up the usb midi notes are taken into syphon and put into resolume to trigger video clips on my led video wall
What is the purpose of the red tape on the pad and what type of tape is it? By the way great video.
Thank you so much!
No problem!
Great videos and ideas Tim! Do you know if there is a way do 'tap tempo" with one of the pads instead of the button or dial? Thanks!
I believe there is - that is in the utility menu.
How does it respond to hand hits and shuffles. Have been playing handsonic's, spd 20, and an spd6 along with my acoustic percussion set up since 1999. Have a love/hate relationship with them. I've modified my playing to work around some of their weaknesses with hand techniques. Finger rolls, attack, hand shuffles? It sensitive enough to use with hands?...Thanks for sharing!
Not great in my experience. These lads weren’t really designed to be sensitive enough for that kind of playing.
I'm still trying to figure out how to get sounds from iwantthatsound. Old man here
Saving up to get either this or the Yamaha version of it. Great video man!
I've never used the Yamaha version so I can't speak to the quality. BUT. I love this Roland unit, it has seen a lot of gigs/road and is still kicking. Haven't had any problems with it yet.
For sure, Roland's been the name in the game since the beginning with the original SPD stuff. I'm looking at the Yamaha cause it supposedly has some trigger sensitivity that the other's don't have. But hey, maybe that and the new Alesis unit will push Roland to make something new, these and the Octapad's have been out for a while now.
@@nj7627 the yamaha is very different from this. It has a lot of options and is does a lot of things very well including being a much better electric drum set (the yamaha is actually an electric percussion instrument). The one thing it does not do? Have the sample memory to play artist specific samples and backing tracks (although the ios app helps with backing tracks). What are you looking to do with your pad?
MalikEmmanuel I’m looking to have something to use for some acoustic shows (though in my case it might actually be unplugged which will negate all this) and add a little bit to my real set possibly. I might also use it to track some electronic stuff in my daw, more as a midi controller for that though
@@nj7627 the Yamaha does that VERY well. The samples on the Yamaha can be played dynamically, their quality is waaaaayyyy better than the roland sounds, it's far more expandable, and the layer function works so much better (which could allow for things like ghost notes, making it an actual high quality electric kit). I am only making this difference for you because the ~$300 price difference. Those are all things that the Yamaha does better, as long as you are not looking to load your own samples onto the pad you may prefer it....but that doesn't mean that you will not be looking to do that in the future, keep that in mind.
Hi Tim, just about to pull trigger on a pad based device. Have you tried the Yamaha DTX M12?
Hey! I haven't. At the end of the day, most of these pads are similar. I've just stuck with Roland because I've had so few issues in the 20 years I've been using their stuff.
PLEASE WE NEED YOUR SAMPLES CAN YOU MAKE AVAILABLE TO US
Hey! Most of my samples are from different artists I've played with over the years (so I can't give those out). But the other samples I use I got from iwantthatsound.com - they make AWESOME samples and have a free pack you can download somewhere on their site.
Do you ever use it together with an acoustic kit to trigger electronic sounds (claps, snaps, 808s, movie line one-shots, etc.), and if so, in a loud band setting are there any issues with accidental triggers?
I do! I talk about that a lot in this video: th-cam.com/video/MCPSXvqkMpA/w-d-xo.html
@@TimBuell Thanks!
Great video. Question: How important/useful in this type of setting is it to use a separate kick drum foot trigger. Seems like it would free up a lot of playing options without over complicating things. Are you upgrading to the newly announced SPD-SX Pro?
Hey Glenn! Having a separate foot trigger definitely makes things easier (although I don’t use one). As for the new SPD-SX Pro - I just made a new video about my thoughts!
Amazing ! More vids like this :)
Do you ever play the Spdsx with a real bass drum with a trigger on it ? Or external pads ?
Hey Kevo! Thanks so much. I don't ever use a real bass drum trigger (although I guess I should try it! haha). But I have used external pads before for a few different set ups/occasions. It is rarely because I need extra sounds and typically because I want to set up a pad in a different area of the stage or something like that.
thank you
Great Channel! Thanks for all information.
Thanks for checking it out!
Hey
i downloaded from thats sound. but how do i get them into my spd-sx? I have put them on a USB stick. ?
please help ?
I have been thinking of getting an SX for myself as well for the purposes of an electronic mini-kit and also a sampler. Why not get the KT-10 or KD-7 so you could play the kick patterns with your foot instead?
I haven't looked into the KT-10 or KD-7 because I don't play a TON of stand-alone acoustic shows on the SPD so it isn't really worth the "investment". But it would be super nice to have that flexibility and if you are planning on using you 'mini-kit' set up I think it would be TOTALLY worth it. The other reason is simply that it adds quite a bit more gear to this simple set up.
Right now I have the pad, stand, and a pair of sticks. Adding an additional pad means having to lug it around, and also adds needing to bring a kick pedal. Not the end of the world by any means, but if I can get by carrying less gear and not have any quality loss - I'll pick less gear any day! haha.
@@TimBuell Good point on the bringing less gear part... I agree! The shows I play are mostly acoustic (or stripped down as you say in part 1 of your video) and the SPD has to function as a mini-kit.
The other drummers I know use an SPD-30 because of the ability to add HH control... which the SPD-SX doesn't have. I think there is a workaround however... using either a separate drum module to process the HH control or a standalone HH controller, if there is one in the market.
The boss footswitch fs1 works well for a kick pedal. It'll fit in your backpack also.
How to tune the sound up in logic and save it for the spd
Great question. This all really really depends on the sample. Some are "mastered" and ready to go. Meaning they have been boosted and maxed out so you won't need to do anything. Other samples might have to be "mastered" before you export. Meaning you'll want to add compression and maybe some limiting and an EQ that will compensate for how the sample will need to sound in whatever venues you'll be playing in.
Ok thx again
I'm looking to turn something like the Roland SPD-SX into a "full kit" with external kick + hihat pedals. Does the SPD-SX allow this expansion? I see you put a kick on one of the pads but wasn't sure if that could be triggered with the foot as well. Thanks in advance.
Kick will totally work with a kick trigger pad. Hi hat won’t (to my knowledge). No way to have a pedal control the open/close.
As a drummer I'm leaning toward a SPD-30. Do you ever incorporate that also?
Haven't actually checked one out. I'm an SPD-SX only guy (at this point).
Hi Tony, would you say that the SPD30 sounds more realistic? Like for example when playing a hi hat groove, does it sound less robot machine gun like? Thanks :)
Great info mate- did you look at the Yamaha dtx too? How did you land on the SPD-SX for practical use?
Glad you dig it!
I've been a Roland user since I was about 14. Roland is also the "industry standard" in Nashville - which makes subbing on gigs easy as you can load an entire backup of all the settings/sounds onto a Flash drive and transfer it to whoever is subbing for you (or whoever you are subbing for).
The spd-sx also has more physical outputs (I believe) than any other pad. Which gives you a lot more flexibility if you are using the pad for tracks and triggers, etc.
Hope that helps!
Why don’t you use a bas drum pedal with the SPD -SX?
More to carry. I have a TD-20 and could use the kick from that but most of the time when I'm using the SPD I'm looking for less gear.
I'm definitely going for that instead of Cajon (my back can't handle it anymore haha).
But, do you think it fits with an acoustic guitar in a duo gig?
Great tips here tho
Hey! Obviously, it is a matter of personal preference. So there is no 'right' answer. But...I FOR SURE think that it will fit in almost any setting. All comes down to what samples you use, and how you use them. And like any 'acoustic gig', you might have to really adopt the part and change it to fit the new set up. Cajon lends itself well to just kinda play what you would usually play on kit - but just with cajon. Using the SPD-SX might mean you have to get a little more specific about parts and make sure you find the right samples.
Hope that helps!
You are right. I'm working on it right now. I already have Thatsound samples to help me. Thank you so much for the tips and reply. Great job on the video cheers @@TimBuell
Mylestone great question! How did it Work out for you?
Hi my friend, I got your recommendation and got a 500 free sample, but it is not transferred to the spd sx. Do you know why?
th-cam.com/video/GjF6E3E9oac/w-d-xo.html that should help!
We have dynamics and dif. Volumes on alesis pad pro
cool thx
7:29 using delay on hi-hat as a timekeeper
What amp/speaker do you use?
JBL Eon. Can't remember what size. I've used it for YEARS. But that is mostly for home use. When I'm playing out there is almost always a sound system provided.
The sounds from "I want that sound" are NOT FREE!
No, not all of them. However - they offer a free sample file of 500+ sounds store.iwantthatsound.com/products/gratis
Friends don't let friends play cajon. :)
EXACTLY
I am with you I can't stand CAJONS ! They sound like exactly what they are. A hollow box ane it looks stupid too , just my opinion. In my opinion just playing a snare drum with brushes is better than a Cajon. Love these pads.
When played by a person who REALLY KNOWS how to play them, Cajons can be pretty awesome. But for me...it's a pass. haha
If it's an acoustic gig, I guess you better show up with something acoustic
Rich DeFazio hahaha that’s a good point. In Nashville most “acoustic gigs” are really just “low volume gigs” and there is pretty much always a sound system they put vocals and instruments like keys and acoustic through.
Thanks enjoyed it. Please do more.
Thanks so much!