The people who did the DIC dub of Sailor Moon made Zoisite into a woman so that Kunzite/Zoisite wouuldn't be gay. However, considering that Naoko Takeuchi once drew Sailor Mercury in Zoisite's arms (as well as the fact that in SM Crystal the Shitenno were in love with the senshi during the silver millenium), the implication in this case would be that Zoisite was a lesbian. In other words, either way Zoisite was homosexual.
I know that a lot of fans hate this version because Zoisite is a woman and it doesn't hold all the original lines form the manga but God Damn this was still emotional for me as a teen who had no knowledge of any of that. Despite Zoisite being a pretty devious villain this still got to me.
It was funny and abrupt. It coulda been longer like the others with the overdone, i love you, you love me hokeyness. But this was nice, different, short simple, to the point, don't forget me, she uses flower symbology in her power aesthetic, process of association = forgetmenots
I remember this scene blew my mind as a kid because back in the day, you didn't have sympathetic villains. A villain was a villain was a villain, with no reedeming qualities whatever, so seeing these types of scenes was very hard to understand for us as young kids. I remember literally not being able to wrap my mind around these clearly evil characters having this kind of gentle relationship. Oh and btw the SHITTY CHEESY AMERICAN DUB RUINS THIS SCENE.
I still think they did a good job for the show that it was at the time. Yes there were places where the readings were awkward, but I think the majority of the time the actors did a good job with delivering very poignant scenes.
@@goldcherries I'm sorry DiC had to cut out a lot of weird content, but they did a great job handling the show. The 90s were dense times because production companies were forced to keep things westernized for American audiences. I blame the strict policies because they were the reason why a lot of things got censored when first localized in English.
My favourite pairing from the series. I remember liking these two a lot as a child. Even though I know he is supposed to be a male according to the original script, I like to think of Zoycisite as a female character. The idea of a female villain who happens to be pretty, strong and being in love, appealed to me greatly. In Western animation, we barely/never see beautiful women as villains.
A power couple, maybe. But, I think Nephrilte and Molly's romance, (creep factor aside if we think in the real world how this would be seen by most people, nations, and laws) was the best and my favorite. Sailor Moon and Darien seemed too cliche for me (which also falls inline in creep factor if we think about what the real world view would be if this was live action or real).
The fact that she was practically Darien’s rival was also a really interesting dynamic. It was rare back in the day for a woman villain to be so cunning and dangerous, while also getting the same respect as male characters without it being some cliche plot point, her VA also was great. Obviously unfortunate they even went this route, but it was a different time back then.
Well, Zoisite is certainly the prettiest man I've ever seen. Need the hairstylist's number because that ponytail is fabu! (And yeah, finding out that "she" was a "he" still kinda weirds me out. Seriously. He's just too "pretty".)
lol even when i was watching the sub i was confused for a while about what gender he is. there have been many times, in my opinion, where zoey's voice sounded quite androgynious; like it can be either a man with a high voice or a woman with an unusually low voice, especially in the early episodes before he became the main villian, he sounded more like a cross between male and female. but seriously for several episodes i was trying to figure it out i was thinking: "it looks so much like a girl, but its voice is too low to be a girl... but it looks so much like a girl; it can't be a man! it's a woman with a low voice and flat chest... right?"
hannahlicious100 The Viz dub makes it pretty obvious by giving him a male voice that’s effeminate. He sounds gayer, but that’s much more fitting for his character.
+AmidalaEmma Yes! Thank you! Zoisite is suppose to be a man (if you pay attention in the English dubbing, sometimes, they mix up pronouns and refer to her as a him). Zoisite and Kunzite are in a gay relationship in the Japanese version just as Neptune and Uranus are in a healthy lesbian relationship! The Japanese version had it right and aired healthy gay relationships in an animated children's series in the 90s! When I was a kid, I loved it! I'm an american lesbian and even at 7, I knew Neptune and Uranus were not "cousins" LOL.
Random fact: the villain Zoisite from sailor Moon was actually a male..(blonde) In America they fucked up the entire story line and made him a female because they weren't big on LGBT Community being public lol. Shows how petty and childish America is. Sailor scouts were even nude in Japan, but America has such an issue with breasts too.. As if the female breasts are so shameful or bad lol.. That's why zoisite has no breasts
Why did they cut off the "I want to die beautifully" part? I see it as neither sexual nor violent. This is a heartbreaking scene that made me cry when I watched it in Japanese but now I'm laughing at the English voices D: Don't get me wrong, they're not bad, I'm just not used to them.
Does anyone know what the song is called that plays as Zoisite fades away? It struck me since I was a little girl when I cried during this part and made this part stand out in my mind and I'd been wondering about it for all these years. It's so beautiful. It always played during emotional parts.
I thought Zoisite was a female too until I watched the subbed version and found out that he was a male. I was shocked because I thought the long hair meant Zoisite was a girl but not all girls have long hair so.
This was one of my favorite anime shows I had a lot of favorites back in the day this shows even villains can have a heart I was surprised malikite didn’t team up with the sailor scouts to seek revenge on queen barel this show was awesome it had a lot of great scenes in it and it had funny moments too even guys loved this show because it had crime fighting hot chicks in it toonami was the best I miss those days
I agree. I think it's terrible that portraying two men in love is considered taboo and they changed it, but they ended up creating a great female character. So whether you're watching the dub or the sub Zoisite still rocks.
And Viz would later make a second English dub that was much truer to the original (namely keeping Zoisite a male, but still having a woman do his "bogus Sailor Moon" voice).
Zoisite: Hold me ( grunting in pain ). Don't be malachite. U told me not to seek revenge, but I didn't listen. Just promise, promise me one thing, malachite. Malachite: Anything. Zoisite: Don't forget me. Malachite: I would never. 😢 goodbye, my love.
I'm not discriminating against anybody, but I never ever in my life viewed or pictured Zoisite as a man. To me, "he" always came off as more of a female than anything. Forgive me if that's the perception I developed when I first saw this character at the age of like, eight.
Back then I was a teenage boy that loved toonami I would be fresh off the bus I would come home turn on my tv and watch toonami those were the days and this was one of my favorite shows this scene always got me
I was five when I first got into this anime. I never knew that Zoisite was in fact male because he acts so prissy.....so honestly making him female went unnoticed for me until just months ago when the redub began. I was confused when I heard Zoisite's voice since I was fully expecting a new female voice....but no. Kunzite and Zoisite became one of my favorite couples as I got older and so my support didn't waver when I learned Zoisite wasn't a girl. As a result they are the only yaoi couple I fully support :D
Johnny Fountains where was this “confirmed”? I don’t see it anywhere from a very specific google search. Circumstantial evidence at best. Please let me know where you found that information. I’m fine with Zoisite being a guy in reality, and Crystal is meant to follow the manga, so he is a he. Why change that now?
True, but then again, that's what happens when anime is dubbed and aimed at American kids. Stuff always gets changed or removed to avoid angering parents. And I agree with you. Thank goodness the Viz dub kept Zoisite a man (and is not edited for kids, but is uncut for anime fans who want to see the anime as it was intended).
Imma miss you, ZoYCiTe. I'm going to miss that cackling laugh of yours and your obsession with bladed weapons and crystals and cherry blossoms. Oh, GoDDaM----
"Good bye, my love." This ist the only thing I love in the english version of this scene, allthough I don't understand it. They cut out all the heartbreaking stuff before, but then there is THIS sentence, which the original version and other dubs are missing? Well, at least something for the KunZoi-Fans, I guess...
zoisite and kunzite were my favorite villains from the first season and I still remember how heartbroken I got when I saw this scene as a kid... oh man I was so pissed off at queen beryl! I wanted her to die so badly, but it was then awesome when sailor moon and her friends finally killed that bitch in the first season XD
I prefer original Zoisite. In manga he was more calculator and attentive to events than impetous and treacherous. In fact, he hadn't envied Nephrite, but all opposite.
Wow! That acting was terrible. Kunzite or Malachite as it is apparently is overacting. And Zoisite is a girl in this dub because Dic didn't want it's audience seeing homosexuality. Though to be fair in the manga and in Sailor Moon Cyrstal, Zoisite and Kunzite aren't gay and were lovers of the Sailor Guardians (Venus, Jupiter, Mars, Mercury) in a past life. But all and all. Screw this. I'll wait for when Viz media does the Sailor Moon Crystal dub.
Haohmaru Of Wind Except Zoisite isn't suppose to be a girl. He was a man. And in this anime he's gay, while in the manga and Sailor Moon Crystals he was in love with one of the Sailor Guardians.
Haohmaru Of Wind I've seen all the Sailor Moon Crystal episodes and he did nothing of the sort. In fact both Zoisite and Nephrite are dead along with the rest of the Dark Kings and serve Tuxedo mask as spirits.
The DiC dub was when Zoisite became a tomboy only because gays were considered porn for children's entertainet. In reality, we didn't understand gay culture back in the 90s. For us, it was hard to believe that Zoisite and Fish-Eye are men, but it was the truth. I've never believed that feminine boys were porn for children's shows we were just too young to understand those things. Everything that was in the Japanese version, it got censored only because we were too young to understand that kind of content. I've always believed that censorship was more than just protecting children from viloent/adult content and I've always believed that most of the content in the Japanese version wasn't offensive to children than they thought it was. We must have been brain-dead back then. Strict policies are bullspit because they have underestimated what Americans really wanted and was appropriate for American children. I'm glad I don't have to deal with that spit anymore.
Being someone who just happened to grow up in the 2000s and didn’t see this show at young, the voice for Zoisite in this is truely amazing ;-; we’ll not the blandness in context but the acting itself felt real. Since I’ve been watching the viz dub of sailor moon it’s so weird just now seeing it this way ;3;
I always thought Malachite should have turned on Beryl and helped the Sailor Scouts destroy her, only to become the big bad in the next seasons since he didn't help them because he cared about them at all, just because he HATEs her so much.
Don’t blame DiC for this, the original anime itself never explained that. It would probably be a disaster if they tried to dub Crystal though because of the Senshi x Shitennou thing
(I'm using my mom's account) Me, my mother, and I bet a lot of other people like Zoisite being a girl. PS in Spain Zoisite is a guy but Kunosite is his uncle!
This still made me upset as a kid even when they had to censor Zoisite into in a woman. I think it was at this point I went 'FUCK QUEEN BERYL' because Nephrite was bad enough, this was just too much. But as an aside, THE CANADIAN. IT DRIPS FROM THEIR VOICES.
In my opinion, changing Zoisite and Fisheye to women only made them tomboys. Lucky for you, I never said that Zoisite and Fisheye were girls. Between Zoisite and Fisheye, it was Fisheye that most people never viewed or pictured as a man. I can't blame you all getting mad to see Zoisite and Fisheye changed to women just because they were gay. Let's face it, gay erasure was the worst censorship we had to deal with when Sailor Moon was first localized in English. When Sailor Moon was first localized in English, I was disgusted that all gay men were changed to women, so that's why I use Gardevoir as a male in the Pokemon games. I'm glad the Viz Media dub exists as I was pissed off that all gays were forced to be changed into heterosexual characters. It's our xenophobia to blame for making all gay men as women in the DiC/CloverWay dubs of Sailor Moon.
smh, i read a article about how they wanted to cencor out the lgbt content which fucking pisses me off, they’re beautiful as man and man and i feel like zoisite shouldnt be a girl.
This is so much funnier when you come back to it off starting Crystal-having never seen the original Japanese of the anime or read the manga-and discovering for the first time that Zoicite is totally a dude in the original version. I love how gay this show actually is lmao
They don't wind up together because the manga plays itself as being tragic (Venus was in love with Kunzite, Nephrite would've been Jupiter's interest, and Jadeite would've been Mars' interest). The four generals were to prince Endymion what the four inner soldiers are to Sailor Moon so it only makes sense they'd line up that way. Instead of having hurt your view of Mercury, I hope I've instead simply enlightened you with some interesting info. Please don't be cross with me. :O
Besides that one artbook picture, they were never with the senshi. Even in the dream arc we get a lot of flashbacks and we don’t see the senshi with the shitennou
Don't forget me. Ah.
Sarah Day これ、日本語の元々のセリフだと、私を美しく死なせてなんだよな。しかも、ゾイサイトは実は日本のもともとのアニメの設定だと男性です。
Zoisite’s last words were indeed very touching
Yes They Were.
@@akariyuki7456 obi wan Kenobi cairnwick, Tiberius and roganda lsmaren are force sensitive Jedi still alive or died
@@aliciahigginbotham5811It’s heartbreaking that the only woman he ever loved died in his arms.
Now it's even harder to watch now that Zoisite's VA has passed away... :(
Jadeite/Kunzite/Yuichiro's French actor died too...
Eren Jaeger Hey, i'm still alive!
Rohan Zener unfortunately yes you are
And Kunzite’s dic VA is also dead😓
AnimexCartoonKIA I know but I’m pretty sure she was a good woman
The people who did the DIC dub of Sailor Moon made Zoisite into a woman so that Kunzite/Zoisite wouuldn't be gay. However, considering that Naoko Takeuchi once drew Sailor Mercury in Zoisite's arms (as well as the fact that in SM Crystal the Shitenno were in love with the senshi during the silver millenium), the implication in this case would be that Zoisite was a lesbian.
In other words, either way Zoisite was homosexual.
Either way she's gay? Thanks for the mindfuck.
yup
Gaby George Same thing in the italian dub
Gaby George who gives a fuck
What about just bi?
I know that a lot of fans hate this version because Zoisite is a woman and it doesn't hold all the original lines form the manga but God Damn this was still emotional for me as a teen who had no knowledge of any of that. Despite Zoisite being a pretty devious villain this still got to me.
R.I.P., Kirsten Bishop. :'(
+Luke Yannuzzi Seriously?
Too bad zoisite was a guy tho
Rip Denis akiyama 😓
@@briannabombshell1921 Zoisite is a girl now.
Oceanio/Naoko confirmed it.
@@johnnyfountainS who the fuck is Oceanio
Poor Malachite. The fact that he became determined to beat the scouts out of anger from losing his love makes it so easy to feel sad for him.
Kunzite*
Naoko says, Zoisite is female now,.
@@johnnyfountainS ? Whered did she say that
@@johnnyfountainS cap
dont forget me. ah.
i still cant get over how bland that is lol 0:28
okada That part cracked me up so much!
okada she doesn't even give a proper small speech. Boring!
It was funny and abrupt. It coulda been longer like the others with the overdone, i love you, you love me hokeyness. But this was nice, different, short simple, to the point, don't forget me, she uses flower symbology in her power aesthetic, process of association = forgetmenots
okada It’s hilariously terrible and abrupt!
you know she is a he this stupid dub changed that thank god for viz
"Don't forget me. Ah."
I haven't seen such a half hearted, bland, emotionless delivery since Justin Chatwin played Joku in Dragonball Evolution.
It's Goku you idiot!
***** No it wasn't, moron. That character acted so much unlike Goku he can't even be acknowledged as such.
Because being in blatant denial makes you less of a moron, you know.
Nada Namae When it comes to someone who doesn't act like Goku at all, why should I bother acknowledging him as such? TFS doesn't.
Weird. The entire Viz dub is half hearted and emotionless
These Two were the Best Cousins of the First Series!
Way before Haruka and Michiru lol
Or Allen and Ann from season 2's filler arc ( dryad family trees look more like tumbleweeds)
I remember this scene blew my mind as a kid because back in the day, you didn't have sympathetic villains. A villain was a villain was a villain, with no reedeming qualities whatever, so seeing these types of scenes was very hard to understand for us as young kids. I remember literally not being able to wrap my mind around these clearly evil characters having this kind of gentle relationship.
Oh and btw the SHITTY CHEESY AMERICAN DUB RUINS THIS SCENE.
PREACH
I still think they did a good job for the show that it was at the time. Yes there were places where the readings were awkward, but I think the majority of the time the actors did a good job with delivering very poignant scenes.
@@goldcherries I'm sorry DiC had to cut out a lot of weird content, but they did a great job handling the show. The 90s were dense times because production companies were forced to keep things westernized for American audiences. I blame the strict policies because they were the reason why a lot of things got censored when first localized in English.
Nah, I knew the anime was intended to be a drama romance comedy. Some heros and villains a like, had or wanted to be in a relationship
Shut up weeb
My favourite pairing from the series. I remember liking these two a lot as a child.
Even though I know he is supposed to be a male according to the original script, I like to think of Zoycisite as a female character. The idea of a female villain who happens to be pretty, strong and being in love, appealed to me greatly. In Western animation, we barely/never see beautiful women as villains.
Go to your search bar. Look for Queen Mesmira in Conan the adventurer.
Now that's a powerful Evil Queen and Beautiful Witch at the same time.
A power couple, maybe. But, I think Nephrilte and Molly's romance, (creep factor aside if we think in the real world how this would be seen by most people, nations, and laws) was the best and my favorite. Sailor Moon and Darien seemed too cliche for me (which also falls inline in creep factor if we think about what the real world view would be if this was live action or real).
The fact that she was practically Darien’s rival was also a really interesting dynamic. It was rare back in the day for a woman villain to be so cunning and dangerous, while also getting the same respect as male characters without it being some cliche plot point, her VA also was great. Obviously unfortunate they even went this route, but it was a different time back then.
Queen Nehelenia, Queen Berryl, Sailor Galaxia, spectrum sisters exist
Well, Zoisite is certainly the prettiest man I've ever seen. Need the hairstylist's number because that ponytail is fabu! (And yeah, finding out that "she" was a "he" still kinda weirds me out. Seriously. He's just too "pretty".)
lol even when i was watching the sub i was confused for a while about what gender he is. there have been many times, in my opinion, where zoey's voice sounded quite androgynious; like it can be either a man with a high voice or a woman with an unusually low voice, especially in the early episodes before he became the main villian, he sounded more like a cross between male and female.
but seriously for several episodes i was trying to figure it out i was thinking: "it looks so much like a girl, but its voice is too low to be a girl... but it looks so much like a girl; it can't be a man! it's a woman with a low voice and flat chest... right?"
I never thought of ponytails as having ANY sense on fashion. Then again, I'm bald...
I always thought zoisite was a guy in the English dub man what weird feeling I had found out the truth
hannahlicious100 The Viz dub makes it pretty obvious by giving him a male voice that’s effeminate. He sounds gayer, but that’s much more fitting for his character.
Same
apparently in the japanese version Zoisite is a man :)
+AmidalaEmma Yes! Thank you! Zoisite is suppose to be a man (if you pay attention in the English dubbing, sometimes, they mix up pronouns and refer to her as a him). Zoisite and Kunzite are in a gay relationship in the Japanese version just as Neptune and Uranus are in a healthy lesbian relationship! The Japanese version had it right and aired healthy gay relationships in an animated children's series in the 90s! When I was a kid, I loved it! I'm an american lesbian and even at 7, I knew Neptune and Uranus were not "cousins" LOL.
+AmidalaEmma Yet it is so prominent in their animation.
I know. Go figure
Random fact: the villain Zoisite from sailor Moon was actually a male..(blonde) In America they fucked up the entire story line and made him a female because they weren't big on LGBT Community being public lol. Shows how petty and childish America is. Sailor scouts were even nude in Japan, but America has such an issue with breasts too.. As if the female breasts are so shameful or bad lol.. That's why zoisite has no breasts
+Brianna Bombshell No he doesn't have breasts cause he's a guy. They didn't change the graphics only the VO.
Why did they cut off the "I want to die beautifully" part? I see it as neither sexual nor violent.
This is a heartbreaking scene that made me cry when I watched it in Japanese but now I'm laughing at the English voices D: Don't get me wrong, they're not bad, I'm just not used to them.
cuz in this Dub, Zoisite is Kunzyte's little brother... and y'know a romantic undertone between siblings could be bad for the show's reputation xD
Vella Vee fuck you that's why
because...IT'S AN AMERICAN DUB IN THE 90's
THE VIZ dub IS MORE LOYAL TO THE JAPANESE version....YUP THERE IS TWO DUBS
Prince mercury Yep. You’ve got the true dub that is the VIZ dub and the Dic dub that sucks Dic
Two words: Time constraints.
I always hated Zoisite for getting Nephrite killed
bige81892 I was mad I wanted to take a glass bottle and bust it over her fucking head
BullaTeairraThe Queen of Rap Briefs Totally! I would have used a hammer or a brick!
bige81892 I would've been like bitch what did Nephrite ever do to you he ain't done shit to you, yo dumbass had to fuck up his relationship with Molly
I feel the same way you feel
bige81892 I know that legit nobody will agree with me, but I actually liked zoisite.
Beryl after frying zoisite: Clean that sh*T up! lol
Beryl is scarier than my mom! 😱
IT'S A TRAP!!!!!
(literally)
love your zoisite refrance....for those who don't know in the Japanese and viz dub zoisite's a guy.......
Prince mercury Did they really make him a girl here just to avoid having a barely gay (as in they didn’t kiss or anything) couple being two villains?
Aaron Landry Homophobic DiC
Lol well it’s actually a Star Wars reference, but hey who’s counting
Sweden apparently made him a girl so gay people wouldn’t be villains.
R.I.P., Denis Akiyama. At least you're with Kirsten Bishop.
He also voiced Mr. Referee in Medabots.
Man this scene stuck with me, I watched this scene so many times and I cried everytime
Even though I didn't like Zoisite, this scene still made my sad as a kid.
I know. Zoisite turned my stomach, too, and I still feel horrible!
Does anyone know what the song is called that plays as Zoisite fades away? It struck me since I was a little girl when I cried during this part and made this part stand out in my mind and I'd been wondering about it for all these years. It's so beautiful. It always played during emotional parts.
Years late, but I got you--
It's part of the Bob Summers Unvaulted Lost Cues Collection, "Prologue (Silver Millennium)".
Justice has been served for Nephrite. Thank God!!
and then Zoisite found Neprite banging Sailor Pluto.
Zoisite got jeloos again. Oceanio/Naoko says, Zoisite is female now.
Ok the death scene is sad and all but the small "ah" cracked me up
In the spanish (from Spain) version Zoisite censorship was even better because he was a man but they said that the other guy was his uncle.
Lol, nothing like caressing and holding your nephews hand awkwardly.
LMAO
Omg they were cousins
I find it amazing that like he may have been evil but he was never abusive towards her.. like they're both villains but they made you care
He's suppose to have a male voice and also I don't even know how he cosplayed sailor moon with 99% accuracy xD
I want to die in a beautiful place = Don't forget me, uh...
Still, I prefer the female version of Zoisite :) It's how I enjoy seeing this character, simple as that.
Oceanio/Naoko says,
Zoisite is female now.
Yeah. Kristen did an excellent job. Much better than Macho Man Randy Savage.
@@johnnyfountainS Wait what? I wonder why they changed it.
Even though Zoisite was evil It’s still made me sad when he dies
So cheesy in english lol.. Still a memorable scene.
Why do I still remember watching this with my friend and he said "Rest in pieces Malachite's crazy wife." :P
DiC Sailor Moon is the best!! I miss DiC Entertainment!
Dic has Saint Seiya on netflix. It is classic Saint Seiya.
Dic is now Cookie Jar.
@@johnnyfountainS I know :(
The fact that both of the VAs are dead is even more sad.
Didn’t care for her death not after what she did to nephrite
now that i found out that Zoisite is a guy to begin with, my childhood is ruined xD
I f**cking knew it!
yeah back in 96 as i thought she a female villain. meanwhile I looked up a Zoisite's bio was a male. I was like wtf.
I thought Zoisite was a female too until I watched the subbed version and found out that he was a male. I was shocked because I thought the long hair meant Zoisite was a girl but not all girls have long hair so.
you homophobic?
No Im not I can't be homophobic if I'm gay too so 😏
As sad as this may be its still Karma for Zoisite considering the fact that she had Nephrite assassinated.
This was one of my favorite anime shows I had a lot of favorites back in the day this shows even villains can have a heart I was surprised malikite didn’t team up with the sailor scouts to seek revenge on queen barel this show was awesome it had a lot of great scenes in it and it had funny moments too even guys loved this show because it had crime fighting hot chicks in it toonami was the best I miss those days
I agree. I think it's terrible that portraying two men in love is considered taboo and they changed it, but they ended up creating a great female character. So whether you're watching the dub or the sub Zoisite still rocks.
Oceanio/Naoko says,
Zoisite is female now.
And Viz would later make a second English dub that was much truer to the original (namely keeping Zoisite a male, but still having a woman do his "bogus Sailor Moon" voice).
malachite:"Zoysite I'm so sorry! It's not fair! Queen beryl should have punished me for not keeping you be more patient! I'm so sorry I failed you!"😞
Zoisite: Hold me ( grunting in pain ). Don't be malachite. U told me not to seek revenge, but I didn't listen. Just promise, promise me one thing, malachite. Malachite: Anything. Zoisite: Don't forget me. Malachite: I would never. 😢 goodbye, my love.
evan though their evil, their love story is still way better than twilight
Yeah
Me knowing that they’re actually both dudes
I'm not discriminating against anybody, but I never ever in my life viewed or pictured Zoisite as a man. To me, "he" always came off as more of a female than anything. Forgive me if that's the perception I developed when I first saw this character at the age of like, eight.
Back then I was a teenage boy that loved toonami I would be fresh off the bus I would come home turn on my tv and watch toonami those were the days and this was one of my favorite shows this scene always got me
I cried when Zoisite died. Is that wrong?
ComplicatedPanda nope
No i did too
I was five when I first got into this anime. I never knew that Zoisite was in fact male because he acts so prissy.....so honestly making him female went unnoticed for me until just months ago when the redub began. I was confused when I heard Zoisite's voice since I was fully expecting a new female voice....but no. Kunzite and Zoisite became one of my favorite couples as I got older and so my support didn't waver when I learned Zoisite wasn't a girl. As a result they are the only yaoi couple I fully support :D
Oceanio/Naoko has confirmed that Zoisite is a girl now.
Johnny Fountains where was this “confirmed”? I don’t see it anywhere from a very specific google search. Circumstantial evidence at best. Please let me know where you found that information. I’m fine with Zoisite being a guy in reality, and Crystal is meant to follow the manga, so he is a he. Why change that now?
I am glad Zoisite is a man in the Viz Dub,I always thought it was messed up that he was a woman in the Dic Dub and Uranus and Neptune were cousins
True, but then again, that's what happens when anime is dubbed and aimed at American kids. Stuff always gets changed or removed to avoid angering parents.
And I agree with you. Thank goodness the Viz dub kept Zoisite a man (and is not edited for kids, but is uncut for anime fans who want to see the anime as it was intended).
Naoko says, Zoisite is a girl now.
Can anyone tell me the name of the background music when the petals start falling?
Zoisite: My Queen is Barren
I want the name of this background music -_- I've been searching for years
You ever find out the name of that music?
grant326rules no... I found 2 more scenes with the song but no goddamn name and Maria mother of god there is so much sailor moon music
I don’t know the name of this music but in the original version they played solveigs song
Still waiting for the name as well 😭😭😭
@@Clivetinker th-cam.com/video/e2CzPzzw6hk/w-d-xo.html found it
I never thought I’d say this but I feel so sorry for Zoisite when she died and disappeared
“He” not “she”
@@hereticalbug6361 correction: Zoistie is a she
@@hereticalbug6361 correction: Zoisite is a she btw my comment was going so well until your reply showed up
@@denisgauthier9191 in the original japanese version zoisite is a he
@@hereticalbug6361 but in this version she’s a she
How can anyone hate old school anime?
Dammit, I didn't look at the upload date, and I thought this was the amazing Viz dub version, not the crappy DiC version.
Even the Japanese sub would’ve been fine
Imma miss you, ZoYCiTe.
I'm going to miss that cackling laugh of yours and your obsession with bladed weapons and crystals and cherry blossoms.
Oh, GoDDaM----
what music is this when she passed away?
Yes mam. Oceanio/Naoko says, Zoisite is a girl now.
It's called silver Millennium. My friend.
"Good bye, my love."
This ist the only thing I love in the english version of this scene, allthough I don't understand it. They cut out all the heartbreaking stuff before, but then there is THIS sentence, which the original version and other dubs are missing? Well, at least something for the KunZoi-Fans, I guess...
setting this on loop and playing it at 3:am!
This type of stuff is why I love this show.
zoisite and kunzite were my favorite villains from the first season and I still remember how heartbroken I got when I saw this scene as a kid...
oh man I was so pissed off at queen beryl! I wanted her to die so badly, but it was then awesome when sailor moon and her friends finally killed that bitch in the first season XD
Anybody know what the track is called?
Zoisite was always meh favorite
Ikr
malicites cool too...
sry I spelled his name wrong
I prefer original Zoisite. In manga he was more calculator and attentive to events than impetous and treacherous. In fact, he hadn't envied Nephrite, but all opposite.
Same 💚🌺🔥
Wow! That acting was terrible. Kunzite or Malachite as it is apparently is overacting. And Zoisite is a girl in this dub because Dic didn't want it's audience seeing homosexuality. Though to be fair in the manga and in Sailor Moon Cyrstal, Zoisite and Kunzite aren't gay and were lovers of the Sailor Guardians (Venus, Jupiter, Mars, Mercury) in a past life. But all and all. Screw this. I'll wait for when Viz media does the Sailor Moon Crystal dub.
Haohmaru Of Wind Except Zoisite isn't suppose to be a girl. He was a man. And in this anime he's gay, while in the manga and Sailor Moon Crystals he was in love with one of the Sailor Guardians.
Haohmaru Of Wind I've seen all the Sailor Moon Crystal episodes and he did nothing of the sort. In fact both Zoisite and Nephrite are dead along with the rest of the Dark Kings and serve Tuxedo mask as spirits.
Haohmaru Of Wind No. They're spirits. I'm assuming this just you being a stupid troll in which case...
Naoko says, Zoisite is female now.
@@KingNazaru Nephrite is banging Sailor Pluto.
The DiC dub was when Zoisite became a tomboy only because gays were considered porn for children's entertainet. In reality, we didn't understand gay culture back in the 90s. For us, it was hard to believe that Zoisite and Fish-Eye are men, but it was the truth. I've never believed that feminine boys were porn for children's shows we were just too young to understand those things. Everything that was in the Japanese version, it got censored only because we were too young to understand that kind of content. I've always believed that censorship was more than just protecting children from viloent/adult content and I've always believed that most of the content in the Japanese version wasn't offensive to children than they thought it was. We must have been brain-dead back then. Strict policies are bullspit because they have underestimated what Americans really wanted and was appropriate for American children. I'm glad I don't have to deal with that spit anymore.
Being someone who just happened to grow up in the 2000s and didn’t see this show at young, the voice for Zoisite in this is truely amazing ;-; we’ll not the blandness in context but the acting itself felt real. Since I’ve been watching the viz dub of sailor moon it’s so weird just now seeing it this way ;3;
In the japanese version zoisite acually want's her last favor the last favor she want's is to die beautifully
He
@@JunKurosu She* Naoko says, Zoisite is female now.
Don't forget me...Ah~
I always thought Malachite should have turned on Beryl and helped the Sailor Scouts destroy her, only to become the big bad in the next seasons since he didn't help them because he cared about them at all, just because he HATEs her so much.
I'm sorry but this is one of the funniest scenes in the original dub lol
What I can't believe is the "happy" music that plays...
It's more of a sad romantic piece than anything
Relax dude! It a an epic Very romantic scene in the original or dubbed! They get to be straight and gay in both versions!
Naoko says,
Zoisite is female now.
DiC never showed how Beryl and her minions became evil in the first place crystal explained that.
Don’t blame DiC for this, the original anime itself never explained that. It would probably be a disaster if they tried to dub Crystal though because of the Senshi x Shitennou thing
Welp into the Freezer I go.
Zoisite just magically appeared in a different place. Even the music is unfitting, damn.
Just a cry me 😭
Goodbye my love. 🤯
My friend and I plan to re-enact this is English and Japanese (Me Malachite/Kunzite and her as Zoisite)
Kunzite*
Naoko says, Zoisite is female now.
Malachite: I'm...gonna....cry......wobwofwobwofwobwof XD
(sailor moon abridged)
Kunzite*
@@johnnyfountainS You're both right. In the original Japanese version and in the Viz dub, it's Kunzite. Here in this DIC dub, however, it's Malachite.
I love this music
(I'm using my mom's account) Me, my mother, and I bet a lot of other people like Zoisite being a girl. PS in Spain Zoisite is a guy but Kunosite is his uncle!
Wtf that’s even worse than Haruka and Michiru being cousins in Cloverway’s dub
Seniora.
Naoko says,
Zoisite is female now.
0:28, she died in his arms.😢😢
Anyone know the song's name when Zoisite died?
It always gives me the feels..
This still made me upset as a kid even when they had to censor Zoisite into in a woman. I think it was at this point I went 'FUCK QUEEN BERYL' because Nephrite was bad enough, this was just too much.
But as an aside, THE CANADIAN. IT DRIPS FROM THEIR VOICES.
In my opinion, changing Zoisite and Fisheye to women only made them tomboys. Lucky for you, I never said that Zoisite and Fisheye were girls. Between Zoisite and Fisheye, it was Fisheye that most people never viewed or pictured as a man. I can't blame you all getting mad to see Zoisite and Fisheye changed to women just because they were gay. Let's face it, gay erasure was the worst censorship we had to deal with when Sailor Moon was first localized in English. When Sailor Moon was first localized in English, I was disgusted that all gay men were changed to women, so that's why I use Gardevoir as a male in the Pokemon games. I'm glad the Viz Media dub exists as I was pissed off that all gays were forced to be changed into heterosexual characters. It's our xenophobia to blame for making all gay men as women in the DiC/CloverWay dubs of Sailor Moon.
So cheesy but man…
As a kid, this bothered me for a while…
Don’t forget… ham.
The queen and rini were my least favorite characters from the show 😡
smh, i read a article about how they wanted to cencor out the lgbt content which fucking pisses me off, they’re beautiful as man and man and i feel like zoisite shouldnt be a girl.
This actually made me cry even tho they are the villain ;(
This is so much funnier when you come back to it off starting Crystal-having never seen the original Japanese of the anime or read the manga-and discovering for the first time that Zoicite is totally a dude in the original version. I love how gay this show actually is lmao
In the new dub when Zosite dies it’s more hilarious-
They don't wind up together because the manga plays itself as being tragic (Venus was in love with Kunzite, Nephrite would've been Jupiter's interest, and Jadeite would've been Mars' interest). The four generals were to prince Endymion what the four inner soldiers are to Sailor Moon so it only makes sense they'd line up that way. Instead of having hurt your view of Mercury, I hope I've instead simply enlightened you with some interesting info. Please don't be cross with me. :O
Besides that one artbook picture, they were never with the senshi. Even in the dream arc we get a lot of flashbacks and we don’t see the senshi with the shitennou
У японцев ещё в девяностые годы умели так вуалировать однополую любовь.
In response to AnimexCartoonKIA, now it's even harder with Malachite's VA passing away not too long ago.
Kunzite*
Put hey played this song during nephrites death too. But his was kinda sadder ;_; especially with Molly crying
I don't like nephrite at all
“Neflite’s” was sadder in the DiC dub. But in the Japanese and Viz, nephrite and zoi tie for saddest deaths (imho)
@appleshorse seriously? you think that music is HAPPY? :| :| :|
I'm used to see Zoisite as a man so seeing another censorship that is barely talked about is weird to me.
Same
Have you seen the original scene? This here does not stand a single chance against it, this here is cheesefest.
This is kinda cringey, japaneesee way better, like litteraly shes says "dont forget me uh."
This was always get me 😥
I dont like the name Malachite. I PREFER KUNZITE.
Yes my actual boyfriend
Bish you is with YASSS time ya in the FrEeZeR¡